**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jan 05 02:59:58 2011
Jan 05 03:05:38 <halfhalo> mmmmm
Jan 05 03:05:39 <halfhalo> free
Jan 05 03:05:42 <halfhalo> foood
Jan 05 03:06:13 <halfhalo> ohohohohoh freee crap
Jan 05 03:07:01 <halfhalo> like winds
Jan 05 03:07:36 <halfhalo> :p
Jan 05 03:08:08 <halfhalo> I never turn down free stuff
Jan 05 03:08:49 <bpadalino> free bags of dog poop ?
Jan 05 03:09:24 <halfhalo> free netbooks looks likme
Jan 05 03:10:37 <halfhalo> hmmm... phone down to 15 batt
Jan 05 03:24:38 * halfhalo cannot understand the person
Jan 05 03:27:20 <dohtem> hey can I make a quick update to my app's description as its waiting to be approved?
Jan 05 04:02:01 * DougReeder waves hello
Jan 05 04:12:29 <dohtem> hey DougReeder
Jan 05 04:13:49 * DougReeder smiles "didn't realize wIRC displays a banner if someone mentions you."
Jan 05 04:17:38 * DougReeder waves goodnight
Jan 05 04:52:09 <alexfner> hey hey hey
Jan 05 04:56:33 <haeffb> ho ho ho
Jan 05 04:56:39 <haeffb> oops, couple weeks too late.
Jan 05 05:01:48 <mugen-> lol
Jan 05 05:01:51 <mugen-> me too!
Jan 05 05:02:59 <dkirker> haeffb: I believe that you are supposed to be crying now. That is the only sound that I can associate with the baby New Year...
Jan 05 05:19:40 <mugen-> music if you're bored: http://goo.gl/6TrQK
Jan 05 05:20:41 <bpadalino> i've been listening to those pomplamoose covers on youtube .. i like them but my friends aren't fans
Jan 05 05:23:41 <mugen-> just noticed you said covers
Jan 05 05:24:17 <bpadalino> covers
Jan 05 05:25:08 <mugen-> yeah, i can't stand either of em... lol
Jan 05 05:25:19 <bpadalino> whoops
Jan 05 05:28:14 <mugen-> some of it is clever, it's just as about opposite of my style as can be :) they're brilliant muscians
Jan 05 05:28:18 <mugen-> musicians
Jan 05 05:35:14 <dohtem> what up?
Jan 05 05:36:46 <dkirker> a popcorn coated ceiling :D
Jan 05 05:39:31 <torchie> my dreams
Jan 05 05:39:32 <torchie> in
Jan 05 05:39:33 <torchie> smo
Jan 05 05:39:33 <torchie> ke
Jan 05 05:40:49 <dohtem> what up dkirker
Jan 05 05:40:58 <dohtem> wanna try my app out?
Jan 05 05:41:00 <dkirker> hi dohtem
Jan 05 05:41:05 <dkirker> what does it do?
Jan 05 05:41:13 <dohtem> Hacker News app
Jan 05 05:41:20 <dkirker> sure, I'll try it out
Jan 05 05:41:43 <dohtem> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6574940/com.almadencode.hackernews_0.1.6_all.ipk -- :)
Jan 05 05:41:54 <halfhalo> Mooo
Jan 05 05:42:53 <dohtem> halfhalo: you test it out too before your las vegas whoring
Jan 05 05:43:10 <halfhalo> No?
Jan 05 05:43:36 <dohtem> awww
Jan 05 05:45:37 <dohtem> US Top Gear is pretty impressive
Jan 05 05:45:43 <torchie> is it
Jan 05 05:46:43 <dohtem> it really feels like the BBC series but not trying too hard.
Jan 05 05:52:03 <Deihmos> i wonder if amazon will make a kindle version.
Jan 05 05:52:31 <Deihmos> can't believe windows already got it
Jan 05 05:53:11 <dohtem> Kindle app for webOS?
Jan 05 05:53:43 <Deihmos> amazon kindle. never heard of it?
Jan 05 05:54:33 <halfhalo> Ytexuwnvtrnikjfj
Jan 05 05:55:57 <torchie> whats a kindle
Jan 05 05:55:59 <torchie> this is nook country
Jan 05 05:56:36 <halfhalo> Kindle on nook... Win
Jan 05 05:56:44 <torchie> tis a work of art
Jan 05 05:56:54 <torchie> not that I read kindle or nook books but
Jan 05 05:57:05 <torchie> having the kindle app on a nook is always something to lol
Jan 05 05:57:17 <mugen-> dohtem, i'll pretend you didn't say that.
Jan 05 05:57:49 <torchie> what
Jan 05 05:59:13 <mugen-> about top gear
Jan 05 05:59:54 <dohtem> mugen-: you dont think so?
Jan 05 06:04:11 <torchie> all I know is top gear UK had reliant robins
Jan 05 06:04:39 <dohtem> and the stig
Jan 05 06:05:27 <halfhalo> Yup
Jan 05 06:05:40 <torchie> dunno what the stig is
Jan 05 06:05:51 <halfhalo> ....
Jan 05 06:05:53 <mugen-> method, nope :( the hosts are horrible...
Jan 05 06:08:31 <dohtem> mugen-: the come across as regular guys which I like
Jan 05 06:08:42 <dohtem> they just have to get into the role
Jan 05 06:08:47 <dohtem> roles*
Jan 05 06:11:44 <mugen-> they need to try and be less like the uk boys and more like themselves
Jan 05 06:11:56 <mugen-> now... i'll say. i haven't watched passed the second episode
Jan 05 06:23:30 <Roy-Pre101> rwhitby: Is it a known bug where the apps list in available packages switches to a combo order by name/date after viewing a package's details?
