**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jul 26 02:59:57 2010 Jul 26 03:05:29 * Tibfib used internalz to edit internalz. win Jul 26 03:06:36 does the text editor have word wrap Jul 26 03:06:43 * torchie fingazcross Jul 26 03:07:07 yes Jul 26 03:07:11 it's an option Jul 26 03:07:27 LOL Jul 26 03:07:36 * b3ll wishes terminal had word wrap Jul 26 03:10:46 I got rid of the silly title block. takes up a third of the screen Jul 26 03:11:40 libcrypto ssh error WTF Jul 26 03:14:06 now I'm hype Jul 26 03:14:10 come tuesday come Jul 26 03:14:14 I demand my working pre Jul 26 03:25:56 gnite Jul 26 03:30:10 dekan, goodnight is night night Jul 26 03:30:11 Okay, Tibfib. Jul 26 03:35:47 test Jul 26 03:36:05 hmm... photos only seems to support facebook/photobucket uploads Jul 26 03:36:23 what if i want to upload to flickr? Jul 26 03:37:32 There's an app called FlickrCam Jul 26 03:38:53 ok, use 3rd party app? ic... so i guess there's no easy way to add addl account types to photos then Jul 26 03:39:21 Nope. :-( Jul 26 03:39:42 oh, there's another one called flickr-uploadr, does the same thing Jul 26 03:39:54 But, there's no standard protocol for photo uploding, like there is for email. Jul 26 03:40:14 yeah, they all sports their own facy REST api Jul 26 03:40:24 fancy Jul 26 03:45:37 oh well Jul 26 03:47:02 rwhitby: You aroud, Rod? Jul 26 03:47:09 Roy-Pre101: yep Jul 26 03:47:19 rwhitby: Are these directions accurate? http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Testing_Feeds Jul 26 03:47:27 I can't get testing feeds to show up. Jul 26 03:48:27 Roy-Pre101: they look correct, yes. Jul 26 03:48:36 Hmm, OK. Back to bashing head on wall. Jul 26 03:48:58 This is what I always get trying that link: Jul 26 03:48:58 Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at ipkg.preware.org:8080. Jul 26 03:49:25 which link? Jul 26 03:49:32 The 'all' link. Jul 26 03:49:43 Target Device: ALL Jul 26 03:49:43 Name: webos-testing-all Jul 26 03:49:43 URL: http://ipkg.preware.org/feeds/webos-internals/testing/all Jul 26 03:50:15 When I click it, it redirects to :8080 Jul 26 03:50:36 which fails. Jul 26 03:50:44 heh, you need a slash on the end for a browser, but not for the feed config Jul 26 03:50:59 Ah so. Jul 26 03:51:32 OK. Now to see why the feed doesn't show when I add it to Preware. Jul 26 03:51:41 I can see all the feeds in the browser now. Jul 26 03:53:46 ok, I fixed the page. Jul 26 03:54:48 What did you fix? Jul 26 03:56:01 just the slashes? Jul 26 03:58:27 just added slashed for clickable links. no change to what you type into Preware Jul 26 03:58:53 * rwhitby bbiab (lunch) Jul 26 04:08:26 I say haha to all of you Jul 26 04:08:48 hoh oho Jul 26 04:12:07 you all are where ever you are, but I'm sitting on the beach at the marriot (formerly the ritz carlton) right now Jul 26 04:12:08 Ho, ha-ah, dart, dodge, parry, spin, thrust -- BOINNGGGG! Jul 26 04:31:46 Bah, looks like freetether doesn't work anymore. 'iinvalid or missing url parameter' **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jul 26 05:00:15 2010 Jul 26 05:37:56 anyone here? Jul 26 05:39:55 kind of Jul 26 05:39:58 me Jul 26 05:40:03 codin at 2 am hell yeah Jul 26 05:40:10 physically yeah... mentally, no Jul 26 05:43:08 sheesh Jul 26 05:44:06 goodnight Jul 26 05:44:06 goodnight is night night Jul 26 05:44:10 dangit dekan Jul 26 05:44:11 botsmack Jul 26 05:44:12 * dekan cowers Jul 26 05:44:18 dekan: delete goodnight Jul 26 05:44:18 Not a bloody clue, sir. Jul 26 05:44:24 dekan, delete goodnight Jul 26 05:44:24 Not a bloody clue, sir. Jul 26 05:44:36 dekan, goodnight is night night Jul 26 05:44:36 Tibfib: I already had it that way Jul 26 05:44:43 sigh Jul 26 05:44:45 botsmack Jul 26 05:44:45 OUCH Jul 26 05:48:16 well if anyone is here Jul 26 05:48:34 Leaked Afghanistan war documents provide insight into americas longest war in it's history: Jul 26 05:48:35 http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/26/world/asia/26warlogs.html?