**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu May 13 02:59:56 2010 May 13 03:35:09 JenP: I don't think there is a lot of information on using the sql database on webos101.com May 13 03:35:13 hint hint May 13 03:35:28 Or maybe you can write an example for the list object loading from sql. May 13 03:36:50 smiles...yes i was on there today..did some pretting up...i will add to it when i get a handle on what i'm doing... May 13 03:45:00 woot! Thanks! May 13 03:46:02 woot back May 13 04:57:10 yo yo May 13 04:59:47 should the pdk not also work with 1.4.1? May 13 05:00:17 pdk-devce-install is saying i need 1.4.0 May 13 05:02:56 im sure they mean >= 1.4.0 May 13 05:04:40 apparently i need to comment out some lines in the shell script May 13 06:46:48 Nyceane: Are you still on 1.3.5 of the SDK? You need upgrade and read this: http://www.jdf-software.com/blog/2010/05/using-audio-in-your-webos-apps/ May 13 08:35:12 hey hey and nice day ;) May 13 08:36:08 is it normal, that in the app catalog the screenshot's are not updated? have updated an abb.. in MyApps on palm dev webstie, i see the new screenshot, but in the abb catalog or on the web not: http://developer.palm.com/webChannel/index.php?packageid=com.winsoft.zimbraaccess May 13 12:52:15 hi there May 13 13:30:31 how can I empty the logfile ? May 13 13:31:06 now can i send messages? May 13 13:31:09 excellent May 13 13:32:17 morning May 13 13:32:21 would anyone here be able to tell me why a textfield widget ALWAYS has focus (even when i set autoFocus and focus both to false)? May 13 13:33:21 morning, swisstomcat, how are you this morning? May 13 13:33:41 hi hattczech May 13 13:34:53 there is something like setInitialFocus(null); May 13 13:35:32 aight, haeffb_pre, let me check that out May 13 13:35:32 probably not exactly that, but a search on weos101 or dev forums may turn it up... May 13 13:36:21 that won't be for the widget itself, but for the page possibly? May 13 13:36:52 yep May 13 13:37:22 you can use it to set focus to a specific widget or none at alll May 13 13:40:15 hmmm, haven't found the exact code yet May 13 13:42:45 setInitialFocusedElement(null)?? May 13 13:44:05 that sounds good May 13 13:44:10 or maybe focus instead of ed May 13 13:44:37 so does a donut... May 13 13:44:55 mmmm, donuts May 13 13:45:03 looks like focused, and it's on scenecontroller May 13 13:45:06 thanks May 13 13:50:34 can't do it in the setup function... maybe in the activate May 13 13:51:58 hey sugardave May 13 13:53:31 finally got it... and it can be done in setup... just this.controller.setInitial... instead of Mojo.Controller.SceneController... May 13 13:56:21 morn'n May 13 13:56:41 morning bmyers May 13 14:00:18 hullo May 13 14:53:25 heyo May 13 15:04:30 hi May 13 15:05:14 Hello May 13 15:05:55 Any developers here interested in discussing a small project that I'm looking to hire someone for? May 13 15:06:07 dkwiebe: only if i can do it May 13 15:06:55 zsoc: can I PM you? May 13 15:07:07 dkwiebe: sure May 13 15:08:28 as long as you aren't a Nigerian prince, i already had 2 email me this morning. May 13 15:10:07 Nigerian prince, I wish. :) May 13 15:10:49 dkwiebe: what kind of project ? May 13 15:12:09 I'm looking for a way to do web content filtering on a few webos devices. It could either be true content filtering using a proxy server,etc,etc or dns based whitelists/blacklists. May 13 15:12:38 I have the proxy servers and can handle dns servers but I have very little experience with webos. May 13 15:13:18 I don't have an unlimited budget but there is some money available for this project. May 13 15:15:04 swisstomcat: hi-lo, teaching class this week, not ignoring you :D May 13 15:42:31 * haeffb_pre got an email from someone at NASA about Myles. I think they're wanting to use it to track shuttle mileage for Congressional reports or something... May 13 15:43:11 are they converting the shuttle to a road vehicle after decomissioning it? May 13 15:44:33 wonder how much it would cost for collision insurance on that May 13 15:44:57 comprehensive will cost you $40,000.00 a month, sir. May 13 15:48:01 heh...he's in the Constellation program....manned spaceflight to Mars. surely