**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jul 15 02:59:56 2010 Jul 15 03:00:59 I'm 16 Jul 15 03:01:31 still no 1.4.5 Jul 15 03:01:49 dekan: 1.4.5 is never coming Jul 15 03:01:49 Okay, Tibfib. Jul 15 03:02:21 dekan: 1.4.5 Jul 15 03:02:21 1.4.5 is never coming Jul 15 03:02:29 hah Jul 15 03:02:31 dekan: when is 1.4.5 coming? Jul 15 03:02:31 Okay, Anivrom. Jul 15 03:02:35 ... Jul 15 03:02:35 EmmettLollis: So you liked Pleaters, right? Jul 15 03:02:40 dekan: forget that Jul 15 03:02:40 UNCAUGHT EXCEPTION: TERMINATING Jul 15 03:02:50 lol! Jul 15 03:02:54 botsnack Jul 15 03:02:55 * dekan nom nom nom Jul 15 03:03:02 Pleaters? Jul 15 03:03:11 Sorry, I'm used to called it that Jul 15 03:03:13 Planet Eaters Jul 15 03:03:24 Pleaters is the project name of it Jul 15 03:03:27 yeah i liked playing it Jul 15 03:03:28 * Tibfib likes this bot Jul 15 03:03:45 it was ok for the first fwe levels but after that it gets repetitive :/ Jul 15 03:03:53 need more variety of objects Jul 15 03:03:58 1.4.5 is dead Jul 15 03:04:07 1.4.5 Jul 15 03:04:15 aww... bot won't automatically respond Jul 15 03:04:20 nope Jul 15 03:04:20 1.4.5? Jul 15 03:04:26 sometimes it does Jul 15 03:04:28 botsmack Jul 15 03:04:28 * dekan cowers Jul 15 03:04:33 hopefully by 12 AM EST -- 1.4.5 Jul 15 03:04:36 the key has to be more than 6 characters Jul 15 03:04:39 Guess its only programmed to listen on certian things Jul 15 03:04:44 for him to automatically respond without addressing him Jul 15 03:04:48 1.4.5.1? Jul 15 03:04:51 oh. interesting Jul 15 03:04:59 Anivrom: It's too intensd Jul 15 03:04:59 dekan: 1.4.5.1 is never coming Jul 15 03:05:00 Okay, Anivrom. Jul 15 03:05:03 dekan: 1.4.5? Jul 15 03:05:03 *intense Jul 15 03:05:03 1.4.5 is never coming Jul 15 03:05:06 1.4.5.1 Jul 15 03:05:06 1.4.5.1 is never coming Jul 15 03:05:09 dekan: v1.4.5 Jul 15 03:05:09 I cannot access that data. Jul 15 03:05:14 dekan: v1.4.5 is never coming Jul 15 03:05:14 Okay, Tibfib. Jul 15 03:05:17 1.4.5.1.2.3.11.6 Jul 15 03:05:19 dekan: 1.4.5.1 is coming when chuqui says so Jul 15 03:05:19 Okay, digitalpowers. Jul 15 03:05:19 v1.4.5? Jul 15 03:05:19 v1.4.5 is never coming Jul 15 03:05:26 /ignore dekan Jul 15 03:05:28 er Jul 15 03:05:33 oh u Jul 15 03:05:45 dekan: slap discombobulate Jul 15 03:05:46 UNCAUGHT EXCEPTION: TERMINATING Jul 15 03:05:51 is he bugging you discombobulate? Jul 15 03:05:53 ...botsmack Jul 15 03:05:54 Not hard to program, but hard to work with Jul 15 03:05:54 DENIED Jul 15 03:05:56 naw Jul 15 03:06:01 Yay Jul 15 03:06:05 botsmack Jul 15 03:06:05 * dekan cowers Jul 15 03:06:06 i was just messing around Jul 15 03:06:09 botsmack! Jul 15 03:06:09 * dekan cowers Jul 15 03:06:10 who's is it? Jul 15 03:06:10 Oh, Why am I torcyy? Jul 15 03:06:16 maik Jul 15 03:06:16 what can i say Jul 15 03:06:17 big fan club Jul 15 03:06:18 "Big Fan Club" would be a nice name for a band. Jul 15 03:06:23 botsnack Jul 15 03:06:23 * dekan nom nom nom Jul 15 03:06:27 Torchie's Big Fan Club Jul 15 03:06:41 I have more youtube subscribers :P Jul 15 03:06:52 i have more children, and they are like fans Jul 15 03:07:08 children are good for fetching beers for ya Jul 15 03:07:27 or cigars Jul 15 03:07:27 i dont drink but my kid will fetch a soda Jul 15 03:07:38 same difference Jul 15 03:08:25 digitalpowers: even I drink Jul 15 03:08:34 that can't be legal! Jul 15 03:08:52 kesne: i dont drink on choice not legality or requirement Jul 15 03:09:15 digitalpowers: Hah Jul 15 03:09:17 i dont drink because i'm broke Jul 15 03:09:19 I'm joking Jul 15 03:09:24 I'm pretty broke too Jul 15 03:09:34 Lucky for me my parents arent! :D Jul 15 03:09:34 The "Chupacabra" is back Jul 15 03:09:52 El Chupacabra? Jul 15 03:10:39 http://yahoo.com news Jul 15 03:11:59 kesne: I thought checkers2 was making you millions? Jul 15 03:12:09 Checkers 2 == free ;) Jul 15 03:12:14 advertising? Jul 15 03:12:16 Yea everyone is spending their 0 cents on it Jul 15 03:12:18 None Jul 15 03:12:30 kesne: I rest my case Jul 15 03:12:50 how are you affording webosroundup advertising? Jul 15 03:12:56 If you want though, for just $100 you can buy an ad Jul 15 03:13:06 Tibfib: Where do you think my money went? Jul 15 03:13:11 haha Jul 15 03:13:12 kesne: why not advertise, even though admob is sucky you would still make revenue Jul 15 03:13:32 Worse user experience Jul 15 03:13:45 Though seriously, just $100 for a months worth of ads Jul 15 03:14:10 nice kesne that isnt a bad deal Jul 15 03:14:13 Not too bad. Jul 15 03:14:23 Maybe alittle cheaper. Jul 15 03:14:29 Heh Jul 15 03:14:34 like 2 dollars or something. Jul 15 03:14:37 :P!!! Jul 15 03:14:38 Heh Jul 15 03:14:47 ..a year.. Jul 15 03:14:54 But really Jul 15 03:15:02 I can push out content easily Jul 15 03:15:47 uh oh Jul 15 03:15:58 my pre's been really weird about connecting to the net over 3G Jul 15 03:16:06 the EV symbol's there, but everywhere's like UNABLE TO RESOLVE HOST Jul 15 03:16:25 if I connect to the net over wifi, can I still get system updates? Jul 15 03:16:57 i haven't seen the ev symbol in weeks Jul 15 03:17:10 1x? Jul 15 03:17:15 or no symbol and you're still connecting Jul 15 03:17:18 cuz that can't be good for me Jul 15 03:17:26 no symbol still connecting Jul 15 03:17:40 bullshiiiiittt Jul 15 03:17:43 oh wait my wifi was on Jul 15 03:17:49 oh Jul 15 03:17:53 sorry Jul 15 03:21:25 great so my pre's probably shitting in my mouth Jul 15 03:22:02 ppretty graphic tbh Jul 15 03:23:15 ? Jul 15 03:23:31 caught the tail end of that conversation Jul 15 03:23:37 yikes Jul 15 03:23:42 hahaha Jul 15 03:24:25 the EV symbol is right there and I've got 4 bars Jul 15 03:24:29 i dont get this :( Jul 15 03:24:31 there's probably a consumer base for phones that could do that Jul 15 03:24:51 scatmobile? Jul 15 03:25:17 oneCupMobile Jul 15 03:25:22 lol Jul 15 03:25:23 lol Jul 15 03:25:27 nexus one cup Jul 15 03:25:30 better Jul 15 03:25:36 tubGirlMobile? Jul 15 03:25:52 wow Jul 15 03:26:04 isn't it funny how us dev's camelback all concatenated words. Jul 15 03:26:18 lol Jul 15 03:26:20 Just second nature Jul 15 03:26:23 Anybody want to make me a video Jul 15 03:26:36 yes, I found myself doing that on a syllabus Jul 15 03:27:08 courseOverview ftw Jul 15 03:27:36 kesne: given the context of the conversation... you do not want someone to make you a video. Jul 15 03:27:38 i promise Jul 15 03:27:48 Hah Jul 15 03:27:51 lol Jul 15 03:27:57 there would be indictments Jul 15 03:28:00 lawsuits Jul 15 03:28:14 total pandelerium Jul 15 03:28:22 yeah but it would get people to pay for the app Jul 15 03:28:35 great sales driver Jul 15 03:28:48 Bleh Jul 15 03:28:55 Anybody here got experience with Video Jul 15 03:28:56 ad sales would be killer Jul 15 03:29:06 true Jul 15 03:29:13 paid app with ads Jul 15 03:29:19 sometimes the price is 65 dollars Jul 15 03:29:24 prices like that make a grown man holler Jul 15 03:29:46 wow, tv's been on for 45 minutes... seen 9 commercials for evo Jul 15 03:30:24 I didn't see 9 pre commercials for 6 months last year Jul 15 03:30:26 evo is pretty sweet. Jul 15 03:31:19 omap4430 blaze development platform is pretty sweet .. it has 2 3.7" wvga screens, hdmi out, rj45 ethernet, wifi, full qwerty keyboard .. Jul 15 03:31:20 I'll own an ipad before android phone Jul 15 03:31:37 and that'll probly be never, so... Jul 15 03:31:43 I can't tell whether or not android's getting more or less attractive to me Jul 15 03:31:54 I love my evo Jul 15 03:32:02 it's starting to feel like if I get an android phone it'll be winmo with kinetic scrolling Jul 15 03:32:22 lol Jul 15 03:32:43 http://cdn.slashgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/ti_blaze_omap4-540x359.jpg - that's the phone everyone really wants .. don't let them fool you Jul 15 03:32:50 Man, looks like one of our developers got arrested: http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/photo.php?pid=13674485&id=856105532 Jul 15 03:33:16 EmmettLollis: Not found? Jul 15 03:33:32 hmm Jul 15 03:33:51 I FOUND THE ANSWER Jul 15 03:33:54 What was it? Jul 15 03:33:56 lol, blaze Jul 15 03:33:56 25 Jul 15 03:34:07 here's a smaller photo http://www.newson6.com/global/story.asp?s=12806315 Jul 15 03:34:10 literally Jul 15 03:34:14 that's the answer Jul 15 03:34:49 i multiply the current metronome speed by 25 and add it to the current time to predict what beat i will be in the future, to eliminate 99% of the audio latency Jul 15 03:35:03 Hah Jul 15 03:35:07 interesting body modifications Jul 15 03:35:28 he looks like a nice enough guy.. Jul 15 03:35:46 codeslaw: what's the app? Jul 15 03:36:08 BigBiff: music step sequencer, aka drum machine Jul 15 03:36:16 sweet Jul 15 03:36:21 Nice Jul 15 03:36:32 anyone want to beta test? i can send device binaries and run script Jul 15 03:36:47 whats the app? Jul 15 03:36:51 I would if I had a decent comp Jul 15 03:36:53 step sequencer Jul 15 03:36:56 nah Jul 15 03:36:56 man Jul 15 03:37:00 Here here Jul 15 03:37:01 all the internet around me has just been derping Jul 15 03:37:03 <----- Jul 15 03:37:11 like my home connection can't even consistently load a page Jul 15 03:37:14 Anivrom: PM me email address Jul 15 03:37:25 and now my pre is apparently broken Jul 15 03:37:51 do any devices have general midi sounds built in? Jul 15 03:37:58 winmo Jul 15 03:38:00 (random question) Jul 15 03:38:06 comes with an alouette midi and everything Jul 15 03:38:08 ahh, makes sense Jul 15 03:38:12 torchie: ISP clamped down because you used too many GBs constantly refreshing Jul 15 03:38:20 * torchie updates Jul 15 03:38:21 * torchie refresh Jul 15 03:39:06 possible to add a midi library via an app ? Jul 15 03:39:19 or patch? Jul 15 03:40:03 Finale app would be sweeeet Jul 15 03:40:19 kesne: 3 hours 20 minutes Jul 15 03:40:24 ? Jul 15 03:40:32 until you're officially full of shit :) Jul 15 03:40:59 that boat has sailed Jul 15 03:41:40 i heard that sprint wants to hold off until the rest of the market tests the new release for 400 days Jul 15 03:42:02 does android have ota updates? Jul 15 03:42:26 lol Jul 15 03:43:50 Ugh had to doctor my phone, now it taste like vanilla. my least favourite flavour of anything Jul 15 03:43:55 wife - samsung moment - turns off wifi to check for updates Jul 15 03:44:10 i heart fanilla Jul 15 03:44:13 'smart' phone :/ Jul 15 03:44:49 Anivrom: at lease it doesn't taste like the shitting phone Jul 15 03:44:50 android, psh Jul 15 03:45:04 Guess that's a plus+! Jul 15 03:45:08 I want blaze tablet Jul 15 03:45:17 indeed Jul 15 03:45:49 blaze dev kit looks to much like a calculartor Jul 15 03:46:22 anyone else to beta test a PDK app? run script included! Jul 15 03:47:13 codeslaw: is it that drum machine app or is it paintr? Jul 15 03:47:41 drum machine Jul 15 03:47:52 * Tibfib would. Jul 15 03:47:57 but I need sleep Jul 15 03:47:59 night all Jul 15 03:48:04 lates Jul 15 03:48:09 cya tib Jul 15 03:48:35 if the Ev icon is just gray Jul 15 03:48:41 that means it's connected but not transmitting? Jul 15 03:48:48 codeslaw: i can test, but in the morning is that fine? Jul 15 03:49:16 he's afk atm Jul 15 03:49:23 i can ssh to a phone, but i forgot to install sudo. How do i get this phone's gps coords? Jul 15 03:49:47 prolly better to ask that question in #webos-internals Jul 15 03:50:17 ok. maybe someday i'll learn the difference between the chans :) Jul 15 03:50:30 why is that tablet marketed to developers primarily? Jul 15 03:50:31 this channel is for app devs/programmers Jul 15 03:50:40 webos-internals is for hacking/modding phones Jul 15 03:51:17 I need videoooo Jul 15 03:52:31 Also, reason why Perfect Bounce doesn't have video: No emulator support Jul 15 03:52:54 kesne: why isnt there emu support? Jul 15 03:53:02 Accelerometer based Jul 15 03:53:13 take a webcam and do a live demo.. just as nice Jul 15 03:53:31 webcams should not be used for that Jul 15 03:53:41 Why not? it gets the point across. Jul 15 03:53:52 I'd rather have a video demo on webcam than none at all Jul 15 03:54:04 because they should be in college dorm rooms live streaming Jul 15 03:54:13 there are worse things you could do with a webcam Jul 15 03:54:14 lol Jul 15 03:54:47 what about college dorms and webcams? ;) Jul 15 03:55:07 halfhalo was saying he installed one in your dorm when you were in college. Jul 15 03:55:13 :o Jul 15 03:55:22 Not just his..... Jul 15 03:55:25 lol Jul 15 03:55:29 * dkirker is still in college :o Jul 15 03:55:40 check your window. Jul 15 03:55:44 dun dun dunnnnn Jul 15 03:55:48 gah!!! Jul 15 03:55:49 wireless webcams Jul 15 03:56:16 shoe cams Jul 15 03:56:29 voyeur? Jul 15 03:56:47 me? never Jul 15 03:57:02 mhmmm Jul 15 03:57:19 wait! thats my next app idea... an app to turn your pre into a shoe cam Jul 15 03:58:01 **duct-tape not included** Jul 15 03:58:10 right Jul 15 03:58:26 it has a button that turns on the camera Jul 15 03:58:38 I miss my unthrottle download patch Jul 15 03:58:52 retrieving my apps takes forever Jul 15 03:59:23 Heh Jul 15 03:59:25 wifi wtf Jul 15 03:59:30 ftw Jul 15 03:59:34 I'm on wifi Jul 15 03:59:37 how many are getting ready to check updates in 30 seonds? Jul 15 04:00:07 and those rounded corners are brutal. that's the 2nd patch I'm installing. Jul 15 04:00:21 nope no update Jul 15 04:00:22 12:00 AM EST Jul 15 04:00:27 gimme my screenspace palm! Jul 15 04:00:33 refreshing Jul 15 04:00:36 Sucks for you guys eh? Jul 15 04:00:43 yes it does Jul 15 04:00:48 