**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Dec 15 02:59:57 2010 Dec 15 04:04:17 anybody here? Dec 15 04:11:21 nope! :p Dec 15 06:10:25 anything new with webOS? Dec 15 06:34:58 alexfner: yeah they just announced a sex android that runs webOS Dec 15 06:36:29 the android took over the development dept.? Dec 15 07:09:20 Good morning Dec 15 07:09:46 hotdp: how did your troll battle go yesterday? Dec 15 07:10:36 HAHA Dec 15 07:10:47 After the last line he was silent Dec 15 07:11:32 [15:29:28s] Yes i call it dis " I can't even look at the pre anymore. Feels like a toy" <-- Last line i wrote and he never said anything back. Dec 15 07:11:59 hey hotdp how ya doing.. Dec 15 07:12:15 ? Dec 15 07:12:37 I was fighting a Troll Dec 15 07:12:58 anyone know where i can find the patch from sconix "Gesture Tap Move" (tap to move your icons across pages..) instead of dragging them... (really would like to have that again:/) Dec 15 07:13:12 oh, .. i was just saying hello. Dec 15 07:13:31 you get any further on that app with the danish words? Dec 15 07:13:35 Ahh thought it was a comment to the line, sorry Dec 15 07:13:40 yes! Dec 15 07:13:48 I have hit a problem Dec 15 07:13:54 cool :) uhoh whats that? Dec 15 07:13:56 You can only add 900 shortcuts Dec 15 07:14:06 then the shortcut function "die" Dec 15 07:14:41 There is a bug or limitation Palm did not know of (they must never have tested it with so many words) Dec 15 07:14:47 how many are you looking to make available? infinite? Dec 15 07:15:00 hahaha.. probably not.. :) heh Dec 15 07:15:06 hmm 90.000 would be perfect. Dec 15 07:15:21 I talked to Ben C and they where "looking at it" as they did not know the bug Dec 15 07:15:28 oh, right.. i remember that now.. heh Dec 15 07:15:35 hehe Dec 15 07:15:50 oh great.. maybe will get an update . :) Dec 15 07:16:14 I am just worried about "looking at it" vs. "working on a fix" Dec 15 07:16:19 kinda sucks to do all that then hit a limitation like that tho i bet.. :/ Dec 15 07:16:22 does anyone here use amazon aws? Dec 15 07:16:27 we're looking at it Dec 15 07:16:32 we've got some great new products in the pipeline Dec 15 07:16:34 solix yes Dec 15 07:16:41 we're gonna have a fix real soon Dec 15 07:16:47 been there.. lol Dec 15 07:17:12 check out this photograph shot with a palm pre Dec 15 07:17:30 solix and if i knew a little more about the framworkd i would understand what the error was Dec 15 07:17:50 i hear ya,.. kinda tied hands atm .. Dec 15 07:17:50 because before it dies it "crashes" Dec 15 07:18:02 hmp Dec 15 07:19:02 that is one good thing about a crash, you get the dump to sort through.. :) Dec 15 07:22:07 But yes, its sad to find a limitation in the system and not your own code, because i can't do anything but wait.. My danish friends are sad.. Dec 15 07:27:06 rwhitby the tweet you made 5 hours ago was good reading Dec 15 07:55:05 * hotdp thinks 80% of the comments on PC is people complaining on no new hardware or no Pre 2 on Sprint Dec 15 07:55:43 Sprint complaints seem to be 95% of them, ive seen them too.. Dec 15 07:57:21 I think i will stop looking at the comments Dec 15 07:57:34 Its very "none informative" Dec 15 07:57:39 yea Dec 15 07:57:43 solix: what are you up to? Dec 15 07:58:01 hey