Jan 05 06:23:40 <Roy-Pre101> In preware, of course.
Jan 05 06:23:59 <rwhitby> Roy-Pre101: does it happen with the PreCentral feed disabled?
Jan 05 06:24:08 <Roy-Pre101> not sure.
Jan 05 06:24:14 <rwhitby> please test
Jan 05 06:24:57 <Roy-Pre101> Restarting now.
Jan 05 06:25:22 <Roy-Pre101> Hoped to snag the new Freetether but don't see it yet and saw the bug again so I thought I'd mention it.
Jan 05 06:27:53 <rwhitby> try now
Jan 05 06:29:00 <Roy-Pre101> The resorting of the feeds hasn't happened yet since I removed PC
Jan 05 06:31:13 <rwhitby> did you update feeds after disabling it
Jan 05 06:31:29 <Roy-Pre101> restarted app.
Jan 05 06:31:32 <rwhitby> BTW, it's "freeTether" (correct capitalisation)
Jan 05 06:31:43 <Roy-Pre101> not sure I did an update after i disabled it.
Jan 05 06:32:01 <destinal> rwhitby: how many people capitalize webos right?  :)
Jan 05 06:32:40 <rwhitby> destinal: well, I assume Roy-Pre101 is about to make a post about it on #webosroundup, so he should be informed before doing so ;)
Jan 05 06:32:43 <Roy-Pre101> rwhitby: so noted.
Jan 05 06:33:47 <Roy-Pre101> rwhitby: Hmm, that's an excellent idea, I guess.  I wasn't actually going to write one since I'm braindead.
Jan 05 06:34:23 <destinal> rwhitby: oh!  I forgot about the roundup
Jan 05 06:35:00 <destinal> rwhitby: hashtags in IRC, ewww. :P
Jan 05 06:35:42 <destinal> twitter is destroying the world in slow increments
Jan 05 06:36:35 <torchie> :D
Jan 05 06:36:52 <torchie> I'm mad hype
Jan 05 06:36:53 <torchie> network's not showing up for me
Jan 05 06:39:02 <mugen-> ...eh?
Jan 05 06:42:32 <Roy-Pre101> destinal: Sheesh, can't forget about that.
Jan 05 06:51:35 <torchienook> long live webos!
Jan 05 06:51:50 <torchienook> long live internals!
Jan 05 07:53:37 <mugen-> i want a raptor now... :(
Jan 05 07:53:45 <hotdp> like a airplane?
Jan 05 07:53:58 <mugen-> mmm if i had the cash yes
Jan 05 07:54:06 <mugen-> but i'm talking about the truck
Jan 05 07:54:10 <hotdp> ahh
Jan 05 07:54:18 <hotdp> did not know a truck with that name
Jan 05 07:54:31 <mugen-> http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.autospectator.com/cars/files/images/2010-Ford-F-150-SVT-Raptor-0002.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.autospectator.com/cars/models/2010-ford-f-150-svt-raptor&usg=__vhzcVxFIR5Lw14x0wygYdy8TA-M=&h=334&w=500&sz=39&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=UzJTU3mkLL9UeM:&tbnh=140&tbnw=231&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dford%2Braptor%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DX%26biw%3D1279%26bih%3D612%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=34
Jan 05 07:54:31 <mugen-> =2408&hovh=183&hovw=275&tx=165&ty=208&ei=0SIkTey1FIH6sAOLxtSPCg&oei=0SIkTey1FIH6sAOLxtSPCg&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=16&ved=1t:429,r:12,s:0
Jan 05 07:54:35 <mugen-> ahh
Jan 05 07:54:41 <mugen-> url shortner fail :(
Jan 05 07:54:47 <mugen-> http://goo.gl/C9dxr
Jan 05 07:55:00 <hotdp> ahh
Jan 05 07:55:09 <hotdp> We dont have that type of car in out country :D
Jan 05 07:56:16 <mugen-> :)
Jan 05 07:56:29 <mugen-> where you live dp?
Jan 05 07:57:38 <hotdp> my eninge has 3 cyl and is 1.2L TDI
Jan 05 07:57:43 <hotdp> Denmark
Jan 05 07:58:15 <mugen-> hehe... yeah, a raptor wouldn't fit on your roads :D
Jan 05 07:59:25 <hotdp> no :/(
Jan 05 07:59:33 <hotdp> But would like one for sure!
Jan 05 07:59:49 <hotdp> or just something with more then 6 cyl
Jan 05 07:59:50 <mugen-> 11" front 12" rear suspension travel
Jan 05 08:00:08 <mugen-> 6.2L V8 411hp
Jan 05 08:00:18 <mugen-> soooooooooo much fun in the dunes :D
Jan 05 08:01:35 <hotdp> :)
Jan 05 08:26:01 <hotdp> any idea when IE9 will be released?
Jan 05 08:43:21 <mugen-> dunno...
Jan 05 09:55:04 <b0bben_> morning all brave souls that can't sleep until feb 9 is upon us!
Jan 05 09:56:12 <fahhem> you saw the techcrunch article, huh?
Jan 05 09:56:41 <fahhem> i live in berkeley, so i'm gonna be doing some travel on the 9th across the bridge
Jan 05 10:16:06 <b0bben_> no, haven't seen the article
Jan 05 10:16:09 <b0bben_> url to that plz?
