**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jan 31 02:59:57 2011 Jan 31 03:11:14 awwww. Doesn't look like webOS supports "playbackRate" in html5 audio objs Jan 31 03:11:33 SineOt: sucks... the Pixi Frame is 900px, my resolution only does 800 Jan 31 03:11:43 but i think i have it working Jan 31 03:11:43 :( Jan 31 03:11:56 :( Jan 31 03:12:02 it autodetects which emulator your running Jan 31 03:12:10 and switches the frame accordingly Jan 31 03:13:28 awesome Jan 31 03:14:38 @fudge, did you cd hamachi... Jan 31 03:14:46 wanna try it out? Jan 31 03:15:46 dawm|laptop: sure Jan 31 03:16:26 heh it crashes if the emu isnt running, but i can figure that out later Jan 31 03:17:36 how do i get cloudapp? Jan 31 03:18:22 http://getcloudapp.com/ < sign up here Jan 31 03:20:48 http://cl.ly/2q0h2X3Z2N1l0Q2F3A3b Jan 31 03:26:13 fixed the crash when no emu, i just made it exit ;p Jan 31 03:29:13 not sure how the pixi will work on your end, i moved it down like 120pixels so that its top was in the same location as the pre frame. wish there was some sorta of way to have a virtual resolution (Scrolling desktop) Jan 31 03:38:25 ok i changed it, new url is http://cl.ly/4JQL Jan 31 03:39:03 SimFinger for webOS ^^ (supports Pre and Pixi emu) needs Pixi testing cause my resolution sucks Jan 31 03:44:20 dawm|laptop: needs to be moved up a bit Jan 31 03:44:33 how much is a bit? Jan 31 03:44:39 the whole simfinger window that is Jan 31 03:44:53 at the moment, it is truncated through the space bar Jan 31 03:45:00 is there a way for me to move it up at this end? Jan 31 03:45:10 no the window ignores all input Jan 31 03:46:41 ill have to look tomorrow to see if i can find some virtual resolution hack for the mac, cause i gotta get to bed Jan 31 04:09:26 anyone here use webos and an exchange server? Jan 31 04:44:13 hay Jan 31 04:44:29 hows it goin? Jan 31 04:48:00 You don't want to know Jan 31 05:00:55 that good Jan 31 07:16:13 hi guys Jan 31 07:19:23 anyone complied PDK app with CURL? Jan 31 08:46:06 morning Jan 31 08:46:14 Mahlzeit. Jan 31 08:48:34 gutten morgen Jan 31 08:52:19 this sdl stuff is rough Jan 31 09:00:47 shades: you don't have a lack of resources and tutorials man... http://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=5775 Jan 31 09:02:34 aajust a lot to it Jan 31 09:02:57 it's c++ ... there's always a lot to it Jan 31 09:09:59 i need to refresh on classes/structs Jan 31 09:10:04 have a good how to for that? Jan 31 11:34:57 hi. How can I do: controller.stageController.setWindowProperties({fastAccelerometer:true}); in the PDK? Jan 31 11:56:16 do you need to? Jan 31 11:57:18 Just found out I don't. Sorry Jan 31 13:17:13 what's everyone's favorite weather service? Jan 31 13:17:28 accuweather! Jan 31 13:18:15 favorite service, or app? Jan 31 13:18:28 I just care about services and accuracy Jan 31 13:19:04 meteoschweiz :) Jan 31 13:19:46 lol Jan 31 13:20:19 looking out the window Jan 31 13:21:34 me and some neighbours were planing on stealing a tree for the 1. of May, so I told them we should wait till 5 pm as it will rain then. And that very minute it started :-) Accuweather rulez. Jan 31 13:21:56 why would you steal a tree? Jan 31 13:22:07 tradition mostly Jan 31 13:22:20 haha ok Jan 31 13:22:47 like that statue made of hay in some country(sweden i think) that it's against the law to burn down, but it's been burned down every year? Jan 31 13:22:49 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maypole Jan 31 13:23:07 i know what a maypole is Jan 31 13:23:15 i just didn't understand why you need to steal a tree Jan 31 13:23:33 right Jan 31 13:23:35 ic Jan 31 13:23:35 what the crap. you have to be a certain age to use the weather channel api. that's pathetic Jan 31 13:23:40 now you know Jan 31 13:23:55 Tibfib: Like 80 or what? Jan 31 13:24:01 no clue Jan 31 13:24:07 but my actual birthdate