they'll use a Palm Pre to track that mileage... May 13 15:49:02 tell them you can make a "branded" version for them for a "small" (standard-governement-sized) fee May 13 15:52:14 ooh. geeat idea! May 13 15:52:55 10% for me, thanks! May 13 15:52:57 um. how will the tracking work without access to the tracking satellites May 13 15:53:09 or am i missing something May 13 15:53:36 you just use GPS: galxical positioning system May 13 15:53:44 galAxical, even May 13 16:23:39 afternoon May 13 16:32:30 heyoo May 13 16:36:48 hi bigbiff,nebula,codeslaw May 13 16:37:03 howdy May 13 17:15:36 ahoy May 13 17:15:51 hi May 13 17:15:53 anybody here mess around a lot with viewport meta settings? May 13 17:16:15 once upon a time I felt like I understood it, but anymore I feel like it never works May 13 17:22:49 geh, figgered it out May 13 17:23:02 thynctank: hey there May 13 17:23:10 Hiya Roy-Pre101 May 13 17:23:26 thynctank: Nice work on getting Rilly out there. May 13 17:23:29 Haven't looked yet. May 13 17:23:47 I have RIL set up but I never got an account. Wonder if it'll automatically import the bookmarks I have. May 13 17:23:48 thanks, I really haven't worked on it much in weeks, but finally decided I needed to do something with it May 13 17:24:05 if you're using RIL you've definnitely got an account May 13 17:24:20 f May 13 17:24:24 oops May 13 17:25:25 right now the login is the only info stored on device in Rilly, but when I have some free time I'll be storing text-only items on device for offline reading May 13 17:26:02 that and the ability to add items from the app are the last two main features I care about, and then just making it pretty May 13 17:40:57 hi roy-pre101 May 13 17:45:40 swisstomcat: hello May 13 17:46:57 what is RIL? May 13 17:47:13 Read-it-later May 13 17:58:08 hey, can anybody test my ipk? May 13 17:59:47 Nyceane: What's it do? May 13 18:00:05 rehi May 13 18:00:16 how long do app reviews take these days? May 13 18:00:20 it gives annoying sound May 13 18:00:42 since i dont have a pre, i just want to make sure it runs right =_= May 13 18:00:48 hey swisstomcat =) May 13 18:00:53 can you test the final version of my app? May 13 18:00:56 hey nyceane May 13 18:00:58 sure May 13 18:01:00 Nyceane: I'll test it. How badly behaved could an annoying sound be? May 13 18:01:37 very =D May 13 18:03:15 Roy-Pre101, which app have you made? :) May 13 18:03:22 you are the go to guy for me now lol May 13 18:03:43 Match 'Em, Match 'Em - Xmas and the palmSpot app. May 13 18:03:57 send it to pre101@pre101.com May 13 18:21:59 Roy-Pre101, any feed backs? =) May 13 18:25:39 got that physics pdk example running May 13 18:25:44 its snappy May 13 18:25:53 yay? May 13 18:26:11 quite May 13 18:26:12 ! May 13 18:27:27 codeslaw_: Using Chipmunk? May 13 18:27:33 yes May 13 18:28:03 just the sample from rob merrel May 13 18:28:05 is that you? May 13 18:28:12 Oh, yeah. That's me. May 13 18:28:19 word May 13 18:28:23 nice job May 13 18:29:06 i'm not actually going to be using a physics engine for my first pdk app, but i wanted to get your sample running as it combines a few things i need to get my head around May 13 18:29:18 I'm using chipmunk in a game right now. I've been getting pretty good performance, so I'm happy with it. May 13 18:29:31 ya it's pretty lightweight May 13 18:29:42 i have experience with iterations of Box2D, have you used that? May 13 18:30:07 Yeah, I get frustrated by the lack of current documentation with it. :) May 13 18:31:22 Mmm, I'm very interested in checking that stuf out. May 13 18:31:38 Any ideas for some stuff on webos101.com? A chipmunk section would be cool. ;) May 13 18:35:08 Nyceane: buttons don't entirely fit on screen on Pre and the ads can be scrolled behind the header. May 13 18:36:39 Nyceane: Hypnotize now button gives 'not a valid palm application' when the app catalog loads. May 13 18:37:17 Nyceane: Use pushScene on the Hypnotize and then use backswipe to get back instead of the back button May 13 18:37:42 Those are my comments. May 13 18:37:52 That said, it works! May 13 18:38:47 Roy-Pre101: A physics engine section would cool on webos101.com. May 13 18:39:05 ::nods:: There's a