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Jun 04 03:18:07 <Megatherium> ...
Jun 04 03:19:25 <bpadalino> i agree
Jun 04 03:19:57 <Megatherium> !!!,
Jun 04 03:21:40 <bpadalino> whoa, settle down, tiger!
Jun 04 03:22:13 <Megatherium> Sorry about that, testin' a color scheme...
Jun 04 03:22:28 <bpadalino> oh, it's ok then
Jun 04 03:22:57 <halfhalo> sdfsdfds
Jun 04 03:23:17 <bpadalino> so much jibberish
Jun 04 03:23:22 <halfhalo> yup
Jun 04 03:23:26 <halfhalo> totally wrong channel to
Jun 04 03:25:14 <Megatherium> Ditto. That was supposed to go into an empty one.
Jun 04 03:26:10 * Megatherium shrugs apologetically.
Jun 04 04:22:17 <Amaranth> hmm, is it just me or are all of the downloads on the virtualbox website missing?
Jun 04 04:25:19 <halfhalo> nodejs-irc say hi
Jun 04 04:25:46 <halfhalo> Good.  It errors out properly
Jun 04 04:25:52 <halfhalo> nodejs-irc leave
Jun 04 04:26:52 <Amaranth> crap, downloads.virtualbox.org _is_ down
Jun 04 04:26:58 <Amaranth> so much for installing the SDK on OS X
Jun 04 04:30:54 <pandora--> halfhalo: lol
Jun 04 04:31:00 <pandora--> you have such the boner for node.js
Jun 04 04:31:16 <halfhalo> I wrote a friggin irc bot in it in a day
Jun 04 04:31:20 <halfhalo> that is win
Jun 04 04:31:42 <pandora--> lol
Jun 04 04:36:51 <Amaranth> in a day? that's not very win at all :P
Jun 04 04:37:11 <Amaranth> everything takes an hour
Jun 04 04:37:19 <halfhalo> Well, I started today not knowing anything about node.js
Jun 04 04:37:28 <halfhalo> and now I have a mini
Jun 04 04:37:29 <halfhalo> bot
Jun 04 04:37:34 <halfhalo> what do YOU have?
Jun 04 04:39:16 <Amaranth> Ok, joke missed
Jun 04 04:39:25 <halfhalo> I got the joke
Jun 04 04:39:29 <halfhalo> and killed it
Jun 04 04:39:32 <halfhalo> with FIRE
Jun 04 04:39:35 <Amaranth> :(
Jun 04 04:39:50 * Amaranth goes back to figuring out how to make a hybrid app
Jun 04 04:49:21 <pandora--> halfhalo wins
Jun 04 04:49:48 <halfhalo> I always do
Jun 04 05:27:25 <pandora--> what the key for the orange button in the emulator?
Jun 04 05:31:58 <Amaranth> odd, I don't seem to be getting my icon for my hybrid app
Jun 04 05:32:25 <Amaranth> I've tested the icon with a dummy app created using palm-generate and I'm using palm-package to package the hybrid
Jun 04 05:32:44 <rwhitby> pandora--: option on a mac
Jun 04 05:33:05 <pandora--> non-mac?
Jun 04 05:33:13 <Amaranth> alt?
Jun 04 05:33:38 <pandora--> doesnt seem to work
Jun 04 05:33:50 <pandora--> oh well, not terribly important
Jun 04 05:33:52 <Amaranth> super?
Jun 04 05:34:06 <Amaranth> If it's not those it probably isn't implemented
Jun 04 05:35:46 <Amaranth> http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1744#Emulator-KeyboardShortcutsEmulator says it's Alt
Jun 04 05:44:03 <pandora--> hrm
Jun 04 05:44:04 <pandora--> ok
Jun 04 05:44:33 <pandora--> when i hold alt and tap a link in the browser, I'd expect it to give me the option to load the link in a new card, etc
Jun 04 05:44:36 <pandora--> doesn't
Jun 04 05:44:40 <pandora--> oh well, no biggie
Jun 04 06:28:23 <HotDP> Good morning
Jun 04 06:51:46 <HotDP> Is there an event that is triggered on a scene when you go back to it?
Jun 04 06:57:19 <pandora--> morning
Jun 04 06:57:24 <pandora--> HotDP: yes
Jun 04 06:58:02 <pandora--> activate() is called
Jun 04 06:58:17 <HotDP> :) thanks for the anser
Jun 04 06:58:22 <HotDP> answer
Jun 04 06:58:26 <pandora--> setup() is called only once, active() is called whenever it hits the screen
Jun 04 06:58:52 <HotDP> so active is  ALWAYS called
Jun 04 06:59:00 <pandora--> *activate()
Jun 04 06:59:06 <pandora--> yes
Jun 04 06:59:22 <HotDP> Can you give me the complete method?
Jun 04 06:59:43 <HotDP> I use Ares.. And have been using MainAssistant but that is only trigggered once
Jun 04 07:00:09 <pandora--> <my assistant>.prototype.activate = function(event) { /** **/ }
Jun 04 07:00:38 <pandora--> dunno how ares masks stuff, so, YMMV
Jun 04 07:01:31 <HotDP> so main-assisiant.prototype.activate = function(event) { /** **/ } ?
Jun 04 07:02:35 <pandora--> in theory
Jun 04 07:03:05 <pandora--> that should be called, so long as there's nothing tricky going on within ares
Jun 04 07:03:16 <pandora--> and the assistant has a view
Jun 04 07:03:19 <HotDP> Where shall i place the code? jslint complains
Jun 04 07:03:24 <pandora--> lol
Jun 04 07:03:31 <pandora--> man, you're hackin with ares
Jun 04 07:03:32 <pandora--> i dunno
Jun 04 07:03:55 <pandora--> it SHOULD just be in main-assistant.js
Jun 04 07:04:12 <HotDP> i know :)
Jun 04 07:04:13 <HotDP> and it is
Jun 04 07:04:15 <pandora--> but, check sources.js and see if it's actually MainAssistant
Jun 04 07:04:20 <HotDP> just if it shall be in top
Jun 04 07:04:26 <pandora--> i mean, MainAssistant.prototype.etc etc
Jun 04 07:04:47 <pandora--> position doesn't matter, it's an attribute (but function) of the object
Jun 04 07:05:07 <HotDP> MainAssistant is better
Jun 04 07:05:23 <pandora--> cool
Jun 04 07:07:49 <HotDP_> My browser crashed :S
Jun 04 07:07:56 <HotDP_> Did you write something?
Jun 04 07:13:46 <pandora--> nope
Jun 04 07:15:11 <HotDP_> it seems the methods crashes Ares
Jun 04 07:15:24 <HotDP_> MainAssistant.prototype.activate = function(event) { /** **/  console.log("TEEEEEEEEEEEEEST"); };
Jun 04 07:16:47 <HotDP_> its right?
Jun 04 07:18:53 <HotDP> It does not crash now, but it does not work? i dont see the log?
Jun 04 07:19:08 <pandora--> erm
Jun 04 07:19:30 <pandora--> what other assistants do you have?
Jun 04 07:19:41 <pandora--> and/or does "main" actually have a view?
Jun 04 07:19:49 <pandora--> or is it just setting up other views?
Jun 04 07:21:53 <HotDP> hmm
Jun 04 07:22:20 <HotDP> If main have a view?
Jun 04 07:22:27 <swisstomcat> morning
Jun 04 07:22:30 <HotDP> morning
Jun 04 07:22:35 <swisstomcat> hi hotdp
Jun 04 07:22:55 <HotDP> pandora-- i really dont know :(
Jun 04 07:23:09 <HotDP> I have function MainAssistant(argFromPusher) { that is called once
Jun 04 07:23:34 <pandora--> what views do you have in the app folder?
Jun 04 07:23:41 <pandora--> swisstomcat: yo
Jun 04 07:23:56 <swisstomcat> hi pandora
Jun 04 07:23:57 <HotDP> main, pref, support
Jun 04 07:24:57 <pandora--> hm.
Jun 04 07:25:16 <pandora--> what other functions are in MainAssistant?
Jun 04 07:25:30 <pandora--> can you maybe pastebin Main so i can see how it's laid out?
Jun 04 07:26:04 <swisstomcat> what's the problem, hotdp?
Jun 04 07:26:56 <HotDP> i think i see something
Jun 04 07:27:15 <HotDP> i solved it!
Jun 04 07:27:35 <HotDP> in my mainassistiand method 	activate: function() { 	console.log("TEEEEEEEEEEEEEST"); 	},
Jun 04 07:28:13 <pandora--> ah there ya go
Jun 04 07:28:42 <pandora--> HotDP: you in the US?
Jun 04 07:28:56 <HotDP> no :(
Jun 04 07:29:04 <HotDP> wish i was :P why?
Jun 04 07:29:18 <HotDP> but thanks alot!
