**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Dec 29 02:59:57 2010 Dec 29 03:03:36 lol Dec 29 03:05:59 hah Dec 29 03:06:16 * halfhalo is sad devise does not handle user account changes... Dec 29 03:06:51 what do you mean halfhalo Dec 29 03:06:53 ? Dec 29 03:07:07 do you know what the devise rubygem is? Dec 29 03:07:48 no, i thought you mispelled device Dec 29 03:07:53 nope Dec 29 03:09:13 devise is a gem that handles almost all my user authentication for me. It handles user registration, password management, confirmation emails, all that stuff handled for me. And its extremely simple to setup Dec 29 03:09:31 Devise+CanCan+Permit is a deadly combination Dec 29 03:09:48 sorry, i'm a django guy myself Dec 29 03:09:54 bah Dec 29 03:10:38 grrr. iowa scores first. Dec 29 03:10:42 Devise handles user authentication, CanCan handles user authorization, and Permit handles CanCan's DB stuff Dec 29 03:12:48 My issue with devise right now is that it marks certain fields as protected and will not let me mass update them :( Dec 29 04:18:27 :\ Dec 29 05:19:52 I think torchie has a nook Dec 29 05:22:07 :) Dec 29 05:22:19 lies Dec 29 05:22:29 i think halfhalo is part angel and part devil Dec 29 05:22:45 -angel +insane Dec 29 05:23:26 that or he started playing the game halo and stopped halfway Dec 29 05:24:57 anybody able to setup a PDK/WIDK cross-compiling env in debian here? Dec 29 05:25:20 i'm like 95% through and suddenly hit a bunch of hurdles Dec 29 05:25:23 was that you that created a guide in the wiki? Dec 29 05:25:32 pdk on linux Dec 29 05:25:39 i wish, i only added my error onto the end Dec 29 05:25:43 oh Dec 29 05:26:33 fahhem: did you try this? http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/PDK_on_Linux Dec 29 05:26:36 http://tinypic.com/r/263kbra/7 :p Dec 29 05:27:06 i followed http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/WebOS_Internals_PDK, i'll look at your link Dec 29 05:27:44 halfhalo: what pkg is that? Dec 29 05:27:45 fahhem: making palm's PDK work is a lot simpler than WIDK Dec 29 05:27:49 but less useful Dec 29 05:28:16 lulz.. it aint no package Dec 29 05:28:41 * halfhalo is still writing it Dec 29 05:29:12 destinal: oh, i wanted to make some changes to VBA though, do I need WIDK? Dec 29 05:29:45 fahhem: not sure Dec 29 05:29:59 maybe] Dec 29 05:30:23 gitosis? Dec 29 05:30:33 since dtzWill would have used WIDK to make it, it depends on what things look like though Dec 29 05:30:40 gitosis doesn't come with a web interface Dec 29 05:30:58 nope Dec 29 05:33:54 currently supports ssh key uploading, adding users to projects, creating a project, removing a user from a project, and a few other small things Dec 29 05:34:29 halfhalo: so it is gitosis doing the web interface? Dec 29 05:34:49 no, its a rails application thats managing the gitosis-admin repo Dec 29 05:39:56 http://half22halo.dyndns-remote.com:3000/ theoretically that should work Dec 29 05:40:12 yup Dec 29 05:41:59 hehe... Dec 29 05:42:05 * halfhalo didn't have to theme a thing Dec 29 05:42:47 * oil refuses to sign in before continuing Dec 29 05:43:06 * fahhem forgot halfhalo's password Dec 29 05:43:15 its hunter2 Dec 29 05:43:28 lol bashdb Dec 29 05:43:59 oops, bash.org/qdb Dec 29 05:44:04 lol Dec 29 05:44:10 * halfhalo hearts devise Dec 29 05:44:46 you combined devise with gitosis-web-admin? Dec 29 05:44:55 someone say my name Dec 29 05:45:02 torchie-nook: Dec 29 05:45:10 :P Dec 29 05:45:39 fahhem: what? devise is whats powering the rails apps user authentication Dec 29 05:47:12 yeah Dec 29 05:47:15 oh well, nvm Dec 29 05:49:45 * halfhalo uses devise because he is lazy Dec 29 05:59:03 Wooo! Got group addition to projects working! Dec 29 05:59:13 AND Remove! Dec 29 06:01:02 * oil has got nothing sarcastic to say Dec 29 06:01:28 that's... what she said? Dec 29 06:01:45 * halfhalo is never themeing a rails thing again Dec 29 06:01:52 auto themer FTW Dec 29 06:02:04 django FTW Dec 29 06:02:15 8GB DDR3 FTW Dec 29 06:02:25 FTW FTW Dec 29 06:02:33 * halfhalo is happy with 6GB Ramz Dec 29 06:02:42 the sad fact, this is all being archived Dec 29 06:02:56 someone out there will have their google search impeded by what we say here Dec 29 06:03:05 I can live with that Dec 29 06:03:24 Yeah really. Dec 29 06:03:31 * oil would have 8 gigs if one of his slots wasn't screwey and causing reboots whenever he puts a stick in it Dec 29 06:03:39 i have 8gb of ram in the mail, i'm going from 1gb to 8 :) Dec 29 06:03:59 quite the jump Dec 29 06:04:07 you'll never want to go down xD Dec 29 06:04:25 I went from 2 to 8. Dec 29 06:04:28 i have to reinstall to upgrade to 64bit, but I can live with 3GB until I do that Dec 29 06:04:35 oh Dec 29 06:04:36 It's pleasant, I haven't seen any beachballs! Dec 29 06:04:51 I think SineOt has a mac Dec 29 06:05:07 * halfhalo has 6GB in windows, and 5GB in mac Dec 29 06:05:14 Yes'm. Mac Mini. Puzzle box on the inside. Dec 29 06:05:38 * halfhalo hearts his mini Dec 29 06:05:49 RAM was way easier to replace than the harddrive was. P: Dec 29 06:05:57 meh Dec 29 06:06:01 why does the WIDK download two copies of its arm compilers? Dec 29 06:06:03 Although on the new Minis you just twist the bottom off and there you go. Dec 29 06:06:07 I swapped out the hd for a ssd Dec 29 06:06:10 2007q3 and 2009q1 Dec 29 06:06:31 What size SSD? Dec 29 06:06:38 * oil has no moneys for ssd Dec 29 06:06:55 * SineOt paid... 53$ for a 500GB 7200RPM Seagate. P: Dec 29 06:07:04 * halfhalo got the ssd in the mini for freez Dec 29 06:07:32 hook me up halfhalo P: Dec 29 06:07:36 * oil is less concerned about speed, and more concerned about space Dec 29 06:08:05 honestly, 80Gb is enough for a machine pretty much dedicated to coding Dec 29 06:08:19 it's enough for pretty much anything tbh Dec 29 06:08:28 * halfhalo begs to differ Dec 29 06:08:29 * oil machine is dedicated to EVERYTHING Dec 29 06:08:31 halfhalo: that's what i thought until i started downloading some Windowz SDKs Dec 29 06:08:37 if it's massive, I don't see an issue with putting it on an external Dec 29 06:08:44 that's basically what I do (and did) Dec 29 06:08:48 * halfhalo has a 60GB ssd in his lappytop Dec 29 06:09:02 heh... I have almost all the drives in my desktop filled Dec 29 06:09:32 my coding machine is a 512MB ram, 1GHz amd :) Dec 29 06:09:37 toss some eSATA in the mix and just move everything to externals! Dec 29 06:09:50 or Firewire 800 Dec 29 06:09:51 bah Dec 29 06:10:05 To many external drives ftl Dec 29 06:10:51 stackable enclosures ftw Dec 29 06:11:19 kind of wishing that Linksys had kept the stackable router/switch designs