doesn't work Jan 31 13:24:25 I'll sign up for my dad Jan 31 13:24:44 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%A4vle_goat haha, found it Jan 31 13:24:51 but there's nothing on the terms of use saying you have to be 18 Jan 31 13:25:26 u sure u are signing up for the right "weather" channel ? Jan 31 13:25:32 workerhaven: cool Jan 31 13:26:02 yyep Jan 31 13:26:11 http://www.weather.com/services/xmloap.html Jan 31 13:27:58 oh: YOU MAY NOT USE THE SERVICE TO CREATE WEATHER AND WEATHER-RELATED PRODUCTS TO BE DISPLAYED ON HANDHELD OR OTHER WIRELESS DEVICES. Jan 31 13:28:05 doh Jan 31 13:28:19 nevermind on weather channel Jan 31 13:28:27 lol Jan 31 13:28:56 that's interesting, my dad developed that to be used FOR mobile apps Jan 31 13:29:16 (he worked at weather for a while as their CTO) Jan 31 13:29:39 whoa, nice Jan 31 13:30:18 i wonder if he knows they've now implemented that policy Jan 31 13:31:31 hell, his team developed like 90% of the backend stuff, and they did the front-end too but weather redid it a few years ago after he had left and the reskin sucked Jan 31 13:31:48 doesn't surprise me though Jan 31 13:32:15 looks like when the iphone came out they threw that on there so people couldn't develop an app to contend with the weather app Jan 31 13:33:08 yeah, that's dumb. Jan 31 13:33:21 are you allowed to display it on your website? Jan 31 13:33:26 yea Jan 31 13:33:30 then write an app that displays your site Jan 31 13:33:40 it looks like it's for use on site widgets Jan 31 13:33:47 what the crap: You may not use the Wunderground Data Feed for use in a mobile application for mass distribution, even if there is no monetary cost for the mobile application. Jan 31 13:33:55 what do people use for weather apps? Jan 31 13:34:23 it sounds like they've all locked down their TOS to prevent people from creating an app using their data in case they ever decide to make an app Jan 31 13:34:25 a $50 weather station with USB? Jan 31 13:34:51 just get a sat antenna Jan 31 13:34:59 capture their sat transmissions Jan 31 13:35:12 you need 2. One in UK, one in AU, then interpolate the results :D Jan 31 13:35:13 they're broadcasting that shit into your house, it's free use Jan 31 13:35:45 Workenhaven - right. Didn't think of that! Jan 31 13:36:45 yahoo! weather is non-commercial Jan 31 13:37:30 weatherbug might work Jan 31 13:37:57 arg if I give them 10% revenue Jan 31 13:40:57 10% of free is how much? Jan 31 13:41:19 yay! http://www.worldweatheronline.com/free-weather-feed.aspx Jan 31 13:41:28 swisstomcat: well I'm planning on charging Jan 31 13:41:39 but weather isn't going to be the main feature Jan 31 13:41:55 i see Jan 31 13:44:36 i think you should just do getWeather() { return rand.rand(); } Jan 31 13:44:42 lol Jan 31 13:46:08 the worldweatheronline api might do the trick Jan 31 13:46:21 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/151439 Jan 31 13:48:02 heh Jan 31 13:52:03 is it possible to activate a drawer on creation? Jan 31 13:52:15 bah. dashboard Jan 31 13:52:17 * Jan 31 13:52:41 oh, I bet it is. I think music player remix does it Jan 31 13:58:00 wait, no it doesn't Jan 31 14:01:01 * Tibfib tests Jan 31 15:14:49 Big Update: Tuts+ 1.0.1 adds local caching and morehttp://developer.palm.com/appredirect/?packageid=com.inorbit.tutsplus Jan 31 15:25:51 hey guys what do you think of this mock up http://i539.photobucket.com/albums/ff357/Tibfib/alarm%20clock/clock-mockup.png ? Jan 31 15:29:51 hmm Jan 31 15:30:10 i think the command-menu doesn't fit (in terms of style) Jan 31 15:30:14 nice otherwise Jan 31 15:30:37 good point Jan 31 15:31:51 I wonder if I got rid of the command menu altogether and had tapping "Next alarm" or "Create New Alarm" (if there aren't any) launch alarms would work Jan 31 15:32:19 it might Jan 31 15:32:26 or restyle the command-menu too Jan 31 15:32:36 as what though? Jan 