**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Apr 11 02:59:56 2010
Apr 11 03:20:55 <BigBiff> hello all
Apr 11 03:21:40 <LoneStar99> howdy BigBiff
Apr 11 03:22:25 <BigBiff> i need a gps guru
Apr 11 03:22:35 <BigBiff> kind of a physics problem
Apr 11 03:22:40 <BigBiff> well.. matgh
Apr 11 03:22:42 <BigBiff> math
Apr 11 03:22:51 <bpadalino> sounds tough
Apr 11 03:23:10 <LoneStar99> only math i know is 2+2
Apr 11 03:23:10 <BigBiff> i've googled it  - looks drab
Apr 11 03:23:19 <BigBiff> or my fav
Apr 11 03:23:26 <BigBiff> i=!i
Apr 11 03:23:36 <BigBiff> makes PERFECT sense
Apr 11 03:23:38 <BigBiff> hehe
Apr 11 03:24:11 <bpadalino> what was the math question ?
Apr 11 03:24:14 <BigBiff> o
Apr 11 03:24:25 <BigBiff> ive got a BUNCH of lat/long coords
Apr 11 03:24:44 <BigBiff> i need to see which ones are within x miles of my gps
Apr 11 03:25:15 <BigBiff> i think there's a sin/cos in there somewhere
Apr 11 03:25:28 <BigBiff> toughy
Apr 11 03:25:44 <bpadalino> yeah, if you want to get a radius going on ..
Apr 11 03:25:55 <bpadalino> if you just want a square, and estimate it ..
Apr 11 03:26:00 <bpadalino> might not be a bad idea
Apr 11 03:26:03 <BigBiff> hmm
Apr 11 03:26:35 <BigBiff> ya, actually i'll just cycle through them
Apr 11 03:27:05 <BigBiff> instead of creating a complex mathematical formula
Apr 11 03:27:11 <BigBiff> that creates a radius
Apr 11 03:27:34 <BigBiff> now to google that formula
Apr 11 03:28:41 <BigBiff> and voila - there it is in good old js - the haversine formula
Apr 11 03:29:10 <BigBiff> in case ur curious - http://www.movable-type.co.uk/scripts/latlong.html
Apr 11 03:30:19 <BigBiff> ugg - how processor intensive will that be, to cycle that formula through a few entry lat/long entries?
Apr 11 03:30:26 <bpadalino> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great-circle_distance
Apr 11 03:32:51 <bpadalino> if you keep your coordinates in polar format, you can just use a complex multiply to update your vector based on the delta you have
Apr 11 03:33:38 <bpadalino> so keep a magnitude and angle (bearing) .. and you should be able to just iterate one time through, and keep values which have a magnitude less than N miles
Apr 11 03:34:04 <bpadalino> an update rate of 1Hz shouldn't be too bad
Apr 11 03:34:16 <bpadalino> even 1/4Hz wouldn't be terrible
Apr 11 03:35:14 <bpadalino> make sense ?
Apr 11 03:37:18 <BigBiff> yes - actually i was doing ok till the wiki page
Apr 11 03:37:45 <BigBiff> the hieroglyphics hurt me
Apr 11 03:38:55 <bpadalino> i am sorry
Apr 11 03:39:28 <BigBiff> heh, actually i'm doing ok now- i worked through the symbols that i had forgotten (since 1991)
Apr 11 03:39:43 <BigBiff> been awhile since trig
Apr 11 03:40:20 <BigBiff> woohoo, time to code it!
Apr 11 03:40:20 <bpadalino> circles are fun
Apr 11 03:40:25 <bpadalino> good luck
Apr 11 03:40:36 <BigBiff> angles on a sphere
Apr 11 03:40:41 <BigBiff> funner
Apr 11 03:41:31 <BigBiff> i still wanna see somebody make the space vehicle flyover app
Apr 11 03:41:46 <BigBiff> some trig involved in that one
Apr 11 03:42:03 <BigBiff> i'd pay 3.99 for that one
Apr 11 03:42:13 <BigBiff> (but im a nerd)
Apr 11 03:54:01 <dawm> crap
Apr 11 03:54:10 <dawm> i knew i shouldnt have tweeted..
