**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Apr 25 02:59:56 2010 Apr 25 03:00:24 still having problems pushing stageassistant from appassistant Apr 25 03:02:03 oh, my bad, i'm dumb lol Apr 25 03:04:05 Chriswebos: abandon hope.... I did. :P Apr 25 03:04:11 Chriswebos: what problems? Apr 25 03:04:20 it does work Apr 25 03:04:39 well, my stageassistant does some processing, sets up a global variable, then determines which scene to push Apr 25 03:04:59 However, I want it called from the appassistant, since i want a multi-stage Apr 25 03:05:38 as a single stage, of course my stageassistant works properly (since it's called and setup) Apr 25 03:05:57 however, app-assistant doesn't seem to be creating what I put in StageAssistant Apr 25 03:05:59 you CAN do that. post link to createStageWithCallback docs Apr 25 03:06:37 haeffb_pre: yes... but that doesn't seem to work properly Apr 25 03:06:44 including assistantName as a param Apr 25 03:06:44 (wtf would Palm make a dev site that can't be viewed from phone) Apr 25 03:07:00 it does. i've done it Apr 25 03:07:09 I keep getting an error stating that I can't read warn property of undefined...there's no reference to warn anywhere in my project Apr 25 03:07:20 'StageAssistant' Apr 25 03:07:45 or whatever your assistant os called Apr 25 03:08:20 don't really know how to name it Apr 25 03:08:22 post link? Apr 25 03:08:31 what site allows that? Apr 25 03:08:42 to docs? Apr 25 03:09:00 i thought you were asking me to post a link to my code... Apr 25 03:09:22 no docs for create... Apr 25 03:09:29 i'm assuming you're referring to the palm docs? Apr 25 03:10:13 yes Apr 25 03:10:47 or you can wait 25 mins until I get home Apr 25 03:10:54 I've read over those... don't really get the idea of how to use it tho Apr 25 03:11:07 i'll be up Apr 25 03:19:45 got my notification system up and running.... thanks everyone for the help Apr 25 03:20:08 coolness...at i'm glad you got it Apr 25 03:40:48 Chriswebos: ping Apr 25 03:41:04 still here Apr 25 03:41:59 createStageWithCallback({name: 'myStage', assistantName: 'MyStageAssistant'}, ...); Apr 25 03:42:25 depending on how your stage & assistant are named Apr 25 03:42:47 still unsure of what you mean by name... Apr 25 03:43:11 Chriswebos: at the top of the assistant what does it say? function _______() Apr 25 03:43:11 i have a file called stage-assistant Apr 25 03:43:24 StageAssistant Apr 25 03:43:41 that _should_ be it Apr 25 03:43:56 {name: 'stage', assistantName: 'StageAssistant', lightweight: true} Apr 25 03:44:17 wait a minute!!! Apr 25 03:44:46 hi all Apr 25 03:44:53 it CAN'T be that easy Apr 25 03:45:01 uh. yes it can. Apr 25 03:45:11 Chriswebos: just don't tell anyone please Apr 25 03:45:35 so long as your stage-assistant.js is in sources.json Apr 25 03:45:45 hi JenP Apr 25 03:46:17 OMG!!! Apr 25 03:46:28 did it work? Apr 25 03:46:29 lol Apr 25 03:46:40 hi haeffb! Apr 25 03:46:41 zsoc: right. Apr 25 03:46:43 like a charm!!! Apr 25 03:47:00 wait, let me uninstall...that's the logic my stageassistant does Apr 25 03:47:18 what up, JenP? Apr 25 03:47:58 Chriswebos: in sources.json, what comes up first, stage-assistant.js, or app-assistant.js? Apr 25 03:48:17 haeffb, if you weren't a computer I'd kiss you Apr 25 03:48:42 hey haeffb. Just trying to work on a timer function for the wallpaper app...Josh wants it to change daily Apr 