You should move to canada. You woulda had the update 3 hours ago Jul 15 04:00:50 I like the rounded corners :( Jul 15 04:00:52 oh wait it says i'm already up to date Jul 15 04:01:05 except for when they overlay the corner of the Terminal app Jul 15 04:01:09 which already has tiny text :( Jul 15 04:01:25 damn canadians Jul 15 04:01:41 Anybody want to make me a video? Jul 15 04:01:51 I have a really good idea Jul 15 04:01:54 For a commercial Jul 15 04:01:59 And the money to make it Jul 15 04:02:05 dont forget to get rid of these http://forums.precentral.net/webos-patches/253860-attention-patches-must-removed-prior-ota-update.html\ Jul 15 04:02:05 I just don't have the people/technology Jul 15 04:02:07 http://forums.precentral.net/webos-patches/253860-attention-patches-must-removed-prior-ota-update.html Jul 15 04:02:08 last time i made a video i got banned from delta airlines Jul 15 04:02:21 lol Jul 15 04:02:25 link?? Jul 15 04:02:37 patriot act Jul 15 04:02:44 halfhalo: seriously? Jul 15 04:02:49 same reason I'm not allowed in kansas Jul 15 04:03:00 halfhalo: I hope you're not joking Jul 15 04:03:04 I don't think I have enough patches Jul 15 04:03:07 Palm webOS 1.4.5 Available. this update contains a variety of minor software improvements. Jul 15 04:03:13 WHAT Jul 15 04:03:16 sounds like an action packed update. Jul 15 04:03:22 oh wait Jul 15 04:03:23 :( Jul 15 04:03:39 SIKE Jul 15 04:03:54 its ok though, no one likes kansas and delta is to pricey Jul 15 04:04:11 OH LOOK 1.4.5 ON MY SPRINT! Jul 15 04:04:17 stop your lies Jul 15 04:04:23 * torchie palmhotapps.com Jul 15 04:04:26 * torchie refresh Jul 15 04:04:27 what, early access Jul 15 04:04:35 its not on mine Jul 15 04:04:41 busted. Jul 15 04:04:51 hi chuqui Jul 15 04:04:57 oh snap Jul 15 04:05:02 hey, my phone died Jul 15 04:05:07 :/ Jul 15 04:05:18 * torchie refresh refresh Jul 15 04:05:50 damn, i have alot of apps not updated.... Jul 15 04:06:01 i need the vzw update though Jul 15 04:06:19 hey, all Jul 15 04:06:31 who are you and what do you want Jul 15 04:06:39 :p Jul 15 04:06:46 what do you wish of this, our establishment at ##webos Jul 15 04:07:01 ask for anything, anything at all and we'll look into it Jul 15 04:07:33 ugh... inservice tomorrow Jul 15 04:07:35 hi chuqui Jul 15 04:08:28 chuqui here to announce free new device to anyone on this channel Jul 15 04:08:42 sounds like a plan Jul 15 04:08:49 I'm game Jul 15 04:08:52 webos 3d 4g Jul 15 04:08:54 here here Jul 15 04:09:06 webos 3d 4g SP XP director's cut Jul 15 04:09:09 then it's settled Jul 15 04:09:25 were going to mexico Jul 15 04:09:34 widescreen Jul 15 04:09:57 dolby 7.1 Jul 15 04:09:59 1 inch by 8 inch screen Jul 15 04:10:05 * torchie palmhotapps.com updates Jul 15 04:10:09 * torchie refresh refresh Jul 15 04:10:14 bose technology Jul 15 04:10:14 I'm here to invite all of you to join my cult. Jul 15 04:10:20 ...go on Jul 15 04:10:26 Look, I'm lik chuq Jul 15 04:10:38 * EmmettLollis joins the cult Jul 15 04:10:46 I joined Jul 15 04:10:52 head shaved, check Jul 15 04:10:58 do I get anything if I join? Jul 15 04:11:02 tambourine, check Jul 15 04:11:14 chuqui: want to make me a video Jul 15 04:11:23 unicycle, check Jul 15 04:11:24 * oil starts mixing coolaid? Jul 15 04:11:32 goat, Jul 15 04:11:34 koolaid too Jul 15 04:11:40 yeah Jul 15 04:11:44 goat, dammit whers the goat Jul 15 04:11:47 oil! Jul 15 04:11:52 What are you doing here?! Jul 15 04:11:57 thats not oil Jul 15 04:11:57 Go back to the gulf! Jul 15 04:12:00 its zsoc :P Jul 15 04:12:04 slummin Jul 15 04:12:05 lol Jul 15 04:12:06 Is it really? Jul 15 04:12:08 yea Jul 15 04:12:14 +oil is oil Jul 15 04:12:19 Is the oiI or oil Jul 15 04:12:33 * rwhitby detects a significant age difference between chuqui and chuckui Jul 15 04:12:45 rwhitby: is god Jul 15 04:13:04 we're going to do uniforms in my cult. and cookies. Jul 15 04:13:12 and for really special cult members, grape koolaid. Jul 15 04:13:17 im down Jul 15 04:13:22 what about magic brownies? Jul 15 04:13:25 YES! Jul 15 04:13:36 :D :D :D Jul 15 04:13:39 :D Jul 15 04:13:41 :D :D Jul 15 04:13:44 :D :D :D Jul 15 04:13:48 :D :D :D :D Jul 15 04:13:54 free nikes? Jul 15 04:13:54 and annual field trips to candy mountain? Jul 15 04:13:54 :D :D :D :D :D Jul 15 04:14:00 I'm growin a mustache for this cult Jul 15 04:14:00 Aww, oil broke it Jul 15 04:14:09 Where you will unwittingly "donate" your kidney Jul 15 04:14:21 I love you guys Jul 15 04:14:33 and I'm gonna buy some big rose colored glasses Jul 15 04:15:10 Hey look kesne I found a pic of you online Jul 15 04:15:12 ##### Jul 15 04:15:12 #### _\_ ________ Jul 15 04:15:12 ##=-[.].]| \ \ Jul 15 04:15:12 #( _\ | |------| Jul 15 04:15:12 # __| | |||||||| Jul 15 04:15:12 \ _/ | |||||||| Jul 15 04:15:12 .--'--'-. | | ____ | Jul 15 04:15:13 _(____nm_______ /____\____ Jul 15 04:15:16 ? Jul 15 04:18:52 no, i'm dekan! Jul 15 04:19:03 dekan, shut up Jul 15 04:19:03 Okay, halfhalo - be back in a bit! Jul 15 04:19:05 relax buddy no one said you were'nt Jul 15 04:19:12 :P Jul 15 04:19:52 what language do irc scripts run on? Jul 15 04:20:07 mine run in js, but I think that ones python Jul 15 04:20:28 I should google how you would goa bout coding one Jul 15 04:20:36 I don't know how it would hook into the chat Jul 15 04:20:47 we should have some assembly irc scripts Jul 15 04:20:54 I have a node irc class I made that handles all that Jul 15 04:21:29 Are there IRC api's for reading chat and such? Jul 15 04:21:37 mine Jul 15 04:21:53 :p Jul 15 04:21:54 Ok so under the hood how do you hook into it Jul 15 04:21:56 :P Jul 15 04:22:30 learn node.js (retartedly simple) and use this: http://github.com/halfhalo/Node.js-IRC/blob/master/irc.js Jul 15 04:23:28 http://forums.precentral.net/webos-patches/253860-attention-patches-must-removed-prior-ota-update.html Jul 15 04:23:33 WE KNOW! Jul 15 04:23:42 I must spam it Jul 15 04:23:52 It is my prime directive Jul 15 04:24:19 lol, RoboCop Jul 15 04:25:43 robocop was good till it went all PG13 Jul 15 04:25:59 rubber bullets :P Jul 15 04:26:03 heh, true. Jul 15 04:26:19 the first one had that OCP guy partying with hookers and cocaine Jul 15 04:26:26 chuqui: any doomsday date involved in your new cult? Jul 15 04:26:41 no, that wasn't the OCP guy, that was me Jul 15 04:27:26 * rwhitby watched an episode of Hotel Babylon the other night (good UK show) involving a cult and plates of bacon Jul 15 04:27:56 rwhitby not that I'd admit to. Jul 15 04:28:13 they tend to scare the minions. Jul 15 04:28:30 minions = suckers Jul 15 04:31:11 :/ Jul 15 04:31:15 stupid hp printer Jul 15 04:31:15 That would be a good name for a band. Jul 15 04:31:25 dekan: shut up Jul 15 04:31:26 Okay, halfhalo - be back in a bit! Jul 15 04:34:12 why is there no driver available online for this... Jul 15 04:35:54 OH SNAP Jul 15 04:36:03 I'm going to have a linux computer soon! Jul 15 04:39:52 http://6.media.bustedtees.com/bustedtees/mf/2/3/bustedtees.ef270fa215d10509c3fd5a7396959940.gif Jul 15 04:40:25 dekan, I will murder you if you do not leave right now Jul 15 04:40:25 I'm sorry, there's currently nothing associated with that keyphrase. Jul 15 04:40:49 dkirker: can you boot dekan? Jul 15 04:41:08 or op me so I can. :p Jul 15 04:41:15 lol Jul 15 04:41:27 Yeah. It looks like it is responding excessively. Jul 15 04:41:35 We'd have to call you Sir halfhalo Jul 15 04:41:46 meh Jul 15 04:41:54 Akin to being knighted Jul 15 04:42:54 does chuqui work for palm? Jul 15 04:42:59 yes Jul 15 04:43:02 yes Jul 15 04:43:08 how closely tied is he to dev stuff? Jul 15 04:43:22 he is art of dev relations Jul 15 04:43:24 *part Jul 15 04:43:33 ah. Jul 15 04:43:59 So we can complain/rag to/on him for things we want/desire/need Jul 15 04:44:38 been there, done that Jul 15 04:44:48 deaf ears? Jul 15 04:48:26 palm-log is giving me this error "error: Uncaught ReferenceError: variableSearch is not defined, app/BestS.js:17" but the variable variableSearch is nowhere in my project. It was a while ago. :( Jul 15 04:49:22 post that line of code. Jul 15 04:50:07 this.searchParams = Jul 15 04:50:23 and the line below begins an object literal Jul 15 04:50:49 It sounds like the source file on the device isn't being updated? Jul 15 04:51:02 gimme a min Jul 15 05:00:10 So none of you guys have the update yet? O_o Jul 15 05:00:17 nope :( Jul 15 05:00:20 weird Jul 15 05:00:25 none for me Jul 15 05:00:46 oh codeslaw. Ready for this compiling thingy mejigger Jul 15 05:01:00 ok, can you open a command shell Jul 15 05:01:04 what OS are you on Jul 15 05:01:07 windows Jul 15 05:01:17 ok open up a command prompt Jul 15 05:01:20 "the best os" Jul 15 05:01:25 -_- Jul 15 05:01:25 Hey Jul 15 05:01:27 All Jul 15 05:01:29 lol Jul 15 05:01:32 Look, a wild codeslaw! Jul 15 05:01:34 KESNE!??!?!?! Jul 15 05:01:34 anyhow continue Jul 15 05:01:37 Whats up!? Jul 15 05:01:42 nada Jul 15 05:01:46 What were you talking about? Jul 15 05:01:57 telling Anivrom how to run the PDK binary i sent him Jul 15 05:02:01 kesne: Jul 15 05:02:02 Oh Jul 15 05:02:04 i mean, Anivrom Jul 15 05:02:04 SEND ME ONE! Jul 15 05:02:15 :D :D :D Jul 15 05:02:28 then type pdk-device-install Jul 15 05:02:33 kesne: codeslaw.net/beta_tb/beta.zip Jul 15 05:02:42 its for ppl with epeens bigger than 2 inches kesne. I got plenty maybe I'll lend you some. doubt it though Jul 15 05:02:43 how do I wipe logs on my device? Jul 15 05:03:08 codeslaw: Should I navigate tot he sdk folder first? Jul 15 05:03:14 no, just type that Jul 15 05:03:20 if you have the PDK installed, it will run the command Jul 15 05:03:25 not recognized Jul 15 05:03:44 oh wait Jul 15 05:03:45 you have the latest SDK/PDK from palm? Jul 15 05:03:52 I installed 1.4.5 on my wifes computer Jul 15 05:03:56 mmm Jul 15 05:03:57 let me install Jul 15 05:04:32 I heard it breaks the emu though :/ Jul 15 05:04:37 1.4.1.1 is here! Jul 15 05:04:40 oh Jul 15 05:04:44 Hah Jul 15 05:04:45 ! Jul 15 05:04:48 Good joke Jul 15 05:04:55 i have had no emu problems Jul 15 05:04:59 but i am on a mac Jul 15 05:05:00 ok Jul 15 05:05:09 Yea i can't remember if its os specific Jul 15 05:05:11 kesne: you gonna run the beta i sent you? Jul 15 05:05:20 emu's are large birds Jul 15 05:05:28 Something to do with updating to the latest version of VB Jul 15 05:09:39 * sugardave finds graphical evidence of someone else working on the same project. Jul 15 05:09:44 they are much further than I am Jul 15 05:09:45 lame Jul 15 05:09:54 YOUR LAME Jul 15 05:14:56 what proj? Jul 15 05:15:38 top secret pdk stuff apparently Jul 15 05:16:13 sugardave: WHAT IS IT!? Jul 15 05:16:14 :O Jul 15 05:23:25 Droid X trailer is so sexy Jul 15 05:23:30 Really beautiful Jul 15 05:23:49 Verizon/Moto/Google are really giving the droid name everything they've got Jul 15 05:24:24 still no love for the us Jul 15 05:29:22 Heh Jul 15 05:31:24 halfhalo_pre: Welcome Jul 15 05:32:34 shove it Jul 15 05:32:45 :p Jul 15 05:33:14 halfhalo: You're flipping me out here Jul 15 05:33:29 YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH Jul 15 05:33:53 :O Jul 15 05:33:57 * kesne cowers in fear Jul 15 05:34:08 damn straight Jul 15 05:34:11 Beep boop Jul 15 05:37:53 fonts in webos are 12px? Jul 15 05:38:17 12px == smal Jul 15 05:38:21 24px is good on WebOS Jul 15 05:38:51 your small Jul 15 05:38:58 halfhalo_pre: hah Jul 15 05:38:58 lol Jul 15 05:38:59 Good joke Jul 15 05:39:02 Only my penis Jul 15 05:39:03 ok 24px Jul 15 05:39:18 it's 24px? Jul 15 05:40:01 24px looks good Jul 15 05:40:10 12px looks like fine print Jul 15 05:40:58 i use em Jul 15 05:41:48 Told you Jul 15 05:46:47 Dick Cheney is the Man! Jul 15 05:47:06 He is the Man who wont die.... LVAD FTW! Jul 15 05:47:06 codeslaw: you still need testers? Jul 15 05:49:59 sure Jul 15 05:50:03 you have the PDK installed? Jul 15 05:52:09 codeslaw: can run the sample on my computer... Jul 15 05:52:37 gonna run Jul 15 05:52:39 later Jul 15 05:52:42 laters Jul 15 05:53:11 hmm, they're having a droid x launch right now not too far from here Jul 15 05:53:34 oh wait, i have no money Jul 15 05:53:59 codeslaw. can you give me a quick rundown of those commands now Jul 15 05:56:11 LoneStar99: how do I compile his code to my device? Jul 15 05:56:22 I'm in the console Jul 15 05:56:22 is torchie here? Jul 15 05:57:23 Anivrom: have only gotten the sample PDK code to work on my device, still learning the PDK stuff Jul 15 05:57:31 ah ok Jul 15 05:57:39 codeslaw: ping Jul 15 05:57:47 hey sorry Jul 15 05:57:49 ooh poor dekan got kicked, i will tell maik to turn off that anoying random comment thing when nothing is going on Jul 15 05:58:00 Anivrom: He's looking at something! D:< Jul 15 05:58:01 CTLAdvance: cya Jul 15 05:58:01 so, run pdk-device-install Jul 15 05:58:14 ok Jul 15 05:58:21 ?:^(O) Jul 15 05:58:38 should I be giving it an install arg? Jul 15 05:58:53 no, it will run a script Jul 15 05:59:03 it didnt. Jul 15 05:59:17 just popped up with usage Jul 15 05:59:17 i thought it was pdk-device-install install Jul 15 05:59:22 yea Jul 15 05:59:33 ?:^(|) Jul 15 05:59:49 It's running a script now Jul 15 06:00:04 ok done Jul 15 06:00:05 now what Jul 15 06:00:15 codeslaw: done now what Jul 15 06:00:24 now you have a virus and all your gigaflops are belong to us Jul 15 06:00:36 get to the directory that you downloaded Jul 15 06:00:40 sweet. I meant to do that Jul 15 06:00:42 ok Jul 15 06:00:45 done Jul 15 06:00:49 the type Jul 15 06:00:53 ./runit.sh