**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Dec 26 02:59:56 2010
Dec 26 03:17:30 <JenP> merry christmas everyone
Dec 26 03:29:23 <rwhitby> merry christmas JenP
Dec 26 03:29:33 <JenP> Merry Christmas Rod
Dec 26 03:33:22 <JenP> woops time to get back to family...just wanted to pop in and say hi to everyone.
Dec 26 03:33:27 <JenP> ciao!
Dec 26 03:43:16 <haeffb> Is precentral apps portal broken?
Dec 26 07:33:37 <ajay> oh my didn't realize i left this logged in.. ;^)
Dec 26 07:34:18 <ajay> haeffb: I saw some twitter post about them taking it down, but pretty sure i saw that days ago
Dec 26 07:43:20 <ajay> dawm: checkin out that 'steal a computer' post now.. ;^)
Dec 26 07:57:26 <ajay> damn my pre's gui was locked up (tho still playin audio). I went to hit a restart Luna cmd, and its just been flippin btwn boot imgs.. arg..
Dec 26 10:02:38 <ajay> alright gonna actually remember to signoff today.. ;^)
Dec 26 10:28:31 <rwhitby> haeffb: yes, PreCentral homebrew feeds are broken
Dec 26 14:12:59 <leiru> really seems that whole review-team is in holidays
Dec 26 14:13:07 <leiru> :(
Dec 26 19:24:25 <b0bben_> hmm
Dec 26 19:24:41 <b0bben_> how do I publish our app to preware catalog?
Dec 26 19:24:55 <b0bben_> can't, easily, find any info on precentral
Dec 26 19:26:27 <Deihmos> i wonder what Palm has for CES
Dec 26 19:26:41 <bpadalino> nothing
Dec 26 19:26:52 <bpadalino> mobile world congress will be the next big thing for palm (imho)
Dec 26 19:27:20 <Deihmos> palm has been moving too slow with everything
Dec 26 19:27:26 <bpadalino> note the events: http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2106
Dec 26 19:27:37 <Deihmos> did any US providers pick up the Pre 2
Dec 26 19:29:41 <bpadalino> no idea - i bought mine unlocked
Dec 26 19:39:40 <torchie> verizon apparently wants to
Dec 26 19:39:44 <torchie> well
Dec 26 19:39:46 <torchie> probably not "wants"
Dec 26 19:40:02 <torchie> palm should do the keynote model
Dec 26 19:40:45 <torchie> that way they can choose whether to own everybody in the face before or after CES
Dec 26 19:40:45 <torchie> trade shows are crowded
Dec 26 19:40:45 <halfhalo> yup
Dec 26 19:40:45 <halfhalo> but un
Dec 26 20:06:46 <leiru> b0bben_: a) submit a homebrew app @ precentral (needs a special account request) b) submit official, beta or web-distro at palm and include it in the public feeds c) you can submit to preware directly maybe at http://www.webos-internals.org/
Dec 26 20:07:52 <b0bben_> leiru: thx
Dec 26 20:07:58 <b0bben_> have the app in official catalog
Dec 26 20:08:04 <b0bben_> didn't see it in preware
Dec 26 20:08:09 <b0bben_> maybe just missed it
Dec 26 20:09:34 <leiru> to c): http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Portal:webOS_Applications (right box)
Dec 26 20:10:16 <leiru> b0bben_: @ second page, when submitting you must select [x] include in official feeds, i think this can changed afterwards in metadata
Dec 26 20:10:40 <leiru> b0bben_: is it a beta?
Dec 26 20:10:59 <b0bben_>  leiru : it's not beta
Dec 26 20:11:03 <b0bben_> will check it eagain
Dec 26 20:11:05 <b0bben_> again*
Dec 26 20:11:07 <b0bben_> thx
Dec 26 20:11:12 <leiru> is it paid?
Dec 26 20:11:16 <b0bben_> free
Dec 26 20:11:31 <leiru> you can select in preware, which feeds you want toinclude
Dec 26 20:13:59 <b0bben_> ok
Dec 26 20:45:59 <leiru> b0bben_: got it working?
Dec 26 20:56:22 <leiru> i just selected a app, pressed update, then "metadata only", then in basics:
Dec 26 20:56:24 <leiru> http://www.abload.de/img/b0bbennhqb.png
Dec 26 20:57:09 <leiru> time for some beer.