_r=1 Jul 26 05:48:49 It's completely worth the read Jul 26 05:49:47 * rwhitby didn't realise they used webOS devices there ... Jul 26 05:50:08 ? Jul 26 05:50:12 * torchie takes a peek Jul 26 05:50:26 where are the webOS devices I seek Jul 26 05:51:14 ? Jul 26 05:51:22 this has nothing to do with webos Jul 26 05:51:25 but I have to do with webos Jul 26 05:51:27 so I can post it here Jul 26 05:51:49 my sister had a birthday yesterday Jul 26 05:51:55 my dog has a sore foot Jul 26 05:52:37 hey, everyone else join in and each of the 85 people in the channel post something unrelated to webos :) Jul 26 05:52:49 rwhitby: war != family Jul 26 05:52:51 and yes Jul 26 05:52:57 alexfner: just ribbing you man, no big deal :) Jul 26 05:53:01 we do occasionally partake in discussion outside webos in here :D Jul 26 05:54:09 but also pointing out that it's an international channel, so discussion of wars might not always be a good idea, lest people from the other side are active participants in the channel ... Jul 26 05:54:56 yeah but I'm not taking sides Jul 26 05:55:33 wikileaks leaked 92,000 NATO forces documents Jul 26 05:55:41 that is not a side, that's just a report :) Jul 26 05:56:04 I mean Jul 26 05:56:10 it's probably not appropriate to discuss Jul 26 05:56:19 especially if someone has an emotional position Jul 26 05:56:43 it's just one of those world changing reports, I think :| Jul 26 05:57:00 world=world, or world=US ? Jul 26 05:58:10 sorry, I'll stop picking at it now :) Jul 26 05:58:15 hmm Jul 26 05:58:18 no it's a good question Jul 26 05:58:22 I'm not quite sure Jul 26 05:58:25 dundundunnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn Jul 26 05:58:41 I mean, for someone who gets their reporting from the media, any form of media, it's a world changing report Jul 26 05:58:44 so if you're one of those people Jul 26 05:58:53 it's a totally different perspective Jul 26 05:58:57 media or US media ? Jul 26 05:59:01 media Jul 26 05:59:13 it comes from NATO soldiers, and officials Jul 26 05:59:14 anyone get eclipse/aptana to run successfully on windows7 64bit? Jul 26 05:59:18 it's a totally new perspective Jul 26 05:59:25 im sucking Jul 26 05:59:27 BigBiff: No! Get a mac! :) Jul 26 05:59:38 bah Jul 26 05:59:49 this blows bad Jul 26 05:59:54 eclipse running ok Jul 26 05:59:54 it doesn't come from people at the top Jul 26 06:00:02 it comes from peopl at the bottom, err in the middle Jul 26 06:00:05 aptana killin it Jul 26 06:00:15 I got it to work at one point Jul 26 06:01:13 error is: Jul 26 06:01:15 java.lang.NullPointerException Jul 26 06:01:16 alexfner: do you have eclipse running on a mac for webOS stuff ? Jul 26 06:01:25 rwhitby: yeah Jul 26 06:01:34 just use the windows eclipse files? Jul 26 06:01:53 rwhitby: what do you mean? Jul 26 06:02:01 I installed eclipse for mac Jul 26 06:02:08 and used the webos package that is available Jul 26 06:02:13 alexfner: I thought Palm only released their eclipse addon stuff for windows Jul 26 06:02:40 no no no! Jul 26 06:02:43 No, its platform independent iirc Jul 26 06:02:45 maybe it's changed since last time I looked (which was 1.3 or something) Jul 26 06:02:48 they dev on mac computers! Jul 26 06:02:50 but textmate ftw Jul 26 06:02:56 it's worked since like 1.0 Jul 26 06:04:01 hmm - for some reason I thought