Apr 11 04:17:18 <dawm> what a mess
Apr 11 04:18:24 <dawm> palm retweeted my tweet about my beta, i wasnt paying attention and told ppl to DM me forgetting that you cant DM if both parties arent following each other.. got a bunch of @'s then a bug comes in about the app freezing after coming back to the main scene.. ugh!
Apr 11 04:24:29 <Roy-Pre101> Has anyone documented something on webos101.com today?
Apr 11 04:25:59 <Roy-Pre101> hello Rod
Apr 11 04:29:46 <BigBiff> heres a hypothetical
Apr 11 04:30:06 <BigBiff> you have a list with spinners in the rows, respectively
Apr 11 04:30:21 <BigBiff> the list is tucked in a drawer - spinners are "activated"
Apr 11 04:30:45 <BigBiff> is the machine processing them as being active, or does the drawer preclude that
Apr 11 04:32:09 <BigBiff> i guess the question is - is the drawer just a visual "mask"
Apr 11 04:33:22 <Roy-Pre101> BigBiff: I'd say 'yes'
Apr 11 04:33:50 <BigBiff> ya me 2 -
Apr 11 04:34:28 <BigBiff> i was hoping..... yet another if drawer is blabla, then dont activate blabla i guess
Apr 11 04:37:35 <Roy-Pre101> That's a bit much to hope for.
Apr 11 05:49:24 <gingermanbread> Hey, anyone willing to help out a dev n00b with a quick problem?
Apr 11 05:50:03 <LoneStar99> what is the quick problem?
Apr 11 05:50:58 <gingermanbread> Well... Since 1.4, I've been having trouble with dev mode. Namely, it won't initiate- when I slide the devmode bar to 'on' and reset my device, it tells me to reset again
Apr 11 05:51:15 <gingermanbread> And novacom doesn't initiate or anything. I've already doctored my Pre three times now trying to fix it, no luck
Apr 11 05:51:54 <gingermanbread> I'm wondering if this is a known issue and if there's a solution for it, because I've managed to find... nothing on it.
Apr 11 05:55:28 <LoneStar99> gingermanbread:  not really sure...
Apr 11 06:02:05 <gingermanbread> Well... Jeez. I'm not sure how to solve this at the moment short of 'misplacing' or breaking my Pre and getting a new one from Sprint
Apr 11 06:05:51 <LoneStar99> not sure what it all means
Apr 11 08:43:13 <swisstomcat> morning
Apr 11 12:00:34 <haeffb> morning swisstomcat
Apr 11 12:00:46 <swisstomcat> morning haeffb
Apr 11 12:01:14 <haeffb> I'm going to run out and grab some coffee. Need anything?
Apr 11 12:06:06 <Bmyers> bagels
Apr 11 12:08:50 <swisstomcat> already had lunch, thanks :)
Apr 11 12:30:42 <haeffb> bagels? dude, this is rural Missouri, not New York City. bagels. ha.
Apr 11 12:38:24 <warpdesign_> hi there
Apr 11 12:38:42 <warpdesign_> anyone know a way to be notified of phone/sms calls in a fullscreen app ?
Apr 11 12:38:51 <Bmyers> grits?
Apr 11 12:43:36 <swisstomcat> hi warpdesign
Apr 11 12:51:07 <haeffb> too far north
Apr 11 12:51:38 <haeffb> sausage gravy & biscuits. Eggs. Bacon. Hashbrowns.
Apr 11 12:52:11 <swisstomcat> yummy
Apr 11 12:54:07 * haeffb trying to figure out how to handle a change in account settings.
Apr 11 12:54:31 <haeffb> I user changes from one Toodledo account to another, I should probably delete all his info, right?
Apr 11 12:55:08 <Bmyers> what are u storing locally?
Apr 11 12:55:13 <haeffb> everything
Apr 11 12:55:16 <swisstomcat> ask the user?
Apr 11 12:55:58 <haeffb> he doesn't know anything.
Apr 11 12:56:46 <swisstomcat> "send account data to developer before deleting the account? yes/sure/no problem"
Apr 11 12:57:14 <haeffb> I like the way you think...
Apr 11 12:58:04 <haeffb> problem: I store the Toodledo unique "id" and my own unique "value" for each task.
