**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jan 26 02:59:57 2011 Jan 26 03:04:00 Huh... Cool! Trying out some new button designs. http://cl.ly/1L2f461Y01252o3A3P2M Jan 26 03:06:01 they look cool Jan 26 03:21:41 I never really thought it'd make much difference, but man, using CSS sprites saves a LOT of space. Jan 26 03:21:58 Button images went from about... 120kb total to 41kb. Jan 26 03:22:32 79kb doesn't seem like much, but that's 79kb you won't have to wait to download over the air. :B Jan 26 03:51:45 lol @ app review "The game won't install and I can't erase it off my phone" Jan 26 03:51:49 ... Jan 26 03:54:19 Oh, I have that problem all of the time... **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jan 26 04:23:39 2011 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jan 26 06:04:15 2011 Jan 26 06:17:41 Does anyone know where the Palm Emulator app stores its list of emulators? Jan 26 06:19:40 sadly, no Jan 26 06:24:34 Roy-Pre101: on Win7, its iin C:\Users\{username}\.VirtualBox\HardDisks Jan 26 06:25:30 That's just all the virtual machines, I believe. Not the ones the Palm Emulator app displays. Jan 26 06:26:16 oh, you want to be able to edit the list to show more virtual machines on startup?' Jan 26 06:26:23 Yes. Jan 26 06:27:22 No idea Jan 26 06:27:27 let me poke around for a bit Jan 26 06:37:16 hello Jan 26 06:42:12 deactivate runs when you do swapscene right? Jan 26 06:43:33 I have this code of "Mojo.Event.stopListening(this.controller.document, Mojo.Event.flick, this.flickHandler);" that runs on deactivate however when I return to the scene the flick event seems to compound each time I go to it Jan 26 06:44:02 so one flick becomes two, and then if you leave and comeback it becomes 3 etc... Jan 26 06:44:12 are you feeding the EXACT same code to stopListening as you are to the listen? Jan 26 06:45:05 Mojo.Event.listen(this.controller.document, Mojo.Event.flick, this.flickHandler.bind(this)); Jan 26 06:45:11 and also, if your popping a scene, it might work better to put it into cleanup, and not deactivate Jan 26 06:45:26 the only thing missing is the bind but i don't think that is needed Jan 26 06:45:37 I think it does Jan 26 06:45:45 I just feed it the exact same code to be safe :p Jan 26 06:46:37 ok I updated it and it still does the same thing Jan 26 06:46:47 that still won't work Jan 26 06:46:48 let me try adding it to clean up too Jan 26 06:46:56 you need to do it like this: Jan 26 06:47:16 this.flickHandler = this.flickHandler.bind(this); Jan 26 06:47:31 and then use this.flickHandler as the third parm to listen/stopListening Jan 26 06:47:47 cool, thanks Jan 26 06:49:54 sugardave are you on the Early Access aka would I be able to ask you a question on something that is still under NDA Jan 26 06:50:16 in a PM of course Jan 26 07:48:08 morning Jan 26 07:49:58 morning swisstomcat Jan 26 07:50:07 i am following you rant against adora :) Jan 26 07:50:16 I am with you! Jan 26 07:50:21 yeah, it's about time to let them know! Jan 26 07:50:24 they forget us eu people all the time Jan 26 07:50:38 to wash their heads so to speak Jan 26 07:50:50 like at devday where i got a us pre2 and she nearly go angry when i asked for a eu version Jan 26 07:51:04 (not adora) Jan 26 07:51:11 yeah Jan 26 07:51:19 looking forward to MWC Jan 26 07:51:27 to see who's attending Jan 26 07:51:29 I hope its different but i think not Jan 26 07:53:08 i'll make sure to talk to the people there Jan 26 07:53:16 beat some sense into them :) Jan 26 07:54:52 Yer Jan 26 07:55:01 they