**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Oct 16 02:59:58 2010 Oct 16 03:06:00 just launched a new app...totally excited about this one! Oct 16 03:07:02 link Oct 16 03:07:09 http://developer.palm.com/appredirect/?packageid=com.pjnation.ahangmanhaunting Oct 16 03:07:17 but its not working for some reason Oct 16 03:07:29 this is it on precentral Oct 16 03:07:30 http://www.precentral.net/app-gallery/app-catalog/a-hangman-haunting Oct 16 03:10:48 could someone help me get docter battery to work please, I let it go all the way down too 3.413, and it fails everytime, is there a trick? Oct 16 03:13:14 whoolio: looks nice. Oct 16 03:13:26 thanks Oct 16 03:13:35 this is the ipad demo if you want ot try it Oct 16 03:13:37 http://www.pjnation.com/hmdemo/ Oct 16 03:13:43 xbonesx: no idea what that even is. Oct 16 03:14:06 tyri it on chrome of safari Oct 16 03:14:14 dont bother with IE... Oct 16 03:14:18 firefox is ok Oct 16 03:15:15 cool. Oct 16 03:15:44 thanks again! Oct 16 03:15:55 haeffb: it helps restore ur battery from what it says, it's in preware "Dr. Battery" Oct 16 03:17:16 whoolio: I lost. Couldn't get "Dracula" Oct 16 03:17:21 haha Oct 16 03:17:48 in test mode when i only had on eword in the system...i woudl still lose Oct 16 03:17:52 lol Oct 16 03:24:55 hm, anyone used setStyle in Mojo? Oct 16 03:25:33 * oil has used it in webdev, but never in mojo Oct 16 03:25:46 * halfhalo doesn't know html Oct 16 03:26:29 you ever tried using it with something like... -webkit-transform? it doesn't seem to like the starting - :p Oct 16 03:26:43 so, I leave and then big news bombs drop? I guess I need to leave more often :D Oct 16 03:26:54 lol Oct 16 03:27:12 also, oil: you're the dev behind Lumberjack right? Oct 16 03:27:15 isnt setstyle done with a json type thing? Oct 16 03:27:27 heh.., oil... dev... Oct 16 03:27:27 yes Oct 16 03:27:48 oil: setStyl does take a JSON object Oct 16 03:27:52 http://api.prototypejs.org/dom/element/setstyle/ Oct 16 03:27:54 setStyle even Oct 16 03:28:25 SineOtter: .style['-webkit-transform'] Oct 16 03:28:44 * oil doesnt find himself setting just styles Oct 16 03:28:52 * oil usually creates a class and uses those Oct 16 03:30:15 I'd do a class, but I need to adjust the thiing via javascript, so I'm going to need to adjust the setting anyways (unless I'm TOTALLY missing something else too) Oct 16 03:30:22 SineOtter: can't use . notation with properties that have a '-' in them Oct 16 03:30:32 have to use array notation Oct 16 03:30:46 looks nice whoolio Oct 16 03:30:54 object.style.backgroundColor="#00FF00" Oct 16 03:30:57 oh, yeah, oil: is there a way to rapidly jump to the bottom/top in Lumberjack? Oct 16 03:31:06 is normally with a - in it Oct 16 03:31:12 right Oct 16 03:31:13 * haeffb needs to get this "lumberjack" Oct 16 03:31:13 there is not Oct 16 03:31:19 i could add a way Oct 16 03:31:29 but -webkit-transform doesn't 'exist' as far as js knows Oct 16 03:31:49 hmm, that makes this all the more confusing Oct 16 03:31:54 element.style.webkitTransform = "rotate(-2deg)"; Oct 16 03:32:05 does that work? Oct 16 03:32:12 only one way to find out Oct 16 03:32:13 I think I tried that once Oct 16 03:32:17 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/708895/how-to-set-the-style-webkit-transform-dynamically-using-javascript Oct 16 03:32:18 but can't remember Oct 16 03:32:18 googled it Oct 16 03:32:21 nice Oct 16 03:32:34 internet is too slow for google here at the 'rents house Oct 16 03:32:36 * oil is a red belt in