**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Sep 21 02:59:57 2010 Sep 21 03:02:30 in the emulator, in /usr/palm/applications/com.palm.app.dateandtime Sep 21 03:03:42 /usr/palm/applications No such file or directory. Sep 21 03:04:23 are you novaterm'd into the emulator? Sep 21 03:04:55 ...Novawhat? Sep 21 03:05:15 You mean I have to have the emulator open? Sep 21 03:08:51 :D Sep 21 03:12:42 lol Sep 21 03:15:54 * KGF2009 pokes rwhitby. Sep 21 03:16:41 KGF2009: yes, you need to be running the emulator, and then you can connect to the emulator via the command line and look at the Mojo source files for the built-in palm applications. novaterm is the program (in the Palm SDK) which allows this Sep 21 03:17:05 hahaha Sep 21 03:18:48 rwhitby: What kind of text editor do I have in novaterm? Sep 21 03:19:00 vi Sep 21 03:19:50 only the best Sep 21 03:20:19 KGF2009: but you can copy stuff to /media/internal somewhere and access it via USB mode if you want Sep 21 03:20:50 oh wait Sep 21 03:20:51 emulator Sep 21 03:20:52 * rwhitby bbl (lunch) Sep 21 03:21:01 same files are on the phone Sep 21 03:21:07 right Sep 21 03:21:23 Tonight is "Pickup lines involving webOS night" Sep 21 03:21:35 "You thought SUVs were cool, have you seen webOS?" Sep 21 03:21:45 hey baby, let me dynamically load your items Sep 21 03:21:58 "webOS has got all the mojo you'll need :D" Sep 21 03:22:18 just don't tell the ladies they need patching up, it never ends well Sep 21 03:22:28 I'ma get you all setup, then instantiateChildWidgets with you Sep 21 03:22:37 hahaha Sep 21 03:22:58 So basically all I need to do is copy this scene and assistant over to my app? Sep 21 03:23:02 hahaha Sep 21 03:23:38 99 problems, but a binary data handler ain't one Sep 21 03:23:48 When I saw you, I had to increase the size of my renderLimit Sep 21 03:24:10 I am so glad this is being logged Sep 21 03:24:17 haha Sep 21 03:24:58 "Have you met my friend Ares?" Sep 21 03:25:44 When the creator made you, he broke the attributes object Sep 21 03:26:20 I'd Mojo.Event.Tap that! Sep 21 03:26:24 hahaha Sep 21 03:28:46 So how do I transfer variables through scenes? Sep 21 03:29:20 you can use global vars, or you can put args in the scene's constructor and pass them that way when you push or swap a scene Sep 21 03:30:26 How do I use global variables? And I want to move a variable from a called scene back to the main, not the other way. Sep 21 03:30:57 you can pass data back to the previous scene when you pop one Sep 21 03:31:08 "I think I just popped a scene" Sep 21 03:31:10 wait Sep 21 03:31:14 that sounds liek I'm dancing Sep 21 03:31:22 that didnt work Sep 21 03:31:25 busted a move Sep 21 03:31:33 popped a scene Sep 21 03:31:36 same thing Sep 21 03:31:38 sugardave: How so? Sep 21 03:31:51 Baby, you and your friend are coming home with me and I'll show you the difference between poppin' and swappin' Sep 21 03:32:03 this.controller.stageController.popScene(myVar); Sep 21 03:32:07 KGF2009: it's part of the popScene method Sep 21 03:32:12 as haeffb shows Sep 21 03:32:26 and then retrieve it in activate(myVar) of the underlying scene Sep 21 03:32:38 it is passed back to the previous scene's activate method Sep 21 03:32:42 damn haeffb is on fire Sep 21 03:32:52 * haeffb poppin' a scene! Sep 21 03:33:10 or you could just ditch scenes all together and go straight html Sep 21 03:33:32 I just hope I can make this app at all. Sep 21 03:33:35 and make Palm all sad that you're not using their mojo? Sep 21 03:35:21 haeffb: I don;t think they'll be sad Sep 21 03:35:29 it'd just be a lot more lightweight Sep 21 03:35:42 had this talk with others Sep 21 03:36:41 well, yes. but