what Eclipse version should i get, that you know of? Dec 15 07:58:15 just reading up on dev.. beginning. getting duck in line. :) Dec 15 07:58:20 er, ducks Dec 15 07:59:21 I think i installed the version from the Palm site Dec 15 07:59:46 What envirement are you used to ? Dec 15 08:00:01 yeah, was just gonna say nvm.. :) just found it.. (again) i keep forgetting about the site. Dec 15 08:00:10 none, in particular.. you have a suggestion? Dec 15 08:00:30 ive really only done HTML Dec 15 08:00:39 so far. Dec 15 08:00:43 and what do you use for that? Dec 15 08:00:50 oh, and scripting.. eh. Dec 15 08:01:14 dreamweaver, & adobe(1/2).. Dec 15 08:01:42 trillian on windows sometimes Dec 15 08:02:37 OKi Dec 15 08:02:48 Then try eclipse :) Dec 15 08:02:55 But are you not on windows? Dec 15 08:02:58 haha. alright. :) Dec 15 08:03:13 i have all 3, win, osx, and linux Dec 15 08:03:23 oki Dec 15 08:03:28 not in vm, on the desk. ;) Dec 15 08:03:39 i know some are using textmate for osx Dec 15 08:03:45 ey yall Dec 15 08:04:05 hmm, ok, i wil not that if i ftry the mac side.. thanks :) Dec 15 08:04:07 hey torchie Dec 15 08:04:09 sup? Dec 15 08:04:11 not much Dec 15 08:04:37 just staying up late, eating half a pecan pie, and reading 4chan archive Dec 15 08:05:01 why not the whole pie? you lazy? ;) hehe Dec 15 08:05:17 well nah, the half pie was all that was left Dec 15 08:05:35 also tried to make hot chocolate with chocolate bars Dec 15 08:05:39 pecan pie is good. :) Dec 15 08:05:45 pecan pie is the best! Dec 15 08:05:46 wont work.. lol Dec 15 08:05:50 ive tried that b4 Dec 15 08:05:52 yeah I found that out the hard way Dec 15 08:06:08 I thought "maybe I'll get lucky if I use gourmet 90% cocoa bars!" Dec 15 08:06:09 u can put them IN the hotchoco tho.. kinda makes it better.. Dec 15 08:06:13 what bars did you use? Dec 15 08:06:24 * solix welcomes everyone to "WebOS Cooking 101".. ;) Dec 15 08:06:29 lol Dec 15 08:06:31 lol Dec 15 08:06:35 hershy Dec 15 08:06:40 or whatever i had atm Dec 15 08:07:08 bakers choco might work.. dunno. gave it up after the first time. Dec 15 08:07:15 prolly tho Dec 15 08:07:48 90%.. whoa.. that stuff is STRONG Dec 15 08:07:49 haha Dec 15 08:08:03 my wife usually eats 70% Dec 15 08:08:10 love s the stuff.. me, not so much. Dec 15 08:08:29 yer it can be to high Dec 15 08:08:46 good for you tho.. so i hear.. Dec 15 08:08:51 then its just "dry" Dec 15 08:09:08 healthy.... i would say less unhealthy :P Dec 15 08:09:10 yeah, xactly.. like powder/cocoa.. :) Dec 15 08:09:23 but uer there is some good things in cocoa Dec 15 08:09:35 hehe, no, choclate is actually really good for you, in fair amounts.. Dec 15 08:09:57 like coffee, but most dont go by those reasons when they have it.. heh Dec 15 08:11:14 syrup choclate, in milk, then heated could be alright.. Dec 15 08:11:24 :P Dec 15 08:12:35 egads, 4 hours for all my apps to get reinstalled/updated ... 