they only support eclipse for windows, and did xcode for mac Jul 26 06:04:17 but now I see I'm either wrong or well out of date Jul 26 06:04:31 Textmate + modifying a useless textmate bundle to run webos commands+ win Jul 26 06:04:48 when I tried it back then, aptana seemed to take over the eclipse installation in a very viral way Jul 26 06:05:42 you are crazy Jul 26 06:05:44 completely crazy Jul 26 06:05:49 crazy crazy crazy Jul 26 06:06:07 durr Jul 26 06:06:50 * rwhitby might try eclipse again Jul 26 06:07:28 anyone using eclipse for PDK stuff ? Jul 26 06:07:45 nein Jul 26 06:07:51 that's bundled for xCode on mac Jul 26 06:07:54 I'm looking for concurrent Javascript and C debugging Jul 26 06:07:57 and that just gets me upset Jul 26 06:08:13 ah, that might be what I was looking at then. eclipse PDK support only on windows. Jul 26 06:08:27 If I could get a textmate bundle to run palm-log on the current app I would be happy Jul 26 06:11:05 well, maybe my prob was i was using eclipse 3.6 Jul 26 06:11:07 helios Jul 26 06:11:17 not sure aptana will work past 3.5 Jul 26 06:12:01 cant believe im staying up this late for this foolishness Jul 26 06:12:13 I can't believe its not butter! Jul 26 06:12:19 I just did something disgusting in javascript Jul 26 06:12:38 document.write('alexfner')? Jul 26 06:12:40 use it? Jul 26 06:12:45 created an obj, var shapes = {}; Jul 26 06:12:51 shapes.circle: function() { Jul 26 06:12:57 return circle.prototype; Jul 26 06:12:59 } Jul 26 06:13:01 then called Jul 26 06:13:09 shapes.circle() for everything Jul 26 06:13:12 Good morning Jul 26 06:13:12 good morning hotdp Jul 26 06:13:24 the truth is that Jul 26 06:13:28 that is a simplified example Jul 26 06:13:37 but I just moved a bunch of stuff under one object Jul 26 06:13:45 and it was ridiculous in a way I cannot explain Jul 26 06:13:47 so I won't try Jul 26 06:22:15 haha Jul 26 06:22:16 sittin here thinkin about a webos tablet Jul 26 06:22:20 I'd be so hype for that Jul 26 06:22:27 yup, aptana not supported in 3.6 Jul 26 06:22:39 Pic: http://nbrmods.com/IMGP2001.JPG (LARGE pic) Jul 26 06:22:41 wow that was a pain in the ass Jul 26 06:23:39 couple hours wasted Jul 26 06:23:52 that image Jul 26 06:23:55 is not a larg pic Jul 26 06:24:01 Large size Jul 26 06:24:02 took me .1 sec, with my google fiber Jul 26 06:24:04 Whatevs Jul 26 06:24:19 Dude, I have like 10KB of bandwidth at this hotel Jul 26 06:24:28 I've got google fiber Jul 26 06:24:33 I wasn't supposed to say anything! Jul 26 06:24:36 I always forget! Jul 26 06:24:41 And AGPS with one tower SUCKS Jul 26 06:27:08 Srsly. Keeps putting me on the other side of the island, then keeps futzing with the reported location and telling me im like 300 feet from where I really amm Jul 26 06:27:18 Turn off agps? perfectly fine Jul 26 06:28:44 but at least it connects. unlike the ipad which just sits there and goes "HA. no." Jul 26 06:30:17 ok Jul 26 06:30:29 now that i got my editor working, its time for bed :( Jul 26 06:30:56 too tired.. Jul 26 06:30:58 night Jul 26 06:38:34 you have an iPad with you halfhalo? Jul 26 06:38:39 yes Jul 26 06:38:42 just how much technology do you have with you? Jul 26 06:38:45 in a hotel Jul 26 06:38:53 and may I inquire as to the purpose of this trip? Jul 26 06:39:29 like 18 kindles, laptop, ipad, camera, pre, zune, zune dock... ummm couple ipods.... Jul 26 06:39:35 and its a vacation Jul 26 06:39:37 :p Jul 26 06:40:11 who's on vacation Jul 26 06:40:13 you Jul 26 06:40:15 or the technology? Jul 26 06:40:21 both Jul 26 06:40:26 did you go on vacation and bring the technology? Jul 26 06:40:30 yes Jul 26 06:40:33 or did it go on