section to add it to. May 13 18:39:45 Or maybe not. May 13 18:39:56 Is that more closely tied to SDL or to the PDK in general? May 13 18:40:13 PDK in general. May 13 18:40:18 I suppose it's not really SDL specific. May 13 18:40:32 I guess add a section to the topics section of PDK May 13 18:40:42 Maybe a Libraries page. May 13 18:47:02 Roy-Pre101: I'm working on a small SDL game right now and I am planning on making a short tutorial series on creating a mini version of that game from start to finish. Are those tutorials something that would fit well on webos101.com? May 13 18:48:51 Roy-Pre101, did it work? May 13 18:50:53 Robdor: Absolutely, tutorials are great. May 13 18:51:03 Nyceane: Scroll up and see my messages. May 13 18:51:28 Awesome, now I don't have to set up a blog and feel like I need to maintain it. :) May 13 19:02:02 Robdor: haha. May 13 19:17:08 I'm sure I'll slink back here at some point May 13 19:17:13 bubye for now! May 13 20:04:46 How do you sense a tap or hold on the gesture area? I looked in the docs and can't find anything (yet) May 13 20:10:36 catalystmedia: metaKey, I think. keydown event. May 13 20:10:54 Would be a good thing to document. May 13 20:10:59 Thanks Roy-Pre101! That helps a lot :) I'll take a look May 13 20:11:32 Any idea if I can attach that event to the entire document? I guess I'll find out soon enough either way :p May 13 20:12:01 catalystmedia: Yes, you can. May 13 20:13:04 Awesome. That should help with a new feature I'm adding. Thanks! May 13 20:14:03 this.controller.document is what I usually use May 13 20:14:22 I think. May 13 20:15:12 also can just use document I think May 13 20:15:16 document.observer May 13 20:15:18 document.observer May 13 20:15:22 document.observe May 13 20:16:34 Or Mojo.Event.listen(document, ...) May 13 20:18:16 is there a difference between using Mojo.Event.listen, Element.observe and this.controller.listen ? May 13 20:19:55 Roy-Pre101: I'm giving it a shot now :) Thanks buddy! May 13 20:23:28 tell me if it works! May 13 20:34:20 Roy-Pre101: Hmm, not sure about the metaKey thing, but the gesture area does trigger a keydown event with the keyCode of 57575 :) That'll do the trick! May 13 20:34:44 Also, I'm on a Mac, but trying to help someone view the log files on a Windows. How do they do that? Through Putty or something? May 13 20:38:48 palm-log May 13 20:39:19 Or... May 13 20:40:34 Roy-Pre101, did it work? May 13 20:40:35 novacom -t open tty:// May 13 20:40:44 Nyceane: Didn't you read any of my comments? :P May 13 20:42:09 Roy-Pre101: So do you do that through a Putty connection to 127.0.0.1? Also in the novacom example do you put the app ID after the tty:// ? May 13 20:42:38 catalystmedia: You can use putty in place of novacom May 13 20:42:52 with putty it's localhost port 5522 May 13 20:43:24 palm-log will work without putty or novacom May 13 20:44:53 Where would you type palm-log into? The command prompt? May 13 20:45:07 BTW thanks for all the help Roy-Pre101 I've never done this on a Windows machine before :S May 13 20:45:07 yes. May 13 20:45:13 They must have the SDK installed for it to work May 13 20:45:43 Oh, the putty thing was just wrong, by the way, that's for the emulator. May 13 20:46:01 They have it installed so that's taken care of. I just didn't give them the correct port :P I'll tell 'em to try the command prompt. Should be easiest :) May 13 20:46:59 palm-log -d tcp -f com.my app May 13 20:50:49 Ok I sent him the info, hopefully we can get it to work :) Thanks everyone :) May 13 21:01:12 BTW Roy-Pre101 That keydown worked perfectly when binding to the stageController.document (It's a multi-stage app) KeyCode 57575 works well. May 13 21:02:31 Great! May 13 21:02:44 Did you try Mojo.Key.metaKey or whatever it was I said? May 13 21:03:00 Roy-Pre101, thanks =D May 13 21:03:07 but the audio works, right? =) May 13 21:03:11 Nyceane: Welcome. May 13 21:03:12 Yes May 13 21:03:16 * haeffb hooking up a wii May 13 21:03:39 did it annoy you? May 13 21:03:59 Mostly. May 13 21:04:04 lol =D May 13 21:04:06 catalystmedia: Did you see this? http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1859&Itemid=248#.singleTap May 13 