really don't look outside USA Jan 26 07:55:17 They need some peoeple to be hired here Jan 26 07:55:20 (me and you) :P Jan 26 07:56:17 that would be a start Jan 26 07:56:50 like when they sold the pre 2 Jan 26 07:57:05 and the app catalog was empty on featured Jan 26 07:57:19 it's still that way on my pre2 Jan 26 07:57:25 lol Jan 26 07:57:27 see! Jan 26 07:57:29 WTF Jan 26 07:57:46 doesn't seem important to them .. who knows Jan 26 07:57:55 Yer many things arent Jan 26 07:58:06 i am still waiting on my free pre plus dev phone Jan 26 07:58:18 i think it is nealry 4 month ago i got a go? Jan 26 07:59:07 lol Jan 26 07:59:12 sorry Jan 26 07:59:20 that sucks Jan 26 07:59:42 i am pissed Jan 26 07:59:53 i have like 15 emails to the person Jan 26 08:00:07 he keeps saying "i will investigate" Jan 26 08:00:43 In time i get the Pre Plus there us no reason to have it because its so old no one uses it anymore Jan 26 08:00:46 maybe its time to ping someone else Jan 26 08:01:03 Who should i insert in *else* Jan 26 08:01:22 idk, lisa? Jan 26 08:01:34 dunno? Jan 26 08:01:35 she is "developer relations" Jan 26 08:02:02 I only have this adam man and chuq email Jan 26 08:02:35 lisa is who my boss had to talk to before we got ours Jan 26 08:02:54 lisa.brewster@palm.com? Jan 26 08:03:11 i don't know what the email is, i could find out tomorrow Jan 26 08:03:37 oil: is that is or a guess? Jan 26 08:03:43 thats it Jan 26 08:03:47 thanks alot Jan 26 08:03:50 i give it a go Jan 26 08:03:56 * oil actually has her business card right here, lol Jan 26 08:04:00 from devdays Jan 26 08:04:03 ah Jan 26 08:04:04 guest__ did you get a pre plus? Jan 26 08:04:12 yeah Jan 26 08:04:15 the card has a pre2 on it open to a lisa brewster "contact" page Jan 26 08:04:25 lol Jan 26 08:05:46 hey do either of you know how I can change the viewmenu label text based on an event Jan 26 08:06:41 hotdp: http://i56.tinypic.com/27x1ijt.jpg Jan 26 08:06:45 kind of like how the in calendar it changes the text based on what month you are in Jan 26 08:07:17 lol Jan 26 08:08:33 its cool Jan 26 08:08:35 as hell Jan 26 08:08:54 she said she needed to get special approval and what not to get her business cards like that Jan 26 08:11:22 Hi , do you know where the emails accounts config (pop smtp etc..) are stored in webos ? Jan 26 08:14:52 no clue jmd Jan 26 08:15:27 jmd what do you need the information for? Jan 26 08:15:46 to check something inside the config Jan 26 08:16:32 i dont think its any config Jan 26 08:16:43 i think its in some kind of db Jan 26 08:16:56 but maybe you should ask in internals Jan 26 08:17:12 but if you would tell what "something" is, there might be another way to get the information Jan 26 08:18:55 simply to list all the parameters attached to one accounts (not only the visible ones) Jan 26 08:19:54 i will play with grep and find on db files Jan 26 08:20:19 Impostah should be able to look at datbases belonging to different applications Jan 26 08:20:44 i've my pre since one week and i'm completly new in webos Jan 26 08:24:03 ah, you should install Preware and get familiar with the webos-internals offerings Jan 26 08:25:41 thanks bpadalino, another question there is a way to disable completly the data and keep only voice and sms services in webos ? Jan 26 08:26:05 yeah under the phone menu there should be an option to turn off data completely Jan 26 08:29:28 no directly in webos 2 , but i think that under APN and MMS manual config , i can enter any wrong service to prevent any real data connection to my provider