Apr 11 12:58:19 <haeffb> if the task was added locally, "id" = ""
Apr 11 12:58:26 <haeffb> value = unix timestamp
Apr 11 12:58:57 <haeffb> when synced, I get an id from Toodledo, and then set value == id.
Apr 11 12:59:22 <swisstomcat> also an userid?
Apr 11 12:59:25 <haeffb> so, synced tasks have value == id and non-synced tasks have value =xxx and id="".
Apr 11 12:59:31 <Bmyers> warpdesign: i dont know of a way but would like to know also if its do-able
Apr 11 13:00:10 <haeffb> so I'm testing for id="" to see if task should be sent to Toodledo.
Apr 11 13:00:12 <swisstomcat> don't notifications show up in fullscreen (well, pdk) hames?
Apr 11 13:00:14 <swisstomcat> games
Apr 11 13:00:33 <swisstomcat> i guess you need to correspond every task with a user
Apr 11 13:01:01 <haeffb> hmmm
Apr 11 13:01:06 <swisstomcat> that way you can ask if locally stored data should be deleted
Apr 11 13:01:09 <swisstomcat> or kept
Apr 11 13:02:38 <haeffb> the bigger problem is that I don't allow local creating/editing of folders, contexts, & goals yet.
Apr 11 13:03:15 <swisstomcat> how is that related?
Apr 11 13:03:16 <haeffb> each task has a folder id, but not a folder label, so if the user changes accounts, all those folder id's become invalid.
Apr 11 13:03:46 <swisstomcat> would a user migrate task from one account to another?
Apr 11 13:04:02 <haeffb> I wouldn't know why....
Apr 11 13:04:11 <haeffb> ...but someone probably wants to.
Apr 11 13:04:24 <haeffb> but Toodledo allows import/export in a variety of ways.
Apr 11 13:04:27 <swisstomcat> those pesky users
Apr 11 13:04:48 <swisstomcat> delete the old data then
Apr 11 13:04:48 <haeffb> so, the easiest solution is to say "if you change accounts, all local info will be deleted."
Apr 11 13:04:51 <swisstomcat> yes
Apr 11 13:05:08 <haeffb> I think that's what I'll do.
Apr 11 13:05:44 <haeffb> Bmyers: did you ever get it to work?
Apr 11 13:06:03 <Bmyers> your app?
Apr 11 13:06:36 <haeffb> yep
Apr 11 13:06:42 <Bmyers> nope
Apr 11 13:06:47 <haeffb> I suck.
Apr 11 13:08:06 <haeffb> you'd enter a task and it wouldn't save, right?
Apr 11 13:09:04 <Bmyers> right
Apr 11 13:10:29 <haeffb> did you get a database created?
Apr 11 13:12:59 <haeffb> Ok, deleting tasks.
Apr 11 13:13:16 <haeffb> I need to save the id's of deleted tasks so that I can sync with Toodledo.
Apr 11 13:13:21 <haeffb> new database table?
Apr 11 13:13:24 <haeffb> cookie?
Apr 11 13:13:45 <haeffb> have the user write them down, and then type them in during sync?
Apr 11 13:13:57 <haeffb> field in existing table?
Apr 11 13:17:22 <haeffb> Bmyers: yes you had a database created.
Apr 11 13:17:30 <haeffb> it just didn't save the tasks.
Apr 11 13:20:43 <Bmyers> if u say so
Apr 11 13:23:08 <haeffb> let me know if/when you have some time to troubleshoot...
Apr 11 13:24:00 <Bmyers> tonight would be better. working on the sailboat today to get ready to splash for the summer
Apr 11 13:24:37 <haeffb> sometime.
Apr 11 13:24:45 <haeffb> I should be around tonight.
Apr 11 13:24:54 <Bmyers> ok
Apr 11 13:25:01 <haeffb> I need to get our boat out of the shop today too.
Apr 11 13:26:00 <Bmyers> bowrider?
Apr 11 13:29:06 <haeffb> bass boat.
Apr 11 13:29:51 <Bmyers> 150-175 HP outboard? gotta catch them bass FAST...
Apr 11 13:31:46 <haeffb> nah, just a little 125 HP
Apr 11 13:31:52 <haeffb> for a 17' boat.
Apr 11 13:33:00 <haeffb> our typical day at the lake involves launching the watercraft. motoring about 400 yards to the nearest bridge & tying it up so half the boat is in the shade of the bridge & the ohter half is in the sun.