25 03:48:45 stage-assistant Apr 25 03:48:58 um....? Apr 25 03:49:51 * haeffb spins his floppy disks... Apr 25 03:50:19 er, wait. what? Apr 25 03:50:50 huh? wait who? Apr 25 03:51:51 man... the whole "in" has to be at least 5 mins for alarms sucks Apr 25 03:52:13 Tibfib: yeah I know I'm working on the same thing Apr 25 03:52:18 tibfib...makes it suck for testing Apr 25 03:52:27 oh yeahhhhhh Apr 25 03:52:28 use at: Apr 25 03:52:28 gotta wait 5 minutes for each test Apr 25 03:52:31 waiting now Apr 25 03:52:39 hold on. Apr 25 03:52:44 haeffb? use at on? Apr 25 03:54:21 http://www.pastie.org/933676 Apr 25 03:54:29 instead of in: use at: Apr 25 03:54:43 and use something like that to make the string to tell it at when Apr 25 03:55:22 where this.miles.reminderTime is the number of minutes you'd like to wait. Apr 25 03:55:27 like, maybe 0.25 Apr 25 03:56:50 aw, shoot. Apr 25 03:58:31 why didn't they use the output from formatDate instead of that form? Apr 25 03:59:56 *crickets* Apr 25 04:00:05 haeffb: you up for awhile? Apr 25 04:03:40 not a lot longer, but will be around for a few. Apr 25 04:03:44 thanks for the help guys...hitting sack Apr 25 04:04:03 kk Apr 25 04:07:57 Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is Apr 25 04:17:48 Roy-Pre101: good day? Apr 25 04:18:15 night all Apr 25 04:19:42 haeffb: Rockin' Apr 25 04:20:16 Roy-Pre101: do you know if Rick was able to snag anything for me? Apr 25 04:20:25 rwhitby: I do not know. Apr 25 04:21:12 Rick should be on shortly. Apr 25 04:22:10 should I buy Palm stock? Or throw my Pre in the trash? Apr 25 04:22:21 i've bought stock Apr 25 04:22:30 also in sprint Apr 25 04:23:07 haeffb: send your Pre to me Apr 25 04:23:43 i've purchased stock as well Apr 25 04:24:01 * rwhitby already has a broken Pre on the way ready for surgery practice, but it's been in water, so I need a second and third one to salvage a good qwerty keyboard or two Apr 25 04:24:52 rwhitby: yeesh. Apr 25 04:25:22 Roy-Pre101: I'm also considering buying a bad esn Pre Plus and Pixi Plus Apr 25 04:25:41 What exactly is a 'bad esn' Pre? Apr 25 04:26:08 one that the carrier will no longer allow on the network Apr 25 04:26:11 one that cannot be used on a carrier Apr 25 04:26:52 Would that be one reported lost/stolen or something? Apr 25 04:28:19 JenP: is this valid -- "id": Mojo.appName, Apr 25 04:28:50 it's working....don't know if it's valid....i've been replacing those as i find them Apr 25 04:30:12 I would have thought more like Mojo.appInfo.id Apr 25 04:30:31 that definetly makes more sense Apr 25 04:30:38 but I don't know what Mojo.appName is. Apr 25 04:31:27 maybe it's good too Apr 25 04:31:40 I think i set it up as a global Apr 25 04:32:01 Roy-Pre101: dunno, but I check the ESN with a colleague who has contacts at sprint/verizon to make sure it's legit before buying Apr 25 04:32:24 Good plan Apr 25 04:39:18 evening Apr 25 04:39:26 evening Apr 25 04:39:29 hi swisstomcat Apr 25 04:39:45 hi jenp Apr 25 04:40:23 how ya doing? Apr 25 04:40:43 swisstomcat: Hey, back to the hotel Marcus? Apr 25 04:41:02 yeah, lemketron dropped me off .. you? Apr 25 04:42:05 swisstomcat: yo Apr 25 04:42:16 hey haeffb Apr 25 04:42:37 swisstomcat: Yep, back in the hotel Apr 25 04:43:07 i'm tired :) Apr 25 04:43:35 but i'm up for sightseeing tomorrow Apr 25 04:44:28 they talked a bit about the webos-future Apr 25 04:45:01 