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Mar 24 04:15:23 <rwhitby> So, I have $50 to spend in the app catalog.  what should I buy?
Mar 24 04:15:30 <halfhalo_T400> bad kitty
Mar 24 04:15:33 <halfhalo_T400> newsroom
Mar 24 04:15:46 <halfhalo_T400> those are the two that I always use
Mar 24 04:17:01 <rwhitby> I already have: NFSU, Glyder2, X-Plane, Tweed, Paratrooper, Blocked,
Mar 24 04:17:57 <rwhitby> I want a twitter app which can automatically open to showing @webosinternals references, not just those people that @webosinternals follows.  Can bad kitty do that?
Mar 24 04:18:23 <halfhalo_T400> hold on
Mar 24 04:19:25 <halfhalo_T400> There a mentions option right next to the timeline option
Mar 24 04:19:30 <halfhalo_T400> I think thats waht you want
Mar 24 04:22:31 * halfhalo_T400 goes back to just cause 2
Mar 24 04:24:57 <LoneStar99> howdy folks
Mar 24 04:25:45 <LoneStar99> anyone know if an image with ".ico" extension is visible in webos?
Mar 24 04:25:57 <Roy-Pre101> rwhitby: Spaz does it, you know.
Mar 24 04:26:11 <funkatron> that app sucks, dude
Mar 24 04:26:20 <Roy-Pre101> funkatron: True.
Mar 24 04:26:59 <Roy-Pre101> Seriously, with a name like Spaz you'd expect it to come from some guy called Funkatron or something.
Mar 24 04:27:09 <funkatron> totally lame
Mar 24 04:27:22 <Roy-Pre101> funkatron: How's life?
Mar 24 04:27:30 <funkatron> oh, okay. trying not to lose it
Mar 24 04:27:34 <funkatron> so mostly good
Mar 24 04:28:10 <Roy-Pre101> That's good
Mar 24 04:28:25 <funkatron> how's tricks out your way?
Mar 24 04:35:10 <rwhitby> funkatron: If you made Spaz look like Preware, I'd be more likely to use it :-)  It's got too many colours and background pictures for my taste.
Mar 24 04:35:51 <funkatron> you know it's open source, and you could just change the CSS file to make it look however you want, right?
Mar 24 04:36:12 <rwhitby> yeah, if I knew anything about CSS I could :)
Mar 24 04:36:39 <rwhitby> funkatron: does it have any "theme" support at the moment?
Mar 24 04:36:41 <funkatron> feel free to file a ticket at spaz.lighthouseapp.com. I don't use Preware so that ref doesn't mean much to me.
Mar 24 04:36:56 <funkatron> no, but it's on the list and would be very easy to implement
Mar 24 04:37:22 <rwhitby> funkatron: by looking like preware, I mean just the palm light default theme, with no other colours or background images. plain jane.
Mar 24 04:37:37 <funkatron> there actually is a halfway implemented alternate theme sitting in there. Just need to set a pref, make a UI for that pref, and then have it swap the CSS file dynamically
Mar 24 04:38:15 <funkatron> right, I intended to make a theme like that. but, motivated individuals may make it happen before I do.
Mar 24 04:45:15 <edektor> does webos support get name() {} set name(val) {} notation for defining getters and setters?
Mar 24 04:46:55 <edektor> nvmd
Mar 24 04:48:36 <JenP> hi all!
Mar 24 04:56:56 <JenP> hi all!
Mar 24 05:05:52 <pandora--> hehe
Mar 24 05:06:14 <pandora--> anyone see the precentral.net app catalog goes to europe march 31st post?
Mar 24 05:06:39 <pandora--> my app is in the screenshot for 1.99 pounds
Mar 24 05:06:45 <pandora--> i have no idea if my app works in the UK
Mar 24 05:21:33 <JenP_wirc> ?
Mar 24 05:27:51 <JenP> hmmm...
Mar 24 05:28:02 <rwhitby> JenP: indeed.
Mar 24 05:28:11 <JenP> hi rod how are you
Mar 24 05:29:03 <rwhitby> good.  trying to work out the app catalog.
