**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Feb 05 02:59:57 2011 Feb 05 03:00:26 soo.. is the webchat on freenode.net an ok way to go or should I get like a native mac IRC client? Feb 05 03:00:39 get a client Feb 05 03:00:45 colloquy is great Feb 05 03:00:57 http://colloquy.info/ Feb 05 03:01:07 i use xchat Feb 05 03:01:11 okie. lol Feb 05 03:01:15 or you can get wIRC for your phone Feb 05 03:01:33 my blackberry? :( Feb 05 03:01:35 i use wirc all the time! Feb 05 03:01:40 not sure about the BBerry Feb 05 03:01:42 your webOS phone Feb 05 03:01:49 wanna write for an app review site/tech blog? Feb 05 03:01:52 i only use it for development right now Feb 05 03:01:54 i need blackberry writers Feb 05 03:02:06 it could be concidered development lol Feb 05 03:02:59 UM Feb 05 03:03:00 idk Feb 05 03:03:07 i'm pretty busy with voogle development and such. Feb 05 03:03:08 sorry Feb 05 03:05:22 ur developeing voogle? Feb 05 03:05:45 Yussir Feb 05 03:07:30 awesome! Feb 05 03:08:24 totes. :P Feb 05 03:08:31 do you use it? :) Feb 05 03:09:15 no. i have seen it though Feb 05 03:09:25 not really sure what it is to tell ya the truth lol Feb 05 03:09:44 it's a client for Google Voice http://voice.google.com Feb 05 03:10:15 what is google voice lol Feb 05 03:10:27 i use gmail and google groups but nothing else by google Feb 05 03:10:36 besides google search, and everyone uses that lol Feb 05 03:10:57 honestly, I have trouble explaining it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOZU7BOeQ58 - That's google's explenation Feb 05 03:11:10 ok, ill take a look at that later, thanks Feb 05 03:11:11 explanation* Feb 05 03:11:14 okie Feb 05 03:28:21 so, whats everyone up to? Feb 05 03:28:38 * oil was trying to activate sprint pre2, but no luck Feb 05 03:29:35 well, we wont have to wait much longer (as the verizon one should be out in like 2wks Feb 05 03:30:04 * PatrickC_Home wants to know if oil wants to write for another tech blog/app review site? lol Feb 05 03:30:12 i dont write for one Feb 05 03:30:38 i thought u wrote for P|C Feb 05 03:30:38 well, do u want to? lol Feb 05 03:30:40 wow it is REALLY quite in this channel... o_o Feb 05 03:30:59 lol, no, i dont write for precentral Feb 05 03:31:00 lol Feb 05 03:31:11 im no wordsmith Feb 05 03:31:19 you dont have to be lol Feb 05 03:31:33 im not either (as u can plainly see :p) Feb 05 03:31:46 * oil sticks to writing code Feb 05 03:31:53 haha Feb 05 03:31:56 at least im good at that Feb 05 03:32:26 lol, well im not good at that (well kinda lol) Feb 05 03:36:16 ConnorLaCombe: webOS devs are the coolest devs and all have super-exciting/interesting weekends Feb 05 03:36:43 haha Feb 05 03:36:45 we're talking James Bond-esque lifestyles Feb 05 03:36:48 wait what Feb 05 03:36:49 lol Feb 05 03:37:01 well I know we're the coolest, I thought that was obvious :P Feb 05 03:37:11 we all have the time of our life on the weekends! Feb 05 03:37:22 we get together and try and make a Pre3 for sprint Feb 05 03:37:34 * PatrickC_Home waits for some replies haha Feb 05 03:37:35 is it bad that I just figured out how to snap my fingers? Feb 05 03:37:43 *goes completely off topic* Feb 05 03:37:45 lol, nope Feb 05 03:38:11 * oil couldn't snap his fingers for a while Feb 05 03:38:32 it's harder than it seems ._. Feb 05 03:38:38 lmao Feb 05 03:38:56 i couldnt do it for the longest time Feb 05 03:39:02 then i finaly learned lol Feb 05 03:39:07 im real