Jan 26 08:31:06 you can just turn it OFF jmd Jan 26 08:31:13 there is a data selection Jan 26 08:32:36 data selection provide me 3 choices : 2G 3G or Auto Jan 26 08:33:15 oh i see it now !!!!!!! Jan 26 08:33:44 there is an option to disable / enable data Jan 26 08:33:49 thanks :) Jan 26 08:36:16 yes :) Jan 26 08:38:19 this is better than android , the option is included in webos directly in the config Jan 26 08:38:54 you are damn right it is ;) Jan 26 08:38:59 where are you from? Jan 26 08:39:08 france Jan 26 08:39:59 rehi Jan 26 08:44:33 another question more related to the physical security of the phone , do you know if i can ask the phone to request a password before using another sim ? Jan 26 08:45:10 hmm i don't think i understand? Jan 26 08:47:24 hum in case of stolen phone , i could prevent the use of my sim but i could not prevent the use of my PRE Jan 26 08:48:17 You can se password on it? Jan 26 08:48:30 And you can disaple the phone remotly? Jan 26 09:12:03 does anyone know where I can find a list of the palm icons? Jan 26 09:12:16 do you have the sdk installed? Jan 26 09:12:27 yeah Jan 26 09:12:35 they're in there Jan 26 09:15:01 thanks Jan 26 09:15:39 would you happen to know how to change one of the view menu's text Jan 26 09:16:02 dynamically that is so if a user changes something the header matches appropriately Jan 26 09:16:16 but in this case the header is also a view menu button Jan 26 09:17:46 It is possible i think, but i have never used it Jan 26 11:20:46 hi there, I am trying to read some xml from a server (btw: Works fine in Chrome when index.html is on the server as well). Jan 26 11:20:54 var xmlhttp = new window.XMLHttpRequest(); Jan 26 11:20:56 xmlhttp.open("GET", "http://domino./test/my.xml", false); Jan 26 11:20:58 xmlhttp.send(null); Jan 26 11:21:00 var xml_dokument = xmlhttp.responseXML.documentElement; Jan 26 11:21:22 console prints: Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'documentElement' of null Jan 26 11:22:23 what am I doing wrong here ? Jan 26 11:22:50 helping person get's a free beer, pickup @ my home ;-) Jan 26 11:24:35 perhaps the lack of a .com? Jan 26 11:24:38 lol Jan 26 11:25:02 you mean: in the server name ? Jan 26 11:25:09 that's fine, its intranet Jan 26 11:25:25 can see the Palm emulator requesting the my.xml in the log Jan 26 11:25:59 *shrug* you got me then Jan 26 11:26:06 no beer for you :-) Jan 26 11:44:07 do you get any response at all? Jan 26 11:46:25 basically just the error message, but I am not trying to get any more out of it for the moment, but I can see that the program has requested the my.xml from my web server Jan 26 11:47:59 can you log the responsetext? Jan 26 11:48:19 um Jan 26 11:48:22 i see something else Jan 26 11:48:37 why not use prototype's ajax stuff? Jan 26 11:49:24 I guess, that's because I am new to Javascript ... Jan 26 11:49:31 I will google that Jan 26 11:50:23 but I would still be interested to learn what I am doing wrong here... Jan 26 11:51:17 var request = new Ajax.Request(url,{ Jan 26 11:51:27 this should get you started Jan 26 11:51:49 ok, will try that after the lunch break Jan 26 11:52:12 there's stuff on webos101.com Jan 26 11:52:17 (examples) Jan 26 13:12:15 So.. is it so, that in the US it's impossible to get a mobile plan without a contract & phone? Jan 26 13:12:29 no Jan 26 13:12:33 it just costs 10x as much Jan 26 13:13:36 its just like here teemu_ Jan 26 13:13:44 Crazy Jan 26 13:13:47 but americans don't like to pay full price for a phone Jan 26 13:18:22 here you can