vacation and bring you? Jul 26 06:40:42 I brought it this time Jul 26 06:40:49 but HOW DO YOU KNOW? Jul 26 06:40:55 I paid Jul 26 06:40:57 lol Jul 26 06:41:20 but maybe it was the technology calling in a favor? Jul 26 06:41:29 or maybe the technology coerced you somehow? Jul 26 06:41:37 or maybe it controlls your bank account? Jul 26 06:42:20 no, laptops conrtol my bank Jul 26 06:42:49 maybe the laptops were conferring with the other technology? Jul 26 06:43:02 no Jul 26 06:43:08 their to snobbish Jul 26 06:43:45 halfhalo_T400: you're not making this a very compelling story Jul 26 06:43:52 haven't you ever heard of making a story? Jul 26 06:44:00 Nope Jul 26 06:44:04 Ever heard of a little known man named Dr. Seus? Jul 26 06:44:04 Not when Im in the tub Jul 26 06:44:15 he could make stories like it was his job Jul 26 06:44:33 and, just to show off what a crazy man he was, he always made them rhyme Jul 26 06:45:13 this is history, look it up Jul 26 06:45:15 Only on notebook forums can someone end up talking about tattos in a thread about mice Jul 26 07:19:47 good evening folks Jul 26 07:23:56 no one here! Jul 26 07:24:00 go away! Jul 26 07:24:02 :D Jul 26 07:24:03 your adopted! Jul 26 07:24:08 your Jul 26 07:24:16 awesome? I know Jul 26 07:26:45 you just bent language Jul 26 07:27:18 eh. it happens Jul 26 07:33:45 crazy question here Jul 26 07:33:53 no, you may not Jul 26 07:34:23 but does anyone know of a js framewhere where you don't have to register events, but you can put a generic event listener that will tell you the id of the dom element Jul 26 07:34:29 like, register click events Jul 26 07:34:36 onclick, return id Jul 26 07:34:39 etc. Jul 26 08:14:51 Everyone alive here? Jul 26 08:15:32 Hello? Jul 26 08:16:14 I had a question about preware, and homebrew in general.... Jul 26 08:17:28 anybody? Jul 26 10:04:54 morning Jul 26 10:27:29 Morning swisstomcat Jul 26 10:58:47 hi hotdp Jul 26 10:58:59 How are you today? Jul 26 10:59:07 good Jul 26 13:32:52 morning folks Jul 26 13:59:38 morning lonestar Jul 26 14:07:02 +swisstomcat okay I'm heree :) Jul 26 14:07:13 allright Jul 26 14:07:40 http://webos101.com/Mojo.Cookie Jul 26 14:09:46 +swisstomcat Am i correct in assuming I wouldn't need to save global variables to a cookie for what I'm doing, just making it? Jul 26 14:10:29 yeah, make a cookie with a value in it (e.g firstrun) after your special scene has run Jul 26 14:10:43 next time your start check if the cookie/value exists, if yes show the usual scene Jul 26 14:11:23 +swisstomcat okay thanks for your help, i'll give it a try Jul 26 14:14:13 swisstomcat does the cookie go in stage-assistant or main-assistan? Jul 26 14:14:37 it would go into stage assistant, because that one calls the first scene Jul 26 14:14:55 swisstomcat thought so, thanks! Jul 26 14:31:54 morning all Jul 26 14:33:38 swisstomcat how would I make the if statement to decide whether or not to push a scene based on the cookie? Jul 26 14:41:30 morning hattczech Jul 26 14:42:11 diov: if (cookieData == '') { this.controller.pushScene("first-use"); } else { this.controller.pushScene("level"); } Jul 26 14:47:49 this.controller.pushScene(cookieData); Jul 26 14:48:15 hmm, good idea Jul 26 14:48:35 this.controller.pushScene(cookieData.firstscene); Jul 26 14:48:48 sure yeah.. that.. Jul 26 14:49:37 bbl Jul 26 14:49:37 swisstomcat thanks for all your help :) Jul 26 14:54:33 BMyers Jul 26 14:54:51 depot isn't as tough as it's rep Jul 26 14:58:09 haeffb ? Jul 26 15:03:15 haeffb_pre ? Jul 26 15:03:43 conventional wisdom is to avoid depot... Jul 26 15:04:13 ...but I'm going to start using depot rather than cookies Jul 26 