Jul 15 06:01:02 erm wher in command? Jul 15 06:01:14 ya command prompt Jul 15 06:01:51 can't open the file Jul 15 06:02:00 unsupported filetype Jul 15 06:02:08 unrecognized* Jul 15 06:02:22 <--- windows Jul 15 06:02:34 anivrom: .sh will not run in windows Jul 15 06:02:39 linux, unix Jul 15 06:02:43 mhmmmm Jul 15 06:02:55 ah Jul 15 06:03:04 is there scp for windows? Jul 15 06:03:08 you can't ipk compile it? Jul 15 06:03:18 nah i haven't set that up =( Jul 15 06:03:22 ill webosQI it Jul 15 06:03:23 oh Jul 15 06:03:46 I'd love to get it goin gthough. I'm a drummer in RL! Jul 15 06:04:22 Emergency Fstab Fixer (EFF) now available for those who get webOS 1.4.5: http://bit.ly/a7fXr8 Jul 15 06:05:58 Goodnight alls Jul 15 06:06:37 following Anivrom - getting the haystack Jul 15 06:06:45 laters! Jul 15 06:07:17 man i wish i could update my pre to 1.4.5 manually i am sick of waiting Jul 15 06:07:32 stupid pdl library functions just dont work Jul 15 06:10:18 whats your app you're workin on digitalpowers Jul 15 06:11:01 just a silly game, accelorometer driven sdl 2d graphics game Jul 15 06:12:06 i have been having a hard time wrapping my brain around opengl Jul 15 06:13:02 i think i will just go with opengl es 1.x because opengl es 2.0 is confounding Jul 15 06:13:10 1.1 is way easier Jul 15 06:13:44 i have been looking for some tutorials that will compile on the pre but the only stuff i have found flat out doesnt work when directly copied over Jul 15 06:14:15 but oh well, a chalenge is what is fun about programing so eventually i will get it going Jul 15 06:15:21 i am planning on spending the next couple of months doing an experiment, i am going to develop several simple games that take little time and put them up for $1 and see how much $$ i can make Jul 15 06:16:42 just a suggestion Jul 15 06:16:59 if they are crap, make sure either you support them, or use a different account Jul 15 06:17:15 i dont intend to make them crap, just simiple Jul 15 06:17:19 oh ok Jul 15 06:17:30 you should do ok, I did when I started Jul 15 06:17:38 but its harder to get that dolla now Jul 15 06:17:49 I suggest also trying a free with ads approach Jul 15 06:18:00 I have stupid apps that have 40 - 60k downloads Jul 15 06:18:04 free with ads Jul 15 06:18:09 nothing complicated just simple games to kill time, i have been noticing that people are very willing to spend $1 on something that is nearly useless so long as it doesnt pretend to be more Jul 15 06:18:19 yes Jul 15 06:18:32 yeah i tried the add supported model on my first app, and it got several thousand downloads but never really generated much ad revenue Jul 15 06:18:37 i was using admob though Jul 15 06:18:42 and i hear that is the worst of them Jul 15 06:18:44 wow Jul 15 06:19:02 I spent two hours and am making almost 100 a month from them Jul 15 06:19:09 nice Jul 15 06:19:25 yeah but I mad over 1k the first month :P Jul 15 06:19:38 good luck Jul 15 06:19:40 going to bed Jul 15 06:19:44 be back in 5 hours Jul 15 06:19:45 maybe i should do it as a real experement and do every other game ad supported Jul 15 06:19:48 see which nets more Jul 15 06:19:52 yeah i need to sleep as well Jul 15 06:19:56 work comes early Jul 15 06:20:01 yes it does Jul 15 06:20:08 gnight #webos Jul 15 06:43:36 is there any limit to length of body of email - allowed to be send from a web os device ? Jul 15 06:45:32 I want a log of network traffic from user device for debugging purpose, for which I write all network send / receive to a DB and then read the content of DB and add it to email body. Is this the right way to do ? Or is there any better way to do this ? Jul 15 07:03:43 ugh, still no 1.4.5 :( Jul 15 07:06:02 it's not coming Jul 15 07:06:32 you would think with the hot apps contest it would Jul 15 07:10:20 http://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=8109 Jul 15 07:15:07 i got EmmettLollis ;) Jul 15 07:15:20 But can't use it for anything Jul 15 07:15:49 oh i can be used for lots of things, thats one thing i've learned Jul 15 07:16:30 Good morning. Jul 15 07:16:49 good morning Jul 15 07:17:31 What do i benifit 1.4.5 for? Jul 15 07:17:52 run PDK apps Jul 15 07:18:40 it also prints money Jul 15 07:19:59 PDK apps? Have i misunderstood everything? Jul 15 07:20:07 Is Need For Speed not a PDK app? Jul 15 07:20:34 The Money function is nice. Use it all the time :) Jul 15 07:20:47 i know there are some pdk functions that dont work on 1.4.1 Jul 15 07:22:20 what? Jul 15 07:22:49 PDK_Init() was one i ran into Jul 15 07:24:25 before i gave up playing with it Jul 15 07:28:12 in my Ajax.Request() call, how do I see what the request string sent to the server looks like? Jul 15 08:45:48 I want a log of network traffic from user device for debugging purpose, for which I write all network send / receive to a DB and then read the content of DB and add it to email body. Is this the right way to do ? Or is there any better way to do this ? Jul 15 09:08:31 saggy, what network traffic are we talkingabouyt? Jul 15 09:11:08 HotDP - my app act as a client to my server and make continuous HTTP req/resp which I want to log on client side and not on server, which the user can them mail me Jul 15 09:11:33 Oki. you can log the req that is easy Jul 15 09:11:44 But your q is how to store the data so you can send it right? Jul 15 09:12:07 yea - currently i log the req and its responce frmo the server into a DB Jul 15 09:12:52 my main concern is sending this data to me via email Jul 15 09:12:57 Don't know but what about loggin to a "log" file. and attach it to the email Jul 15 09:13:13 just a tekstfile Jul 15 09:13:15 textfile Jul 15 09:13:18 and append lines Jul 15 09:13:25 how do we create a log / text file ? Jul 15 09:13:46 good Q. have never done it in webos :s Jul 15 09:13:54 but it must be possible Jul 15 09:13:57 try google? Jul 15 09:14:07 i didnt see any file creation api - where would that be stored ? Jul 15 09:14:40 thats exactly my q - i tried - but in vain - there aren't any fopen / fclose like apis Jul 15 09:15:39 so i took option to append them to db and it happens, but when I read the db and add the HUGE text to email in body, it gets truncated Jul 15 09:18:17 any suggestion ? or alternate way of doing this ? Jul 15 09:23:57 hmm Jul 15 09:24:22 any insights HotDP ? Jul 15 09:25:09 I don't know then. Try ask here later. Jul 15 09:25:35 sure thanks :) Jul 15 09:41:14 good morning Jul 15 09:43:39 Good morning warpdesign Jul 15 10:20:11 so no update in the usa Jul 15 10:26:39 I want a log of network traffic (HTTP request / response) from user device for debugging purpose, for which I write all network send / receive to a DB and then read the content of DB and add it to email body. Is this the right way to do ? Or is there any better way to do this ? Jul 15 11:21:36 h Jul 15 11:21:45 hello Jul 15 11:45:15 are those pdk apps in the catalog? surprised palm has kept quiet about it Jul 15 11:47:51 quiet about what? Jul 15 11:48:35 hello Jul 15 11:51:19 a hot app competition was suppose to begin today. Jul 15 12:02:09 5am PDT definitely thought there'd be a 1.4.5.1 update Jul 15 12:02:12 nooooope Jul 15 12:02:30 http://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=8109 Jul 15 12:03:44 whoa Jul 15 12:53:04 * anivrom wonders whos awake this early Jul 15 12:53:29 * HotDP its 14:53 here Jul 15 12:54:00 * anivrom 9am here in edt land Jul 15 12:55:20 Btw has anyone other than bell canada received the 1.4.5 update yet? Jul 15 12:57:04 I have Jul 15 12:57:10 http://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=8109 Jul 15 12:57:13 I have the German phone, got it many days ago Jul 15 12:57:14 passing that along Jul 15 12:59:34 Pandora: you get the update yet? Jul 15 13:01:49 Wow interesting article. Jul 15 13:01:58 Sucks for the apps that it breaks Jul 15 13:02:19 I've not gotten the update Jul 15 13:02:23 US/Sprint Jul 15 13:04:10 Wow amazing. Also amazing how some carriers would refuse to issue the update if they fixed the pdk jailing issue Jul 15 13:06:08 they wouldn't refuse...they just would require it to go through their testing phase again Jul 15 13:09:06 palm FAIL Jul 15 13:25:36 Haeffb: Um the article says otherwise. Jul 15 13:27:02 If they fixed it in a way that required recert process some would reject it Jul 15 13:35:12 What up with you k- ? Jul 15 13:42:21 morning folks Jul 15 13:42:53 morning Jul 15 13:43:34 anyone from Canada around? Jul 15 13:43:53 HotDP: have you tested the EFF ? Jul 15 13:45:46 morning all Jul 15 13:47:28 Morning Jul 15 13:47:33 rwhitby EFF? Jul 15 13:48:05 HotDP: http://forums.precentral.net/showthread.php?p=2556103 Jul 15 13:48:47 No i havent :-) Jul 15 13:48:55 But have read that you made that path Jul 15 13:49:35 But i don't understand why i should? I do not have any problems with my phone? Jul 15 13:50:26 3D games are still working fine? Jul 15 13:51:23 1 sec Jul 15 13:52:26 Need for speed works? Jul 15 13:52:50 rwhitby: anivrom has bell canada, but it not around at the moment Jul 15 13:52:52 perfect Jul 15 13:53:23 HotDP: apparently it only affects those that tried to write data in /media/internal Jul 15 13:53:41 Ok. So i havent since the update so thats why it works here? Jul 15 13:53:42 I think Ancient Frog is affected Jul 15 14:14:33 wassup yall Jul 15 14:42:39 dkirker Jul 15 14:42:49 I think we have an excess flood again Jul 15 15:01:27 Hello Jul 15 15:02:48 Does anyone else have issues with the "show email" setting not working? Jul 15 15:03:15 I have it set to "7 days" but it keeps all email and never gets rid of anything unless I delete it Jul 15 15:03:52 I think "7 days" is the time backward it's gonna look for new amails to download Jul 15 15:04:32 that's what i found on the forum but I thought it would mean that it would only keep 7 days worht of email Jul 15 15:04:40 well, that sucks. but thanx for the help Jul 15 15:13:38 morning Jul 15 15:19:48 * maik gives dekan a stick Jul 15 15:19:48 * dekan now contains a stick. Jul 15 15:41:07 my phone keeps lying to me... Jul 15 15:41:11 it says it's up to date Jul 15 15:41:23 haha Jul 15 15:53:24 k-: please stop flooding the channel Jul 15 15:54:47 k- actually said words last night, but looked like he was trying to get a shell or something Jul 15 15:55:32 sugardave: He probably doesn't understand what is going on. Jul 15 15:55:53 GUESS WHOZ HEIR!? Jul 15 15:56:02 webos-info! Jul 15 16:00:51 kesne!!! Jul 15 16:00:52 i mean Jul 15 16:00:55 webos-info!!! Jul 15 16:01:02 dekan: kesne Jul 15 16:01:02 kesne is bot Jul 15 16:01:08 Yes? Jul 15 16:01:18 maik is pretty cool Jul 15 16:01:42 dekan: kesne =~ s/bot/a bot/ Jul 15 16:01:42 Okay, maik, factoid updated. Jul 15 16:01:46 dekan: kesne Jul 15 16:01:46 kesne is a bot Jul 15 16:01:59 dekan: is annoying Jul 15 16:01:59 Error at 0x08: Reference not found Jul 15 16:02:18 * maik pats dekan Jul 15 16:02:18 * dekan purrrrrrrrrr Jul 15 16:02:39 pandora--: how is dekan annoying? Jul 15 16:02:47 bots are annoying Jul 15 16:03:08 and now you're generalizing based on your interactions with a single bot?!?!?! BIGOT! Jul 15 16:03:30 haha Jul 15 16:03:42 * pandora-- sighs Jul 15 16:03:48 generalizations are typically true ;) Jul 15 16:04:09 otherwise they wouldn't be generalizations, now would they? Jul 15 16:04:28 pandora--: you can also /ignore it, or if he becomes really annoying at any point you can tell him to shut up for a bit Jul 15 16:04:29 generally... no Jul 15 16:04:29 :) Jul 15 16:04:34 s/also/always/ Jul 15 16:04:41 dekan: stfu Jul 15 16:04:41 I don't know anything about that. Jul 15 16:04:58 dekan: docs Jul 15 16:04:58 My documentation is at: http://wiki.xkcd.com/irc/Bucket Jul 15 16:06:21 deakn: shut up Jul 15 16:06:25 er Jul 15 16:06:28 dekan: shut up Jul 15 16:06:28 Okay, webos-info - be back in a bit! Jul 15 16:07:48 dkirker : Can we haz ban hammer? ;) Jul 15 16:07:58 or can I haz kick hammer? Jul 15 16:08:04 seriously, if the majority of you guys don't like it i can kill it Jul 15 16:08:33 but, as it is right now, it's not doing anything to annoy anyone Jul 15 16:09:01 are you saying maik that you are responsible for k- flooding the channel Jul 15 16:09:04 i just find bots annoying in (mostly)informational channels, etc Jul 15 16:09:23 but look he is helpful Jul 15 16:09:24 canvas Jul 15 16:09:24 http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1792 Jul 15 16:09:28 CTLAdvance: i mistakenly assumed you were talking about dekan Jul 15 16:09:59 Whats even worse if his message says flood channel Jul 15 16:10:08 or Excess Flood Jul 15 16:10:13 unfortunately, most of the bot-use is chatter not helpful doc stuff *shrug* Jul 15 16:10:26 i'll go with the majority on it Jul 15 16:10:36 webos-info pandora is not bot friendly Jul 15 16:10:42 Gotchya Jul 15 16:10:44 indeed :) Jul 15 16:11:03 webos-info botsmack pandora-- Jul 15 16:11:08 why the hell is dekan here.... Jul 15 16:11:09 What? Jul 15 16:11:27 webos-info slap pandora-- with a trout Jul 15 16:11:43 * webos-info slaps pandora-- with a large troup Jul 15 16:11:44 ok, i certainly don't want to step on anyone's toes, so if majority (or someone who matters) wants it gone, i'll certainly remove it Jul 15 16:11:45 Er Jul 15 16:11:46 Trout Jul 15 16:11:48 halfhalo: +1 Jul 15 16:11:51 no sense in keeping it if no one wants it Jul 15 16:11:52 haha Jul 15 16:12:08 maik what are you talking about Jul 15 16:12:10 make em stop randomly talking