225+ some.. :/ Dec 15 08:12:46 not including patches. Dec 15 08:14:47 just installed meta-doctor.. looking forward to using the backup/restore option next time.. hehe Dec 15 08:19:24 225 whaaa Dec 15 08:19:28 do you have a pre plus Dec 15 08:19:35 yes :) Dec 15 08:19:49 not pre2 though :/ Dec 15 08:20:16 still have about 8GB fre space.. :) Dec 15 08:20:29 * hotdp still wating on hes free Pre Plus from Palm... Dec 15 08:20:56 why for? app award? Dec 15 08:21:15 The developer device Dec 15 08:21:36 why free though? you have submited apps? Dec 15 08:21:58 You have not heard about it? it was like 3 months or more ago Dec 15 08:22:06 anyone ever use html offline cache? Dec 15 08:22:08 you could ask for a free Pre PLus Dec 15 08:22:19 But yes i have apps in the catalog Dec 15 08:22:33 for every/any dev person? no i ever heard of that, i just started about 2months ago. Dec 15 08:22:56 ahh oki Dec 15 08:23:00 i saw somewhere something about that, but *think* it had a prerequistite of some sorts... Dec 15 08:23:18 If you where dev or would like to be a dev you could ask for a device Dec 15 08:23:29 dang. would be nice.. im lking at ebay, or used for $50 to make my dev_pre. :) Dec 15 08:24:11 You could ask for a Pre 2 dev device with rebate Dec 15 08:24:22 yes, i have that.. coupon. Dec 15 08:24:27 200$ Dec 15 08:24:48 not a bad price, seens how they are uncontracted selling for 7-900 hundread usd.. ://// Dec 15 08:24:57 yer Dec 15 08:25:13 bbiab Dec 15 08:43:02 bump Dec 15 08:53:47 solix whats up? having problems? Dec 15 08:54:29 eh, working them out. . cleaning files, and patches.. nothing unexpected. :) Dec 15 08:56:00 i forget i can .ping or do a server command.. :/ Dec 15 08:56:55 i also need to 'learn' to tweet.. heehe Dec 15 08:57:17 haha i "learned" that 1 month ago Dec 15 08:57:49 i just restarted my account the other day.. have had it for a few/couple years tho. :/ Dec 15 08:58:14 kind of like FB, had one when they started, but just started using it about a year ago.. Dec 15 08:59:08 I don't like FB anymore Dec 15 08:59:19 all there is in there is woman talking about there kids Dec 15 08:59:29 and what there kids did today Dec 15 08:59:31 ect. Dec 15 08:59:33 yeah, i just keep in touch with some LD family, photo storage, mostly.. Dec 15 08:59:40 Twetter is more informative i think Dec 15 08:59:45 *Twitter Dec 15 08:59:49 and the kids playing "quizes" LOl Dec 15 09:00:09 yes Dec 15 09:00:14 yes, when you follow the right ones.. :) Dec 15 09:12:19 bbl Dec 15 09:30:07 man you can fuck up an offline cache so that the application will not go get any new resources Dec 15 09:30:31 just did that, had to clear my browser history cache etc. completely cause I couldn't get the page to request new resources Dec 15 09:31:04 and if you add an html application to your home screen on your iPad, offline support no longer works Dec 15 09:37:22 * solix has Advanced Launcer Config again.. :) reinstalling all previous patches now.. hehe Dec 15 09:38:22 gawsh, and to think i *just recognised the "Save List" in Preware... ugh. hahha (i reallllly need to read things close.. ;) >rwhitby :) Dec 15 10:42:06 okay, Palm, I love you. but... holy hell. Http://developer.palm.com/appredirect/?packageid=com.cannytechnologies.celebrityinstanttweets&applicationid=6062 Dec 15 10:42:24 the screenshots for the app have an Android status bar on them Dec 15 10:42:48 HOW did this ever get past the review team? lol Dec 15 12:44:04 Are node.js services usable Dec 15 12:44:12 *only usable by the application they are packaged with? Dec 15 12:44:44 usable? jet