15:04:18 i agree. always has been has it not? Jul 26 15:04:45 o, running out of space as a cookie? Jul 26 15:05:03 yes, I think so. Jul 26 15:05:28 sometime properties in the cookie just disappeared Jul 26 15:05:56 gremlins in the cookie jar? Jul 26 15:07:52 probably. but changin from cookies to depot was easy Jul 26 15:12:57 swisstomcat what would if cookieData be from this page http://webos101.com/Mojo.Cookie#How_to_Save_and_Retrieve_Mojo_Cookies (where i got the info)? Jul 26 15:17:09 diov: this.savedObject Jul 26 15:20:53 cookies are good for synchronicity Jul 26 15:21:15 i like cupcakes better Jul 26 15:21:42 I haven't looked at that example yet Jul 26 15:22:54 cupcakes == depot Jul 26 15:23:49 * sugardave catches up on work e-mail. Jul 26 15:23:53 synchronicity is good but async is also good Jul 26 15:24:55 cookies as blocking-process control....hmm, sounds like a good candidate for stupid mojo tricks Jul 26 15:26:20 "I loved your Done! task manager for Webos. Any plans of porting this over to Iphone? There is nothing even close to this good in the iphone appstore." Jul 26 15:26:35 nice! Jul 26 15:30:27 very nice Jul 26 15:30:55 haeffb: is the new done beta what you sent me per email? Jul 26 15:33:35 wtf my SSL certificate from gmail account has expired???? Jul 26 15:33:46 time to buy a new one? ;) Jul 26 15:41:32 swisstomcat what does it mean by YourDivName at http://webos101.com/Mojo.Cookie#How_to_Save_and_Retrieve_Mojo_Cookies Jul 26 15:41:52 swisstomcat: yes...except there is a newer in preware now. Jul 26 15:42:08 but the translations are the same Jul 26 15:42:13 diov: that's just for displaying the value in the cookie on the screen .. you wouldn't need that Jul 26 15:42:24 my pre has restarted without reason and now its 9 november 2009!!!! Jul 26 15:42:25 haeffb: allright, let me check it then Jul 26 15:42:39 no wonder about the expired cert then, agathos Jul 26 15:42:40 swisstomcat thanks Jul 26 15:42:51 yes is for that Jul 26 15:44:16 clock sync: your device is off by 258 days 20 h 11 min 22 sec :) Jul 26 15:44:28 heh Jul 26 15:46:36 swisstomcat I'm unable to get the cookie working, so am I suppose to get() the cookie in stage-assistant and make it there or just make it there or neither? Jul 26 15:49:00 either check if the cookie even exists or if you need to store data in a cookie as well, check for a certain value Jul 26 15:52:14 swisstomcat how would I do that Jul 26 15:52:46 (04:42:13 PM) swisstomcat: diov: if (cookieData == '') { this.controller.pushScene("first-use"); } else { this.controller.pushScene("level"); } Jul 26 15:55:12 http://webos.pastebin.com/KTbWrWWe Jul 26 15:55:54 diov: sorry, this one: http://webos.pastebin.com/bGfPr7hH Jul 26 15:56:08 chuqui is here, hide the puppies! Jul 26 15:56:41 chuqui: sent you an email this am Jul 26 15:56:55 good morning, all happy monday. Jul 26 15:57:02 anyone else here use quattrowireless? Jul 26 15:57:05 about to go diving into my email now. Jul 26 15:57:13 need to have a request for rejection taken care of Jul 26 15:58:21 chuqui enters the pool of email with scarcely a ripple Jul 26 15:58:40 judges give 9.7 Jul 26 15:58:44 swisstomcat thanks! Jul 26 15:58:59 you haven't seen me, have you? I"m cannonball city. Jul 26 15:59:28 what I worked on this weekend... http://chuqui.smugmug.com/photos/swfpopup.mg?AlbumID=12637458&AlbumKey=e6w9T Jul 26 15:59:29 * swisstomcat wipes away the water ... it went all the way to europe! Jul 26 15:59:42 i've seen pics, but assume you hhave email skillz Jul 26 16:01:02 not fair to link to a flash slideshow... Jul 26 16:01:50 ah, sorry on the flash. smugmug is working on html5 