31 15:32:58 hmm not a bad thought. Jan 31 15:36:50 same "airy" style as the clock panel maybe Jan 31 15:46:46 * halfhalo is happy Jan 31 15:47:08 good to hear Jan 31 15:49:03 * halfhalo has opportunity to make the monies needed for whatever is announced on feb 9 Jan 31 15:49:13 good! Jan 31 15:49:23 600 for a laptop review Jan 31 15:49:33 wow. and furthermore, gosh. Jan 31 15:49:37 how long? Jan 31 15:49:49 1200-1800 Jan 31 15:49:52 nice Jan 31 15:49:53 wow Jan 31 15:49:57 For notebook review Jan 31 15:50:02 crap. 50 cents a word is pro rates. Jan 31 15:50:10 all i got was 150 for a similar sized tutorial Jan 31 15:50:21 or was it 250 Jan 31 15:50:27 * halfhalo knows people. People who owe him Jan 31 15:50:46 People who still have my damn mouse Jan 31 15:51:01 gold plated mouse? Jan 31 15:51:22 repair guy from my local Herrmann Miller dealer just left. My chair no longer sinks to the floor. Jan 31 15:52:54 I wish gold plated mouse... Jan 31 15:57:09 palmpad needs to be tmo compatible... don't want to pay for data now Jan 31 15:57:45 is there any way to get the camery image in a PDK program? I don't need a fancy FPs. Jan 31 15:57:48 tmo will be low on the list I think Jan 31 15:58:33 one can hope tho.... or the ipad data plan needs to work on it, I could work with that Jan 31 15:58:34 tmo? Jan 31 15:58:43 tmobile Jan 31 15:58:59 i don't care about 3g in the tablet Jan 31 15:59:06 that's what freetether is for :) Jan 31 15:59:36 I have come to the conclusing I am to damn lazy to always be tethering Jan 31 16:00:03 yeah, depends on your use Jan 31 16:00:05 usage Jan 31 16:00:39 the pad should signal the phone to start/activate the tethering Jan 31 16:00:41 well, I do have wifi everywhere Jan 31 16:02:47 eh, carriers wouldn't go for that here Jan 31 16:07:59 ok, back to looking like I'm paying attention in class Jan 31 16:09:16 * Tibfib is trying to figure out why margin-bottom: -1px and margin-bottom: 0px are 10pixels apart Jan 31 16:10:13 It hates topi Jan 31 16:10:15 well actually 17 pixels Jan 31 16:10:27 you Jan 31 16:10:35 apparently Jan 31 16:11:21 I blame padding Jan 31 16:11:39 would that do it? Jan 31 16:11:41 div padding? Jan 31 16:11:51 Maybe Jan 31 16:12:04 lemme see Jan 31 16:12:10 depends on situation Jan 31 16:12:54 hmm, adding padding-bottom: 0px didn't change anything Jan 31 16:13:49 Dunno Jan 31 16:14:02 doesn't make sense. :/ Jan 31 16:14:08 morning guys Jan 31 16:14:14 morn Jan 31 16:14:18 howdy Jan 31 16:15:14 * halfhalo yawns Jan 31 16:15:47 yeah, it's kinda like that Jan 31 16:16:26 * swisstomcat falls off his chair Jan 31 16:16:41 well, that's one way to wake up Jan 31 16:16:44 what the. if I do margin-bottom: -1px; and ANY padding, it adds the extra 17pixels Jan 31 16:16:52 * halfhalo gives swisstomcat a seatbelt Jan 31 16:16:55 lol Jan 31 16:17:05 hehe Jan 31 16:17:18 css is dumb Jan 31 16:17:22 Yup Jan 31 16:17:31 lies Jan 31 16:17:37 Maybe Jan 31 16:17:44 incompetent css users are dumb Jan 31 16:17:48 harhar Jan 31 16:17:49 hey! Jan 31 16:18:24 try host-mode and webdev-tools to find out what's wrong Jan 31 16:18:24 I know I am Jan 31 16:19:33 Or a brick Jan 31 16:19:33 * swisstomcat is stuck on a magento project the next 3 weeks .. why, oh why? Jan 31 16:19:53 Lol Jan 31 16:20:21 where's the stuff on host mode? Jan 31 16:20:32 not here: http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1784&Itemid=328 Jan 31 16:21:08 http://developer.palm.com/index.php?id=1744 Jan 31 16:21:32 oh, that'd make sense Jan 31 16:22:46 Uggg... Bored Jan 31 16:23:04 as far as i remember, school was mostly boring Jan 31 16:23:30 Yeah... But this is really boring Jan 31 16:24:26 thanks swisstomcat Jan 31 16:24:46 is it working? Jan 31 16:25:07 getting it set up Jan 31 16:28:45 swisstomcat you're working on making electrical surges with magnets and coils? or is this magneto a software