Jan 05 10:16:28 <fahhem> http://techcrunch.com/2011/01/04/hp-webos-event/
Jan 05 10:16:38 <fahhem> so you got an actual invitation?
Jan 05 10:17:44 <b0bben_> no way
Jan 05 10:17:47 <b0bben_> i wish i had
Jan 05 10:17:52 <b0bben_> + a plane ticket
Jan 05 10:17:56 <fahhem> how'd you find out about it?
Jan 05 10:17:58 <b0bben_> ;)
Jan 05 10:18:09 <b0bben_> about the event? it's all over teh internetz
Jan 05 10:18:33 <fahhem> ah, i guess i've only seen it in TC
Jan 05 10:18:55 <b0bben_> fahhem: follow some key ppl on twitter and you never have to look for stuff again!
Jan 05 10:19:06 <b0bben_> stuff comes to you
Jan 05 10:19:08 <b0bben_> mwahahaha
Jan 05 10:19:39 <fahhem> or have a google alert on "webos 2.0" :)
Jan 05 10:19:46 <b0bben_> yeah
Jan 05 10:19:47 <cxreg> hey, that's my birthday
Jan 05 10:19:51 <cxreg> i wonder if they'll let me go :)
Jan 05 10:20:04 <fahhem> if so, that's my birthday too O:-)
Jan 05 10:20:04 <b0bben_> cxreg: HP knew it!
Jan 05 10:20:17 <cxreg> heh
Jan 05 10:20:17 <b0bben_> hell it's everyones birthday on the 9th of feb!
Jan 05 10:20:24 <cxreg> party at my place
Jan 05 10:20:36 <b0bben_> oh man, such coding mojo, and i have to go to the doctor with the kid :/
Jan 05 10:20:48 <b0bben_> cxreg: i'm coming!
Jan 05 10:20:53 <fahhem> party at fort mason center!
Jan 05 10:21:17 <b0bben_> i remember the good times when we would gather around a project during apples event, back in the day when they live streamed it
Jan 05 10:21:20 <b0bben_> good times
Jan 05 10:21:33 <b0bben_> like the one in 1997 with bill gates on big screen
Jan 05 10:21:55 <b0bben_> i almost puked of all the tension in my stomach
Jan 05 10:22:07 <b0bben_> that's how it feels now!
Jan 05 10:22:22 <b0bben_> so HP, whatever you do: DONT BRING ON BILL G. ON STAGE!
Jan 05 10:25:02 <hotdp> :P
Jan 05 11:10:41 <zady> Sup!
Jan 05 11:20:33 <mugen-> bam
Jan 05 11:20:40 <mdogg_> good morning
Jan 05 11:21:07 <mdogg_> is it possible to keep an app listening for a shaking event when minimized or in dashboard mode?
Jan 05 11:21:16 <zady> Mornin' to you too :]
Jan 05 11:21:37 <zady> Interesting question.. not too sure on that matter.
Jan 05 11:22:15 <mugen-> in theory, sure... in practice, no idea...
Jan 05 11:28:40 <mdogg_> even with the listener in setup rather than activate i can't make it work
Jan 05 11:29:10 <mdogg_> is the accelerometer data only available when the scene is active?
Jan 05 11:38:37 <mdogg_> ahh: http://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=9178&start=0
Jan 05 11:39:54 <loadx> Hi all anyone in aus able to answer a few questions regarding the unlocked pre2?
Jan 05 11:40:15 <loadx> australia.. not austria, sorry.
Jan 05 11:41:27 <rwhitby-pre> which unlocked Pre2? US or EU version?
Jan 05 11:41:31 <loadx> US
Jan 05 11:42:04 <rwhitby-pre> It will work 2G on all carriers and 3G on Telstra Next-G
Jan 05 11:42:13 <loadx> No optus :( ?
Jan 05 11:42:29 <rwhitby-pre> if you want paid apps, you have to activate it in the US before shipping to here
Jan 05 11:42:44 <loadx> ahh thought as much, was just confirming
Jan 05 11:43:04 <rwhitby-pre> You need the EU version to get 3G on the other carriers that are not on 850 like Telstra.
Jan 05 11:43:09 <loadx> Do you know if HP would activate the phone for me prior to sending (dreaming?)
Jan 05 11:43:29 <rwhitby-pre> no
Jan 05 11:43:48 <loadx> bah.. such a perfectly dev platform but so crippled in many ways
Jan 05 11:44:00 <rwhitby-pre> find someone in the US to do it - you will need to ship it to the US first anyway
Jan 05 11:44:31 <loadx> I see you're from SA. Are you using an EU version of the phone?
Jan 05 11:44:34 <rwhitby-pre> crippled? it's the most open smartphone hardware around
Jan 05 11:44:46 <rwhitby-pre> I have both versions of the Pre 2
Jan 05 11:44:51 <loadx> not the hardware.. more around the limitations of geo-locking apps etc
Jan 05 11:45:28 <rwhitby-pre> Just activate it in the US, then there are no longer any problems
Jan 05 11:46:23 <loadx> yeah ill have a snoop around and see if i can find someone.
Jan 05 11:46:56 <loadx> has anyone done more digging into the activation to see if there is anywhere that can be patched etc?
Jan 05 11:47:48 <mdogg_> is it bound by the first-use app?