and were good Jul 15 16:12:34 halfhalo: i think i did that earlier Jul 15 16:12:53 he has a setting where if it's idle for x minutes it will say something completely random, i set it to 0 and i think it disabled it Jul 15 16:12:53 utility bots are useful for the group, but novelty bots are pointless for a channel like this Jul 15 16:12:55 .... imo Jul 15 16:13:01 :) Jul 15 16:13:06 has anyone been doing opengles stuff yet? i have decided to ditch 2.0 and try to learn 1.1 and i was curious if anyone had samples or a good source of tutorials on actually using opengles 1.1 with sdl and on webos? Jul 15 16:13:19 pandora--: chances are if you want it to serve some utility you can get it to do that Jul 15 16:13:30 digitalpowers: already did with canvas Jul 15 16:13:31 yeah. MY bot has a single purpose that will be well known if I ever get around to making it Jul 15 16:13:38 is dekan a bot? Jul 15 16:13:43 CTLAdvance: yeah Jul 15 16:13:48 dekan: are you a bot? Jul 15 16:13:48 NO! Jul 15 16:13:53 lol Jul 15 16:13:55 i guess not... Jul 15 16:14:09 dekan slap dekan with a large trout Jul 15 16:14:18 kesne: so, my phone isn't running 1.4.5.1 Jul 15 16:14:29 dekan: docs? Jul 15 16:14:29 My documentation is at: http://wiki.xkcd.com/irc/Bucket Jul 15 16:14:32 kesne: you owe me an IRC dollar Jul 15 16:14:35 pandora--: Your fault Jul 15 16:14:41 pandora--: Move somewhere else Jul 15 16:14:48 hahaha Jul 15 16:14:49 yeah kesne you promised us it was coming yesterday Jul 15 16:14:53 yup Jul 15 16:15:12 he was talkin all kinds of crap about having inside knowledge and good info and sources Jul 15 16:15:14 yadda yadda Jul 15 16:15:17 all talk Jul 15 16:15:18 How was I supposed to know where you live? Jul 15 16:15:27 kesne was? Jul 15 16:15:36 because your a stalker kense Jul 15 16:16:48 oh yeah Jul 15 16:16:52 Well I suppose that's true Jul 15 16:17:50 hopefully you all learned a valuable lesson Jul 15 16:18:09 opengles is hard? Jul 15 16:18:13 not to leave your hatchett in the car at night? Jul 15 16:18:23 sugardave: that canadians get first access to buggy updates? (guinea pigs!) Jul 15 16:18:34 :D Jul 15 16:18:52 they thought they were so lucky... Jul 15 16:19:21 psh canada, more like north montana Jul 15 16:20:09 seriously can we just ban K- Jul 15 16:20:29 what for? Jul 15 16:20:40 pies Jul 15 16:20:46 mmm pie i like pie Jul 15 16:20:52 He keeps coming on and logging off all day all night Jul 15 16:21:03 its like a horror film gone wrong and his exit message Jul 15 16:21:06 is excess flood Jul 15 16:21:17 haha, you want to ban somone for having a bad internet connection? Jul 15 16:21:17 I think he's trying to be an elite IRC hacker Jul 15 16:21:31 we need to BAN K-.... lets burn a giant T for Time to Leave!!!!!! Jul 15 16:21:57 what is wrong with every single person in this channel Jul 15 16:22:21 digitalpowers, its not his connection... if it was it wouldnt be so frequent Jul 15 16:22:33 hrm Jul 15 16:22:36 and his message is excess flood Jul 15 16:22:39 well on a more important note Jul 15 16:22:45 has anyone been doing opengles stuff yet? i have decided to ditch 2.0 and try to learn 1.1 and i was curious if anyone had samples or a good source of tutorials on actually using opengles 1.1 with sdl and on webos? Jul 15 16:22:46 it looks like a script to log in and log out Jul 15 16:23:00 why ditch 2.0? Jul 15 16:23:09 because i dont get it Jul 15 16:23:13 oh Jul 15 16:23:17 maybe thats my problem Jul 15 16:23:22 ill have to look at 11 Jul 15 16:23:23 1.1 Jul 15 16:23:27 CTLAdvance: I would prefer to get a hold of k- first and get him to realize what is going wrong before banning him. Jul 15 16:23:37 gles 2.0 is chaos, those shaders make no sense to me at all Jul 15 16:23:56 dkirker - do you think he actually has something going wrong? Jul 15 16:24:14 possibly Jul 15 16:24:54 interesting... it looks like he is trying to flood our channel on purpose, based on his message. But I could be wrong Jul 15 16:25:14 and maybe his log off script is failing because he times out every once in a while Jul 15 16:25:26 it is possible that it could be a bot to. When he shows up next and stays, I'll ping him, if he doesn't respond, I'll just block him. Jul 15 16:26:13 his user name concerns me a bit, ]r Jul 15 16:26:44 anyway, work time, back in a bit Jul 15 16:26:53 hes doing it in the internals channel as well Jul 15 16:27:47 digitalpowers: You can follow the NeHe OpenGL tutorials and make the changes required for ES 1.1. Like using vertex arrays, and using the *4f functions instead of *3f. Jul 15 16:29:11 i tried following his tutorials but i am confused how to go from using glBegin to whatever is required in gles Jul 15 16:29:52 * sugardave still doesn't know how to compile C/C++ apps to run on his emulator. Jul 15 16:30:01 or write them Jul 15 16:30:03 but hey Jul 15 16:30:08 sugardave: you cant get them to run on the emulator Jul 15 16:30:20 s/emulator/device/ Jul 15 16:30:21 then Jul 15 16:30:22 :D Jul 15 16:30:24 :) Jul 15 16:30:42 digitalpowers: http://pandorawiki.org/OpenGL_ES_1.1_Tutorial -- That has some good information about using vertex arrays to do the drawing. Jul 15 16:31:05 well if you are trying and need a hand with non opengl stuff (c or sdl) i can probabably help you sugardave Jul 15 16:32:29 Robdor: sweet thanks! you seem like a knowledgeable chap, i am curious if you can shed some light on another opengl thing. What is glu and glues and are the nessisary / will glues work on webos? Jul 15 16:33:08 sugardave - do you have visual studio Jul 15 16:33:47 CTLAdvance: no, I have linux Jul 15 16:34:22 digitalpowers: thanks, if I ever get some more free time :D Jul 15 16:34:44 the hell is a logarithmic function Jul 15 16:34:45 maaaaaaan Jul 15 16:35:05 digitalpowers: glu is an extra utility library for OpenGL. I've never used it before, so I can't really say too much about it. Jul 15 16:35:16 it's awesome! Jul 15 16:35:25 it's got gluperspective and gluunproject Jul 15 16:35:54 torchie: awsome but unnessisary? or do i need to learn about it as i go? Jul 15 16:36:11 well I don't know anything about opengl ES Jul 15 16:36:18 all I know how to do is immediate mode :( Jul 15 16:36:46 torchie: non-linear, think exponential Jul 15 16:36:46 "Non-linear Think Exponential" would make a good name for a rock band. Jul 15 16:36:54 fuck off dekan Jul 15 16:37:12 maik: ... Jul 15 16:37:17 digitalpowers: It isn't necessary Jul 15 16:37:40 i will kick mike when he gets back to the office Jul 15 16:37:44 maik that is Jul 15 16:37:50 I used to know logarithms many many years ago Jul 15 16:37:58 it's scary how much math I have forgotten Jul 15 16:39:49 yeah I have a math placement test in Jul 15 16:39:51 two days Jul 15 16:40:05 because college just HAS to make your parents mad at you one more time before you leave Jul 15 16:47:14 pandora--: /ignore is your friend Jul 15 16:49:30 sorry, i think i missed a message from someone, had to restart xchat Jul 15 16:50:24 09:47 maik: pandora--: /ignore is your friend Jul 15 16:51:39 maik: that shouldn't be neccessary in this channel Jul 15 16:51:45 but thanks :) Jul 15 16:51:58 understandable, i'm just saying there are other avenues Jul 15 16:52:31 i seem to be the only one annoyed by a novelty bot spewing crap in a developer channel Jul 15 16:52:31 Bananas! Jul 15 16:52:36 sooo.. i'll shut up about it. Jul 15 16:52:40 oh dear Jul 15 16:52:40 yeah. exactly. Jul 15 16:52:56 ya, i'll figure out how to fix that Jul 15 16:53:00 i thought i had Jul 15 16:53:04 * maik pulls dekan by the ear Jul 15 17:01:16 I'm back Jul 15 17:01:20 I've seen things 0_o Jul 15 17:01:25 hrm? Jul 15 17:01:50 so... Jul 15 17:01:56 you're the inventor of pandora eh? Jul 15 17:02:53 Hey all Jul 15 17:03:07 I'm also suspicious of k-'s switch between ipv4 and ipv6 Jul 15 17:03:08 howdy botkesne Jul 15 17:03:20 There we go Jul 15 17:03:22 Omnomnom Jul 15 17:03:39 kesne: botsnack Jul 15 17:03:39 * dekan nom nom nom Jul 15 17:03:46 dekan that was for kesnebot Jul 15 17:04:31 D': Jul 15 17:04:39 I'm not kesne Jul 15 17:04:42 I'm botkesne Jul 15 17:04:44 botkesne: botsnack Jul 15 17:04:44 * dekan nom nom nom Jul 15 17:04:47 dammit dekan Jul 15 17:04:51 dekan: shut up Jul 15 17:04:52 Okay, botkesne - be back in a bit! Jul 15 17:05:06 hey k- are you a real person!? Jul 15 17:05:18 k-: herro? Jul 15 17:05:19 k- is fake Jul 15 17:05:35 k-'s a bot!!!! Jul 15 17:05:56 botnet bot, perhaps Jul 15 17:06:14 anyone manage to sync calandar with z-push? Jul 15 17:06:32 bananas Jul 15 17:06:47 bananas are good! Jul 15 17:06:49 k- Jul 15 17:07:27 k-, it seems that your IRC client has been attempting to flood the channel recently. Could you please try to do something to fix that? Jul 15 17:08:04 PUNCH IT! Jul 15 17:08:48 :O Jul 15 17:08:51 halfhalo_class: HEY! Jul 15 17:09:05 BURN IN A FIRE Jul 15 17:09:22 After you? :) Jul 15 17:11:56 :D Jul 15 17:12:20 so apparently i did turn off the random crap setting for dekan Jul 15 17:12:29 there's a separate one called bananas_chance Jul 15 17:12:56 I hate dekan Jul 15 17:13:06 dekan: kesne Jul 15 17:13:06 kesne is a damn liar Jul 15 17:13:09 oh shit Jul 15 17:13:09 D: Jul 15 17:13:12 it's naplunch time Jul 15 17:13:12 That would be a good name for a band. Jul 15 17:13:20 fixing that too Jul 15 17:14:09 thanks maik Jul 15 17:14:18 fixed Jul 15 17:14:23 thanks! :D Jul 15 17:14:26 :D Jul 15 17:14:35 That would be a good name for a band. Jul 15 17:15:08 AGH Jul 15 17:15:16 lol Jul 15 17:15:30 hmm Jul 15 17:15:35 dekan: kesne Jul 15 17:15:35 kesne is a bot Jul 15 17:16:29 dekan: are you a bot? Jul 15 17:16:29 NO! Jul 15 17:16:50 lol Jul 15 17:16:55 very definitive :) Jul 15 17:17:06 he's tricksy Jul 15 17:18:01 ahhh! opengles hates me! Jul 15 17:18:21 digitalpowers: yes, it does Jul 15 17:18:27 i set up a screen exactly as i am told to, then the first moment i call glAnything it just closes Jul 15 17:18:49 even glClearColor(0,0,0,0); the app just closes with no information as to why Jul 15 17:20:21 why doesnt it love me!? Jul 15 17:20:21 because you are unloveable digitalpowers Jul 15 17:20:49 man i feel like the bots are out to get me Jul 15 17:21:16 :( Jul 15 17:21:45 it's ok digitalpowers Jul 15 17:21:46 i feel like k- is out to get you Jul 15 17:22:28 * maik quivers in ph33r Jul 15 17:22:34 lol Jul 15 17:28:23 is there like Jul 15 17:28:44 a time today when the leaderboards are going up Jul 15 17:29:42 i figured out the problem with opengles Jul 15 17:30:02 since i am running it on windows i have to load the dgles emulator Jul 15 17:30:07 and i wasnt Jul 15 17:30:58 botsnack Jul 15 17:30:58 * dekan nom nom nom Jul 15 17:31:05 fast reflexes Jul 15 17:31:10 NOM NOM NOM Jul 15 17:32:17 ugh Jul 15 17:35:38 umm Jul 15 17:35:39 http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/07/digital-drugs/ Jul 15 17:35:44 someone write an idrug app! Jul 15 17:36:20 Hey Jul 15 17:36:27 I am bot Jul 15 17:36:30 :O Jul 15 17:37:35 GARARARARARA Jul 15 17:38:11 my webhost is down Jul 15 17:39:18 hrm Jul 15 17:39:35 great... Jul 15 17:39:43 any us updates yet? Jul 15 17:43:52 discomb0bulate: i dont think so, i havent heard/seen any Jul 15 17:43:58 yeah Jul 15 17:44:01 palmhotapps.com still same Jul 15 17:44:02 * halfhalo_class snapped and got new host Jul 15 17:44:07 what is Jul 15 17:44:08 up man Jul 15 17:44:56 digitalpowers; ah ok.. thanks.. Jul 15 17:45:52 whoops Jul 15 17:52:54 Bleh Jul 15 17:54:07 k- Jul 15 17:56:33 bloody hell Jul 15 17:56:38 lies Jul 15 17:56:51 I really hate banning people for crap like this... Jul 15 17:56:59 k-: STOP IT Jul 15 17:57:11 no response in 20 minutes, you're outta here Jul 15 17:58:49 i think his response is going to be: Jul 15 17:58:50 k- has left IRC (Excess Flood) Jul 15 17:59:11 probably Jul 15 17:59:46 ugh hes is still here Jul 15 18:00:13 lol, CTLAdvance, I am keeping him around just for you ;) Jul 15 18:01:31 heh Jul 15 18:02:40 should have taken bets on the quit msg Jul 15 18:03:19 lol Jul 15 18:04:06 damn Jul 15 18:04:12 its in so many channels now Jul 15 18:04:16 hah! Jul 15 18:04:21 internals Jul 15 18:04:32 i think it might be time to say goodbye Jul 15 18:04:45 too all our friends indeed Jul 15 18:04:46 were under attack, dkirker do something! Jul 15 18:04:51 M-I-C Jul 15 18:04:57 see ya later! Jul 15 18:04:58 dekan: attack! Jul 15 18:04:58 I'm sorry, there's currently nothing associated with that keyphrase. Jul 15 18:05:02 K-E-Y Jul 15 18:05:06 GAH! Jul 15 18:05:06 why? because we love you! Jul 15 18:05:12 M-O-U-S-EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Jul 15 18:05:24 meh.... Jul 15 18:05:29 I wanted a *user* ban... Jul 15 18:05:36 might want to notify #freenode Jul 15 18:05:53 oh wait, he's only in here, who cares Jul 15 18:05:54 if he comes back I will Jul 15 18:06:14 maybe it's the first infected person of a webos botnet worm Jul 15 18:06:20 I need to relearn the ban syntax and write a proper ban... Jul 15 18:07:24 I am bot Jul 15 18:07:36 I bet you are... Jul 15 18:07:46 * dkirker eats botkesne's bot brains Jul 15 18:07:57 mmm, botsnack Jul 15 18:08:11 dekan Jul 15 18:08:20 NOM NOM NOM Jul 15 18:08:20 * maik pokes dekan Jul 15 18:08:20 BUUUUURRRRRPPPP! Jul 15 18:08:24 hmm Jul 15 18:08:24 LOL Jul 15 18:08:30 * dkirker rofl Jul 15 18:08:40 :D Jul 15 18:09:27 ok, ok, as long as dekan doesn't respond with band name suggestions (though I think we should have a #webos