node.js is usable :D Dec 15 12:45:14 lol I hit enter by accident Dec 15 12:46:00 do you wonna know if a node.js "service" can be called from "outside" or ? Dec 15 12:46:34 what I mean is, if I create an app and package a service with it, can that service be used by other developer's applications? Dec 15 12:47:02 provided they are calling public methods of the service that is Dec 15 12:47:23 I belive so? Dec 15 12:47:31 I am not sure but i think it is Dec 15 12:47:44 like you can call a service from "outside" within the app Dec 15 12:47:56 Hmm.. might have to just set up some test projects and see Dec 15 12:48:44 * hotdp has overload of Notepad++ Dec 15 12:48:50 *fritters Dec 15 13:37:30 * hotdp thinks the comments on http://www.webosroundup.com/2010/12/we-think-zhephree-makes-a-good-point/ shows that not all people understood the point and still complains Dec 15 14:22:16 welcome back solix Dec 15 14:22:32 re hotdp... :) Dec 15 14:22:40 mornin here. Dec 15 14:22:56 uhh so you just awake? Dec 15 14:23:06 yea Dec 15 14:23:16 i am still at work ;) Dec 15 14:23:29 haha.. Dec 15 14:23:49 I goto work in about an hour Dec 15 14:24:06 :) Dec 15 14:24:34 ugh I hate mornings... glad thee coffee... Dec 15 14:24:49 thee coffee` Dec 15 14:24:50 ? Dec 15 14:24:56 there's. Dec 15 14:25:37 I miss any tweets? heh Dec 15 14:25:49 haha Dec 15 14:26:39 I watch the nyc dev days videos last night on you tube Dec 15 14:27:01 :) Dec 15 14:27:04 * hotdp was there Dec 15 14:27:36 shea... I couldn't.. >:/ hehe Dec 15 14:27:59 * hotdp had a good time Dec 15 14:28:44 oh I bet! :) sounded Veeery informative. and fun Dec 15 14:29:51 i really liked how HPalm steped up and asked rod 'what webos-internals' needed *from them*... :))) Dec 15 14:29:57 how cool is that.. :) Dec 15 14:30:28 understandable, of course,just a nice refresh in attitude.. imo. Dec 15 14:30:40 not of HP, or Palm, just in general i mean.. Dec 15 14:30:51 yes Dec 15 14:35:34 interesting, one guy was (persistently) asking rod ..if internals had a possibility of becoming more with HPalm, rather payroll, ... heh, all i could think was "why fix it if it isnt broke', just Donate. :) Dec 15 14:36:02 works well for both halves. hehe Dec 15 14:36:20 complicate it with legalities and we will see problems.. hehe Dec 15 14:36:41 erm, not 'problems', but 'slowdowns'. Dec 15 14:37:13 neways,... :) coffee must be working now.. hehehe Dec 15 14:48:37 * sugardave has to stupid go to stupid work today. Dec 15 14:49:04 * hotdp thought sugardave fixed the remote thing Dec 15 14:49:16 VNC in to work.. :) Dec 15 14:50:16 visolix: does VNC do physical media switching? :P Dec 15 14:50:39 hotdp: yeah, fixed that, but now I have to write labs involving smart card readers....hard to do that remotely :) Dec 15 14:50:45 internals is working on it... 