it would have no mojo. Sep 21 03:36:49 modular Sep 21 03:37:05 you're no mojo Sep 21 03:41:21 * haeffb out. See y'all later. Sep 21 05:04:54 Mourning Sep 21 06:37:42 Good morning Sep 21 09:47:35 hi Sep 21 09:50:16 hi warpdesign_ Sep 21 09:59:37 hi folks - I can't seem to ssh into my pre anymore. Can anyone tell me how to reset user/passwd from novaterm? Sep 21 10:57:09 anyone can tell me what event is triggered when swiping an item from a list widget ? Sep 21 11:10:27 Famic_: you have the SDK installed? Sep 21 11:11:00 nevermind, I found it Sep 21 11:11:03 :) Sep 21 12:25:13 Greetings. Sep 21 12:25:20 Hello Sep 21 12:26:55 hi Sep 21 13:10:41 afternoon Sep 21 13:12:44 ping warpdesign_ Sep 21 13:14:41 help me make a CloudOS for the smart phone Sep 21 13:14:57 just tell me what your fav smart phone is Sep 21 13:15:07 pong swisstomcat Sep 21 14:05:15 Is it possible to send search paramtres to youtube application on WebOS ? Sep 21 14:18:12 morning folks Sep 21 14:19:26 morning' Sep 21 14:19:49 morning Sep 21 14:23:18 just got a nasty email, the dude wants his money back Sep 21 14:23:45 gonna rip him, a new arse Sep 21 14:24:00 hahaha Sep 21 14:24:02 RT @DRUNKHULK: TWITTER BIRD FLU! DRUNK HULK NO EVER TRUST THAT STUPID BLUE BIRD! Sep 21 14:24:23 i usually just send them their money back via paypal Sep 21 14:24:27 i had one case so far Sep 21 14:24:31 customer happy, done Sep 21 14:25:43 I would, if he would leave some sort of feedback, but probably won't so.... Sep 21 14:25:58 wow... how much was the app? Sep 21 14:26:03 1.49 Sep 21 14:26:16 lol... what a d-bag Sep 21 14:26:27 lol Sep 21 14:26:28 yeah Sep 21 14:26:53 http://theoatmeal.com/blog/apps Sep 21 14:27:25 "whoa... 99 cents? that's a lot of money!" Sep 21 14:27:50 yeah Sep 21 14:28:41 whoa whoa whoa! 99 cents! Sep 21 14:29:04 "one ticket to see 'brokeback mountain 3D"...lol Sep 21 14:30:08 manderton: brokeback mountain is a good movie, but in 3d? Sep 21 14:30:19 yeah Sep 21 14:30:25 wow Sep 21 14:30:44 what it the point, to see the dudes kiss in 3d? Sep 21 14:31:28 think the point was that ppl will pay ridiculous amounts of money for all sorts of stupid crap Sep 21 14:31:40 but balk at paying 99 cents for a well-crafted app Sep 21 14:31:45 good point Sep 21 14:32:01 my apps are 1.49 too, seems like a good price Sep 21 14:37:57 yeah Sep 21 14:38:39 this what i wrote the dude: http://pastebin.com/pLt6AMvs Sep 21 14:39:34 LoneStar99 some people are you bad customers Sep 21 14:39:53 The will find "errors" no matter what.. Sep 21 14:40:03 yeah Sep 21 14:40:36 And if you give money back, they can still use the app. Sep 21 14:41:08 So no way to control if they complain about all there apps so they get em for "free" Sep 21 14:41:15 if the apps i release are buggy, then would issue refund, but i tests my apps: "left, right, upside down, backwards, drunk'... Sep 21 14:41:27 "we find your claims invalid"... awesome Sep 21 14:42:01 thanks Sep 21 14:42:07 sounds good Sep 21 14:43:59 You can give them money back, but they can still give you 0 stars and use the app. and i think that is what many would do Sep 21 14:44:43 does 0 stars affect your avg? thought that was like no review... Sep 21 14:44:55 hotdp: i thought the same thing Sep 21 14:48:55 launched my wallet site --> http://deemon.in you can build your wallet online Sep 21 14:52:32 very cool Sep 21 14:57:50 manderton: thanks Sep 21 15:04:38 will take some wallets with me to NYC Sep 21 15:05:17 I'm goin to chicago in about a month I think Sep 21 15:05:36 slightly OT: you guys ever use any online proj mgmt stuff to collab with people? basecamp? sharepoint? unfuddle? Sep 21 15:05:42 any recommendations? Sep 