Mar 24 05:29:16 <rwhitby> I thought there were two app catalogs. one for US and one for EU.
Mar 24 05:29:23 <rwhitby> but I have three devices, and it seems they each see a different app catalog.
Mar 24 05:29:31 <JenP> really?
Mar 24 05:29:32 <rwhitby> the sprint device sees the US app catalog, one GSM device sees an app catalog with 382 apps and wetter.com featured, and the other GSM device sees an app catalog with 294 apps and free 3D games featured.
Mar 24 05:29:46 <rwhitby> sprint pre profile has country = US, and a CDMA phone
Mar 24 05:29:54 <JenP> what a trip
Mar 24 05:30:07 <rwhitby> main gsm pre profile has country = UK, and a GSM phone device id (the one with 382 apps and no free 3D games)
Mar 24 05:30:26 <rwhitby> other gsm pre profile has country = US, and a GSM phone device id (the one with free 3D games)
Mar 24 05:31:06 <JenP> I wonder how At&T will fit into all of this...will they use our app catalog or get their own?
Mar 24 05:31:44 <rwhitby> In other news, I can once again buy apps on the Sprint device, thanks to a www.simon.com giftaccount.
Mar 24 05:32:13 <rwhitby> So I have $40 to spend :-)
Mar 24 05:32:19 <JenP> that's cool
Mar 24 05:32:47 <rwhitby> I bought Glyder2 and ShrekKart for my daughter.
Mar 24 05:33:07 <rwhitby> and Dragon Game
Mar 24 05:33:10 <JenP> hey do you know if we're able to override the clock display that shows when phones on touchstone?
Mar 24 05:33:11 <JenP> lol
Mar 24 05:33:20 <JenP> how's the dragon game...i've been wondering
Mar 24 05:33:25 <JenP> personally i love wobble words
Mar 24 05:33:27 <rwhitby> JenP: haven't played it yet
Mar 24 05:36:43 <JenP> !!! rod! what are you just buying apps willie nillie ...LOL
Mar 24 05:37:30 <rwhitby> JenP: my daughter loves Glyder, so dragon is likely to be the same
Mar 24 05:37:46 <JenP> very cool
Mar 24 05:37:57 <JenP> well i've gotta get ready for tomorrow...I'll ttyt
Mar 24 06:33:57 <jlazaroff> hi everyone! :)
Mar 24 06:47:45 <jlazaroff> man, where'd everyone go -_____-
Mar 24 07:34:12 <swisstomcat> good morning
Mar 24 07:35:41 <jlazaroff> hi swisstomcat :D
Mar 24 07:35:47 <swisstomcat> hey
Mar 24 07:35:59 <swisstomcat> reporting live from the swiss open source expo in bern
Mar 24 07:36:17 <jlazaroff> whoa, really?
Mar 24 07:36:21 <swisstomcat> yeah
Mar 24 07:36:29 <jlazaroff> http://www.openexpo.ch/ ?
Mar 24 07:36:33 <swisstomcat> yup
Mar 24 07:36:38 <swisstomcat> at the webos-internals booth
Mar 24 07:42:08 <jlazaroff> so, anyone know how to add a custom class to a view menu?
Mar 24 08:17:38 <rwhitby> swisstomcat: hey, nice.
Mar 24 08:17:49 <rwhitby> swisstomcat: how's it going?
Mar 24 08:17:52 <swisstomcat> lots of people already
Mar 24 08:17:57 <swisstomcat> cramped tho
Mar 24 08:18:05 <swisstomcat> pic will come soon
Mar 24 08:18:13 <rwhitby> given all the books away yet? ;)
Mar 24 08:18:25 <swisstomcat> it just started 20mins ago :)
Mar 24 08:19:08 <swisstomcat> i'm doing live programming on saverstore
Mar 24 08:21:15 <rwhitby> ah, good example to get interest from people
Mar 24 08:21:55 <swisstomcat> www.twitter.com/twtomcat .. with a pic
Mar 24 08:41:08 <jlazaroff> okay, sleepytime
Mar 24 08:41:09 <jlazaroff> gnite people
Mar 24 09:01:33 <rwhitby> swisstomcat: well done on the poster rearrangement
Mar 24 09:01:55 <swisstomcat> thanks
Mar 24 09:02:06 <swisstomcat> the flyer has the same layout
Mar 24 09:02:23 <swisstomcat> where should i upload the expo pics?
