**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jul 17 02:59:56 2010 Jul 17 03:24:14 hello all looking for some coding help with ares Jul 17 03:27:23 ? Jul 17 03:27:27 help Jul 17 03:31:28 basm: If you state your question, somebody may see it and might be able to help you. Jul 17 03:32:19 basm msg me in pm Jul 17 04:00:07 BEEEEEEEEP Jul 17 04:00:37 dkirker Jul 17 04:00:37 Dirka Dirka! Jul 17 04:01:15 dekan: delete dkirker Jul 17 04:01:15 I do not know. Jul 17 04:01:25 dekan: dkirker is not dirka Jul 17 04:01:26 Please don't edit your own factoids, dkirker. Jul 17 04:01:48 dekan: don't talk to me that way! Jul 17 04:01:48 A thousand apologies, effendi, but I do not understand. Jul 17 04:03:05 uh oh.... Jul 17 04:04:27 scoobysnack Jul 17 04:04:27 Scoobydoobeedoo! Jul 17 04:04:39 botsnack Jul 17 04:04:39 * dekan nom nom nom Jul 17 04:04:42 NOM NOM NOM Jul 17 04:04:52 wtf Jul 17 04:05:04 dekan is annoying Jul 17 04:05:08 lol Jul 17 04:05:08 He just buts into things Jul 17 04:05:11 dkirker Jul 17 04:05:11 Dirka Dirka! Jul 17 04:05:17 SEE! Jul 17 04:05:22 webos-info: dkirker Jul 17 04:05:22 Dirka Dirka! Jul 17 04:05:22 Hah, that's easy, dkirker is a god-like figure. He is the admin of the world, and should not be messed with. Jul 17 04:05:41 dekan: shut the hell up Jul 17 04:05:41 UNCAUGHT EXCEPTION: TERMINATING Jul 17 04:05:45 good Jul 17 04:05:48 dkirker Jul 17 04:05:48 Dirka Dirka! Jul 17 04:06:07 dekan: shut up forever Jul 17 04:06:07 I do not know. Jul 17 04:06:15 dekan: go away Jul 17 04:06:15 Okay, dkirker - be back in a bit! Jul 17 04:06:38 SEE! Jul 17 04:06:41 bots shouldn't speak unless directly spoken to. Jul 17 04:06:41 webos-info is a good bot! Jul 17 04:06:47 webos-info: botsnack Jul 17 04:06:47 OMNOMNOM. GOT DAT RITE DEKAN, IT'S MINE! Jul 17 04:06:49 :) Jul 17 04:06:56 Like my bawt! Jul 17 04:07:02 back to coding this website... Jul 17 04:07:24 Heh Jul 17 04:07:27 I hate 1&1 Jul 17 04:07:42 anybody who is using them: switch before it fucks up Jul 17 04:08:26 I use my own host. 2 servers in my bedroom. :) Jul 17 04:08:32 Nice Jul 17 04:08:37 Dedicated IP? Jul 17 04:08:41 yeah Jul 17 04:08:45 i have many hosts Jul 17 04:08:47 and I pay for it, dearly... Jul 17 04:08:53 hehe Jul 17 04:08:58 I wish I was my own host Jul 17 04:09:00 one local, on vps, one superone Jul 17 04:09:06 The only issue is that I leave way too much Jul 17 04:09:15 I could probably convert my hosts to VMs at work. Jul 17 04:09:15 I have a VPS Jul 17 04:10:39 but for some reason I thought that having the online services hosted on my regular hosting is better Jul 17 04:10:41 Which it isn't Jul 17 04:10:57 1&1 just hijacked all external mySQL connections Jul 17 04:23:25 kesne: haha everyone but you loves dekan Jul 17 04:23:38 dkirker doesn't Jul 17 04:23:42 dkirker Jul 17 04:23:42 Dirka Dirka! Jul 17 04:23:59 kesne: yes, but no one likes webos-info but you Jul 17 04:24:12 I would love dekan if it would stop saying DIrka Dirka after my nick is pinged... Jul 17 04:24:18 Heh Jul 17 04:24:25 dekan: forget dkirker Jul 17 04:24:25 Beeeeeeeeeeeeep! Jul 17 04:24:25 webos-info is nice! Jul 17 04:24:32 dkirker Jul 17 04:24:32 Dirka Dirka! Jul 17 04:24:34 delete not forget Jul 17 04:24:36 dekan: dkirker is not Dirka Dirka Jul 17 04:24:36 Okay, Tibfib. Jul 17 04:24:40 dkirker Jul 17 04:24:40 Dirka Dirka! Jul 17 04:24:48 dekan: delete dkirker Jul 17 04:24:48 Okay, digitalpowers, 2 factoids deleted. Jul 17 04:24:55 botsnack Jul 17 04:24:55 * dekan nom nom nom Jul 17 04:25:00 dkirker Jul 17 04:25:04 finally!! Jul 17 04:25:05 dkirker Jul 17 04:25:08 YAY! Jul 17 04:25:24 thanks!! Jul 17 04:25:30 dkirker: can he stay now? Jul 17 04:25:40 dkirker: maik made you admin over the bot i think, you should be able to issue him any command you want Jul 17 04:25:49 Tibfib: I had no problem with him before. :) Jul 17 04:26:01 dkirker: cool Jul 17 04:26:04 What about webos-info!?!?! Jul 17 04:26:24 My job isn't to sit here and police bots. Unless things go way out of hand. So, if I make any statements on it, those are my personal opinions. Jul 17 04:26:29 i think you should even be able to tell him to die, although i havent tried because it is hard to start him back up Jul 17 04:26:52 dkirker: what is your opinion on webos-info? Jul 17 04:27:18 Not sure that webos-info has been around long enough for me to hold an opinion on it. Jul 17 04:28:05 I have no problem with it, though. Jul 17 04:28:07 It's been around almost as link as dekan Jul 17 04:28:28 can either do seen? Jul 17 04:28:32 seen maik Jul 17 04:28:35 dekan: seen maik Jul 17 04:28:35 I cannot access that data. Jul 17 04:28:43 webos-info: seen maik Jul 17 04:28:44 Well gosh, I dunno... Jul 17 04:28:51 lol Jul 17 04:28:52 botsmack Jul 17 04:28:52 OUCH Jul 17 04:29:22 i only have a grudge against webos-info because it frustrates kesne that i do :) Jul 17 04:30:31 D': Jul 17 04:30:42 :D Jul 17 04:31:13 Finally 1&1 decides to start working Jul 17 04:31:22 and of course my entire website foes offline for it. Jul 17 04:31:49 hmmm, shouldn't I be able to specify a "nonstandard" port in my Ajax request, like http://host:port ? Jul 17 04:32:10 In theory Jul 17 04:43:43 OH MAN Jul 17 04:44:31 halfhalo: ping Jul 17 04:47:39 halfhalo: DID YOU HEAR HIM?! HE SAID PING! Jul 17 04:50:46 I guess he didn't hear me Jul 17 04:50:47 :( Jul 17 04:51:25 I have this simple example of an http server with node.js that responds when you point a browser at it, but in my ajax request all responses are null Jul 17 04:51:29 what type of bot is dekan? Jul 17 04:52:20 no one knows? Jul 17 04:52:29 dekan: dekan? Jul 17 04:52:29 Beeeeeeeeeeeeep! Jul 17 04:52:36 hld up ill brb Jul 17 04:52:48 dekan: is a bucket bot Jul 17 04:52:48 Error at 0x08: Reference not found Jul 17 04:53:28 which is xkcd's bot Jul 17 04:54:01 ok, sugardave whats up? Jul 17 04:54:32 halfhalo: thanks, so I'm just barely beginning to play with node, and I'm using the simple http server hello world example Jul 17 04:54:39 it's working, etc. Jul 17 04:54:57 so I figured I'd go to Mojo and see if I can get the response there Jul 17 04:55:18 what url are you trying to get Jul 17 04:55:23 I just get back a blank responseText and error 400 Jul 17 04:55:34 it's a local http://192.168.1.7:5555 Jul 17 04:55:41 and /etc/hosts on the emu is correct Jul 17 04:55:47 I can go there with the Pre browser Jul 17 04:55:53 oh, try method :get in the app Jul 17 04:56:01 have that Jul 17 04:56:08 oh, wait Jul 17 04:56:12 maybe it's parameters Jul 17 04:57:29 no, that's not it, it's like Ajax says "oh not port 80, fuck you!" Jul 17 04:57:57 hmmm… mebe? Jul 17 04:58:02 Ajax is mean Jul 17 04:58:21 ChanServ! Jul 17 04:58:23 halfhalo: have you tried getting a Mojo app to do ajax to a node.js server? Jul 17 04:58:26 How's it going ChanServ? Jul 17 04:58:45 yes, but I ran it off port 80 Jul 17 04:58:51 ah Jul 17 04:59:10 Hey everybody! Jul 17 04:59:13 did you set anything other than Content-Type? Jul 17 04:59:24 1 minute till kense gets kicked Jul 17 04:59:37 lol Jul 17 04:59:41 nope Jul 17 04:59:44 :O Jul 17 04:59:49 Why would you kick kesne? Jul 17 04:59:58 Only dkirker can do that! Jul 17 05:00:03 *sigh* Jul 17 05:00:12 30 seconds... Jul 17 05:00:16 halfhalo: will see if it works on 80, that will suck Jul 17 05:00:22 kesne: please pick a nick and keep to it. Jul 17 05:00:38 well, he chose a registered nick Jul 17 05:00:44 thank you. Jul 17 05:00:46 itl either kick him or change it Jul 17 05:00:53 kesne is my registered nick Jul 17 05:00:59 sugardave: pastebin your server Jul 17 05:01:14 $20 says I can stay on oiI for more than 1 minute Jul 17 05:01:55 I raise to $40, go! Jul 17 05:02:06 lol Jul 17 05:02:14 As long as you don't kick me dkirker Jul 17 05:02:15 hahaha Jul 17 05:02:26 :P Jul 17 05:02:27 Watch Jul 17 05:02:35 Waiting waiting. Jul 17 05:02:39 i have been thinking the bots need the ability to respond to someone op'ing up, like cower or something Jul 17 05:02:53 Haha Jul 17 05:02:56 That'd be