Jun 04 07:29:40 <pandora--> http://www.ustream.tv/pbsnewshour
Jun 04 07:29:46 <pandora--> we can all watch along
Jun 04 07:29:59 <pandora--> honestly, it's kind of mind blowing watching this
Jun 04 07:30:14 <pandora--> it's the live camera from the underwater rover at the BP spill
Jun 04 07:30:31 <pandora--> it's pointing right at the oil, it's crazy to watch
Jun 04 07:30:45 <HotDP> I am watching
Jun 04 07:30:54 <HotDP> its damn tragic :S
Jun 04 07:31:36 <HotDP> I got another Q, how do i translate radiobuttons? If i in Ares change the JSON so that it contains L it just removes it?
Jun 04 07:31:57 <pandora--> dunno
Jun 04 07:36:27 <warpdesign> hi
Jun 04 07:37:22 <swisstomcat> hi warpdesign
Jun 04 07:37:34 <HotDP> Another who knows that?
Jun 04 07:37:56 <swisstomcat> @hpnews: "HP says it's in the smartphone market, after all" - @Engadget http://bit.ly/crhyeL tip @techmeme $HPQ
Jun 04 07:43:33 <swisstomcat> warpdesign: try http://developer.apple.com/safaridemos/
Jun 04 07:45:25 <warpdesign> swisstomcat: won't work on my browser
Jun 04 07:45:32 <swisstomcat> which one?
Jun 04 07:45:33 <warpdesign> I'm not using Apple's software, I'm forbidden to see it
Jun 04 07:45:35 <LoneStar99> swisstomcat that is awesome
Jun 04 07:45:35 <warpdesign> any
Jun 04 07:45:42 <warpdesign> there's a browser detection
Jun 04 07:45:43 <swisstomcat> it works here, try it
Jun 04 07:45:50 <swisstomcat> chrome on linux
Jun 04 07:45:57 <warpdesign> doesn't on opera/windows
Jun 04 07:46:03 <swisstomcat> hmm
Jun 04 07:46:42 <swisstomcat> doesn't work with firefox
Jun 04 07:47:31 <warpdesign> of course, firefox isn't implementing proprietary h264..
Jun 04 07:48:24 <swisstomcat> strange
Jun 04 07:53:09 <warpdesign> strange, nah, it's called "opened" ;)
Jun 04 07:53:53 <warpdesign> funny apple is claiming open standards and is locking it to its platform.. not to mention they'll earn money from these patents (h264)...
Jun 04 07:54:42 <LoneStar99> so happy the ceo of HP went back on his word
Jun 04 07:55:25 <LoneStar99> soon he will be replaced
Jun 04 07:56:39 <swisstomcat> the damage is already done
Jun 04 07:56:53 <swisstomcat> e.g the news that only report on the first statement
Jun 04 07:57:12 <LoneStar99> that fool is out the door already
Jun 04 07:58:17 <LoneStar99> he has no ceo experience,
Jun 04 07:58:34 <swisstomcat> ruby will take over?
Jun 04 07:58:45 <LoneStar99> perhaps
Jun 04 08:00:43 <LoneStar99> no good ceo makes such bold statements, when a deal has not been made
Jun 04 08:04:06 <HotDP> anyone who can help me with translation on radiobuttons? If i in Ares change the JSON so that it contains L it just removes it?
Jun 04 08:05:03 <swisstomcat> can you post the code?
Jun 04 08:06:21 <HotDP> Its hard, it just dont accept the JSON changes? the editor Ares uses
Jun 04 08:06:22 <LoneStar99> no ares experience here
Jun 04 08:06:43 <HotDP> I fell like a am the only one in the world (or in here) using ares
Jun 04 08:07:07 <swisstomcat> i have not used it enough yet
Jun 04 08:07:16 <swisstomcat> can you post the code for setting up the radiobuttons?
Jun 04 08:07:41 <warpdesign> well, do you really think hp just spent $1.2 billion just to give money to palm ?
Jun 04 08:07:52 <warpdesign> they of course bought it for their own interests..
Jun 04 08:07:56 <HotDP>   {     label: $L("Man"),     value: 68   },
Jun 04 08:07:56 <warpdesign> this is just logical
Jun 04 08:09:55 <HotDP> When i pres OK it just removes $L so it says "Man"
Jun 04 08:12:04 <HotDP> swisstomcat, do you need more code?
Jun 04 08:12:29 <swisstomcat> no, i'll try to test in ares
Jun 04 08:12:34 <swisstomcat> wow, moo is up to #90
Jun 04 08:13:18 <LoneStar99> have seen so many companies fail, because a ceo that takes control, thinks out of their ass, that they have the answer, but what sucks they have no clue
Jun 04 08:13:54 <LoneStar99> but yet they have the most control
Jun 04 08:14:23 <swisstomcat> and palm has to keep quiet until the merger is over
Jun 04 08:14:24 <HotDP> thanks swisstomcat
Jun 04 08:15:05 <LoneStar99> and they suck at every decision they make becacuse they have power they never had before
Jun 04 08:16:13 <zefanjas> hello...is there a way to add a hold Event to a list?
Jun 04 08:16:18 <LoneStar99> at the end, they are in for the money
Jun 04 08:16:22 <swisstomcat> hello
Jun 04 08:16:29 <swisstomcat> a hold event?
Jun 04 08:16:44 <zefanjas> swisstomcat, jpp
Jun 04 08:18:16 <zefanjas> I found this https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2517&start=0 but I want to know wich item was tapped and held
Jun 04 08:19:27 <LoneStar99> when the CEO of HP Mark Hurd made the statements against WebOS being a leader in the mobile sector. and boldly saying it fuck him
Jun 04 08:20:42 <swisstomcat> zefanjas: would't be the item be in the variable i?
Jun 04 08:21:06 <swisstomcat> hotdp: toggle button?
Jun 04 08:22:18 <HotDP> Radio
Jun 04 08:22:59 <HotDP> swisstomcat : Radio Button
Jun 04 08:23:36 <swisstomcat> maybe i'm blind, i don't see a radio button in ares
Jun 04 08:23:36 <zefanjas> swisstomcat, wait...
Jun 04 08:24:19 <LoneStar99> where was Mr. Mark Hurd, when all the developers built an app, that we all thought would be brilliant, and most apps have their brilliance., regardless of how simple.  Mark Hurd was in Napa Valley drinking the best wine.
Jun 04 08:25:46 <LoneStar99> And has no clue that a developer loves what he does.
Jun 04 08:27:20 <LoneStar99> HP fuck you for making seem like nothing
Jun 04 08:27:46 <HotDP> swisstomcat it does not "look" like a normal radiobutton (html) it is shown with A - B
Jun 04 08:27:55 <swisstomcat> oh
Jun 04 08:28:04 <HotDP> Row 1 button 7
Jun 04 08:28:58 <swisstomcat> found it
Jun 04 08:30:09 <HotDP> super :)
Jun 04 08:30:14 <swisstomcat> yeah, doesn't work
Jun 04 08:30:26 <swisstomcat> have you posted this to the ares forum on developer.palm.com?
Jun 04 08:32:19 <HotDP> No ?
Jun 04 08:32:39 <HotDP> I thought it could not be true that you can not translate a radio button? Like, it is to unreal
Jun 04 08:33:00 <HotDP> and that it was me that was wrong as so many times before hehe
Jun 04 08:33:04 <swisstomcat> ares is still under development
Jun 04 08:33:57 <HotDP> I guess i have to use another widget for my app then. i make a post now
Jun 04 08:37:29 <HotDP> thanks for trying
Jun 04 08:37:31 <HotDP> :)
Jun 04 08:41:26 <LoneStar99> never do i say what is wrong, but have began to reveal a bag of tricks
Jun 04 08:43:05 <LoneStar99> it all began yesterday with the ceo of google on the board of apple, the ceo knowing he had a product that was going to compete with apple.
Jun 04 08:46:24 * rwhitby gets out the popcorn for LoneStar99's gripping saga
Jun 04 08:46:57 <LoneStar99> if  I take a 1.49 soda from a store and not pay I will be arrested, these men broke federal laws and they are still drinking a bottle of wine, worth more than a hard working american makes in a day
Jun 04 08:49:00 * rwhitby has 37 minutes while waiting for this MeeGo download to complete
Jun 04 08:49:16 <rwhitby> LoneStar99: tell us more - what else is wrong with America?
