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Jan 01 03:11:07 <SineOt> ugh, how in the world :C
Jan 01 03:11:24 <SineOt> "on" > stored as a cookie > [object Object]
Jan 01 03:11:56 <halfhalo> Lol
Jan 01 03:14:04 <SineOt> any ideas on what I'm doing so terrible wrong here?
Jan 01 03:18:34 <SineOt> oh
Jan 01 03:18:36 <SineOt> oh you know
Jan 01 03:18:42 <SineOt> oh gosh how did I :C
Jan 01 03:18:53 <SineOt> I'm feeding it the raw cookie, I'm not actually .get()'ing it
Jan 01 03:29:03 <SineOt> ugh still annoying~
Jan 01 03:41:28 <SineOt> man this is so confusing me DX
Jan 01 03:56:54 <SineOt> Checking if a cookie is undefined is beating my butt :C
Jan 01 03:57:05 <oil> kinky
Jan 01 03:57:42 <SineOt> "error: ERROR: native parser didn't like 'undefined'"
Jan 01 03:57:51 <oil> that sounds like a json problem
Jan 01 03:59:02 <SineOt> Except what's throwing it is... if (haptics == undefined)
Jan 01 04:18:02 <SineOt> Weird. Comment it out a few times, uncomment... And suddenly it works fine!
Jan 01 04:35:45 <dohtem> HAPPY NEW YEAR DEVS!
Jan 01 06:26:52 <rwhitby-pre> morning
Jan 01 07:03:42 <mugen-> Happy New Year! (AZ Time)
Jan 01 07:34:18 <HattCzech> happy new year (except to those still in 2010)
Jan 01 07:35:32 <fahhem_pre> I got a half hour left
Jan 01 07:36:50 <HattCzech> west coast, eh?
Jan 01 07:38:18 <fahhem_pre> Far west, ya
Jan 01 07:39:27 <fahhem_pre> The tv broadcast is so old it's black and white
Jan 01 07:51:33 <mugen-> k... so i'm watching my sister play the sims 3 and i dunno if it's busted or what. but she's getting the bf/gf to "try for a baby" and by the time they're done, she ends up in the hospital and the baby is born
Jan 01 07:51:42 <mugen-> it's so effin weird...
Jan 01 08:03:36 <fahhem_pre> Happy new years pacific coast!
Jan 01 08:16:09 <HattCzech> that is odd
Jan 01 08:16:17 <HattCzech> mugen-: happy new year
Jan 01 08:16:45 <HattCzech> did you figure out what i might be able to do for my port forwarding/redirecting thing i'm trying?
Jan 01 08:17:06 <HattCzech> i might be able to do it through apache and mod_proxy
Jan 01 08:19:13 <fahhem_pre> HattCzech: nginx is usually faster than apache for just proxying
Jan 01 09:04:51 <mugen-> HattCzech, sorry for the lagged response... happy new years!
Jan 01 09:05:02 <mugen-> sorry, i haven't... to be honest, it was kind of a busy day =\
Jan 01 09:05:58 <mugen-> it was mod_proxy that i used... i just can't remember how i had it configured. i know i used a nice walk through tho
Jan 01 10:05:30 <SineOt> Huh, there's a new "what's new in this version" field when you submit an app update on the dev site, that's cool
Jan 01 10:15:10 <fahhem> finally... it's so hard getting a changelog on apps that want to 'update'
Jan 01 10:16:43 <krushia> !snack
Jan 01 10:16:46 <krushia> wait
Jan 01 10:16:51 <krushia> oops
Jan 01 10:17:10 <fahhem> you crashed SineOt
Jan 01 14:41:50 <MetaView> Happy New Year!
Jan 01 14:52:46 <Spanska> Happy New Year! :D
Jan 01 16:22:01 <solix> happy new years..
Jan 01 16:52:27 <TayTaBBB> any dev?
Jan 01 16:52:47 <MetaView> hm
Jan 01 19:31:43 <Tibfib> oh gosh. http://sk8away.net/
Jan 01 19:31:59 <Tibfib> I'm sad to say that rink is semi nearby
Jan 01 19:51:25 <Tibfib> is there a way to simulate a forward gesture in the emu?
Jan 01 19:55:47 <dawm_> heh.. this dvd says its got 400gb on it, i think it has linked files
Jan 01 19:56:49 <Tibfib> dawm_: magic dvd
Jan 01 19:56:58 <dawm_> well it is a screener
Jan 01 19:57:04 <dawm_> 127 hours
Jan 01 19:58:09 <dawm_> it was laying on the ground in the parking deck at work, must have fallen out of someones luggage
Jan 01 19:58:40 <Tibfib> heh, get good drops sometimes?