Dec 29 06:11:34 and also wishing that Verizon didn't saddle us with such a piece of crap Westell "modem router" Dec 29 06:11:50 Good evening everyone Dec 29 06:12:44 * halfhalo has a mini with a 2.26GHz C2D, 5GB ram, 80GB Intel SSD, a Laptop with a 2.26GHZ C2D, 4GB ram, 60GB OCZ SSD and 500GB scorpio blue and 9 cell battery, a netbook with a 1.4GHz c2s, 3GB ram, and 250GB hd, another laptop with a 2.4GHz e6600 OC'ale to 3.015GHz, 3GB ddr2 667 ram, 160GB hd, and mxm type II vid card, and a desktop with a 2.4GHz q6600 OCable to 3.6GHz, 6GB ram, and upwards of 4.5TB hd Dec 29 06:13:06 who cares?!? Dec 29 06:13:08 ;) Dec 29 06:13:50 SineOt: the WRT54GL is still stackable Dec 29 06:14:00 wireless g ftl Dec 29 06:14:10 Yeah, but that's because it's just the WRT54G Dec 29 06:14:23 With an L tacked onto its model number Dec 29 06:14:34 for "loser model" Dec 29 06:14:40 Franken Pre Project continues, and I think I found how to make it work Dec 29 06:14:59 Yeah the truly awesome folks have a WRT54G v2 with the WRT54GS motherboard in it :Q Dec 29 06:15:00 doctoring it now Dec 29 06:15:11 ... Too bad I can't get the Westell 7500 to actually function in Bridge mode Dec 29 06:15:42 if you can still find it, the WRT54G-TM is dd-wrt mega capable for cheap Dec 29 06:16:50 I just got a v2, but it's kind of moot Dec 29 06:16:56 * halfhalo starts to make adding users to groups and listing users in a group and groups in a user to work Dec 29 06:17:11 I can get it to pull an IP from Verizon but it won't actually establish a route to the internet Dec 29 06:19:11 * halfhalo then only has to get the gitosis bridge fully working which is easy with the ruby git+ssh gems Dec 29 06:19:38 good luck halfhalo Dec 29 06:19:47 are you gonna commit it back to the repo? Dec 29 06:19:56 back to what repo? Dec 29 06:20:09 did you start the gitosis web interface from scratch? Dec 29 06:20:13 yeah Dec 29 06:20:21 ohh... there's already one built Dec 29 06:20:29 in ruby too Dec 29 06:20:36 https://github.com/masone/gitosis-web-admin Dec 29 06:20:42 now we see if all of my work today pays off Dec 29 06:20:49 fingers crossed Dec 29 06:20:50 i thought you were just making it more capable Dec 29 06:21:08 no, its a different client with slightly different goals Dec 29 06:23:20 S Dec 29 06:23:21 C Dec 29 06:23:21 O Dec 29 06:23:22 R Dec 29 06:23:23 E Dec 29 06:23:29 your preggers? Dec 29 06:23:46 I hope not, but if I am, ill be on all cable networks Dec 29 06:24:23 I have finally identified and fixed the main issue with the Sprint Pre 2 Dec 29 06:27:04 is rwhitby close by? Dec 29 06:27:21 * CTLAdvance needs an rwhitby symbol to blast into the sky Dec 29 06:27:34 rwhitby-pre: ping ^ Dec 29 06:28:25 The sad part is that the solution to this is covered under the NDA.... Dec 29 06:29:47 CTLAdvance: Woohoo! I'm ready to do mine next. Dec 29 06:30:10 Testing SMS Dec 29 06:31:04 and its working Dec 29 06:31:06 score Dec 29 06:31:30 CTLAdvance: even admitting the existence of some sort of NDA may be violating that NDA Dec 29 06:31:32 :P Dec 29 06:32:04 so what about talking about talking about talking about an NDA that may or may not exist? hmmmm Dec 29 06:32:23 DUNDUN Dec 29 06:32:32 Please confirm or deny Dec 29 06:32:44 er Dec 29 06:32:45 ... Dec 29 06:32:57 I can not confirm or deny that I can confirm or deny Dec 29 06:33:36 GPS on this bad boy is wicked fast Dec 29 06:33:45 with Google turned off Dec 29 06:33:52 I like it Dec 29 06:41:26 I can confirm that I can also deny all confirmations of denials Dec 29 06:42:17 wow this has been an all day event.... Dec 29 06:42:33 I shut down UAC so I no longer need to confirm nor deny Dec 29 06:48:21 now to get my VPN to work from my phone and I shall rule the w... office Dec 29 07:01:33 CTLAdvance: :) Dec 29 07:05:16 This really has recaptured my attention to webOS. Now that I have a device I can show off, maybe ill shift some time back to it Dec 29 07:15:10 CTLAdvance: pre2 is really pretty nice isn't it? Dec 29 07:16:22 no Dec 29 07:17:28 pre 2 is a waste of time imo. Dec 29 07:18:52 For being such minor specs Dec 29 07:19:00 minor spec bump from the pre 1 Dec 29 07:19:06 It is really awesome Dec 29 07:19:25 I wished the launched it back in 2009 when I am sure they had it ready Dec 29 07:19:27 or jan 2010 Dec 29 07:20:06 This device with webOS 2.0 I can see actually increasing their market share Dec 29 07:20:14 or webOS 2.0 on any device Dec 29 07:20:18 very slick Dec 29 07:20:31 They just need to add bing and yahoo as just type options Dec 29 07:20:57 or just bing, yahoo uses bing now, but to be fair Yahoo as well Dec 29 07:21:06 CTLAdvance: go to bing.com, i think webos recognizes it as a search engine and give you the option to add it Dec 29 07:21:16 where would this option be Dec 29 07:22:03 i remember something about websites that use some web standard for search engines is recognized Dec 29 07:23:08 http://www.precentral.net/hp-introduces-feature-packed-webos-2-0 Dec 29 07:23:22 but i see some tweets saying it's not in 2.0 just yet Dec 29 07:27:05 yeah I dont see anything right now Dec 29 07:27:21 I wonder how much of this stuff is stored in config files Dec 29 07:27:33 if I can go in and edit it easily Dec 29 07:37:10 hello rwhitby Dec 29 07:38:07 so CTLAdvance you got 2.0 running on a pre+ or a pre-? Dec 29 07:38:20 2.0 running on a pre 2 on sprint Dec 29 07:38:35 or rather Dec 29 07:38:40 a pre 2 running on sprint Dec 29 07:38:50 cool Dec 29 07:39:04 As sprint only had the pre 1 Dec 29 07:39:10 so it activates in the US and all that? Dec 29 07:39:13 not even the pre 1.5 Dec 29 07:39:39 Yes, That is where I am located Dec 29 07:39:49 2:36AM here in NY Dec 29 07:40:40 i know, i was asking if the activation went fine despite putting 2.0 on a network that it's not 'supposed' to be on Dec 29 07:40:57 Yes the activation went fine Dec 29 07:41:19 from what I can tell, we have made the device tell sprint it is still a pre 1 Dec 29 07:41:30 or at least using the network board from the pre 1 Dec 29 07:41:49 oh, so it's the same IMEI number and such Dec 29 07:42:04 sprint has no clue what you've tricked it into doing :) Dec 29 07:42:14 yes Dec 29 07:50:58 alright rwhitby... I need to sleep at this point. I will talk to you tomorrow. Dec 29 12:10:50 What graphics library to use for pdk? Dec 29 12:12:34 welcome Aseem Dec 29 12:13:10 Thanks hotdp Dec 29 12:13:27 can you please help me regarding my query? Dec 29 12:14:04 No don't use pdk Dec 29 12:14:45 I need that only because i have to develop in cc++ Dec 29 12:51:34 ugh Dec 29 12:55:27 ugha Dec 29 13:52:25 pdk help Dec 29 13:52:58 