do we need to wear shades? Apr 25 04:45:50 swisstomcat: Which they? Apr 25 04:46:17 oops, wrong button Apr 25 04:46:21 what did you say, roy-pre101? Apr 25 04:46:59 swisstomcat: Which they? Apr 25 04:47:23 I picked up a crapload of followers on twitter. Apr 25 04:47:34 I feel good about that. Apr 25 04:47:40 well, you did a lot of tweets about the conference Apr 25 04:47:50 ben,dioa and ron Apr 25 04:47:53 dion Apr 25 04:48:10 True. Apr 25 04:48:19 What a great time. Apr 25 04:48:26 i had a hard time even following everyting Apr 25 04:48:54 palm video interviewed me about how developing for webos is and i showed off my app moo Apr 25 04:49:19 swisstomcat: that's great Apr 25 04:49:41 apparently it's going to be used for promotional material about the developer program Apr 25 04:49:53 too cool! Apr 25 04:50:01 roy-pre101 interviewed a lot of people too Apr 25 05:04:52 what's the timing tomorrow, roy-pre101? Apr 25 05:05:10 Not sure. Ws planning to sleep 'til I wake. Apr 25 05:05:23 Maybe around 7:30-8:00 Apr 25 05:05:32 Walk down to train and then ride up to SF. Apr 25 05:15:13 sounds good Apr 25 05:15:26 i can set my alarm to 7 or so and see Apr 25 05:15:38 rick said he'll decide tomorrow if he would come or not Apr 25 05:27:16 everyone still drunk from tied house? Apr 25 05:27:31 * halfhalo_T400 no drink Apr 25 05:27:38 was fun though Apr 25 05:27:43 cool Apr 25 05:28:40 lol @ lemketron-away's title on his card "Senior Bit Pusher" Apr 25 05:29:08 he's got a bunch of wacky titles on business cards on his cube wall Apr 25 05:29:22 ah Apr 25 05:29:55 god. mhs preforms much better than I thought it would Apr 25 05:30:04 mhs? Apr 25 05:30:12 besides the oh god oh god were all going to die overheating messages Apr 25 05:30:16 mobile hotspot Apr 25 05:30:19 ah Apr 25 05:30:27 yeah, works well. I used it in dc last weekend Apr 25 05:30:34 got 300KB/s last night Apr 25 05:31:02 i only got one beer Apr 25 05:31:16 and who's fault was that? Apr 25 05:31:27 i had enough after one :) Apr 25 05:31:31 and i drink slow Apr 25 05:32:13 I was hoping to get away and come down for a drink but could not :( Apr 25 05:32:16 it says "senior bit twiddler" on the card i got Apr 25 05:32:38 heh Apr 25 05:33:25 some questions have popped up regarding js-services .. are you the right person to ask? Apr 25 05:33:53 * halfhalo_T400 is looking forward to js services Apr 25 05:34:16 we get to make our own business cards, with little to no oversight, so I think steve likes to mess around Apr 25 05:34:26 what's the q around services? Apr 25 05:35:26 how would a js-service run /usr/bin/ipkg as root? Apr 25 05:35:38 how do you deliver a service Apr 25 05:35:44 how do you stop/start a service Apr 25 05:36:00 I believe js services will not run as root Apr 25 05:36:11 deliver - will be in an ipk just like everything else Apr 25 05:36:22 start/stop - there will be UI for that, nto sure what else I can say there Apr 25 05:37:58 or start/stop them through the service bus like today? Apr 25 05:38:23 3rd party services will have a GUI that can be used to start/stop/uninstall things Apr 25 05:39:33 only palm's own js-services will have super-cow powers? Apr 25 05:39:47 i mean someone needs to be able to run ipkg as root, no? Apr 25 05:41:14 you know what would be cool? letting devs make plugins for universal search/im/etc Apr 25 05:42:41 * halfhalo_T400 