just buy a prepaid sim-card without a phone Jan 26 13:19:50 yer also here Jan 26 13:20:00 but its like the us people dont like to pay full price Jan 26 13:20:07 they like to "lease" the phone for a small amount Jan 26 13:22:22 Amazing that there's no carrier without these stupid 2yr contract / only this crappy phone deals Jan 26 13:37:32 So ppl really get new phones when they change providers? That sounds bit dumb to me. Jan 26 13:39:55 My head is about to explode because of this Jan 26 14:08:31 teemu_: that sounds painful, so I won't join you in spite of agreeing :p Jan 26 14:22:57 hah! just for the record... I found the problem Jan 26 14:23:25 xmlhttp.open("GET", "http://domino./test/my.xml", false); may NEVER be false Jan 26 15:33:20 * halfhalo is tired Jan 26 15:36:30 why is it that every building herekills my signal Jan 26 15:37:18 halfhalo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_cage Jan 26 15:37:33 those are fun Jan 26 15:42:52 lalalalala...... Jan 26 15:43:21 halfhalo run a coax out a window... expose the appropriate wavelength inside and out, and you'll have a passive repeater. Make sure to ground the shield Jan 26 15:44:33 that's a lot of effort for one class.... Jan 26 15:45:39 but tempting nonetheless Jan 26 15:47:29 uggg... can bared keep my eyes open Jan 26 16:25:17 HI CHUQI Jan 26 16:25:40 'morning #webos, morning chuqui Jan 26 16:25:50 good afternoon Jan 26 16:26:34 morning1 Jan 26 16:28:49 morning chuqui Jan 26 16:29:06 morning! Jan 26 16:30:41 what's up in palm land? Jan 26 16:30:42 chug-dohh Jan 26 16:30:44 dogg even Jan 26 16:31:56 Bollywood awesomeness! - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svOlz2ei4Yk Jan 26 16:36:45 irst irc i've ever been too that people post stuff about bollywood :D Jan 26 16:36:52 first* Jan 26 16:38:25 hello! Jan 26 16:39:15 I'm working on developing a mobile web application. We're making great use of the local content storage on most other devices. However, the 1MB size limit is a big problem for us. Any tests I have seen trying to skirt this limit have resulted in nasty, nasty bugs. Jan 26 16:39:52 Would it be easier for us to encapsulate this mobile web app within an actual webOS application? Would that enable us to locally store more than 1MB of content? Jan 26 16:40:04 we don't want it on the store, it's an enterprise thing Jan 26 16:40:38 ? Jan 26 16:40:46 use an external sqlite instead Jan 26 16:40:49 HTML5 local content storage Jan 26 16:40:55 HTML5 local database storage? Jan 26 16:41:01 name = 'ext:name_of_db' Jan 26 16:41:01 create a json file and put it into the internal drive Jan 26 16:41:09 SEXY that is exactly what I wanted to hear Jan 26 16:41:11 have my children? Jan 26 16:44:47 Would you happen to have any other golden nuggets for me? Jan 26 16:46:14 bbl Jan 26 18:48:46 oil: you there? Jan 26 19:54:26 .... Jan 26 19:54:39 don't suppose anyone has palm's tax number handy? O:) Jan 26 19:55:00 it's supposed to be on the 1099 that i need to file, but don't have that yet either -.