Mar 24 09:03:06 <rwhitby> swisstomcat: good question
Mar 24 09:03:22 <rwhitby> we need gallery installed somewhere I think
Mar 24 09:03:33 <swisstomcat> i have gallery on my server
Mar 24 09:03:51 <swisstomcat> guess i could put them there
Mar 24 09:03:58 <rwhitby> ok
Mar 24 09:04:44 <swisstomcat> unless you have an official space
Mar 24 09:05:30 <rwhitby> nope, your server is good, and we can always add them to an official one later.
Mar 24 09:05:37 <rwhitby> the other alternative is just to upload them all to the wiki
Mar 24 09:27:33 <swisstomcat> allright
Mar 24 09:27:34 <swisstomcat> http://thinmachine.ch/gallery2/main.php
Mar 24 09:27:39 <swisstomcat> pics :)
Mar 24 11:09:47 <noaXess_netubu> hiihi
Mar 24 11:10:07 <swisstomcat> :)
Mar 24 13:02:56 <Roy-Pre101> swisstomcat: yo
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Mar 24 21:09:45 <Zemyla> Hmm.  I tried to run wIRC, and it said that wIRCd is not available.
Mar 24 21:10:58 <zsoc> Zemyla: i don't believe this is the correct channel for unofficial app support. You could try #wirc or #webos-internals
Mar 24 21:13:16 <Zemyla> Okay.  I'll try there.
Mar 24 21:16:15 <noaXess_netubu> hi all
Mar 24 21:16:28 <noaXess_netubu> just had a good da here at the openexpo in switzerland
Mar 24 21:17:35 <codeslaw_> nice
Mar 24 21:18:53 <noaXess_netubu> yes., some interesst
Mar 24 21:19:17 <kmudrick> great, my company's app has disappeared from the app catalog
Mar 24 21:19:55 <noaXess_netubu> disappeared?
Mar 24 21:20:09 <kmudrick> yes, no longer shows up in the app catalog
Mar 24 21:20:25 <kmudrick> direct link to install it no longer works
Mar 24 21:20:27 <noaXess_netubu> kmudrick: have you get any information?
Mar 24 21:20:40 <noaXess_netubu> from palm?
Mar 24 21:20:57 <kmudrick> i've emailed chuq..
Mar 24 21:21:37 <noaXess_netubu> kmudrick: think he can check it...
Mar 24 21:21:59 <noaXess_netubu> what kind of appis it ?
Mar 24 21:23:08 <kmudrick> noaXess_netubu: real estate search app, its been in the catalog for 2 months now
Mar 24 21:23:36 <kmudrick> chuq says the team is looking into it now, still, frustrating in the meantime - seems like stuff with the catalog is always breaking on me :(
Mar 24 21:24:06 <codeslaw_> which realeastate app?
Mar 24 21:24:21 <kmudrick> Real Estate by Smarter Agent
Mar 24 21:24:39 <codeslaw_> ya i'ved used that, pretty convenient
Mar 24 21:25:07 <codeslaw_> though it just made me depressed that all the houses in the area i rent now are too expensive for me
Mar 24 21:25:48 <JenP> hi all
Mar 24 21:26:21 <kmudrick> codeslaw_: did you ever have any issues or anything? sorry, cant change the real estate market but i can make the app better :)
Mar 24 21:26:37 <codeslaw_> haven't used it in a about a month
Mar 24 21:26:53 <codeslaw_> can't remember, let me take a look here
Mar 24 21:29:18 <codeslaw_> no overall it's good
Mar 24 21:30:07 <kmudrick> thanks
Mar 24 21:30:31 <codeslaw_> minor suggestion: i'm not fond of the inner-shadow on the command menu icons
Mar 24 21:30:49 <codeslaw_> the next/prev icons have a slight bevel/dropshadow
Mar 24 21:32:06 <kmudrick> you mean the arrows themselves?