Apr 11 13:33:13 <haeffb> Sit there for 5 to 10 hours.
Apr 11 13:33:27 <haeffb> motor back to the ramp, load up & go home.
Apr 11 13:33:52 <haeffb> I just bought a DC charger for my laptop, so I can get some work done there now...
Apr 11 13:37:22 <Bmyers> sounds like fun..
Apr 11 14:01:00 <benluo> hi
Apr 11 14:01:32 <swisstomcat> hi benluo
Apr 11 14:02:06 <benluo> how to "grid" list. like Palm Pre photo app
Apr 11 14:02:51 <benluo> use table in list?
Apr 11 14:02:57 <benluo> not very sure
Apr 11 14:03:11 <benluo> two rd in one item?
Apr 11 14:03:56 <swisstomcat> you can look at the photo app's source code .. it comes with the SDK
Apr 11 14:06:07 <benluo> really?
Apr 11 14:06:12 <benluo> thanks
Apr 11 14:06:13 <benluo> let me check
Apr 11 14:09:19 <Roy-Pre101> ping
Apr 11 14:10:01 <swisstomcat> syn-ack
Apr 11 14:11:31 <Bmyers> nack
Apr 11 14:11:56 <VincentLaw> syn flood
Apr 11 14:12:26 <benluo> i found gridlist template
Apr 11 14:12:36 <benluo> thanks. i will study them
Apr 11 14:12:46 <haeffb> great! I lost it about a week ago.
Apr 11 15:18:17 <Roy-Pre101> That gridlist might be something nice to have on http://webos101.com
Apr 11 15:18:21 <Roy-Pre101> Just sayin'...
Apr 11 15:19:50 <swisstomcat> :)
Apr 11 15:22:01 <Roy-Pre101> Which reminds me.  I figured out how to skin buttons.
Apr 11 15:22:08 <Roy-Pre101> So I need to add that to webos101
Apr 11 15:22:37 <Roy-Pre101> I saw an article about it once I think... but I can't find it now
Apr 11 15:23:09 <swisstomcat> i saw something today
Apr 11 15:23:14 <swisstomcat> twittered
Apr 11 15:23:57 <swisstomcat> http://blog.anomalyinnovations.com/2010/03/creating-a-realistic-looking-button-with-css3/
Apr 11 15:27:30 <Roy-Pre101> That's pretty nice.  I was trying to use an image as the button but that's pretty cool, maybe I can use the gradients on top of the button.
Apr 11 15:28:31 <swisstomcat> haha, my "unsorted bookmarks list" is already at 490 items
Apr 11 15:39:32 <benluo> Roy-Pre101: i can not find gridlist in webos101
Apr 11 15:39:36 <benluo> any suggestion?
Apr 11 15:39:40 <benluo> or link?
Apr 11 15:40:32 <swisstomcat> he said someone should create that page on webos101
Apr 11 15:41:40 <benluo> oho
Apr 11 15:41:51 <benluo> :P
Apr 11 15:41:51 <benluo> mis-understood
Apr 11 16:11:35 <Roy-Pre101> :)
Apr 11 16:23:49 <BigBiff> hello all - nice day
Apr 11 16:27:17 <BigBiff> anyone dealt with dynamically styling rows in a list?
Apr 11 16:28:18 <BigBiff> just not sure which row div to put styling info - ive tried every combination with no success
Apr 11 16:41:54 <Roy-Pre101> BigBiff: I just did this.
Apr 11 16:42:08 <Roy-Pre101> You must make your CSS more specific than Palm's to overload the row.
Apr 11 16:42:13 <Roy-Pre101> override
Apr 11 16:42:35 <BigBiff> i see
Apr 11 16:42:58 <Roy-Pre101> You want to do something like alternating rows or just have a specific class by row?