google-fu Oct 16 03:33:01 lol Oct 16 03:33:53 * halfhalo is an eleventy belt in bing Oct 16 03:34:02 lol Oct 16 03:34:14 haeffb: its in preware Oct 16 03:34:28 hmm hmm hmm, thank you oil~ Oct 16 03:34:30 thats what she said Oct 16 03:35:01 lol Oct 16 03:35:27 * halfhalo needs to find his high speed sd card for moving files from mac mini to desktop since gigabit ethernet is being slow Oct 16 03:35:53 wah Oct 16 03:36:23 could someone help me get docter battery to work please, I let it go all the way down too 3.413, and it fails everytime, is there a trick? Oct 16 03:37:32 gigabit too slow, haha Oct 16 03:37:42 * haeffb needs to get this "preware" Oct 16 03:38:05 haeffb: YOU DON'T HAVE LUMBERJACK?!?! WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU?!?! Oct 16 03:38:08 it is for my needs Oct 16 03:38:21 xbonesx: does it tell you to put it on a charger? Oct 16 03:38:25 * haeffb uses "palm-log" Oct 16 03:38:29 it should have like, a giant thing saying "PUT THIS ON THE CHARGER" Oct 16 03:38:45 haeffb: but lumberjack is sooooo much cooler Oct 16 03:38:52 its funny Oct 16 03:39:01 * haeffb has lumberjack Oct 16 03:39:02 because the idea for lumberjack came from the preware thread Oct 16 03:39:10 yep and and as soon as that hits I do, and then it says it fails to cali. right away Oct 16 03:39:30 * haeffb waiting for a wirc update Oct 16 03:39:33 then wait for a few seconds after it hits that point THEN put it on the charger Oct 16 03:39:39 oh hey, looks like the Rangers remembered they were the Rangers Oct 16 03:39:52 haeffb: too many projects, not enough time :) Oct 16 03:40:30 * halfhalo is waiting for a wirc update as well Oct 16 03:40:55 so, how much has the oil fund collected so far? Oct 16 03:40:59 tried and it either dies before I get it n or says it fails,i would like to add that my battery is pretty bad, rather than 20 to 0 in seconds, it more like 50-40 to 0 in seconds Oct 16 03:41:26 then you might just have a battery that's way beyond what dr. battery could help with? :s Oct 16 03:41:31 what does it say the health is Oct 16 03:41:36 rwhitby sent be $20 :) Oct 16 03:41:43 s/be/me/ Oct 16 03:41:55 thats enough for... food. for a day Oct 16 03:42:07 you can wait on updating wIRC until the Pixi gets hybrid app support ;P Oct 16 03:42:13 when I first started the dr., said 83% Oct 16 03:42:24 * oil has hopes Oct 16 03:42:27 for health Oct 16 03:42:46 * halfhalo has -monies, else he would send monies Oct 16 03:48:33 any thoughts on the 83%? Oct 16 03:49:25 SineOtter: ? Oct 16 03:49:51 it's low but it shouldn't be dropping about 50% in like a few seconds Oct 16 03:50:25 the calibrate function is based on the battery protection circuit putting itself into calibrate mode Oct 16 03:50:54 which from the sound of it, is having such a tiny window that it's basically impossible to get it onto a charger in time Oct 16 03:51:29 but the phone never dies I can get the charger plugged back in before it dies... Oct 16 03:56:04 how long does it take for it die after it tells you to put it on a charger? Oct 16 03:56:45 about 30-45 sometimes up too a min Oct 16 03:58:46 look, a wircer! Oct 16 03:59:06 oh Oct 16 03:59:17 imagine that Oct 16 03:59:28 lol that makes two of us Oct 16 04:00:05 SineOtter: still here? Oct 16 04:00:13 yup Oct 16 04:00:13 the only two users :/ Oct 16 04:00:43 okay so wait, after Dr. Battery says to put it on a charger to calibrate, it takes anywhere from 30-45 seconds to a minute to actually turn off? Oct 16 04:03:09 no actually I think