cool Jul 17 05:03:19 halfhalo: http://webos.pastebin.com/sGEHsE2B brb Jul 17 05:03:19 Let me see if I can get my mIRC bot to do it Jul 17 05:03:39 hahaahah Jul 17 05:04:11 haha Jul 17 05:04:18 NOT COOL Jul 17 05:04:21 dkirker: JERK Jul 17 05:04:37 botsnack Jul 17 05:04:37 * dekan nom nom nom Jul 17 05:04:46 :'( Jul 17 05:04:59 we still love you kesne Jul 17 05:05:16 dkirker kicked me, so i still win Jul 17 05:05:17 right? Jul 17 05:05:19 right... Jul 17 05:05:40 no i think no ... Jul 17 05:05:41 sry Jul 17 05:06:01 :'( Jul 17 05:06:08 dkirker: can I please try that again? Jul 17 05:06:12 without you kicking me? Jul 17 05:06:16 no Jul 17 05:06:26 D': Jul 17 05:06:46 I'll just wait till you leave Jul 17 05:06:51 When does the dkirker bot leave? Jul 17 05:06:58 I'm not going to op up again. I actually shouldn't have to, ever. I would like to see this chat room remain mature. Jul 17 05:07:13 We are mature! Jul 17 05:07:17 It was immature to kick me Jul 17 05:07:19 bull Jul 17 05:07:20 shit Jul 17 05:07:30 halfhalo: shhhh Jul 17 05:07:35 Not when you are changing nicks to oil and oil_... Jul 17 05:07:51 I used oiI Jul 17 05:07:55 The l is an uppercase I Jul 17 05:08:00 So i didn't steal nicks Jul 17 05:08:09 webos-info: are we mature Jul 17 05:08:09 Hah, that's easy, are we mature is YES! Jul 17 05:09:17 webos-info: are we mature? Jul 17 05:09:18 YES! Jul 17 05:09:22 There we go! Jul 17 05:11:11 I think that I am done with this website for now... Jul 17 05:11:19 Good for you :) Jul 17 05:11:31 rather, I am done with HTML and CSS for the evening. :( Jul 17 05:11:43 ewww Jul 17 05:11:44 html Jul 17 05:11:55 thats like crap Jul 17 05:12:13 lol Jul 17 05:23:51 halfhalo: it's definitely not a port thing, it returns status 0 and blank responseText on 80, as well Jul 17 05:24:09 do you have a demo app I can use to test? Jul 17 05:25:00 yay!! 10:24p Jul 17 05:25:02 howdy bos Jul 17 05:25:37 halfhalo: sure...been using eclipse for a bit, so not sure where (or if) it keeps ipks like komodo did Jul 17 05:26:09 i always manually run palm package for it Jul 17 05:26:55 got it Jul 17 05:27:18 what email? Jul 17 05:28:56 who wants to test an IM in a week? Jul 17 05:29:36 halfhalo: ^^^ Jul 17 05:29:41 lol Jul 17 05:29:56 patrick at silentbluesystems dawt com Jul 17 05:31:00 so no one? Jul 17 05:31:10 eh Jul 17 05:31:16 halfhalo: sent, thanks Jul 17 05:31:41 waiting…. waiting…. waiting.... Jul 17 05:33:05 need to test the system in 7 days, anyone interested diegoATearthoid.com Jul 17 05:33:40 stiiiil waiting Jul 17 05:33:58 damn, I sent it from gmail Jul 17 05:34:05 I think they have pretty good servers Jul 17 05:34:19 its going to a gmail account as well... Jul 17 05:34:51 would like feedback from the folks that drive WebOS Jul 17 05:35:04 if i have time, sure LoneStar99 Jul 17 05:35:34 .... Jul 17 05:35:38 stiiiiiilllll waitin Jul 17 05:35:46 maybe I'm spam Jul 17 05:35:47 :O Jul 17 05:35:55 already looked, not there Jul 17 05:36:06 LoneStar99: ask me again when it gets closer to time Jul 17 05:36:55 thanks excited Jul 17 05:37:03 sugardave: try sending it to other @ silentbluesystems dawt com Jul 17 05:37:28 maybe it got stuck in the pipes going to first email Jul 17 05:37:56 alrighty Jul 17 05:39:18 would folks pay $1.99 an IM? Jul 17 05:39:25 i wouldn't Jul 17 05:39:39 not with the default im client being so good Jul 17 05:41:17 this IM has no connections with others Jul 17 05:41:17 sugardave: send it? Jul 17 05:41:24 halfhalo: yeppers Jul 17 05:41:35 how big is it? Jul 17 05:41:39 8K Jul 17 05:41:52 straight ipk? Jul 17 05:41:55 yeah Jul 17 05:42:00 thats it Jul 17 05:42:03 gmail do like it Jul 17 05:42:09 oh, need to zip it, huh Jul 17 05:44:07 the system will have a sleep mode Jul 17 05:44:16 halfhalo: okay, now that should work Jul 17 05:44:20 hello all does anyone know how to parse inrequest.responsetext using ares? Jul 17 05:44:35 unless they don't like .gz Jul 17 05:44:57 lo! Jul 17 05:45:08 hello maik Jul 17 05:45:14 not seeing it... Jul 17 05:45:18 basm: sorry, I don't do Ares Jul 17 05:45:18 what the helll..... Jul 17 05:45:23 jeezus are you serious? Jul 17 05:45:48 ok, new email. proberts @ pcgamingcorner dawt com Jul 17 05:45:56 NOT a gmail Jul 17 05:47:09 alright sent Jul 17 05:47:15 THERE we go Jul 17 05:47:31 why the hell are the others not working.... Jul 17 05:48:04 halfhalo: all that does is dump the response object to the log Jul 17 05:48:15 oh son of a bitch..... Jul 17 05:48:30 mx server got reset Jul 17 05:48:35 ooops Jul 17 05:52:00 anyone know how to implement encyption for javascript based on skype code? Jul 17 05:53:18 what I know about encryption could fill a thimble Jul 17 05:53:58 a thimble with holes! Jul 17 05:54:50 i have no clue either Jul 17 05:56:14 digitalpowers: hi Jul 17 05:56:25 my emu be messed up... Jul 17 05:56:51 kill it Jul 17 05:56:57 dekan: hello Jul 17 05:56:57 WZUP maikPre! Jul 17 05:57:12 * maikPre pats dekan Jul 17 05:57:12 * dekan purrrrrrrrrr Jul 17 05:57:23 maikPre: howdy, why no compie tonight? Jul 17 05:57:30 its a black screen… but its flickering tot he normal palm backgrund and whatnote Jul 17 05:57:49 playing poker with roomies Jul 17 05:58:06 I crashed bell again Jul 17 05:58:13 maikPre: lame Jul 17 05:58:20 maikPre: yeah i fixed the bug Jul 17 05:58:30 yay Jul 17 05:58:32 halfhalo: my server pastebin is wrong because I was trying something, the content type should be text/plain I guess Jul 17 05:58:39 poker is fun Jul 17 05:58:55 it's 3g Jul 17 05:59:01 and has the wifis Jul 17 05:59:04 reversed engine: http://cryptolib.com/ciphers/skype/ Jul 17 06:00:09 oh dear... Jul 17 06:05:50 sugardave: i think the server is to stupid to respond….. but i gotta play with it more Jul 17 06:06:34 halfhalo: sure, I'm going to mess with it a bit, but it's not driving me that hard at the moment Jul 17 06:06:43 just odd Jul 17 06:07:01 well, if you were going to run an http server off of it you would use router or something like that Jul 17 06:07:05 soo much easier Jul 17 06:07:19 router....module? Jul 17 06:07:24 yeah Jul 17 06:07:33 goodnight folks. Jul 17 06:07:37 I really wanted to use it to throw back JSON Jul 17 06:07:51 it should Jul 17 06:07:54 but figured a plaintext response was low-hanging fruit Jul 17 06:08:04 its weird Jul 17 06:09:27 i threw up an instance on my real server as well Jul 17 06:09:30 seems to work Jul 17 06:09:39 really Jul 17 06:09:44 http://silentbluesystems.com:8124/ Jul 17 06:11:40 hmmm, I still get null body and status 0 on that Jul 17 06:12:06 laters bros going to hit the haystack Jul 17 06:12:29 herm Jul 17 06:13:17 oh! oh! seems like my email is back up! Jul 17 06:14:07 halfhalo: I'm going to upgrade my SDK tomorrow and see if that magically fixes something Jul 17 06:20:10 this no email is pissing me off Jul 17 06:21:37 gararara Jul 17 06:22:00 fa ra ra ra ra Jul 17 06:22:21 how does lady gaga like her steaks? Jul 17 06:22:41 raw raw ah ah ah Jul 17 06:22:42 pink in the middle? Jul 17 06:23:23 get him hard, show him what i got Jul 17 06:35:29 pie Jul 17 06:36:26 oh say can you see Jul 17 06:36:35 because imcant Jul 17 06:37:40 stupid ipad Jul 17 07:43:38 halfhalo: it's f-ing Prototype Jul 17 07:43:46 with xmlhttprequest it works Jul 17 09:36:07 hello all. Jul 17 13:01:23 hey Jul 17 13:03:27 swisstomcat! whats up? Jul 17 13:03:34 hey Jul 17 13:03:42 got back from a 1 week vacation Jul 17 13:06:13 I'm halfway home from a 1 week vacation Jul 17 13:06:26 about 8 hours by car today and it's over Jul 17 13:08:09 in fact, I've gotta run. Time to hit the road. Jul 17 16:22:59 how the hell do you delete memos Jul 17 16:23:14 nvmd Jul 17 16:32:27 happy saturday everyone Jul 17 16:34:52 hehe yea it is Jul 17 16:34:59 my beer making equipment got here this morning :P Jul 17 16:35:15 fun fun, are you going to write a webos app to help brew? Jul 17 16:35:42 i'm still working on my organization app Jul 17 16:35:48 plus i know nothing about brewing :P Jul 17 16:36:01 i might once i