- Jan 26 19:57:30 well...they do have another week or so Jan 26 19:57:44 still waiting for stuff for my gf Jan 26 20:10:16 well i don't have another week, it's basically due already although i have until the 28th. Jan 26 20:10:32 i pinged chuq/lisa, hopefully they'll get back to me :/. was hoping one of y'all would have it handy from previous things. Jan 26 20:35:50 Time for my daily "Is it 2/9 yet?" Jan 26 20:39:09 Exactly 2 weeks. Jan 26 20:39:51 Booooooooooo Jan 26 20:47:01 I've got a usability question. I'm using the forward swipe gesture to jump to the next set of results. This is acceptable, right? Jan 26 20:48:09 you should tell your users about it Jan 26 20:48:51 dohtem: Do you have the capability to perform a usability session with a few users? Jan 26 20:49:10 maybe create a special version of the app and send it to some people? Jan 26 20:50:51 @palm: in the app portal, when uploading a new app package, please write the name of the application somewhere during app update Jan 26 20:51:14 From time to time I'm unsure if I just update the correct app Jan 26 20:52:06 hey guys Jan 26 20:52:11 hi Jan 26 20:52:17 this.controller.get('webview').mojo.setEnableJavaScript(true); Jan 26 20:52:18 hi nyceane Jan 26 20:52:20 what am i doing wrong? Jan 26 20:52:24 this doesn't reallyw rok Jan 26 20:52:44 I am noticing that problem too. blockPopUps does not seem to work. Jan 26 20:53:04 no, but i m trying to run some jquery code inside webview Jan 26 20:53:05 =) Jan 26 20:53:09 i mean =( Jan 26 20:53:49 hmm Jan 26 20:53:56 dkirker: There's also a foward button on the screen. Even if the user never figures out the forward swipe in my app, nothing is lost Jan 26 20:54:02 MetaView ^ Jan 26 20:54:08 yes? Jan 26 20:54:17 dohtem: That is good. I suppose. Probably good to keep the button. Jan 26 20:54:22 I go and write an auto-installer over wifi Jan 26 20:54:44 anbyody have any idea? Jan 26 20:54:45 =( Jan 26 20:54:55 the usb-cable bothers me Jan 26 21:00:34 sugardave Jan 26 21:00:38 you seem to answer about this before Jan 26 21:06:13 MetaView, any idea? you are pretty good with webos Jan 26 21:07:03 nyceane: I'll let you know if I bump into any reasons why those set* commands aren't working for me. I have been using the popup blocker one and it hasn't been working, but I am not sure if the js one is the same way... Jan 26 21:09:11 javascript seems to be on as default Jan 26 21:09:17 nyceane: you could create an help file for your app, put it on a server and x-launch the browser on every launch, part of your help file is the google analytics stuff :) Jan 26 21:09:51 what is google analytics for? Jan 26 21:09:53 Update submitted: http://developer.palm.com/appredirect/?packageid=de.metaviewsoft.printimagepro Jan 26 21:09:54 open count? Jan 26 21:10:05 who use it, I guess Jan 26 21:10:10 from which country and stuff Jan 26 21:10:25 hm Jan 26 21:12:45 nyceane: Have you looked at Metrix? - http://metrix.webosroundup.com/ Jan 26 21:13:04 oil what is GehrPelcg Application ? Jan 26 21:13:21 TruCrypt Jan 26 21:13:31 horrible name Jan 26 21:13:34 of the internal drive? Jan 26 21:13:50 idk Jan 26 21:14:00 ok Jan 26 21:14:03 probably just of what you want Jan 26 21:14:06 it would let you manage the mounts Jan 26 21:17:54 hm, who is in charge for saverestore? Jan 26 21:18:01 rod, or? Jan 26 21:18:13 yeah Jan 26 21:18:58 I would like a call for palm://com.palm.power/com/palm/power/activityStart and End in autoSave Jan 26 21:19:04 hello Jan 26 21:19:16 submit the patch :) Jan 26 21:19:23 hm, yes :) Jan 26 21:19:45 Does anyone know how to do a submenu with a grid of icons like the facebook app does it? Jan 26 21:19:56 i tried doing a compounded items: thing Jan 26 21:20:11 had a look at webos101.com ? Jan 26 21:20:13 but it just shows a blank box I can scroll around Jan 26 21:20:26 I'm sure I wrote there something about submenus with icons Jan 26 21:20:38 mike456786: its html/css/js Jan 26 21:20:41 you can do whatever you want Jan 26 21:20:44 don't know how the facebook apps does it Jan 26 21:20:57 or just how