the volt fluxes, so it will hit 3.413 and then shoot back up taking it out of "learnf" Oct 16 04:03:31 hm Oct 16 04:04:07 and that's why it's failing I think... but right now you have reset the health to 100 and am going to let it charge all the way then let it die and try to cali. it then Oct 16 04:04:17 I have * Oct 16 04:08:39 the actual number was in the 900 range and iguess 100% is like 1183 or something Oct 16 04:12:08 how in world do you escape a ' in a string c_c; Oct 16 04:15:10 note to self: '\' doesn't work, but "' does :I Oct 16 04:17:15 huh? was that towards me Oct 16 04:17:52 no, more general question Oct 16 04:18:06 trying to concocate a string and going "wat fff" Oct 16 04:19:15 SineOtter: what are you trying to concat? Oct 16 04:19:58 Moooooo Oct 16 04:20:07 hey halfhalo Oct 16 04:20:14 Hola Oct 16 04:21:08 JenP: webkitTransform takes values in 'translateX(value)' and I'd like to insert my variable into value Oct 16 04:21:37 Ya know, wirc is a damn good irc client compared to androi Oct 16 04:21:54 http://webos.pastebin.com/kBRXiVC2 Oct 16 04:24:01 halfhalo: yeah, it's nice. I like it. can't wait to be able to use 3.x Oct 16 04:24:31 * halfhalo misses it Oct 16 04:25:33 JenP: any ideas, since that's not working? Oct 16 04:25:54 what does the log come up with Oct 16 04:26:10 the proper string, in this case, "translateX(25)" Oct 16 04:26:13 herp one second Oct 16 04:28:19 thought it might not be functioning because I wasn't declaring I wanted pixels, but it's still sitting idle :p Oct 16 04:29:03 theoretically, would "translateX("+value+" px)" work? Oct 16 04:29:10 id ont know if htis helps the conversation but i use jqurey to transform... $('#eleementid').attr('style', "-webkit-transform: rotate(5deg);"); Oct 16 04:29:20 excuse the typos Oct 16 04:29:32 the code is correct though Oct 16 04:29:44 wouldn't that require me to bundle jQuery in? Oct 16 04:30:09 i use it with ares by just referencing it noramlly Oct 16 04:30:34 Oct 16 04:30:54 and thats how i did the animations in my app i listed early Oct 16 04:30:56 earlier Oct 16 04:31:06 yeah Oct 16 04:31:31 I have decidedly less animation though Oct 16 04:31:58 thopse 2 files are only about 225 kb together Oct 16 04:33:07 yeah, but 225kb for one animation is a bit overkill lol Oct 16 04:33:41 well u could just make the animation a class and then apply it to the element Oct 16 04:35:48 what the transition time for the animation Oct 16 04:35:51 ? Oct 16 04:37:26 varies Oct 16 04:37:27 but! Oct 16 04:37:31 the code you posted helped a ton Oct 16 04:38:01 im workign on somethign fo ryou Oct 16 04:38:22 3 minutes Oct 16 04:39:31 anyways, what I'm trying to do: using translateX(value), I'm trying to shift a div side to side to align it with the current GPS velocity Oct 16 04:39:45 for a large scrolling speedometer display that will shift side to side Oct 16 04:39:57 hi Adora!! Oct 16 04:40:23 why not just use the x-position ? Oct 16 04:40:37 dkirker: hihi Oct 16 04:40:38 set the x-position Oct 16 04:41:06 sorry....the "left" value in the css Oct 16 04:41:23 example position:absolute; left:99px; top:31px; Oct 16 04:41:48 -webkit-transform: translate() animates smoothly between the two positions Oct 16 04:41:50 instead of jumping Oct 16 04:52:59 this worked for me Oct 16 04:53:01 document.getElementById("speedometer").style.webkitTransform = "rotate(180deg) translate(10px, 75px)" Oct 16 04:53:36 hm Oct 16 04:53:51 my issue is that for translate, I want a variable for 10px Oct 16 04:53:56 which