Dec 26 21:49:42 <Spanska> Is it possible to do something after a scene is popped off the stack? As an exemple, I set something in a Preferences scene and I would like to do something after it is popped off the scene.
Dec 26 21:59:12 <dohtem> Spanska: scene assistant's use the deactivate function?
Dec 26 21:59:29 <dohtem> * use the scene assistant's deactivate function?
Dec 26 23:35:18 <torchie-nook> So apparently there's a thing called group sms
Dec 26 23:35:54 <torchie-nook> And iphones have it :/
Dec 27 00:02:26 <Spanska> dohtem: I think I would need to use the activate function instead
Dec 27 01:24:51 <olaf> hi guys, I'm playing with Ares and trying to display a list inside a group
Dec 27 01:25:13 <olaf> I created a model with items containing labels
Dec 27 01:25:36 <fahhem> what's the problem?
Dec 27 01:25:37 <olaf> but when running the sample the list contains the default items zero, one, two, three
Dec 27 01:25:41 <olaf> not my model contents
Dec 27 01:25:51 <fahhem> oh, do you call modelChanged() ?
Dec 27 01:26:14 <olaf> yes I do
Dec 27 01:26:32 <fahhem> with the original model?
Dec 27 01:26:45 <olaf> or shouldn't I use setup() for creating the model and call modelchanged
Dec 27 01:27:15 <fahhem> so you should do setup() once with the model that you will later change and call modelChanged() on
Dec 27 01:27:44 <olaf> I'll pastebin the sample
Dec 27 01:29:40 <olaf> hmm, is pastebin.com down?
Dec 27 01:33:38 <olaf> http://pastebin.ca/2030222
Dec 27 01:35:51 <fahhem> yeah, you're calling modelChanged on a new model
Dec 27 01:36:32 <fahhem> you have to do (something like) "this.controller.get("#list_id").model"
Dec 27 01:36:57 <fahhem> and change that, though i'd look up how to actually get the model, i'm a little rusty on the syntax there
Dec 27 01:37:47 <olaf> or should I move the model above Ares.setupScenAssistant?
Dec 27 01:38:03 <olaf> or more to the top in function MainAssistant() { }
Dec 27 01:38:17 <fahhem> you have to use the model that was used when setting up the list
Dec 27 01:38:29 <fahhem> you can't just make a model, you have to use the original one
Dec 27 01:39:50 <olaf> in main-chrome.js I used as modelName "gpsInfoModel", but where to create that model in code?
Dec 27 01:40:14 <olaf> oh, moving the model creation in the top function MainAssistant worked
Dec 27 01:40:25 <fahhem> oh okay
Dec 27 01:41:12 <olaf> ok, thanks for pointing me in that direction
Dec 27 01:41:30 <fahhem> np
Dec 27 01:41:43 <fahhem> now i know how to use models in Ares
Dec 27 01:41:44 <olaf> now on to putting something useful in the model :)
Dec 27 01:41:48 <fahhem> you can you pastebin the result?
Dec 27 01:41:53 <olaf> sure
Dec 27 01:43:26 <olaf> hit reload on the same url
Dec 27 01:43:53 <fahhem> you can update a pastbin, interesting
Dec 27 02:26:17 <ajay> howdy folks!
Dec 27 02:26:58 <haeffb> ajay
Dec 27 02:27:09 <haeffb> did you ever find a note app?
Dec 27 02:27:14 <ajay> curious if anyone has used Opera, Audible, or other apps on Classic ?
Dec 27 02:27:27 <ajay> haeffb: good memory! I kinda gave up, but installed EverNote.
Dec 27 02:27:51 <haeffb> I was trying to let you know about my Noted app that syncs with Simplenote
Dec 27 02:27:54 <ajay> It's pretty impressive-looking. the funny thing though is i'm familiar with it bc of the PreCentral folks complaining how it "finally" got updated :)
Dec 27 02:29:00 <haeffb> http://www.simplenoteapp.com
Dec 27 02:29:12 <ajay> oh sorry! don't know how i missed your letting me know
Dec 27 02:29:23 <ajay> haha i'm already there.. :) don't see a linux app..
Dec 27 02:29:48 <ajay> extensions for FF/Chrome tho.. oh! A perl script!! hot damn that makes my life compelte!