Mar 24 21:33:29 <kmudrick> i just shove in whatever graphics i'm given, but i'll pass along the suggestion to the deciders of that stuff :)
Mar 24 21:51:53 <LoneStar99> good afternoon folks
Mar 24 21:52:10 <rolsworth> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzFnHpdtSGw&feature=player_embedded
Mar 24 21:55:07 <LoneStar99> nice, but how do you know it is on the pre?
Mar 24 22:12:41 <JenP> hi LoneStar99
Mar 24 22:15:41 <LoneStar99> hi JenP
Mar 24 22:15:57 <LoneStar99> reading about a sunken island
Mar 24 22:16:08 <JenP> we might be going to IL second week of April
Mar 24 22:16:38 <LoneStar99> Palm?
Mar 24 22:16:53 <JenP> nope some software training
Mar 24 22:17:26 <LoneStar99> nice
Mar 24 22:20:55 <halfhalo_T400> Soooooo....  Apparently my desktop is overheating again
Mar 24 22:20:56 <halfhalo_T400> fun
Mar 24 22:22:38 <LoneStar99> nice
Mar 24 22:22:52 <halfhalo_T400> yeah...
Mar 24 22:22:54 <halfhalo_T400> 101C
Mar 24 22:51:40 <haeffb> hello world
Mar 24 22:51:49 <haeffb> hello kmudrick
Mar 24 22:52:09 <kmudrick> hi
Mar 24 23:11:15 <JenP>  haeffb!!!
Mar 24 23:13:01 <haeffb> JenP!!!
Mar 24 23:13:11 <JenP> how are you
Mar 24 23:13:15 <haeffb> where you going to IL?
Mar 24 23:13:17 <haeffb> I'm good.
Mar 24 23:13:25 <JenP> schaumberg
Mar 24 23:13:37 <haeffb> a year older than couple of days ago...
Mar 24 23:13:55 <haeffb> is that Chicago?
Mar 24 23:14:01 <JenP> oh happy birthday!
Mar 24 23:14:08 <JenP> right by chicago
Mar 24 23:14:52 <haeffb> you'll probably fly right over my house. wave when you go by.
Mar 24 23:14:55 <haeffb> thanks.
Mar 24 23:15:07 <haeffb> so whats this about you being all "big time" now?
Mar 24 23:15:29 <JenP> lol i'm so NOT big time
Mar 24 23:15:34 <JenP> just got a promotion
Mar 24 23:15:38 <JenP> no biggie
Mar 24 23:16:24 <LoneStar99> been analyzing my sales, a 4.8 feedback has cost me about $100 bucks a week =(
Mar 24 23:17:47 <JenP> LoneStar99 how do you figure?
Mar 24 23:17:52 <haeffb> sweet
Mar 24 23:18:33 <LoneStar99> used to sell about 10+ apps a day - since my feedback went from 5 to 4.8 i have sold 5+ in a week
Mar 24 23:18:35 <haeffb> JenP sweet, not LoneStar99 sweet
Mar 24 23:18:44 <JenP> lol
Mar 24 23:18:48 <LoneStar99> lol
Mar 24 23:18:56 <LoneStar99> kinda sucks
Mar 24 23:19:14 <JenP> what are your average weekly sales?
Mar 24 23:19:16 <LoneStar99> the dude did not mean to screw things up, but has...
Mar 24 23:19:57 <LoneStar99> maybe $100+
Mar 24 23:20:43 * haeffb finds it hard to believe that someone would buy at 5.0 but not at 4.8.
Mar 24 23:21:52 <LoneStar99> haeffb: yeah, my app could be found on top of list of star rated, now hard to find, and "most popular" gone also
Mar 24 23:22:13 <haeffb> ah. ok, that could do it.
Mar 24 23:22:34 * haeffb never looks at those lists.
Mar 24 23:23:28 <LoneStar99> yeah, oh well, will roll out a new update next week
Mar 24 23:24:06 <haeffb> that list is bogus. Jewish Recipes?
Mar 24 23:24:15 <haeffb> The Merry Adventures of Robin Hood?
Mar 24 23:24:29 <JenP> yeah you can make the top of the lists with one review
Mar 24 23:24:37 <haeffb> your own review.