Jun 04 08:49:47 <LoneStar99> it is not an american problem it is a world issue
Jun 04 08:50:48 <rwhitby> nah, doesn't happen in Australia, so it can't be a world issue
Jun 04 08:53:43 <LoneStar99> nothing really happens anywhere you are right
Jun 04 08:56:00 <LoneStar99> wasn't the austrian olympian that was good at his skiing get some bad press b/c he had a malware enterprise
Jun 04 08:56:37 <LoneStar99> sorry austrilian olympian
Jun 04 08:57:22 <swisstomcat> this is what's wrong with america: http://ow.ly/1TWWf
Jun 04 08:58:07 * swisstomcat is working on a tuts-app
Jun 04 08:59:35 <LoneStar99> swisstomcat:  you are right, but where is Exxon or the companies with answers. sadly they have no anwsers because, they are all involved in the same risky exploration
Jun 04 09:00:48 <swisstomcat> i agree that it's risky .. but how good are those risks managed and overseen?
Jun 04 09:01:08 <LoneStar99> the government was sleeping
Jun 04 09:01:30 <LoneStar99> or partying with the industry
Jun 04 09:10:47 <rwhitby> I thought they were drinking wine with the CEOs
Jun 04 09:11:48 <LoneStar99> rwhitby: would never, b/c I prefer humanity over greed
Jun 04 09:16:10 <LoneStar99> would prefer a hot beer by myself than drinking the best wine with folks that will never give a shit about people  under them
Jun 04 09:18:20 <LoneStar99> apparently the CEO of HP, thought that by what he said he would be brilliant, he was looking at himself and not the people that busted their ass to build HP
Jun 04 09:22:08 <LoneStar99> it is like a kid given a $100 dollars to buy candy. do you think the kid is thinking, let me give some candy to my "friends"  or the others.  He selfiously wants all the candy, good knowing that he has enough to spread around.
Jun 04 09:34:45 <HotDP> Friday... will be good when i am not at work anymore
Jun 04 09:39:53 <LoneStar99> a good Friday will be when, all the folks in power, actually to something for the broken man and not for themselves
Jun 04 09:40:33 <LoneStar99> actually to - actually do
Jun 04 09:42:51 <HotDP> You where from us rigt?
Jun 04 09:43:25 <LoneStar99> by the way not in a christian movement. I do not believe in god, bc the ones that need god the most, god just shits on
Jun 04 09:44:08 <LoneStar99> HotDP: yeah from the US
Jun 04 09:44:18 * rwhitby waits for godwin to appear
Jun 04 09:46:14 <LoneStar99> the US is a brilliant country, but it got lost in greed
Jun 04 09:47:09 <warpdesign_> back
Jun 04 09:48:08 <swisstomcat> rehi
Jun 04 09:49:07 <HotDP> Can i ask where in US?
Jun 04 09:49:25 <HotDP> Because i did not think alot of US people was thinking like that?
Jun 04 09:51:27 <swisstomcat> texas i think
Jun 04 09:52:51 <LoneStar99> Texas
Jun 04 09:53:36 <swisstomcat> texas, the lonestar state
Jun 04 09:54:14 <LoneStar99> but southern california is brilliant
Jun 04 09:55:05 <HotDP> Texas was the last place i thought. But that is my preconception :S
Jun 04 09:55:12 <HotDP> sry
Jun 04 09:55:36 <LoneStar99> holding back got me nothing, so now i just speak the truth
Jun 04 09:56:25 <HotDP> I think its fine. Just not the US mentality i was thinking you had in the south
Jun 04 09:58:16 <HotDP> But as i said. it was just prejudice
Jun 04 10:00:41 <LoneStar99> HotDP:  the thing is 99% of the world busts their ass to get somewhere, and the 1% make decisions that affect 99% of us, and they live in the lap of luxury.
Jun 04 10:03:19 <LoneStar99> back in the day the rich would give food to the poor, now the poor are feeding the rich
Jun 04 10:11:18 <LoneStar99> anyways, need to get some sleep need to roll out an update on an app at one point this week.
Jun 04 10:11:26 <swisstomcat> sleep well
Jun 04 10:11:50 <LoneStar99> thanks swisstomcat
Jun 04 10:12:20 <LoneStar99> auf weidersen!
Jun 04 10:13:10 <swisstomcat> gute nacht
Jun 04 13:16:47 <HattCzech_work> morning
Jun 04 13:17:34 <swisstomcat> morning
Jun 04 13:17:47 <swisstomcat> how can i adjust the position of an image inside a header?
Jun 04 13:17:50 <HotDP> Good morning HattCzech_work
Jun 04 13:18:11 <HattCzech_work> icon or image?
Jun 04 13:18:12 <HotDP> Margin?
Jun 04 13:18:17 <HattCzech_work> either way, i'd think using the css
Jun 04 13:18:30 <swisstomcat> i have a header with an image and text
Jun 04 13:18:46 * swisstomcat is working on a tuts-app
Jun 04 13:20:18 <HattCzech_work> play with the margin of the css
Jun 04 13:20:30 <HattCzech_work> yay! my app is featured!
Jun 04 13:20:48 * HattCzech_work hopes to break into the top 221 this weekend
Jun 04 13:21:31 <swisstomcat> yeah, i saw that today ... it probably replaced moo :)
Jun 04 13:21:40 <HotDP> hehe
Jun 04 13:22:42 <HotDP> Good weekend everyone!
Jun 04 13:23:38 <HattCzech_work> well, you're already in the top 221, now it's my turn ;)
Jun 04 13:23:46 <swisstomcat> yup, i'm up at #90
Jun 04 13:25:43 <HattCzech_work> awesome
Jun 04 14:48:08 <haeffb_pre> happy EVO day, everyone
Jun 04 14:48:49 <swisstomcat> hey haeffb
Jun 04 14:49:08 <swisstomcat> have you ever placed buttons inside a list or is this a bad idea?
Jun 04 14:49:36 <haeffb_pre> haven't done it, but don't know why you couldn't
Jun 04 14:49:50 <swisstomcat> i wonder if it's a bad idea UI wise
Jun 04 14:49:57 <haeffb_pre> i've use checkboxes, drawers
Jun 04 14:50:10 <Megatherium> It doesn't sound good... why would you like a button inside a list, anyhow?
Jun 04 14:50:10 <haeffb_pre> b
Jun 04 14:50:19 <swisstomcat> yeah, i'm torn
Jun 04 14:50:42 <swisstomcat> it's a list with stuff in it .. with the buttons you can choose latest or categories
Jun 04 14:50:45 <swisstomcat> for each item
Jun 04 14:51:03 <swisstomcat> i have to come up with something better i think
Jun 04 14:53:02 <haeffb_pre> icon w/ popupSubMenu ?
Jun 04 14:53:15 <swisstomcat> hmm
Jun 04 14:53:32 <swisstomcat> yeah, i already have an icon for each item
Jun 04 14:59:01 <Tibfib> today would be a great day for palm to 'leak' the next device :)
Jun 04 14:59:29 <swisstomcat> hi tibfib
Jun 04 14:59:35 <swisstomcat> yeah, i agree
Jun 04 14:59:43 <Tibfib> howdy swisstomcat
Jun 04 15:00:32 <Tibfib> evo and iPad are making me want a new gadget...
Jun 04 15:00:55 <swisstomcat> patience
Jun 04 15:01:01 <swisstomcat> agains gadget lust
Jun 04 15:01:17 <Tibfib> I think my wallet is keeping me in check so don't worry too much
Jun 04 15:04:34 <swisstomcat> cool, i think the popupsubmenu is going to work well
Jun 04 15:04:42 <swisstomcat> thanks  haeffb
Jun 04 15:36:08 <swisstomcat> animal memory 1.1.1 is out: http://developer.palm.com/appredirect/?packageid=com.inorbit.animalmemory
Jun 04 15:42:17 <Tibfib> any of you want to get into the mojo messenger beta?
Jun 04 15:42:56 <Tibfib> send me a pm or an email if you do (tibfib1[at]gmail[dot]com
Jun 04 15:43:53 <HattCzech_work> Tibfib: what is the mojo messenger?
Jun 04 15:47:36 <Tibfib> http://forums.precentral.net/web-os-development/232707-mojo-messenger-bbm-style-application-webos.html
Jun 04 15:48:08 <swisstomcat> it's chuqui, hide the puppies
Jun 04 15:51:44 <PuffTheMagic> i need the help of some JS experts
Jun 04 15:52:37 <PuffTheMagic> servers.servers[id].lagHistory.forEach(function(x) {lagSum += x;});
Jun 04 15:52:41 <PuffTheMagic> that used to work for me
Jun 04 15:52:49 <PuffTheMagic> to average the 5 numbers in lagHistory
Jun 04 15:52:58 <PuffTheMagic> it does not seem to work any more
Jun 04 15:53:04 <PuffTheMagic> no idea why
Jun 04 15:53:23 <PuffTheMagic> var aveLag = lagSum / servers.servers[id].lagHistory.length;
Jun 04 15:53:27 <PuffTheMagic> sorry that is the rest of it
Jun 04 16:09:54 <halfhalo_class> them be evil peoples!
Jun 04 16:10:57 <swisstomcat> oh no, a slave bot
Jun 04 16:11:03 <halfhalo_class> I know, right?