Dec 27 02:29:50 <ajay> complete even :)
Dec 27 02:33:36 <ajay> haeffb: oo that's tough.. evernote has some cool features and is free, but yours+simplenote would 'just work,' and also work well with how i keep notes now :)
Dec 27 02:33:46 <ajay> (with earlier mentioned perl script)
Dec 27 02:34:19 <haeffb> you can get the Noted beta free thru preware
Dec 27 02:34:29 <ajay> hot
Dec 27 02:36:32 <ajay> how long do you plan to keep the beta in preware? How have sales gone for you out of curiosity?
Dec 27 02:37:50 <SineOt> I bit the bullet :x
Dec 27 02:37:57 * SineOt now has a Boxee Box
Dec 27 02:38:31 <ajay> wait I thought you were the boxee guy? was that someone else?
Dec 27 02:39:12 <haeffb> sales of noted are pretty slow. I always keep betas in precentral's feeds.
Dec 27 02:39:41 <SineOt> hm? I wrote a Boxee Remote yeah
Dec 27 02:40:07 <ajay> no offense but $2.23 does sound a little high.. awesome that you keep betas in PC tho!
Dec 27 02:40:29 <ajay> SineOt: heh, i assumed that meant you already had a box.. :)
Dec 27 02:40:49 <SineOt> Nah, been using my Mac Mini
Dec 27 02:41:03 <SineOt> this is much more... Less hassle to hook up to the TV
Dec 27 02:42:52 <ajay> anyone here with a Pre2? Is it really a different form factor? was hoping to use those cheap best buy cases if/when it drops on Vz
Dec 27 02:43:26 <fahhem> the front is flat so cases that cover the front are going to be different
Dec 27 02:43:32 <fahhem> but i don't actually own one
Dec 27 02:44:04 <oil_pre> never tried to put my case on a pre2
Dec 27 02:44:28 <oil_pre> but the one I had had problems with the ts back
Dec 27 02:44:36 <oil_pre> didn't fit
Dec 27 02:44:37 <ajay> yeah i've gotten the impression its differently shaped..
Dec 27 02:44:45 <oil_pre> all pre2s have ts back
Dec 27 02:45:00 <oil_pre> it's basically the exact same except for the front
Dec 27 02:46:52 <ajay> oh burn, using the google chrome simplenote extension 'sign-up' == 404
Dec 27 02:46:54 <ajay> k
Dec 27 02:46:54 <SineOt> Man you know I was like, "I have some totally huge Mojo question" and now that I'm here it's like... What in the hell was it
Dec 27 02:47:10 <ajay> i don't want to hear about your huge mojo
Dec 27 02:47:16 <SineOt> :C
Dec 27 02:47:33 <ajay> aww, i'm j/k.. :)
Dec 27 02:47:52 <fahhem> this.controller.get("#SineOt").mojo = undefined
Dec 27 02:48:06 <ajay> (funny dont think i've seen that smiley before. heh.)
Dec 27 02:48:09 <ajay> burn!
Dec 27 02:48:27 <ajay> i mean, hey that's not very nice. :)
Dec 27 02:48:31 <dohtem> ok this rocks - http://www.speedtest.net/android/24545680.png
Dec 27 02:51:22 <ajay> hmm.. that makes me curious..
Dec 27 02:53:38 <ajay> wonder why it doesn't say what carrier.. i got 1.70 down, 0.40 up on Vz, so impressive on you!
Dec 27 02:56:15 <SineOt> holy smokes
Dec 27 02:56:26 <SineOt> NodeJS Apricot
Dec 27 02:56:28 <SineOt> is amazing
Dec 27 02:57:04 <haeffb> ajay: $2.23 is less than a cup of coffee at starbucks
Dec 27 02:58:03 <ajay> haeffb: I said 'no offense' tho didn't I? ;^) I never buy coffee at starbucks (tho i occassionally use their restrooms :)
Dec 27 02:58:37 <haeffb> not offended, just don't understand how one can rationalize that "$2.23 is awfully expensive" for damn near anything.
Dec 27 02:58:45 <SineOt> App markets pretty much anywhere are stuck in this 'race to 99 cents' that screws with the perceived values
Dec 27 02:59:07 <ajay> SineOt: that's a better way of saying what i was going to say.. :)
Dec 27 02:59:16 <ajay> (and maybe than what i did say too!)
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