21 15:06:07 i've heard of basecamp, redmine Sep 21 15:06:54 anyone heard of a good web-based team time management solution? e.g which team member is where at what time (on a calendar) Sep 21 15:08:30 sorry, no. we just roll with our google apps calendar Sep 21 15:08:40 redmine has plugins for that Sep 21 15:09:16 redmine -- you download and host yourself? Sep 21 15:09:37 si Sep 21 15:10:52 its easy if you have done it before and know what setup it requires Sep 21 15:11:58 manderton: had messed with basecamp with some chumps in the past. Sep 21 15:12:26 basecamp seems pretty nice for a larger project, over kill for a not so large project Sep 21 15:12:33 i c Sep 21 15:13:05 I'm in the middle of a 'not so large project' that has become large Sep 21 15:13:13 and the client hired proj mgmt consultants Sep 21 15:13:16 ugh... Sep 21 15:13:29 they're trying to push sharepoint on me... Sep 21 15:13:31 blech Sep 21 15:13:36 manderton: i would use basecamp project if need be Sep 21 15:13:43 cool Sep 21 15:13:47 Is it possible to send search paramtres to youtube application on WebOS ? Sep 21 15:16:24 i don't think so Sep 21 15:16:31 hmm Sep 21 15:16:41 i think you have to do your own seearch through the api and then push the youtube app Sep 21 15:16:41 That sounds crappy :s Sep 21 15:16:53 what api? Sep 21 15:20:04 don't they have an api? Sep 21 15:20:05 for youtube Sep 21 15:21:56 i googled but did not find anything Sep 21 15:22:42 http://code.google.com/apis/youtube/overview.html Sep 21 15:23:29 ahh i thought you ment that there was a webos youtube api :D Sep 21 15:23:33 like the widgets Sep 21 15:23:48 oh, no Sep 21 15:26:19 it's almost time for a productivity killing meeting Sep 21 15:26:50 I like the sound of that! Sep 21 15:26:53 What? You mean meetings kill productivity? Sep 21 15:27:00 indeed Sep 21 15:33:17 Quick question for you guys,, what would be the reason for: 'arm-none-linux-gnueabi0g++" is not recognized as ... duing my buildit.cmd on windows? Sep 21 15:33:29 *during Sep 21 15:33:53 not recognized as what ? Sep 21 15:33:58 you mean not found ? Sep 21 15:34:28 as an internal or external command Sep 21 15:35:10 JohnEE: It should be arm-none-linux-gnueabi-g++ Sep 21 15:35:43 That's what it is Sep 21 15:35:55 Sorry, a bit tired and the fingers aren't going where the brain is thinking Sep 21 15:37:38 tried to type this command in a command prompt ? Sep 21 15:38:08 Yes, to the same effect Sep 21 15:38:26 JohnEE: Make sure that the executable is in your path, or whatever the Windows equivalent is. Sep 21 15:38:43 Otherwise you will need to provide the full path to the executable. Sep 21 15:39:20 type set to see your path Sep 21 15:44:31 So much more used to OS X.. Sep 21 15:46:41 I see that I have all of the palm stuff in the path Sep 21 15:50:26 sugardave: I LOVE productivity killing meetings. Sep 21 15:50:55 All that productivity killing means less work. Sep 21 15:51:16 i open sourced some code Sep 21 15:51:30 if anyone cares. Sep 21 15:51:35 time to setup and configure a FreeBSD server -> FUN Sep 21 15:51:47 Umm duh fun Sep 21 15:52:31 some man is 114 years old, "biggest regret" not fighting in WWI that is nuts Sep 21 15:55:44 chuqui do you know when the people will be picked for Mobile App World 2010? Sep 21 15:56:51 hotdp: I'm waiting for info on how to register before I tell the people who get the tickets. Sep 21 15:57:06 roger :-) Sep 21 15:58:14 chuqui: What's this? Sep 21 15:58:27 dundunDUNnNnNnNn... Sep 21 15:58:28 hotd: what you mean people chosen? Sep 21 15:58:50 nothing to see here. these aren't the droids you're looking for Sep 21 15:59:34 LoneStar99: Mobile App World 2010, you