stuff, too. Jul 26 16:02:47 btw: where's flash for webOS? :) Jul 26 16:03:37 yeah really. now i gotta do a virus scan Jul 26 16:03:46 into Adobe's labs ;) Jul 26 16:03:53 wanna break in it ? :) Jul 26 16:03:56 outters are tastie critters tho Jul 26 16:05:34 creamed outter on toaste is good Jul 26 16:05:51 outter cakes arent bad either if you can get em Jul 26 16:06:03 cute pup Jul 26 16:06:20 somehow nature has made all animal pups cute ;) Jul 26 16:06:24 when i go to the county fair i always get outter on a stick.. Jul 26 16:06:55 what's an outter? Jul 26 16:07:02 oops Jul 26 16:07:07 hehehehe Jul 26 16:07:49 duh Jul 26 16:09:57 swisstomcat this is the code I have but its still not working it just pushes main on first run http://webos.pastebin.com/Lm3dY1pq could you tell me what I'm doing wrong? Jul 26 16:11:11 diov: the cookie might already exist because you create it at line 3? Jul 26 16:11:28 nah, can't be Jul 26 16:13:21 try to add myCookie.remove(); before line 9 to make sure the cookie is cleared Jul 26 16:13:51 swisstomcat okay will do Jul 26 16:20:17 swisstomcat i get this error Uncaught ReferenceError: myCookie is not defined when I try myCookie.remove(); Jul 26 16:21:08 myCookie = new Mojo.Model.Cookie('MyCookie'); myCookie.remove(); ? Jul 26 16:23:50 swisstomcat ill try it Jul 26 16:24:05 did you have it that way? Jul 26 16:25:06 bbl Jul 26 16:28:52 swisstomcat I no longer get the error but, i still only see the first scene every launch Jul 26 16:29:15 inorb1t Jul 26 16:29:21 erm Jul 26 16:29:31 that makes sense, diov Jul 26 16:29:49 because now the cookie is empty every time Jul 26 16:30:01 remove that myCookie.remove(); line now Jul 26 16:30:05 and try again Jul 26 16:30:06 ok Jul 26 16:32:30 swisstomcat nope still only launches with first Jul 26 16:32:45 hmm Jul 26 16:33:57 diov: my put looks different: myCookie.put({ firstuse: true }); Jul 26 16:38:30 swisstomcat Thanks so much for all your help :) heres the code that works! http://webos.pastebin.com/xdqAS1dE Jul 26 16:38:47 yay! Jul 26 16:39:06 swisstomcat Thanks for your help! Jul 26 16:39:25 np Jul 26 16:39:39 Hey swiss. Jul 26 16:40:16 You workin on anything for pdk hot apps?, Jul 26 16:40:36 not yet :( Jul 26 16:40:50 i need an sdl crashcourse first Jul 26 16:40:59 and a c crashcourse as well Jul 26 16:41:02 I would if I knew C++ Jul 26 16:41:03 i'm a web developer :) Jul 26 16:42:27 I'm barely 2 weeks into being a web developer althoug I have done some flash stuff before. Jul 26 16:42:59 I'm used to visual basic so js/c++ is a bit of change in scenery Jul 26 16:43:55 I woild have a pdk got app in submission if palm got their crap together Jul 26 16:43:59 s/got/hot/ Jul 26 16:44:23 Anivrom|pre: you know vb.net? Jul 26 16:45:59 Zsoc: only a bit. I quit programming right before .net came out. My father knows .net though. Did it for a living Jul 26 16:46:14 Anivrom|pre: Ah, that's what I was getting at :) ok then Jul 26 16:46:16 We blaming zsoc for stuff again? Jul 26 16:46:32 halfhalo_T400: things are generally my fault Jul 26 16:46:48 Atleast that's what we tell the judge Jul 26 16:48:50 If there was a vb to c++ wrapper I'd be making a pdk app right now :P that counts right? Jul 26 16:49:31 Anivrom|pre: i think my head just exploded Jul 26 16:53:28 I'm here! Jul 26 16:53:31 once again! Jul 26 16:53:34 I've returned! Jul 26 16:54:19 Off to do snorkling! Jul 26 16:54:21 welcome.. back? Jul 26 16:56:32 snorkeling sounds good Jul 26 16:56:40 probly doin that next weekend Jul 26 16:56:53 you can't snorkel and be on IRC at the same time Jul 26 16:56:57 it's true Jul 26 16:57:09 sounds like a challenge! Jul 26 16:57:20