Mar 24 23:24:54 <haeffb> popular should be #DL's * rating.
Mar 24 23:24:55 <LoneStar99> with one review i have a 1 rated app
Mar 24 23:26:15 <LoneStar99> jewish recipes is a 5/5
Mar 24 23:27:05 <LoneStar99> need to bust out the bag of tricks and come out with "jewish recipes gone wild"
Mar 24 23:33:47 * haeffb needs to get off my butt and get another app in the catalog.
Mar 24 23:38:47 <LoneStar99> anyone already have their apps ready for the world?
Mar 24 23:43:37 <haeffb> I've got Agenda in German and Spanish. But not in the catalog, so....
Mar 24 23:43:47 <haeffb> oops. German and French.
Mar 24 23:44:05 <LoneStar99> cool
Mar 24 23:44:29 <haeffb> I don't know if Myles would even be relevant in Europe.
Mar 24 23:44:40 <LoneStar99> have an email ready for swisstomcat, just need to build a new update
Mar 24 23:46:35 <JenP> haeffb there are military personel in europe so i think it's relevant
Mar 24 23:46:42 <JenP> you'lljust have to switch to km
Mar 24 23:48:47 <LoneStar99> i think ireland might use miles
Mar 24 23:49:19 <haeffb> Kilomyles?
Mar 24 23:49:24 <LoneStar99> yeah
Mar 24 23:49:45 <haeffb> I actually don't have any units in the app. Enter km, if you'd like.
Mar 24 23:50:13 <JenP> oh that's cool never even occured to me
Mar 24 23:50:43 <LoneStar99> oh 2005 ireland changed to the metric system
Mar 24 23:50:51 <LoneStar99> it used to use miles
Mar 25 00:07:02 <Monroe> yay
Mar 25 00:07:20 <halfhalo_T400> ?
Mar 25 00:07:35 <Monroe> someone was using my nick
Mar 25 00:07:36 <Monroe> punk
Mar 25 00:08:03 <halfhalo_T400> lol
Mar 25 00:09:18 <haeffb> Monroe: did you find the answer to your question from yesterday...
Mar 25 00:09:27 <Monroe> which one?
Mar 25 00:09:33 <Monroe> focus on load for a textfield?
Mar 25 00:09:46 <haeffb> uh...
Mar 25 00:09:49 <haeffb> yeah...?
Mar 25 00:10:00 <Monroe> I never did
Mar 25 00:10:07 <Monroe> stupid textfield
Mar 25 00:11:43 <haeffb> 	this.controller.setInitialFocusedElement(null);
Mar 25 00:12:00 <LoneStar99> Monroe, you do not want the focus on the textfield?
Mar 25 00:12:03 * Monroe might kiss haeffb
Mar 25 00:12:12 <Monroe> right LoneStar
Mar 25 00:12:50 <Monroe> haeffb ... I can put that in the scene's setup() method?
Mar 25 00:13:14 <haeffb> yep
Mar 25 00:13:25 <haeffb> after all the widgets are setup
Mar 25 00:13:35 * haeffb watching replay of KU-UNI 
Mar 25 00:13:51 <Monroe> Well hot damn!
Mar 25 00:13:58 * Monroe DOES indeed kiss haeffb
Mar 25 00:14:12 <Monroe> haeffb, that was a GREAT game!
Mar 25 00:14:40 <Monroe> Now the only team that can beat Kentucky is Kentucky ... woot!
Mar 25 00:16:59 <haeffb> anybody have link to 1.4.0 pixi sprint doctor?
Mar 25 00:17:07 <halfhalo_T400> nein
Mar 25 00:17:15 <Monroe> no sir
Mar 25 00:18:52 <chandler> haeffb: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Webos_Doctor_Versions#Pixi
Mar 25 00:19:11 <LoneStar99> haeffb: http://uoid.me/doctor1
Mar 25 00:23:20 <haeffb> chandler: danke
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Mar 25 00:33:43 <haeffb> eh. welcome back, everyone.
Mar 25 00:34:03 <Monroe> whoa
Mar 25 00:34:05 <Monroe> indeed
Mar 25 00:43:19 <haeffb> process for doctoring? just run the .jar?