Jan 05 11:48:39 <rwhitby-pre> you cannot get around it with proxies or whatnot - it's based on sim card mcc and mnc and a cellular connection
Jan 05 11:49:21 <loadx> ouch
Jan 05 11:49:22 <mdogg_> which application calls it though?
Jan 05 11:49:27 <rwhitby-pre> Since HP will only ship to a US address, just arrange for the recipient to activate it before forwarding it.
Jan 05 11:50:42 <loadx> i was hoping telstra would of received it before the start of this year. Been playing in the emulator but its not the same
Jan 05 11:51:01 <loadx> guess ill bite the bullet and go with your suggestions.
Jan 05 11:51:26 <rwhitby-pre> There are people on PreCentral who will do it for you.
Jan 05 11:52:56 <loadx> Thanks Rod, i'll check it out
Jan 05 11:54:44 <loadx> looking forward to playing with preware :)
Jan 05 11:56:00 <rwhitby-pre> mdogg_: you get one and one only chance at first activation, so there's not a lot of scope for experimentation with patches
Jan 05 11:56:50 <loadx> yeah thats what i figured also. no-one willing :P
Jan 05 11:57:14 <mdogg_> a pithy point
Jan 05 11:57:38 <mdogg_> still, we can hope that HP open it up to everyone in february :)
Jan 05 11:58:13 <loadx> yeah i saw the notice today (late to the chase i know)... so im now wondering if i hold off till Feb
Jan 05 11:58:20 <rwhitby-pre> pithy?
Jan 05 11:58:43 <mdogg_> concise
Jan 05 11:59:09 <loadx> think we'll see a new form factor?
Jan 05 11:59:16 <mdogg_> a few I hope
Jan 05 11:59:20 <mdogg_> big - tablet
Jan 05 11:59:30 <mdogg_> small - world's smallest smartphone?
Jan 05 11:59:34 <loadx> yeah deffinately a tablet in there.
Jan 05 11:59:36 <rwhitby-pre> loadx: I'm not sure whether the next batch of phones will be unlocked, since they'll likely be on carriers in the US
Jan 05 11:59:44 <mdogg_> and hopefully somthing iphone sized
Jan 05 12:00:51 <loadx> hmm true true.. guess i should just suck it up and buy one :P
Jan 05 12:01:07 <loadx> its unlikely palm will move _that_ fast
Jan 05 12:02:04 <mdogg_> just wait until february, I can guarentee HPalm will have phones out 'in the coming months' after that
Jan 05 12:03:54 <dohtem> http://is.gd/k8VTS
Jan 05 12:27:58 <loadx> im out. peace. thanks for your help Rod, be seeing you on the forums
Jan 05 15:00:37 <CTLAdvance> Admob fill rates are up
Jan 05 15:00:52 <CTLAdvance> but on 150k requests it is still only ~20%
Jan 05 15:01:20 <CTLAdvance> better than my prev levels of ~10%
Jan 05 15:02:43 <hotdp> i have fill rate
Jan 05 15:02:48 <hotdp> 90
Jan 05 15:02:50 <hotdp> and 98
Jan 05 15:02:56 <CTLAdvance> on how many requests?
Jan 05 15:03:26 <hotdp> 12,110
Jan 05 15:03:32 <hotdp> so not so many ;)
Jan 05 15:03:39 <CTLAdvance> I mean, when I do like 5 requests only I have about 100%
Jan 05 15:03:53 <CTLAdvance> maybe I am polling them to fast
Jan 05 15:04:02 <hotdp> donno
Jan 05 15:04:04 <hotdp> dunno
Jan 05 15:08:32 <hotdp> welcome haeffb_pre
Jan 05 15:09:27 <haeffb_pre> hotdp \o/ !!!!!
Jan 05 15:09:55 <haeffb_pre> ...and...peter ?
Jan 05 15:10:03 <hotdp> :P
Jan 05 15:10:13 <haeffb_pre> good times
Jan 05 15:10:24 <haeffb_pre> having a good year so far?
Jan 05 15:10:32 <hotdp> very good times
Jan 05 15:10:35 <hotdp> yes, you?
Jan 05 15:14:54 <hotdp> bbl
Jan 05 15:44:49 <haeffb_pre> hotdp: yes, very good
Jan 05 15:45:08 <bhodder> Hello everyone
Jan 05 15:46:30 <hotdp> good to hear
Jan 05 18:45:07 <solix> is the preware/precentral feed perm. offline, or just broken?