gets changed elsewhere in the code Oct 16 04:55:04 function moveit(xvar) { Oct 16 04:55:06 document.getElementById("speedometer").style.webkitTransform = "translateX(" + xvar" px, 75px)" Oct 16 04:55:08 } Oct 16 04:55:20 then just call the fuction when u need it Oct 16 04:55:22 moveit(xvar) Oct 16 04:55:41 substituting xvar with the number Oct 16 04:56:15 sorry that line shoudl have been Oct 16 04:56:22 document.getElementById("speedometer").style.webkitTransform = "translateX(" + xvar + " px, 75px)" Oct 16 04:56:45 this works...i tested it in Ares Oct 16 04:58:58 hey, hi Adora, long time no chat :D Oct 16 05:02:27 SineOtter: is that workign for you? Oct 16 05:03:11 * Tibfib wants to go to dev day. Oct 16 05:03:30 me 2 Oct 16 05:03:32 `/me does as well Oct 16 05:04:17 maybe someday with a midwest dev day. Oct 16 05:11:07 I am pissed at myself for not taking time off to go to the one in Sunnyvale. I hope another one happens soon. Oct 16 05:15:06 actually, I am mad at myself for letting myself get so disjointed from Palm and webOS... Oct 16 05:15:19 hm? Oct 16 05:16:08 We were just commenting on Palm Dev Day. Tibfib wants a midwest one, and I can't wait for another West Coast one (I didn't let myself go to the last one). Oct 16 05:16:28 I'd love a west coast one Oct 16 05:16:45 the sf one was fun Oct 16 05:17:17 I'd love to go to SF, it's awesome Oct 16 05:17:24 it is! Oct 16 05:17:26 yup Oct 16 05:18:05 I can't wait to move up to the Bay Area after I am out of school. :) Oct 16 05:18:46 lol... I love that I built this image so that it'd be real easy for me to know how many pixels to move it for 1mph, and that it's been so long that I can't remember how many pixels = 1mph :T Oct 16 05:19:23 sineotter...didn't u get the code working?. Oct 16 05:19:32 yeah, I did Oct 16 05:19:43 but I can't remember what my image offsets were D: Oct 16 06:19:13 i need some help installing an app to the andriod emulator Oct 16 06:19:21 can anyone help? Oct 16 06:20:13 thsi is #webos... Oct 16 06:20:59 haha...yeha im porting my webos app to andoird Oct 16 06:21:07 thought some here woudl know something Oct 16 06:27:36 yay :9 got to test my app a bit Oct 16 06:27:37 works great Oct 16 06:29:20 cool! Oct 16 06:29:22 congrats Oct 16 07:21:32 Good morning Oct 16 07:21:37 rwhitby are you here? Oct 16 07:21:47 morning Oct 16 07:25:48 hey hotdp Oct 16 07:26:05 good morning Oct 16 07:28:19 why is that app sget listed in the app catalog but you can't download them or buy them sometimes Oct 16 07:28:40 Sometimes it is due to updates on the app Oct 16 07:28:53 i hate to be critical but those are missed sales Oct 16 07:29:04 I have tried that, while my app was "comitted" it took some hours before it worked as it should Oct 16 07:29:17 But are we talking days? Oct 16 07:29:25 about 8 hour snow Oct 16 07:29:50 it shoudl really be updated everywhere it needs to be and then lsted last Oct 16 07:30:42 oh well... Oct 16 07:31:02 hotdp, do u know about porting to android? Oct 16 07:36:09 I'm going to be disappointed if I can develop, test, and ship an app before Palm gets back to me about developer devices. :I Oct 16 07:36:31 sineotter, what do u mean? Oct 16 07:36:39 do you mean the free device program? Oct 16 07:36:50 emailed Palm about the free device program the 29th, still haven't heard back Oct 16 07:36:59 I have tryed to "port" yes but gave up, remember GUI ? Oct 16 07:37:08 I'm probably going to finish this app before I hear back :/ Oct 16 07:37:14 hotdp...yeah/.