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May 15 03:03:41 <JenP> has anyone been able to get the latest sdk beta release? it's not in the drop box
May 15 03:07:02 <oil> did you ask for access again?
May 15 03:07:25 <JenP> i can get into the drop box folder fine...there's just nothing in it
May 15 03:07:28 <oil> there is a post on the forums saying to do that
May 15 03:07:39 <JenP> really? k i'll look
May 15 03:08:03 <oil> i emailed them this morning
May 15 03:08:05 <oil> still no response
May 15 03:08:21 <JenP> well i got that email from them saying it was out
May 15 03:08:26 <oil> right
May 15 03:08:31 <oil> so did i
May 15 03:08:45 <JenP> and we still have to ask for access? weird
May 15 03:09:02 <oil> https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=6924
May 15 03:09:27 <JenP> yup reading it now
May 15 04:33:43 <Tibfib> http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/34184/1-year-domain-name-registration-or-transfer ... if anyone needs a domain name
May 15 04:34:16 <destrudo> You get paid to screw that polar bear?
May 15 04:37:25 <drewp> jQuery.ajax(... timeout: 15000) seems to have no effect. When the web server stalls, i never get any success nor error callback
May 15 06:45:45 <woznotwoz> hello, list
May 15 10:13:48 <warpdesign> good morning
May 15 11:42:05 <swisstomcat> heya
May 15 12:10:10 <swisstomcat> how would i transfer an app from one phone to the other?
May 15 13:27:51 <haeffb> is there a gui tool for Windows for viewing sqlite databases?
May 15 13:38:34 <swisstomcat> i thought so
May 15 13:39:19 <swisstomcat> http://www.sqlite.org/cvstrac/wiki?p=ManagementTools
May 15 13:39:31 <swisstomcat> and there's a firefox plugin i think
May 15 13:40:21 <haeffb> using slqiteAdministrator
May 15 13:40:33 <haeffb> http://sqliteadmin.orbmu2k.de/
May 15 14:37:39 <rkcr> haeffb: SQLite Database Browser is my weapon of choice: http://sqlitebrowser.sourceforge.net/
May 15 14:44:14 <haeffb> swisstomcat: ping
May 15 14:45:25 <Tibfib> whoa, looks like this install failed thing is widespread
May 15 14:46:27 <haeffb> really? bummer
May 15 14:46:34 <haeffb> I thought it was just me
May 15 15:24:28 <haeffb> Tibfib: what was that WP theme you showed a while back...?
May 15 15:34:17 <Tibfib> haeffb: elegantthemes.com ?
May 15 15:34:56 <Tibfib> http://www.elegantthemes.com/gallery/ to be exact. tibfib.com is running 13floor
May 15 15:36:24 <Tibfib> bbl
May 15 16:13:47 <JenP> hi al!
May 15 16:15:12 <JenP> is anyone around who can answer a list question re dB?
May 15 16:20:41 <haeffb> nope
May 15 16:20:47 <haeffb> er...wait...yes.
May 15 16:20:54 <JenP> smiles...hi haeffb
May 15 16:21:07 <haeffb> halfhalo will help
May 15 16:21:13 <JenP> lol
May 15 16:21:22 * haeffb working on website
May 15 16:21:29 <JenP> very cool
May 15 16:21:35 <JenP> did they take new pictures?
May 15 16:22:21 <haeffb> not that website
May 15 16:22:24 <haeffb> and, no
May 15 16:22:32 <JenP> lol
May 15 16:22:53 <haeffb> http://tigercountrysoftware.com/
May 15 16:23:04 <haeffb> trying to get it looking nice before I publish Done
May 15 16:23:12 <JenP> very cool
May 15 16:26:44 <haeffb> hey, what was that mobile theme for WP (abandoning Joomla...)
May 15 16:26:58 <JenP> one sec let me look it up
May 15 16:28:49 <JenP> carrinton mobile
May 15 16:29:03 <JenP> http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/search.php?q=mobile
May 15 16:29:10 <JenP> you have 3 to chose from
May 15 16:33:56 <haeffb> what was your DB list question?
May 15 16:35:01 <JenP> well i've got it so it will delete and add. but when I add it doesn't automatically update the list. I have to escape out of the card and come back to see the new data
May 15 16:35:24 <JenP> i thought this would refresh it but it didn't
May 15 16:37:30 <JenP> so i guess my question is how do you make the list update with the new added data?