understand all of it Jul 17 16:37:00 sounds like fun Jul 17 16:37:30 yea, and in about 6 months i'll be making money :P Jul 17 16:37:43 cause making my own beer is going to save me a ton of money Jul 17 16:37:54 hahahaha Jul 17 16:56:57 Hey all Jul 17 16:57:02 webos-info: Hello! Jul 17 16:57:03 DERP! Jul 17 16:57:10 Ah, webos-info Jul 17 16:57:50 Where is CTLAdvance when I need him Jul 17 17:22:12 sugardave: lol Jul 17 17:22:36 sugardave: then the server is to basic for the ajax stuff methinks. Jul 17 17:27:32 :O Jul 17 17:27:41 webos-info: kesne Jul 17 17:27:41 OH YESH! Jul 17 17:29:19 webos-info: botsnack Jul 17 17:29:19 * dekan nom nom nom Jul 17 17:29:19 OMNOMNOM. GOT DAT RITE DEKAN, IT'S MINE! Jul 17 17:29:49 webos-info: botsmack Jul 17 17:29:49 * dekan cowers Jul 17 17:29:50 HAHA! Dekan just got owned! Jul 17 17:29:56 :D Jul 17 17:52:28 halfhalo: that's lame....I don't know what else Ajax class does. it sucks because it kind of defeats the purpose of sending back JSON, since I have to eval it anyway Jul 17 17:53:40 im thinking a more thorough version of the server would work Jul 17 17:54:01 I don't know...it doesn't even seem to know that a connection is trying to be made Jul 17 17:54:20 I guess I could futz around with a net object instead Jul 17 17:54:46 i gotta look into it more Jul 17 18:12:08 afternoon folks Jul 17 18:13:01 anyone have strong opinions on a good laptop for under 700? Jul 17 18:13:17 hp refused my warranty :( Jul 17 18:13:28 didn't you tell them who you are? Jul 17 18:13:51 well, ya, and they were like Jul 17 18:14:15 "here, just take this free computer" Jul 17 18:14:32 and I was like"nah I'll just go buy one" Jul 17 18:14:36 heh Jul 17 18:14:52 well, I'm pretty happy with this Asus, last of the core 2 duos Jul 17 18:14:58 it was about $850 though Jul 17 18:15:21 hmm Jul 17 18:15:37 I really did like my hp Jul 17 18:15:49 I got it in March, prices may have come down a bit with i5 and i7 out Jul 17 18:16:20 ya, I saw a samsung with i5, bluray, for 750 Jul 17 18:16:33 cool Jul 17 18:16:52 I don't know if I can swing 750 right now though Jul 17 18:17:07 get an app out there ;) Jul 17 18:17:08 I may have to visit acer land Jul 17 18:17:15 heh Jul 17 18:17:28 hard to get my apps up with no comp Jul 17 18:17:54 library -> public terminal -> Ares -> profit Jul 17 18:18:01 lol Jul 17 18:18:50 I may just go on a starbucks rampage and come away with 4 or 5 macbooks Jul 17 18:18:55 nyce Jul 17 18:18:59 ha Jul 17 18:19:06 I have a macbook now but I'm like Jul 17 18:19:12 dead set on a thinkpad as my next laptop Jul 17 18:19:25 I can't afford a mac Jul 17 18:19:35 neither can I! Jul 17 18:19:37 nobody can Jul 17 18:19:39 heh Jul 17 18:19:46 (yet I'm going for the X series) Jul 17 18:19:57 plus, I don't have a vw bug Jul 17 18:20:10 don't think they'd let me get one Jul 17 18:20:15 no one can afford that level of smugness, whether they think they can or not Jul 17 18:20:28 solar powered macbook in a hybrid VW bug Jul 17 18:20:35 heh Jul 17 18:20:38 lol Jul 17 18:20:41 drinking soy lattes from an eco-friendly reusable mug Jul 17 18:20:49 yes Jul 17 18:20:51 and Jul 17 18:21:18 you have to show that you protested the world bank at least once Jul 17 18:21:35 you know, people love our banks Jul 17 18:21:44 I always felt that our bank lied at the crossroads Jul 17 18:21:46 at the g8 conference Jul 17 18:21:48 of liberal arts and technology. Jul 17 18:22:43 my brain hurts....why the hell would regular xmlhttprequest work when ajax request does not Jul 17 18:22:46 it makes no sense Jul 17 18:23:00 you gotta blog about ur protest on ur comp that was built by an 8 year old girl in china Jul 17 18:23:04 You have to use a porcelain coffee cup for like 10 years for it to be more environmentally friendly than using styrofoam cups Jul 17 18:23:46 Amaranth: yeah, well try fending off an attacker with your eco-killing styrofoam coffee cup and get back to us Jul 17 18:23:56 stainless steel mug = eco friendly. mining ore is great for the environment Jul 17 18:24:20 screw eco friendly, that shit right there is durable Jul 17 18:24:24 plastic is like Jul 17 18:24:25 whaaaaaat Jul 17 18:24:48 starbucks uses cardboard. they can't stop my attack Jul 17 18:25:18 what, they gonna chase me with their electric cars? Jul 17 18:25:29 vroom vroom Jul 17 18:25:30 I mean Jul 17 18:25:33 ............... Jul 17 18:25:38 I gotta suv, I'll go into the woods Jul 17 18:25:44 thinkpad Lol series Jul 17 18:26:41 I really need one of those $3000 tablets for school Jul 17 18:27:08 but I doubt they'll buy me one Jul 17 18:27:15 SDL 12 works fine in my application, except that SDL_GL_CONTEXT_MAJOR_VERSION comes back undefined Jul 17 18:27:16 library -> public terminal -> Ares -> profit Jul 17 18:27:35 Does anyone know if I need a different version of SDL, or if something else causes that problem? Jul 17 18:27:53 sugardave: but ares doesn't work on IE6 Jul 17 18:27:54 can I make a free boobs app at the library? Jul 17 18:28:01 Amaranth: dammit Jul 17 18:28:14 netscape Jul 17 18:28:33 library -> public terminal -> FF on thumbdrive -> Ares -> profit Jul 17 18:28:35 there Jul 17 18:28:37 that's better Jul 17 18:28:41 hehe Jul 17 18:29:48 as long as I can run finale and adobe audition at the same time, I don't care what kind of comp it is.. Jul 17 18:30:36 o ya, I gotta broadcast wirelessly to a projector to Jul 17 18:30:37 o Jul 17 18:30:58 BigBiff: Ok for that you'll need a 17" with a Core i7 and 8GB of RAM Jul 17 18:31:08 perfect Jul 17 18:31:10 Oh, and a mobile version of the nvidia quadro Jul 17 18:31:19 Should cost you about $4000 Jul 17 18:31:35 where do I sign? Jul 17 18:31:44 Oh, you mean I don't get a commission? Buy an AMD powered 11.6" netbook Jul 17 18:32:21 i am just getting started with twitter. if someone sends a message to someone you are following i also receive it? Jul 17 18:32:21 You said you just need them open at the same time, right? You don't actually have to USE them, do you? Jul 17 18:32:31 hehe Jul 17 18:33:39 protection plan. yay or nay? I got screwed on my last one Jul 17 18:34:29 (of course I did disassemble it to clean the fan/heatsink) Jul 17 18:35:47 Deihmos: not automatically, only if the person you are following "re-tweets" it Jul 17 18:36:13 it should have "RT" at the beginning somewhere if it was retweeted Jul 17 18:36:21 note that I suck at Twitter Jul 17 18:36:34 really confusing if you ask me Jul 17 18:36:50 * BigBiff doesn't do any social networking Jul 17 18:36:55 Deihmos: if you don't mind me asking, how old are you? Jul 17 18:36:57 retweet, mention all sorts Jul 17 18:36:58 there aren't really messages in twitter Jul 17 18:37:00 I'm curious Jul 17 18:37:03 except direct messages Jul 17 18:37:18 why do you ask Jul 17 18:37:22 i am old enough Jul 17 18:37:28 crunchbang linux looks kinda cool Jul 17 18:37:34 I'm 37 and Twitter confused/confuses the shit out of me Jul 17 18:37:39 seeing if it's an age thing Jul 17 18:37:53 I always thought it was old people who understood twitter fastest Jul 17 18:37:55 it is confusing. not staright forward at all Jul 17 18:37:59 like when I was 16 I was like "wtf is this" Jul 17 18:38:04 "this is not facebook" Jul 17 18:38:10 "why is it here" Jul 17 18:38:20 i am 30 Jul 17 18:38:27 30's = old? Jul 17 18:38:27 but now I'm 17 and tweet hard Jul 17 18:38:28 not an age thing Jul 17 18:38:32 king tut died at 19 Jul 17 18:38:37 I may kill myself Jul 17 18:38:37 anything past 18 is old Jul 17 18:38:43 lol Jul 17 18:38:47 adults are obsolete children Jul 17 18:38:52 there is a learning curve plus i never bothered with it until now Jul 17 18:39:12 the thing about twitter is that Jul 17 18:39:14 it's where the gods convene Jul 17 18:39:22 65 is ol Jul 17 18:39:38 torchie: I usually just call people Jul 17 18:39:48 :p Jul 17 18:39:54 Does anyone here use SDL? Jul 17 18:39:56 phones? way too high tech for me man Jul 17 18:40:00 usually I just walk to their house Jul 17 18:40:06 heh Jul 17 18:40:07 if