anyone? Dec 29 13:53:19 :i Dec 29 13:53:45 how to get the things done on emulator? Dec 29 13:54:08 i am pretty new to this actually Dec 29 14:36:11 morning all Dec 29 14:44:54 mornings Dec 29 15:38:25 mornig Dec 29 15:39:42 that Dec 29 15:46:15 CTLAdvance: so does everything work yet on the sprint pre2? Dec 29 15:46:28 I found the solution last night Dec 29 15:46:31 so yes it does Dec 29 15:46:34 ohhh, really? Dec 29 15:46:45 * HattCzech_work ponders about getting a pre2 Dec 29 15:46:46 as far as I can tell Dec 29 15:46:49 sms, calls, etc Dec 29 15:47:11 but i may just wait for whatever the next device is, which needs to be awesome Dec 29 15:47:13 You need to be in the EAP to get it to function right Dec 29 15:47:24 if you can hold out Dec 29 15:48:32 but i'm going to see what's going on at CES and figure out what i'm going to do for my phone Dec 29 15:48:47 Is that next week? Dec 29 15:48:50 or the week after Dec 29 15:48:57 hp/palm needs to bring something quick, or they'll be left in the dust Dec 29 15:49:04 next week Dec 29 15:49:11 a week from tomorrow, actually Dec 29 15:49:18 I think they already have been... :/ Dec 29 15:49:30 i hope that's not the case Dec 29 15:49:36 but i knoe what you mean :/ Dec 29 15:49:40 know* Dec 29 15:50:06 yeah Dec 29 15:50:13 They can catch up Dec 29 15:50:50 they need to release a tablet, a new 4g phone, and announce printers with it Dec 29 15:51:01 within the next month or so Dec 29 15:51:38 or at least a super phone, 4.3" screen, 1.2 - 1.5ghz processor, etc Dec 29 15:51:46 and not just announce a tablet and phone, but have them available (a couple of months would be fine, but before mid-year) Dec 29 15:51:46 the ability to print money Dec 29 15:52:03 yeah if they wait until june again... Dec 29 15:52:08 er in the coming months Dec 29 15:52:21 yeah Dec 29 15:52:50 i really really hope they can do that Dec 29 15:52:54 remember on 1/6 I believe all pre 1 will be 2 years old Dec 29 15:53:00 from initial showcase Dec 29 15:53:29 now if they were like here is this phone, and its available Jan 29th. Dec 29 15:58:12 mmm, Pre 2 Dec 29 16:08:25 for my first trick, I shall eat a sandwich Dec 29 16:08:43 for my second trick I will make a Pre 2 function properly on sprint Dec 29 16:08:46 :/ Dec 29 16:28:15 CTLAdvance: have you played with Impostah on that to see if there might be something that stands out? Dec 29 18:30:20 wow, so one of the developers here at work is teleworking right now, he "commited" to cvs, the only issue is, we're using svn and the cvs is dead, then he deleted his local copy, without backing up, then tried pulling down from the non existant cvs, and got a read error, so all his work was deleted, ugh Dec 29 18:30:50 Workenhaven: that sounds remarkably foolish Dec 29 18:30:55 yea Dec 29 18:31:12 considering it should have thrown a stackfull of errors when he tried commiting to a non-existant cvs Dec 29 18:31:36 and i'm the programming intern here, he's a full on developer with a masters in compsci Dec 29 18:31:42 and i know not to do that Dec 29 18:32:00 Workenhaven: like, pull into a new directory Dec 29 18:32:13 Workenhaven: it's like drugs, if you think you can suddenly fly, try from the ground first :) Dec 29 18:32:39 we have a cvs, with all the projects in it, but cvs is dead, and r/w locked Dec 29 18:32:44 we're using subversion instead Dec 29 18:33:01 well he tried to commit and pull down from the cvs, ignoring the errors, and wondering "why isn't this working" Dec 29 18:33:40 the thing is, eclipse makes commit errors pretty blatant Dec 29 18:33:48 full on ALERT! box with sound Dec 29 18:33:53 ah, right. errors tend to be something one should read and consider, I think. I know, strange attitude. :) Dec 29 18:34:18 iunno, and he can't figure out how to fix it Dec 29 18:34:32 aparently his .trash is empty Dec 29 18:34:59 he wants us to reverse engineer the .war he deployed, import it into eclipse, set it up as a project, then commit it to svn Dec 29 18:35:06 because he can't figure it out Dec 29 18:35:17 Workenhaven: you should craft a "clue stick" and ship it to him. Dec 29 18:35:21 lol Dec 29 18:35:56 the thing is, none of us are free to fix his issue :P Dec 29 18:36:17 i'm working on an independant application, and the 2 other devs are eyeballs deep in rewriting whole modules Dec 29 18:36:20 Workenhaven: wow, he's asking interns to decompile a binary, make sense out of the pseudo-source code generated and patch whatever seems to be different into the main tree? Dec 29 18:36:24 wow Dec 29 18:36:26 just wow Dec 29 18:36:41 no, i'm the intern :P Dec 29 18:36:47 the other guys are all full developers Dec 29 18:36:52 ah, still Dec 29 18:37:06 but what's funny, is i've been here 3 months, i've already written more code than all but 1 of the devs Dec 29 18:37:14 and some of them have been here 2ish years Dec 29 18:37:39 wish i got paid as much as them :P Dec 29 19:10:47 in time, Workenhaven, in time Dec 29 19:10:52 lol Dec 29 19:11:10 or you'll replace the guy who doesn't understand cvs and svn :) Dec 29 19:11:18 haha Dec 29 19:11:30 i've got a lot to learn Dec 29 19:12:50 but he doesn't even have the basics, so you're already a step ahead :) Dec 29 19:13:06 lol Dec 29 19:13:33 yea, my only thing is i'm having to learn spring, hibernate, maven, and sql Dec 29 19:13:39 but i already know the tools and how to code Dec 29 19:14:31 not sure what spring and maven are, but i had to learn nhibernate and added a lot to my sql knowledge when i got my current job Dec 29 19:14:47 spring is a java framework, and maven is a build tool Dec 29 19:14:56 maven is actually really awesome Dec 29 19:15:10 handles all your dependencies, builds, and deployments Dec 29 19:15:35 i literally only have to go "mvn clean build tomcat:deploy" Dec 29 19:16:02 and it downloads all the dependencies, does a clean build, and deploys the war into tomcat where i specify it Dec 29 19:17:26 sweet Dec 29 19:17:31 i need something like htat Dec 29 19:17:32 that* Dec 29 19:17:53 http://maven.apache.org/ Dec 29 19:20:34 you're doing linux development, eh? Dec 29 19:20:38 yea Dec 29 19:20:49 all our machines are linux, i was so excited Dec 29 19:20:54 cause i use linux at home Dec 29 19:20:56 i need something like that for visual studio Dec 29 19:21:00 eww Dec 29 19:21:04 windows Dec 29 19:21:09 yeah, unfortunate, but oh well Dec 29 19:21:21 lol, we've got a redhat, suse, and several ubuntu servers Dec 29 19:21:25 i'm still no linux guru, but i can get around Dec 29 19:21:25 all the dev machines are ubuntu Dec 29 19:21:35 cool Dec 29 19:21:46 and our applications are OSS(by