May 15 16:37:48 <haeffb> it doesn't automagically add the new item in your listModel.
May 15 16:38:12 <haeffb> Are you still doing the load from DB in activate() ?
May 15 16:38:32 <JenP> no from setup
May 15 16:38:46 <haeffb> move it to activate
May 15 16:38:52 <JenP> kk
May 15 16:42:48 <JenP> still no joy
May 15 16:43:17 <haeffb> pastie
May 15 16:43:52 <JenP> kk
May 15 16:46:04 <JenP> http://pastebin.com/HxdTuvD7
May 15 16:51:20 <haeffb> ah. Didn't realize you were using a dialog.
May 15 16:51:36 <JenP> yeah is that bad
May 15 16:52:22 <haeffb> no, but activate() won't be called after the dialog, like it would after pushing/popping another scene.
May 15 16:52:28 <haeffb> you'll need to add a callback function
May 15 16:53:05 <JenP> ok..i'll try and let you know how i do.
May 15 16:53:07 <haeffb> 79:               assistant: new  storeInfoAssistant(this, this.activate.bind(this)),
May 15 16:53:14 <haeffb> or
May 15 16:54:08 <haeffb>               assistant: new  storeInfoAssistant(this, this.loadListFromDB.bind(this),
May 15 16:54:19 <JenP> nodnod...
May 15 16:54:24 <JenP> thank you
May 15 16:54:48 <haeffb> have fun!
May 15 16:56:08 <JenP> smiles...will do
May 15 17:19:46 <Tibfib> haeffb: nice. see you went with elegantthemes
May 15 17:36:51 <Tibfib> is developer.palm.com down for anyone else?
May 15 17:37:48 <Tibfib> nvm
May 15 17:59:08 <Tibfib> ah. i was right! developer.palm.com is down... they better be fixing the install problem
May 15 18:04:34 <swisstomcat> ping haeffb
May 15 18:04:40 <swisstomcat> install problem?
May 15 18:05:47 <swisstomcat> ah, just saw the precentral post
May 15 18:08:41 <tyrok> You know how, in the web browser app, if you start typing it automatically pops up a search/address bar at the top?  Any way to disable that so the key presses get passed to the page's Javascript onkeywhatever events?
May 15 18:09:48 <haeffb> swisstomcat: you have mail...
May 15 18:15:48 <swisstomcat> ok
May 15 18:17:41 <swisstomcat> allright, i'll start the translation engine :)
May 15 18:40:23 <Tibfib> does Mojo.Controller.appInfo.title work in the app-assistant? It isn't working in mine.
May 15 18:57:44 <haeffb> Tibfib: Mojo.appInfo.title;
May 15 19:00:21 <Tibfib> haeffb: thanks
May 15 19:25:57 <HattCzech> anyone know how to align commandmenu items?
May 15 19:26:17 <Tibfib> HattCzech: yep
May 15 19:26:29 <Tibfib> how do you want to do it?
May 15 19:26:35 <HattCzech> Tibfib: would you be able to enlighten me? :)
May 15 19:26:45 <HattCzech> i've got an icon in the bottom left, i'd like it in the bottom right
May 15 19:27:20 <HattCzech> the only arguments i know of are label, icon, and command
May 15 19:27:23 <Tibfib> add {}, before it
May 15 19:27:31 <HattCzech> and i can't reference the palm dev site atm
May 15 19:27:59 <Tibfib> pastebin the code
May 15 19:28:04 <Tibfib> I'll show ya
May 15 19:28:13 <HattCzech> {label:$L('New'), icon:'newchat', command: 'compose'}
May 15 19:28:22 <HattCzech> that's the item in the array
May 15 19:28:35 <Tibfib> okay just do {}, {label:$L('New'), icon:'newchat', command: 'compose'}
May 15 19:28:39 <Tibfib> you add a blank item
May 15 19:28:41 <HattCzech> okay
May 15 19:29:06 <HattCzech> odd, but that worked
May 15 19:29:08 <HattCzech> thank you
May 15 19:29:35 <HattCzech> since you've played with this before... how do i throw arguments to the command?
May 15 19:30:30 <Tibfib> not sure on that one
May 15 19:30:39 <HattCzech> hehehe, damn
May 15 19:30:41 <HattCzech> thanks anyway
May 15 19:30:49 <Tibfib> could use global variables... but that's kind of ineffective
May 15 19:31:20 <HattCzech> yeah, that kinda defeats the purpose
May 15 19:33:37 <HattCzech> do you know how to hide and show the command menu?