Mar 25 00:43:54 <Monroe> cover your nuts with your hand ... then run the .jar ...
Mar 25 00:43:57 <Monroe> :)
Mar 25 00:44:30 <Monroe> seriously though, I've never doctored, so I don't know
Mar 25 01:06:30 <JenP> hey i have a cookie question
Mar 25 01:06:38 <Monroe> k
Mar 25 01:07:05 <JenP> if i put an array with 5 values in a cookie, when I "get" that cookie does it still remain an array?
Mar 25 01:07:35 <Monroe> hmm
Mar 25 01:07:41 <Monroe> well
Mar 25 01:07:51 <haeffb> yes
Mar 25 01:08:28 <Monroe> yeah
Mar 25 01:08:28 <JenP> awesome
Mar 25 01:09:10 <Monroe> I use a cookie to store global app settings. I store a json object, and it gets read back in as a json object
Mar 25 01:09:34 <JenP> cool that will make what i'm doing so much easier
Mar 25 01:09:51 <Monroe> speaking of json
Mar 25 01:10:23 <Monroe> I can do this right?    this.jsonObj = this.myObject.toJSON();
Mar 25 01:14:46 <halfhalo_T400> possibly.....
Mar 25 01:15:18 <Monroe> hmm .. actually I don't need to do that
Mar 25 01:15:23 <Monroe> I have a different problem
Mar 25 01:15:47 <halfhalo_T400> yea you do
Mar 25 01:16:07 <Monroe> lol
Mar 25 01:21:10 <Monroe> uhhh
Mar 25 01:21:12 <Monroe> wtf
Mar 25 01:21:19 <Monroe> this has gone from suck ... to blow
Mar 25 01:21:56 <Monroe> What would you expect the following to show in DebugDiv?
Mar 25 01:21:58 <Monroe> this.profile.VibrateRingerOn = "vibrate";      $("debugDiv").innerHTML = "value: " + this.profile.VibrateRingerOn);
Mar 25 01:22:06 <Monroe> errr
Mar 25 01:22:10 <Monroe> this.profile.VibrateRingerOn = "vibrate";      $("debugDiv").innerHTML = "value: " + this.profile.VibrateRingerOn;
Mar 25 01:25:14 <Monroe> anyone care to guess?
Mar 25 01:31:59 <Monroe> bleh wrong
Mar 25 01:46:39 * haeffb beginning doctoring process on Pixi
Mar 25 01:47:22 <Monroe> hmm ... why can't I edit the values of a sql result set?
Mar 25 01:55:10 <haeffb> they are immutable.
Mar 25 01:55:24 <haeffb> I had that problem a month ago. Took a while to figure out.
Mar 25 01:55:39 <Monroe> yeah. I didn't realize javascript had immutable objects
Mar 25 01:56:42 <haeffb> it's not javascript, it's sqlite
Mar 25 01:56:46 <haeffb> 				if (inResultSet.rows) {
Mar 25 01:56:46 <haeffb> 					for (i = 0; i < inResultSet.rows.length; i++) {
Mar 25 01:56:46 <haeffb> 						// Use clone of object to avoid problems with immutability
Mar 25 01:56:46 <haeffb> 						results.push(Object.clone(inResultSet.rows.item(i)));
Mar 25 01:57:05 <haeffb> Object.clone is a Prototype method
Mar 25 01:57:15 <Monroe> yeah
Mar 25 01:57:24 <haeffb> 64% of doctoring
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Mar 25 02:05:09 <Bmyers> was more than a month ago haeffb
Mar 25 02:06:38 <haeffb> stop with the "you're getting old" jokes...
Mar 25 02:06:45 <Bmyers> it was..
Mar 25 02:08:32 <haeffb> yah, I know... :)
Mar 25 02:08:43 <haeffb> "
Mar 25 02:08:48 <haeffb> I'm getting old...
Mar 25 02:09:06 <haeffb> it was late Dec/ early Jan
Mar 25 02:09:19 <Bmyers> i'll stop if it's gonna make u piss ur depends...