law) and we do them in java Dec 29 19:22:02 heh, java Dec 29 19:22:07 i hate java Dec 29 19:22:13 heheeh, yeah Dec 29 19:22:13 but it's what i was told to use :P Dec 29 19:22:25 for all this stuff, i'd rather use django or something Dec 29 19:22:35 and for internal apps, C, but it all has to be java stuff Dec 29 19:22:55 i haven't programmed in it, but it's all the same... it's good for any platform, but c is my base language and i'd prefer tha Dec 29 19:22:57 that* Dec 29 19:23:05 mainly cause we develop and deploy to linux, but all the users use windows Dec 29 19:23:08 and we do webapps Dec 29 19:23:13 javascript :) Dec 29 19:23:23 haha Dec 29 19:23:25 funny Dec 29 19:23:42 yeah, i know you can't do server-side stuff in javascript, but oh well Dec 29 19:24:08 spring is an awesome web mvc framework Dec 29 19:24:33 so we use jsp for our view, and the model and control are all java using spring Dec 29 19:25:18 what's awesome with spring, is my login system, comparing against an ldap-ad server, is like 10 lines of code Dec 29 19:27:21 sweet Dec 29 19:35:47 Are there any import tools for sms? Dec 29 19:36:04 I have to export from Android to webOS Dec 29 19:36:24 I couldn't find a way to make Android store messages to sim :I Dec 29 19:41:56 Or would I have to do some manual db work.. Dec 29 19:45:45 pretty sure right now, the only work that's been done is on backing them up, but not adding them in Dec 29 19:46:02 :) Dec 29 19:46:04 Save/Restore Saves, but does not restore Dec 29 19:48:46 It's a shame. I now have all the messages in xml file from Android but no way to import them to webOS. Perhaps I'll do a program for that if there's no such thing yet Dec 29 19:49:34 sms? Dec 29 19:50:02 yep Dec 29 20:09:07 ~seen SineOt Dec 29 20:09:29 boo Dec 29 20:09:32 hey guys Dec 29 20:09:41 hope everyone had an awesome holiday Dec 29 20:15:46 It's not over yet Dec 29 20:16:05 lucky you, mine is split in two Dec 29 20:16:07 * teemu didn't have any actually Dec 29 20:16:18 4 day weekend coming up though Dec 29 20:18:31 then the boss comes back and we tell him that the transmission went in the new van Dec 29 20:18:39 prebackup restores Dec 29 20:18:59 orly? Dec 29 20:19:23 "pre backup utility" Dec 29 20:19:26 yeah Dec 29 20:19:30 at least the the same phone Dec 29 20:20:37 on the* Dec 29 20:21:06 Thanks for the tip. Backup to gmail oslt would be neat Dec 29 20:26:00 http://www.precentral.net/best-vacuum-cleaners - really? Dec 29 20:26:43 lol Dec 29 20:29:16 Greetings Dec 29 20:29:28 hi Big_biff Dec 29 20:29:36 'allo! Dec 29 20:29:50 hi Dec 29 20:29:57 That app is something worth buying.. Dec 29 20:30:12 afternoon Dec 29 20:30:12 How goes it JenP? Dec 29 20:30:45 Family has all gone back to their homes, and I am once again at peace. So it goes great Dec 29 20:30:52 How are you? Dec 29 20:30:53 Heh. Dec 29 20:31:04 Oh, same ol... Dec 29 20:31:21 Playin with an ipad Dec 29 20:31:47 yeah got one too...not impressed Dec 29 20:32:06 Wirc sooooo much better than any iPad client Dec 29 20:32:20 what about colloquy Dec 29 20:32:37 I'm cheap, torchie... Only freebies Dec 29 20:32:50 On a pricey tablet, heh Dec 29 20:33:02 yeah I got a nook color but I only bought one app from the android market Dec 29 20:33:05 it was 300 yen. Dec 29 20:33:16 and now I only have like 85 cents on my card lol Dec 29 20:33:33 Almost got a nook color. Is it nice? Dec 29 20:33:50 really nice Dec 29 20:33:54 but 7 inches is like Dec 29 20:33:56 the wrong size Dec 29 20:34:02 and android is kind of Dec 29 20:34:04 silly Dec 29 20:34:28 I like the nook original, much better for book reading imo Dec 29 20:34:47 Debating taking the iPad back for plain old kindle Dec 29 20:34:50 Barnes and Nobles went down on Christmas Day Dec 29 20:34:50 JenP, you don't like the iPad? Dec 29 20:34:56 I'd love an ipad Dec 29 20:35:15 that thing would be great for pdfs Dec 29 20:35:21 Big_biff, I got my mother a nook Color for xmas... it's a really great piece of tech imo Dec 29 20:35:29 torchie: we have linux kernel source and there's no locks on the bootloader and the omap3 boots usb and sd card. linux based systems should be possible. angstrom, meego, etc Dec 29 20:35:38 it could use a little more horsepower, but all in all for the price it's awesome Dec 29 20:35:39 so no need to be just limited to android Dec 29 20:35:41 I must admit I like the iPad, but feel weird spending that much $ Dec 29 20:35:45 mugen - isnt it just another android tablet Dec 29 20:35:59 sort of. Dec 29 20:36:00 Did they go all out on the ui Dec 29 20:36:02 CTLAdvance, yeah... but a $250 android tablet :) Dec 29 20:36:05 yeah Dec 29 20:36:06 they didn't Dec 29 20:36:08 with market? Dec 29 20:36:12 no market Dec 29 20:36:12 nope Dec 29 20:36:14 bah Dec 29 20:36:22 BNN overlaid their own software on android 2.1 Dec 29 20:36:25 but the SDK is all there and open Dec 29 20:36:27 CTLAdvance: there's a boot disk you can run to get market Dec 29 20:36:30 the UI's nice but not like Dec 29 20:36:31 ipad nice Dec 29 20:36:43 yeah... what torchie said Dec 29 20:36:44 I prefer the original nook for the eink screen Dec 29 20:36:51 eh not much of an eink person Dec 29 20:36:51 though, didnt think about the color for android Dec 29 20:37:03 CTLAdvance, i kind of agree... but there's something about the nook color that feels legit Dec 29 20:37:10 yeah it's strangely legit as hell Dec 29 20:37:18 CTLAdvance: the folks at nookdevs are making the nookcolor into a general tablet Dec 29 20:37:22 only problem I have with it as a reader though Dec 29 20:37:25 lol nice Dec 29 20:37:26 is the crappy pdf functionality Dec 29 20:37:32 mugen- no not really. So far it's just a toy I don't see any real use from it yet Dec 29 20:37:37 I've already got launcherpro and angry birds loaded up lol Dec 29 20:37:38 I love my kindle Dec 29 20:37:50 give me the ipad! Dec 29 20:37:54 JenP, awe... i'm sorry to hear that... Dec 29 20:38:07 I sit looking at LCD's about 16 - 20 hours a day, the eink is a nice break Dec 29 20:38:08 yeah :D here's my addy -> 9011 E Blanch--- Dec 29 20:38:18 i'll pay for shipping ;) Dec 29 20:38:20 LOL if i could develope for it I think i'd be happier Dec 29 20:38:28 you can! Dec 29 20:38:29 but you have to the whole apple crap Dec 29 20:38:35 man when's the 10 inch webos tablet dropping Dec 29 20:38:36 phonegap it up! Dec 29 20:38:37 lol yes i know Dec 29 20:38:39 JenP I can wire 200 dollars to your account by morning Dec 29 20:38:45 you will meet me at undisclosed location Dec 29 20:38:46 I'd drop anything that exists for that in a heartbeat Dec 29 20:38:51 lol Dec 29 20:38:55 lol no