they have air conditioning I leave as quickly as possible Jul 17 18:40:27 "retirement age" is old, but since this is the last generation of people who will get some sweet government retirement cheese, nobody will ever be old again Jul 17 18:40:40 old is dead Jul 17 18:40:53 sdl? that's one o them fancy computer things aint it? Jul 17 18:41:03 http://crunchbanglinux.org/wiki/_media/screenshots/9.04-dyne-theme.png?cache=cache Jul 17 18:41:06 I just Jul 17 18:41:08 kind of want this Jul 17 18:41:16 oooo, I know that acronym: simple directmedia layer Jul 17 18:41:19 ta da! Jul 17 18:41:28 simple derp layer Jul 17 18:41:48 Palm's example uses a SDL_GL_CONTEXT_MAJOR_VERSION property to define when you wish to use OpenGL ES 1.1 instead of 2.0 Jul 17 18:41:53 * swisstomcat is 37 and i use twitter a lot Jul 17 18:41:55 But that property doesn't appear to be in SDL 1.2 Jul 17 18:42:13 hi swisstomcat Jul 17 18:42:16 Is everyone using SDL 1.3, or is everyone just using OpenGL 2.0, so they don't have this problem? Jul 17 18:42:20 hi sugardave Jul 17 18:42:38 twitter has become my main tool of focused information Jul 17 18:42:49 elyon: no clue, but is the difference between 1.1 and 1.2 such that you HAVE to use that? Jul 17 18:42:49 probably depends who you follow Jul 17 18:43:06 tweet hard bro Jul 17 18:43:25 @twtomcat btw :) Jul 17 18:43:31 @cf_torchie Jul 17 18:43:32 * torchie ducks Jul 17 18:43:45 It doesn't compile if I use OpenGL 2.0 Jul 17 18:43:51 Because the code is all OpenGL 1.1 Jul 17 18:44:50 oh, it's SDL at 1.2, nevermind Jul 17 18:44:54 I will just confuse the issue more Jul 17 18:45:24 apparently palm's sdl is between 1.2 and 1.3 Jul 17 18:45:40 1.25 Jul 17 18:46:09 WOO Jul 17 18:46:12 I think I may have found a way around it ... Jul 17 18:46:29 I edited SDL_video.h and added the property myself Jul 17 18:46:33 Ugh, I hate this show Jul 17 18:46:36 Dumb degrassi Jul 17 18:47:24 dumbgrassi Jul 17 18:47:25 Amaranth: you sell computers? Jul 17 18:47:36 BigBiff: No, was a joke :) Jul 17 18:47:42 (So no, I can't get you a deal) Jul 17 18:48:02 heh, just noticed the 'commission' remark Jul 17 18:50:17 Frustrating Jul 17 18:50:31 I follow Palm's example exactly, and SDL always comes back with the same error Jul 17 18:50:36 "Couldn't find matching EGL config" Jul 17 18:51:00 SDL without OpenGL works okay, but I would imagine OpenGL is a lot faster Jul 17 18:51:16 elyon: pastebin? Jul 17 18:51:28 What is your SetVideoMode call doing? Jul 17 18:52:03 screen = SDL_SetVideoMode(0, 0, 0, SDL_OPENGL); Jul 17 18:52:38 hrm, are you doing any SDL_GL calls before this? Jul 17 18:53:39 Let me check Jul 17 18:55:12 http://pastie.org/1048690 Jul 17 18:55:18 That's the bare bones sample of what I'm doing Jul 17 18:55:23 Like Palm's example Jul 17 18:56:16 elyon: it's the depth and stencil size Jul 17 18:56:45 They need to match bpp but you're letting the SDL library automatically determine bpp so that's not going to be possible Jul 17 18:58:02 actually just get rid of the stencil size, we don't have a stencil buffer Jul 17 18:58:07 elyon: ^ Jul 17 18:58:14 So if I tried SDL_SetVideoMode (0, 0, 16, SDL_OPENGL), it might work? Jul 17 18:58:21 Maybe Palm's example is out of date :) Jul 17 18:59:09 So do I need to set r, g, b and depth size before setting the video mode? Jul 17 18:59:15 Or can I leave those out and let it be automatic? Jul 17 18:59:25 Palm's example doesn't setup a depth or stencil buffer and uses OpenGL ES 2.0 Jul 17 18:59:25 Palm's sexample doesn't setup a depth or stencil buffer and uses OpenGL ES 2.0 Jul 17 18:59:35 wow Jul 17 18:59:40 what the... Jul 17 18:59:46 God Jul 17 18:59:50 jinx Jul 17 18:59:59 When will 1&1 stop screwing me in the ass Jul 17 19:00:02 elyon: If you're doing 2D drawing just leave all of that out Jul 17 19:00:11 http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1979&Itemid=337 Jul 17 19:00:32 elyon: Well that's just weird Jul 17 19:00:57 elyon: I'm actually sure if the depth buffer needs to match, try just commenting out the stencil buffer line Jul 17 19:01:19 but you don't need (or generally want) a depth buffer when doing 2D drawing Jul 17 19:01:31 What about SDL_GL_DOUBLEBUFFER? Is that important? Jul 17 19:01:48 I include it but I don't know that it's needed Jul 17 19:01:59 I think you really only need that stuff to be portable Jul 17 19:02:10 the calls to set the color sizes and such Jul 17 19:02:38 Woo!! Jul 17 19:02:41 For doing 2D drawing where you only care about webOS just the call to set ES 1.x or 2.0 should be enough Jul 17 19:02:42 Looks like its working now Jul 17 19:02:48 halfhalo: so, an Ajax request will fire the connect event on a tcp socket from node.js Jul 17 19:02:53 freaking bizarre Jul 17 19:02:53 I left out the depth and stencil attributes Jul 17 19:03:05 I just set the major version, then set the video mode with all zeros Jul 17 19:03:48 Hmm, interesting Jul 17 19:04:06 Although my timer and events only seem to be firing when I tap the screen, rather than continuously Jul 17 19:04:26 What does your mainloop look like? Jul 17 19:04:44 You need to loop forever and inside that loop have another loop on SDL_PollEvent Jul 17 19:05:14 but the main loop forever loop is the one that should do your drawing and such, the inner loop should only handle input Jul 17 19:05:38 It looks like this Jul 17 19:05:39 http://pastie.org/1048699 Jul 17 19:05:59 (I didn't write it, but this runs on iPhone and Android okay) Jul 17 19:07:14 ah, trying to get haxe running Jul 17 19:07:56 well, I don't see anything obviously wrong Jul 17 19:08:01 Hey, I've got my project (as simple as it is) up and running Jul 17 19:08:03 I can see it now Jul 17 19:08:25 It's funny, though ... because sometimes I launch it, and it runs okay Jul 17 19:08:31 Other times the animation didn't occur Jul 17 19:08:42 I just realized that tapping it prompts the animation to happen Jul 17 19:09:05 Now that its running GL instead of only SDL, it seems to reliably be the second scenario Jul 17 19:09:16 Creepy Jul 17 19:09:22 I just saw a mouse pointer in my app Jul 17 19:09:29 Somehow Jul 17 19:10:03 Huh. Oh, I see ... it's under my finger Jul 17 19:10:13 I'm going to have to do something about that Jul 17 19:10:56 That's a common technique, they tell SDL to hide the cursor then on motion events blit the cursor at the x,y coords in the event Jul 17 19:11:11 So you can have a custom cursor image Jul 17 19:11:24 I see Jul 17 19:11:31 So look for code that handles SDL mouse motion events Jul 17 19:11:41 What would be a nice string to search for? Jul 17 19:11:48 "Cursor"? Jul 17 19:12:20 elyon: SDL_MOUSEMOTION Jul 17 19:14:13 how does one enter a tilde in terminal on pre? Jul 17 19:15:22 krushia_: one doesn't, apparently Jul 17 19:15:54 now imma sad panda :( Jul 17 19:17:35 Great! The cursor is gone. Thank you! Jul 17 19:17:47 Now to just figure out whats up with my loop ... Jul 17 19:17:56 krushia: ask in #webos-internals? Jul 17 19:18:10 This is fun, though! Way better than sorting out "undefined reference" errors and never knowing if the thing is actually going to ever run ;) Jul 17 19:18:19 I really miss the treo kb symbol menus Jul 17 19:21:41 Now that's very weird Jul 17 19:21:58 I put a "Hello World" printf statement in my main loop, to see if it was executing ... Jul 17 19:22:07 But it only did it once, as I exited the app Jul 17 19:22:21 Is that how printf statements work, or is my main loop not being called? Jul 17 19:22:41 elyon: Sounds like something in the loop is blocking Jul 17 19:22:59 It starts like this Jul 17 19:23:09 void MainLoop () { printf ("Hello World!"); Jul 17 19:23:17 I had to go double check to make sure you weren't using SDL_WaitEvent instead of SDL_PollEvent, that's the most obvious one Jul 17 19:23:24 elyon: Oh, you didn't call it inside the loop Jul 17 19:23:34 While sdl_pollevent? Jul 17 19:23:42 No, while (!sgDead) Jul 17 19:23:54 Oh, I see Jul 17 19:24:01 It isn't called repeatedly, like an event