Mar 25 02:09:25 <Bmyers> :)
Mar 25 02:10:33 <haeffb> lol
Mar 25 02:10:38 <Bmyers> now that i've annoyed u can u help with a css problem?
Mar 25 02:10:55 <Bmyers> have u tried the GR app?
Mar 25 02:11:02 <haeffb> installling 0.5.1 now.
Mar 25 02:11:46 <Bmyers> i should send the new new one..
Mar 25 02:12:28 <haeffb> too late.
Mar 25 02:12:44 <haeffb> whats the CSS problem? (I'm not much of a CSS guru...)
Mar 25 02:12:47 <Bmyers> get the spalsh screen?
Mar 25 02:12:59 <haeffb> yes.
Mar 25 02:13:03 <haeffb> your icon stinks.
Mar 25 02:13:10 <Bmyers> the app icon?
Mar 25 02:13:16 <haeffb> wait. what splash screen?
Mar 25 02:13:17 <haeffb> yes.
Mar 25 02:13:37 <Bmyers> i used one of those icon websites to make it
Mar 25 02:13:48 <Bmyers> spent about 3 minutes on it.. shows huh?
Mar 25 02:14:14 <Bmyers> r  u on emu or real pre for the app?
Mar 25 02:14:27 <haeffb> oh, no, I was talking about the "moon" icon.
Mar 25 02:14:32 <haeffb> real pre
Mar 25 02:14:44 <Bmyers> u have a moon icon for the app?
Mar 25 02:14:54 * haeffb didn't know there was an icon website.
Mar 25 02:14:57 <haeffb> yes.
Mar 25 02:15:08 <Bmyers> ok, for sure install the one i just sent
Mar 25 02:15:18 <haeffb> "this text verifies your application is running"
Mar 25 02:15:25 <haeffb> need to remove that from index.html
Mar 25 02:15:49 <Bmyers> yeah since 1.4 ppl see that stuff now..
Mar 25 02:16:09 <Bmyers> remove that version and install the new one
Mar 25 02:16:36 <Bmyers> then go landscape and you'll see the css problem
Mar 25 02:17:15 <haeffb> whoa. ads.
Mar 25 02:17:18 <Bmyers> now, the easiest way to fix it would be to ignore orientation change
Mar 25 02:17:22 <haeffb> splash screen is awesome
Mar 25 02:17:30 <Bmyers> thats me on the ladder
Mar 25 02:17:47 <haeffb> the yellow borders, though, make it seem like there should be more above & below.
Mar 25 02:18:11 <Bmyers> because they dont go all the way around u mean?
Mar 25 02:18:27 <haeffb> yeah
Mar 25 02:18:33 <haeffb> who's that at the urinal?
Mar 25 02:18:41 <Bmyers> thats NOT me
Mar 25 02:18:46 <Bmyers> thats -G
Mar 25 02:19:01 <halfhalo_T400> I now own a party blimp in just cause 2
Mar 25 02:19:16 <haeffb> so, in landscape, your list doesn't expand to screen width?
Mar 25 02:19:20 <halfhalo_T400> Let me spell that out
Mar 25 02:19:22 <halfhalo_T400> PART
Mar 25 02:19:23 <halfhalo_T400> Y
Mar 25 02:19:25 <halfhalo_T400> BLIM
Mar 25 02:19:26 <halfhalo_T400> P
Mar 25 02:19:42 <Bmyers> i'm not in to fat chics..
Mar 25 02:19:53 <Bmyers> anyway.. the list doesnt get shorter
Mar 25 02:20:13 <Bmyers> so for the pixi it doesnt shrink right
Mar 25 02:20:20 <Bmyers> or if alerts come up
Mar 25 02:20:25 <Bmyers> the list doesnt shrink
Mar 25 02:20:52 <Bmyers> but landscape is the easiest way to see the error
Mar 25 02:21:08 <Bmyers> the list is height: 70%
Mar 25 02:21:14 <Bmyers> the body tag has 100%
Mar 25 02:21:40 <Bmyers> the div that contains the list is a %
Mar 25 02:21:54 <JenP> let me try that again
Mar 25 02:21:57 <JenP>  if i have two cookie Array objects 1 oldObjCookie with array & 1 newObjCookie with array....how do i get the values from each one? oldObjCookie.array[0] & newObjCookie.array[0]...?