Jun 04 16:11:23 <halfhalo_class> To bad he's mute in this channel
Jun 04 16:31:45 <pandora--> wasn't someone talking about thre being an os update soon?
Jun 04 16:31:57 <pandora--> halfhalo: stop playing with your node
Jun 04 16:32:14 <halfhalo_class> it went byebye
Jun 04 16:32:33 <halfhalo_class> and only reason its in public channels is because I can't get the join and part emitters down
Jun 04 16:38:48 <pandora--> jeez the Evo is HUUGE
Jun 04 16:43:56 <pandora--> nodejs-irc: do a dance
Jun 04 16:44:17 <halfhalo_class> he can't talk in webos
Jun 04 16:44:25 <pandora--> heh
Jun 04 16:44:32 <halfhalo_class> And.... got what I needed
Jun 04 17:04:05 <hh-slavebot> Hello Everyone!
Jun 04 17:07:24 <Nyceane> is DanR here?
Jun 04 17:10:55 <Tibfib> gosh I hate css
Jun 04 17:11:04 <halfhalo_class> lies
Jun 04 17:11:25 <LoneStar99> good afternoon everyone
Jun 04 17:11:30 <halfhalo_class> hola
Jun 04 17:12:52 <haeffb_pre> who here has git working and can make a change to wirc?
Jun 04 17:13:05 <halfhalo_class> why....
Jun 04 17:13:09 <halfhalo_class> what did you do.....
Jun 04 17:37:14 <dawm> got my new LCD today ;D
Jun 04 17:37:28 <dawm> 21.5" 1080p
Jun 04 17:37:30 <dawm> and its an HP :P
Jun 04 17:37:36 <halfhalo_class> bleh
Jun 04 17:37:43 <halfhalo_class> 1080p is for wimps
Jun 04 17:37:53 <dawm> my dell lcd has been flaky forever, couldnt take it anymore
Jun 04 17:38:08 <dawm> now ive got a 21" dell and a 21.5" hp
Jun 04 17:38:48 * oilsworkn has 28" in the middle of two 19"s :)
Jun 04 17:39:28 * halfhalo_class has a 24" 2048x1152 in between two 19" 1680x1050's
Jun 04 17:39:41 <halfhalo_class> I really need a stand though
Jun 04 17:39:52 <halfhalo_class> one keeps falling off my desk
Jun 04 17:40:13 * oilsworkn uses the vesa mounts on the 19's to suspend his speakers :)
Jun 04 17:40:18 <halfhalo_class> nice
Jun 04 17:40:26 <halfhalo_class> I really hate the irc protocol stuff right now
Jun 04 17:40:29 <dawm> honestly i might pick up another one of these HP's and throw my dell on craigslist cause this display is stellar
Jun 04 17:41:37 <halfhalo_class> oh... oh god
Jun 04 17:41:43 <halfhalo_class> I got it to work
Jun 04 17:43:59 <halfhalo_class> And... back to needing regex help
Jun 04 17:44:26 <oilsworkn> oh regex, oh how awesome you are
Jun 04 17:44:47 <halfhalo_class> Trying to parse the pure irc stuff properly
Jun 04 17:45:04 <swisstomcat> rehi
Jun 04 17:45:45 <halfhalo_class> right now I'm failing to make one that splits a string (IE /nick newnick or /msg #channel blahblah ) properly
Jun 04 17:46:00 * oilsworkn points to wirc source
Jun 04 17:46:08 <halfhalo_class> bleh
Jun 04 17:46:37 <oilsworkn> :)
Jun 04 17:46:55 <halfhalo_class> I no like c/c#/c++
Jun 04 17:47:02 <halfhalo_class> hence why this is in javascript
Jun 04 17:47:45 <oilsworkn> the app parses those parts
Jun 04 17:48:00 <oilsworkn> (notice how i said wirc and not wircd :)
Jun 04 17:49:04 <halfhalo_class> I found src/libircclient/src/libircclient.c which is going to help for the incoming datas
Jun 04 17:51:40 <halfhalo_class> Gah.  To confusing.  Head Hurts.  So many /()/'s
Jun 04 17:55:06 <oilsworkn> yeah, that part doesn't parse commands
Jun 04 17:55:19 <oilsworkn> app/models/channel.js newcommand()? or something like that
Jun 04 17:55:25 <oilsworkn> is where the commands are parsed before being sent
Jun 04 17:56:47 <halfhalo_class> closer.... its the function but not the actual regex strings
Jun 04 17:57:07 <halfhalo_class> buutttt
Jun 04 17:57:08 <haeffb_pre> halfhalo: while you play with wirc source, fix this timestamp bug
Jun 04 17:57:20 <halfhalo_class> regularExpressions.js seems likely
Jun 04 17:57:35 <halfhalo_class> im not playing with the source, but using it as a basis for a js only client
Jun 04 17:57:57 <haeffb_pre> excuses
Jun 04 17:58:04 <halfhalo_class> what, it worked
Jun 04 17:58:10 <haeffb_pre> fix it anyhow
Jun 04 17:58:11 <halfhalo_class> just look at the spamming bot that was here
Jun 04 17:58:43 * oilsworkn doesn't even remember fix, some sort of mojo date function thing
Jun 04 18:01:26 <haeffb_pre> Mojo.Format.formatDate(myVar, {time: 'short'})
Jun 04 18:01:40 <haeffb_pre> or something close to that
Jun 04 18:04:11 <HattCzech_work> be back in a bit
Jun 04 18:13:07 <pandora--> damn is it saturday yet?
Jun 04 18:13:11 <dunivan> hey fellow dev's
Jun 04 18:13:22 <pandora--> dunivan: yo :)
Jun 04 18:13:30 <pandora--> dunivan: asl?
Jun 04 18:13:31 <dunivan> or if your like me try-to-be devs ha ha
Jun 04 18:13:33 <pandora--> :P
Jun 04 18:14:12 <pandora--> dunivan: have you published any apps yet?
Jun 04 18:15:28 <dunivan> nope, im working on a few for my firm, but i dont think it will be something for the app catalog
Jun 04 18:15:46 <dunivan> i am working on a html editing/ftp prog, but its slow going as I am learning alot doing it
Jun 04 18:16:10 <pandora--> hrm
Jun 04 18:18:58 <halfhalo_class> hmmm
Jun 04 18:19:05 <halfhalo_class> the regex works... partly
Jun 04 18:19:18 <oilsworkn> lol
Jun 04 18:19:26 * oilsworkn doesn't think wirc is doing it the best way
Jun 04 18:19:31 <oilsworkn> there is probably something better
Jun 04 18:19:37 <halfhalo_class> it works if the command is alone, but not if theres a second value
Jun 04 18:20:08 <halfhalo_class> ie /connect works but not /join blahblah
Jun 04 18:21:10 <oilsworkn> there is multiple regexs
Jun 04 18:21:35 <halfhalo_class> I know's
Jun 04 18:21:44 <halfhalo_class> havent gotten that far yet
Jun 04 18:22:18 <swisstomcat> The scientific methods used have been chosen based on convience sampling for results that match our preconceived prejudices.
Jun 04 18:22:24 <swisstomcat> We'll also present shameless results from tests which have been carefully selected to give the results that the PR department has demanded.
Jun 04 18:22:35 <swisstomcat> Quotes from: http://www.freeciv.net/yet-another-html5-browser-test/
Jun 04 18:22:58 * halfhalo_class attempts to read the regex....
Jun 04 18:23:45 <halfhalo_class> Sooo.... its matching /anythingthatsnotaspace followed by... I have no idea
Jun 04 18:26:03 <oilsworkn> lol
Jun 04 18:26:48 <halfhalo_class> ok
Jun 04 18:27:12 <halfhalo_class> so it matches the leading slash, the next x characters, the next x spaces, and then the rest of the characters
Jun 04 18:28:26 <oilsworkn> yeah
Jun 04 18:28:34 <oilsworkn> like /msg nick message
Jun 04 18:28:39 <halfhalo_class> yup
Jun 04 18:28:46 <halfhalo_class> BUT for some reason its not working for me
Jun 04 18:28:54 <oilsworkn> sux
Jun 04 18:29:18 <halfhalo_class> yup
Jun 04 18:29:30 <halfhalo_class> but I don't understand why its not....
Jun 04 18:34:22 <halfhalo_class> beginning to think it has something to do with node.js
Jun 04 18:35:35 <dunivan> can the amount of apps loaded on your pre slow it down?
Jun 04 18:36:10 <swisstomcat> i don't think so
Jun 04 18:39:49 <halfhalo_class> ok, got it to work
Jun 04 18:50:58 <Nyceane> man swisstomcat
Jun 04 18:51:07 <Nyceane> i had to email webosroundup to explain my situation...
Jun 04 18:51:08 <Nyceane> lol
Jun 04 18:51:29 <Nyceane> apologize to bunch of poeople, hopefully that will cool down now
Jun 04 18:52:07 <Megatherium> What happened?