product? Jan 31 16:29:30 hi. i am new to web os. i am developing an app in PDK and i want to use an SQLIte database in the background. How to interface it? Are there any API avaiabble for it? Jan 31 16:30:50 does host mode work on headless apps? Jan 31 16:37:05 can anyone help me in interfacing SQLite database with PDK? Jan 31 16:39:00 brajesh what's the issue? Sqlite is just a program you can call Jan 31 16:39:02 it's easy to turn off Data on a pixi completely, right? Jan 31 16:40:49 rick-work i have a databse in .db format and i want to use that in my Palm app? need to run SQL commands on it and access its data Jan 31 16:42:02 can i directly include SQLite code n call its function in PDK? Jan 31 16:45:13 rick_work: no, magento as in the e-commerce software Jan 31 16:45:41 brajesh: i guess you'd have to link some sqlite library? Jan 31 16:47:42 bbl Jan 31 17:08:22 hey guys Jan 31 17:08:24 anybody here? Jan 31 17:08:40 this.controller.stageController.popScene('foo'); Jan 31 17:08:48 how do i receive this in parent controller? Jan 31 17:10:01 what parent controller? Jan 31 17:10:05 the stage? Jan 31 17:10:18 if so, this.controller.popScene("foo") Jan 31 17:11:02 chuqui! good morning! Jan 31 17:11:18 and a good morning to you, also! Jan 31 17:12:42 good day in palm land? Jan 31 17:13:57 morning chuqui Jan 31 17:14:18 chuqui, my rewrite is almost done, probably can be pushed to market tonight Jan 31 17:14:20 good day in palm land, at least so far... (still checking email. grin) Jan 31 17:14:25 just fixing some additional bugs =) Jan 31 17:14:48 Tibfib, how do i receive "foo" in my parent controller? Jan 31 17:16:35 the stage? Jan 31 17:16:47 or the previous scene? Jan 31 17:17:25 previous scene Jan 31 17:17:57 I try to capture it on PreviousScene.prototype.activate = function(event) Jan 31 17:18:01 do this.controller.stageController.popScene({key: value}) then in activate of previous scene it will be event.key Jan 31 17:18:29 let me try Jan 31 17:21:15 I see old posts about palm including push messaging in older versions of the sdk... but not finding the info I need if it IS there... so my question is... does the sdk currently have push messaging, and if so... anyone know where I can find more information about it Jan 31 17:21:22 no Jan 31 17:21:29 sadly, it doesn't Jan 31 17:21:47 that is sad since that was a article on webos from 2009 Jan 31 17:22:17 does it have fascilities to keep a long running lifeless connection open to a server with al ong timeout (via say pdk?) Jan 31 17:22:53 I believe you can do that (no promises) via javascript services. otherwise you HAVE to have a stage open Jan 31 17:24:07 well I would think between services and node I could do it Jan 31 17:31:37 Tibfib, give me a few, starting to debug Jan 31 17:38:11 lemketron: Ping ping ping... Jan 31 17:58:52 http://goo.gl/5EmK3 -- question: Why do you call your service unlimited, when my monthly usage is limited? -- answer: We refer to TELUS High Speed as being unlimited because you get unlimited hours of monthly access. Jan 31 17:58:58 lmao Jan 31 17:59:22 lol Jan 31 17:59:55 claro que si Jan 31 18:01:59 who thinks it's coincidence that we have 14.4kbps and 14.4mbps Jan 31 18:02:19 dun dun dunnnnn Jan 31 18:03:48 you really get the short end of the stick for devices on telus, huh? Jan 31 18:05:07 its canada, what do you expect Jan 31 18:07:53 TibFib, are you here? Jan 31 18:08:02 Tibfib, are you here? Jan 31 18:09:08 yes Jan 31 18:09:15 this.controller.stageController.popScene({key:'test'}); Jan 31 18:09:34 the event is still null Jan 31 18:10:16 PreviousAssistant.prototype.activate = function(event) { Mojo.Controller.errorDialog(event == null); Jan 31 18:10:16 } Jan 31 18:10:25 it keeps poping null... =| Jan 31 18:11:06 umm, try error dialoging event.key Jan 31 18:11:20 or do event === null Jan 31 18:11:29 I did Jan 31 18:11:42 