band), I like him/it Jul 15 18:09:46 Uh oh Jul 15 18:09:47 s/he is the proper, non-bot-offensive term Jul 15 18:10:01 botkesne: kesne is god Jul 15 18:10:02 Factoid 'kesne' Created Jul 15 18:10:07 also, i set the chance for checking for a band name to 0, so you shouldn't see any of that Jul 15 18:10:16 botkesne: kesne Jul 15 18:10:16 Factoid: kesne is god Jul 15 18:10:24 dekan: botkesne is a damn liar Jul 15 18:10:24 Okay, maik. Jul 15 18:10:29 it did come up with a couple few random good band name ideas though Jul 15 18:10:35 ya Jul 15 18:11:18 botkesne: kesne is OH YESH! Jul 15 18:11:19 Factoid 'kesne' Already Exists kesne Jul 15 18:11:20 ah.. much better being connected here.. Jul 15 18:11:25 botkesne: forget kesne Jul 15 18:11:26 I Forgot 'kesne' kesne Jul 15 18:11:34 botkesne: kesne is OH YESH! Jul 15 18:11:34 Factoid 'kesne' Created Jul 15 18:11:38 botkesne: kesne Jul 15 18:11:39 OH YESH! Jul 15 18:13:31 grease is everywhere :/ Jul 15 18:14:23 * torchie updates Jul 15 18:14:25 * torchie refresh Jul 15 18:14:31 botkesne: kesne Jul 15 18:14:31 OH YESH! Jul 15 18:14:51 kesne: looks like you'll have something to do in portland soon Jul 15 18:14:56 botkesne: CTLAdvance is a stupid republican. Jul 15 18:14:56 Roger Jul 15 18:15:04 botkesne: CTLAdvance Jul 15 18:15:04 is CTLAdvance is a stupid republican. Jul 15 18:15:09 Darn it Jul 15 18:15:15 I broke it! Jul 15 18:15:21 HattCzech_work: Thank god... Jul 15 18:15:50 http://www.precentral.net/palm-and-hp-be-oscon2010-well-be-there-too Jul 15 18:15:54 botkesne: CTLAdvance Jul 15 18:15:57 Arg Jul 15 18:16:05 I guess I can't ask myself Jul 15 18:16:16 lol Jul 15 18:16:30 * CTLAdvance falls off chair into a pile of grease.... Jul 15 18:16:34 LOLOL Jul 15 18:16:37 crap this stuff is everywhere Jul 15 18:17:16 botkesne: CTLAdvance Jul 15 18:17:16 is CTLAdvance is a stupid republican. Jul 15 18:17:23 botkesne: blah is blee Jul 15 18:17:24 Roger Jul 15 18:17:27 botkesne: blah Jul 15 18:17:27 is most likely blah is blee Jul 15 18:17:32 WTF Jul 15 18:18:01 * CTLAdvance is about to teabag botkesne Jul 15 18:19:38 webos-internals is almost impossible to read thanks to k- Jul 15 18:19:46 What did k- do? Jul 15 18:19:58 horrible connection Jul 15 18:20:09 I love botkesne Jul 15 18:20:34 botkesne: CTLAdvance Jul 15 18:20:34 Looky here: CTLAdvance is a stupid republican. Jul 15 18:20:35 k- was a bot setup to flood the channel Jul 15 18:20:44 CTLAdvance: SHOOT HIM! Jul 15 18:20:53 ... Jul 15 18:21:04 * CTLAdvance teabags and forhead dunks on botkesne and looking at kesne for next Jul 15 18:21:27 You could tell him to forget Jul 15 18:21:31 * halfhalo_class is failing Jul 15 18:21:37 kesne you know that this is all logged Jul 15 18:21:46 Yeah, it is. and? Jul 15 18:21:48 is that a threat Jul 15 18:21:57 ...? Jul 15 18:22:03 botkesne: status Jul 15 18:22:04 In My Database There Are 5 Factoids I Have Been Awake For 16mins 34secs. My Admin Is kesne And My Master Is; . Jul 15 18:22:21 I am feeling uncomfortable in here now... dkirker can we ban kesne ip (which will also ban botkesne) Jul 15 18:22:32 D: Jul 15 18:22:38 botkesne: forget CTLAdvance Jul 15 18:22:38 SHOOT ME I FORGOT! Jul 15 18:23:05 can we just not keep playing with the bots? at least not actively in this channel? Jul 15 18:23:10 botkesne: CTLAdvance is a nice person, and a very good friend of Kesne's. Jul 15 18:23:10 Roger Jul 15 18:23:15 :) Jul 15 18:24:38 here #webos-rec for testing the bots. Just please keep it pg-13... Jul 15 18:24:58 dekan has his own channel for logging, testing and controlling Jul 15 18:25:00 i'm just saying Jul 15 18:25:02 or use #webos-test, which i use for irc related testing Jul 15 18:25:14 or even webos-test :D Jul 15 18:25:49 kesne is such a copy cat :P Jul 15 18:26:00 Good morning! Jul 15 18:26:02 How am I a copy cat!? Jul 15 18:26:07 what? Jul 15 18:26:10 who said that? Jul 15 18:26:14 Oh Jul 15 18:26:16 My bad Jul 15 18:26:23 It was all in my head Jul 15 18:26:28 copy cat Jul 15 18:27:16 how many bots are there now? Jul 15 18:27:34 well let's see, there's kesne, botkesne, dkirker...did i miss anyone? Jul 15 18:27:42 lol Jul 15 18:27:45 I'm not a bot Jul 15 18:27:47 :P Jul 15 18:27:49 chuqui! Jul 15 18:27:52 hi chuqui Jul 15 18:27:55 botkesne: chuq Jul 15 18:27:56 DERP! Jul 15 18:27:56 dekan: kesne Jul 15 18:27:56 kesne is a bot Jul 15 18:27:58 yeah that kesne bot is the worst Jul 15 18:28:09 * digitalpowers sits at the floor near chuqui to hear stories Jul 15 18:28:12 hey Jul 15 18:28:14 botkesne: chuq is hides the puppies Jul 15 18:28:14 Roger Jul 15 18:28:25 There we go Jul 15 18:28:36 really? Jul 15 18:28:37 I swear, my nick was chuckui the whole time.. Jul 15 18:29:10 can we ban bots? Jul 15 18:29:18 botkesne: die Jul 15 18:29:19 Well gosh, I dunno... Jul 15 18:29:36 for the record, dekan is not being annoying anymore Jul 15 18:29:47 botkesne only talks if you ask him to Jul 15 18:29:54 rwhitby: Whoo did you say owned infobot, and where can I find him. I am going to try to bring infobot back. Jul 15 18:29:56 ... or just ban kesne or update our phones to 1.4.5, what do you think chuqui? Jul 15 18:30:01 then we'll only need one bot... Jul 15 18:30:11 keep dekan, he's nice Jul 15 18:30:13 botkesne is an infobot Jul 15 18:30:15 botsnack Jul 15 18:30:15 * dekan nom nom nom Jul 15 18:30:17 infobot's lame Jul 15 18:30:18 I hate dekan Jul 15 18:30:23 NOM NOM NOM Jul 15 18:30:24 kesne's just jealous Jul 15 18:30:26 I try not to think. dangerous. Jul 15 18:30:29 dekan sux Jul 15 18:30:31 see, dkirker's a bot too Jul 15 18:30:36 lol Jul 15 18:30:46 or he just loves botsnacks or scoobysnacks Jul 15 18:30:57 mayyyyyybe Jul 15 18:31:18 dekan: scoobysnack is Scooobydoobydooo! Jul 15 18:31:18 Okay, Tibfib. Jul 15 18:31:29 dekan: forget that Jul 15 18:31:29 I cannot access that data. Jul 15 18:31:30 Tell that to botkesne! D: Jul 15 18:31:37 dekan: forget scoobysnack Jul 15 18:31:37 I'm sorry, there's currently nothing associated with that keyphrase. Jul 15 18:31:42 Hah Jul 15 18:31:44 botsmack Jul 15 18:31:44 OUCH Jul 15 18:31:46 See, botkesne is smart Jul 15 18:31:53 dekan: scoobysnack Jul 15 18:31:53 Scooobydoobydooo! Jul 15 18:31:58 dekan: delete scoobysnack Jul 15 18:31:59 Okay, maik, 1 factoid deleted. Jul 15 18:32:04 kesne: shut up Jul 15 18:32:05 oh, you have to delete? Jul 15 18:32:07 not forget? Jul 15 18:32:15 yeah for bucketbot that is the command Jul 15 18:32:17 'forget that' has worked before, not sure why it didn't Jul 15 18:32:22 chuqui: any news on hot apps and updates? :) Jul 15 18:32:32 now why would there be any news? Jul 15 18:32:32 dekan: foo is bar Jul 15 18:32:32 Okay, maik. Jul 15 18:32:35 dekan: forget that Jul 15 18:32:35 Okay, maik, forgot that foo is bar Jul 15 18:32:38 dekan: scoobysnack is Scoobydoobeedoo! Jul 15 18:32:38 Okay, Tibfib. Jul 15 18:32:38 * maik shrug Jul 15 18:32:47 heheh, only because the contest is supposed to start today Jul 15 18:33:02 and i just figured we'd have 1.4.5 ;) Jul 15 18:33:05 it's getting there. making sure the numbers all work. you might hear something soon. Or maybe not. you never know. Jul 15 18:33:31 so, the usual... okay Jul 15 18:33:31 well, that's helpful Jul 15 18:33:37 Jul 15 18:33:41 NOT Jul 15 18:33:50 chuqui are you responsible for the chicken egg game? Jul 15 18:33:52 :D Jul 15 18:34:01 v1.4.5 Jul 15 18:34:01 v1.4.5 is never coming Jul 15 18:34:06 scoobysnack Jul 15 18:34:06 Scoobydoobeedoo! Jul 15 18:34:13 1.4.5 s coming. that much we know. Jul 15 18:34:15 dekan: shut up Jul 15 18:34:15 Okay, kesne - be back in a bit! Jul 15 18:34:21 kesne: shut up Jul 15 18:34:27 dekan: come back Jul 15 18:34:28 Okay, Maik! Jul 15 18:34:32 Darn Jul 15 18:34:33 umm... Jul 15 18:34:46 i...i don't know what that's about Jul 15 18:34:46 I guess the m is lowercase Jul 15 18:34:55 i didn't tell him to come back, Tibfib did Jul 15 18:35:06 dekan: delete scoobysnack Jul 15 18:35:07 oh wow Jul 15 18:35:08 we also know that even if I know, I can't always say. Even if it were today. Or if it were not today. Jul 15 18:35:11 i'm all sorts of confused right now Jul 15 18:35:18 dekan: come back Jul 15 18:35:18 \o/ Jul 15 18:35:25 dekan: delete scoobysnack Jul 15 18:35:25 I cannot access that data. Jul 15 18:35:30 to sum it up Jul 15 18:35:36 botsmack Jul 15 18:35:36 * dekan cowers Jul 15 18:35:47 we still love you chuqui even if you are chained to the corporate wheel and cannot always tell us what we want to hear Jul 15 18:35:50 dekan: literal scoobysnack Jul 15 18:35:50 scoobysnack (#144) Scoobydoobeedoo! Jul 15 18:35:53 chuqui cannot confirm nor deny the even existence of 1.4.5 and if it is coming toay, or not coming today Jul 15 18:36:18 He can say it exists..hah Jul 15 18:36:19 you should be able to tell dekan to forget any factoids that aren't protected, especially ones you created Jul 15 18:36:32 dekan: forget scoobysnack Jul 15 18:36:32 I cannot access that data. Jul 15 18:36:33 * CTLAdvance likes infobot aand wishes to be able to talk aimlessly with infobot Jul 15 18:36:49 hah whatever. Jul 15 18:36:57 CTLAdvance: botkesne is an infobot Jul 15 18:37:07 botkesne: botsmack Jul 15 18:37:07 OUCH Jul 15 18:37:08 Well gosh, I dunno... Jul 15 18:37:08 i am sure it is Jul 15 18:37:09 botkesne is not a true infobot Jul 15 18:37:17 infobot is a tcl bot, iirc Jul 15 18:37:19 hahah, dekan would respond Jul 15 18:37:30 scoobysnack Jul 15 18:37:30 Scoobydoobeedoo! Jul 15 18:37:35 infobot is it's own set of perl scripts i think Jul 15 18:37:39 dekan is a bucket Jul 15 18:37:45 ya Jul 15 18:37:46 * CTLAdvance puts foot into bucket Jul 15 18:39:04 botkesne: botsnack Jul 15 18:39:04 * dekan nom nom nom Jul 15 18:39:04 Well gosh, I dunno... Jul 15 18:39:12 hahah, dekan wins Jul 15 18:39:16 dekan stole it! Jul 15 18:39:25 kekeke Jul 15 18:39:39 can either do spelling corrections? Jul 15 18:39:42 NOM NOM NOM Jul 15 18:39:46 on themselves? Jul 15 18:39:59 s/do/dooo Jul 15 18:40:09 Guess not Jul 15 18:40:54 no, that's kinda useless Jul 15 18:41:03 spammy, even Jul 15 18:41:20 * Tibfib disagrees Jul 15 18:41:38 if the people you were talking to when you typoed can't figure out what you meant by your regex you either a) suck a regex or b) need better irc friends Jul 15 18:41:48 s/a/at/ Jul 15 18:41:50 :) Jul 15 18:42:07 damn, that makes a) => at) Jul 15 18:42:33 and talking => tatlking to Jul 15 18:42:34 s/\ a\ /\ at\ / Jul 15 18:42:40 so what was that about sucking at regex? Jul 15 18:42:45 case in point Jul 15 18:42:55 you knew what i meant, and if you didn't we can't be friends anymore Jul 15 18:43:28 lol Jul 15 18:43:55 lol, this channel has gone downhill since we got the bots Jul 15 18:44:08 botwars Jul 15 18:44:18 nah, was going downhill long before that Jul 15 18:44:29 heh Jul 15 18:44:32 back in a bit Jul 15 18:44:57 dekan: kick botkesne Jul 15 18:44:57 I cannot access that data. Jul 15 18:45:02 botsmack Jul 15 18:45:02 * dekan cowers Jul 15 18:46:27 Who is dkirker Jul 15 18:46:44 I can't remember the last time whe talked about webos development Jul 15 18:46:55 he was an intern at palm and created this irc channel Jul 15 18:46:57 dkirker: is a bot, and also the lord of this channel, his op'ery knows no rival Jul 15 18:47:20 Oh, I remember now Jul 15 18:47:23 dekan: dkirker is Dirka Dirka! Jul 15 18:47:23 Okay, Tibfib. Jul 15 18:47:30 dkirker Jul 15 18:47:30 Dirka Dirka! Jul 15 18:47:36 scoobysnack Jul 15 18:47:37 Scoobydoobeedoo! Jul 15 18:47:46 hah Jul 15 18:47:53 see!? he's useful! Jul 15 18:48:00 so now if we ever say dkirker he will say dirka dirka? Jul 15 18:48:07 guess not Jul 15 18:48:09 that's good Jul 15 18:48:14 dkirker: testing Jul 15 18:48:18 dkirker Jul 15 18:48:18 Dirka Dirka! Jul 15 18:48:22 tadaaaaaa Jul 15 18:48:26 yay! Jul 15 18:48:27 * maik pats dekan Jul 15 18:48:27 * dekan purrrrrrrrrr Jul 15 18:48:50 botkesne: dkirker Jul 15 18:48:50 Dirka Dirka! Jul 15 18:48:50 Dirka Dirka! Jul 15 18:48:59 * maik sigh Jul 15 18:49:01 botkesne: botsnack Jul 15 18:49:01 * dekan nom nom nom Jul 15 18:49:01 * botkesne botsmack's dekan, and steals his lunch money. Jul 15 18:49:16 dekan: shut up for a bit Jul 15 18:49:16 Okay maik. I'll be back later Jul 15 18:49:46 botkesne: also, never use apostrophes for plurals. ever. Jul 15 18:49:47 DERP! Jul 15 18:50:11 maik: Why not? Jul 15 18:50:15 Oh Jul 15 18:50:16 Right Jul 15 18:50:36 i wasn't talking to you, bot, i was talking to your bot Jul 15 18:51:02 yo dawg, i heard you like bots with your bot so we got you this bot so you can bot while you bot Jul 15 18:51:16 i got a VERY simple opengles app running yaaay, now i just have to figure out how to do 2d games with opengl so i can has pixi Jul 15 18:51:43 Oh Jul 15 18:51:43 He's broken Jul 15 18:52:06 question: does http://silentbluesystems.com/ work for anyone? Jul 15 18:52:22 Welcome to nginx! Jul 15 18:52:25 cool Jul 15 18:52:33 just set up a new host Jul 15 18:52:37 hooray Jul 15 18:52:38 Yay! Jul 15 18:52:47 botkesne: CTLAdvance Jul 15 18:52:47 See Jul 15 18:52:47 Looky here: CTLAdvance is a nice person, and a very good friend of Kesne's. Jul 15 18:52:48 but my cahce hasn't updated apparently Jul 15 18:54:35 There we go Jul 15 18:54:39 My computer was suxing Jul 15 18:55:23 botkesne: botsnack Jul 15 18:55:23 * dekan nom nom nom Jul 15 18:55:23 OMNOMNOM. GOT DAT RITE DEKAN, IT'S MINE! Jul 15 18:56:51 dkirker: kick one of the botssss, we don't need two Jul 15 18:56:59 kick all of