May 15 19:33:48 <HattCzech> i tried updating the model, but that didn't work
May 15 19:33:51 <Tibfib> yep, give me a sec
May 15 19:34:04 <HattCzech> i'm guessing i need something similar to the updateditems thing of lists
May 15 19:34:16 <Tibfib> this.controller.toggleMenuVisible(Mojo.Menu.commandMenu);
May 15 19:34:18 <Tibfib> will toggle it
May 15 19:34:35 <HattCzech> sweet, thanks again
May 15 19:34:42 <Tibfib> it's something like this.controller.setMenuVisible(Mojo.Menu.commandMenu, true); to set it to a specific state
May 15 19:35:17 <HattCzech> ahhh, good to knonw
May 15 19:35:21 <HattCzech> know*
May 15 19:37:45 <halfhalo> pie
May 15 19:39:02 <Tibfib> brownies.
May 15 19:39:21 * Tibfib is hungry. bbl
May 15 19:41:35 * halfhalo is going to taco bell since he loses his car in a day. AGAIN'
May 15 20:03:24 <JenP> hi all
May 15 20:09:42 <joetweeply> oh developer site is down?
May 15 20:12:12 <Tibfib> yep!
May 15 20:14:41 <haeffb> what does y'all think of this... http://tigercountrysoftware.com/
May 15 20:15:21 <Tibfib> haeffb: thumbnails aren't set up?
May 15 20:15:25 <joetweeply> images missing
May 15 20:15:30 <JenP> looks good...you're gonna add images right?
May 15 20:19:01 <haeffb> wait, what?
May 15 20:19:41 <Tibfib> haeffb: your thumbnails aren't set up
May 15 20:20:08 <haeffb> they ... were ...
May 15 20:20:38 <Tibfib> some are... but not all
May 15 20:21:50 <haeffb> fixed
May 15 20:22:24 <Tibfib> haeffb: looks good
May 15 20:23:55 <joetweeply> yeah... but the initial graphics would be cooler if it were a mix of all programs, not just the image of the next one
May 15 20:24:16 <haeffb> need to figure out how to get the thumbnails in the scroller from resizing/cropping...
May 15 20:24:24 <haeffb> joetweeply: agreed...
May 15 20:26:02 <Tibfib> haeffb: don't think you can... I tried as well.
May 15 20:27:19 <Tibfib> So I'm needing feedback... what should I put for "in contacts"? http://tibfib.com/apps/contacts..PNG It is a checkbox to show whether a person is in their contacts and then add them if clicked on
May 15 20:28:54 <JenP> hey haeffb: do you know if it's possible to add icons to a command menus submenu?
May 15 20:29:14 <haeffb> I think that it is.
May 15 20:29:31 <JenP> i haven't been able to get it to work...very frustrating
May 15 20:29:55 <haeffb> are you using css class for the icons?
May 15 20:30:08 <JenP> i believe so
May 15 20:30:21 <JenP> it works in the regular command menu...just not the subs
May 15 20:30:33 <Tibfib> JenP: use the inspector to see what is happening
May 15 20:30:42 <JenP> kk
May 15 20:31:25 <haeffb> I haven't actually tried it, so I don't know for sure if it works.
May 15 20:36:05 <JenP> Tibfib: the inspector's hard to understand seems very laggy
May 15 20:36:29 <Tibfib> JenP: hah, I didn't make it. not my fault.
May 15 20:36:49 <JenP> lol yeah ...so what am i looking for exactly?
May 15 20:37:01 <Tibfib> Just what the popup menu looks like html wise
May 15 20:37:21 <Tibfib> you could see why your class isn't showing up or something
May 15 20:37:40 <JenP> well what's weird is it's stuck on the first card
May 15 20:41:34 <haeffb> Tibfib: looks like you have to make the image exactly 406x266
May 15 20:41:54 <Tibfib> haeffb: really? lameee
May 15 20:42:29 <JenP> do i need to create an html div for the command menu's submenu?
May 15 20:42:45 <Tibfib> JenP: nope
May 15 20:43:03 <haeffb> JenP: pastie your command menu model
May 15 20:43:15 <JenP> kk
May 15 20:44:41 <JenP> http://pastebin.com/tuTkFKXF
May 15 20:47:26 <Tibfib> JenP: I think you'd have to hack the code to get icons to work
May 15 20:47:37 <JenP> darn
May 15 20:47:57 <Tibfib> don't think there is a official palm way of doing it
May 15 20:48:04 <JenP> i know it also had a "iconpath" attribute but that didn't help any
May 15 20:48:17 <HattCzech> Tibfib: do you know how to get contacts using crud and the id?