//haha Oct 16 07:37:20 im installing eclipse on my pc now Oct 16 07:37:22 SineOtter did they not close it before 29? Oct 16 07:37:35 eclipse is good, i use it for webos ;) Oct 16 07:37:43 ive been struggling with the terminal on mac all night Oct 16 07:37:49 which version do you use? Oct 16 07:37:50 If they did, then they sure never said it anywhere. They said it's open until October 30th Oct 16 07:38:25 where did u email? Oct 16 07:38:54 SineOtter i know, but where the "link"/article still there? Oct 16 07:39:08 "Free Pre Plus to Qualified Developers, through October 31, contact us now at pdc@palm.com " Oct 16 07:39:15 Eclipse version? mean number or "version" Oct 16 07:39:23 version Oct 16 07:39:32 The one Palm teles you to get :) Oct 16 07:39:43 tells Oct 16 07:39:46 im installing Eclipse IDE for Java EE Developer Oct 16 07:39:52 oh Oct 16 07:40:02 1 sec Oct 16 07:40:12 maybe 10 Oct 16 07:41:01 http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.5.2-201002111343/index.php Oct 16 07:41:11 https://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1639&Itemid=21 Oct 16 07:42:36 i emailed that addres on the 24th and heard back on the 27th. Oct 16 07:43:01 nnngh, I emailed the 29th and STILL haven't heard back Oct 16 07:43:04 not to have my earlier comment misunderstood...palm is really great overall Oct 16 07:43:09 not even a "no closed the program" Oct 16 07:46:44 tansk hotdp Oct 16 08:03:21 np Oct 16 08:07:43 hotdp...did u get my message lstnight about the airbnb.com site? Oct 16 08:07:51 for finding a place in NYC? Oct 16 08:07:56 Yes thanks :D Oct 16 08:08:02 Have been looking Oct 16 08:08:15 id offer uy a place ot crash but i got a baby here Oct 16 08:08:27 and i barely sleep... Oct 16 08:08:32 very kind of you, no problem :) Oct 16 08:08:34 plus im 2 horus away from the city Oct 16 08:09:03 i may crash at a friends in the city myself Oct 16 08:09:03 Where you taking the train or car? Oct 16 08:09:15 ill be taking the train Oct 16 08:09:18 (thinking about if you ready for a drink) :) Oct 16 08:09:21 driving is too much a pain Oct 16 08:09:37 thanks! Oct 16 08:09:51 ill take a redbull! Oct 16 08:10:11 hehe ok Oct 16 08:10:17 double shot! Oct 16 08:10:31 deal :P Oct 16 08:10:41 I have to go to a hifi event now, bbl Oct 16 08:11:52 later Oct 16 11:57:13 afternoon Oct 16 12:16:01 morn'n swisstomcat Oct 16 12:16:46 hi bmyers Oct 16 12:20:34 how is swisslandia today? Oct 16 12:27:08 hey swisstomcat Oct 16 12:27:22 Did you read the news about rwhitby Oct 16 12:27:23 ? Oct 16 12:27:47 hi hotdp Oct 16 12:27:50 yeah, i read it Oct 16 12:27:55 too bad i can't come :/ Oct 16 12:28:06 bmyers: workin on an app update .. rainy outside Oct 16 12:28:40 The funny thing is that we said that he shall speak Oct 16 12:28:49 and he said that he did not know what to speak about :D Oct 16 12:28:57 and you said that people will love it Oct 16 12:29:16 yeah Oct 16 12:29:20 that was funny Oct 16 12:29:24 :) Oct 16 12:29:38 But i think it will be the bees knees in NYC:D Oct 16 12:29:55 yeah, i wish i could go Oct 16 12:29:57 oh well Oct 16 12:30:02 i'm looking forward to it Oct 16 12:30:15 swisstomcat i know :/ there is nothing you can do :) Oct 16 14:20:28 Hi, Oct 16 14:21:28 I recently had to swap my broken Pre for a Pre Plus and tried to install my backup from Pre Backup Utility Oct 16 14:22:24 It seems to have screwed up my contacts and SMS messages so I have WebOS doctored my phone and completely set it up from fresh. It has now pulled all my mail and my facebook contacts