guys I can't send it to you, it's from work Dec 29 20:39:10 all in all nc's pretty deesh though Dec 29 20:39:11 I will wire 200 dollars into your works account Dec 29 20:39:13 i'm evaluating it's possibilities Dec 29 20:39:17 you will meet me at undisclosed location Dec 29 20:39:29 I don't think that would go with the 1200 they spent for it... Dec 29 20:39:29 lol Dec 29 20:39:33 ctl is persistent Dec 29 20:39:49 1200?!?! Dec 29 20:39:50 I think they overpaid so they could give it to me Dec 29 20:39:51 you will meet me at undisclosed location Dec 29 20:39:55 LOL Dec 29 20:39:57 they went overboard...and the apple tech got them to buy everything Dec 29 20:40:04 you will meet me at undisclosed location Dec 29 20:40:21 wait Dec 29 20:40:25 yup high end ipad, wireless keyboard, docking station, book cover Dec 29 20:40:28 why do I need that when I have my Sprint Pre 2 now Dec 29 20:40:41 it's the size of a mark twain paperback... a mark twain paperback that can hold 60,000 mark twain paperbacks, browse the internet, search a japanese dictionary, and emulate sega genesis Dec 29 20:40:42 oh, los apps Dec 29 20:40:43 Sprint Pre 2? Dec 29 20:40:45 >:D Dec 29 20:40:47 CTLAdvance, you will meet me at undisclosed location. Dec 29 20:40:50 Yes my sprint pre 2 Dec 29 20:40:50 i will give you nothing Dec 29 20:40:50 sprint pre 2 what Dec 29 20:40:58 yeah sprint pre 2 is great and all but Dec 29 20:41:03 I'm busy with my sprint broadway Dec 29 20:41:21 ah, id have a sprint broadway if it was more than vaporware Dec 29 20:41:22 i want a sprint pre2, is it a mod? Dec 29 20:41:25 or if they were available Dec 29 20:41:28 and topaz with whispernet Dec 29 20:41:30 Yes it is Dec 29 20:41:47 i just want my effing discount coupon already Dec 29 20:41:51 Figured out how to get the sprint pre 2 to work properly yesterday Dec 29 20:41:56 does it really take this freaking long?! Dec 29 20:42:00 yes Dec 29 20:42:03 everyone is out on holiday Dec 29 20:42:05 I just want a webos slate on sprint :( Dec 29 20:42:16 grr Dec 29 20:42:21 well they shouldn't Dec 29 20:42:22 be Dec 29 20:42:27 I hope they use the same com board on all devices, so we can get them on whatever network Dec 29 20:42:28 :D Dec 29 20:42:38 made of diamonds and magnesium Dec 29 20:42:39 CES is only 20 days away. they need to get their s*it together Dec 29 20:42:46 are they gonna be at CES? Dec 29 20:42:46 20 days? Dec 29 20:42:49 isnt it next week Dec 29 20:42:57 i thought it was the 18th or something Dec 29 20:43:09 I thought hp wasnt showing up at CES or something Dec 29 20:43:12 I think it startes next thursday Dec 29 20:43:14 nope Dec 29 20:43:17 6-9th Dec 29 20:43:19 my bad Dec 29 20:43:20 HP has a closed room like it is 2009 Dec 29 20:43:32 * mugen- sighs Dec 29 20:43:47 how many times has apple been to CES since 2001 Dec 29 20:43:49 CTLAdvance, how's the wp7 dev coming? Dec 29 20:43:52 * CTLAdvance slaps himself with a spell checking fish and loses his own ability to spell correctly Dec 29 20:44:02 o.O Dec 29 20:44:02 Not bad Dec 29 20:44:17 * CTLAdvance trout*** Dec 29 20:44:23 hehe Dec 29 20:45:00 god i love how elegant metro is Dec 29 20:45:12 Yeah, its pretty sweet Dec 29 20:45:27 the public should be getting some nice updates soon Dec 29 20:45:32 really? Dec 29 20:45:36 what's on the cooker? Dec 29 20:46:26 oh money printer, global thermo dynamic hyperdrive, you know the usual Dec 29 20:46:35 yeah wp7 is hott Dec 29 20:46:40 flux capacitor? Dec 29 20:46:46 ill have to ask Dec 29 20:46:50 a few extra jiggawatts Dec 29 20:46:58 if you have to ask... you know it's going to be a no :( Dec 29 20:47:01 * mugen- sighs again. Dec 29 20:47:01 they may need more plutonium for that Dec 29 20:47:11 damnit Dec 29 20:47:19 i told them Dec 29 20:47:41 one day we will replace battery with pocketable nuclear reactor, in which case Dec 29 20:47:49 * CTLAdvance has a nuclear reactor in his pants Dec 29 20:47:58 lol Dec 29 20:47:59 oh yeah Dec 29 20:48:16 is that nuclear fission in your pants, or are you just hot to see me? Dec 29 20:48:21 :D Dec 29 20:48:22 hahahaha Dec 29 20:48:32 CTLAdvance: and your nads will glow green Dec 29 20:48:37 right?! Dec 29 20:48:42 ooo wife will like that Dec 29 20:48:45 haha Dec 29 20:48:47 LOL Dec 29 20:52:01 I like how everything I need to know is on the live tiles Dec 29 20:52:18 yup Dec 29 20:52:35 i love how it's an incredibly organic homescreen Dec 29 20:52:39 but it's sooooo simple Dec 29 20:52:51 but gives you a wealth of feedback with a little eyecandy Dec 29 20:53:05 oh god Dec 29 20:53:11 oil's back Dec 29 20:53:12 and the screen doesnt shrink when you get a notificatiom Dec 29 20:53:19 yep Dec 29 20:53:33 oil..... I... have.... a... working.... pre.... 2.... on.... sprint Dec 29 20:53:33 it's your fault :( Dec 29 20:53:35 >:) Dec 29 20:53:41 nice Dec 29 20:54:01 And now im going to put WP7 on it Dec 29 20:54:04 muwahahahahaha Dec 29 20:54:07 o.O Dec 29 20:54:17 * mugen- readies the pimp hand Dec 29 20:54:33 sounds like a good way to ruin a perfectly good sprint pre2 Dec 29 20:54:40 mmmhmmm Dec 29 20:55:01 my how your attitude changes mugen Dec 29 20:55:10 he was just telling me how much he loves WP7 Dec 29 20:55:22 i do! Dec 29 20:55:23 don't you now have a gsm pre to put it on? Dec 29 20:55:38 but wp7 and webos hardware/software should stay seperate Dec 29 20:55:40 That would make an interesting layout Dec 29 20:55:57 Pre 2 w/WP7 Dec 29 20:56:00 no bastard love child Dec 29 20:56:11 hey Dec 29 20:56:13 I can dream Dec 29 20:56:28 how about the other way around at least :P Dec 29 20:56:29 but 2.0 is so slick... tough Dec 29 20:56:31 dream right... Dec 29 20:56:35 oil are you in the eap? Dec 29 20:56:42 yes Dec 29 20:56:55 webos 2.0 on a higher resolution screen Dec 29 20:57:07 first rule of the eap Dec 29 20:57:09 ... Dec 29 20:57:23 hehe Dec 29 20:57:29 I can't say I'm not in it.. Dec 29 20:57:42 or Brad Pitt will come and kick your ass Dec 29 20:59:31 http://goo.gl/aqXci yum! Dec 29 21:12:09 whoa... the oatmeal webcomic makes $1000/day Dec 29 21:12:16 http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2010/12/online_cartoons Dec 29 21:14:27 omg Dec 29 21:14:33 http://www2.warnerbros.com/spacejam/movie/jam.htm Dec 29 21:14:36 party like its 1996 Dec 29 21:16:37 oh shit Dec 29 21:17:31 anyone here watch Michio Kaku documentaries/movies? Dec 29 21:20:46 dawm: IT HAS FRAMES! Dec 29 21:20:58 i knoes Dec 29 21:24:29 btw, that movie was awesome Dec 29 21:24:41 lol Dec 29 21:27:11 what's the EAP? Early Access Program? Dec 29 21:34:18 yep Dec 29 21:38:23 rwhitby - Do you know how we can change how the