Mar 25 02:23:26 <Bmyers> you want to fill newObjCookie with what in the old one?
Mar 25 02:23:47 <JenP> no new cookie will have a new value
Mar 25 02:25:19 <Bmyers> so u want to fill oldObjCookie.array with what is in newObjCookie.array ?
Mar 25 02:25:30 <JenP> no
Mar 25 02:25:36 <JenP> one sec i'll pastebin
Mar 25 02:25:40 <Bmyers> u want cookies and milk?
Mar 25 02:26:22 <Bmyers> haeffb: aside from the list css thing. what do you think of the app?
Mar 25 02:31:57 <BigBiff_> check
Mar 25 02:31:59 <BigBiff_> cool
Mar 25 02:32:13 <BigBiff_> Bmyers - i'm back with some begging for dynamic listselector help - got a pastie link for you if you've got a sec
Mar 25 02:33:25 <BigBiff_> (im logged in twice?) erm
Mar 25 02:37:17 <BigBiff_> anyway:   http://pastie.org/885915  i can't get the model to change
Mar 25 02:39:42 <Tibfib> BigBiff_: the model is never refrenced by the listener
Mar 25 02:39:50 <Bmyers> this.selectorsModelr.choices == this.riverstn ?
Mar 25 02:40:08 <Bmyers> maybe this.selectorsModelr.choices = this.riverstn ?
Mar 25 02:40:11 <Tibfib> see the listSelector-assistant in the UIwidgets sample
Mar 25 02:42:34 <BigBiff_> ya - the sample doesnt do anything with dynamic lists
Mar 25 02:43:39 <Tibfib> yes. but it references the model correctly, which you aren't doing... :O
Mar 25 02:44:25 <Bmyers> BigBiff_ r u trying to set the new choices list using '==' in lines 24,29 and 34?
Mar 25 02:44:39 <BigBiff_> doh yes
Mar 25 02:45:01 <Bmyers> that's bad mojo..
Mar 25 02:45:33 <Tibfib> woops. If that works, I'll feel like a tool. My bad.
Mar 25 02:46:48 <Tibfib> Soooo... has anyone worked with the contacts API?
Mar 25 02:47:18 <Bmyers> minimal
Mar 25 02:47:24 <Bmyers> but yet.. ppl picker
Mar 25 02:48:06 <Tibfib> Hmmm... I think I'll be trying to create a new account and such
Mar 25 02:49:26 <haeffb> Bmyers: looks good. Not sure how to fix the CSS though.
Mar 25 02:51:41 <Bmyers> thanks haeffb. gonna ship it to homebrew first..
Mar 25 02:52:54 <BigBiff_> Tibfib:  my issue isnt with the model, but with the conditionals built around the controller.modelChanged
Mar 25 02:53:02 <BigBiff_> im obviously not using that right
Mar 25 02:54:23 <haeffb> BigBiff: this.selectorsModelr = {currentRiver: "Pick a state first"};
Mar 25 02:55:00 <haeffb> go ahead and put a choices array there, with one choice {label: "Pick a state first", value: "none"}
Mar 25 02:55:32 <haeffb> then change that model choices depending on the first selector.
Mar 25 02:55:50 <haeffb> and, you should only need to listen to propertyChange on the first selector.
Mar 25 02:56:57 <haeffb> and some other stuff....
Mar 25 02:58:00 <EvanDotPro> two quick questions, and i'm mainly asking because i'm expecting a call from someone any minute who is about to ask me so i don't have time to research / test: a) is there any (public, not palm-namespace-only) way in the mojo sdk to post binary data (photo/video/etc) from the pre's storage to a server?  and B) in the pre's browser do file input fields function at all?
Mar 25 02:58:08 <BigBiff_> so controller.modelChanged - unnecessary
Mar 25 02:58:42 <EvanDotPro> (and i don't use twitter or facebook so i haven't played with any of those apps that might be doing it if it is possible)
Mar 25 02:59:00 <haeffb> no, the modelChanged is necessary.
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