May 15 20:48:28 <Tibfib> HattCzech: maybe... lol
May 15 20:48:36 <Tibfib> depends on what you want to do
May 15 20:48:38 <HattCzech> or is that not possible unless you have an account and created the user
May 15 20:48:39 <HattCzech> ?
May 15 20:48:46 <HattCzech> i just want to update contact info
May 15 20:48:57 <HattCzech> but it's telling me the contact doesn't exist
May 15 20:48:59 <HattCzech> which is a lie
May 15 20:49:17 <Tibfib> you can't access contacts you didn't create
May 15 20:49:28 <HattCzech> then why can i pick them? :/
May 15 20:49:40 <Tibfib> I'm not sure I'm getting what you want to do
May 15 20:49:52 <HattCzech> okay... i'll give more details
May 15 20:50:37 <HattCzech> i use the contacts picker... select a user... store the id... later... the user gets changed... so i want to pull the new contact info using that id... but it's erroring and saying the user doesn't exist
May 15 20:51:23 <joetweeply> haeffb: now the welcome article is under the slider
May 15 20:51:37 <Tibfib> ah, yeah haven't done that. docs are down so I can't look it up
May 15 20:51:53 <HattCzech> i HAD it working using undocumented methods :)
May 15 20:51:58 <Tibfib> hah
May 15 20:52:00 <HattCzech> but that won't fly for app catalog
May 15 20:52:06 <Tibfib> what are you even making?
May 15 20:52:15 <HattCzech> so i tried the crud method and it failed me
May 15 20:52:31 <HattCzech> sms group messaging program
May 15 20:52:51 <Tibfib> nice
May 15 20:53:00 <HattCzech> like multi-message lite (but not ugly) and super contacts (but not crazy looking)...
May 15 20:53:06 <HattCzech> and it'll be free
May 15 20:53:19 <swisstomcat> rehi
May 15 20:53:25 <HattCzech> and i'm debating to have ads or not
May 15 20:54:08 <Tibfib> HattCzech: your issue seems to be a little strange... you should make a topic in the dev forums (when they are up)
May 15 20:54:28 <HattCzech> i will do that
May 15 20:54:34 <HattCzech> any idea when that might be? :)
May 15 20:54:55 <Tibfib> no clue, hopefully today
May 15 20:55:20 <HattCzech> what's the mojo messenger thing you're working on?
May 15 20:55:33 <Tibfib> a bbm style chat app
May 15 20:55:52 <HattCzech> bbm?
May 15 20:56:00 <Tibfib> blackberry messenger
May 15 20:56:06 <Tibfib> here's an OLD video of it: http://tibfib.com/2010/02/new-app-announcement-mojo-messenger/
May 15 20:56:07 <HattCzech> oh cool
May 15 20:56:54 <phiberoptik> http://images2.hiboox.com/images/0610/8aaa8aadd7fc01f5fbe864c3320b475c.jpg
May 15 20:56:56 <phiberoptik> new setup
May 15 20:56:59 <phiberoptik> watercooled gpu/cpu
May 15 20:57:02 <phiberoptik> i want a super quiet system
May 15 20:57:58 <JenP> woo hoo got the icons working....
May 15 20:58:04 <phiberoptik> http://images2.hiboox.com/images/0610/8aaa8aadd7fc01f5fbe864c3320b475c.jpg
May 15 20:58:26 <JenP> for submenus you must define them as a pop-up class
May 15 21:00:29 <Tibfib> JenP: since Roy-Pre101 isn't chiming in... I will. Add it to webos101.com!
May 15 21:00:35 <Tibfib> :)
May 15 21:00:41 <JenP> LOL will do
May 15 21:00:54 <JenP> code snippets?
May 15 21:01:36 <Tibfib> probably would be best for now. Untill submenu gets added properly
May 15 21:01:45 <JenP> kk
May 15 21:02:34 <HattCzech> anyone played with widgets in lists?
May 15 21:02:42 <HattCzech> like checkboxes?