handler Jul 17 19:24:03 Also, if that only printed when you exited the app that sounds like something is getting called _before_ you call MainLoop and blocking Jul 17 19:24:04 It's called once Jul 17 19:24:06 okay Jul 17 19:24:39 Right, an event handler needs and main loop, MainLoop runs yours Jul 17 19:24:48 s/and/a/ Jul 17 19:26:10 Hmm, that doesn't seem right Jul 17 19:26:20 I put it in the first while statement (!sgDead) Jul 17 19:26:33 And when I exited, I had 7 "hello world" statements Jul 17 19:26:50 I left it running for a few seconds. I would think a while loop would call more times than that Jul 17 19:27:21 I just left it running for longer, and it seems to have called the same number of times Jul 17 19:27:46 elyon: Sounds like your timer sleep stuff is messed up Jul 17 19:28:13 Or you told it you wanted 4fps Jul 17 19:28:18 hah :) Jul 17 19:28:31 Well, I would think that this isn't affected by the timer stuff, right? Jul 17 19:28:52 I have void MainLoop () { while (!dead) { printf ("Hello World"); } } Jul 17 19:28:54 Basically Jul 17 19:29:19 sugardave: lol Jul 17 19:29:24 So it should be calling it on every "while" iteration, right? It hasn't gotten to the point where its deciding whether to procoess events or not Jul 17 19:29:28 The bit with the timer is trying to sleep until either a set time has passed or it gets an event Jul 17 19:29:53 Comment it out, your app will run at like 500 fps and chew CPU but you can at least see if that is the problem Jul 17 19:29:59 Would that cause the main loop to not execute? Jul 17 19:30:00 okay Jul 17 19:30:08 From double next to the end of the if block there Jul 17 19:31:05 That section seems full of crazy, really Jul 17 19:32:08 If that is your problem replace it with if (next > 0.001) { SDL_Delay (next*1000.0); } Jul 17 19:35:04 Okay, I'll try that out Jul 17 19:35:26 elyon: Comment it out first and if that makes the problem go away try replacing it with that code Jul 17 19:35:31 and let me know if that works :) Jul 17 19:37:26 Okay, cool! Jul 17 19:37:41 Yeah, maybe Palm is automatically sleeping? Jul 17 19:37:49 To limit the number of events, and improve performance? Jul 17 19:38:03 So sleeping twice over might not work well. Or maybe it was getting an undefined reference of some kind Jul 17 19:38:26 Commenting that all out makes it run, but it looks reliable ... it doesn't look like its calling my enter frame handlers way too often Jul 17 19:39:12 Maybe I'll just leave this wrapped with a #ifndef PALM #endif for now, then deal with it later if its executing too often? Jul 17 19:40:57 oo Jul 17 19:41:03 Looks like my project was set to 0 FPS Jul 17 19:41:07 Maybe it is working right ;) Jul 17 19:41:15 I'll see if changing my FPS fixes it Jul 17 19:42:04 Yup. Funny Jul 17 19:42:31 How would I set a background color? Jul 17 19:42:46 Is that a property when you configure the video mode, or do you need to draw it yourself if you don't like white? Jul 17 19:43:53 elyon: glClearColor Jul 17 19:46:09 elyon: Also I'd make it #ifdef WEBOS, otherwise people may think you mean PalmOS Jul 17 19:46:59 Hmm, that's a good point Jul 17 19:47:11 Although I think a lot of people think its still called Palm OS Jul 17 19:47:22 Now what is the iPhone OS called? Jul 17 19:47:26 iPhone OS? Jul 17 19:49:01 iOS? Jul 17 19:49:15 pieOS is better Jul 17 19:50:19 I wonder if they'd sue if I came out with a jPhone Jul 17 19:50:31 yPhone? Jul 17 19:50:42 y i phone Jul 17 19:51:11 Awesome, so now I can start working on my app instead of the framework Jul 17 19:51:38 Next step, physaxe Jul 17 20:08:07 dekan: good morning Jul 17 20:08:07 good morning digitalpowers Jul 17 20:38:14 dekan: die Jul 17 20:38:14 Beeeeeeeeeeeeep! Jul 17 20:38:28 dekan: hi Jul 17 20:38:28 Hello, appamajig! Jul 17 20:53:42 Hey, when you test C++ applications ... Jul 17 20:53:54 Do you have a build process so you test it on your computer first, then test on the device? Jul 17 20:54:02 Or do you always test on the device? Jul 17 21:14:57 greetings Jul 17 21:15:10 hi EmmettLollis Jul 17 21:15:19 hi dkirker Jul 17 21:15:36 its time for me to come up with a new app Jul 17 21:15:57 EmmettLollis: did you just finish one? Jul 17 21:16:12 Anyone have the foggiest idea why my cookie.get() returns nothing? Jul 17 21:16:26 cookie doesn't exist yet? Jul 17 21:16:28 haven't touched anything since Slimphoria Jul 17 21:16:34 it exists Jul 17 21:16:52 it hates you? Jul 17 21:16:53 are you creating/opening it before you call get? Jul 17 21:16:55 The problems I've had with cookies are ... Jul 17 21:16:59 bad data type ... Jul 17 21:17:03 too big of a cookie ... Jul 17 21:17:16 an array with too many levels Jul 17 21:17:20 my biggest cookie problem is they make me fat Jul 17 21:17:21 var cookie = new Mojo.Model.Cookie("petDB"); Jul 17 21:17:21 cookie.put("hi"); Jul 17 21:17:26 you can always use my bakery example Jul 17 21:17:49 hmm, looks like you should be able to get the data Anivrom Jul 17 21:17:55 do you have any other cookies? Jul 17 21:17:56 var cookie = new Mojo.Model.Cookie("petDB"); Jul 17 21:17:56 cookie.get(); Jul 17 21:17:57 I ended up creating a model which wraps the cookie API, because I was having so much trouble with cookies coming back corrupted Jul 17 21:18:08 in a separate functino Jul 17 21:18:33 looks like it should work... i know sometimes there are naming issues with cookies Jul 17 21:18:49 this.MsgBind.update(cookie); outputs to a label which ends up blank Jul 17 21:18:53 What happens if you do cookie.put ( { value: "hi" } ) Jul 17 21:19:22 are you logging the value of your cookie.get? maybe the label just isn't reading correctly Jul 17 21:19:28 http://webos101.com/Mojo.Cookie#A_Cookie_Bakery_Example Jul 17 21:21:54 sugardave: where can i download your cookie bakery app? i'm getting hungry Jul 17 21:22:06 mmm, cookies Jul 17 21:22:20 oh wait i can't have carbs Jul 17 21:25:05 i need some disco music so i can make my dancing bobblehead jesus app Jul 17 21:33:21 sugardave: so in the example code you provided, I would be changing the values of the dough property of aCookie and baking, in order to save my cookie? Jul 17 21:33:41 Still learning Javascript so that code is abit roundabout for me Jul 17 21:34:13 Anivrom: yeah, it's a wrapper, but that is the size of it Jul 17 21:39:30 you guys will laugh at this http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs188.snc4/37757_1449302667442_1079472750_31301217_4658289_n.jpg Jul 17 21:59:42 hello friends! Jul 17 22:32:04 http://twitpic.com/265vub Jul 17 22:33:34 torchie: my phone gets better reception when I hold it differently :/ Jul 17 22:33:48 Of course that's only at work where I get 1-2 bars Jul 17 22:36:41 so, anybody else besides me and halfhalo messing around with Mojo and node.js? Jul 17 22:37:01 no Jul 17 22:37:10 we're the only ones Jul 17 22:37:14 scary Jul 17 22:37:39 theres like two others that arnt here Jul 17 22:37:43 but i was the first Jul 17 22:37:44 /win Jul 17 22:37:49 heh Jul 17 22:37:54 I will be Jul 17 22:38:12 When I figure out how to use sql in 3 years Jul 17 22:38:51 you can always get inefficient sql statement advice in here Jul 17 22:39:12 yay Jul 17 22:40:41 Mojo and node.js? madness! I've looked a bit at node.js, mainly trying to figure out what it is. Jul 17 22:41:20 dpivs: well, it's supposed to be an easy to use (haha) server-side javascript environment Jul 17 22:41:28 * halfhalo has peanuts Jul 17 22:41:34 haeffb_pre: hola Jul 17 22:42:09 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Jul 17 22:42:11 sugardave Jul 17 22:42:12 dpivs: it gives a nice library for managing http-style requests. Jul 17 22:42:13 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Jul 17 22:42:29 * haeffb_pre 1 hour from home Jul 17 22:42:39 sugardave: ALL libraries are like that. its stupid easy Jul 17 22:42:52 but, it seems that Mojo's Prototype Ajax request doesn't seem to trip the connect event for the http object Jul 17 22:43:05 so, no love from Ajax and node.js