Mojo.Controller.errorDialog(event == null); Jan 31 18:11:48 it pops out true Jan 31 18:11:55 event === null Jan 31 18:12:23 what does === do? Jan 31 18:12:33 :O Jan 31 18:12:59 same value and type Jan 31 18:13:03 == is just same value Jan 31 18:13:13 soo it's screwing it up I believe Jan 31 18:13:27 have you erroDialoged just event.key? Jan 31 18:14:05 oh this is so true - http://kotaku.com/5747784/its-time-to-confess-our-video-game-lies Jan 31 18:14:15 yah Jan 31 18:14:19 its null Jan 31 18:14:32 in fact it won't even loa Jan 31 18:14:33 load Jan 31 18:15:01 hmm, that should work. Jan 31 18:17:03 what's faster? getting time from date object or getSystemTime ? Jan 31 18:20:47 chuqui: Hola Jan 31 18:21:32 Roy-Pre101: hey ho Jan 31 18:24:20 Who you callin' ho? Jan 31 18:35:39 howdee hoo Jan 31 18:40:05 well then. Jan 31 18:41:04 hidey ho Jan 31 18:42:01 I've been out of the palm world for a while... is there any new decent hardware out Jan 31 18:42:15 or just just the plus models? Jan 31 18:42:27 the [REDACTED] stuff only Jan 31 18:42:49 ? Jan 31 18:43:10 what is redacted stuff Jan 31 18:43:48 never mind.... Jan 31 18:44:04 pre 2 ron_frown Jan 31 18:44:08 twas supposed to be a joke Jan 31 18:44:14 oh is that out Jan 31 18:44:15 ? Jan 31 18:44:20 but other news is out 9 feb Jan 31 18:44:28 yes pre 2 is out Jan 31 18:51:06 my clock can tell time! Jan 31 18:51:25 ron_frown - Your better off waiting for what is coming next Jan 31 18:51:38 feb9th Jan 31 18:51:42 pre2 is nice Jan 31 18:51:57 eh pre2 is what we should have had in 2010 Jan 31 18:52:02 not so nice now Jan 31 18:53:02 Pre2 will get you through day to day tasks... not as laggy as Pre +/- Jan 31 18:53:44 hrmm Jan 31 18:55:11 CTLAdvance: and thats not going to just be another damned tablet Jan 31 18:55:12 * Tibfib likes pre2 Jan 31 18:55:15 that would be my guess Jan 31 18:55:36 I actually like the pre.. I have a regular pre (plus?) and the other wonky one Jan 31 18:55:45 but screen realestate and processor were limiting Jan 31 18:56:19 your so close to know what you might be getting, you should wait Jan 31 18:59:17 The pre2 has the same limiting screen space, and a slightly faster, but more efficient processor. Jan 31 18:59:48 However it still lags at certain things, and others were replaced with native software to increase the look and feel Jan 31 18:59:50 like the launcher Jan 31 19:00:09 pre webOS 2.0, the launcher was all laggy and not smooth Jan 31 19:00:14 new launcher is much nicer Jan 31 19:00:26 its def a better device Jan 31 19:00:31 but still Jan 31 19:00:43 feb 9th is now 9 days away until we see devices and maybe launch dates Jan 31 19:00:48 I hope Jan 31 19:03:00 * hotdp likes pre 2 Jan 31 19:03:17 CTLAdvance do you use a Palm phone? Jan 31 19:03:25 Yes I do Jan 31 19:03:30 I have a pre- and a pre 2 Jan 31 19:03:50 and you fell like it is a bad phone ? Jan 31 19:03:52 the pre 2 ? Jan 31 19:04:29 yeah. I love my pre2. I wish I could use it full time. Jan 31 19:04:32 it's 2011 now Jan 31 19:04:39 I didnt say it was a bad phone, its more like an ok phone, its not something I would say, go out of my way to buy though. Jan 31 19:05:05 you just made it sound like its not a good phone Jan 31 19:05:08 i really like mine Jan 31 19:07:38 good, I use the pre 2 as a day to day phone for personal and work use Jan 31 19:20:07 pretty amazed that this picture came from my cellphone (Pre minus). http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5015/5402558817_b5ef86b5af_b.jpg Jan 31 19:20:26 did the camera in the Pre2 get an upgrade? Jan 31 19:21:38 Looked it up, Pre1 = 3mp camera. Pre2 = 5mp camera Jan 31 19:26:43 can you have Mojo.Format.formatDate return just the date, not the time as well? Jan 31 19:32:41 hello Jan 31 19:32:58 hey, I know a guy named Archit Jan 31 19:32:59 I have been working on palm os for the development of an