good at it now though Feb 05 03:39:31 same here Feb 05 03:39:37 i still suck at it. Feb 05 03:39:38 lmao Feb 05 03:39:56 bah, i keep getting distracted by this irc thing :P Feb 05 03:40:07 thats its job Feb 05 03:40:08 it is a blessing Feb 05 03:40:11 ....and a curse Feb 05 03:40:13 distracting you from code Feb 05 03:40:38 yep Feb 05 03:40:39 T_T Feb 05 03:40:45 * sugardave is trying to learn how to use Blender. Feb 05 03:40:53 i gave up after like 10 minutes.. lmao Feb 05 03:40:58 * PatrickC_Home wants to know what blender is lol Feb 05 03:41:04 3d modeling Feb 05 03:41:15 shit well beyond my ken Feb 05 03:41:39 what r u doing 3d modeling for? lol Feb 05 03:41:57 I just want to know how to do it Feb 05 03:42:02 lol Feb 05 03:42:14 its easy to suck at Feb 05 03:42:18 wow I keep getting sugar_dave and rmxdave mixed up T_T Feb 05 03:42:21 if that makes any sense Feb 05 03:42:32 oil: awesome Feb 05 03:48:34 anyone want to work on getting into the pixi's LED? Feb 05 03:50:09 http://blog.laptopmag.com/os-bowl-final-webos-vs-windows-phone-7-voting-ends-tuesday-28-at-9-a-m Feb 05 03:50:44 50.97% to 49.03% Feb 05 03:50:54 too bad i've already voted Feb 05 03:51:14 thank goodness the poll ends after the press event Feb 05 03:51:17 just voted Feb 05 03:51:26 hopefully that gives us a little bump Feb 05 03:51:27 i wish it ended tonight! lol Feb 05 03:51:40 after? Feb 05 03:51:42 you mean, before Feb 05 03:51:52 "OS Bowl Final: webOS vs. Windows Phone 7. Voting ends Tuesday, 2/8 at 9 a.m." Feb 05 03:52:01 2/8 < 2/9 Feb 05 03:52:49 oh crap, I was thinking it was on Monday Feb 05 03:53:24 I guess I"ll cross my fingers and hope HP bought some super bowl ad time Feb 05 03:53:36 hope so too Feb 05 03:55:33 when they could be putting that money into more awesomeness? Feb 05 03:56:21 I just want a Pre3/4 for Sprint on 4g Feb 05 03:57:23 anyone need a fog horn app? lo Feb 05 03:57:25 lol** Feb 05 03:59:15 so Feb 05 03:59:32 so what lol Feb 05 03:59:41 as stated the other day i tried to wait fir pre2 but i need a device now emergency reasons Feb 05 03:59:43 0_o Feb 05 03:59:48 i just ordered palm pre plus Feb 05 03:59:50 woo woo Feb 05 03:59:59 lol, awesome! Feb 05 04:00:02 yea Feb 05 04:00:03 did u try Craigslist? Feb 05 04:00:06 nope Feb 05 04:00:08 straight form ATT Feb 05 04:00:18 i was upgrade eligble Feb 05 04:00:23 that probably could have held u out for a little while Feb 05 04:00:27 and u didnt get an unlocked one? Feb 05 04:00:30 and you did it a week before they announce new hotness? Feb 05 04:00:31 nope Feb 05 04:00:36 oil had to Feb 05 04:00:41 y not the unlocked one? Feb 05 04:00:41 had to? Feb 05 04:00:42 family / everyone tries to get a hold of me Feb 05 04:00:51 they're all "we'll break your legs you dont get this phone" Feb 05 04:00:53 what happened to ur old phone Feb 05 04:00:53 school etc .. Feb 05 04:01:03 PatrickC_Home wife broke it Feb 05 04:01:03 lol Feb 05 04:01:12 sounds like fun lol Feb 05 04:01:14 what phone? Feb 05 04:01:21 mt3g Feb 05 04:01:26 mytouch3g it was android based Feb 05 04:01:34 android...... Feb 05 04:01:35 lol Feb 05 04:01:38 it was a big leap for me going from android to webos Feb 05 04:01:39 they have a good OS Feb 05 04:01:40 sierously Feb 05 04:01:44 yea Feb 05 04:01:49 i have been doing research for a while on webos Feb 05 04:01:52 webos yay Feb 05 04:01:55 woah woah woah... did someone just say android was good? Feb 05 04:01:56 >:O Feb 