May 15 21:03:13 <Tibfib> HattCzech: see the mojo matters sample
May 15 21:03:18 <Tibfib> it came with the sdk
May 15 21:03:21 <JenP> HattCzech: I believe haeffb has
May 15 21:03:40 <HattCzech> i'm trying to find the index of the item that was toggled
May 15 21:04:01 <HattCzech> it gives me the model, but i don't want to search through my list
May 15 21:04:06 <Tibfib> woops, ignore my post then ;P
May 15 21:04:30 <HattCzech> hehe, thanks for the help, though
May 15 21:04:36 <HattCzech> it was a bit tricky getting them setup
May 15 21:06:21 <haeffb> event.originalEvent.target.id
May 15 21:06:32 <swisstomcat> g'night everyone
May 15 21:06:39 <haeffb> event.index
May 15 21:07:06 <HattCzech> i tried event.index
May 15 21:07:10 <HattCzech> i'll try target.id
May 15 21:08:33 <Tibfib> swisstomcat: cya
May 15 21:08:42 <HattCzech> that works, thanks
May 15 21:11:47 <HattCzech> actually, no, that didn't work
May 15 21:11:56 <HattCzech> doesn't know what originalevent is
May 15 21:12:23 <Tibfib> do event.target.id then ;P
May 15 21:12:36 <HattCzech> tried that too :)
May 15 21:13:01 <HattCzech> event.target is also undefined
May 15 21:13:43 <Tibfib> HattCzech: I think it may be a problem with something else... where are you calling that?
May 15 21:14:06 <HattCzech> called on the tap of the checkbox in the list
May 15 21:14:26 <HattCzech> the propertychanged event, sorry
May 15 21:17:01 <Tibfib> hmmm just found this comment in mojomatters/app/assistants/lazylistlazywidgets-assistant.js // grab the list item. Note that this will be fixed in 1.5 so event.target will be the list item
May 15 21:19:00 <HattCzech> hahaha, well, in the future, that will be nice :)
May 15 21:19:47 <Tibfib> heh, you could try replicating what palm does
May 15 21:20:07 <Tibfib> although, I doubt your list is set up like palm's
May 15 21:24:41 <HattCzech> i don't think that would work, eitehr
May 15 21:24:43 <HattCzech> either*
May 15 21:24:58 <HattCzech> since it's not on the list-tap event, it doesn't have the info i'm looking for
May 15 21:25:05 <HattCzech> just the model, which is annoying
May 15 21:27:26 <Tibfib> so no one has any ideas? "what should I put for 'in contacts'? http://tibfib.com/apps/contacts..PNG It is a checkbox to show whether a person is in their contacts and then add them if clicked on"
May 15 21:29:01 <HattCzech> "contact added"?
May 15 21:29:17 <HattCzech> "available contact"?
May 15 21:29:28 <Tibfib> Contact Added might work
May 15 21:33:34 <Tibfib> I think it will, thanks
May 15 21:37:07 <HattCzech> cool, glad i could return the help :)
May 15 21:37:18 <HattCzech> and i'm off for now
May 15 21:52:14 <sugardave> hi chuqui
May 15 21:52:23 <phiberoptik> we need more apps in the webos store!
May 15 21:52:31 <sugardave> is the dev site being upgraded or is this a weekly maintenance kind of thing?
May 15 21:52:38 <chuqui> hey
May 15 21:52:56 <chuqui> dev site is down to allow us to focus on the app catalog stuff.
May 15 21:53:01 <sugardave> ah
May 15 21:53:10 <sugardave> I have been out of the loop
May 15 21:53:12 <chuqui> just updated the blog to note that.
May 15 21:53:19 <sugardave> decided I would pop in today and see what's going on
May 15 21:53:31 <chuqui> not much...
May 15 21:56:49 <JenP> sugardave: I got my delete function to work with the dB!
May 15 21:57:37 <phiberoptik> nice
May 15 21:58:04 <sugardave> JenP: awesome, sorry I hadn't responded yet...been trying to rid my front yard of stickers
May 15 21:59:03 <JenP> Oh it's ok
May 15 22:11:47 <sugardave> JenP: so now you are a Mojo db expert :D
May 15 22:12:07 <JenP> i wouldn't even say i made it to novice yet LOL
May 15 22:12:31 <sugardave> hehe
May 15 22:13:07 <Tibfib> JenP: using the this.db transaction crap?
May 15 22:13:21 <JenP> yup
May 15 22:13:31 <Tibfib> have you seen the database class?