Jul 17 22:43:33 http://forum.notebookreview.com/what-notebook-should-i-buy/500674-help-me-please-my-wife.html#post6481245 someone posted this "great story.. so what would you like me to do with her in bed?" in that thread. just lok at the thread title Jul 17 22:44:14 sugardave: var query = { Jul 17 22:44:14 'limiters': [{ Jul 17 22:44:14 'column': 'userId', Jul 17 22:44:14 'operand': '=', Jul 17 22:44:14 'value': 1 Jul 17 22:44:15 }] Jul 17 22:44:15 }; Jul 17 22:44:17 oops Jul 17 22:44:37 What exactly are the parameters doing? Jul 17 22:44:50 http://forum.notebookreview.com/hardware-components-aftermarket-upgrades/500773-stacking-ram.html op should be shot Jul 17 22:47:37 Anivrom: that's building a query object to pass to table.get_selectSql() Jul 17 22:47:51 ok so whats with the operand and value? Jul 17 22:48:04 why do I have to supply that to the query? Jul 17 22:48:30 it's going to make an SQL statement like SELECT * FROM table WHERE userId = 1; Jul 17 22:48:53 * Anivrom watches as sql lingo flies over his head Jul 17 22:48:53 you don't have to supply a limiters array unless you need to limit the select in some way Jul 17 22:49:04 otherwise it will just return all the records from the table Jul 17 22:49:27 Ok so what would be the simple usage to say extract a name or age from the database? Jul 17 22:49:28 eatin' time...bbiab Jul 17 22:49:31 blah Jul 17 22:49:32 ok Jul 17 22:51:34 Anivrom: I find it easier to not use sugardave's db library Jul 17 22:51:38 lol Jul 17 22:51:55 What's easiest then for a person that's never used databases. Jul 17 22:51:58 but that's just me... Jul 17 22:52:58 hang on... Jul 17 22:54:13 * haeffb_pre bootin up laptop & aircard Jul 17 22:54:19 :D Jul 17 22:56:37 hola! Jul 17 22:56:45 bonjour Jul 17 22:58:11 wheres the webos101 for databases? Jul 17 22:58:56 I showed it to him Jul 17 22:58:58 http://webos101.com/Mojo_Database_Helper_Objects That's what sugardave gave me Jul 17 22:59:05 he pooh-poohed it Jul 17 22:59:12 I gave you both :P Jul 17 22:59:24 http://webos101.com/Mojo_Storage_Database Jul 17 22:59:41 hrm Jul 17 23:00:24 haeffb is my foe, therefore he refuses to see the brilliance in the helper objects Jul 17 23:01:26 * haeffb just uses the basic stuff Jul 17 23:01:45 [17:59] http://webos101.com/Mojo_Storage_Database Jul 17 23:02:06 why pooh-pooh? Jul 17 23:02:35 17:18 * Anivrom slashes wrists after first snippet Jul 17 23:02:40 rgr Jul 17 23:02:55 still bleeding too Jul 17 23:02:58 fyi Jul 17 23:03:24 no, no, it's not as hard as it looks Jul 17 23:03:43 must…resist….joke... Jul 17 23:04:39 it's harder Jul 17 23:04:46 that's what she said Jul 17 23:04:48 hahaha Jul 17 23:05:31 it starts gettign really hard once you get into it :O Jul 17 23:06:29 just take it a bit at a time Jul 17 23:06:47 er...a snippet at a time Jul 17 23:07:12 what is Anivrom wanting to do? Jul 17 23:07:24 haeffb: home? Jul 17 23:07:31 save my settings to a file Jul 17 23:07:34 20 minutes Jul 17 23:07:37 It's a bit bigger than 4k though Jul 17 23:07:49 I might actually try the depot again. Jul 17 23:07:51 how much bigger? Jul 17 23:08:01 not too much bigger. Jul 17 23:08:09 no more than 1 mb Jul 17 23:08:11 split it into two cookies Jul 17 23:08:14 or three or four Jul 17 23:08:17 hmm Jul 17 23:08:21 I thought it was 4k total Jul 17 23:08:23 haeffb: I think cookie storage is total Jul 17 23:08:44 I don't think so...or I'm really pushing the limit. Jul 17 23:08:55 hmm Jul 17 23:09:24 The Cookie object is limited to about 4K, while the Depot and HTML 5 objects can store up to 1 MB (or more, if you use the media partition). Jul 17 23:09:43 Limited to about 4k in storage, the cookie is passed as a single JSON object to the application and stored within a backing database. Jul 17 23:09:49 Hmmm Jul 17 23:10:23 well, I'm only about 2k Jul 17 23:10:53 I'd suggest trying 2 cookies first before tackling SQLite Jul 17 23:11:17 if it don't work, then move on Jul 17 23:11:38 I don't have all my data in place though so It's currently not more than 4k but it could very well be Jul 17 23:11:39 but I could write you something pretty quick that would store a "cookie" in a SQLite db... Jul 17 23:11:43 in the future* Jul 17 23:12:05 but I don't know when I'll have a half-hour to do it & test. Jul 17 23:12:19 but that would be a good 101 snippet Jul 17 23:12:22 I'll try the cookie first and depot second. Jul 17 23:12:25 in the future, we'll all have flying cars Jul 17 23:12:28 Then sql last Jul 17 23:12:45 meh, sqlite before depot I always say Jul 17 23:12:45 conventional wisdom is skip depot Jul 17 23:12:49 elyon: Can you upload your port to github or something? Jul 17 23:13:31 depot = all the headache of asynchronicity, but none of the control of sqlite Jul 17 23:14:53 what's the benefit of depot over sqlite? any? Jul 17 23:15:35 * BigBiff can use sqlite, which means it must be simple Jul 17 23:16:33 btw, just went to bestbuy... Jul 17 23:16:42 BigBiff: depot is supposed to be a simple wrapper for sqlite and lets you throw an object at it for storage, but I don't think you can issue specialized statements against it Jul 17 23:16:43 good to know Jul 17 23:16:47 never used it, so I can't say for sure Jul 17 23:17:01 I hate bestbuy. Jul 17 23:17:05 ahh Jul 17 23:17:35 so it's suppsed to make it simpler Jul 17 23:17:38 right Jul 17 23:17:40 hmm Jul 17 23:17:58 i thinbk it's like key = object Jul 17 23:18:00 store Jul 17 23:18:01 and get Jul 17 23:18:10 something like that Jul 17 23:18:30 maybe I'll learn it Jul 17 23:18:34 one day Jul 17 23:18:54 if you already know sqlite, don't bother, I'd say Jul 17 23:19:59 http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1857&Itemid=246 Jul 17 23:20:07 dekan: depot is http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1857&Itemid=246 Jul 17 23:20:07 Okay, haeffb. Jul 17 23:20:15 depot Jul 17 23:20:19 dekan: depot Jul 17 23:20:19 depot is http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1857&Itemid=246 Jul 17 23:20:51 webos-info: depot is http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1857&Itemid=246 Jul 17 23:20:51 Roger Jul 17 23:21:22 webos-info: dekan is a better bot Jul 17 23:21:22 Roger Jul 17 23:21:28 webos-info: dekan Jul 17 23:21:28 Doh, I guess dekan is a better bot Jul 17 23:21:38 webos-info: perfect Jul 17 23:21:39 DERP! Jul 17 23:21:40 webos-info: shut uo Jul 17 23:21:41 Well gosh, I dunno... Jul 17 23:21:46 NAO Jul 17 23:24:50 brb driving wife to laundry :P Jul 17 23:26:54 damn, you can't /msg dekan new factoids? Jul 17 23:27:48 * haeffb home!!! time to unpack. bbl. Jul 17 23:28:21 brb Jul 17 23:46:48 Amaranth: I'm going to have my changes merged with the hxcpp repository when the major issues are sorted out Jul 17 23:47:15 elyon: sure but you can tar up what you have now or something? I want to play with it :) Jul 17 23:47:27 Amaranth: It's running GL, but only a simple bouncing ball example. Two other examples are failing, so I need to sort out what's up Jul 17 23:47:41 s/play with it/help you/ Jul 17 23:48:40 Amaranth: Okay, maybe I will. Are you on the Palm forums? I can PM you if I get something uploaded Jul 17 23:48:50 elyon: Yeah, I'm amaranth :) Jul 17 23:49:15 okay, cool Jul 17 23:49:33 * Amaranth goes back to writing his Pen class Jul 17 23:49:43 Gotta have a fallback if haxe is too much fail :) Jul 17 23:50:01 jhbwsxz Jul 17 23:56:44 Amaranth: Get in line buddy I asked first :P Jul 17 23:57:04 I was actually looking at porting it before I saw someone else was doing it on the forums Jul 17 23:57:15 You guys should collab then Jul 17 23:57:31 Guess that someone was elyon considering I helped him get the setup and mainloop sorted then the person on the forums posted an update saying it was working :) Jul 17 23:59:04 crap forgot my coffee in my car :( Jul 17 23:59:09 afk Jul 18 00:02:24 anyone here on Windows and have the IE9 preview? Jul 18 00:02:41 I haven't opened IE in years literally. Jul 18 00:02:47 if so, can you open