Jan 05 18:46:06 <destinal> solix: I think just broken
Jan 05 18:46:52 <solix> hm ok thanks, will see if I can install FileMgr on it's own for now then :)
Jan 05 20:22:16 <destinal> torchie-nook: how to recalibrate the TS is on the wiki also, may help you
Jan 05 20:22:28 <destinal> torchie-nook: oops wrong chan
Jan 05 20:23:30 <torchie-nook> Lol
Jan 05 20:31:43 <halfhalo> Brrr
Jan 05 20:32:00 <halfhalo> Grrr
Jan 05 20:32:05 <torchienook> its cold
Jan 05 20:32:11 <torchienook> i need a sweater
Jan 05 20:32:28 <halfhalo> AT&T dead here
Jan 05 20:32:30 <halfhalo> Sad face
Jan 05 20:34:59 <halfhalo> Tether be sloooow
Jan 05 20:35:07 <torchienook> daww
Jan 05 20:44:37 <halfhalo> Ok, sprint is being hammered as well
Jan 05 20:45:23 <halfhalo> Only think working is irc seems like
Jan 05 20:45:48 <halfhalo> Or sprint is doing stuff to the connection... Always a possibility
Jan 05 20:45:51 <torchienook> hmm
Jan 05 20:46:03 <torchienook> maybe the carriers know about freetether
Jan 05 20:46:03 <dohtem> probably overloaded cell towers
Jan 05 20:46:27 <dohtem> it's common at SXSW
Jan 05 20:46:29 <torchienook> or the sheer impact of freetether is bringing down tthe nation
Jan 05 20:46:33 <torchienook> theres just
Jan 05 20:46:36 <torchienook> so many pres
Jan 05 20:46:42 <torchienook> also ces i guess
Jan 05 20:48:03 <halfhalo> Lol
Jan 05 20:49:23 <halfhalo> Hmmm
Jan 05 20:49:32 <halfhalo> Could also be sprint filtering stuff
Jan 05 20:49:34 <CTLAdvance> I wonder how long until carriers force palm to do something about free tether
Jan 05 20:49:39 <CTLAdvance> or just ignore their line up
Jan 05 20:49:53 <CTLAdvance> :/
Jan 05 20:49:54 <destinal> I doubt the impact of freetether will be much for carriers
Jan 05 20:50:22 <CTLAdvance> dont dont think there will be much impact either, but its more principal
Jan 05 20:50:23 <destinal> webos devices are still pretty uncommon and mobile hotspot worked before so a lot of people were already using something similar
Jan 05 20:50:48 <CTLAdvance> I am talking mainly sprint, att etc, not so much verizon
Jan 05 20:50:50 <destinal> CTLAdvance: also there's pdanet for android devices and iphones, etc
Jan 05 20:51:02 <dohtem> CTLAdvance: remember VZW gave away mobile hotspot.
Jan 05 20:51:05 <torchienook> do carriers freak out about. pdanet
Jan 05 20:51:13 <torchienook> daidg they. reagjlly
Jan 05 20:53:24 <dohtem> when your app is live, what should the 'status' say in My Apps?
Jan 05 20:53:27 <dohtem> submitted?
Jan 05 20:54:09 <CTLAdvance> x # of suckers bought your app?
Jan 05 20:54:30 <CTLAdvance> mine all say published
Jan 05 20:54:45 <torchie> whoa a bunch of webos peeps followed me last knight
Jan 05 20:55:39 <torchie> including a florida bro!
Jan 05 20:55:43 <torchie> I didn't know they had the internet in florida!
Jan 05 20:56:30 <dohtem> CTLAdvance: any of them beta or web only?
Jan 05 20:56:37 <Loudergood> I hear they just ran a tube down there
Jan 05 20:56:46 <CTLAdvance> yes
Jan 05 20:56:49 <CTLAdvance> web
Jan 05 20:56:53 <dohtem> ah, thanks
Jan 05 20:56:59 <CTLAdvance> however it took like 2 - 3 hours for web to show
Jan 05 20:57:05 <CTLAdvance> after it switched
Jan 05 20:57:19 <dohtem> I submitted last night.  I dont recall it taking this long last time.
Jan 05 21:10:00 <halfhalo> Holycrap 3G is back
Jan 05 21:10:27 <torchie> three ga speed
Jan 05 21:42:54 <rwhitby> CTLAdvance: BTW, Sprint can't force Palm to do something about freeTether, other than trying to stop it working on Sprint phones.  The Pre 2 is unlocked, and not under any carrier contract, so no carrier can control what goes on it.
Jan 05 22:18:41 <solix> how does the 'per call rejection/block' option work in the 'Advanced Conf. for System Preferences' by sconix work?  er; where do I set it?  the 'per call rejection' standalone app had a drop down.. can't find it in this version.. thanks if you can
Jan 05 22:20:04 <solix> or link to a wikiapps would be helpful? :) tia
Jan 05 22:20:46 <solix> ahhh! nvm just foundit
Jan 05 22:21:36 <solix> not in the EDIT, it's in the top drop down preferences... whew.. finally. ;)
Jan 06 00:03:51 <SineOt> Ahaha. :I
Jan 06 00:04:20 <SineOt> Took 5 days to get the update I requested rejection on through, and it got pushed anyways, even though I requested rejection to fix a massive bug. ;_;
Jan 06 00:05:32 <SineOt> These buttons are confusingly titled with what they actually do
Jan 06 00:05:49 <dohtem> call it a feature and relax :)
Jan 06 00:05:58 <halfhalo> lol
Jan 06 00:06:18 <SineOt> lol
Jan 06 00:06:33 <SineOt> the "we weren't sure if you actually wanted to reject it so we pushed the update anyways" feature!
Jan 06 00:06:42 <halfhalo> yup
Jan 06 00:06:55 * halfhalo is in moto line
Jan 06 00:07:28 <dohtem> this guy ircs from anywhere!
Jan 06 00:07:38 <halfhalo> yup
Jan 06 00:07:46 <SineOt> for not really starting until tomorrow all the cool CES stuff seems to have already happened :T
Jan 06 00:07:55 <halfhalo> mebe...
Jan 06 00:07:57 <dohtem> halfhalo: you gonna play with the Honeycomb tablet?
Jan 06 00:08:05 <halfhalo> mebe...