could ask for tickets before 15 Septembe Sep 21 15:59:47 Its in UK long distance from SD :P Sep 21 16:00:38 hotdp: =( Sep 21 16:00:50 ? Sep 21 16:00:54 will try to go to austria this summer Sep 21 16:01:10 hotdp: mobile app world in the UK =( Sep 21 16:01:15 ahh Sep 21 16:01:22 But you will be there in NyC :D Sep 21 16:01:34 have to have some drinks at my friends bar Sep 21 16:01:44 in austria? Sep 21 16:01:47 in austria yea Sep 21 16:02:15 People only go there in the winter for snowboard and stuff Sep 21 16:02:24 *people i know Sep 21 16:02:37 deliciousmorsel: i saw that .. awesome .. want to host it at webos-internals too? Sep 21 16:02:39 http://www.meindaimlers.at/ Sep 21 16:02:58 looks good :P Sep 21 16:03:01 chuqui: Any more news on the developer day in NYC? Sep 21 16:03:15 morning chuqui Sep 21 16:03:24 swisstomcat: good morning! Sep 21 16:03:37 Roy-Pre101: not yet. I'm not totally in the loop on it, though. Sep 21 16:04:10 we are all excited for NYC Sep 21 16:04:23 lulz: http://bit.ly/9ntS1x (May contain nuts and the f word) Sep 21 16:04:24 need to sell alot of apps and wallets =) Sep 21 16:04:40 to finance the trip =) Sep 21 16:04:55 hi lonestar,roy-pre101 Sep 21 16:05:12 swisstomcat: swisstomcat! Sep 21 16:05:19 hello swisstomcat Sep 21 16:05:43 halfhalo: f***ing sickos Sep 21 16:05:47 swisstomcat how was the meating? Sep 21 16:05:54 lol Sep 21 16:05:58 which one? Sep 21 16:06:23 i have not meatings Sep 21 16:06:26 nice "f-ck" is probably my favorite word, it can mean so many things! Sep 21 16:07:09 ok, need to concentrate on freebsd stuff... Sep 21 16:27:35 gonna try out a new webserver... Sep 21 16:31:57 nice Sep 21 16:32:31 good morning #webos Sep 21 16:33:45 morning techrush Sep 21 16:35:08 Rawr. So drowsy Sep 21 17:43:16 lively group today Sep 21 17:52:47 man i was really dumb Sep 21 17:53:03 i booked a flight to nyc at newark airport, when my hotel is next to lga Sep 21 17:53:33 =( Sep 21 17:53:42 for dev day? Sep 21 17:54:45 hahahaha Sep 21 17:54:47 for international film festival Sep 21 18:00:22 WOW Sep 21 18:00:37 My app just got an update 6 hours later then i uploaded it! Sep 21 18:00:43 Palm that was damn fast and nice :D Sep 21 18:03:21 nice Sep 21 18:03:28 which app Sep 21 18:03:36 Yes and very fast! Sep 21 18:04:01 other times it has been few days Sep 21 18:14:06 my update went through Sep 21 18:14:10 and i came out 40th on the list Sep 21 18:14:16 why can't i get lucky just once? Sep 21 18:15:32 re Sep 21 18:16:50 codeslaw: I know how you feel. It seems like my updates are always at the bottom of the list too. Sep 21 18:17:03 and Natural Drums and Saber get the top 2 spots/ Sep 21 18:17:05 ? Sep 21 18:17:15 fml Sep 21 18:17:19 does anyone know "god is an astronaut"? Sep 21 18:17:25 i can't wait till this contest is over Sep 21 18:17:27 the band Sep 21 18:17:53 codeslaw: what contest? Sep 21 18:17:57 hot apps Sep 21 18:18:03 i thought it was over Sep 21 18:18:08 soon Sep 21 18:18:12 no, pdk one ends in 8 days Sep 21 18:18:13 sept. 30th Sep 21 18:18:19 If I fall into Infinity when the end of the universe occurs, I hope it sounds like this. It'd make the ride all worth it. Sep 21 18:18:23 http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2098 Sep 21 18:18:36 that was the SDK contest Sep 21 18:18:39 oh, nevermind, that was an old one Sep 21 18:18:42 ya Sep 21 18:18:50 and some really crappy stuff won too Sep 21 18:19:09 that's because quality vs. quantity was not taken into consideration Sep 21 18:38:49 hmm.... Sep 21 18:39:08 an unpublished landline just called my phone from new york Sep 21 18:40:33 Who the hell would call my regular cell number, i never give that