but has lost all my normal contacts and phone numbers. Oct 16 14:23:06 I have the backup of the palmdatabase.db3 but can't find where the phone numbers are stored Oct 16 14:23:16 does anyone know where I can extract them from? Oct 16 14:35:49 did you look at that file? Oct 16 14:38:38 yeah I have opened it with SQLite Database Browser. There is a table com_palm_pim_Person which has all their details in except the phone number!? Oct 16 14:38:54 hmm Oct 16 14:39:42 com_palm_pim_ContactPoint – Has one entry per contactdetail (Phonenumbers ...) Oct 16 14:39:48 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/PalmDatabase.db3_File Oct 16 14:42:19 ah, thanks for the pointer to that url, there is an example perl script there to create a CSV Oct 16 15:56:03 the day has finally come where I need psuedodrawers inside lists. Oct 16 15:58:26 need help with them? Oct 16 15:59:05 I might. I'm going to verbatim copy the webos101 example and see how far I get with that. Oct 16 16:01:10 i'm doing something similar Oct 16 16:01:35 Although I dont know how much trust I can put in haeffb's code O_O :P Oct 16 16:01:40 hehe Oct 16 16:02:16 I can tell you that I do not trust it...! Oct 16 16:02:26 I KNEW IT Oct 16 16:02:35 ...but I use it anyway. Oct 16 16:02:36 he's a fraud! Oct 16 16:02:54 all his apps were actually coded by his son Oct 16 16:03:15 Illegitimate son from south korea* Oct 16 16:03:29 north korea i thought? Oct 16 16:03:34 right that one Oct 16 16:03:35 or was it iran? Oct 16 16:03:47 he was actually born on the border of north and south. So he's half and half Oct 16 16:03:57 Like literrally ON the border Oct 16 16:04:08 like on the no-mans land? Oct 16 16:04:35 no like, the line on the ground that separates each country Oct 16 16:04:48 half his body was on north and half his body was on south Oct 16 16:05:07 oh really Oct 16 16:05:17 Yea they almost started a war over it Oct 16 16:05:17 makes him an excellent javascript programmer though Oct 16 16:05:24 they were gonna cut him in half. Oct 16 16:05:28 Yea he can do 2 things at once Oct 16 16:06:17 He can program in webos while simultaneously interpretting correctly, the latest version of webos docs Oct 16 16:09:45 hi, im having problems with dr. battery could someone help me, i let it sit doing nothing until it hit 3.413, but it fluxes so when it hits 3.413 it jumps back up making the app fail Oct 16 16:16:57 for some reason it doesnt want to sit at that voltage or lower... ? Oct 16 16:19:42 xbonesx: you should try #webos-internals Oct 16 16:21:30 yeah, i'd try there Oct 16 16:21:35 the developer might be around Oct 16 16:24:32 lol im in their too Oct 16 16:24:52 i forget who the dev is... Oct 16 16:25:03 help menu? Oct 16 16:25:31 lol phone is charging lol Oct 16 16:25:40 so you'r really stuck Oct 16 16:25:51 lol i guess so Oct 16 16:26:12 i tried to let it go down and it died lol Oct 16 16:28:19 Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Oct 16 16:31:21 ya ive tried multiple times, ive changed the voltage start. its weird, it goes low enough to get into learnf but then jumps back up to too high of a voltage im assuming then it fails, assuming this is why its failing Oct 16 17:00:22 WOW Oct 16 17:00:33 it actually started the cali, thanks anyways Oct 16 17:09:10 haeffb why isnt your code working. Oct 16 17:09:29 I dont see any drawers when Clicks teh links Oct 16 17:10:37 Clicks the Lynx sounds like a mascot based 90s game Oct 16 17:13:11 we could produce that and have it as a webos