21:04:13 fffffffffffffff May 13 21:04:24 Found out what broke in my refrigerator May 13 21:04:29 Roy-Pre101: Yeah, I did and it didn't work haha. I actually tried that first! May 13 21:04:40 Looks like it's a tap-release action. May 13 21:06:04 Mojo.Char.metaKey = 57575; //NEED THIS FOR META CUT/ COPY/ PASTE May 13 21:06:25 I was close. May 13 21:06:55 catalystmedia: If you can add that to webos101.com I'd be grateful! May 13 21:08:04 Roy-Pre101: Sure! What page should I add it do? Also where did you see that documentation? I looked in Mojo.Char and didn't see metaKey :( May 13 21:08:27 how do i make it so that it can't be scrolled behind the header? May 13 21:08:37 catalystmedia: I pull it out of the refcode. May 13 21:08:41 *pulled May 13 21:08:54 Ahh, nice :) I'll put both down in the wiki May 13 21:09:22 Should ping the pdn forum about it missing from the mojo.key documentation. May 13 21:09:28 I don't know where to suggest putting it. May 13 21:10:10 It could go under keyboard, Event.keyDown, a snippet... Sheesh, not sure. May 13 21:12:56 Ooooh. May 13 21:13:14 I'll definitely add it. I'm just trying to remember my password haha May 13 21:13:14 catalystmedia: Did you know you can just check event.metaKey for keyboard events? I -think- that works May 13 21:13:35 Is it a boolean? May 13 21:13:45 Um. yes May 13 21:13:59 Test it out, that's a lot cleaner than keeping your own state. May 13 21:14:01 :) May 13 21:14:10 (I'm harsh but I'm fair) May 13 21:16:09 Yep event.metaKey is a boolean and it does return true when used. Definitely much better than hardcoding the keyCode :) Thanks Roy! May 13 21:19:11 Need to put that stuff into a section on the event.keydown. May 13 21:19:13 I think May 13 21:19:36 event.keyCode, event.type May 13 21:19:40 event.metaKey May 13 21:20:03 Not sure what else might be returned for a keydown May 13 21:24:31 I put it here for now: http://www.webos101.com/Code_Snippets#Sense_a_press_on_the_gesture_area_.28meta_tap.29: Is that ok? May 13 21:29:16 Are there any developer relations people here? Someone who might have an email for someone who could answer a sales tax question? We're in a city that collects sales tax and we're trying to figure out if Palm is collecting sales tax for the city. And if not, how we could determine what sales are made to people with App Catalog accounts within the city limits. May 13 21:29:41 would anyone be able to tell me what would prevent a textfield from working when switching scenes? May 13 21:30:12 i have a text field (and it works) in one scene... then i push another scene... pop back... and now the field won't allow me to edit it May 13 21:31:37 when in the same scene, and you enter something and tap outside ... are you able to tap inside again? May 13 21:31:57 indeed i am May 13 21:32:13 but as soon as i push another scene and come back... stops working May 13 21:32:55 anyone know how was Dev Day? May 13 21:36:16 can i see what the current model of a widget is? (using this.controller.get('obj').?) May 13 21:36:38 i tried mojo.model and model, but those both didn't work May 13 21:36:41 HattCzech: when you set the model, you can just store a reference to i May 13 21:37:29 right, but i want to see if it's changed (and i declare them internally as this.model = {}) May 13 21:39:20 what would change though? May 13 21:41:52 i'm not sure May 13 21:42:02 i wanted to see if somehow disabled got set to true May 13 21:42:19 well, it doesn't work that way May 13 21:42:21 it's just confusing because it works until i push something on top May 13 21:42:31 the model wont change unless you change it May 13 21:42:41 and if i go back to the main scene and push that scene again, it'll work again May 13 21:42:58 are you reading the logs? there might be an error occurring that's preventing some JS from executing May 13 21:43:08 i am reading the logs, and see no errors May 13 21:43:22 what isn't working May 13 21:44:32 being able to click in the textfield and edit once a scene has been pushed and popped May 13 21:45:33 hmmm, okay, so when i push a scene for contacts and pop back, it works, but if i go to my other scene and pop back, it doesn't May 13 21:45:44 so