Apr 11 16:46:15 <Roy-Pre101> Here's some CSS from my alternating rows:
Apr 11 16:46:34 <BigBiff> something like - if listmodel.value = 3, row background is blue
Apr 11 16:47:07 <Roy-Pre101> .content-scroller .palm-row-odd {
Apr 11 16:47:07 <Roy-Pre101>   background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.1);
Apr 11 16:47:07 <Roy-Pre101> }
Apr 11 16:47:36 <Roy-Pre101> I added the class content-scroller to the scroller containing my list (though you could probably put it on the list)
Apr 11 16:47:48 <BigBiff> k
Apr 11 16:47:50 <Roy-Pre101> Then, in the list item template
Apr 11 16:48:32 <Roy-Pre101> <div class="palm-row #{row_class}">
Apr 11 16:48:54 <Roy-Pre101> And I added a field to the model list called 'row_class'
Apr 11 16:49:05 <BigBiff> ahhhhhhhhhhhh
Apr 11 16:49:20 <BigBiff> i didnt even think about adding a template for a class
Apr 11 16:49:21 <Roy-Pre101> I need to document that on webos101
Apr 11 16:49:30 <BigBiff> yes - that's good stuff
Apr 11 16:51:24 <BigBiff> so you answered question2
Apr 11 16:51:38 <BigBiff> the styling goes in palm-row, not palm-row wrapper
Apr 11 16:54:55 <Roy-Pre101> Does that get you everything you need/
Apr 11 17:00:21 <BigBiff> yes, that's great stuff - im gonna have to do some css 101 now
Apr 11 17:03:47 <Roy-Pre101> Yeah, CSS is so important
Apr 11 17:03:54 <Roy-Pre101> (and cryptic sometimes)
Apr 11 17:25:28 <BigBiff> ahh, just discovered the row dividers are the backgound image - guess if you want the dividers and a color, you got to create a colored image WITH a divider
Apr 11 17:28:52 <Roy-Pre101> Yes
Apr 11 17:29:00 <Roy-Pre101> That would be good to note.
Apr 11 17:29:17 <Roy-Pre101> I haven't written that yet, if you want to go write about styling list rows, be my guest. :)
Apr 11 18:03:49 <sugardave> pimp it, Roy, pimp it
Apr 11 18:18:03 <Templarian> Anyone notice that webOS completely ignores the minimum-scale for optimized websites? I can't figure out why this was done.
Apr 11 18:25:07 <warpdesign_> Anyone with a Pre willing to help me doing some tests ?
Apr 11 18:34:41 <swisstomcat> warpdesign_: sure
Apr 11 18:36:00 <warpdesign_> great
Apr 11 18:36:21 <Templarian> Someone remind to to ask chuq why the documentation says http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1574#BrowserStandards-MetaViewport yet it fails in a simple test.
Apr 11 18:36:34 <swisstomcat> templarian: i have <meta name="viewport" content="width:320;initial-scale=1.0;user-scalable=yes">  in my code and it seems to work
Apr 11 18:40:05 <Templarian> swisstomcat: I'm using <meta name="viewport" content="width=320; initial-scale=1.0; user-scalable=no"/> and the user can scale.
Apr 11 18:40:24 <swisstomcat> oh
Apr 11 18:40:55 <swisstomcat> haven't tried that yet ... do you have a site to test with?
Apr 11 18:41:01 <Templarian> Other devices work, but webOS ignores the user-scalable=no completely must be a bug.
Apr 11 18:41:24 <Templarian> http://templarian.com/
Apr 11 18:41:54 <Templarian> (coding up a mobile theme so I made it the index)
Apr 11 18:42:23 <swisstomcat> i think i have seen sites where i couldn't scale
Apr 11 18:44:00 <swisstomcat> i can zoom in, but not out
Apr 11 18:44:12 <swisstomcat> isn't that the way it's supposed to be?
Apr 11 18:44:22 <Templarian> No, it's suppose to block both.
Apr 11 18:44:28 <swisstomcat> hmmm
Apr 11 18:44:43 <Templarian> If they wanted what you said they would set the minimum-scale= to something
Apr 11 18:44:46 <swisstomcat> i can understand why you'd block zooming out, but not in
Apr 11 18:45:43 * swisstomcat grabs wife's iphone
Apr 11 18:46:02 <Templarian> Because there is no reason to zoom I only want vertical scrolling. The documentation even says that is what the example is for.
Apr 11 18:46:30 <Templarian> I sold my ipod touch but I remember I couldn't zoom on the web apps.