May 15 22:13:39 <Tibfib> by Monroe I believe
May 15 22:13:43 <JenP> no
May 15 22:14:09 <Tibfib> http://webos.pastebin.com/FrvqKBbG
May 15 22:14:14 <JenP> cool thanks
May 15 22:14:15 <Tibfib> makes using db enjoyable
May 15 22:14:21 <Tibfib> well... not a pain
May 15 22:14:39 <JenP> well those were two words i wouldn't have put together ...
May 15 22:15:14 <JenP> oh wow that is nice
May 15 22:15:29 <JenP> hmmm...Tibfib you should put that on webos
May 15 22:15:44 <Tibfib> hmm I should!
May 15 22:21:08 <Tibfib> done: http://webos101.com/Mojo_Storage_Database
May 15 22:23:19 <Tibfib> I think palm should include this database class
May 15 22:24:07 <Nyceane1> hi
May 15 22:24:19 <Nyceane1> how do i make my thread wait?
May 15 22:24:33 <JenP> Tibfib: that would be nice
May 15 22:24:35 <Nyceane1> setTimeOut cant be used in activate
May 15 22:25:01 <Tibfib> Nyceane: do you mean setTimeout?
May 15 22:25:18 <Nyceane1> tibfib, like i want the application to wait for 5 seconds and i'll load next picture
May 15 22:25:50 <Tibfib> Nyceane: setTimeout should work, pastebin your code
May 15 22:26:07 <Nyceane1> one second
May 15 22:27:08 <Nyceane1> http://pastebin.com/r1N31GFC
May 15 22:27:27 <Nyceane1> i tried that in setup, activate
May 15 22:27:34 <Nyceane1> neither works
May 15 22:27:47 <JenP> Roy-Pre101: ping!
May 15 22:27:56 <Nyceane1> it always pop up when i try to insert numbers
May 15 22:28:21 <Tibfib> try this: http://pastebin.com/Kkw0Q9fa
May 15 22:28:30 <JenP> Tibfib: do you have admin rights to webos101? I need someone to give it them to me so I can mod the main page
May 15 22:28:53 <Nyceane1> JenP, can you promote my app after doing that? =)
May 15 22:29:03 <Tibfib> JenP: I don't think so
May 15 22:29:21 <JenP> no worries I'm sending roy and instant message
May 15 22:29:31 <Tibfib> JenP: what do you mean edit the main page?
May 15 22:29:37 <Tibfib> I can edit it?
May 15 22:30:11 <Tibfib> like the sidebar?
May 15 22:30:13 <JenP> oh...so can i I was looking at the wrong wiki LOL
May 15 22:30:24 <Nyceane1> Tibfib, it doesn't do anything
May 15 22:31:17 <Tibfib> Nyceane1: the timer is set to 1/10 of a second
May 15 22:32:08 <Nyceane1> yah, but its not loading image at all now
May 15 22:32:29 <Tibfib> your this.FakeBooting() is bound... ?
May 15 22:32:47 * haeffb needs an icon for "Not in the Palm App Catalog"
May 15 22:33:55 <Nyceane1> Tibfib, what do you mean is bound?
May 15 22:34:41 <Nyceane1> yah its bound
May 15 22:35:29 <Tibfib> err.. nvm
May 15 22:35:34 <Nyceane1> if yuou comment in             this.controller.get('test').insert(j);
May 15 22:35:45 <Nyceane1> you'll see that the loop is being ran
May 15 22:36:02 <Nyceane1> its just not stoping
May 15 22:38:26 <Tibfib> hmm, no clue Nyceane
May 15 22:40:23 <Tibfib> try increasing the milliseconds
May 15 22:40:53 <Nyceane1> i've tried, it just loads up the last frame
May 15 22:41:05 <Nyceane1> if i use             this.setImages().delay(100);
May 15 22:41:12 <Nyceane1> it just gets stuck on the first frame
May 15 22:41:26 <Tibfib> why do you even need to delay it?
May 15 22:42:04 <Nyceane1> well, otherwise i'd have to load a vidoe
May 15 22:42:05 <Nyceane1> video
May 15 22:42:15 <Tibfib> oh... I see what is going on
May 15 22:42:17 <Nyceane1> its just looping some pictures
May 15 22:42:35 <Nyceane1> i dont feel that user have to download entire video of that
May 15 22:43:47 <Tibfib> I don't think your code will work as it is set up... When this.FakeBooting is run I think it creates 15 timeouts set for 100 milliseconds each
May 15 22:43:55 <Tibfib> thus you only see the last frame
May 15 22:45:12 <Nyceane1> i made interval a lot longer
May 15 22:45:15 <Nyceane1> still wont see it
May 15 22:45:48 <Tibfib> what about this: http://pastebin.com/9ycQ9MpA
May 15 22:46:13 <Tibfib> err this: http://pastebin.com/c9ikhemu
May 15 22:47:07 <Tibfib> something like that...