05 04:01:59 but palm hands down can sell it self on multitasking Feb 05 04:02:01 litererally Feb 05 04:02:06 they can campagin on multitasking Feb 05 04:02:19 does the my3g work at all? Feb 05 04:02:24 nope Feb 05 04:02:33 wife broke it .. i have it back but we can't find the battery Feb 05 04:02:34 ok Feb 05 04:02:34 :D Feb 05 04:02:35 yes, i said android was /good/ Feb 05 04:02:41 seriously though, you should ahve gone with a cheap loaner until new webos devices Feb 05 04:02:54 if ceo speak is to be believed, they announce, then release within 2 weeks Feb 05 04:02:55 cant u just plug it into the wall and use it? Feb 05 04:02:59 nope .. oil wife would have tried to make me keep it Feb 05 04:03:15 keep what? the loaner? Feb 05 04:03:18 yea Feb 05 04:03:23 i don't think att does loanders Feb 05 04:03:26 just be like "i hear you talking, but i keep wondering where my sandwich is" Feb 05 04:03:29 lol, but u cant :) Feb 05 04:03:39 oil: hehehe Feb 05 04:03:42 lol Feb 05 04:03:50 so Feb 05 04:04:01 now i need to take all my android chans off my autojoin list Feb 05 04:04:01 so, new pre, install preware! Feb 05 04:04:02 no point Feb 05 04:04:06 yes Feb 05 04:04:22 did u install it yet?> Feb 05 04:04:25 install all of my apps :) Feb 05 04:04:32 and mine too :) Feb 05 04:05:15 Shipping Carrier: Unless you are an employee of UPS, USPS or DHL, your shipment should ship via FedEx. Feb 05 04:05:17 w00t Feb 05 04:05:30 im very excited Feb 05 04:05:41 i love universal search .. my wife is gonna love it to also Feb 05 04:05:45 she uses my phones now and again Feb 05 04:05:50 it gets better on 2.0 Feb 05 04:05:53 see you tomorrow Feb 05 04:05:53 macman_ wanna be a writer on an awesome new tech blog/app review site? Feb 05 04:05:59 2.0 rocks Feb 05 04:06:00 lol Feb 05 04:06:08 ok, i guess i asked a little to late lol Feb 05 04:06:32 oil, do u do any patches for preware? Feb 05 04:06:47 haha Feb 05 04:06:50 my first patch is for 2.0 Feb 05 04:07:13 what patch? Feb 05 04:07:22 to change "Just Type" to "Boom! Action Time" Feb 05 04:07:25 wanna work on getting into the pixi's LED? Feb 05 04:07:34 because of devdays joke Feb 05 04:07:35 ive been waiting for ever to get it for my Pixi Feb 05 04:07:43 not really Feb 05 04:07:44 lol Feb 05 04:07:49 what jokes? lol Feb 05 04:07:49 * oil isn't much of a patcher Feb 05 04:07:51 i wasnt there Feb 05 04:07:57 * PatrickC_Home same ehre Feb 05 04:08:00 here** lol Feb 05 04:09:00 * PatrickC_Home is installing the sdk on his computer. loves windows 7, especially x64 Feb 05 04:12:06 it got real quite lol Feb 05 04:12:38 im gona go Feb 05 04:12:44 talk to u later, will probably be on later Feb 05 04:12:47 cya Feb 05 04:27:36 BAM Feb 05 04:28:20 ...you know what's a REALLY good distraction. theChive :D Feb 05 05:43:49 hello people Feb 05 05:46:53 'evening Feb 05 05:48:15 how's it goin? Feb 05 05:49:20 mmm, not too bad, I suppose Feb 05 05:49:40 good Feb 05 05:49:52 whatcha working on? Feb 05 05:50:23 I should be packing my apartment so that I can move to the South Bay. But right now, I think that I will work on moVox or Universe. Feb 05 05:50:40 lol, you movin? Feb 05 05:50:46 yup Feb 05 05:50:52 end of the month Feb 05 05:50:57 sounds like fun Feb 05 05:51:05 I just had to move twice lol Feb 05 05:51:32 * PatrickC_Pre needs to plug his Pre is, down to 9% battery :p Feb 05 05:52:28 what is movox? google was no help lol Feb 05 05:52:42 