em Jul 15 18:57:48 *headdesk* Jul 15 19:03:54 kick dkirker Jul 15 19:05:12 WTF Jul 15 19:05:18 You're a bot Jul 15 19:06:00 ugh Jul 15 19:06:16 we don't need two bots that do the same thing, make one go away. Jul 15 19:06:25 also, I don't want bots responding to random words in the channel Jul 15 19:06:35 I can see it being abused to easily... Jul 15 19:06:48 dkirker Jul 15 19:06:48 Dirka Dirka! Jul 15 19:06:52 damn it Jul 15 19:06:59 dekan: forget dkirker Jul 15 19:06:59 Can't talk, zombies! Jul 15 19:07:00 lol Jul 15 19:07:07 heh Jul 15 19:07:13 you can tell it to shut up, no? Jul 15 19:07:17 I say ban you Jul 15 19:07:17 dekan: delete dkirker Jul 15 19:07:17 UNCAUGHT EXCEPTION: TERMINATING Jul 15 19:07:21 dekan: die Jul 15 19:07:21 Not a bloody clue, sir. Jul 15 19:07:21 dekan: shut up for a bit Jul 15 19:07:21 Okay, Tibfib - be back in a bit! Jul 15 19:07:33 now, he won't say anything Jul 15 19:07:36 thanks... Jul 15 19:08:14 botkesne doesn't say anything unless you ask him Jul 15 19:18:22 Hey all Jul 15 19:19:19 hi Jul 15 19:26:36 j #opensuse Jul 15 19:26:43 argl Jul 15 19:26:44 sorry Jul 15 19:27:42 oooo, application updates are available Jul 15 19:28:25 buying a house sucks Jul 15 19:28:36 money keeps leaving my bank acct and i have nothing to show for it (yet) Jul 15 19:28:48 you have a house :D Jul 15 19:29:04 dawm: What wasn't stickered? Jul 15 19:29:04 your very own castle Jul 15 19:29:25 kesne, i saw no stickers, so i stickered everyhting i wanted ;p Jul 15 19:29:35 dawm: Seriously? Jul 15 19:29:39 inspection went well Jul 15 19:29:53 yeah, alot of stuff was already taken so i assumed they took whatever they stickered previously Jul 15 19:31:06 just got off the phone with the bank, looks like my monthly payment (mortgage, taxes, and insurance combined) is gonna be ~520/month Jul 15 19:31:23 tahts what a craptacular apartment is around here Jul 15 19:32:31 damn, that's pretty good Jul 15 19:34:00 Dekan: hi Jul 15 19:34:00 WZUP anivrom! Jul 15 19:34:12 Ugh was hoping he wasn't around Jul 15 19:34:22 Dekan: shut up Jul 15 19:34:22 Okay, anivrom - be back in a bit! Jul 15 19:38:13 lol Jul 15 19:40:31 damn thats pretty nice Jul 15 19:41:10 i wish i paid 520 a month Jul 15 19:41:48 anivrom: dekan is a good bot now he doesnt ramble unless you talk to him Jul 15 19:42:06 Ah ok Jul 15 19:42:10 I wish I was still paying $150 a month Jul 15 19:42:23 dekan: : terribly dorry for the insult my friend Jul 15 19:42:23 Not a bloody clue, sir. Jul 15 19:43:17 Sorry too Jul 15 19:49:37 hey the website's updated Jul 15 19:50:55 Get the update yet guys? Jul 15 19:52:02 nope Jul 15 19:52:05 still no update Jul 15 19:52:07 sum ol bull Jul 15 19:52:17 so this competition's live but I can't dl the apps? or what here Jul 15 19:54:18 HEHEH Jul 15 19:56:00 Um I haven't seen any new ones so you're not missing much Jul 15 19:56:33 And kesne that was totally a serial rapists laugh.. Jul 15 19:56:58 Yes, it was ;) Jul 15 19:58:32 Was that you this morning at 9 am logging in and out as k- Jul 15 19:59:00 ? Jul 15 20:01:14 Have you guys read the official press of palms reasons why 1.4.5 was/is delayed? Nothing we didn't already know jusr more details Jul 15 20:01:36 old news ;p Jul 15 20:03:33 Dekan- sing softly to me Jul 15 20:03:49 Dekan: sing softly to me Jul 15 20:03:49 I don't know anything about that. Jul 15 20:04:14 Dekan: oh yes you do big boy ;) Jul 15 20:04:14 I don't know anything about that. Jul 15 20:04:16 there's an official press release as to why 1.4.5 was delayed ? Jul 15 20:04:38 Yes Jul 15 20:04:42 link ? Jul 15 20:05:02 Uhhhhh pandora had it linked this morning. Jul 15 20:05:08 I don't have it now Jul 15 20:05:26 Check 9amish logs Jul 15 20:07:24 All the devs that created pdk's before 1.4.5 have to change the code and resubmit lol. They couldn't get around it Jul 15 20:09:22 hrm yeah Jul 15 20:10:12 Can you link bpaladino pandora? Jul 15 20:10:14 OH SHNAP Jul 15 20:10:15 http://www.precentral.net/webos-145-bug-3d-gaming-pdk-apps Jul 15 20:10:31 botkesne: reason for delay is http://www.precentral.net/webos-145-bug-3d-gaming-pdk-apps Jul 15 20:10:31 Roger Jul 15 20:10:37 botkesne: reason for delay? Jul 15 20:10:37 Well gosh, I dunno... Jul 15 20:10:44 original link: http://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=8109 Jul 15 20:11:01 Ugh. Script kiddies :/ Jul 15 20:11:37 Write your own kesne. Then I'll be impressed.... Maybe Jul 15 20:11:48 lol Jul 15 20:11:51 :P Jul 15 20:11:54 script kiddies are funny Jul 15 20:12:01 my ip is 127.0.0.1, hack me Jul 15 20:12:06 Rofl Jul 15 20:12:13 * dkirker hacks 127.0.0.1 Jul 15 20:12:17 ooops... :( Jul 15 20:12:20 Mine is 192.168.0.1 Jul 15 20:12:37 For real Jul 15 20:12:42 mine is 1 Jul 15 20:12:51 Million Jul 15 20:12:51 ... wer are on irc, your ip's are knows to us Jul 15 20:13:07 lies Jul 15 20:13:08 irssi proxy ftw Jul 15 20:13:16 Lies! Jul 15 20:13:23 Mine is over 9000 Jul 15 20:13:46 About the size of my e-peen on inches then :) Jul 15 20:13:54 hah Jul 15 20:13:54 mine's at least 17 Jul 15 20:13:58 In? Jul 15 20:14:00 oh wow, well timed Jul 15 20:14:07 yes, my IP is 17" Jul 15 20:14:08 Rofl!!! Jul 15 20:14:21 In inches? Haha Jul 15 20:14:45 LOLOL Jul 15 20:15:25 my IP is 0x7f000001 Jul 15 20:15:48 and also 2130706433 Jul 15 20:15:55 That's actually pretty big :O Jul 15 20:16:33 mine is 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 Jul 15 20:17:11 Texting and driving is bad but noone ecer said anything about irc ;) Jul 15 20:17:31 I think that falls under the distracted driving law Jul 15 20:17:38 i think that falls under fucking stupid Jul 15 20:17:45 they just passed a no txting law while driving here Jul 15 20:17:54 they also ammended the pickup truck seatbelt law Jul 15 20:18:18 pickup trucks were still considered farm vehicles, and thus you weren't required to wear a seatbelt Jul 15 20:18:36 Lol Jul 15 20:18:39 Sweet Jul 15 20:18:48 even though for the last 20 years or so people have been using them as every day vehicles Jul 15 20:19:09 E-mail Rule #18.4: The Subject line is there for a reason. Freaking use it. Jul 15 20:19:13 no Jul 15 20:19:20 * Wolvenhaven has to wear a seatbelt the way he drives, it keeps him in the seat Jul 15 20:19:23 I'm a professional driver on 'open' course Jul 15 20:19:50 E-mail Rule #18.4.1: When you _do_ decide to use the Subject line, make it something descriptive, at least better than "?" or "!". Jul 15 20:20:31 also, whenever you email a government person, put "bomb, terrorist, gun, shooting, kill, explosion, 9/11" in there Jul 15 20:20:36 Email Rule #18.4.1.1: And for the love of crap, stop using the SAME GODDAMN SUBJECT LINE for EVERY E-MAIL YOU SEND YOUR IT PERSON! Jul 15 20:20:37 it will imediately be flagged and read Jul 15 20:20:46 did that, no longer allowed on trains Jul 15 20:22:40 Did that Jul 15 20:23:10 No longer alloowed in the united states of amerca:( Jul 15 20:23:25 wow..... Jul 15 20:23:31 dropbox files.... Jul 15 20:24:23 irc, where men are men, women are men, and children are fbi agents Jul 15 20:24:30 heh Jul 15 20:24:34 yup Jul 15 20:24:41 Question: is there any reason we can't have an ondevice coding ide and compiler? Jul 15 20:24:52 i wouldn't want to code on my phone Jul 15 20:25:00 and a compiler would take forever Jul 15 20:25:05 yeah, that seems lame Jul 15 20:25:24 now something like google's graphical android thing Jul 15 20:25:32 that lets idiots write apps, i could see that Jul 15 20:25:36 Coding on the go when you're at the doctors office... Sounds sweet Jul 15 20:25:48 ssh to a server Jul 15 20:25:49 use VI Jul 15 20:26:11 ugh.. i hate writing formal letters Jul 15 20:26:30 <----- apt linguist Jul 15 20:27:08 Wolvenhaven: hey, I will be one of those idiots of which you speak :P Jul 15 20:27:23 * sugardave doesn't do Ares. "But, I don't do Java, either." Jul 15 20:27:39 I might try it out but after reading an engadget review it sounds very limiting Jul 15 20:27:52 to me it looks just like the lego mindstorms graphical ide i played with when i was like 11 Jul 15 20:28:07 my dad ended up teaching me C and installing a mindstorms C compiler Jul 15 20:28:17 I noticed that...I have the old mindstorms and we never played with it Jul 15 20:28:19 Perfectfor taking you back then ;) Jul 15 20:28:24 I"m a bad geek dad Jul 15 20:28:59 it would be nice to have a simple gui interface designer Jul 15 20:29:05 but i still want to write the code myself Jul 15 20:29:15 i am so happy i bought an all-in-one printer on a whim a few months back Jul 15 20:29:37 printing, signing and scanning documents to email back = a godsend Jul 15 20:29:39 Um you can download your project from ares and work on it offline Jul 15 20:29:50 is it an hp dawm? Jul 15 20:30:23 no, its a canon Jul 15 20:30:25 ah Jul 15 20:30:35 but my new lcd is an HP ;p Jul 15 20:30:36 we've had 3 hp all in ones, all of them broke within 6 months Jul 15 20:30:39 I have a lexmark all in one. Very handy indeed with the scanner and such Jul 15 20:30:40 * maik gives dekan an empty bottle Jul 15 20:30:40 * dekan now contains an empty bottle. Jul 15 20:30:50 my hp all in one is now just a scanner Jul 15 20:31:05 i don't know when the last time was that i printed on my hp all in one Jul 15 20:31:06 ive been happy with this canon so far, i just wish it wasnt white Jul 15 20:31:11 racist! Jul 15 20:31:13 and of course they now sell the same one in black ;p Jul 15 20:31:30 black devices are nicer, they don't reflect all that light Jul 15 20:31:54 this one was cheap (i wanna say $40~), came with both color and black ink and the USB cable Jul 15 20:31:59 so i couldnt complain Jul 15 20:32:08 walmart FTW Jul 15 20:32:26 Walmart is sex. Jul 15 20:32:50 someone who works here bought one and it kept screwing up on them so they gave it to us to dispose of it. i took it home and found out why it wasn't working and fixed it Jul 15 20:33:03 i love being me sometimes Jul 15 20:33:04 Lol Jul 15 20:33:36 ... maik can i see you i my office Jul 15 20:33:45 i see you in my office... Jul 15 20:33:50 Day 1 of pdk hot apps and no pdk hot apps... Lol Jul 15 20:33:51 * botkesne is bored Jul 15 20:34:10 dekan: botkesne loves Apple Jul 15 20:34:10 I'm sorry, there's currently nothing associated with that keyphrase. Jul 15 20:34:16 dekan: botkesne Apple Jul 15 20:34:16 Okay, maik. Jul 15 20:34:38 discuss Jul 15 20:34:56 D: Jul 15 20:35:01 botkesne hates apple! Jul 15 20:35:26 dekan: botkesne Jul 15 20:35:26 botkesne is a damn liar Jul 15 20:35:38 dekan is a damn liar! :'( Jul 15 20:35:46 heh Jul 15 20:36:12 dekan: webos-info Jul 15 20:36:12 I do not know. Jul 15 20:36:14 bah Jul 15 20:36:49 i since possibility for infinite loop Jul 15 20:37:00 s/since/sense/ Jul 15 20:39:13 anivrom: heh Jul 15 20:40:08 i am hereby making a new word snsc which is defined as either since or sense whichever is appropriate Jul 15 20:40:28 good luck Jul 15 20:40:31 thx Jul 15 20:40:33 hello? Jul 15 20:40:38 dawm: hi! Jul 15 20:41:04 You think you're george bush? Just making up your own words and such?? Jul 15 20:41:18 !! Well do ya?? Jul 15 20:41:20 hah Jul 15 20:41:24 better than the current presedent making up states Jul 15 20:41:54 Pfft better than the current president making up laws/states/speeches Jul 15 20:42:10 BEEP BOOP Jul 15 20:42:30 at least there are around 20,000 words in the english language, there are only 50 states shouldnt be as hard to get confused Jul 15 20:42:30 hello Jul 15 20:42:34 HAI Jul 15 20:42:42 Hi Jul 15 20:46:50 my net connection took a crap for a minute.. Jul 15 20:47:26 dawm dawm dawm Jul 15 20:57:10 the BP oil spil footage is a hoax Jul 15 20:57:29 lol Jul 15 21:03:38 oh my god I just ported the core of my app's engine to webOS Jul 15 21:03:44 *celebration* Jul 15 21:04:12 gratz millenomi Jul 15 21:04:58 millenomi: pdk? Jul 15 21:05:05 dawm: why's that? Jul 15 21:05:28 dawm: was just watching it a minute ago, finally got the flow stopped (at least stopped in the camera view) Jul 15 21:05:31 pdk Jul 15 21:05:35 http://drp.ly/1naocq Jul 15 21:05:45 millenomi: hope your app doesn't need to use the file system :P Jul 15 21:05:52 heh Jul 15 21:05:56 if and when it comes out Jul 15 21:05:58 it'll be hybrid Jul 15 21:06:04 so no luck for me for now. Jul 15 21:07:01 tho I can target a **itload of other platforms with this code, verbatim Jul 15 21:07:05 so I'm not complaining :) Jul 15 21:07:14 ... what does it mean to be a channel troll? is it bad to just stay connected even if you're not currently on your computer? Jul 15 21:07:42 Porting is a discouragingly messy job I hope I never have to do. I would rather rewrite it in most cases Jul 15 21:07:52 and another random question... is it possible to export your palm pre calendar to google calendar? Jul 15 21:08:05 yeah... porting sucks balls Jul 15 21:09:34 anivrom: I spent the last three months writing a base toolkit with everything in it and no dependencies just to run this code. Jul 15 21:09:50 and no STL, 'cuz Android doesn't have that. Jul 15 21:09:56 ah, I think I found the answer to my question... sync to palm desktop and then blah blah blah, so nevermind on the calendar question :) Jul 15 21:10:19 Hi friends. I need a little help creating a calendar in Ares Jul 15 21:10:34 anyone who did this in ares before? Jul 15 21:11:25 I don't use Ares... isn't there an ares-specific chatroom? maybe not... Jul 15 21:11:45 no, i don't think so. Jul 15 21:11:47 nope, it doesn't look like it, scratch the ares chatroom Jul 15 21:11:56 :-) Jul 15 21:12:07 so you want to create a calendar view similar to the built-in calendar app? Jul 15 21:12:26 But i got it right, i must create an account before creating a calendar, right? Jul 15 21:12:37 no no Jul 15 21:12:50 i just want to add an event to the calendar Jul 15 21:12:54 oooh Jul 15 21:13:01 hmmm, lemme look into real quick... Jul 15 21:13:15 and as i understood it, i have to create an account first, then a calendar and then the event Jul 15 21:13:47 Amiroo: drag the calender service widget onto your canvas and use the api's to add a calender event.... Jul 15 21:13:49 i succeeded creating the account. first step is done ;-) Jul 15 21:14:17 anivrom: but don't i need a calnderId first? Jul 15 21:14:23 Repeating myself here. Jul 15 21:14:39 and an account before that? Jul 15 21:14:44 sorry for that :-( Jul 15 21:15:13 Its ok Jul 15 21:15:22 this ist the last step of my app and i just can't get it done :-( Jul 15 21:15:43 i get the error account was not found Jul 15 21:16:15 appamajig: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll Jul 15 21:16:24 thx pandora Jul 15 21:16:48 appamajig: not idling, but causing trouble for the sake of bothering people Jul 15 21:16:55 I'm glad I'm not a troll :) Jul 15 21:17:06 I was worried for a minute there Jul 15 21:18:00 amiroo: : google ares sample code: setting up a calendar event Jul 15 21:18:33 I can't pastelink atm Jul 15 21:18:52 google gives me code that is from scratch. not using ares widgets. Jul 15 21:19:47 and when i don't understand the code i cannot handle new events ;-) that's why i use ares Jul 15 21:20:25 but this.