May 15 22:47:16 <Nyceane1> http://pastebin.com/wP7HabJd
May 15 22:47:19 <Nyceane1> TAKE A LOOK AT THIS
May 15 22:47:24 <Nyceane1> sorry about the cap
May 15 22:47:33 <Nyceane1> take a look at this, only 0 is being hit
May 15 22:50:06 <Tibfib> why do you need two for statements?
May 15 22:51:39 <Tibfib> http://pastebin.com/dtJq3D7h
May 15 22:52:12 <Nyceane1> i just set the delay to 100000000
May 15 22:52:17 <Nyceane1> on setTimeOut
May 15 22:52:21 <Nyceane1> it still pops up right away
May 15 22:52:29 <Tibfib> that's cuz you don't have the "" around it
May 15 22:52:56 <Tibfib> try what I pastebinned
May 15 22:53:07 <Tibfib> changing j < 5 to whatever you need it to be
May 15 22:53:36 <Nyceane1> ok
May 15 22:53:39 <Nyceane1> what does "" do?
May 15 22:54:11 <Tibfib> that's what you wrap the javascript you want timed-out in
May 15 22:54:15 <Nyceane1> with "" around it, it doesnt pop up anything
May 15 22:54:16 <Tibfib> err with
May 15 22:54:29 <Nyceane1> whole screen is blank
May 15 22:54:37 <Tibfib> "this.setImages()" doesn't work?
May 15 22:54:45 <Nyceane1> nope
May 15 22:54:51 <Nyceane1> i just did a simple test
May 15 22:54:53 <Nyceane1> one sec
May 15 22:55:25 <Tibfib> OH
May 15 22:55:32 <Tibfib> give me a sec
May 15 22:55:38 <Nyceane1> http://pastebin.com/iMUrjbM7
May 15 22:56:06 <Tibfib> there: http://pastebin.com/egNvNiCq
May 15 22:56:46 <Tibfib> you gotta bind it... my bad.
May 15 22:57:09 <Tibfib> "" is for plain ol js (I believe, I've been wrong before :P)
May 15 22:57:53 <Nyceane1> it only loads up the first frame
May 15 22:58:34 <Tibfib> shooooooooooot. idk anymore
May 15 22:58:38 <Nyceane1> lol
May 15 22:58:48 <Nyceane1> i dont think it have to load from activate
May 15 22:58:53 <Nyceane1> its gotta load somewhere else
May 15 22:59:27 <Tibfib> use http://ares.palm.com/AresLog/ to see the logs, it might tell you something
May 15 23:01:36 <Nyceane1> Error: Cannot call method 'delay' of undefined, line undefined, file undefined
May 15 23:04:17 <Tibfib> did you try what I posted? it didn't use delay...
May 15 23:06:59 <Nyceane1> yah, doesnt work
May 15 23:07:06 <Nyceane1> it just skips it, and log doesnt say anything
May 15 23:08:10 <Tibfib> well best of luck, heading out
May 15 23:08:33 <Nyceane1> thanks =)
May 15 23:08:49 <Nyceane1> Roy-Pre101, I summon you!
May 15 23:16:55 <Nyceane1> chuqui is gone =(
May 15 23:26:00 <Nyceane1> i got it working a little bit
May 15 23:26:06 <Nyceane1> anybody here? =-P
May 15 23:26:13 <joetweeply> me
May 15 23:26:18 <joetweeply> just in though
May 15 23:27:03 <Nyceane1> are you good with javascript?
May 15 23:34:21 <joetweeply> well... let's see
May 15 23:34:43 <joetweeply> what's the matter?
May 15 23:36:23 <Nyceane1> i can't seem to get settimeout or delay to work =(
May 15 23:37:12 <joetweeply> how do you try to do it?