it looks Jan 26 21:22:09 webos101 only has standard list submenu Jan 26 21:22:32 ok Jan 26 21:22:42 where would I find it in facebook app? Jan 26 21:22:52 click the icon button in the top right Jan 26 21:24:02 http://images.precentral.net/sites/precentral.net/files/articleimages/Dieter%20Bohn/2010/03/facebook/facebook_423.png Jan 26 21:24:21 ah, nice Jan 26 21:24:35 might be hand-made Jan 26 21:25:00 not a submenu at all, but a scrim, some css with positioning, some animation Jan 26 21:25:01 it is Jan 26 21:25:14 that is not a built-in widget Jan 26 21:28:44 hello webos! Jan 26 21:29:04 hi Jan 26 21:29:11 hello PatrickC_Pre Jan 26 21:29:15 what's the current convo about. Jan 26 21:29:23 how's it goin? Jan 26 21:30:00 a chip came off the corner of my screen today :'( Jan 26 21:30:55 so I should probably just fire a scrim using the viewmenu button and then make my own custom button widget ? Jan 26 21:31:02 hi PatrickC_Pre! Jan 26 21:31:14 hello! Jan 26 21:32:12 what's everyone up to? Jan 26 21:32:59 what apps are we working on? Jan 26 21:33:18 im trying to get a "submenu" like facebook's in my app Jan 26 21:33:38 but metaview and oil corrected me that its most likely a scrim Jan 26 21:34:17 PatrickC_Pre: I am working on a web browser :) Jan 26 21:34:41 well, I'm working on a flickr search app! lol Jan 26 21:34:48 nice! Jan 26 21:34:55 yep Jan 26 21:35:24 (now if I could just figure out how to make it so when they click the enter button it searches flickr.... :) Jan 26 21:39:24 handle the enter key Jan 26 21:39:49 a listen event for Mojo.Char.isEnterKey(key) Jan 26 21:39:49 how, I'm still very new to coding.. lol Jan 26 21:39:54 dkirker: you work on your webbrowser since i know you Jan 26 21:40:04 I'm looking up the stuff on palms site Jan 26 21:40:21 PatrickC_Pre: you might better ask google Jan 26 21:40:34 I'm about to ;) Jan 26 21:40:38 how do I update a button's label programmatically? Jan 26 21:41:02 MetaView: Yeah, I like web browsers. :) I started on a new UI for Universe Classic for PalmOS and I kind of want to finish it, but I don't think the market is big enough and my time is limited. Jan 26 21:41:07 put the label in the model and call changeModel Jan 26 21:41:24 dkirker: the market is dead Jan 26 21:41:34 I suspected as much. Jan 26 21:41:38 thanks MetaView Jan 26 21:41:39 2TwitMe only costs 1.99, I make 1 sale per week Jan 26 21:42:09 I should go an buy a beer, bbl Jan 26 21:42:18 I was half tempted to return to using my Centro... SOmetimes my Pre just doesn't keep up with me. But I am holding out for the future of webOS. Jan 26 21:42:21 MetaView: Enjoy! Jan 26 21:42:44 dkirk which pre version are you using? Jan 26 21:42:56 Pre Plus on Verizon. Jan 26 21:43:19 and you have problems with it keeping up? Jan 26 21:43:22 anyone get their tax forms from HP/Palm yet? Jan 26 21:43:24 Mostly I have been angry with the battery life. I can run the battery dead in about 4-6 hours. Most of it is background email checking. Jan 26 21:43:38 have you run Dr. Battery? Jan 26 21:43:46 thats how I found out I had a terrible battery on my Sprint Pre Jan 26 21:43:46 I believe so Jan 26 21:44:11 * PatrickC_Pre will be just lurking. school stinks lol Jan 26 21:44:12 switched out the battery with the one in the dev found I got and my battery life has returned back to a full day easily Jan 26 21:44:31 I think my problem is that I have many email accounts that the device is checking. I have updated a few to not be "as items arrive." Jan 26 21:44:40 I want to get an extended battery, though. Jan 