demands his demands be met Apr 25 05:43:29 RAWR Apr 25 05:43:52 halfhalo_T400: that would be cool. I agree. Stay tuned. Apr 25 05:44:20 swisstomcat: you mean run ipkg to unpack things, or what? Apr 25 05:44:40 another question i forgot to ask: is it possible for us a developers to write synergy-plugins/or whatever they are Apr 25 05:44:55 mattsmcnulty: run ipkg to install an app Apr 25 05:45:33 not sure what was announced today, so I am going to not answer that Apr 25 05:45:50 ipkg to install an app will be handled by the palm system, not a service, afaik Apr 25 05:47:12 i see Apr 25 05:47:27 mattsmcnulty: thx for the clarifications, so they are full non-root sandboxed background services written in javascript, using whatever underlying APIs palm exposes to them for use, and nothing more. Should cover 99% of the cases needed. Apr 25 05:47:39 ues Apr 25 05:47:42 yues Apr 25 05:47:43 yes Apr 25 05:47:43 great job with ares and the new debugger/log viewer by the way .. can't wait to try it out Apr 25 05:47:45 yeah, it will work in my case Apr 25 05:47:45 doh Apr 25 05:47:47 thanks Apr 25 05:48:12 is ares capable of being offline/standalone now ? Apr 25 05:48:18 nope Apr 25 05:48:31 would be cool if it was Apr 25 05:48:31 honestly, surprisingly we dont get a ton of requests for that Apr 25 05:48:37 very interesting Apr 25 05:48:52 it's super easy to install locally on mac/linux, but it just isn't something we want to support Apr 25 05:48:59 but there is no technicaly reason that it could not made it Apr 25 05:49:01 mattsmcnulty: can you say whether the existing lnsatool and /var/palm/system-services has anything to do with the new javascript services support, or is that just legacy dbus/java services, but on /var instead of the / partition ? Apr 25 05:49:15 well, I would like to use it on my laptop which has a very bad connection sometimes Apr 25 05:49:31 I'd like to be able to develop webOS apps in the outback ;-) Apr 25 05:49:41 rwhitby - not sure of the question Apr 25 05:49:54 wifi at my school basically only allows one connection per ip at a time or some retarded amount like that Apr 25 05:50:31 i see, it can be installed locally but that won't be supported .. will it be documented how to do it at some point? Apr 25 05:50:34 if you are curious, diving into how we did "centaur" - aka emulator host mode in 1.4.1 sdk Apr 25 05:50:42 mattsmcnulty: no worries, I'm expecting it's just for the upcoming flash binary (assuming it requires a dbus service or browser plugin), cause app cat installs won't r/w the root partition. Apr 25 05:50:53 oh, the db8 stuff was announced today ... i didn't find much information about that, but i was curious Apr 25 05:51:05 yeah, that sounded interesting Apr 25 05:51:05 replacing depot Apr 25 05:51:23 db8 is cool Apr 25 05:51:29 fast. Apr 25 05:51:33 db8 datastore: native json,access controls,fast,pluggable back-end,open source Apr 25 05:51:36 is it not sqlite in the background ? Apr 25 05:51:39 swisstomcat: was there any word at #palmdev about linux PDK ? Apr 25 05:51:51 there is a db in there behind it all Apr 25 05:52:02 * halfhalo_T400 didn't go to the pdk events Apr 25 05:52:02 rwhitby: no, but there will be a new beta in the coming weeks Apr 25 05:52:05 but it's jsut an easier interface than what is currently available ? Apr 25 05:52:41 bpadalino: it's json-based, closer to