out Sep 21 18:41:50 * Mousey guesses spammer Sep 21 18:42:19 Yeah, thats what I'm leaning towards Sep 21 18:42:51 * Anivrom|pre blames oil Sep 21 18:44:53 * halfhalo blames oil as well Sep 21 18:47:36 * haeffb_pre blames petrochemicals in general Sep 21 18:47:54 lol Sep 21 18:48:24 * halfhalo will call back when his class is over and be like 'who dat?' Sep 21 18:51:37 the feds are closing in on ya, halfhalo Sep 21 18:51:55 AGAIN?!?!?! Sep 21 18:55:44 hmm ... "CE-Oh no he didn't!: Anssi Vanjoki says using Android is like peeing in your pants for warmth" Sep 21 18:56:25 lol Sep 21 18:56:29 yeah, saw that Sep 21 18:58:38 Well that's smart Sep 21 18:58:47 And iPad to him is a bad computer.. Sep 21 19:00:02 swisstomcat: hello Sep 21 19:00:10 hi Sep 21 19:00:35 Is this your site as well - http://blancer.com/tutorials/84480/introduction-to-webos-sdk-development-part-2/ Sep 21 19:01:45 Wooooow I'm looking at an infinity FX 50 S. 490 hp Sep 21 19:02:08 That's just shy of a freakin vette Sep 21 19:09:35 dohtem: someone is ripping off mobiletuts :( Sep 21 19:09:37 JUST SHY Sep 21 19:10:06 funkatronic! Sep 21 19:10:12 hello Sep 21 19:10:26 * dohtem plays the funkatron techno/dance theme song Sep 21 19:10:31 swanky Sep 21 19:11:20 Everyday I drive by a theatre with a big tron legacy poster and I wet myself. It better not suck! Sep 21 19:12:31 Anyone seen catfish yet? If you haven't seen it don't look it up just go see it. You're supposed to know as little about the movie as possible. Sep 21 19:12:44 no no no! Sep 21 19:12:47 so spoilers please Sep 21 19:13:21 I just read about it yesterday... apparently its almost impossible to tell someone about the movie without spoiling it Sep 21 19:13:22 Wish it was playing in canada. Sep 21 19:13:32 Yea. Sep 21 19:14:05 The trailer practically spoils the movie even though it only gives away a tiny bit of info Sep 21 19:14:45 that's what I read - http://www.newsweek.com/2010/09/14/spoilers-suck.html Sep 21 19:19:01 it was some random place in ny Sep 21 19:21:44 Good article dohtem: I regret watching the trailer. Sep 21 19:23:06 Wonder why they would make the trailer so revealing. Kinda rude! Sep 21 19:25:21 remember this - http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=snape%20kills%20dumbledore Sep 21 19:25:25 lol Sep 21 19:27:35 swisstomcat what app? Sep 21 19:27:45 and how could they "rip" it? Sep 21 19:27:53 not the app, the article Sep 21 19:28:40 Lol @ snape killed dumbledore Sep 21 19:28:48 but what do you mean with "rip"? Sep 21 19:29:24 Never heard that one before cause I'm the farthest from a harry potter fan you'll ever see Sep 21 19:30:38 they just took the contents of the mobiletuts article and posted it at their site .. ripoff Sep 21 19:31:30 link? Sep 21 19:31:49 http://blancer.com/tutorials/84480/introduction-to-webos-sdk-development-part-2/ Sep 21 19:32:17 lol Sep 21 19:32:24 have you contacted them? Sep 21 19:32:50 you can hire him :D Sep 21 19:48:19 are there any palm guys on here who can answer questions about the amped hack in georgia this weekend? Sep 21 19:53:18 yay, uploaded new app Sep 21 19:53:26 rht: look for chuqui Sep 21 19:56:01 swisstomcat: what app Sep 21 19:56:19 a schedule app for the upcoming jsconf.eu conference Sep 21 19:56:56 swisstomcat: awesome! Sep 21 19:57:09 nice Sep 21 19:57:16 i'm looking forward to go to berlin soon :) Sep 21 19:57:18 yeah Sep 21 19:58:12 the hardest part was creating the schedule in json-format and putting it on my server Sep 21 20:04:49 hmm, early access devs .. check your dropboxes :) Sep 21 20:11:12 Presentzzzzz? Sep 21 20:11:36 sorry Sep 21 20:11:38 brain fart from me Sep 21 20:11:42 i misread