26 21:44:52 i like the touchstone too much to do that Jan 26 21:45:19 well, not one of the extended batteries that adds more to the device's profile. I cannot live without a Touchstone. Jan 26 21:45:33 i don't know of one that doesn't Jan 26 21:46:22 The 1400mAh batteries Jan 26 21:46:57 when you close freeTether it closes you're tethering session fyi :p Jan 26 21:47:18 yeah closing most cards closes their sessions Jan 26 21:47:31 lol Jan 26 21:47:39 unless its running a service like brightness unlinked or modeswitcher Jan 26 21:48:01 I wasn't thinking and closed it.then I was trying to figure out why my computer wasn't loading web pages lol Jan 26 21:48:27 multitasking means you don't have to close it. Thats why its so great Jan 26 21:49:27 @dkirker i've heard the 1400mAh only gets like 20% longer battery life Jan 26 21:49:37 I am going to buy a Mugen 1400mAh battery. Maybe two. Jan 26 21:49:53 That is ok for me. I just need something that will last me long enough. Jan 26 21:49:54 and by then HP will hopefully have released their new phone Jan 26 21:49:56 * oil just swaps batts if he needs to Jan 26 21:50:15 I would do that, but my pocket space is becoming limited... Jan 26 21:50:25 though, having 3 dev devices on my desk for which to charge them is useful Jan 26 21:50:36 dkirker: trick i learned from rod at devdays: Jan 26 21:50:43 jackets Jan 26 21:50:46 the little thumb pocket Jan 26 21:50:46 lol Jan 26 21:50:51 is the PERFECT batt size Jan 26 21:50:52 how do I add a simple text-field to a scene? the documentation isn't clear (at least to me) Jan 26 21:51:13 oil: Yeah. I also have the battery charger, which... can charge 1 battery and hold another. :D Jan 26 21:51:26 im tellin ya, that little half pocket on jeans Jan 26 21:51:26 http://webos101.com/TextField Jan 26 21:51:30 perfect for the battery Jan 26 21:51:40 thanks Jan 26 21:51:41 ooo!!! Jan 26 21:51:54 It also holds the Palm battery charger. That means 2 batteries!! Jan 26 21:52:04 and my chapstick still fits :) Jan 26 21:52:34 if only the palm had it to where you could hook up your phone to the charger and then swap out the batteries without restarting Jan 26 21:53:04 especially on the sprint pre, that can take awhile Jan 26 21:53:23 mike: I know! and when there is no battery in it, and you plug it in. its not happy :) Jan 26 21:53:39 or a sprint Pixi! those take forever!! Jan 26 21:54:01 meh, its not that long for a new battery Jan 26 21:54:08 considering if you dont switch it won't be running Jan 26 21:55:10 if I am using a device to tether, can I still launch apps from eclipse? Jan 26 21:55:26 you'll find out? Jan 26 21:56:09 lol. when I clicked the launch button, my computer wasn't happy.... didn't know if it was my old computer or if it was normal Jan 26 21:57:13 i wish there was some webos101 articles on 2.0 APIs, 2.0 needs to move out of NDA Jan 26 21:57:31 why aren't you in NDA? Jan 26 21:57:49 no i am Jan 26 21:58:11 its this stupid synergy account creation that isn't working for me Jan 26 21:58:12 then use the api's if they provide them Jan 26 22:02:01 * PatrickC_Pre brb Jan 26 22:11:25 anyone having problems with the 1.1.4 MHS update? Jan 26 22:11:32 i can connect but no internet Jan 26 22:28:30 I have a sprint pixi and a VZW pre+ (but the pre+ is a dev phone and not activated) Jan 26 22:28:50 so idk about the MHS 1.1.4 Jan 26 22:31:36 hey guys Jan 26 22:31:39 here is a question Jan 26 22:31:51 if i set a webview to be invisible Jan 26 22:32:17 and use that website to load a page Jan 26 22:32:24