i'm guessing there's something in my pushed scene that's messing it up May 13 21:45:47 what does your other scene do May 13 21:46:02 If the developer decides not to add any active items to a menu, the menu should be removed from the scene altogether. May 13 21:46:04 just shows configuration with a list and check boxes May 13 21:46:05 what does that mean? May 13 21:46:22 If a menu is included in a scene, please ensure it is active and populated with active items. The Help item of a Help scene's menu can appear inactive. If the developer doesn’t wish to provide a help scene for application, help menu items should be removed from the menu. If the developer decides not to add any active items to a menu, the menu should be removed from the scene altogether. May 13 21:46:31 Nyceane: the global app menu up to May 13 21:46:39 top* May 13 21:46:51 the stuff with "copy, paste" etc May 13 21:46:58 if you don't use them, remove them May 13 21:47:12 how do i do that? May 13 21:47:30 let me check, one sec May 13 21:50:29 http://webos.pastebin.com/jXnP0nn9 May 13 21:50:46 catalystmedia: Looks good. Should add you can also detect the keydown using the keycode = mojo.Char.metaKey May 13 21:50:49 put that in your setup for each view you use May 13 21:52:38 hmmm, i wonder if it's because i have two widgets on two scenes with the same name May 13 21:52:58 so i declare them for each view, but maybe that's messing things up May 13 21:52:59 what if i dont even want the about? May 13 21:53:19 Roy-Pre101: Done! May 13 21:53:37 throw it a null, that should work May 13 21:53:51 or an empty item... {} May 13 21:55:37 found my problem... i was setting the innerHTML of an item i had commented out (which had the same name as my other view) May 13 21:55:44 brilliant May 13 21:58:16 hmmm, next issue... figuring out why i have a card open because of app-assistant :/ May 13 21:59:01 got it May 13 21:59:03 thanks May 13 22:00:09 Nyceane: was it null or {} ? May 13 22:00:48 null May 13 22:01:11 cool, glad that worked May 13 22:02:41 i know May 13 22:02:47 now its gona take me days to get approved May 13 22:02:48 lol May 13 22:03:44 14378, I need to make it to the top =-| May 13 22:03:55 I need 4000 more downloads, any idea where i can get that? =P May 13 22:04:06 Nyceane: what app? May 13 22:04:25 Nyceane: sprint stores? May 13 22:04:36 truth May 13 22:04:48 "I'd like to look at the app catalog before I purchase this phone." May 13 22:04:52 lol May 13 22:05:04 heheh May 13 22:05:06 Fantasy Chat May 13 22:05:12 how long does it take to get approved? May 13 22:05:15 "can you bring me your other webOS demo phones? i'd like to see the app catalog on them as well" May 13 22:05:16 codeslaw, search for Fantasy Chat May 13 22:05:18 i'm about to test that soon May 13 22:05:36 yah, but that waste gas money May 13 22:05:48 $10K worth? May 13 22:05:50 and every store only have like 2 phone May 13 22:06:05 if every store has like 100 phones, i can understand May 13 22:06:09 Nyceane: listen to feedback, update with fixes/new features as often as you can May 13 22:06:12 anyone here know the average turnaround for palm app approval? May 13 22:06:25 HattCzech: for a new app... couple days May 13 22:06:27 HattCzech: in the old days it was weeks/months or hours May 13 22:06:52 HattCzech my app took about 3 days May 13 22:06:57 my updates have been going through really quick lately May 13 22:07:13 here's to hoping that mine can make it to the top 221 in the next month and a half... assuming i get it finished soon :) May 13 22:07:29 HattCzech: what is your app May 13 22:07:45 i hope that too.. and i even really like my game... though not that many downloads or comments yet :/ May 13 22:07:59 very basic group list app (like multi-message or super contacts) May 13 22:08:10 but mine will have no limits and be free May 13 22:08:16 well May 13 22:08:28 i'm using it as a foundation for my txt manager app (been in homebrew a while) May 13 22:09:00 as long as it works well and easily, and looks good, you should be fine May 13 22:09:21 if by looks good, you mean looks like a standard palm app, then yeah :) haha May 13 22:09:43 i plan to integrate my character counter