$.calendar1.createCalender(); is easy. but not working :-( Jul 15 21:21:07 this.$ ? Jul 15 21:22:04 ehhmmmm yes? Jul 15 21:22:36 Hmm try this.controller.get('calendar1').createCalender(); Jul 15 21:22:39 i guess i haven't done a whole lot with javascript, but this.$ seems like it should fail miserably, what's it refer to, exactly? Jul 15 21:22:54 i use this.$ all the time Jul 15 21:22:58 no problems Jul 15 21:23:04 oh cool, color me stupid then :) Jul 15 21:23:07 Miak: this.$ is ares way of saying this.controlle.get Jul 15 21:23:12 I've never seen that one lol Jul 15 21:23:13 ah Jul 15 21:23:13 this.$.account1.createAccount() works just fine Jul 15 21:23:37 ah, so it's ares-specific? Jul 15 21:23:40 anivorm: thank you. i try that Jul 15 21:24:12 I've never really understood the $ usage in JavaScript, I should look it up Jul 15 21:24:51 I tried looking it up and it doesn't make sense either. Jul 15 21:24:52 anivrom: before i try that.... actually the function call works Jul 15 21:24:56 but Jul 15 21:25:11 the onFailure handler is called Jul 15 21:25:13 I thought $ was a Prototype thing? Jul 15 21:25:27 '$' is just a valid variable name Jul 15 21:25:28 i know $('foo') is Jul 15 21:25:29 Appamajig: my understanding is its a reference to this.controller.get Jul 15 21:25:30 it can mean anything. Jul 15 21:25:32 I would think so... it seems like it can be used as some sort of shortcut or some crazy thing Jul 15 21:25:33 Warning: Service Error [object Object], palmInitFramework347:2527 Jul 15 21:25:33 NO*******{"errorCode": "ErrorGenericInvalidParameter", "errorText": "Account not found"} Jul 15 21:25:49 millenomi: ah, right Jul 15 21:26:03 "i don't understand it, let's kill it" comes to mind Jul 15 21:26:23 Amiroo: you have to supply an accound I'd. Idk how to do that thoug Jul 15 21:26:37 Accound ID Jul 15 21:27:09 maik: lol Jul 15 21:27:10 I mean name your apps account* :/ Jul 15 21:27:14 usually in ares settings section for that widget. there is a field for accountId Jul 15 21:27:34 but i think this is an ares problem Jul 15 21:27:35 :-( Jul 15 21:27:53 i don't want to code it from scratch *cry* Jul 15 21:28:05 I cant believe patents are going to be banned in new zeland Jul 15 21:28:17 I hope that doesnt spread Jul 15 21:28:36 there's some good arguments for it Jul 15 21:28:40 some patents are dumb Jul 15 21:28:44 if your not a developer yes Jul 15 21:28:50 I find it hilariously poor form to come out with an alternative IDE that drastically changes the way you code things but don't provide documentation Jul 15 21:29:08 patents are a good idea, unfortunatly governments who control them are stupid Jul 15 21:29:20 agree! Jul 15 21:29:27 Well said Jul 15 21:29:28 with anivrom Jul 15 21:29:42 Amiroo: what function is .createCalendar called from? Jul 15 21:29:48 i am for a timeline on patents so long as they are not on OS Jul 15 21:29:50 solution: "revert" to straight Mojo ;) Jul 15 21:30:07 Nevar!! Jul 15 21:30:07 what's the word with palm and the hot app competition? Jul 15 21:30:28 renegaid: did you check the blog to see if they made an announcement? Jul 15 21:30:29 from the onSuccess handler of createAccount() Jul 15 21:30:30 No word renegaid. There aren't even any new pdk aps in the cat Jul 15 21:31:02 Atleast I don't think there is word :P Jul 15 21:31:10 thanks anivrom Jul 15 21:31:29 Sugardave seems to know something I don't thoug Jul 15 21:31:37 no, I was just wondering Jul 15 21:31:46 amiroo: in some sample code I saw, when createCalendar is called, it's called with a parameter... SO you'll need something like createAccount: function(id) {........ .createCalendar(id) .......} Jul 15 21:31:47 guys Jul 15 21:31:53 I've seen the new webOS hardware Jul 15 21:31:58 it's got a 30inch screen Jul 15 21:32:01 435hp Jul 15 21:32:11 380 ft/lb torque Jul 15 21:32:24 a 4 Ghz processor Jul 15 21:32:35 "I don't care." Jul 15 21:32:36 uturbo or supercharged? Jul 15 21:32:37 it prints money Jul 15 21:32:43 it fucking prints money Jul 15 21:32:47 "I don't care." Jul 15 21:32:49 yeah, the parameters are set in Ares. AccountId, calendarId, CalendarName etc Jul 15 21:32:53 It grants up to 3 wishes Jul 15 21:32:57 anivrom: no, kompressor! Jul 15 21:33:02 Eww Jul 15 21:33:06 it has an app that calls your girfriend and talks to her for hours so you don't have to! Jul 15 21:33:07 and one of those wishes can be for an iphone 4 Jul 15 21:33:19 German technology is yucky Jul 15 21:33:19 better get it before they put in the update that doesn't let you wish for wishes Jul 15 21:33:24 did you try passing AccountID as a parameter into createCalendar? Jul 15 21:33:24 Gimme a pento, Jul 15 21:33:41 maik: i saw that on youtube! that's sooooo cool! Jul 15 21:33:50 ehhm no Jul 15 21:33:51 i lol'd so hard, going to look it up again Jul 15 21:33:53 how? Jul 15 21:34:07 anivrom: I can no longer speak to you! Jul 15 21:34:07 Cool? I thought it wss more hilarious than cool Jul 15 21:34:10 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yD-0pqZg Jul 15 21:34:28 Dohtem: awww <3 you too Jul 15 21:34:33 lol Jul 15 21:34:36 amiroo on the line that calls createCalendar put 'accountId: AccountID' in the parentheses Jul 15 21:34:49 * dohtem likes his german engineering. Jul 15 21:35:30 I hear their number system is in base 43! Jul 15 21:35:36 Wonde what apple will say tomorrow. Apparently its not a recall Jul 15 21:35:56 ok. i try that Jul 15 21:35:58 thank you Jul 15 21:36:15 no more oil leaking into the gulf Jul 15 21:36:30 from the well head Jul 15 21:36:36 there are several cracks leaking Jul 15 21:36:36 Dohtem: not base 43. 43.4532 square rooted times pi to te 56th decimal. Jul 15 21:36:38 yeah Jul 15 21:36:46 but cracks are nothing ;) Jul 15 21:36:59 it won't last Jul 15 21:37:15 anivrom: my bet is on free cheap rubber bumpers for anyone that wants one, while still claiming the problem is not widespread Jul 15 21:37:24 amiroo: keep in mind that I don't use Ares, so I don't have a clue if this has a snowball's chance in hell of working at all.. the AccountID that I put in there may not be set... and I don't know where that gets set or anything... *Shrug* I'm really just pointing you in the right direction... because I don't know how Ares handles anything Jul 15 21:37:24 because HP owns palm now does that mean the Pre can use the USB identifier of the HP iPod and sync with iTunes? that would be hilarious and nifty Jul 15 21:37:41 And they learn it by the age of 2 and buikd their first car when they are 3 months. Figure THAt one out Jul 15 21:37:44 the HP iPOD? hp makes an ipod? Jul 15 21:37:54 thank you. i appriciate that. Jul 15 21:38:11 dohtem, apple can never be wrong ever, if something doesn't work, you aren't hipster enough to understand it Jul 15 21:38:19 but no luck Jul 15 21:38:20 first time watching that Jul 15 21:38:28 this.controller.get("calendar1").createCalendar({accountId: "amiroo"}); Jul 15 21:38:36 still account no found Jul 15 21:38:42 appamajig, they did Jul 15 21:38:57 try this.controller.get("calendar1").createCalendar("amiroo") Jul 15 21:39:00 Wolvenhaven: negative. My pants are tight enough and I got more PBR in the fridge than you! Jul 15 21:40:01 dohtem: PBR=Pabst Blue Ribbon? Jul 15 21:40:06 yup Jul 15 21:40:09 lol Jul 15 21:40:19 so you drink the crappy beer? :P Jul 15 21:40:23 i want the one with the bigger GBs Jul 15 21:40:24 that's because i only drink good beers Jul 15 21:40:56 thats what hipsters drink apparently Jul 15 21:40:57 * appamajig highfives Wolvenhaven Jul 15 21:40:59 account not found :-( Jul 15 21:41:16 amiroo: hold one moment, let me research real quick Jul 15 21:41:21 Is enjoying his downtime but wishes he had his code on him to program on his pre Jul 15 21:41:27 i've got a fridge full of kasteel, guinness, baltika, innis&gunn, and krusovice right now Jul 15 21:41:31 thank you so much Jul 15 21:42:12 Are there any decent cooking apps in the Catalog? Something like the Epicurious app for iOS and Android. Jul 15 21:43:17 Did I dc? Jul 15 21:43:26 yes Jul 15 21:43:29 the grue ate you Jul 15 21:43:38 :( Jul 15 21:46:28 EmmettLollis: :!!!!!! Jul 15 21:46:30 :P Jul 15 21:46:36 anivrom!!!! Jul 15 21:46:42 Rawr Jul 15 21:46:54 Did get the cookies I sent? Jul 15 21:46:55 ooh,,, get a room you two Jul 15 21:47:18 no, i accidently did a cookie.put(null) and they're gone Jul 15 21:47:23 :( Jul 15 21:47:43 I preffer this over the last Jul 15 21:47:44 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAOtC9QfXac&NR=1 Jul 15 21:47:56 and i'm just so excited to have 1.4.5.1 on my phone Jul 15 21:48:09 Dang it.. Filled the object they were being held in with a poison array with 100 elements Jul 15 21:48:21 My plan failed Jul 15 21:48:40 I'll get you next time gadget.... Next time Jul 15 21:48:41 see... they don't need a room... they need a counselor Jul 15 21:49:06 so i've been so weak lately it's been hard to even raise my arm to keyboard level... i think i figured it out Jul 15 21:49:22 Anyone seen the episode where they actually show dr.claw? Jul 15 21:49:27 i cut too much fat from my diet Jul 15 21:49:39 Really? Jul 15 21:49:59 What's your condition again? Jul 15 21:50:06 diabetes Jul 15 21:50:26 low carb diets make your body burn fat for energy so i guess cutting too much fat is bad Jul 15 21:50:56 I jus had a convo with a stage 1 diabetic today. She was telling me the finer details of diabetes Jul 15 21:51:24 the diabetes itself isn't that bad, its the crap that goes with it Jul 15 21:51:49 like having virtualy no immune system Jul 15 21:51:54 looks like they finally stopped the oil well Jul 15 21:51:56 Are you stage 1 or 2? Jul 15 21:52:03 i'm a type 1 Jul 15 21:52:14 had a hell of an introduction to it though Jul 15 21:52:14 That sucks Jul 15 21:53:09 Yea this ladies blood sugar leve was 51 when she found out waking up from a coma. Jul 15 21:53:21 is that high or low? Jul 15 21:53:26 way low Jul 15 21:53:29 oh Jul 15 21:53:31 Average is 4-7 Jul 15 21:53:33 what's normal range? Jul 15 21:53:40 70-120 Jul 15 21:53:51 .... Jul 15 21:53:51 depending on your country Jul 15 21:54:07 different measurements Jul 15 21:54:21 Guess I am talking about a different thing then Jul 15 21:54:31 i forget how it converts Jul 15 21:54:33 I don't rememver what she called it Jul 15 21:54:58 Anyways 4-7 is normal hers was 51 hence the coma Jul 15 21:55:04 i know that below 70 is bad risk for coma and very high also Jul 15 21:55:11 sounds like she was pretty high Jul 15 21:55:23 A little lol Jul 15 21:55:40 when i went blind they tested me and it didn't give a reading it was so high Jul 15 21:55:51 So you gotta do the insulin every day with the blood prick and readings? Jul 15 21:55:53 finally came back from the lab at about 800 Jul 15 21:56:07 Yikes Jul 15 21:56:10 what you went blind? Jul 15 21:56:21 pretty much blind Jul 15 21:56:37 i mean WITH contacts i could see about 10 feet maybe Jul 15 21:56:42 that's f*%$(%! scary! Jul 15 21:56:47 driving was interesting Jul 15 21:57:05 guessing which fuzzy blob was a car Jul 15 21:57:43 dr put me on meds for it but i don't take it since i changed my diet... i've pretty well reversed my diabetes Jul 15 21:57:47 Also if you consume too muxh aspartame such as in diet coke etc. You can go blind among other things. I'm talking bottle a day for a couple years though Jul 15 21:57:50 so long as i stick to my diet Jul 15 21:58:13 i have a lot of suraclose (splenda) Jul 15 21:58:49 put about a cup of that in a half glass of whipping cream and you have diabetic ice cream Jul 15 21:58:56 Aspartame is actually a poisonious toxin Jul 15 21:59:13 i avoid aspartame, it tastes horrible Jul 15 21:59:21 Yea me too Jul 15 21:59:27 I don't like