browser reports itself so we could possibly change it to report as IE or Firefox instead of a mobile browser Dec 29 21:38:47 I have some work applications that require this Dec 29 21:38:56 I know we had a patch that did something similar Dec 29 21:40:30 rwhitby: binary patch would be required, or we'd have to build webkit from palm's sources which AFAIK nobody has yet done successfully Dec 29 21:40:37 err CTLAdvance ^ Dec 29 21:41:00 CTLAdvance: there is a binary patch capability available - ping egaudet to find out about it Dec 29 21:41:08 ok thanks Dec 29 21:53:33 SineOt! Dec 29 21:55:47 dohtem! Dec 29 21:58:01 Hey alls Dec 29 21:58:45 SineOt: FYI I think broadway and other devices being 320x400 and having keyboards etc is a lie. I think they leave all that as defaults on internal builds Dec 29 21:59:11 halfhalo: ping Dec 29 21:59:17 destinal: touchableRows: 7 though? Dec 29 21:59:30 no se ingles Dec 29 22:00:02 SineOt: what do the other devices report? Dec 29 22:00:14 Pixi reports 7, Pre/Pre2 8 Dec 29 22:00:30 SineOt: so I'm willing to bet all the undefined hardware just claims to be a pixi Dec 29 22:00:36 which would make sense with the other info Dec 29 22:01:15 not really, because if it just reports being a Pixi then why report a nonreplaceable battery and a slider when the Pixi never had that to begin with? Dec 29 22:01:51 Or for that matter why to pick the Pixi as the stock undefined hardware when the Pre has existed a lot longer P: Dec 29 22:02:19 SineOt: anyway my point is it doesn't necessarily mean anything Dec 29 22:02:41 all their internal dev hw could say the same thing Dec 29 22:05:35 destinal: now you've got me trying to dig up the Roadrunner log captures Dec 29 22:06:46 since I know it got captured Dec 29 22:07:10 :) Dec 29 22:07:24 lol Dec 29 22:07:35 but looking at it, I don't know if anything more than the device name got caught Dec 29 22:08:07 guys, never seen this message in the sms' on webos 1.x Dec 29 22:08:08 messages can no longer be sent or received in this conversation Dec 29 22:08:18 it hates you Dec 29 22:08:33 is this something new and looks like it appears when the convo has aged a day? Dec 29 22:08:38 nice halfhalo Dec 29 22:08:50 thought so :) Dec 29 22:09:09 sorry, forgot to mention seeing this on webos 2.01 Dec 29 22:09:19 just a bit weird s'all :) Dec 29 22:10:56 Yeah, messaging in 2.x right now seems a bit weird Dec 29 22:11:20 as long as its not just me :) Dec 29 22:11:42 webos 2 still feels completely beta'd Dec 29 22:12:22 odd bugs to iron out, ppp session/call drops, some texts appearing to come from a different person etc Dec 29 22:12:40 Yeah Dec 29 22:12:42 wouldnt swop it though :) Dec 29 22:12:53 It's probably why it hasn't ended up on every device yet :p Dec 29 22:13:16 yer i had guessed as much Dec 29 22:13:57 destinal: I'd say that given that the Broadway reported stuff that had never been reported before (the nonreplaceable battery) that it isn't just some placeholder text Dec 29 22:18:01 webos 2 may still feel beta as it is still missing many features in the current build Dec 29 22:18:28 but it is still much more polished than 1.4.5 could ever be, not that we have anything higher than that on our pre - and pre + Dec 29 22:18:48 if you dont have a pre 2 you cant fairly judge it Dec 29 22:19:20 After using a pre 2, 1.4.5 seems like the OS of a feature phone, nothing more Dec 29 22:19:31 not a smartphone Dec 29 22:20:13 I'm not sure I can agree with that, but it is nicer Dec 29 22:22:39 :o Dec 29 22:22:56 does webos have that baby butt smooth scrolling Dec 29 22:23:00 webos 2* Dec 29 22:24:03 on a pre2 everything is smooth Dec 29 22:26:38 we dont know what 2.0 will be like in legacy devices, however on a Pre 2, its baby butt smooth, like after using baby powder smooth, like Keystone smooth Dec 29 22:27:07 torchie why are you always asking about that smooth scrolling Dec 29 22:27:20 have you seen that smooth scrolling Dec 29 22:27:21 does wp7 have it, windows 7 have it, webos 2 have it, your mom have it? Dec 29 22:27:29 :D Dec 29 22:27:29 yeah wp7 has it Dec 29 22:27:31 in spades Dec 29 22:27:34 ctl, i know why Dec 29 22:27:51 seen what smooth scrolling? Dec 29 22:27:58 why mugen Dec 29 22:28:01 have you Dec 29 22:28:03 seen it Dec 29 22:28:11 on what> Dec 29 22:28:11 it's indicative of a fluid os Dec 29 22:28:16 I have it on my Sprint Pre 2 Dec 29 22:28:20 super smooth Dec 29 22:28:22 like butta Dec 29 22:28:28 i HATE choppy response from my devices Dec 29 22:28:31 yeah Dec 29 22:28:34 I can't stand it Dec 29 22:28:36 same Dec 29 22:28:43 especially when I get a chance at using a first gen ipod touch Dec 29 22:28:44 android is notorious for it Dec 29 22:28:53 the new app launcher, like butta Dec 29 22:28:56 unless you have a bagillion ghz processor Dec 29 22:29:01 android's problem is less choppiness than inconsistency Dec 29 22:29:07 android is like the win95 of the mobile world Dec 29 22:29:08 webos 1.x is like, consistently choppy Dec 29 22:29:15 android is like hhhhURHUARHUAHUHARahahauhau Dec 29 22:29:16 actually Dec 29 22:29:33 on pre 1 1.0.x and 1.1.x were really smooth Dec 29 22:29:39 define smooth Dec 29 22:29:43 when we jumped to 1.3.x is when the problem came Dec 29 22:29:52 I kind of came into webos with 1.3.x Dec 29 22:29:56 yeah Dec 29 22:29:57 only time pre/pixi 1's are smooth is when you're not interacting with the device Dec 29 22:29:59 was it like iphone smooth Dec 29 22:30:00 that was not good Dec 29 22:30:10 if you are touching the screen at the same time.. it gets choppy Dec 29 22:30:14 pre 1 on 1.0.x and 1.1.x could take constant photos Dec 29 22:30:24 yeah that's why I'm worried that even 2.0 on pre minus will feel the same Dec 29 22:30:24 1.3.x came and blah Dec 29 22:30:38 I cant confirm nor deny your statement Dec 29 22:30:51 I came into webOS on 1.2.9 on the Pixi Dec 29 22:30:58 pixi I cant speak for Dec 29 22:30:59 hey sine! Dec 29 22:31:03 and good lord I wanted to throw my phone out the window a few times Dec 29 22:31:05 what's cracking dude? Dec 29 22:31:10 dang Dec 29 22:31:14 and i was considering getting pixi Dec 29 22:31:23 i love my pixi+ Dec 29 22:31:24 it's a lot better now on 1.4.5 Dec 29 22:31:29 i hate the name... but love the device Dec 29 22:31:29 since it might be cheaper on craigslist and not arhouahegoaijgoaisjdgoaisdgj sliding mechanism Dec 29 22:31:39 on 1.2.9 it'd like, stutter for 5 seconds when switching apps Dec 29 22:31:45 so you'd have a card half on the screen half off Dec 29 22:31:49 and nothing would respond Dec 29 22:31:50 blah Dec 29 22:31:51 lel Dec 29 22:31:57 lel? Dec 