Jan 06 00:12:26 <SineOt> that might be pretty cool
Jan 06 00:13:20 * dohtem needs a cheap webhost
Jan 06 00:13:31 <SineOt> nearlyfreespeech.net? ;o
Jan 06 00:13:38 <dohtem> thats not dreamhost
Jan 06 00:13:41 <Loudergood> http://cheapwebhost.com/
Jan 06 00:14:00 <Loudergood> I can understand the not dreamhost thing
Jan 06 00:14:14 <Loudergood> those bastards probably still think I owe them $7000
Jan 06 00:14:20 <dohtem> wow
Jan 06 00:14:37 * SineOt hosts with www.nearlyfreespeech.net/ and paid like... 5 cents last month. :I
Jan 06 00:14:55 <dohtem> SineOt: how many pageviews are you getting?
Jan 06 00:15:08 <SineOt> not many at the moment to be entirely honest
Jan 06 00:15:09 <Loudergood> mirroring some downloads for my clan back in the day, and fileplanet decided to link them
Jan 06 00:15:34 <dohtem> oh, thats low
Jan 06 00:15:48 <dohtem> isnt fileplanet a file *hosting* site
Jan 06 00:17:32 <SineOt> yeah, but for a lot of stuff they just aggregate and mirror
Jan 06 00:19:07 <Loudergood> and then dreamhost didn't shut me off for two days, even though I had it setup to
Jan 06 00:19:55 <halfhalo> Woo wifi accesscode!
Jan 06 00:20:59 <SineOt> oh man, the Moto thing is in the Venetian? That's such a nice hotel
Jan 06 00:21:21 <halfhalo> It's 20 min late
Jan 06 00:21:46 * dohtem has never been to Vegas
Jan 06 00:21:49 <dohtem> :(
Jan 06 00:22:26 <halfhalo> Moto gave out wifi access codes though which is win
Jan 06 00:31:29 <halfhalo> Atrix... Fingerprint reader...
Jan 06 00:32:26 <halfhalo> Oh crap....
Jan 06 00:32:37 <halfhalo> It's good
Jan 06 00:32:46 <dohtem> wait, its got biometrics?
Jan 06 00:33:02 <halfhalo> Yeah..
Jan 06 00:33:07 <dohtem> for security?
Jan 06 00:33:13 <halfhalo> Yeah....
Jan 06 00:33:15 <halfhalo> Crap
Jan 06 00:33:20 <halfhalo> It's really good
Jan 06 00:33:38 <dohtem> 2 year contracts suck.
Jan 06 00:34:25 <SineOt> Yeah, but the Atrix has 1GB of RAM and you can dock it and turn it into a netbook
Jan 06 00:34:33 <halfhalo> Oh crapohcrapohcrap
Jan 06 00:34:35 <dohtem> I read that part
Jan 06 00:34:38 <halfhalo> Being demoed now
Jan 06 00:34:55 <halfhalo> Dual core as well
Jan 06 00:34:58 <dohtem> but the fingerprint reader.... I'm impressed
Jan 06 00:36:25 <halfhalo> Fullscreen angry birds
Jan 06 00:37:31 <halfhalo> Laptop dock
Jan 06 00:38:21 <halfhalo> Waaaaant
Jan 06 00:39:51 <destinal> halfhalo: nook color is a much cheaper way to play angry birds on a large screen....
Jan 06 00:40:32 <halfhalo> Not on a 55" display while using firefox at the same time
Jan 06 00:40:47 <rwhitby> 55 inches?
Jan 06 00:41:08 <halfhalo> It docks and launches an embedded Linux distro
Jan 06 00:41:17 <halfhalo> Laptop dock as well
Jan 06 00:43:35 <halfhalo> Cliq2
Jan 06 00:43:48 <destinal> halfhalo: wait, there will be another linux besides android on Atrix?
Jan 06 00:44:01 <halfhalo> Yup
Jan 06 00:45:00 <destinal> didn't palm have a similar laptop sized dock planned, maybe even patented?
Jan 06 00:45:06 <halfhalo> Looked like metacity with docky
Jan 06 00:45:22 <halfhalo> Sorta
Jan 06 00:45:31 <halfhalo> That was a separate device
Jan 06 00:45:43 <halfhalo> The phone does everything with this
Jan 06 00:45:59 <halfhalo> Save for a battery in the laptop dock
Jan 06 00:46:30 <SineOt> man this is an awesome phone
Jan 06 00:47:09 <halfhalo> Next product
Jan 06 00:47:22 <halfhalo> I really want to play with the atrix
Jan 06 00:47:25 <halfhalo> New droit
Jan 06 00:48:50 <halfhalo> Droid bionic
Jan 06 00:49:00 <halfhalo> Loud video is loud
Jan 06 00:50:25 <halfhalo> Last product
Jan 06 00:50:35 <halfhalo> Honeycomb
Jan 06 00:50:40 <halfhalo> Vzw
Jan 06 00:51:06 <dohtem> we should have halfhalo live irc the HP event in Feb.
Jan 06 00:51:08 <dohtem> :)
Jan 06 00:51:37 <Loudergood> yes I think so
Jan 06 00:51:39 <halfhalo> 16:10!!!!!!
Jan 06 00:51:46 <halfhalo> Hd!
Jan 06 00:51:48 <Loudergood> lol
Jan 06 00:52:02 <halfhalo> Xoom
Jan 06 00:52:05 <Loudergood> inches?
Jan 06 00:52:14 <halfhalo> Big
Jan 06 00:52:26 <dohtem> thats what she said!
Jan 06 00:52:34 <halfhalo> Upgradable to 4g
Jan 06 00:52:40 <halfhalo> Dual core
Jan 06 00:52:47 <halfhalo> 1280x800
Jan 06 00:53:12 <halfhalo> Looks snazzy
Jan 06 00:53:29 <dohtem> weight?