Jun 04 18:52:22 <Nyceane> made some stupid comment during dinner and got published by WIRED
Jun 04 18:58:30 <swisstomcat> has wired reacted?
Jun 04 18:59:50 <CTLAdvance> Hello
Jun 04 19:01:23 <HattCzech_work> swisstomcat: what did i miss? wired reacting to...?
Jun 04 19:01:37 <Nyceane> about the stupid comment I made
Jun 04 19:01:39 <swisstomcat> react to nyceane
Jun 04 19:01:44 <swisstomcat> i hope they would
Jun 04 19:01:45 <dunivan> what was the comment
Jun 04 19:01:57 <swisstomcat> hello ctladvance
Jun 04 19:02:03 <CTLAdvance> howdy
Jun 04 19:03:07 <Nyceane> dunivan, its something stupid i said over dinner
Jun 04 19:03:56 <swisstomcat> which was put up in front of an otherwise decent article about webos development
Jun 04 19:05:32 <HattCzech_work> the opening quote?
Jun 04 19:05:40 <halfhalo_pre> hello everyone
Jun 04 19:05:53 <Nyceane> HattCzech_work, yup
Jun 04 19:06:18 <halfhalo_pre> I may/may not have written a frontend for my js irc stuff
Jun 04 19:06:21 <Nyceane> I've made an program that got me grand prize for the challange, i was interviewed by techcruch, mashable, along with other medias
Jun 04 19:06:27 <Nyceane> none of that was published except this
Jun 04 19:06:45 <HattCzech_work> yay for waiting for you to get comfortable and get caught saying something that doesn't represent what you meant
Jun 04 19:07:04 <Nyceane> yah =-|
Jun 04 19:07:09 <HattCzech_work> that sucks
Jun 04 19:07:12 <Nyceane> anywayz, wana try out my award winning app?
Jun 04 19:07:16 <swisstomcat> too bad it makes you look bad and not wired
Jun 04 19:07:18 <Nyceane> I've ported to the webos
Jun 04 19:07:22 <HattCzech_work> you're getting grand prize?
Jun 04 19:07:36 <HattCzech_work> care to share the wealth?
Jun 04 19:07:36 <Nyceane> swisstomcat, i know, webosroundup made a post about it and now i had to apologize to them
Jun 04 19:07:41 <Nyceane> Pickup Sports
Jun 04 19:07:42 * HattCzech_work holds out cupped hands
Jun 04 19:07:54 <Nyceane> its only in United States tho
Jun 04 19:08:07 <Nyceane> I wasn't able to include locations for other countries for now
Jun 04 19:08:17 <Nyceane> because its database driven
Jun 04 19:08:22 <halfhalo_pre> ehehehehe
Jun 04 19:08:31 <halfhalo_pre> this is cool
Jun 04 19:08:45 <HattCzech_work> that's a pretty cool idea
Jun 04 19:09:06 <HattCzech_work> just got published today?
Jun 04 19:09:09 <Nyceane> yah
Jun 04 19:09:32 <swisstomcat> pickup sports?
Jun 04 19:10:03 <Nyceane> swisstomcat, yah, i dont know if its in europe yet, i only released for united states
Jun 04 19:10:11 <swisstomcat> what is it?
Jun 04 19:10:17 <Nyceane> finding local activities
Jun 04 19:10:26 <Nyceane> like basketball, tennis
Jun 04 19:10:31 <Nyceane> its database driven
Jun 04 19:10:32 <swisstomcat> oh
Jun 04 19:10:42 <swisstomcat> who feeds the database?
Jun 04 19:10:54 <Nyceane> the user when they create a game
Jun 04 19:11:00 <Nyceane> and user when they join the game
Jun 04 19:11:11 <warpdesign_> hi
Jun 04 19:11:14 <CTLAdvance> Is anyone here using phonegap?
Jun 04 19:11:37 <swisstomcat> not yet
Jun 04 19:11:38 <swisstomcat> hi warpdesign
Jun 04 19:11:54 <Nyceane> no, i've read about it
Jun 04 19:16:34 <pandora--> CTLAdvance: no, but i'm pretty curious about it
Jun 04 19:16:44 <CTLAdvance> yeah
Jun 04 19:17:09 <CTLAdvance> I guess you can even write html 5 apps for every platform
Jun 04 19:18:01 <Tibfib> CTLAdvance: I'm going to eventually :)
Jun 04 19:22:55 <LoneStar99> hello everyone
Jun 04 19:23:12 <LoneStar99> swisstomcat: our apps are not featured anymore =(
Jun 04 19:23:13 <swisstomcat> hey lonestar .. slept well?
Jun 04 19:23:22 <swisstomcat> yeah, so i found out today
Jun 04 19:23:34 <swisstomcat> but i got over 12k downloads out of it
Jun 04 19:23:36 <LoneStar99> good sleep
Jun 04 19:23:38 <halfhalo_class> lies
Jun 04 19:23:54 * swisstomcat slaps nodejs-guest with a giant trout
Jun 04 19:23:58 <halfhalo_class> lol
Jun 04 19:23:59 <LoneStar99> making a video for the updated app will upload today
Jun 04 19:24:09 <halfhalo_class> hmmm, I brokked it again
Jun 04 19:24:58 <swisstomcat> hallo noaXess
Jun 04 19:25:44 <halfhalo_class> awwww
Jun 04 19:25:48 <LoneStar99> swisstomcat: 12k downloads that is great
Jun 04 19:26:01 <halfhalo_class> I broke my parsing again
Jun 04 19:26:21 <swisstomcat> yeah, i shot up to #90 in the hotapps
Jun 04 19:26:27 <swisstomcat> it
Jun 04 19:27:27 * HattCzech_work hopes he can follow swisstomcat's trend
Jun 04 19:27:31 <HattCzech_work> maybe get to 91 ;)
Jun 04 19:27:37 <swisstomcat> yeah
Jun 04 19:27:48 <swisstomcat> you're featured already
Jun 04 19:27:55 <HattCzech_work> yeah, i'm hoping that will help
Jun 04 19:28:16 <HattCzech_work> but to get 12k downloads would double what i have now... and put me in the top 221 :)
Jun 04 19:28:32 <halfhalo_class> and...
Jun 04 19:28:36 <halfhalo_class> It works!
Jun 04 19:30:50 <halfhalo_pre> harblgarble
Jun 04 19:31:04 <swisstomcat> i'm at 46k unique downloads
Jun 04 19:31:08 <swisstomcat> well, moo is
Jun 04 19:31:47 * haeffb_pre has DL'd swisstomcat 41 times himself
Jun 04 19:31:51 <halfhalo_pre> How am I going to solve this issue.......
Jun 04 19:31:59 <swisstomcat> heh
Jun 04 19:32:19 <pandora--> swisstomcat: daaamn
Jun 04 19:32:31 <pandora--> my top app is only at about 1000 downloads
Jun 04 19:32:48 <swisstomcat> free or paid?
Jun 04 19:33:02 <pandora--> paid
Jun 04 19:41:54 <swisstomcat> ah, mine is free
Jun 04 19:42:01 <swisstomcat> that might make the large difference
Jun 04 19:42:10 <swisstomcat> my paid app is under 100 downloads :(
Jun 04 19:42:23 <Megatherium> Which app is it, swisstomcat?
Jun 04 19:42:31 <swisstomcat> the free one?
Jun 04 19:42:42 <swisstomcat> Moo
Jun 04 19:43:02 <swisstomcat> http://developer.palm.com/appredirect/?packageid=com.inorbit.moo
Jun 04 19:43:06 <Megatherium> Either. I might as well take a look and see if either one's something I might be interested in.
Jun 04 19:43:25 <swisstomcat> it's for kids
Jun 04 19:43:29 <swisstomcat> i think
Jun 04 19:43:36 <swisstomcat> http://developer.palm.com/appredirect/?packageid=com.inorbit.animalmemory
Jun 04 19:53:36 <halfhalo_class> crickets
Jun 04 19:57:35 <swisstomcat> anyone want to test my new tuts-app (alpha)
Jun 04 20:00:35 <LoneStar99> swisstomcat: emulator or device?
Jun 04 20:00:42 <swisstomcat> either
Jun 04 20:00:52 <swisstomcat> i've only tested it on the emulator so far
Jun 04 20:00:55 <LoneStar99> email it to diegoATearthoid.com
Jun 04 20:01:04 <LoneStar99> can test it in about 30 minutes
Jun 04 20:01:04 <swisstomcat> k
Jun 04 20:02:11 <swisstomcat> sent
Jun 04 20:04:34 <sk4jc> So I was trying to update my app this week and update the price only. Any idea why its taking 4 days?