'so i hear'... ;) hehe Dec 15 14:51:28 hrm.. yeah, that could be a problem.. :) Dec 15 14:52:23 all I need to do is win the lottery and this won't be an issue anymore Dec 15 14:53:23 hehe, yep.. might wanna keep the job for now though.. ;) Dec 15 15:13:03 hello everybody Dec 15 15:13:22 I wanted to ask if there's a hacked castle-firmware available on the net for my palm pre? Dec 15 15:14:13 eh? Dec 15 15:14:57 have a look at http://bit.ly/cookWebOSDoctor Dec 15 15:15:03 (RazzMeNot - that's me) Dec 15 15:17:55 no idea? =) Dec 15 15:18:02 Try ask in internals Dec 15 15:18:12 asked already, but nobody answered Dec 15 15:18:19 =) Dec 15 15:21:26 btw Dec 15 15:21:48 don't know if you should talk about "early access" stuff on PC Dec 15 15:22:10 you must remember NDA Dec 15 15:22:16 I never signed it Dec 15 15:22:22 ...just hacked it =) Dec 15 15:22:39 so where did you get the image from ? Dec 15 15:22:44 emulator Dec 15 15:22:48 is included in the SDK Dec 15 15:22:48 Yes Dec 15 15:23:00 And the SDK is part of NDA Dec 15 15:23:18 so why is the webOSDoctor not part of the NDA? Dec 15 15:23:38 doesn't make sense to offer an emulator image without a webOSDoctor of the same version Dec 15 15:23:41 You need Early Access Program to have 2.0 Dec 15 15:23:48 and to get that you sign the NDA Dec 15 15:24:08 i just say i think its not smart to talk about "whats the newest from early access" Dec 15 15:24:34 Basically, everything you posted there is in violation of the NDA Dec 15 15:24:34 well, I don't talk about whats the newest Dec 15 15:24:46 I just offered a way how to cook your own webOSDoctor Dec 15 15:24:46 halfhalo thanks Dec 15 15:24:52 never released a file nor a screenshot Dec 15 15:26:05 Mentioning your in EA is a violation, as is the ftp server info whether that be true or not Dec 15 15:26:21 I'm loving my mum Dec 15 15:26:24 just my point Dec 15 15:26:29 is this also a violation to a NDA? Dec 15 15:26:35 doesn't have to be true Dec 15 15:27:09 depends, is your mum an unreleased version of webos? Dec 15 15:27:15 =D Dec 15 15:27:15 lol Dec 15 15:27:28 * halfhalo votes less than 6 hours before unsk1ll3d gets kicked out of EA Dec 15 15:27:41 * hotdp votes yes Dec 15 15:27:46 lol Dec 15 15:27:54 seems as there are no real developers in here =D Dec 15 15:28:00 lol Dec 15 15:28:02 HAHAHAHAHAHA Dec 15 15:28:03 developing also has something to do with developing, not using Dec 15 15:28:10 Lets go with that Dec 15 15:28:11 HAHAHAHA Dec 15 15:28:30 So people who follows the rules are none developers? thats new Dec 15 15:28:34 and NOT the fact that we may be under the same nda that you are, except we are following it Dec 15 15:28:42 * halfhalo will brb Dec 15 15:29:01 well, but the nda never mentioned anything of manipulating a jar package Dec 15 15:29:10 it's up to you if you install it Dec 15 15:29:49 you don't have to follow a post wherein is described how to rip a dvd Dec 15 15:31:56 so what's the topic of this NDA conversation? Dec 15 15:32:03 i feel like i missed just the beginning Dec 15 15:32:13 http://bit.ly/cookWebOSDoctor Dec 15 15:32:15 that thread Dec 15 15:32:55 yeah, that should probably be in the private forums on palm Dec 15 15:33:01 and it's 2.0.1, not 2.1 Dec 15 15:36:07 "You won't get anywhere with this, your Pre is an ARM architecture, and the rootfs of the emulator is for i686, so, the modules needed won't run under your Pre. " Dec 15 15:37:43 lol Dec 15 15:40:07 * hotdp will btb Dec 15 15:53:08 Did i miss any Trolls or NDA haters? Dec 15 15:53:15 just me Dec 15 15:53:20 so... no Dec 15 15:53:24 hi Dec 15 15:53:39 halfhalo he leaved again :) Dec 15 15:56:15 he deleted his posts Dec 15 15:56:22 I have copies