Jan 06 00:53:31 <halfhalo> It needs rhedesktop thing
Jan 06 00:53:36 <halfhalo> No idea yet
Jan 06 00:53:50 <halfhalo> Awwe, not ready yet
Jan 06 00:54:10 <dohtem> http://www.engadget.com/photos/motorola-xoom-official-press-pics-at-ces-2011/
Jan 06 00:55:08 <Loudergood> haha the standard render "we dont know what the stand will look like, just put a lump of carbon fiber there"
Jan 06 00:57:29 <halfhalo> Q1 for 3G ver
Jan 06 00:57:35 <dohtem> and I thought CES started tomorrow
Jan 06 00:58:22 <SineOt> CES does start tomorrow :p
Jan 06 00:59:05 <dohtem> WHATS THIS MADNESS?!
Jan 06 01:00:03 <Loudergood> THIS IS VEGAS!!
Jan 06 01:00:31 <Loudergood> those companies are all racing to be the first one forgotton
Jan 06 01:01:53 <SineOt> yeah basically
Jan 06 01:02:11 <SineOt> I think they're doing all the announcements now and then just letting people mill and mingle when it's actually going on
Jan 06 01:03:20 <dohtem> it's certainly a good day for Android.
Jan 06 01:07:45 <halfhalo> yup
Jan 06 01:07:52 <halfhalo> its press day
Jan 06 01:07:57 <halfhalo> uggg
Jan 06 01:08:03 <halfhalo> bag full
Jan 06 01:08:08 <SineOt> I totally forgot that the Mac App Store opens tomorrow
Jan 06 01:09:21 <dohtem> I dunno how that will work
Jan 06 01:09:49 <dohtem> i mean, Apple now gets a cut of what devs have been selling for years
Jan 06 01:10:40 <SineOt> Yeah, but it's not like the iOS market where everything (sans Jailbreak) has to go through Apple
Jan 06 01:11:16 <SineOt> I think it'll mostly just function as a single point to find everything
Jan 06 01:11:24 <SineOt> because right now it's a pain in the ass to try to find a lot of apps
Jan 06 01:11:35 <dohtem> you use a Mac?
Jan 06 01:12:03 * mugen- prays whatever update happens it doesn't nix his hackintosh :\
Jan 06 01:12:09 <SineOt> yeah
Jan 06 01:12:34 <SineOt> mugen-: it's just an update to 10.6.6 so I'm sure it won't do much
Jan 06 01:13:01 <mugen-> here's hoping...
Jan 06 01:13:12 <mugen-> how's everyone doing tonight?
Jan 06 01:14:07 <mugen-> btw, otter... boxee remote is all i use now for my setup :)
Jan 06 01:14:31 <mugen-> i have a pre+ dedicated to my htpc's ... so you should mash up your pro version :D
Jan 06 01:14:34 <SineOt> I'm alright
Jan 06 01:14:45 <SineOt> heh yeah
Jan 06 01:14:51 <SineOt> I need to work on it more
Jan 06 01:15:46 <mugen-> method, so i watched ep. 3-7 last night of us TG... and i'll give you that it's getting better
Jan 06 01:15:57 <dohtem> it's dohtem :)
Jan 06 01:16:14 <dohtem> was that the used car saleman one?
Jan 06 01:16:17 <Loudergood> yeah I really liked 7
Jan 06 01:16:26 <mugen-> sry :P i'm dyslexic so it hurts trying to type dohtem
Jan 06 01:16:39 <mugen-> i watched basically the entire series...
Jan 06 01:16:41 <Loudergood> autocomplete ;)
Jan 06 01:16:42 <dohtem> heh, just being silly.  I dont mind.
Jan 06 01:17:00 <mugen-> i know it takes the mystery out of it all ;)
Jan 06 01:17:05 <SineOt> yeah that's what autocomplete is for
Jan 06 01:17:17 <halfhalo> 2 hours till gigabyte event
Jan 06 01:17:36 <mugen-> half, you have a photostream up?
Jan 06 01:17:36 <dohtem> halfhalo: CES overload, yet?
Jan 06 01:17:44 <halfhalo> Nope
Jan 06 01:17:54 <halfhalo> Since it like... Hasn't started
Jan 06 01:18:01 <halfhalo> But break time now
Jan 06 01:18:14 <mugen-> i just meant in general
Jan 06 01:18:24 <mugen-> you been through the automotive section?
Jan 06 01:18:50 <mugen-> i've heard rumors of android powered head units... wondering if they made a show at all
Jan 06 01:18:58 <mugen-> think parrot did one implementation or something
Jan 06 01:19:00 <halfhalo> Yup
Jan 06 01:19:09 <halfhalo> Parrot and pioneer have em
Jan 06 01:19:22 <mugen-> oooo pioneer too?
Jan 06 01:19:26 * mugen- googles
Jan 06 01:19:39 <halfhalo> Supposedly
Jan 06 01:19:45 <halfhalo> Didn't see that one
Jan 06 01:19:52 <halfhalo> Only the parrot one
Jan 06 01:20:39 <dohtem> mugen-:  turns out, Tim Allen is really a car guy.
Jan 06 01:20:47 <halfhalo> Yup
Jan 06 01:20:49 <mugen-> dohtem, lol
Jan 06 01:21:05 <mugen-> yeah... and kind of an ass in his old age :D
Jan 06 01:21:13 <dohtem> I thought it was just his character on Home Improvement
Jan 06 01:21:49 <mugen-> naw... i can't say i'm surprised by it.