Jun 04 20:04:47 <LoneStar99> ok will test it out in about 30
Jun 04 20:07:54 <swisstomcat> sk4jc: yeah, it's strange .. had the same happening .. i'd write to pdc@palm.com and ask what's going on
Jun 04 20:14:30 <sk4jc> Thanks, ill try that
Jun 04 20:16:03 <HattCzech_work> they take longer than expected on the simple stuff :)
Jun 04 20:16:31 <swisstomcat> it took 2 days to do an app description update
Jun 04 20:16:42 <HattCzech_work> content update (just data in the palm catalog description)... 4 days... new version... 2 days... odd
Jun 04 20:18:03 <sk4jc> yeah should just update the version number to get a quicker response?
Jun 04 20:26:46 <warpdesign_> is there anyone speaking spanish ?
Jun 04 20:27:49 <dpivs> hi everyone
Jun 04 20:28:35 <swisstomcat> hi
Jun 04 20:28:42 <swisstomcat> i think lonestar99 is, warpdesign
Jun 04 20:30:50 <LoneStar99> yeah eating nachos and watching mexican soap operas here
Jun 04 20:31:27 <HattCzech_work> hahah
Jun 04 20:31:31 <LoneStar99> warpdesign_: spanish speaker here
Jun 04 20:31:48 <warpdesign_> LoneStar99: great
Jun 04 20:31:58 <warpdesign_> LoneStar99: would you mind doing some spanish translation for me ?
Jun 04 20:33:13 <LoneStar99> no problem if you want pastebin the text
Jun 04 20:33:35 <sk4jc> Turns out they are FIFO so they must be just getting more submissions.
Jun 04 20:34:13 <warpdesign_> LoneStar99: there are quite some files
Jun 04 20:34:21 <warpdesign_> would you mind if I could send it to you instead ?
Jun 04 20:37:18 <LoneStar99> diegoATearthoid.com
Jun 04 20:43:46 <LoneStar99> swisstomcat: gonna test your app now
Jun 04 20:43:51 <swisstomcat> great
Jun 04 20:43:57 <swisstomcat> hey lemketron
Jun 04 20:47:09 <warpdesign_> LoneStar99: ok, thanks
Jun 04 20:47:38 <LoneStar99> swisstomcat: gonna skip emulotor testing and testing on palm pre now
Jun 04 20:47:49 <swisstomcat> first test :)
Jun 04 20:51:40 <warpdesign_> LoneStar99: are you familiar with translation ?
Jun 04 21:00:50 <haeffb> swisstomcat: what's the app?
Jun 04 21:01:08 <swisstomcat> haeffb: a tuts-app .. want to alpha-test too?
Jun 04 21:01:29 <haeffb> whats a tuts-app? Sure.
Jun 04 21:05:40 <warpdesign_> LoneStar99: sent
Jun 04 21:06:19 <halfhalo_pre> Evil Laugh
Jun 04 21:07:07 <halfhalo_pre> ITS ALIVE!!!!!!
Jun 04 21:07:29 <halfhalo_js> hehehe
Jun 04 21:07:58 <swisstomcat> haeffb: an interface to tuts ... e.g nettuts,psdtuts,etc.
Jun 04 21:08:14 <swisstomcat> how long before it becomes self-aware and tries to take over the world, halfhalo?
Jun 04 21:08:14 <haeffb> hmmmm....
Jun 04 21:08:29 <halfhalo_js> In Three.. two... one...
Jun 04 21:08:43 * swisstomcat hides under a rock
Jun 04 21:08:55 <swisstomcat> http://net.tutsplus.com/
Jun 04 21:09:11 <swisstomcat> as an example
Jun 04 21:09:35 <LoneStar99> swisstomcat: tested did not find any issues
Jun 04 21:09:39 <LoneStar99> works well
Jun 04 21:10:06 <swisstomcat> popup doesn't bother?
Jun 04 21:10:19 <LoneStar99> neah, popup is small
Jun 04 21:10:23 <haeffb> send it me
Jun 04 21:10:28 <swisstomcat> will do
Jun 04 21:10:28 <LoneStar99> i actaully like it
Jun 04 21:10:37 <swisstomcat> it's an early alpha
Jun 04 21:10:57 <LoneStar99> warpdesign_: how soon do you need the translations?
Jun 04 21:12:06 <swisstomcat> haeffb: sent
Jun 04 21:13:07 <warpdesign_> LoneStar99: the sooner the better. I'm planning to have a release by the end of the week end. But no pressure if you can't do it this early.
Jun 04 21:17:42 <LoneStar99> warpdesign_: the left column is in english, and right is the french translation right? so I replace the french with spanish?
Jun 04 21:17:54 <warpdesign_> yes, exactly
Jun 04 21:18:16 <LoneStar99> ok seems pretty simple let me get it done now,
Jun 04 21:18:48 <warpdesign_> hmm.. I should have sent you the english resources instead of the french one, cause you won't see the english ones in these files
Jun 04 21:21:18 <lemketron> hey swisstomcat...  (is there something shorter we can call you, btw?  swiss?  tom?  cat?)  ;-)
Jun 04 21:21:29 <swisstomcat> heh
Jun 04 21:21:36 <swisstomcat> tomcat is fine too
Jun 04 21:21:38 <LoneStar99> swisscheese?
Jun 04 21:22:02 <swisstomcat> or stc as the ultimate shortname
Jun 04 21:22:37 <haeffb> s
Jun 04 21:22:54 <haeffb> sw tab
Jun 04 21:22:57 <warpdesign_> LoneStar99: thanks ! I sent you a new file with english html files instead. strings.json hasn't changed though
Jun 04 21:22:57 <haeffb> swisstomcat
Jun 04 21:24:10 * swisstomcat is trying to convert an app that uses touchstart/touchend/touchmove to mouse* events
Jun 04 21:26:09 <LoneStar99> warpdesign_: ok
Jun 04 21:29:49 <halfhalo_pre> Wahahahahaha
Jun 04 21:30:01 <halfhalo_pre> It has colors now
Jun 04 21:30:42 <halfhalo_pre> Very Purty colors as well
Jun 04 21:38:26 <LoneStar99> warpdesign_:  abstract as in "abstract" art?
Jun 04 21:38:44 <warpdesign_> abstract as in abstrack background art, yes
Jun 04 21:38:57 <LoneStar99> k
Jun 04 21:44:46 <swisstomcat> i'm off, good night
Jun 04 21:47:22 <LoneStar99> gn swisstomcat
Jun 04 21:49:27 <Nyceane> he left =_=
Jun 04 21:57:41 <LoneStar99> National Doughnut day
Jun 04 21:57:44 <LoneStar99> today
Jun 04 21:57:51 <warpdesign_> he he nice
Jun 04 21:57:58 <warpdesign_> where are you from ?
Jun 04 21:59:33 * halfhalo_class sad
Jun 04 22:01:29 <LoneStar99> États-Unis - Texas
Jun 04 22:07:43 <warpdesign_> ok
Jun 04 22:08:02 <warpdesign_> nice day, we don't have such things here in france
Jun 04 22:08:11 <warpdesign_> anyway, it's time for me to get some sleep
Jun 04 22:08:30 <warpdesign_> LoneStar99: let me know by email when you're done with the translation.. no pressure, take your time :)
Jun 04 22:08:31 <warpdesign_> gn
Jun 04 22:09:16 <LoneStar99> warpdesign_: ok working on it now, but trying to get the most appropriate translation
Jun 04 22:09:25 <warpdesign_> ok, good then
Jun 04 22:09:28 <LoneStar99> will email you foresure
Jun 04 22:09:30 <LoneStar99> gn
Jun 04 22:09:35 <warpdesign_> don't hesitate to try the app to have a better understanding
Jun 04 22:09:37 <warpdesign_> ok
Jun 04 22:09:43 <LoneStar99> ok thanks
Jun 04 22:11:26 <haeffb> LoneStar99: wanna do another?
Jun 04 22:37:32 <LoneStar99> haeffb: sure
Jun 04 22:38:14 <haeffb> Ok, will send you some stuff...
Jun 04 22:38:21 <LoneStar99> haeffb: ok
Jun 04 22:44:43 <haeffb> bombs away
Jun 04 22:47:02 <LoneStar99> haeffb: got da email, will take a look in about an hour, it is time to play Wii
Jun 04 22:47:12 <haeffb> wiiiiii!!!!
Jun 04 22:47:52 <LoneStar99> ok chat in awhile
Jun 04 23:11:10 <Nyceane> promoting good apps is just so much harder than promoting crappy apps lol
Jun 04 23:11:25 <Nyceane> i only have 400 downloads so far, my crappy apps gets at least 2000 downloads on the first day
Jun 04 23:12:42 <HattCzech_work> which ones are your crappy apps?