Apr 11 18:47:23 <swisstomcat> yeah, no zooming there
Apr 11 18:47:28 <swisstomcat> neither in or out
Apr 11 18:47:38 <swisstomcat> must be a bug then
Apr 11 18:47:47 <swisstomcat> wouldn't be the last one :)
Apr 11 18:48:20 <Templarian> Such an obvious bug wonder why it wasn't fixed it's annoying also.
Apr 11 18:48:34 <Templarian> accidently double clicking zooms in for no reason.
Apr 11 18:49:17 <swisstomcat> true
Apr 11 18:49:31 <swisstomcat> unless it sneaked in in the 1.4 release (upgrade to webkit 4)
Apr 11 18:49:44 <Templarian> That's what I'm thinking.
Apr 11 18:49:57 <Templarian> I never tried it on the older ones so maybe.
Apr 11 19:26:59 <JenP> hi all
Apr 11 19:31:22 <swisstomcat> hey jenp
Apr 11 19:31:29 <Templarian> hello JenP.
Apr 11 19:31:40 <JenP> hey swisstomcat...hi Templarian
Apr 11 20:09:06 <BigBiff> bah, me spinners wont stop
Apr 11 20:09:18 <BigBiff> they just keep going and going
Apr 11 20:10:09 <swisstomcat> how are you trying to stop them?
Apr 11 20:22:02 <BigBiff> haha
Apr 11 20:22:05 <BigBiff> im dumb
Apr 11 20:22:11 <BigBiff> "false" is bad
Apr 11 20:22:14 <BigBiff> false is good
Apr 11 20:22:30 <BigBiff> spinners be stopped
Apr 11 20:24:18 <BigBiff> i need the paper clip to pop up and say "did you REALLY just put quotes around false? Dont you want to change that?"
Apr 11 20:24:54 <BigBiff> ....and im off to the store
Apr 11 20:33:20 <swisstomcat> hey lonestar
Apr 11 20:33:59 <LoneStar99> hello swisstomcat
Apr 11 20:34:58 <LoneStar99> how is everything in switzerland?
Apr 11 20:35:17 <swisstomcat> so far so good
Apr 11 20:35:29 <swisstomcat> looking forward to the dev days
Apr 11 20:36:01 <LoneStar99> you going?
Apr 11 20:36:03 <swisstomcat> anyone else coming?
Apr 11 20:36:06 <swisstomcat> yeah
Apr 11 20:36:29 <swisstomcat> it's not that far away from me ;)
Apr 11 20:36:38 <LoneStar99> lol
Apr 11 20:36:51 <LoneStar99> like an hour away
Apr 11 20:37:40 <swisstomcat> more like 14 hours flying
Apr 11 20:39:00 <LoneStar99> is it a direct flight?
Apr 11 20:39:28 <swisstomcat> no, i have to go through jfk
Apr 11 20:39:59 <LoneStar99> not to bad
Apr 11 20:40:15 <LoneStar99> what u flying
Apr 11 20:40:27 <swisstomcat> AA
Apr 11 20:40:41 <swisstomcat> both flights
Apr 11 20:40:50 <LoneStar99> cool
Apr 11 20:41:05 <swisstomcat> and then frontier airlines up to montana on monday
Apr 11 20:41:16 <swisstomcat> through seattle!?
Apr 11 20:41:22 <swisstomcat> no direct flight
Apr 11 20:41:32 <LoneStar99> k
Apr 11 20:41:43 <swisstomcat> are you coming too?
Apr 11 20:43:06 <LoneStar99> not sure
Apr 11 20:43:35 <swisstomcat> too far away? :)
Apr 11 20:46:26 <LoneStar99> thinking of not programming anymore
Apr 11 20:47:02 <LoneStar99> need to move on
Apr 11 20:48:47 <swisstomcat> why?
Apr 11 20:49:41 <LoneStar99> perhaps was not meant to be a coder, just like some folks are not meant to sing
Apr 11 20:50:37 <swisstomcat> oh
Apr 11 20:50:49 <swisstomcat> i'm off .. talk to you guys later
Apr 11 20:50:57 <LoneStar99> ok lates
Apr 11 22:25:32 <zsoc> Where's the best place to define globals? StageAssist()?
Apr 11 22:36:39 <LoneStar99> getting the code
Apr 11 22:42:28 <LoneStar99> zsoc u still there?