couchdb or amazon's simpledb than a sql-based system Apr 25 05:53:07 rwhitby: pdk is aimed currently mostly at game devs, and linux isn't a common dev platform for them Apr 25 05:53:10 hell, i would prefer that over sqlite or depot Apr 25 05:53:11 very interesting .. it will all be opened up by the palm folks? Apr 25 05:53:16 i am guessing on github ? Apr 25 05:53:17 mattsmcnulty: understood Apr 25 05:53:29 bpadalino: it is an open source project, I believe Apr 25 05:53:40 they said it's open source Apr 25 05:53:49 mattsmcnulty: what would be good is if we could get permission to redistribute the include files and libraries from the PDK, in a form useable in Linux. Apr 25 05:54:11 there's documentation on the palm developer forums how to make your own linux pdk Apr 25 05:54:17 mattsmcnulty: sorry, include files from the PDK, and corresponding libraries from the webOS doctor or device. Apr 25 05:54:37 swisstomcat: by extracting from Mac PDK ? Apr 25 05:54:50 by extracting from the windows pdk with wine Apr 25 05:54:59 right, the other way :) Apr 25 05:55:18 mattsmcnulty: pdk is not only used for games, especially for mojo integration stuff Apr 25 05:55:39 aimed *currently* *mostly* at game devs Apr 25 05:56:17 swisstomcat: same generalisation applies to mojo devs too Apr 25 05:56:17 and game devs are crazy - they all like windows, for instance Apr 25 05:56:27 * halfhalo_T400 uses windows Apr 25 05:56:40 yeah, how's your zune? Apr 25 05:56:40 http://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=6441 Apr 25 05:56:43 but thats because I like mah switchable graphics Apr 25 05:56:47 Working Port of Windows PDK to Ubuntu Linux Apr 25 05:56:55 heh, watching CSI Miami on it right now Apr 25 05:57:15 gotta say, Love the UI but multitasking would NOT be fun on it Apr 25 05:58:21 I hate the look of the UI, personally Apr 25 05:58:46 but I'm particular that way. I did all of ares myself and got all annoyed when the HI guys would try and suggest things ;-) Apr 25 05:58:55 heh Apr 25 05:59:15 its just.... different from every other design choice Apr 25 05:59:28 and I like difference Apr 25 05:59:47 I also love the OLED screen Apr 25 05:59:53 except in sunlight Apr 25 06:00:06 wrote up the ares log viewer and debugger in case anyone needs instructions Apr 25 06:00:07 http://forums.precentral.net/showthread.php?p=2402995#post2402995 Apr 25 06:00:08 i think the cool thing about the pdk is the mojo/pdk integration .. but how that is going to change with the announced js-service is another question ... e.g bluetooth,low-level network, file-io Apr 25 06:00:12 yeah Apr 25 06:00:29 * rwhitby bbl Apr 25 06:01:04 e.g if i can do low-level network with a js-service then i might not have to use the PDK Apr 25 06:01:39 doing interesting number crunching in the pdk may be good .. Apr 25 06:01:40 yeah, the goal is to have the same set of low level apis available everywhere Apr 25 06:01:41 but what if you want to write your own audio-engine and use it in your mojo app Apr 25 06:01:49 more immersive graphics may be good with the pdk Apr 25 06:02:27 it would be nice to be able to do the zebra crossing stuff with the camera in mojo easily Apr 25 06:02:50 mattsmcnulty you know what would be a good demo of js services you guys could write? and irc service Apr 25 06:02:53 an* Apr 25 06:03:20 psh, who wants demos? next you'll be asking for