http://gamehaxe.com/wp-content/physaxe/js-web/physaxe-js.html and tell me how many FPS you get when you press 5? Jul 18 00:14:33 heh Jul 18 00:14:49 getting 5-6 on me pre :p Jul 18 00:15:24 Hmm how would one point to a function in the stage assistant global declarations section on a callback bind? Jul 18 00:15:25 db = new Mojo.Depot({name:"petDB", version:1, estimatedSize:25000, replace: false}, Jul 18 00:15:25 this.dbOpenOK.bind(this), this.dbOpenFail.bind(this)); Jul 18 00:18:09 Hey all! Jul 18 00:18:17 :) Jul 18 00:18:23 kesne: 12jtor? Jul 18 00:18:34 12jtor? Jul 18 00:19:06 35tto ins ro lol. slr stuff eh Jul 18 00:19:34 ? Jul 18 00:19:40 true true Jul 18 00:19:44 Anvirom may be possessed.. Jul 18 00:19:51 Hmm Jul 18 00:19:54 he may be, but anivrom isnt Jul 18 00:20:16 him too Jul 18 00:20:23 webos-info: Anivrom Jul 18 00:20:23 Looky here: Anivrom is possessed. Jul 18 00:22:51 webos-info: botsnack Jul 18 00:22:51 * dekan nom nom nom Jul 18 00:22:51 OMNOMNOM. GOT DAT RITE DEKAN, IT'S MINE! Jul 18 00:23:42 heh, Wipeout is on again Jul 18 00:25:17 Hmm how would one point to a function in the stage assistant global declarations section on a callback bind? Jul 18 00:25:25 db = new Mojo.Depot({name:"petDB", version:1, estimatedSize:25000, replace: false}, Jul 18 00:25:25 this.dbOpenOK.bind(this), this.dbOpenFail.bind(this)); Jul 18 00:27:47 Anivrom: change this.dbOpenOK or this.dbOpenFail to the name of the global function Jul 18 00:28:54 those are the global functions, I will be initializing the db from outside the stage assistant though Jul 18 00:29:19 so i'm thinking its something like stageassistant.dbOpenOk.bind(this) Jul 18 00:29:26 idk though Jul 18 00:30:21 I think I should make a rumor site for Keen Studios Jul 18 00:30:47 I'd just make them like var dbOpenOk = function(){...} in the stage assisant and then use dbOpenOk.bind(this) Jul 18 00:30:56 webos-info is gonna be gone for a week Jul 18 00:31:03 D: Jul 18 00:31:49 bros Jul 18 00:31:59 So if I declare a var above the constructor it can be accessed across the whole app by simply calling its name? no this. or anything? Jul 18 00:32:00 is there anyway to use my pre as a wifi hotspot Jul 18 00:33:04 yea Jul 18 00:34:19 my tether Jul 18 00:35:26 oh really Jul 18 00:35:32 so there is actaully a use for that app Jul 18 00:35:36 i bought it a long time ago Jul 18 00:35:41 but it was garbage Jul 18 00:35:46 Anivrom: yeah, if it's declared with 'var' Jul 18 00:35:49 you paid for it Jul 18 00:35:56 sugardave: ok thanks. Jul 18 00:37:06 wtf.. for some reason 2 links arent working as they should but all other links in the scene (its just a straight html scene) work Jul 18 00:38:04 does it not work with bell pre's now? Jul 18 00:38:39 oh wait, proly cause the emu doesnt have the app cat ;p Jul 18 00:38:45 haha Jul 18 00:38:46 pwned Jul 18 00:39:19 lolol Jul 18 00:39:26 dawm is such an idiot Jul 18 00:39:29 webos-info: dawm Jul 18 00:39:30 Well gosh, I dunno... Jul 18 00:39:47 no i just forgot Jul 18 00:40:03 you're the one that cannot figure out how to delete his own facebook account :) Jul 18 00:40:10 LOL! Jul 18 00:40:28 pwnted Jul 18 00:40:28 Hey, my youtube account reactivated it Jul 18 00:40:49 This happened to me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk-Ruwv6rrM Jul 18 00:41:10 webos-info: dawm Jul 18 00:41:11 Hah, that's easy, dawm is the lead developer at Biocandy Labs. He is also a massive loser. Jul 18 00:41:15 There we go Jul 18 00:41:26 actually kesne, you got http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5rF_X-8LiI Jul 18 00:42:09 I don't wanna watch that Jul 18 00:42:16 I'm watching LOST Jul 18 00:42:22 you got jesus pwned Jul 18 00:42:42 No, I got vegetowned Jul 18 00:44:04 Is dkirker gone? Jul 18 00:44:21 does anyone know how i can restart luna from within my app? Jul 18 00:44:36 diov not legally ;p Jul 18 00:44:38 diov: Why do you need to? Jul 18 00:44:54 diov: if you keep it HB, then yes? Jul 18 00:45:02 oil: its for homebrew app im working on Jul 18 00:45:13 oil != oii Jul 18 00:45:18 Hehe Jul 18 00:45:22 True story Jul 18 00:45:29 bad fonts FTL Jul 18 00:45:29 oiI != oil Jul 18 00:45:33 LOL Jul 18 00:45:48 diov: So, what does the app do? Jul 18 00:45:52 its just kesne being a jerk Jul 18 00:45:59 it eats babies Jul 18 00:46:05 oil: get back to the gulf Jul 18 00:46:08 then restarts Luna to cover up the deed Jul 18 00:46:08 webos-info: oil Jul 18 00:46:09 Is he here again? Get back to the gulf oil! Jul 18 00:46:20 webos-info: leave #webos Jul 18 00:46:21 DERP! Jul 18 00:46:37 oiI its a profile switching app and i need luna restart for changes to take affect Jul 18 00:46:58 diov: ask oil, he should know Jul 18 00:47:02 lol Jul 18 00:47:02 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwbCIq-v0-E Jul 18 00:47:07 I think he's done something with it in preware Jul 18 00:47:22 we do it with the service Jul 18 00:47:39 i think you can do it like the reset app if you're on the private bus Jul 18 00:47:46 the IPKG service oil? Jul 18 00:47:55 thats how we do it in preware Jul 18 00:47:57 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1w9f5Df7HI wow unbelievable Jul 18 00:48:03 I need a new app idea, something simple and millions of people will want it Jul 18 00:48:05 go Jul 18 00:48:13 flash Jul 18 00:48:24 sugardave: pr0n Jul 18 00:48:33 oil what would the code for that be or is there a webos internals page for it Jul 18 00:48:38 dawm: perhaps you missed the first requirement Jul 18 00:49:30 its in preware.git Jul 18 00:49:49 http://git.webos-internals.org/?p=applications/preware.git Jul 18 00:51:01 Desmond is such a beast Jul 18 00:51:14 oil under luna-assistant? Jul 18 00:51:28 its called in there Jul 18 00:51:38 but the code that does the actual restarting is in the service Jul 18 00:51:40 the src folder Jul 18 00:52:13 where do i get the newest preware Jul 18 00:52:21 i havent used it in a long time Jul 18 00:52:54 if it's on your pre it will update itself Jul 18 00:53:07 just run it and look in package updates Jul 18 00:53:15 Planet Eaters is doing better Jul 18 00:53:17 main menu top list item Jul 18 00:53:32 its not i deleted it because it was pissing me off Jul 18 00:53:35 ewww, writing for regular xhr sucks when you learned all you know from Ajax.Request Jul 18 00:53:51 download webos quick installer and look in the list of available packages Jul 18 00:54:20 oil which file in src is it Jul 18 00:54:28 i dont know, i dont write c Jul 18 00:54:51 luna_methods.c? Jul 18 00:54:58 I hate ajax Jul 18 00:55:00 er Jul 18 00:55:02 ajax.request Jul 18 00:55:09 oil thanks ill look Jul 18 00:55:11 there Jul 18 00:55:23 I hate Preware Jul 18 00:55:52 * oil wishes kesne would stop saying things like that when pretending to be me Jul 18 00:55:55 Whoever programmed it is kesne Jul 18 00:56:00 ER Jul 18 00:56:02 DARN Jul 18 00:56:04 i mean seriously Jul 18 00:56:11 stop Jul 18 00:56:16 I hate what I read something and then I type it Jul 18 00:56:19 its not funny Jul 18 00:56:21 fineeeee. Jul 18 00:56:24 :( Jul 18 00:57:20 Ajax.Request rocks simply for its auto-processing of JSON responses Jul 18 00:57:39 I prefer the jquery alternative Jul 18 00:57:42 $.ajax Jul 18 00:57:48 Yummu Jul 18 00:57:51 *yummy Jul 18 00:58:21 oil; i dont see any js that would let me use it in my app? Jul 18 00:58:54 the js calls a normal service request to the service which restarts it Jul 18 00:59:09 bbl Jul 18 00:59:12 moveie Jul 18 00:59:52 movies are boring Jul 18 01:01:30 oil so something like this.controller.serviceRequest('luna-service.c'); ? Jul 18 01:01:39 sorry im noob Jul 18 01:02:18 If you're a noob, why are you making that? Jul 18 01:02:56 boring-guy cuz to learn you gotta read and write it :) Jul 18 01:04:32 * BigBiff still has preware 0.9.56 Jul 18 01:08:05 BigBiff: time to upgrade Jul 18 01:08:12 hi! I've developed a simple HTML file to play in my Pre, but, can I do that the image fill the Pre screen without made an app? The web is: http://becado.es/cards Jul 18 01:08:15 