Dec 15 15:56:36 you're just as bad as Julian Assange, then Dec 15 15:56:41 traitor Dec 15 15:56:50 DAMN STRAIGHT SKIPPT Dec 15 15:56:53 SKIPPY* Dec 15 15:56:55 heh Dec 15 15:57:21 Ugg, might have to use the pre plus for a while again... this should be interesting Dec 15 15:58:39 halfhalo i think we shall talk to chuq Dec 15 15:58:46 * halfhalo is Dec 15 15:58:53 he semmed like a person who do not are on rules Dec 15 15:59:01 about* Dec 15 15:59:12 damn that dit not make sense Dec 15 15:59:24 its one thing if its an honest mistake, its another if the guy is a jackass who does not care about the ruls Dec 15 15:59:39 i fell number 2 Dec 15 16:00:02 same Dec 15 16:17:42 but you guys aren't real developers, so... Dec 15 16:24:56 no we are not... he said Dec 15 16:35:55 * DougReeder waves hello Dec 15 17:13:22 morning, all Dec 15 17:13:29 chuqui! Dec 15 17:14:11 we had an idiot break the NDA this morning and generally act as an arsewipe Dec 15 17:17:36 oh? Dec 15 17:17:41 yup Dec 15 17:17:50 point me at it? Dec 15 17:17:56 (I'm just starting my morning wanders) Dec 15 17:18:03 its in the irc logs, and I have a copy of the PC thread that he posted and then deleted Dec 15 17:18:19 send me a copy in email? Dec 15 17:18:34 pdc@palm? Dec 15 17:19:04 yup. Dec 15 17:19:05 thanks! Dec 15 17:21:29 away it goes Dec 15 17:28:08 Anyone have a better German translation of "Show New User Hints" than "Anfangbenutzerwinken anzeigen"? :-) Dec 15 17:29:53 Hmm, according to Google, "Anfanbenutzerwinken" is too long even for Germans. Dec 15 17:30:38 chuqui: if you ned a vitnes let me know Dec 15 17:30:56 thx Dec 15 17:32:06 * halfhalo will bbl, final time Dec 15 17:35:34 halfhalo gl Dec 15 17:41:30 Show New User Hints? Dec 15 17:41:42 Zeige Tipps f�r Neubenutzer? Dec 15 17:42:08 hm Dec 15 17:42:39 :) Dec 15 17:42:46 Erstnutzerhinweise Dec 15 17:42:55 if he like to have it in just one word Dec 15 17:43:13 maybe it looks more German than everything else :) Dec 15 17:43:41 ok, Dinner time Dec 15 17:43:54 DougReeder ? you missed my translation... Dec 15 17:45:13 MetaView, I never received anything. Dec 15 17:47:16 It looks to me like it should be "Anfängerbenutzerräte anzeigen", but nobody uses the word Anfängerbenutzerräte. Dec 15 17:56:04 Or is Rat a collective noun? Would it be Anfångerbenutzerrat? Apparantly nobody uses that word either. Dec 15 18:10:03 DougReeder Dec 15 18:10:18 Erstnutzerhinweise if he like to have it in just one word maybe it looks more German than everything else :) ok, Dinner time Dec 15 18:10:20 Hmm? Dec 15 18:10:36 Show New User Hints? Zeige Tipps für Neubenutzer? Dec 15 18:11:54 ok ? :) Dec 15 18:13:26 Thanks, I received only two utterances from MetaView. Dec 15 18:23:07 * DougReeder waves goodbye "Thanks for the help. I don't trust this connection, and I want lunch!" Dec 15 18:40:11 ello Dec 15 19:21:36 uggg... stuck at sprint stoe Dec 15 19:21:38 store Dec 15 19:22:44 what happeend? Dec 15 19:22:49 happened Dec 15 19:23:03 my epic killed itself Dec 15 19:23:19 oh, pre user! Dec 15 19:23:19 -_- Dec 15 19:23:38 :p Dec 15 19:23:50 i m a droid user Dec 15 19:23:54 i user my girlfriend's pre Dec 15 19:24:25 android makes me mad Dec 15 19:24:45 there are pixis here... Dec 15 19:25:00 