in there as well (so it'll be available to the masses) May 13 22:11:16 i just thought super contacts looked too different... and multi-message looks cheap... hopefully mine will fill the gap May 13 22:11:19 palm apps look good May 13 22:11:32 i agree May 13 22:15:40 is there a standard style for header buttons? May 13 22:15:54 (like the preferences/feeds in preware) May 13 22:20:23 can i reference things from original palm apps so i don't have to include copies of the images? May 13 22:22:44 i don't think so HattCzech May 13 22:23:10 i didn't think so, but i like to be hopeful :) May 13 22:23:11 thanks May 13 22:33:01 okay, enough coding for tonight May 13 22:34:34 i said enough ... May 13 22:34:48 do you know the situation when you keep getting back? May 13 22:41:03 another issue... May 13 22:41:23 i have a checkbox in a list... i tap the checkbox... row highlights... is there a way to prevent that? May 13 22:41:41 (it also checks/unchecks the box, but it shouldn't highlight) May 13 22:52:11 anyone? anyone? bueller? May 13 23:10:30 HattCzech: Can you paste the HTML May 13 23:10:45 http://pastie.org May 13 23:14:24 http://webos.pastebin.com/KmqL54NK May 13 23:14:59 x-mojo-tap-highlight="momentary" May 13 23:15:29 i know, i want it to highlight when i select the row, but not when i click the checkbox May 13 23:15:41 (the checkbox is on the row) May 13 23:18:12 maybe that's the way it will always work? but i figured the checkbox area would override the row select area May 13 23:29:29 haeffb: Do you still have TweetMe 1.0.1 installed on your phone? May 13 23:31:02 excuse me, I meant 1.0.0 May 13 23:39:37 hi all! May 13 23:49:25 * phil_bw sighs May 13 23:49:33 I hate being new at stuff May 13 23:49:46 smiles..don't worry it wears off May 13 23:50:03 so what is the *prefered* way to capture key press events and say spit them into a div? May 13 23:50:23 I could do this with my eyes closed on PalmOS but every example I've found shows doing it a different way... May 13 23:50:28 have you looked at the styles example May 13 23:50:45 I don't think so May 13 23:51:04 oh! take a look they give you an example of exactly that May 13 23:51:29 where's this example located? May 13 23:51:47 one sec i have to load it May 13 23:55:16 hmm i cant find it...maybe it's in the services app May 13 23:55:54 i looked around too May 13 23:56:38 dark I know i saw this.. May 13 23:59:57 I gotta go start some rice but do post it if you find it, I'll be back and forth from my computer :) May 14 00:00:06 kk May 14 00:00:31 ok look at UIWidgets in samples May 14 00:01:14 the filter field May 14 00:02:24 OK I FOUND IT...look at the mojomatters sample May 14 00:02:40 in "Key-press Events" it's exactly what you wanted May 14 00:04:59 where are these samples located? May 14 00:05:06 I poked around the web site but didn't see anying... May 14 00:05:19 oh...look on C:\Program Files\Palm\SDK\share\samplecode\samples\mojomatters May 14 00:05:27 ah May 14 00:05:31 Palm gives you a bunch of sample and reference code May 14 00:05:35 pretty cool huh May 14 00:05:38 never knew that... May 14 00:05:59 ;-) May 14 00:06:16 thank ya JenP May 14 00:06:26 anytime May 14 00:07:17 if you ever need help getting X windows to work on your Pre just let me know :) May 14 00:07:36 sounds like a plan May 14 00:09:43 would probably be a far better webos developer had I not spent so much time dinkin around trying to make OpenOffice and whatnot run on my Pre... May 14 00:10:05 not at all...I think OpenOffice is great May 14 00:10:22 and...you could maybe write a tutorial on it up in webos101.com May 14 00:10:26 clue the rest of us in May 14 00:11:15 actually I'm going a step beyond that and working on a simple package, drop one file on your usb drive and install an ipk via webosqi and you're done, just click the icon and you've got X (with OpenOffice preconfigured) May 14 00:11:34 oh that's super cool May 14 00:11:58 and all the while some other webos-internals members are working on an even slicker method of installing it all via preware... but both projects are a ways out... May 14 00:12:54 is it possible to launch youtube programatically? May 14 00:13:14 yeah