29 22:32:02 lal* Dec 29 22:32:03 is that a retard lol'ing? Dec 29 22:32:10 I meant lal Dec 29 22:32:14 uh huh Dec 29 22:32:16 sure you did Dec 29 22:32:35 i'm on to you dude Dec 29 22:32:38 lal = (I laughed) like a lumberjack Dec 29 22:32:51 i wouldn't get the pixi Dec 29 22:32:59 the pre is slow. the pixi is slower Dec 29 22:33:00 mmmm ali larter in resident evil Dec 29 22:33:03 found a bug with universal search, it only returns the first hit if there are 2 apps with the same name (for example angry birds and angry birds (seasons uses the same name) Dec 29 22:33:10 yeah my frustrations would be a lot of apps I like not working Dec 29 22:33:12 on your pre 2 Dec 29 22:33:17 and the no wifis Dec 29 22:33:17 dawm? Dec 29 22:33:20 now that I've got a Pre+ and my Pixi, if I had to pick again... I'd probably still end up with the Pixi Dec 29 22:33:20 or the gbs Dec 29 22:33:30 SineOt, yup... me too Dec 29 22:33:38 I bet the pixi's headphone jack doesn't crap out on you Dec 29 22:33:45 i love the bigger screen... but i love the form factor Dec 29 22:33:47 I haven't had issue with it Dec 29 22:33:56 sprint pixi is still 8gb right Dec 29 22:34:00 torchie, you're toxic to devices... Dec 29 22:34:10 torchie the plus is too Dec 29 22:34:16 yeah but im on sprint Dec 29 22:34:17 you need to go back to use a zack morris brick phone Dec 29 22:34:18 ;-; Dec 29 22:34:25 i doubt palm will announce anything at ces. it seems as if they are just getting prepared Dec 29 22:34:34 palm will announc something Dec 29 22:34:36 in the coming months Dec 29 22:34:37 They have a closed room there like its 2009\ Dec 29 22:34:42 they have to announce SOMETHING Dec 29 22:34:43 when they launched the pre Dec 29 22:34:53 either a tease... a photo, a word Dec 29 22:34:53 you know what would be a really good idea Dec 29 22:34:57 _something_ will be said. Dec 29 22:35:04 They wouldnt have a room if they werent launching SOMETHING Dec 29 22:35:06 to show off a phone at CES and then release it in june Dec 29 22:35:07 maybe a printer Dec 29 22:35:15 yea Dec 29 22:35:17 why june Dec 29 22:35:22 why not Dec 29 22:35:23 ...yeah, june? Dec 29 22:35:25 i don't think they want to make tht mistake again Dec 29 22:35:26 January 29th Dec 29 22:35:32 I think it might be MWC in February Dec 29 22:35:41 a webOS printer, a webOS copier, a webOS TV Dec 29 22:35:43 that's what we want right Dec 29 22:35:46 where is congress this year? Dec 29 22:35:52 webos toaster Dec 29 22:35:54 Does anyone know they have a room like when they launched the pre Dec 29 22:36:01 same room if I remember to be correct Dec 29 22:36:02 what was the pre launch room liek Dec 29 22:36:04 mugen-: Barcelona. Always Dec 29 22:36:05 dang Dec 29 22:36:08 big conf room Dec 29 22:36:12 it's like they're going back to that room to settle some BIZNESS Dec 29 22:36:18 yes Dec 29 22:36:20 dohtem, oh... it doesn't ever change, eh? Dec 29 22:36:23 kick ass and chew bubble gume Dec 29 22:36:28 and Dec 29 22:36:29 they're Dec 29 22:36:29 all Dec 29 22:36:31 out of gum Dec 29 22:36:33 mugen-: not sure. Dec 29 22:36:36 yo check it out it's the palm FACE MELT Dec 29 22:36:38 oh SNAP Dec 29 22:36:44 lol Dec 29 22:36:49 it finishes tasks BEFORE YOU CONSIDER DOING THEM Dec 29 22:36:51 You turn it on by pissing in a toilet Dec 29 22:36:58 and is made of UNIBODY DIAMOND CONSTRUCTION Dec 29 22:37:11 >.< Dec 29 22:37:18 and there's 5 HEADPHONE JACKS Dec 29 22:37:21 every screen press is met with, Come Get Some , and I dont have time for this shit Dec 29 22:37:32 lol Dec 29 22:37:34 in Samuel L Jacksons voice Dec 29 22:37:38 no Dec 29 22:37:41 duke nukems Dec 29 22:37:50 what if samuel l jackson played duke nukem Dec 29 22:37:54 uh Dec 29 22:37:58 ok its allowed Dec 29 22:38:02 it wouldn't be duke? Dec 29 22:38:10 Black Duke Dec 29 22:38:12 really what is duke Dec 29 22:38:17 Duke is your mom? Dec 29 22:38:19 is he the euphemism for a new religion Dec 29 22:38:27 ...maybe? Dec 29 22:38:38 Wait... duke did your mom Dec 29 22:38:55 im getting demo access with DNF comes out :P pays to have friends that work in the gaming biz Dec 29 22:39:14 Im getting demo access when the demo comes out too Dec 29 22:39:16 dawm, yeah me too :P it's called bittorrents Dec 29 22:39:18 BOOYAA Dec 29 22:39:22 mugen, console Dec 29 22:39:22 the palm topaz Dec 29 22:39:26 lol Dec 29 22:39:28 comes with a FREE COPY OF DUKE NUKEM FOREVER Dec 29 22:39:35 dawm, like i said... bittorrent ;) Dec 29 22:39:36 it better Dec 29 22:39:39 a webOS exclusive. Dec 29 22:39:45 or ill park my bricks on it Dec 29 22:39:46 the Palm Topaz IS DUKE NUKEM FOREVER Dec 29 22:40:01 oh SNAP Dec 29 22:40:04 you know we work our butts off to deliver you the best products Dec 29 22:40:06 DUKE NUKEM FOREVER JUST IS Dec 29 22:40:06 you guys are jerks! /Ruby Dec 29 22:40:11 lol Dec 29 22:40:12 so we decided, when constructing the new palm topaz Dec 29 22:40:15 not to use plastic Dec 29 22:40:18 not to use aluminum Dec 29 22:40:22 not to use stainless steel Dec 29 22:40:25 but DUKE NUKEM FOREVER Dec 29 22:40:29 FUCK YEAH Dec 29 22:40:51 1000% PURE ASS KICKING BUBBLE GUM CHEWING UNIBODY CONSTRUCTION Dec 29 22:40:52 HAIL TO THE KING BABY Dec 29 22:41:01 anyone got some recommendations for neat homebrew stuff for wii? Dec 29 22:41:04 queue Grab Bag Dec 29 22:41:24 you know the problem with drinking all this water Dec 29 22:41:25 I have to like Dec 29 22:41:28 use the bathroom more Dec 29 22:41:28 * CTLAdvance queues song titled DUKE NUKEM Dec 29 22:41:38 * mugen- palm smacks Dec 29 22:41:42 * torchie queues song titled Kiss by a Rose Dec 29 22:41:45 Palm Topaz: SHIPS WITH FREE BALLS OF STEEEEEEEEEEL Dec 29 22:41:52 * CTLAdvance responds with shock and aw Dec 29 22:41:52 kiss from a rose Dec 29 22:41:55 you know what I mean Dec 29 22:42:03 i'm so confused. Dec 29 22:42:07 2 girls 1 duke? Dec 29 22:42:17 it'd be great to have a palm phone with a lanyard hole Dec 29 22:42:25 b-b-b-b-balls of steel Dec 29 22:42:29 and they provide you with a wrist strap where there are just two steel balls on the end Dec 29 22:42:46 * halfhalo has gotten a coolios feature working for his gitosis web thinger Dec 29 22:43:03 liar Dec 29 22:43:17 only sometimes Dec 29 22:43:26 there's no such thing as the "web" Dec 29 22:43:29 * mugen- rolls his eyes Dec 29 22:43:32 but I made it so that it can read in existing gitosis.conf files :D Dec 29 22:43:51 sweet :) Dec 29 22:44:09 yup! Dec 29 22:51:20 really what is the web Dec 29 22:51:41 a sticky thing that gets everywhere and you can't wash it off Dec 29 22:51:52 no wonder we're building an OS around it Dec 29 22:54:43 