Jun 04 23:16:10 <Nyceane> fantasy chat
Jun 04 23:16:14 <Nyceane> vindows wista
Jun 04 23:16:16 <Nyceane> audio blaster
Jun 04 23:16:21 <Nyceane> playboy covers
Jun 04 23:16:25 <Nyceane> bunch of other ones
Jun 04 23:16:27 <HattCzech_work> hahaha, yeah, those
Jun 04 23:16:45 <Nyceane> lol, and when i make a good app, adoption becomes very slow =)
Jun 04 23:16:52 <Nyceane> those literally take no effort
Jun 04 23:16:58 <HattCzech_work> seems to be the way things work :/
Jun 04 23:17:14 <Nyceane> I know, the bad ones receives publicity too
Jun 04 23:17:33 <HattCzech_work> so you have an LLC?
Jun 04 23:20:37 <HattCzech_work> question for all: worth it to get an LLC? and how much does it actually cost?
Jun 04 23:23:09 <Nyceane> cost $70
Jun 04 23:23:32 <Nyceane> yearly tax is $800, but you get to write off pretty much just about anything, its a corporation
Jun 04 23:24:53 <haeffb> HattCzech_work: in US? Which state?
Jun 04 23:25:01 <HattCzech_work> texas
Jun 04 23:25:10 <HattCzech_work> looked like $300 when i was checking into it
Jun 04 23:25:51 <HattCzech_work> ohh, $150 + state fees
Jun 04 23:26:46 <haeffb> in MO, it cost me ... under $100 ... ?
Jun 04 23:27:04 <pandora--> california LLC is some bullshit.
Jun 04 23:27:19 <pandora--> i moved it to a delaware s-corp
Jun 04 23:27:38 <pandora--> in california, after filing fees, it's $800/year for LLC
Jun 04 23:28:28 <pandora--> HattCzech_work: yeah, definitely worth getting an LLC
Jun 04 23:28:33 <pandora--> just not in CA
Jun 04 23:28:50 <pandora--> i'm setting up a new one this week (non-california LLC)
Jun 04 23:31:25 <Nyceane> pandora--, have you tried my new app?
Jun 04 23:31:42 <Nyceane> it took them 2 month to cash my check, i dont want to start another one
Jun 04 23:32:06 <Nyceane> pandora--, have you tried "pickup sport" yet?
Jun 04 23:32:22 <pandora--> nope
Jun 04 23:32:26 <pandora--> lemme search the store
Jun 04 23:32:59 <Nyceane> just got released today, its not getting as much downloads as my other crappy apps lol
Jun 04 23:33:22 <pandora--> interesting
Jun 04 23:33:29 <pandora--> downloading :)
Jun 04 23:33:35 <pandora--> i don't play sports
Jun 04 23:33:41 <pandora--> but I'll download it
Jun 04 23:33:57 <pandora--> it's a great idea though
Jun 04 23:34:41 <HattCzech_work> haeffb: what did you have to do to get one?
Jun 04 23:34:44 <pandora--> there's no games around me :(
Jun 04 23:34:52 <HattCzech_work> i setup a DBA, but that was only like $20
Jun 04 23:35:13 <Nyceane> =-(
Jun 04 23:35:16 <Nyceane> where do you live?
Jun 04 23:35:23 <pandora--> los angeles
Jun 04 23:35:33 <Nyceane> me too, there should be few games around u
Jun 04 23:35:38 <pandora--> well, playa del rey. but it's los angeles.
Jun 04 23:35:46 <pandora--> oh crap that's right, you're down the street from me huh?
Jun 04 23:36:07 <Nyceane> yah, and you've been stalking me for a year and half
Jun 04 23:36:22 <pandora--> if you just leave your blinds open, it's easier for the both of us.
Jun 04 23:36:23 <Nyceane> you should see 7 games, thats what i see heh
Jun 04 23:36:26 <haeffb> HattCzech_work: fill out an online form. give them CC info.
Jun 04 23:36:33 <haeffb> one-time fee.
Jun 04 23:36:40 <pandora--> haeffb: what state? texas?
Jun 04 23:36:43 <haeffb> MO
Jun 04 23:36:44 <Nyceane> i m giong for a run tomorrow =)
Jun 04 23:36:46 <pandora--> ah
Jun 04 23:36:53 <pandora--> i'm doing new mexico for my newest llc
Jun 04 23:36:55 <Nyceane> and i posted it there
Jun 04 23:37:04 <Nyceane> do you have an address in new mexico?
Jun 04 23:37:06 <pandora--> Nyceane: what radius is used?
Jun 04 23:37:09 <pandora--> Nyceane: no
Jun 04 23:37:16 <haeffb> Nyceane: the people I play with don't have smartphones...
Jun 04 23:37:18 <pandora--> Nyceane: Registered Agents take care of that
Jun 04 23:37:20 <HattCzech_work> yeah, texas
Jun 04 23:37:27 <Nyceane> hmm, put in zip code 90038
Jun 04 23:37:32 <pandora--> k
Jun 04 23:37:47 <pandora--> nothin
Jun 04 23:37:51 <Nyceane> wow...
Jun 04 23:38:02 <pandora--> app sucks. 0 stars.
Jun 04 23:38:03 <pandora--> :P
Jun 04 23:38:10 <pandora--> j/k j/k
Jun 04 23:38:37 <Nyceane> you really can't find games?
Jun 04 23:38:40 <Nyceane> =-|
Jun 04 23:38:47 <pandora--> nope
Jun 04 23:39:13 <Nyceane> not even if you put zip code 90038?
Jun 04 23:39:17 <pandora--> nope
Jun 04 23:40:00 <pandora--> trying to make a game
Jun 04 23:40:01 <Nyceane> wow, thanks for telling me this
Jun 04 23:40:13 <pandora--> it's just spinning on the "making a game" button
Jun 04 23:40:14 <HattCzech_work> haeffb: what site did you use?
Jun 04 23:40:51 <haeffb> MO Secretary of State website
Jun 04 23:40:56 <Nyceane> pandora--, trying to get your GPS
Jun 04 23:41:03 <Nyceane> thats create a game
Jun 04 23:41:13 <pandora--> taking a lonnnnnnnnnnnnnng time
Jun 04 23:41:18 <Nyceane> yah, thats palm's gps
Jun 04 23:41:24 <Nyceane> u dont have to use current location
Jun 04 23:41:44 <pandora--> what settings did you use for gps??
Jun 04 23:41:48 <Nyceane> 3 1
Jun 04 23:41:54 <pandora--> really?
Jun 04 23:41:56 <Nyceane> yah
Jun 04 23:42:03 <pandora--> something else is goin on then
Jun 04 23:42:10 <pandora--> i have to quit and restart
Jun 04 23:42:29 <pandora--> oh
Jun 04 23:42:36 <pandora--> after restarting now i see games
Jun 04 23:42:39 <HattCzech_work> i'll look into that more this weekend
Jun 04 23:42:42 <Nyceane> phew...
Jun 04 23:42:51 <Nyceane> i thought i was gona get really bad reviews =_=
Jun 04 23:43:02 <halfhalo_pre> lol
Jun 04 23:43:07 <halfhalo_pre> you still are
Jun 04 23:43:07 <pandora--> well, you might if everyone has the same problem on first launch like i did
Jun 04 23:43:24 <Nyceane> =-|
Jun 04 23:43:32 <Nyceane> i think its the GPS
Jun 04 23:43:42 <Nyceane> second time when you load it you have the GPS
Jun 04 23:43:48 <pandora--> i couldn't even see games typing in 90038 though
Jun 04 23:44:07 <Nyceane> search by zip?
Jun 04 23:44:13 <pandora--> works now
Jun 04 23:44:21 <pandora--> but first launch, search by zip did nothing
Jun 04 23:44:26 <pandora--> find by location did nothing
Jun 04 23:44:27 <Nyceane> phew... =_=
Jun 04 23:44:31 <pandora--> coudln't create a game
Jun 04 23:44:32 <pandora--> etc
Jun 04 23:44:35 * halfhalo_pre is reading up on ncurses now
Jun 04 23:44:35 <pandora--> nothing worked on launch
Jun 04 23:44:45 <Nyceane> yah.. thats a problem
Jun 04 23:44:51 <pandora--> halfhalo: hehe oh ncurses.  i wrote some cool stuff with that years back
Jun 04 23:45:13 <pandora--> Nyceane: cool app though, if I did sports like these it'd be cool
Jun 04 23:45:24 <pandora--> i'd use it
Jun 04 23:45:46 <HattCzech_work> adios all
Jun 04 23:45:49 <HattCzech_work> have a good weekend
Jun 04 23:45:50 <pandora--> laters
Jun 04 23:46:02 <Nyceane> later HattCzech_work
Jun 04 23:46:23 <Nyceane> pandora--, thanks, i am just wondering whats causing the problem on first launch
Jun 04 23:46:51 <pandora--> dunno
Jun 04 23:46:58 <pandora--> i'll delete it and redownload
Jun 04 23:47:02 <pandora--> maybe a fluke
Jun 04 23:47:24 <Nyceane> are you the maker of pandora app?