diov no, look up service request on the devsite Jul 18 01:08:22 heh, ya think? Jul 18 01:11:41 don't know how to upgrade without a reinstall Jul 18 01:12:27 it's never been listed in the package updates Jul 18 01:13:04 so, I remain antiquated. but that's ok, it still works grat Jul 18 01:13:48 grat=great Jul 18 01:17:25 uninstall it with quick install Jul 18 01:17:30 then install 120 from testing feed Jul 18 01:17:48 don't forget the chicken feathers Jul 18 01:18:44 well 096 that was still the java service Jul 18 01:18:47 yeah, seriously upgrade Jul 18 01:18:56 remove preware and ipkgservice with quick install Jul 18 01:19:01 (so the propper postinsts are ran) Jul 18 01:19:09 then install th enew one Jul 18 01:22:24 webos-info: dekan Jul 18 01:22:24 Hah, that's easy, dekan is a better bot Jul 18 01:23:28 haeffb: sunburn? Jul 18 01:26:01 sunburn eh? Jul 18 01:26:06 better than rugburn! Jul 18 01:26:09 HA HA HA HA HA HA Jul 18 01:26:17 Everyone, in unison Jul 18 01:26:20 Ugh Jul 18 01:26:21 HA HA HA HA Jul 18 01:26:28 webos-info: clap Jul 18 01:26:28 * webos-info clap clap clap! WOO! \o/ Jul 18 01:35:44 botsnack Jul 18 01:35:44 * dekan nom nom nom Jul 18 01:39:26 botsnack Jul 18 01:39:26 * dekan nom nom nom Jul 18 01:39:28 you say? Jul 18 01:39:46 when am I going to get my Palm prototypes mailed to me? Jul 18 01:39:53 they were supposed to be here last week? Jul 18 01:40:13 I was promised a tablet, a new 3.7" phone with and without a keyboard Jul 18 01:40:29 I'm just kidding! Jul 18 01:40:42 *boy it sure is dead in here* Jul 18 01:41:18 we're all hard at work debugging the next version of internet explorer. now shhh Jul 18 01:41:23 <3 Jul 18 01:42:59 i kinda hope hp doesn't go overboard with screen size. Jul 18 01:43:20 Should I ignore 'depot' was used before it was defined. errors? Jul 18 01:43:31 or anything in place of depot Jul 18 01:56:14 no? Jul 18 01:56:18 you shouldn't Jul 18 01:56:35 dpivs: Overboard how? Jul 18 01:57:05 dpivs: The Droid incredible (3.7") is a really nice size, something like that for webOS, might be nice Jul 18 02:00:33 Anivrom: ping Jul 18 02:00:37 word Jul 18 02:00:50 depot working? Jul 18 02:00:54 ugh Jul 18 02:01:02 I'm mentally retarded I think Jul 18 02:01:15 Lots of docs just can't wrap my head around it. Jul 18 02:02:07 here's a "Cupcake" to replace cookies... :) http://www.pastie.org/1048999 Jul 18 02:02:39 untested, of course Jul 18 02:02:43 lol Jul 18 02:03:09 save it as cupcake.js & include in sources.json Jul 18 02:03:28 then, somewhere, cupcake.init(); Jul 18 02:03:41 how about in the setup function of stage assistant? Jul 18 02:03:49 * dohtem admonishes haeffb_ for having a funtion name in all caps Jul 18 02:04:08 * haeffb_ shrugs sheepishly Jul 18 02:04:23 :) Jul 18 02:04:47 mySettingsObject = {...bunch of object stuff...} Jul 18 02:05:23 cupcake.updateCupcake( 'aLabel', Object.toJSON(mySettingsObject)); Jul 18 02:06:12 mySettingsObject = cupcake.retrieveCupcake('aLabel').evalJSON(); Jul 18 02:06:21 That's it? Jul 18 02:06:33 oops, forgot about the callback functions... Jul 18 02:06:58 doh! Jul 18 02:07:04 not quite Jul 18 02:08:12 needs a bit of work yet. Jul 18 02:10:17 ffs why doesn't anything work lol. Throws me an error warning, script load failed for file:///media blah blah/cupcake.js, either remove the script or fix the src path Jul 18 02:10:26 I have it in sources and in index.html Jul 18 02:11:05 take it out of index.html Jul 18 02:11:09 oops :$ app/scripts/cupcake.js instead of scrips/cupcake.js Jul 18 02:12:21 haeffb_: so cupcakes arent quite ready yet? Jul 18 02:12:48 http://www.pastie.org/1049005 Jul 18 02:15:48 ok so I have to grab my cookie initially and then cupcake.updateCupcake( 'myCookie', Object.toJSON(mySettingsObject));? Jul 18 02:16:50 erm I mean nvm Jul 18 02:17:48 don't to the toJSON anymore. Jul 18 02:17:51 don't do Jul 18 02:17:54 ok Jul 18 02:18:14 I moved that into the updateCupcake function Jul 18 02:18:14 http://www.pastie.org/1049006 Jul 18 02:20:06 cupcake.updateCupcake( 'aLabel', mySettingsObject); will retrieve whatever settings I put in with the aLabel key right? Jul 18 02:20:17 I mean will put them in Jul 18 02:20:24 yep Jul 18 02:20:33 and retrieveCupcake will get the settings of the supplied key Jul 18 02:20:39 Hmm very simplistic. I like it. Jul 18 02:20:57 yes, except that you get the settings in the callback function Jul 18 02:21:30 but, if you look at cupcake.js, it is a very basic example of how to create a SQLite database as well. Jul 18 02:21:52 create table, add, update, delete records Jul 18 02:22:13 & how to use the callback function Jul 18 02:22:45 let me know how it goes... if it works, I'll post it on webos101 Jul 18 02:24:52 it's actually probably a very simplified version of Depot Jul 18 02:27:56 haeffb_: typeError: Cannot call method 'transaction' of null (app/scripts/cupcake.js:67) Jul 18 02:30:29 huh. Jul 18 02:30:41 my app starts and throws that Jul 18 02:31:10 you did the cupcake.init(); in setup of stage assistant? Jul 18 02:31:15 lol duh Jul 18 02:31:16 nvm Jul 18 02:31:18 mmm cupcakes Jul 18 02:31:27 man, i could go for a good jelly donut. Jul 18 02:32:40 Hmm Uncaught ReferenceError: cupcakes is not defined (app/assistants/stage-assistant.js:32) It's defined in sources.json Jul 18 02:33:03 cupcakes.init(); throws that error Jul 18 02:33:25 its at the top of sources.json too Jul 18 02:33:44 haeffb_: see above Jul 18 02:35:06 cupcake.init(); Jul 18 02:35:13 wtf Jul 18 02:35:30 only one cupcake Jul 18 02:35:35 * Anivrom slashes wrists Jul 18 02:35:48 not again! Jul 18 02:35:57 just a little higher Jul 18 02:36:10 Uncaught ReferenceError: sqlRetrieveCupcake is not defined (app/scripts/cupcake.js:84) Jul 18 02:36:27 And an error dialog DAO ERROR - (1) : 3 values for 2 colums Jul 18 02:36:34 columns too Jul 18 02:36:44 oops, missed that one Jul 18 02:39:26 http://www.pastie.org/1049012 Jul 18 02:41:44 same error but I might not have updated the file properly 1 min Jul 18 02:43:29 same error Jul 18 02:43:31 line 67 should be: "VALUES (?, ?); GO;"; Jul 18 02:43:37 ok Jul 18 02:44:21 line 64 you mean? Jul 18 02:45:08 whichever had three ?'s, should be two Jul 18 02:45:19 DAO ERROR - (1) : table cupcakes has no column named cupcake Jul 18 02:46:21 var sqlUpdateCupcake = "REPLACE INTO 'cupcakes' (label, cupcakeobject) " + Jul 18 02:46:30 line 6x Jul 18 02:46:50 * haeffb_ should have tested this... :) Jul 18 02:47:03 You are right now :P Jul 18 02:47:53 haeffb_: still getting Uncaught ReferenceError: sqlRetrieveCupcake is not defined (app/scripts/cupcake.js:84) But no error dialog anymore Jul 18 02:48:51 might be an intilization order error or something cause it's not throwing it persistantly Jul 18 02:50:28 no... Jul 18 02:50:56 When I close my app and reload it the data I saved through cupcake.updateCupcake() doesn't load my data. Hmm. Jul 18 02:51:22 wait... Jul 18 02:51:24 use this version: http://www.pastie.org/1049016 Jul 18 02:55:26 haeffb_: still the same error O_O Jul 18 02:55:45 sqlRetrieveCupcake is not defined? Jul 18 02:55:58 yea line 64 Jul 18 02:56:01 84* Jul 18 02:56:40 are you using http://www.pastie.org/1049016 ? Jul 18 02:56:46 yea Jul 18 02:57:02 why are the line numbers getting messed up? Jul 18 02:57:23 var sqlRetrieveCupcake = "SELECT cupcakeobject from cupcakes WHERE label=?; GO;"; Jul 18 02:58:00 that is line 86 in the pastie Jul 18 02:58:06 this.updateCupcake = function ( label, cupcake ) { Jul 18 02:58:06 var sqlUpdateCupcake = "REPLACE INTO 'cupcakes' (label, cupcakeobject) " + Jul 18 02:58:06 "VALUES (?, ?); GO;"; Jul 18 02:58:06 cupcake = Object.toJSON(cupcake); Jul 18 02:58:30 thats line 63 Jul 18 02:58:56 line 64 is "VALUES (?,?); GO;"; Jul 18 02:59:24 your line numbers are different than the last pastie Jul 18 02:59:33 I'm download the pastebin, saving it, renaming it, uploading it Jul 18 02:59:35 Nothing more Jul 18 02:59:47 oh, Ares. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Jul 18 02:59:56 2010