you know last night I was trying to find a way to copy and paste some text from a website into some notes on my nc Dec 29 22:54:46 what an experience Dec 29 22:55:15 downloaded 3 apps, none of which came close to inglorious notes :( -- and none of them used text fields I could paste to Dec 29 22:55:23 wanna write some notes? whip out a pre :d Dec 29 22:58:53 I'll just leave this here - http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/29/just-got-a-palm-phone-the-best-apps-accessories-and-tips/ Dec 29 23:11:43 what they did one for palm phones? Dec 29 23:12:30 hey twee's at the top Dec 29 23:12:32 that article reminded me of something odd with my pre2 Dec 29 23:12:40 touchstone sweet spot Dec 29 23:12:45 cant find it! Dec 29 23:12:50 pre- fine Dec 29 23:12:55 pre2, nada Dec 29 23:12:59 lol Dec 29 23:13:31 any other pre2 owners have the same? Dec 29 23:13:59 tweed is in the space of "weatherIcon" :o Dec 29 23:14:09 Draecos: works fine here Dec 29 23:14:22 torchie: yeah, topolsky's got a soft spot for palm. his original pre review has long as heck Dec 29 23:14:42 yeah he's passionate Dec 29 23:14:48 rwhitby, bugger Dec 29 23:14:51 at least someone is >:o Dec 29 23:14:56 and in one podcast he straight up said Dec 29 23:14:59 "android is a scam" Dec 29 23:15:14 annoying me, it wont just sit there on it, consta Charging Battery flash Dec 29 23:15:38 or works for 30 secs, then flashes the battery message, then again shortly after Dec 29 23:15:39 weirdo Dec 29 23:19:54 could really do with a remote desktop client Dec 29 23:20:04 is there one on preware? i dont have it on my pre2 atm Dec 29 23:51:54 anyone know what eclipse needs to see in the directory structure in order to import a project as a webos project? Dec 30 00:01:13 mugen-: I imported a few ones already that I didn't create myself and never bothered about this and just imported the folder which contains folders and files: app, images, javascript, resources, stylesheets, appinfo.json, index.html, sources.json, etc Dec 30 00:01:52 I never had any issues to build and execute them on the emulator so I believe I could probably run them on a real device too Dec 30 00:02:26 yeah, i'm having issues with certain projects. i can't figure out what's different between these projects, and others that i have successfully imported before Dec 30 00:02:58 do you get any error messages? Dec 30 00:03:48 nope... i just can't add the project because the list that populates after you browse for a dir or archive doesn't give me the option to checkmark the project Dec 30 00:03:58 it just doesn't populate the list with anything Dec 30 00:09:40 are there only 3 pages I can put my apps on in webOS? Dec 30 00:10:04 patch it! Dec 30 00:10:15 I was just wondering:P Dec 30 00:11:02 anyone ever get a "badly formed JASON string" error from the appinfo.json file? Dec 30 00:11:27 it was running fine up until 2 mins ago. If I change the id name, it will run fine again Dec 30 00:11:40 but not with its existing name Dec 30 00:12:02 what's different? Dec 30 00:12:13 I mean, how different is it? Dec 30 00:12:15 what did jason do to your appinfo.json file? Dec 30 00:12:15 xD Dec 30 00:12:17 i added a number 2 Dec 30 00:12:26 crap...OL Dec 30 00:12:48 "id":"com.sinacism.tastyweather" ==>BAD Dec 30 00:12:55 "id":"com.sinacism.tastyweather2" ==>GOOD Dec 30 00:13:00 that is the only difference Dec 30 00:13:18 any of you try out the port of mplayer? Dec 30 00:13:36 JenP: what if you write "two" instead? Dec 30 00:14:02 Spanska it will work Dec 30 00:14:07 JenP: have you tried to put the number elsewhere, not at the end? Dec 30 00:14:32 yeah it seems to be hung up on the original name and that's it Dec 30 00:15:59 or the JVM, has anyone been able to contact the developer about the source code Dec 30 00:16:09 ah found it...it didnt' uninstall like i thought it had. after i removed it all is well Dec 30 00:16:29 JenP: is that with the emulator? Dec 30 00:16:41 yeah Dec 30 00:17:13 I ran into weird issues like HTML files not being updated even though I would remove the app and run it again from Eclipse Dec 30 00:17:47 The only way I found to fix this was to restart the emulator and push the app again on it. With the exact same source code, everything started working again.. really strange Dec 30 00:17:58 nodnod i hear ya Dec 30 00:18:10 just in case it happens to you ;) Dec 30 00:18:24 (fl) Dec 30 00:21:46 mugen-: I usually create a new project in eclipse, then copy the files into that directory rather than importing... Dec 30 00:23:24 yeah... that's what i ended up doing. Dec 30 00:23:50 was just wondering if other people had a solution or experienced the issue before Dec 30 00:50:50 boom, action time! Dec 30 01:02:40 Hi i notice that on precentral a lot of people are trying to contact "chomper" the developer working on porting mplayer, not sure if anyone has noticed but he gives his email in his "appinfo.json" file Dec 30 01:03:27 Hi i notice that on precentral a lot of people are trying to contact "chomper" the developer working on porting mplayer, not sure if anyone has noticed but he gives his email in his "appinfo.json" file Dec 30 01:06:32 Is anyone here? Dec 30 01:07:47 yes Dec 30 01:07:59 lies Dec 30 01:08:50 not sure if my last message sent Dec 30 01:08:59 yes, they both did Dec 30 01:10:09 I don't have a precentral account and don't feel like creating one right now just to post this Dec 30 01:10:34 we shall spam the message at your behest! Dec 30 01:13:15 to see the appinfo.json file you just need to open the .ipk with 7-zip and navigate through it's subdirectories till you find it Dec 30 01:26:08 bubble Dec 30 01:26:21 sorry wrong window Dec 30 01:33:06 * halfhalo laughs evily Dec 30 01:34:12 bobble Dec 30 01:35:36 hrm, app acts differently on emu and real device, strange Dec 30 01:40:26 dun dun Dec 30 01:40:29 go for the real device behavior! Dec 30 01:58:22 using wIRC on my Pre 2. did the app and service have to be updated for this to run or was it just "compatable" Dec 30 02:00:28 there is no service Dec 30 02:00:37 but, no, it works the same on 2.0 as it does on 1.4.5 Dec 30 02:00:53 * halfhalo figured out why his thinger wasn't working Dec 30 02:06:40 Is there a way to know what functions are listening for certain events? Dec 30 02:26:30 cool. thanks. just curious. Dec 30 02:36:20 rwhitby: i noticed you made the latest commit to the cross-compile.git repo Dec 30 02:36:51 assuming it works for you, what repo of linux are you working from? Dec 30 02:43:40 wrong channel, sorry **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Dec 30 02:59:58 2010