May 15 23:37:31 <Nyceane1> one sec
May 15 23:37:40 <Nyceane1> http://pastebin.com/wP7HabJd
May 15 23:37:49 <Nyceane1> tyring to make it that every few seconds a 0 would pop out
May 15 23:37:57 <Nyceane1> but it seems that 0 is poping out at the same time all the time
May 15 23:38:48 <joetweeply> try
May 15 23:38:49 <joetweeply> setTimeout( this.setImages.bind( this ), 500 );
May 15 23:39:09 <Nyceane1> i ddi
May 15 23:39:10 <Nyceane1> did
May 15 23:39:12 <Nyceane1> i m doing a loop
May 15 23:39:22 <Nyceane1> so it end up showing all the 0 after 5 seconds
May 15 23:39:29 <Nyceane1> they come in bulk rather than 1 by 1
May 15 23:40:18 <joetweeply> okay, so what exactly do you want to accomplish?
May 15 23:41:15 <Nyceane1> i m trying to make it that every second a new picture would show up
May 15 23:41:20 <Nyceane1> this way its a slide show
May 15 23:41:29 <joetweeply> why not use setInterval then?
May 15 23:41:37 <Nyceane1> hmm, let me see
May 15 23:41:42 <joetweeply> like
May 15 23:41:42 <joetweeply> setInterval( this.setImages.bind( this ), 1000 );
May 15 23:41:58 <joetweeply> but don't forget to clearInterval when you don't need it anymore
May 15 23:44:22 <Nyceane1> ok
May 15 23:44:24 <Nyceane1> let me try that
May 15 23:44:27 <Nyceane1> thanks
May 15 23:44:36 <joetweeply> np and good luck
May 15 23:53:24 <Nyceane1> hey
May 15 23:53:28 <Nyceane1> setInterval has same problem
May 15 23:53:31 <Nyceane1> it goes in bulk
May 16 00:02:04 <joetweeply> show me the code again
May 16 00:02:15 <joetweeply> because for me it works all fine how it is expected to work
May 16 00:33:38 <Nyceane1> hey, if i make an app about apple
May 16 00:33:49 <Nyceane1> by using their icon, did i violate their term of usage?
May 16 00:33:55 <Nyceane1> i mean, copyright and stuff
May 16 00:34:16 <Nyceane1> I am just wondering, if I release the app completely free, without any ads, can i still get sued?
May 16 00:36:38 <Nyceane1> and also, the term of use is personal use, if i release an app without making money, thats not business use, right?
May 16 00:47:44 <Templarian> Nyceane1: you must specify copyright holders to which assets.
May 16 00:48:37 <Templarian> http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/5383/mobile.png Final draft before I start coding it.
May 16 00:57:12 <JenP> here's a question, how do I remove the default row from a list?
May 16 01:02:23 <JenP> haeffb: ping!
May 16 01:06:08 <haeffb> pong!
May 16 01:10:39 <JenP> hi haeffb
May 16 01:11:02 <JenP> adding the this.activate.bind(this) didn't work on refreshing the card with dB stuff
May 16 01:15:16 <haeffb> you have to call it from the dialog when you close.
May 16 01:15:29 * haeffb has mobile site working now...
May 16 01:15:43 <JenP> call it with the this.loadListFromDb() ?
May 16 01:16:18 <haeffb> you send to the dialog the function from the scene assistant that you want to run
May 16 01:16:38 <haeffb> activate() or loadListFromDb() - either will work
May 16 01:16:51 <JenP> ok
May 16 01:17:08 <haeffb> then save the function in the constructor of the dialog
May 16 01:18:05 <haeffb> function myDialog (callbackFunction) {...}
May 16 01:18:20 <haeffb>  this.callbackFunction = callbackFunction;
May 16 01:18:55 <JenP> so i add that to the dialog box js?
May 16 01:20:03 <haeffb> yes....there should already be a constructor....so add a parameter to receive the function (...like callbackFunction...)
May 16 01:20:14 <Nyceane1> just web released my new prank app =D
May 16 01:20:15 <Nyceane1> lol
May 16 01:20:19 <Nyceane1> hopefully I don't get sued
May 16 01:20:40 <Nyceane1> i already put down icons and screens are property of microsoft
May 16 01:20:45 <haeffb> then save it as a property of the dialog controller (...like this.callbackFunction = callbackFunction;...)
May 16 01:23:15 <JenP> function storeInfoAssistant(sceneAssistant) {
May 16 01:31:06 <Nyceane1> web distribution use to be instant
May 16 01:31:11 <Nyceane1> now i gotta wait =_=
May 16 02:27:08 <Roy-Pre101> Hey, anyone around?
May 16 02:43:02 <Roy-Pre101> Guess not!
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