http://www.openmobl.com/movox/ Feb 05 05:52:51 it is the webOS VoIP client that I am working on. Feb 05 05:52:55 Universe is a web browser. Feb 05 05:53:27 so you are working on another web browser then the current stock one? Feb 05 05:53:40 I'll b a beta tester for you lol Feb 05 05:54:28 I'll set up some program soon, when I have something to test. Feb 05 05:55:12 ok. can I be in it? :p Feb 05 05:56:28 It is very likely. I'll probably post a link in here when something is available. Feb 05 05:56:47 did you code that site? Feb 05 05:56:50 cool thanks Feb 05 05:59:28 yes, I did Feb 05 06:00:16 hola Feb 05 06:00:16 awesome! how did you lean HTML/CSS? I've been trying to learn, but couldn't do anything near that Feb 05 06:00:23 didn't somebody say something when i left last time ? Feb 05 06:00:37 macman_! hay Feb 05 06:00:41 yhho Feb 05 06:00:44 I was asking you if you wanted to write for my blog Feb 05 06:00:49 lol Feb 05 06:00:53 nop Feb 05 06:01:06 ok Feb 05 06:01:18 what about you dkirker Feb 05 06:01:41 what about me? Feb 05 06:01:57 wanna write for my tech blog/app review site? Feb 05 06:02:11 No, sorry. I don't have the time right now. Feb 05 06:02:12 if not, that's fine Feb 05 06:02:27 that's cool. yea. moving is fuuuun :) Feb 05 06:03:18 what you working on macman_? Feb 05 06:06:26 what is the best way to have a RSS feed display in Ares? Feb 05 06:06:36 or use webview. Feb 05 06:06:51 (I could never get a webview to work... lol) Feb 05 06:08:30 I'm fallin asleep lol.. need sleep;) Feb 05 06:08:49 I'll ask 2moro, when more people are on Feb 05 06:08:56 cyall later Feb 05 08:53:30 'evening Adora! Feb 05 08:58:00 welcome haeffb_ Feb 05 09:00:26 haeffb_ was eaten by a cylon :o Feb 05 09:03:43 :o Feb 05 09:03:55 and promptly puked up Feb 05 09:03:58 :o Feb 05 15:34:48 someone who knows hyperspin? Feb 05 15:47:24 Dev-Question: is there any chance to have access to the messages DB (SMS, MMS) with my own application? Feb 05 15:48:06 homebrew? Feb 05 15:48:46 nope, I want to develop an app and need to have access to the messages (SMS, MMS) Feb 05 15:49:04 in later state, I want to publish the app Feb 05 15:49:48 any idea about api feature to access the received sms, send new once and so on...? havent found anything.. Feb 05 16:54:14 hi Feb 05 16:56:46 hi Feb 05 17:07:23 hi guys Feb 05 17:09:08 i'm having some problems with PDL_SetFirewallPortStatus returning error 2 (PDL_ECONNECTION) any ideas? Feb 05 17:14:04 why oh why can't palm use paypal as payments Feb 05 17:15:48 anyone here? Feb 05 17:27:12 Hi All Feb 05 17:27:15 i'm having some problems with PDL_SetFirewallPortStatus returning error 2 (PDL_ECONNECTION) any ideas? Feb 05 17:29:41 avner, we saw ya the first time ;) Feb 05 17:30:04 lol Feb 05 17:30:05 matbee - in catalog you mean? Feb 05 17:30:10 yeah Feb 05 17:30:45 avner, I personally have no clue, but I can say that it sometimes takes a while for people to see a question and respond, so the longer you wait the higher your chances of an answer gets :) Feb 05 17:32:25 destinal here Feb 05 17:38:27 i had a few communication issues and i was not sure the message went through Feb 05 17:44:29 its dead Feb 05 17:56:10 ugh Feb 05 17:56:16 i hope they ship my pre Feb 05 17:56:23 .. i ordered it last night Feb 05 18:02:02 you bought a pre 2? Feb 05 18:04:15 nope .. cant .. i been without a phone for a week .. all my family has been trying to get a hold of me plus wife Feb 05 18:04:18 