and some guy named marco broke a palm pre Dec 15 19:27:28 well, I am an android developer, and I like webos more than android by far Dec 15 19:27:36 except the webos SDK needs to be stronger -_- Dec 15 19:43:25 chuqui: Kiss Dec 15 20:02:38 MetaView: kiss! Dec 15 20:14:45 dammit, good shit always happens when I don't have time to play Dec 15 20:15:10 I'll do for you Dec 15 20:16:41 yes, guinea pigs are useful :D Dec 15 20:26:22 Is it possible to create an app to listen on a port and exchange data with a remote server on another given port with Mojo? Dec 15 20:27:37 no Dec 15 20:29:39 How can apps like The Missing Sync be able to sync data with a computer over a WiFi connection? Dec 15 20:31:52 the server is on the desktop and the Palm connects, I guess Dec 15 20:34:54 you can do it with node Dec 15 20:35:28 which you don't have right now Dec 15 20:38:22 halfhalo: yeah, I read that, but I'm definitely wondering how it is done without node Dec 15 20:38:53 maybe they got the possibility to write somethign more native Dec 15 20:39:03 with PDK it's not a deal Dec 15 20:39:11 (excpet from the firewall) Dec 15 20:40:01 that's what I'm thinking while I'm reading an article on how to create an hybrid app with sockets Dec 15 20:48:11 MetaView: firm and friendly handshake Dec 15 20:51:05 i can haz a handshake ;) Dec 15 20:52:04 any good charting libs out there? Dec 15 20:52:33 our next app is a huge one, would hate to do our own charting as well... Dec 15 22:06:37 chuqui: who do we bug when we find dumb stuff in the App Catalog like this? http://developer.palm.com/appredirect/?packageid=com.cannytechnologies.celebrityinstanttweets&applicationid=6062 Dec 15 22:11:48 SineOt, nice.. droid sshots? Dec 15 22:12:15 Yeah. P: Dec 15 22:25:08 SineOt: probably Chuq like usual (pdc@palm.com) Dec 15 23:27:18 hello Dec 15 23:31:24 hi dohtem Dec 15 23:31:30 hey Dec 15 23:31:35 hello nyceane Dec 15 23:31:47 and visolix :) Dec 15 23:31:59 :P Dec 15 23:32:44 hi dohtem! Dec 15 23:36:21 * dohtem has been away for a while Dec 15 23:36:48 http://www.youtube.com/adwords10?x=0cae245252794e5aaed118adb5a13511 Dec 15 23:36:50 LOL Dec 15 23:43:39 hot dog hot dog hot diggity dog Dec 15 23:47:08 * dohtem just saw that too :) Dec 15 23:47:11 downloading Dec 15 23:47:52 sucks I just bought a pre2 to test Dec 15 23:48:05 * halfhalo will take it off your hands Dec 15 23:48:17 I just would have rather saved my money for a sprint device Dec 15 23:48:24 I'll definitely use it Dec 15 23:48:40 on sprint if palm gets the 2.0 profiles working Dec 15 23:48:48 well WHEN Dec 15 23:53:04 kesne, ping Dec 15 23:54:21 OH THE PINGS!!! OH THE HUMANITY!!!! Dec 15 23:59:29 dohtem: hah! I didn't even see the thread title Dec 15 23:59:39 79% done! Dec 16 00:00:42 * Tibfib has slow internet Dec 16 00:00:46 42% Dec 16 00:00:49 lol Dec 16 00:01:00 the server is being hammered Dec 16 00:06:28 5 tech gifts you should return http://video.foxnews.com/v/4450646/5-tech-gifts-to-return-right-now/?playlist_id=162838 Dec 16 00:08:17 ah, it's our resident ray of sunshine Dec 16 00:08:23 :p Dec 16 00:09:23 me? Dec 16 00:15:58 96% Dec 16 00:18:26 * halfhalo watches as it goes backwards Dec 16 00:20:01 * Tibfib is on the next part Dec 16 00:20:05 1% Dec 16 00:20:41