Jan 01 19:59:06 <dawm_> found a usb cable that works with the pre one day
Jan 01 19:59:20 <dawm_> back when i only had one and no touchstones
Jan 01 19:59:31 <Tibfib> nice
Jan 01 20:32:04 <PuffTheMagic> does anyone know how to position a spinner in a palm-row
Jan 01 20:32:13 <PuffTheMagic> when i add it, it shows up on the right
Jan 01 20:32:16 <PuffTheMagic> and i cant seem to move it
Jan 01 20:32:31 <PuffTheMagic> i want it on the left side of the toggle button
Jan 01 20:32:37 <PuffTheMagic> but right of the label
Jan 01 20:33:26 <dawm_> i love you phillip morris is just wrong.. wrong wrong wrong
Jan 01 20:39:34 <dawm_> haha
Jan 01 20:39:41 <dawm_> the best line ive ever seen on a sizing chart
Jan 01 20:39:42 <dawm_> If there is not a larger size, consider starting a belly-hanging-out trend.
Jan 01 20:59:54 <rwhitby-pre> morning
Jan 01 21:01:56 <halfhalo> Morning
Jan 01 21:34:54 <Tibfib> so prototypes array.clone() would clone the array, but the objects inside the array would be the same?
Jan 01 21:35:27 <dawm_> its not a deep clone tho
Jan 01 21:35:27 <Tibfib> I have an array of objects, and I clone it, then change an item in the cloned object, and it seems to change the original array
Jan 01 21:35:34 <Tibfib> as well
Jan 01 21:35:42 <Tibfib> I'm guessing it is changing the object?
Jan 01 21:35:52 <Tibfib> dawm_: don't need a deep clone
Jan 01 21:36:09 <Tibfib> well maybe I do, what's a deep clone?
Jan 01 21:36:30 <dawm_> it goes deep
Jan 01 21:36:38 <Tibfib> ooooohhhhhhhhh
Jan 01 21:36:49 <Tibfib> So I'm guessing a deep clone will clone the objects too?
Jan 01 21:36:49 <dawm_> probably what you need if the objects arent sticking to themselves
Jan 01 21:37:44 <dawm_> worth a shot
Jan 01 21:37:56 <dawm_> i know theres some functions out on the net that will do it i just dont recall any right now
Jan 01 21:38:05 <dawm_> i know i was looking for them a week or so back
Jan 01 21:38:16 <dawm_> check on stackoverflow
Jan 01 21:38:22 <Tibfib> will do
Jan 01 21:38:36 <dawm_> i know i found some on there
Jan 01 21:39:23 <Tibfib> It might just be easier to loop thru the array and get rid of a property.
Jan 01 21:42:31 <Tibfib> would $.evalJSON($.toJSON(origArray)); work well?
Jan 01 21:49:31 <twbbas> How can I parse a javascript website? All I get is the javascript code instead of the html that is displayed after the js code is run.
Jan 01 21:53:35 <dawm_> eval
Jan 01 21:53:38 <dawm_> but it could be dangerous
Jan 01 21:54:25 <twbbas> Is there any alternative?
Jan 01 21:55:42 <Tibfib> twbbas: what do you want? the html or the javascript?
Jan 01 21:55:52 <twbbas> The html
Jan 01 21:56:06 <Tibfib> might be some prototype stuff
Jan 01 21:56:17 <twbbas> What's that?
Jan 01 21:56:35 <Tibfib> Ajax.Requst(url) doesn't give the site?
Jan 01 21:57:01 <Tibfib> request
Jan 01 21:57:28 <twbbas> That does give the website but when I try to parse through it and split it up I only get the javascript code.
Jan 01 21:57:35 <twbbas> It does however display the html
Jan 01 21:57:44 <twbbas> I just can't split up the html
Jan 01 22:04:08 <dawm_> hrm sometimes you can 'read into' rahul's tweet and think hes talking about webos, but i cannot confirm or deny its true heh
Jan 01 22:04:29 <dawm_> http://twitter.com/#!/rahulsood/status/21302246000033792
Jan 01 23:45:55 <SineOt> mugen-: ping?
Jan 01 23:46:08 <mugen-> what's up brother
Jan 01 23:46:11 <mugen-> happy new year :)
Jan 01 23:46:18 <SineOt> happy new year!