Apr 11 22:43:01 <zsoc> generally
Apr 11 22:43:02 <zsoc> ?
Apr 11 22:47:20 <LoneStar99> http://pastebin.com/8g370xrq
Apr 11 22:48:03 <LoneStar99> that is in app-assistant.js
Apr 11 23:01:46 <zsoc> o, ty
Apr 11 23:25:28 <Roy-Pre101> Go write something on webOS101.com!
Apr 11 23:27:38 <LoneStar99> Roy-Pre101:  will tommara just chillin today
Apr 11 23:28:52 <LoneStar99> localization
Apr 11 23:29:30 <LoneStar99> the palm docs are all wrong
Apr 12 01:37:45 <haeffb> I need a patcher.
Apr 12 01:39:21 <Bmyers> i need a pitcher..
Apr 12 01:39:31 <Bmyers> of molsens
Apr 12 01:49:15 <BigBiff> does anyone know how to access the default scene scroller?
Apr 12 01:49:26 <Bmyers> haeffb told me how
Apr 12 01:49:33 <Bmyers> he said use your finger
Apr 12 01:49:36 <BigBiff> hah
Apr 12 01:49:46 <BigBiff> what if my finger is....
Apr 12 01:49:47 <Bmyers> in an up and down motion
Apr 12 01:51:17 <haeffb> yes, I do.
Apr 12 01:52:09 <BigBiff> hang on, i got one more try here
Apr 12 01:52:12 <haeffb> 	var scroller = this.controller.getSceneScroller();
Apr 12 01:52:12 <haeffb> 	//call the widget method for scrolling to the top
Apr 12 01:52:12 <haeffb> 	scroller.mojo.revealTop(0);
Apr 12 01:53:29 <BigBiff> getSceneScroller - gotcha
Apr 12 01:53:48 <BigBiff> getScroller wasnt working
Apr 12 01:53:53 <BigBiff> heh
Apr 12 01:56:59 <BigBiff> my app - shes almost done
Apr 12 01:57:39 <BigBiff> you guys are gonna get lonely without me asking questions every day :)
Apr 12 01:58:55 <Bmyers> i'll prolly just uninstall mirc when you finish your app
Apr 12 01:59:01 <BigBiff> hehe
Apr 12 01:59:22 <BigBiff> good call - its for the best
Apr 12 01:59:53 <Bmyers> a patcher for what haeffb
Apr 12 02:00:13 <haeffb> somebody wants an Agenda button in the Calendar app.
Apr 12 02:00:30 <haeffb> be easy to do, but I don't know patching.
Apr 12 02:00:48 <Bmyers> there is a tool for that
Apr 12 02:00:57 <Bmyers> just change what you need to change
Apr 12 02:01:00 <haeffb> what's his name?
Apr 12 02:01:12 <Bmyers> and diff will figure out the rest for you
Apr 12 02:04:37 <haeffb> dammit, Jim. I'm a doctor, not a scientist.
Apr 12 02:06:24 <Bmyers> diff -u original.c new.c > original.patch
Apr 12 02:06:43 <Bmyers> or in this case
Apr 12 02:06:53 <Bmyers> diff -u original.js new.js > original.patch
Apr 12 02:07:08 <Bmyers>  u r on windows right?
Apr 12 02:08:15 <haeffb> I r on windows write
Apr 12 02:08:43 <Bmyers> http://www.gnu.org/software/diffutils/diffutils.html
Apr 12 02:08:49 <haeffb> this would be a lot easier if there was someone I could convince to do it for me.
Apr 12 02:09:20 <Bmyers> prolly
Apr 12 02:09:27 <Bmyers> but what would you learn?
Apr 12 02:09:32 <haeffb> I think I need to exhaust that possiblity before trying it on my own...
Apr 12 02:16:51 <Bmyers> http://download.cnet.com/Patch-Maker/3000-2383_4-10038161.html
Apr 12 02:30:28 <Roy-Pre101> BigBiff: Why not document that scene scroller thing on webos101.com?  I'm not sure that's up there.
Apr 12 02:38:11 <haeffb> it's there. just not under "scene scroller"
Apr 12 02:43:35 <Roy-Pre101> Mmm
Apr 12 02:58:10 <BigBiff> i didnt see it either
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