i had to get palm pre plus Feb 05 18:04:20 oh well Feb 05 18:05:13 ah Feb 05 18:05:25 i would have waited but people need me Feb 05 18:05:26 lol Feb 05 18:05:28 why not just pick one up from craigslist Feb 05 18:05:39 you can get them dirt cheap Feb 05 18:08:04 im on ATT Feb 05 18:09:22 Why not wait for what they're announcing on Feb 9th?.. Feb 05 18:09:31 connorlacombe lol Feb 05 18:09:36 Oh, just read a little further.. :P Feb 05 18:09:41 lol Feb 05 18:09:48 i wish i could Feb 05 18:10:00 but o well.. palm pre plus should be able to update to webos 2.0 right ? Feb 05 18:10:07 eventually ? Feb 05 18:10:24 all devices should, "in coming months"... Feb 05 18:10:27 lol Feb 05 18:10:36 i can't belive i ordered the pre Feb 05 18:10:37 lol Feb 05 18:10:44 i went from blackberry / iphone / android now palm Feb 05 18:10:51 Josef_B, yeah itll update just fine Feb 05 18:11:02 I went pre > android > pre > blackberry Feb 05 18:11:02 :/ Feb 05 18:11:16 I went from WinMo to Pre Feb 05 18:11:16 woot Feb 05 18:11:21 If only the Pre 2 worked on Sprint, I'd still be on my pre Feb 05 18:11:39 200MBs of data on AT&T prepaid just doesn't cut it. Feb 05 18:11:42 I converted my iphone/blackberry friends to android since palm can't put out decent hardware Feb 05 18:15:15 i went from non-smartphone -> helio ocean -> htc mogul -> palm pre Feb 05 18:19:34 dam Feb 05 18:19:53 the mogul died on 7/27/09 same day as the bestbuy price mistake Feb 05 18:19:57 i was in luck :) Feb 05 18:20:10 matbee you have a pre ? Feb 05 18:32:03 ugh Feb 05 18:32:09 i wonder if ATT ships on saturdays Feb 05 19:01:27 Question .. there an app that backs up sms / phone numbers (call logs) to gmail onthe pre ? Feb 05 19:01:57 s/onthe/on the Feb 05 19:02:08 nope Feb 05 19:02:17 gayness Feb 05 19:02:18 oh well Feb 05 19:02:22 make one! Feb 05 19:02:23 write it Feb 05 19:02:42 if i could program i would make one but i can't so not tha big of a deal Feb 05 19:02:55 * sugardave can't program either. Feb 05 19:03:05 * oil lols Feb 05 19:03:27 * Josef_B is watching ces 2009 palm pre Feb 05 19:03:36 aw Feb 05 19:03:53 too bad it took soo long for it to come out after that Feb 05 19:03:58 I'm picking up where I left off in the Blender tutorial...my gingerbread man is blocky/scary Feb 05 19:04:09 and it came out without the sdk being released to everyone Feb 05 19:04:16 ah, good times Feb 05 19:19:03 wow Feb 05 19:19:14 you first gen pre owners had it ruff eh ? Feb 05 19:19:25 haha Feb 05 19:20:46 * sugardave remembers having to put openSSH on the phone to copy source files around. Feb 05 19:23:38 Josef_B: how long do you have to return the pre+ to AT&T? Feb 05 19:24:08 maybe there will be a new webOS phone on AT&T within 30 days...? Feb 05 19:24:09 nw: First Look at Enyo, Next-Generation webOS App Framework Feb 05 19:27:41 link? Feb 05 19:27:48 actually Feb 05 19:28:06 the reason why i ever thought of getting a pre was way back in the day when sprint came up with the sprint commerical for the pre Feb 05 19:28:35 sugardave: probably from devdayNYC Feb 05 19:28:57 oh :s Feb 05 19:29:54 sugardave: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsZX2dJW5Ss&feature=channel Feb 05 19:31:58 * oil remembers it :) Feb 05 19:32:15 leiru: thanks, I was there :D Feb 05 19:35:38 i can't wait to get my pre Feb 05 19:35:55 i was fasinated when my brother in law had a palm pre .. he was on sprint Feb 05 19:37:17 wow i am pretty interested