Jan 01 23:46:28 <SineOt> not much, waiting on Palm to actually push my beta app feed update :/
Jan 01 23:46:36 <mugen-> hehe
Jan 01 23:46:40 <mugen-> yay updates!
Jan 01 23:47:02 <SineOt> yeah, but needing to wait this long to get them out sucks :p
Jan 01 23:47:10 <SineOt> you want the IPK?
Jan 01 23:47:37 <mugen-> please! :D
Jan 01 23:47:41 <SineOt> It's got password/username support and the vibration is a toggle
Jan 01 23:51:59 <SineOt> actually let me fix this Pixi bug first
Jan 01 23:55:07 <mugen-> kk
Jan 01 23:59:11 <SineOt> Ugh, what the hell :( I thought the entire point of the Beta feed was to -avoid- the waits
Jan 01 23:59:38 <fahhem> they probably meant outside of the holiday seasons
Jan 01 23:59:45 <SineOt> I can't upload a fixed update until -after- the rejection for the last update goes through
Jan 01 23:59:54 <SineOt> Beta feed/web feed doesn't get reviewed though
Jan 02 00:00:30 <fahhem> so what are you waiting on? someone to push a button?
Jan 02 00:02:43 <SineOt> I guess? I'm not even sure.
Jan 02 00:03:12 <SineOt> I caught a bug with the update I submitted last night and requested rejection for it, and... Apparently that takes a long ass time.
Jan 02 00:03:24 <SineOt> But I can't upload the fixed update until after the rejection goes through.
Jan 02 00:05:07 <SineOt> So I waited uh... like 17 hours after submitting a Beta update, still hadn't gone through, requested rejection, now I'm waiting 2 hours for that to go through before I can submit the updated version again. P:
Jan 02 00:05:44 <SineOt> Lot of time for an app that doesn't need to get reviewed.
Jan 02 00:07:41 <SineOt> mugen- http://dl.dropbox.com/u/469264/com.ruddersquish.boxeeremotebeta_0.9.6_all.ipk
Jan 02 00:09:56 <mugen-> thanks! :)
Jan 02 00:10:09 <mugen-> where's the submission page for that stuff btw?
Jan 02 00:10:50 <mugen-> the beta feeds and whatnot
Jan 02 00:11:03 <SineOt> It's on the developer.palm.com page
Jan 02 00:11:24 <SineOt> When you first upload an app you can say what area you want it submitted to, beta, web, or catalog
Jan 02 00:11:46 <mugen-> ahhh k
Jan 02 00:13:29 <SineOt> let me know if you catch any bugs
Jan 02 00:13:38 <SineOt> I should probably put my website together now :6
Jan 02 00:15:14 <torchie> I like how everybody who uses an iphone is suddenly a "sheep"
Jan 02 00:15:48 <SineOt> anyone who uses any apple product ever has always been labeled a "sheep" :p
Jan 02 00:18:34 <torchie> tru
Jan 02 00:18:52 <torchie> omg u use apple clearly you dont do research
Jan 02 00:27:49 <SineOt> :Q
Jan 02 00:28:09 <SineOt> oh, mugen- let me know if the password support really slowed stuff down or not
Jan 02 00:28:14 <SineOt> I don't think it did, but... IDK
Jan 02 00:50:55 <mugen-> i'll load it up after dinner :)
Jan 02 00:53:42 <JenP> hi all
Jan 02 00:54:02 <SineOt> hey hey
Jan 02 00:54:42 <JenP> hi SineOt
Jan 02 00:57:01 <dohtem> hey hey hey!
Jan 02 00:57:41 <JenP> hi dohtem
Jan 02 00:57:51 <fahhem> hello
Jan 02 00:58:14 <JenP> lol hi fahhem
Jan 02 01:02:42 <SineOt> man Japan freaking LOVES otters D:
Jan 02 01:04:03 <dohtem> ?
Jan 02 01:04:16 <JenP> ?
Jan 02 01:04:18 <JenP> to eat?
Jan 02 01:04:38 <dohtem> lol
Jan 02 01:05:38 <Loudergood> do they put pancakes on their heads?
Jan 02 01:06:45 <SineOt> I don't really know what they do to their heads, ahaha D: http://kawausosu.com/assets_c/2010/10/Toba_Aquarium_002-2416.html
Jan 02 01:07:41 <SineOt> ahah http://kawausosu.com/assets_c/2010/05/008-2112.html
Jan 02 01:19:07 <mugen-> lol sine
Jan 02 01:19:13 <mugen-> they're so cute :D
Jan 02 02:45:15 <mugen-> D: http://goo.gl/0Iq2
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