aspartame at all... gives me really wonderful gas, though Jul 15 21:59:40 Luckily I'm skinny anyways so I never need to watch ny wieght Jul 15 21:59:45 nothing like a nice, long, 10 second fart to put me in a good mood Jul 15 22:00:21 If you are farting for 10 seconds see a doctor... Jul 15 22:00:32 my health only went downhill from the blindness crap Jul 15 22:01:00 lol I'm not, actually, I just thought it sounded funny :P Jul 15 22:01:17 Lies! Jul 15 22:02:02 anivrom: could you hack the 1.4.5 update and email it to me? Jul 15 22:02:29 Um sure show me how and I'll do it Jul 15 22:02:46 lol, sorry... I lied... I admit it... I've never farted for more than about 1 or 2 second... ever... and farts, don't actually put me in a good mood.... please - don't crucify me! Jul 15 22:02:48 heh Jul 15 22:03:36 (finally, got a chuckle... I'm not as funny as I used to be) Jul 15 22:04:03 BEEP BOOP Jul 15 22:04:30 Webos-info shut up Jul 15 22:04:51 Heh kesnes bot is slightly less sophosticated Jul 15 22:06:14 Torchie: get the update yet? Jul 15 22:06:44 is it out yet? Jul 15 22:07:07 I had it yesterday Jul 15 22:07:16 And someone else said they got it too Jul 15 22:08:06 Anyhow I'll talk to you guys later. Goin into a bad reception zone Jul 15 22:08:43 has anyone heard any news about when AT&T will be updating to 1.4.5? Jul 15 22:10:04 as soon as they stop selling the iphone Jul 15 22:12:56 I'm on sprint though Jul 15 22:13:28 * sugardave blames AT&T. Jul 15 22:13:38 yeah I blame at&t for the sprint delay Jul 15 22:13:42 is it a delay? Jul 15 22:13:43 iuno Jul 15 22:16:52 sprint doesnt delay Jul 15 22:16:58 its palm or hps fault Jul 15 22:17:05 or sprint doesnt usually ever delay Jul 15 22:17:09 Verizon does Jul 15 22:17:13 er droid does? Jul 15 22:19:02 dkirker: TimRiker owns the real infobot Jul 15 22:19:37 rwhitby: Thanks again for reminding me! Does he sit anywhere in IRC? Jul 15 22:25:49 :O Jul 15 22:27:04 hHey all! Jul 15 22:27:09 is webos-info here? Jul 15 22:27:12 webos-info: ? Jul 15 22:27:12 DERP! Jul 15 22:27:17 Yep Jul 15 22:28:40 k|[: is that you, k-? Jul 15 22:33:10 Is anyone using the real time clock alarms through the palm://com.palm.power/timeout service call? Jul 15 22:34:00 lyht: I've been looking for you...and now I can't find what I wanted to show you Jul 15 22:34:07 and no to your question Jul 15 22:35:09 when the Ev symbol is there, that means you have a connection right Jul 15 22:35:15 like Jul 15 22:35:17 it is there Jul 15 22:35:23 and you should be able to connect to the internet Jul 15 22:35:24 right Jul 15 22:35:28 http://github.com/augustl/js-unzip Jul 15 22:35:34 lyht: ^^^^ Jul 15 22:35:35 and Jul 15 22:35:40 http://github.com/augustl/js-inflate Jul 15 22:36:05 sugerdav... ooooh. nifty Jul 15 22:36:11 lyht: I was able to open the zip container of a file, but could never actually process the contents Jul 15 22:36:22 but, it seems almost do-able Jul 15 22:36:25 I felt very close Jul 15 22:36:33 really? You can get in there, but not get anything out? Jul 15 22:36:55 I could process the container and get the 'table of contents' I guess you could call it Jul 15 22:37:12 but inflate wouldn't work for me...it might have been because of the actual zip contents Jul 15 22:37:21 I haven't tried with a simpler one yet Jul 15 22:38:10 very interesting. Jul 15 22:40:56 Hmm Jul 15 22:40:57 OH Jul 15 22:41:00 That reminds me Jul 15 22:41:34 LoneStar99: How goes it? Jul 15 22:41:49 Is keen-studios.net down? Jul 15 22:42:48 hpwdy kesne Jul 15 22:42:48 I first was interested in dealing with zip so I could create an e-reader that would read epub natively. Cause as far as I can tell, it is just xhtml, zipped up. Jul 15 22:43:21 keenstudios.net working here Jul 15 22:43:31 There's a dash Jul 15 22:43:32 yo Jul 15 22:43:35 keen-studios.net Jul 15 22:43:48 yeah working Jul 15 22:44:05 Are you shitting me? Jul 15 22:44:06 yeah works here, just slow Jul 15 22:44:11 Damn Jul 15 22:44:20 lyht: damn you...that's what I was doing :P Jul 15 22:44:24 Server's been getting murdered today Jul 15 22:44:33 get a vps Jul 15 22:44:39 i've been ddos'n it Jul 15 22:44:40 sugardave: Wait, is that your secret project? Jul 15 22:44:42 lyht: I think the embedded zip in the top-level one is what causes my issue Jul 15 22:44:44 halfhalo_class: I have one Jul 15 22:44:45 kesne: NO Jul 15 22:44:49 what specs? Jul 15 22:44:53 sugardave: I think it is Jul 15 22:45:07 halfhalo_class: I don't remember Jul 15 22:45:18 I can talk about my secret project now, it was/is an app to use the Freelancer.com API Jul 15 22:45:34 sugardave: :) I haven't even started on such a thing, so you are ahead of me. Jul 15 22:45:44 was? Jul 15 22:46:02 kesne: It's on the sidelines while I do this other client job Jul 15 22:46:10 Oh Jul 15 22:46:16 Anybody want in-app ads? Jul 15 22:46:18 For checkers? Jul 15 22:52:04 woo Jul 15 22:53:34 Hey Jul 15 22:53:40 I'm baaacckk Jul 15 22:54:39 hi webos-info Jul 15 22:56:50 HAI Jul 15 22:58:40 * torchie updates Jul 15 22:58:50 don't bother Jul 15 22:58:55 * torchie refrahughag Jul 15 23:08:24 cxvcbnbm,; Jul 15 23:08:50 whos got the game Blur for 360? join me gamertag biocandy Jul 15 23:16:31 Arg Jul 15 23:20:52 Var Jul 15 23:21:05 so now that they stopped the gulf oil spill are they going to let me put my cleanup plan into action? Jul 15 23:21:37 it's cheap.. all i need is a rowboat and a cigarette Jul 15 23:22:28 lol Jul 15 23:24:17 i guess i should can my oil spill tracker app Jul 15 23:25:51 lol Jul 15 23:25:52 har har har Jul 15 23:26:42 gameover man, gameover Jul 15 23:26:44 well the oil is still there, you can track it still! Jul 15 23:27:59 yeah but it would require thinking Jul 15 23:28:17 i'm not good at that Jul 15 23:28:55 maybe capping the leak is a sign that 1.4.5 is coming Jul 15 23:32:00 nope Jul 15 23:32:04 its stuck in that pipe now Jul 15 23:32:14 figures Jul 15 23:32:29 lol Jul 15 23:35:36 hmm, apple was bidding on palm Jul 15 23:36:01 but i dont understand... it's not an iphone Jul 15 23:36:19 it would have been a way to more directly compete with RIM Jul 15 23:36:44 true Jul 15 23:37:00 that and it prints money Jul 15 23:37:22 no thats the evo Jul 15 23:37:49 the pre prints money using gestures though Jul 15 23:44:08 no Jul 15 23:46:20 i never thought that i'd get my energy from drinking whipping cream Jul 15 23:46:41 i love my diet Jul 15 23:50:29 lol' Jul 16 00:10:42 damn, I think this app is done. a lot earlier than I told the dude Jul 16 00:18:01 sugardave: tell him you're behind and hold out for more money Jul 16 00:30:47 Hai Jul 16 00:32:46 meh Jul 16 00:36:17 MEH Jul 16 00:55:20 man, I love watching Wipeout Jul 16 00:56:06 whats that Jul 16 00:57:14 it's this show with these ridiculously hard obstacle courses Jul 16 00:57:19 that show is the greatest Jul 16 00:57:20 it comes on abc Jul 16 00:57:27 like unbeatable banzuki? Jul 16 00:57:33 their course is nothing compared to ninja warrior Jul 16 00:57:55 I don't know Jul 16 01:02:23 even if 1.4.5.1 is buggy with pdk Jul 16 01:02:27 i still want it right now Jul 16 01:02:46 sugardave: haha totally. that show is awesome Jul 16 01:07:34 qq for anyone who knows: how much current does the pre need to charge/how much does it use with the usb charger plugged into the wall? Jul 16 01:07:50 trying to find a comparible car charger that is cheaper than an official palm one Jul 16 01:29:28 good news, everybody! Jul 16 01:29:32 my phone is up to date Jul 16 01:30:02 with 1.4.1 Jul 16 01:30:13 lol Jul 16 01:30:36 lol Jul 16 01:47:17 if patches are ota safe, does that mean they will keep working after the latest palm update? Jul 16 01:51:13 Who's here Jul 16 01:52:58 why is dkirker always here, doesn't he have a life? Jul 16 01:53:10 never :D Jul 16 01:54:27 Ah Jul 16 01:55:32 webos-info: dkirker is a beast, and should not be messed with. Jul 16 01:55:32 Factoid 'dkirker' Already Exists kesne Jul 16 01:55:40 webos-info: dkirker Jul 16 01:55:40 Dirka Dirka! Jul 16 01:55:41 Dirka Dirka! Jul 16 01:55:42 :O Jul 16 01:55:48 webos-info: forget dkirker Jul 16 01:55:48 SHOOT ME I FORGOT! Jul 16 01:55:52 webos-info: dkirker Jul 16 01:55:53 Dirka Dirka! Jul 16 01:55:53 DERP! Jul 16 01:56:04 See, he forgot it Jul 16 01:56:06 dekan: forget dkirker Jul 16 01:56:06 I cannot access that data. Jul 16 01:56:07 but dekan didn't Jul 16 01:56:11 dekan: shut up Jul 16 01:56:11 Okay, kesne - be back in a bit! Jul 16 01:56:22 dekan: delete dkirker Jul 16 01:56:37 I don't think delete works on people Jul 16 01:56:44 Hah Jul 16 01:58:00 good evening Jul 16 02:03:41 hey Jul 16 02:06:19 hey Jul 16 02:06:20 g Jul 16 02:09:03 oh people can be deleted.. it's just a little messy Jul 16 02:09:29 discombobulate: not when you hire a professional. Jul 16 02:09:41 *pop* Jul 16 02:09:45 good point! Jul 16 02:15:05 lies? Jul 16 02:20:39 Does anyone know how to take a screen shot in the SDK emulator (1.4.1)? Jul 16 02:21:10 Xanadu: to save on the device or for some host application? Jul 16 02:21:39 Well, to take screen shots of Preware to put in the Wiki. Jul 16 02:21:49 I really don't want to totally de-patch my phone... Jul 16 02:22:09 I could just use GIMP and all, but I Jul 16 02:22:09 you can press the "host key" to unlock it from virtual box and then do your OS's regular screen capture method Jul 16 02:22:17 ... Jul 16 02:22:18 I just used standard windows screenshit, then cropped Jul 16 02:22:19 Yep Jul 16 02:22:24 oops Jul 16 02:22:25 That's what I was about to say. :-) Jul 16 02:22:26 that's what I do Jul 16 02:22:31 screenshot Jul 16 02:22:35 lol Jul 16 02:22:36 Cool. Thanx, man. Jul 16 02:24:27 Look lively everyone. Jul 16 02:24:39 Anivrom_: have you tested EFF on 1.4.5 ? Jul 16 02:24:46 hmm no Jul 16 02:24:57 want me to? Jul 16 02:24:58 Xanadu: nice work on the wiki pages, BTW. Jul 16 02:25:14 Anivrom_: sure. I've tested it on one device, but more testing is always good. Jul 16 02:25:35 Xanadu: np, I'm sure there's a way to take an "on-device" screenshot in the emu, but I don't know what it is :D Jul 16 02:25:56 rwhitby: ok give me a few months while I finish my app. i'll be quick Jul 16 02:26:03 don't move Jul 16 02:26:24 rwhitby: Thanks. It's actually kinda fun (in that geeky sort of way) Jul 16 02:26:36 That Application template is really kicking my rump. Jul 16 02:26:47 That's what's bonking the section edit things Jul 16 02:26:59 It's something in the template. I'm not 100% sure what yet. Jul 16 02:27:26 rwhitby: you mean EFV? Jul 16 02:27:29 Don't know what EFF is Jul 16 02:28:38 Curious, would I be able to get help for displaying items in a List widget? I'm using Ares.. Jul 16 02:28:49 Mmmmn beef cup-a-noodles Jul 16 02:28:57 acidhax: maybe...I think there are some Ares people in here Jul 16 02:29:22 I might blurt something out, but it will most likely only work in regular Mojo :D Jul 16 02:29:35 :P Jul 16 02:29:57 acidhax: what's the problem exactly Jul 16 02:30:03 Well, I have a file with json formatted contents Jul 16 02:30:31 continue Jul 16 02:30:59 Anivrom_: http://forums.precentral.net/showthread.php?p=2556103 Jul 16 02:30:59 hrm Jul 16 02:31:02 I don't see a method of specifying the items in a list widget for Ares Jul 16 02:31:07 ah Jul 16 02:31:52 well Jul 16 02:32:07 if it's alreayd formatted the list widget has a property called items which accepts a json file Jul 16 02:34:39 rwhitby: I supposed it's out of the question to try and convince "The Powers That Be" to add Collapsible Tables to Common.js? http://worms2d.info/Worms_Knowledge_Base:Common.js Jul 16 02:36:10 rwhitby: mount: mounting /dev/mappter/store-root on / failed: Device or resource busy Jul 16 02:41:08 Xanadu: I have no idea what you're talking about tehre. Jul 16 02:41:21 Anivrom_: preware or WOSQI? Jul 16 02:41:31 wosqi Jul 16 02:41:37 use preware Jul 16 02:41:37 wasnt showing up in preware. Jul 16 02:41:45 testing feed Jul 16 02:41:52 I have all feeds on :P Jul 16 02:42:00 orly? Jul 16 02:42:02 and updated today Jul 16 02:42:12 But it's prolly me being over smart Jul 16 02:42:16 what's the URL of your testing feed Jul 16 02:42:19 Checking again Jul 16 02:42:26 1 min booting up preware. Jul 16 02:42:43 which takes about 10 minutes....... :P Jul 16 02:42:47 The Verison of MediaWiki that is being used doesn't nativly support Collapsible Tables (good for the Changelog). Ya know, to expand on contract LONG lists. Jul 16 02:44:46 HEY Jul 16 02:45:44 HI Jul 16 02:45:45 Oh hullo thur! Jul 16 02:46:23 dekan: hi Jul 16 02:46:23 Hello, digitalpowers! Jul 16 02:46:48 Anyone know the syntax to get the width property of an html element / widget? Jul 16 02:48:25 this.controller.get(element).width ? Jul 16 02:48:52 I will certainly give it a shot but for some reason I think ares is gonna rip my head off Jul 16 02:49:16 would it be this.$.controller.get in Ares Jul 16 02:49:20 in Ares, can't you just do this.$... Jul 16 02:49:21 I DON'T KNOW!!! Jul 16 02:49:34 It would but it's not recommended to use that syntax anymore Jul 16 02:49:40 this.controller.get works fine Jul 16 02:49:58 developing for webos is driving me mad from all the different syntaxes Jul 16 02:50:01 as a substitue Jul 16 02:50:04 substitute Jul 16 02:50:29 well you can change it width with this.controller.get(element).style.width = newwidth; Jul 16 02:51:47 gdnight folks Jul 16 02:51:55 night **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Jul 16 02:59:56 2010