documentation too! Apr 25 06:03:32 hehe Apr 25 06:03:55 i heard that the documentation is being worked on Apr 25 06:04:02 yeah Apr 25 06:04:03 yeah, it is, actually Apr 25 06:04:12 i talked to fred i think Apr 25 06:04:14 mattsmcnulty: is the atmosphere there still very conducive to good development? or are the rumors on the internets sucking some life out of it all ? Apr 25 06:04:31 rumors are rumors and there is nothing anyone can do about any of em Apr 25 06:04:44 since I pushed out 3 products this week, I could care less Apr 25 06:04:49 they way i heard it that those rumors are just rumors Apr 25 06:05:04 yeah Apr 25 06:05:06 thanks for the clarification :) Apr 25 06:05:22 what 3 products? the ares trio? Apr 25 06:05:26 the death of palm has been predicted about 100 times in the last 15 years Apr 25 06:05:27 yeah Apr 25 06:05:32 good to know my big grain of salt is still useful for those rumors Apr 25 06:05:45 and announced mojo js services, which I guess technically is on my team as well Apr 25 06:05:45 * halfhalo_T400 would buy mattsmcnulty a beer if he could Apr 25 06:06:12 i can bring you some swiss chocolate on monday, mattsmcnulty Apr 25 06:06:13 rwhitby: triton is installed with 1.4.1, if you want to look at it. Apr 25 06:06:29 yup. emulator host mode is built on it, too Apr 25 06:06:48 yeah, but its a early build right? Apr 25 06:06:48 halfhalo_T400: after today, I need more than a beer Apr 25 06:06:50 triton's been there for a while i thought Apr 25 06:06:51 yes Apr 25 06:06:54 Facebook uses it for image uploads. Apr 25 06:07:13 emulator host mode is cool .. you can use for example chrome dev tools to pick apart your app Apr 25 06:07:30 i gotta say, it kinda sucks you had to write your own facebook application instead of fb being excited about writing it themselves Apr 25 06:07:32 mattsmcnulty: Sorry we missed you. Apr 25 06:07:44 yeah - it is somewhat brittle. if you find use cases or apps that break things, let us know please Apr 25 06:08:03 facebook tends not to develop the apps for mobile themselves, regardless of platform Apr 25 06:08:21 they did the iphone and android apps, didn't they ? Apr 25 06:08:21 I think joe hewitt even did the iphone one as a side project unofficially Apr 25 06:08:27 oh interesting Apr 25 06:08:49 i was unaware Apr 25 06:09:03 brb, need scotch Apr 25 06:09:09 yes you do Apr 25 06:10:39 back Apr 25 06:10:46 lies Apr 25 06:10:47 one scotch, one bourbon, one beer Apr 25 06:12:31 nite time for me .. bb Apr 25 06:12:32 l Apr 25 06:12:38 night Apr 25 06:12:39 kk Apr 25 06:12:45 hmmmm Apr 25 06:12:54 to attempt hulu or not to..... Apr 25 06:16:05 having old parents sucks. Apr 25 06:18:18 lol Apr 25 06:18:33 no, trust me. Apr 25 06:19:26 mattsmcnulty: are you interested in swiss chocolate? Apr 25 06:19:59 still got plenty of it .. was too busy to hand it out ... this day went by so fast Apr 25 06:21:42 hmmmm Apr 25 06:21:54 don't want to go deal with nbr forums right now Apr 25 06:22:11 swiss chocolate would be nice right now Apr 25 06:22:17 goes well with scotch Apr 25 06:22:41 God I hate this city Apr 25 06:22:47 which city is that Apr 25 06:22:54 24Mb/s internet for 24 a month Apr 25 06:23:04 the entire silicon valley shall burn Apr 25 06:23:44 I pay like $50 for 30mb/s Apr 25 06:23:47 in sf Apr 25 06:24:04 I hate you Apr 25 06:24:15 I pay 60 for 10 outside of LA Apr 25 