but so cool that you all are doing it phil_bw May 14 00:13:21 hi pandora May 14 00:14:02 JenP: hi :) May 14 00:14:46 yeah it's a lot of fun, anyhow, off to cook dinner now, thanks again for your help JenP May 14 00:15:24 kk by phil_bw May 14 01:27:26 hmm May 14 01:27:36 +_+ May 14 01:27:41 can anybody else update their app? May 14 01:27:45 mine shows up as incomplete May 14 01:42:51 hmmm.... http://forums.precentral.net/web-os-development/190712-nanplayer-new-music-app-works-updated-preview-video-73.html#post2450660 May 14 01:42:59 Nycaene: Mine did that too awhile ago. I had to click on every tab on the way to the summary (for each language) and then it eventually worked. May 14 01:43:42 catalystmedia: ever find an answer for this: http://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=7016 ? May 14 01:44:53 Tibfib: No sir I did not :( I would love to know that as well! Would be a very cool feature. May 14 01:45:12 you should bump the topic then ;) May 14 01:49:32 Done :) May 14 01:50:44 catalystmedia: thanks May 14 01:52:15 Tibfib: Do you have your app up right now to try the runTextIndxer real quick? I have something you could try :) May 14 01:53:19 yeah May 14 01:53:40 Try: PalmSystem.runTextIndexer May 14 01:54:30 ah, yeah I noticed that when browsing the files May 14 01:54:33 I'll try it May 14 01:54:49 It is used in the messaging app instead of the standard Mojo.Format way, but it may just be an alias... May 14 01:55:17 if you check the format file in a webos doctor... it references PalmSystem.runTextIndexer May 14 01:55:57 still works, but no emoticons May 14 01:56:19 :/ May 14 01:57:10 So strange. I'll keep looking in the messaging app and let you know if I find anything May 14 02:03:27 catalystmedia: you could try downloading the latest webos doctor and trying to find the palmsystem functions. May 14 02:04:19 Tibfib: Hmm, I might do that. How do you open up the webOS doctor to view the source? May 14 02:05:02 use 7zip May 14 02:05:08 ...if windows May 14 02:05:36 I'm trying to find it now... no luck so far May 14 02:06:11 can anyone tell me why this delete dB function doesn't work? http://pastebin.com/DpGFukDh May 14 02:07:04 it doesn't throw an error, and i do get DELETE SUCESS May 14 02:07:29 but it doesn't actually remove it...if i refresh and come back the data's still there May 14 02:26:00 Tipfib: Somehow I got it almost working... it replaces the icons correctly, but..... I'm not allowed to access the emoticons file: "error: Not allowed to load local resource: file:///usr/palm/emoticons/emoticon-laugh.png" so it just displays blank. So close! May 14 02:26:16 ooooooooh, what did you do? May 14 02:27:23 I think I just used: PalmSystem.runTextIndexer What version of webOS are you running? May 14 02:27:37 my emu is 1.4.1 May 14 02:28:00 good evening everyone May 14 02:28:05 LoneStar99: howdy May 14 02:29:09 howdy Tibfib May 14 02:30:42 Tibfib: Mine only worked on device. Does it work on device? May 14 02:31:10 catalystmedia: give me a sec to test May 14 02:32:30 hey LoneStar99 May 14 02:33:35 catalystmedia: can't test it, pre won't connect via usb cord. I need to get a replacement. May 14 02:33:41 (pre) May 14 02:33:55 GAAAAAH, I changed my app ID to com.palm.tweetme instead of com.catalystmediastudios.tweetme and smileys work. Looks like the images are only available to Palm apps. Tibfib May 14 02:34:20 waaaaaaa, lame sauce May 14 02:35:29 Sooo close haha May 14 02:35:56 want me to update the topic? May 14 02:36:10 hi JenP May 14 02:37:16 hello May 14 02:37:40 Can anyone tell me when does palm transfer payments to developers? May 14 02:38:24 Tibfib: Sure! That'd be great :) May 14 02:38:50 Bill_: about the 22nd of the month May 14 02:39:22 awesome, thanks May 14 02:46:45 catalystmedia: do the emoticons work when using mojo.format, or just palmsystem with a com.palm id? May 14 02:47:03 Loks like mojo.format works as well May 14 02:48:25 catalystmedia: mmkay, thanks May 14 02:48:41 You're welcome May 14 02:59:22 anyone know the science behind a lavalamp or more specific would it fall under physics algorithms? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri May 14 02:59:56 2010