exclusive Oct 16 17:15:37 anyone know how shut off the ability to make or take calls, but still have 3g or 1x net? Oct 16 17:29:01 any takers? Oct 16 17:29:43 im basically wanting to be able to use tethering without having calls or txt interrupt the service... Oct 16 17:37:09 http://pastebin.com/bpJYwXjk Can anyone tell me why I'm getting the error: http://pastebin.com/bpJYwXjk Oct 16 17:37:11 oops Oct 16 17:37:19 Error: Error: character is not defined, line object, file undefined, palmInitFramework347:2527 Oct 16 17:58:08 anyonenenne Oct 16 17:58:26 bbl nap. Oct 16 18:00:52 anyone know to how shut off the ability to make or take calls, but still have 3g or 1x net? Oct 16 18:27:32 one thing i like about 4g is ability to use data on a call Oct 16 18:28:07 gsm can do that too Oct 16 18:28:09 :) Oct 16 18:28:16 i know Oct 16 18:28:25 on 3G Oct 16 18:28:50 meh, the epic is pissing me off more and more as I use it Oct 16 18:29:01 i love that phone Oct 16 18:32:17 it likes to beep alot Oct 16 18:35:12 turn it off Oct 16 20:14:16 Anivrom: new this.character() Oct 16 20:14:23 ahhhhhh Oct 16 20:14:25 :P Oct 16 20:14:51 I figured out anoher way but now that makes sense Oct 16 20:15:16 I just made character a global without knowing it and it worked so I stuck with it Oct 16 20:17:01 your drawers clean? Oct 16 20:17:10 ?? Oct 16 20:24:24 So, anyone get a free device from the program by Palm? Oct 16 20:24:30 not yet Oct 16 20:27:01 Anivrom: I got an email saying "Based on the information received I have gone ahead and qualified you for a free Palm Pre Device. I would love to speak with you more in regards to your plans for developing applications for webOS." and asked what they wanted to know.. haven't heard back Oct 16 20:27:24 Did you guys get more information about the device? Or just a "you qualify"? Oct 16 20:28:45 I haven't heard anything at all. It seems really, really poorly run :/ Oct 16 20:28:57 Tibfib: must be a form email. Oct 16 20:29:36 hmm. I think so Oct 16 20:30:59 haeffb: you going to dev day? Oct 16 20:32:58 or anyone else? Oct 16 20:33:35 meh too much money Oct 16 20:34:05 Anivrom: where are you again? Oct 16 20:34:13 southern ontario canada Oct 16 20:34:17 just above buffalo Oct 16 20:34:23 I knew it was canada! Oct 16 20:34:28 yea eh Oct 16 20:35:06 ok so psuedo drawers inside lists. the webos101 example seems far too complex than mine needs to be Oct 16 20:35:42 Anivrom: you are a lot closer than me Oct 16 20:36:17 Anivrom: I have a sample of a list of drawers, with lists in the drawers. Oct 16 20:36:40 is it something a 2 year old could figure out? cause if not I wont be able to understand it Oct 16 20:37:00 Anivrom: I barely understand it myself. Uses wacky code Oct 16 20:37:06 Tibfib: yes I am Oct 16 20:37:15 haeffb: flying out of KCI? Oct 16 20:37:32 err, MCI Oct 16 20:37:35 Can you pass that code along? Oct 16 20:37:47 most likely. I'll be in Kansas that week, depends on when I come back to MO. Oct 16 20:38:09 haeffb: trying to figure out a way to go here Oct 16 20:38:09 Anivrom: pseudo drawers in list is MUCH simpler than actual drawers in lists Oct 16 20:38:27 well I couldnt understand your example so I'm dumb. Oct 16 20:38:43 your example was very much specific to Noted Oct 16 20:38:59 http://www.webos101.com Oct 16 20:39:20 wow whats that webpage about? never seen it before Oct 16 20:39:31 do they have a notes example of psuedo drawers or smoething? Oct 16 20:39:38 :P Oct 16 20:40:12 * haeffb needed a link to click on Oct 16 20:40:23