06:24:27 ew Apr 25 06:24:32 lala land Apr 25 06:24:33 :-P Apr 25 06:24:48 its either cable or dialup where I live Apr 25 06:24:55 I have cable Apr 25 06:25:22 my dog has decided my mom makes a better sleeping buddy Apr 25 06:25:59 lol Apr 25 06:28:03 awwww Apr 25 06:28:08 mattsmcnulty: i can bring you some over on monday (chocolate) Apr 25 06:28:10 out of movies on the zune Apr 25 06:29:55 ok, there are not enough pres in this room Apr 25 06:30:02 there are only 4 Apr 25 06:33:12 mattsmcnulty: question which you may/may not have the info two but I'm asking anyways out of desparation/boredom. Is there any way to get the vzw doctor distributed along with the sprint doctor in the early access dropbox? Apr 25 07:16:51 anybody here right now? Apr 25 07:17:44 nope Apr 25 07:18:48 dang Apr 25 07:28:57 does v8 have a real problem with small json objects? Apr 25 07:29:22 not that i know of Apr 25 07:29:31 hmm, Apr 25 07:29:38 I'm getting some really weird issues Apr 25 07:29:48 what os ver Apr 25 07:29:51 1.4.1 Apr 25 07:29:59 hmmmm Apr 25 07:30:00 no idea Apr 25 07:30:06 and i am in no condition to help Apr 25 07:30:11 darn it! Apr 25 07:30:20 I've been emailing and forumming Apr 25 07:30:24 but no help yet! Apr 25 07:30:28 * halfhalo_T400 is loopy due to lack of sleep Apr 25 07:30:59 well, the most active people including the palm people are all resting from dev days Apr 25 07:31:14 damn them! Apr 25 07:31:22 I would have gone if I didn't have finals! Apr 25 07:31:38 heh, it was awesome Apr 25 07:32:03 did you go? Apr 25 07:32:13 yup Apr 25 07:32:19 get to drive home tomorrow Apr 25 07:32:26 well, if I win the 100,000 prize I will buy myself a pre plus Apr 25 07:32:32 lol Apr 25 07:32:38 they gave em out to us Apr 25 07:32:43 yeah I heard Apr 25 07:32:47 I was a bit bummed about that Apr 25 07:33:07 jealousy, mostly Apr 25 07:33:27 I would have liked to have gotten some feedback from an engineer, I'm running into a lot of garbage collection problems Apr 25 07:33:57 heh Apr 25 07:34:14 yeah, the engi;s would have helped you no problem Apr 25 07:36:15 damn Apr 25 07:36:22 I've been trying to email them Apr 25 07:36:27 much more difficult to communicate stuff Apr 25 07:36:45 they have been busy lately Apr 25 07:37:35 yeah, I know I know Apr 25 07:37:46 also would have liked to have seen the talk about the new APIs Apr 25 07:39:33 * halfhalo_T400 only has the plus around him right now.... the plain pre is on the other side of the hotel room Apr 25 07:41:40 gooood morning Apr 25 07:42:07 its almost 1 in the morning Apr 25 07:42:15 don't give my that good morning crap Apr 25 07:42:40 :D Apr 25 07:42:53 you're telling that to someone who was up until 5 in the morning Apr 25 07:42:59 its almost 10 now, and I woke up an hour ago Apr 25 07:43:01 so shhh :D Apr 25 07:43:18 i was up till 3 yesterday Apr 25 07:44:07 only? Apr 25 07:44:11 ttssssh :D Apr 25 07:44:42 i got up at 8 and sat through a day of presentations Apr 25 07:45:18 haha are we gonna compete with who slept less :D Interesting presentations? Cause the ones I had to listen were mostly not :D Apr 25 07:45:36 i dont remember Apr 25 07:45:39 to tired Apr 25 07:45:50 :D Apr 25 09:13:40 hello Apr 25 12:50:43 morning Apr 25 12:56:17 hi there Apr 25 12:56:23 what's up ? Apr 25 12:58:56 just sitting down for some Sunday morning coding. Apr 25 12:59:04 alright Apr 25 12:59:05