application for palm Jan 31 19:33:24 archit_: palmos or webos? Jan 31 19:33:39 palmos Jan 31 19:33:59 Tibfib: I think you can, check the options object you can pass it Jan 31 19:34:04 archit_: people are still developing apps for palm os? Jan 31 19:34:10 wow Jan 31 19:34:31 Tibfib: yes you can Jan 31 19:34:37 oh, I was doing it wrong Jan 31 19:34:47 date, time, or both Jan 31 19:34:48 archit_: like for Centro and so on Jan 31 19:35:07 I am using opengl for the development of the app Jan 31 19:35:11 whoops Jan 31 19:35:20 yeah, I did it wrong. I sent DATE not date Jan 31 19:35:59 I just wanted to know that can I make the general opengl or I need to use opengl ES for this? Jan 31 19:35:59 sugardave, haeffb_pre: thank you Jan 31 19:36:25 I just wanted to know that can I make the app in general opengl or I need to use opengl ES for this? Jan 31 19:36:40 archit_: are you sure you don't mean webOS? Jan 31 19:36:59 yes Jan 31 19:37:18 archit_: I doubt anyone here knows palmos Jan 31 19:37:19 yay! I now have my own personal printer in my office Jan 31 19:37:23 maybe a few people Jan 31 19:37:31 webos is totally different Jan 31 19:37:31 no more trips down the hall Jan 31 19:37:39 there was opengl on palmos devices? Jan 31 19:37:42 haeffb_pre: movin' on up! Jan 31 19:38:03 brought my old laser from home... Jan 31 19:38:08 heh Jan 31 19:38:15 i am sorry it is webos Jan 31 19:38:22 IS doesn't need to know about it, right? Jan 31 19:39:04 basically i am developing a game in opengl Jan 31 19:39:10 yay! someone stole my license plate + registration stickers and now I have to go into the DMV Jan 31 19:39:12 archit_: ah, in that case, yes. if you want to do accelerated graphics you need opengl-es Jan 31 19:39:15 :( Jan 31 19:39:53 i.e. the less they know about what I do to my computer, the better they sleep at night. Jan 31 19:39:58 archit_: there is no openGL support on the device, only ES Jan 31 19:40:13 dohtem: that sucks. :/ Jan 31 19:40:14 i'm actually doing them a favor Jan 31 19:40:31 haeffb_pre: you are Jan 31 19:42:39 can you give me some links that how to go about the s hing Jan 31 19:42:56 *es thing? Jan 31 19:43:51 I am finding problems in finding the proper documentation of this Jan 31 19:45:25 archit_: if you're doing a 2d game and you don't need acceleration you may be fine with just using SDL Jan 31 19:46:47 there are good books about opengl ES 1.x and opengl ES 2.x (1 and 2 have very significant differences, but webos devices support both versions) Jan 31 19:49:00 what would you prefer for a 2D game ? Jan 31 19:49:04 ES or SDL Jan 31 19:49:55 ? Jan 31 19:50:08 archit_: I haven't developed in either one, I recommend talking to dtzWill in #webos-internals, he's done ports of various games using plain SDL and others using SDL + opegl es Jan 31 19:55:21 is paratrooper also c++? it looks like it were SDK, not PDK Jan 31 19:57:02 hrm. i want tron with multiplayer over lan or bluetooth o my pre :) Jan 31 19:58:30 that's thinking beyond! Jan 31 20:00:51 leiru: ME TOO Jan 31 20:01:01 dohotem, wtf? Jan 31 20:01:03 and it needs to be cross platform Jan 31 20:01:15 * Tibfib wants to play ea monopoly with iPod touches Jan 31 20:01:19 dohtem: off your car? or...? Jan 31 20:02:01 yeah Jan 31 20:02:05 Tibfib, any idea on pop scene? Jan 31 20:02:09 doh Jan 31 20:02:12 ripped the damn thing out Jan 31 20:02:18 nyceane: it should work. that's all I got :/ Jan 31 20:02:22 it's still showing up as null =| Jan 31 20:02:27 do you want to see my full code? Jan 31 20:02:43 i m doing popscene in an alertbox btw Jan 31 20:02:50 * haeffb_pre wonders if assurion still has pre- for replacements Jan 31 20:03:24 nyceane: have you tried not in an alertbox? Jan 31 20:04:53 not yet, let me try Jan 31 20:27:24 so after weeks of chipping away, i FINALLY got my sister into a Pixi+ and just got a txt "God I LOVE the palm!" Jan 31 20:27:55