Jan 06 01:22:11 <mugen-> whatever episode they had with the roadmaster and the concept sketch... that sketch looked badass
Jan 06 01:22:18 <mugen-> _i_ would pimp that if they made it
Jan 06 01:25:26 <mugen-> ...god it's been almost two weeks since i ordered a shit ton of books from b&n and they're still not here :(
Jan 06 01:25:42 <mugen-> got the o'reilly webOS book new for $2.99 :D
Jan 06 01:30:40 <Loudergood> that's one thing I don't miss with ebooks
Jan 06 01:31:02 <Loudergood> of course I went to a borders to look for a book the other day and it wasn't there
Jan 06 01:31:39 <dohtem> http://i.imgur.com/NPdnw.jpg - this never gets old
Jan 06 01:32:17 <Loudergood> so awesome
Jan 06 01:34:31 <mugen-> lol
Jan 06 01:42:03 <halfhalo> Lulz
Jan 06 01:42:16 <halfhalo> I'm all blurry on the engadget moto photo
Jan 06 01:49:37 <dohtem> whats the best way to create/manage changelogs?
Jan 06 01:49:54 * dohtem is just trying to remember and typing them in a text file
Jan 06 02:08:20 <destinal> mugen-: the o'reilly webos book is awful
Jan 06 02:08:35 <halfhalo> Guy from toms hardware
Jan 06 02:08:37 <mugen-> ugh... really?
Jan 06 02:08:47 <halfhalo> Yeah it is
Jan 06 02:08:55 <mugen-> the other webos book i picked up was the practical projects
Jan 06 02:09:03 <destinal> mugen-: it's got some useful info in it, for $3 it may be worth it
Jan 06 02:09:22 <destinal> but it was obviously released before it was ready
Jan 06 02:09:22 <mugen-> only paid $5 for both of em... so i guess it's not a bad loss :\
Jan 06 02:09:30 <mugen-> gotcha
Jan 06 02:09:38 <dawm_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzTZKKrI1kQ&feature=player_embedded
Jan 06 02:09:44 <dawm_> i love how that was shot
Jan 06 02:09:46 <mugen-> so basically there's no good webOS books?
Jan 06 02:09:48 <dawm_> almost looks real at some points
Jan 06 02:10:35 <destinal> mugen-: just study anything written by oil :)
Jan 06 02:10:42 <destinal> who needs books
Jan 06 02:11:00 <mugen-> ...but oil breaks things!
Jan 06 02:11:05 * mugen- glances over at oil
Jan 06 02:11:13 <mugen-> i like books :)
Jan 06 02:11:54 <mugen-> i have a og nook full of my bibles... but i like tangible reading too, especially when i'm a greenfoot just learning
Jan 06 02:12:17 * destinal has nook 3g too
Jan 06 02:13:03 <mugen-> dawm, i love the drift-in parking at like 2:35
Jan 06 02:14:08 <dawm_> yeh
Jan 06 02:14:15 <dawm_> camera angles are insane at times
Jan 06 02:14:29 <dawm_> makes em look real.. almost
Jan 06 02:14:49 <dawm_> finally have my house to myself.. mom and grandma finally left to go back to NC..
Jan 06 02:16:16 <destinal> dawm_: cool RC cars, terrible music
Jan 06 02:16:26 <dawm_> indeed
Jan 06 02:17:27 <mugen-> wholly shot... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yI5xLNeNDO8&feature=related
Jan 06 02:17:38 <mugen-> 134mph rc car D:
Jan 06 02:18:16 <mugen-> sorry... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXpVTOH9e4M&feature=related
Jan 06 02:18:19 <mugen-> 161mph
Jan 06 02:18:39 <mugen-> damnit dawm... now i'm wasting time on rc videos :(
Jan 06 02:19:52 <mugen-> oh MAN i want one - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T01iqDN1wYQ&feature=related
Jan 06 02:25:24 <mugen-> those mini jet setups are 2k to 5.5k
Jan 06 02:25:27 <mugen-> good lord
Jan 06 02:27:35 <halfhalo> This guy in line needs to shut the he'll up
Jan 06 02:27:49 <mugen-> ??
Jan 06 02:28:22 <halfhalo> For the gigabyte press conference
Jan 06 02:28:25 <destinal> lol re autocorrections
Jan 06 02:28:28 <dohtem> "No officer, halfhalo never seemed homicidal.  We never thought he'd go nuts"
Jan 06 02:28:53 <dohtem> halfhalo: are they announcing new mobos?
Jan 06 02:28:56 <destinal> my pre always corrects "ill" with I'll
Jan 06 02:28:57 <halfhalo> Yeah
Jan 06 02:29:15 <mugen-> sandy bridges i assume?
Jan 06 02:29:28 <halfhalo> Mebe
Jan 06 02:29:35 <mugen-> maybe some nice amd fusion apu boards?
Jan 06 02:29:40 <dohtem> destinal: what about just "il"?
Jan 06 02:29:41 <halfhalo> I have the press kit already
Jan 06 02:31:26 <halfhalo> People need to not show up so I get free stuff
Jan 06 02:31:46 <mugen-> heh
Jan 06 02:32:07 <destinal> dohtem: I don't have my pre set for italian so it doesn't correct with "il"
Jan 06 02:55:09 <dohtem> is it ok to use the 'send' icon for a button that will launch the email app?
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