Sep 21 20:11:44 :( Sep 21 20:14:14 :( no presentzz? Sep 21 20:14:27 none =( Sep 21 20:15:29 lol Sep 21 20:20:37 rht I'll answer what I can Sep 21 21:05:24 yawn Sep 21 21:05:37 hi codeslaw Sep 21 21:05:43 oh hi Sep 21 21:05:49 did you get knocked off $10,000 yet? =D Sep 21 21:06:00 who knows, ze board hasnt updated Sep 21 21:06:10 it update yesterday, so it might be another 3 days =( Sep 21 21:06:41 hopefully i gain 10 rank within next 8 days =( Sep 21 21:06:44 looks like a lot of apps get updates almost every day Sep 21 21:06:51 for a while it updated everyday around 2pm, was really nice Sep 21 21:07:02 able to keep track of meaningful statistics Sep 21 21:07:05 now... useless Sep 21 21:07:48 at least you know you are higher than rednecks vs. alien Sep 21 21:07:59 and bunch of other apps are just waiting to be knockec out Sep 21 21:08:50 and what's with that stupid darth vader breath app? Sep 21 21:09:43 -_- Sep 21 21:10:02 its an awesome app =D Sep 21 21:10:15 did you make it? Sep 21 21:10:20 maybe =| Sep 21 21:10:36 omg Sep 21 21:10:42 what? Sep 21 21:13:54 * swisstomcat chokes nyceane with the darth vader death-grip Sep 21 21:14:46 die, weakling Sep 21 21:14:52 :) Sep 21 21:17:37 lol =D Sep 21 21:18:17 do you think it's going to get knocked out of the 10k prize Nyceane ? Sep 21 21:18:29 my original 3 apps were matrix flying down, spectrum, and this other shooter app i had in open GL Sep 21 21:18:59 codeslaw, i duno, i am keep updating just to keep up with these updates, i didnt update for a while and got knocked down few places Sep 21 21:19:12 its really dumb, but i don't know what's a good solution for it Sep 21 21:19:22 8 more days, 10k Sep 21 21:19:45 sigh, indeed Sep 21 21:19:51 i didn't update, and songwave dropped 4 places Sep 21 21:20:10 you can just do meta info update to just keep it up there Sep 21 21:20:19 instead of doing real updates, people seems to be complaining about that Sep 21 21:20:50 well i refrained from doing that because of annoying it is when everyone else does... but no choice now really if i want to stay up Sep 21 21:21:12 of course, every time i meta update i get placed 40 apps down the list, does me no good Sep 21 21:21:37 you dont have much of a choice Sep 21 21:21:41 unless you get press release Sep 21 21:21:53 40 down the list is better than nothing Sep 21 21:22:07 i got great press for a while Sep 21 21:22:17 review on webosround up, featured for 2 weeks in the app catalog Sep 21 21:22:19 well, duno how are you going to keep it up Sep 21 21:22:33 means nothing against the daily spam Sep 21 21:22:51 I know... Sep 21 21:23:00 and people are spamming it for a reason, it's 10g Sep 21 21:23:11 of course Sep 21 21:23:24 spam for 8 more days Sep 21 21:23:32 and you are done, think of it like that Sep 21 21:23:50 meta update gets you updated for sure, and it doesnt annoy your existing users Sep 21 21:24:09 I am actually doing that right now as well, people got really annoyed with constant updates Sep 21 21:24:28 I do plan to make these apps into profitable apps someday, with existing adoption Sep 21 21:24:39 which apps? Sep 21 21:24:51 darth vader breath Sep 21 21:25:18 i dont have a device to test, makes it very hard for me to make other features =| Sep 21 21:25:33 er, what's it do? Sep 21 21:26:29 download it and u'd see lol Sep 21 21:26:57 n8 everyone Sep 21 21:27:03 later swiss Sep 21 21:27:18 night swiss Sep 21 21:27:22 * swisstomcat tries out the death star ray on nyceane Sep 21 21:27:30 *bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz* Sep 21 21:27:39 lol Sep 21 21:30:36 really? Sep 21 21:30:38 this is it? Sep 21 21:30:47 yah, pretty much Sep 21 21:30:50