Jun 04 23:47:27 <Nyceane> pandora radio?
Jun 04 23:48:46 <pandora--> nope
Jun 04 23:49:11 <pandora--> iHate411, iBored, Yalm, Clubber, TuneWiki Lyrics Search
Jun 04 23:49:25 <pandora--> Yalm is being reviewed
Jun 04 23:49:31 <pandora--> Clubber i pulled
Jun 04 23:49:35 <pandora--> the others are live
Jun 04 23:50:38 <pandora--> Nyceane: well, seems to work on 2nd install, 1st launch. but it remembered the user account i created, so it wasn't a 100% fresh reinstall I guess
Jun 04 23:51:57 <Nyceane> pandora--, thats server
Jun 04 23:52:09 <Nyceane> ooooooh
Jun 04 23:52:10 <Nyceane> shit
Jun 04 23:52:12 <Nyceane> asjfdpoas
Jun 04 23:52:18 <Nyceane> damnit =_=
Jun 04 23:52:22 <pandora--> hm?
Jun 04 23:52:50 <Nyceane> yah, there is a problem on launch
Jun 04 23:52:55 <Nyceane> let me fix it and submit it
Jun 04 23:52:58 <pandora--> lol
Jun 04 23:53:01 <pandora--> shitty
Jun 04 23:54:28 <Nyceane> hopefully people dont stop downloading this
Jun 04 23:54:33 <haeffb> yikes. Tornado headed this way...
Jun 04 23:55:41 <pandora--> haeffb: where?
Jun 04 23:55:55 <pandora--> i would take tornados over this california earthquake shit anyday
Jun 04 23:56:37 <haeffb> northeast of macon, mo
Jun 04 23:56:45 <amiroo> hi there
Jun 04 23:57:07 <amiroo> anyone an idea why web service is not working anymore. didn't change a thing
Jun 04 23:57:42 <amiroo> the onFailure method is called everytime. it used to work a few houres ago
Jun 04 23:58:37 <haeffb> http://www.sos.mo.gov/BusinessEntity/BusinessEntitiesOnline/help/mo/notice.aspx
Jun 05 00:00:03 <haeffb> http://www.weather.com/weather/map/interactive/63552
Jun 05 00:00:59 <amiroo> is it possible that something changed in the sdk?
Jun 05 00:02:03 <Nyceane> pandora--, fixed, gona wait till next release
Jun 05 00:02:29 <pandora--> hehe
Jun 05 00:02:37 <pandora--> bummer, but good you found it
Jun 05 00:03:57 <amiroo> no ideas?
Jun 05 00:04:13 <Nyceane> pandora--, do you have twitter?
Jun 05 00:04:52 <pandora--> yeah
Jun 05 00:05:18 <pandora--> http://twitter.com/pandora808
Jun 05 00:07:34 <Nyceane> just following u
Jun 05 00:08:00 <pandora--> who's the stalker now? huh?
Jun 05 00:09:21 <amiroo> anyone who uses successfully web service?
Jun 05 00:11:09 <pandora--> amiroo: yup
Jun 05 00:11:20 <pandora--> all my apps do
Jun 05 00:11:21 <amiroo> and right now it does work?
Jun 05 00:11:31 <pandora--> what webservice are you using?
Jun 05 00:12:04 <amiroo> I'm recieving an xml file
Jun 05 00:12:17 <amiroo> created by php
Jun 05 00:12:21 <amiroo> and the file is reachable
Jun 05 00:12:41 <pandora--> reboot your phone?
Jun 05 00:12:44 <amiroo> but the web service call fails for some reason. i did not change anything.
Jun 05 00:12:50 <amiroo> it's on the emulator too
Jun 05 00:13:34 <pandora--> weird
Jun 05 00:13:52 <pandora--> reboot emulator?
Jun 05 00:13:57 <pandora--> i've had to do that a few times
Jun 05 00:14:00 <pandora--> it just dies
Jun 05 00:14:08 <amiroo> yeah. realy
Jun 05 00:14:17 <amiroo> ok let me reboot it
Jun 05 00:15:21 <haeffb> tornado may have died out...
Jun 05 00:16:41 <amiroo> ha?
Jun 05 00:16:45 <amiroo> that's so strange
Jun 05 00:16:59 <amiroo> it works
Jun 05 00:17:12 <amiroo> both phone and emulator had to reboot
Jun 05 00:17:18 <amiroo> thank you
Jun 05 00:17:31 <amiroo> i wasted 3 houres on this
Jun 05 00:18:33 <amiroo> thank you so much. have a good night
Jun 05 00:22:05 <pandora--> hehehe
Jun 05 00:22:14 <pandora--> i just told him to reboot
Jun 05 00:22:18 <pandora--> i'm so damn good
Jun 05 00:22:41 <haeffb> pandora-- is awesome.
Jun 05 00:22:47 <pandora--> word.
Jun 05 00:22:55 <Nyceane> pandora--, i just released my patch
Jun 05 00:23:02 <Nyceane> duno how long its gona take
Jun 05 00:23:04 <Nyceane> =_=
Jun 05 00:23:27 <pandora--> with the weekend coming up, probably next week
Jun 05 00:23:36 <pandora--> usually it's 1-2 days
Jun 05 00:23:43 <pandora--> plus the weekend for you
Jun 05 00:23:46 <Nyceane> hopefully gets it in by tomorrow
Jun 05 00:23:51 <Nyceane> they release some stuff on saturdays
Jun 05 00:36:20 <haeffb> wow. golf-ball sized hail
Jun 05 00:42:44 <pandora--> damn
Jun 05 00:42:52 <pandora--> some crazy stuff going down at your place haeffb
Jun 05 00:43:03 <pandora--> it's just nice california beach weather here :)
Jun 05 00:44:43 <haeffb> got pics...
Jun 05 00:46:07 <haeffb> biggest hail I've ever seen personally
Jun 05 00:47:45 <haeffb> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=920365&id=1594447858
Jun 05 01:01:33 <haeffb> http://picasaweb.google.com/haeffb/20100604Hailstorm#5479087394820441938
Jun 05 01:24:24 <dirs> hi
Jun 05 01:24:39 <dirs> webview.saveViewToFile only acept /tmp/ file paths?
Jun 05 01:25:14 <dirs> and palm://com.palm.downloadmanager don't accept /tmp/ file paths ?
Jun 05 01:28:12 <dirs> please can someone help me on that?
Jun 05 01:59:53 <reality9110> I know we're all downloading the new version of RadioTime, right?
Jun 05 02:00:01 <halfhalo> bah
Jun 05 02:00:02 <halfhalo> no
Jun 05 02:00:07 <reality9110> Come on....
Jun 05 02:00:11 <halfhalo> playing with something similar to js services
Jun 05 02:00:17 <halfhalo> which are neato
Jun 05 02:00:32 <reality9110> Are they java services?  ;-)
Jun 05 02:00:36 <halfhalo> no
Jun 05 02:00:43 <halfhalo> but I mades an irc client with em
Jun 05 02:00:44 <halfhalo> in a day
Jun 05 02:00:46 <halfhalo> and a half
Jun 05 02:00:58 <halfhalo-jsirc> Wahahahaha
Jun 05 02:01:41 <reality9110> So is there some documents on the services?
Jun 05 02:01:53 <halfhalo> their supposed to be close to node.js
Jun 05 02:02:26 <reality9110> I don't have that anywhere in my sdk folder
Jun 05 02:02:37 <halfhalo> its a seperate thing
Jun 05 02:03:23 <reality9110> What I really need is a program that I can input ajax parameters and then see the response
Jun 05 02:03:56 <halfhalo> actually…. I think theres a modules for that
Jun 05 02:04:12 <reality9110> Outside of the emulator
Jun 05 02:04:17 <reality9110> As in a windows program
Jun 05 02:17:04 <Jake_M> so i'm trying to make RSS feeds work, but i don't get it. i'm on ares and theres an RSS feed service but then theres an RSS widget
Jun 05 02:17:21 <pandora--> Jake_M: got me. i haven't used ares
Jun 05 02:17:35 <Jake_M> i don't know how to like embed RSS through HTML
Jun 05 02:17:55 <Jake_M> i mean i'm trying to test a simple app but i don't know how to display RSS feeds.
Jun 05 02:18:54 <Jake_M> <div class="palm-row"> 	<div style="position: absolute; height: 73px; left: 10px; right: 12px; overflow: hidden; text-overflow: ellipsis; white-space: nowrap;"> 		<a style="font-size: 17px; color: #2d6c94; text-decoration: none;" href="#{link}">#{-title}</a> 		<div style="font-size: 14px;">#{-description}</div> 	</div> </div>
Jun 05 02:18:57 <Jake_M> thats what i have
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