in enyo. it looks great. Feb 05 19:37:30 anyone knows when it will be released? Feb 05 19:37:45 no idea Feb 05 19:38:20 the big parts of it are the resolution independence stuff, so probably after a device would need it ;p Feb 05 19:38:58 maybe @ think beyond, feb 09 Feb 05 19:42:01 Hopefully. Feb 05 19:44:06 is this chan the offical palm/webos irc channel ? Feb 05 19:44:13 (for devs) Feb 05 19:47:53 Josef_B: look @ topic Feb 05 19:48:18 it says: Unofficial discussion | http: [...] Feb 05 19:48:24 k Feb 05 19:48:27 didn't see topic Feb 05 19:48:36 there it is Feb 05 19:48:48 /topic Feb 05 19:48:56 shows it to you Feb 05 19:49:09 leiru im not on a linux box atm Feb 05 19:49:17 so /topic in mirc won't show it Feb 05 19:50:32 yesterday i gave a presentation about webOS-App with demo of an existing iPhone app ported to webOS in my mobile company. Feb 05 19:50:32 man, I really want to play with Enyo now Feb 05 19:50:59 i was so jumpy Feb 05 19:51:38 Josef_B: it hasn't to do with your OS. just try it in your client Feb 05 19:54:39 i have many times Feb 05 19:54:47 ./topic does nothing Feb 05 19:54:55 in irssi i can type /topic and i see the topic Feb 05 19:55:06 ./topic shows this Feb 05 19:55:08 TOPIC Not enough parameters Feb 05 19:55:17 Feed it the channel name? :p Feb 05 19:55:48 meh Feb 05 19:55:56 on irssi i can just type /topic Feb 05 19:56:00 ./topic #webos worked Feb 05 19:56:03 tanks :D Feb 05 19:56:05 magic Feb 05 19:56:09 s/tanks/thanks Feb 05 20:15:57 evening Feb 05 20:20:27 hey Feb 05 20:30:11 OIL] Feb 05 20:30:14 OIL Feb 05 20:30:19 ? Feb 05 20:30:36 did you get your device activated? Feb 05 20:30:43 nope Feb 05 20:30:49 heh Feb 05 20:30:50 imma try it again Feb 05 20:30:51 whats going on ? Feb 05 20:31:28 oil you can't activate your pre ? Feb 05 20:31:37 pre2 on sprint Feb 05 20:31:42 oh nice Feb 05 20:32:08 i could make calls Feb 05 20:32:13 but not get past the activation screen Feb 05 20:32:15 no evdo Feb 05 20:32:22 that sucks Feb 05 20:32:28 did you ask sprint for that one code ? Feb 05 20:32:33 i forgot what its called Feb 05 20:32:47 you dont need it Feb 05 20:33:02 what am i looking for .. whats the name of the code ? Feb 05 20:33:03 sprnt needs to register the com boards esn Feb 05 20:33:11 msn code Feb 05 20:33:15 yea that Feb 05 20:33:23 but you dont nees it Feb 05 20:33:41 ive had a sprint pre 2 since early jan Feb 05 20:33:41 ATT said my phone won't get to me till monday Feb 05 20:33:42 this sucks Feb 05 20:34:06 eh i think you made a mistake wasting an upgrade on a pre Feb 05 20:34:18 naw Feb 05 20:34:19 its fine Feb 05 20:34:24 :D Feb 05 20:34:32 what ever Feb 05 20:34:35 lol Feb 05 20:34:42 get married CTLAdvance its all politics Feb 05 20:34:47 i am Feb 05 20:34:51 aw Feb 05 20:34:53 ok Feb 05 20:34:55 how many kids you got Feb 05 20:35:02 2 Feb 05 20:35:11 apartment or you got a mortage ? Feb 05 20:35:17 mort Feb 05 20:35:21 aw ok Feb 05 20:35:37 how much did you shell out for the pre2 CTLAdvance ? Feb 05 20:36:00 what ever the coupon wouldnt cover Feb 05 20:36:10 arm and a leg ? Feb 05 20:36:19 just some toes Feb 05 20:36:22 lol Feb 05 20:36:37 but the best thing is I am still able to get another device cheaply on contract now Feb 05 20:36:42 i hate ordering shit on fridays or thrusdays Feb 05 20:36:43 0_o Feb 05 20:36:58 yeah, i know it Feb 05 20:37:05 its like ordering from ebay Feb 05 20:37:09 you will see it when you see it Feb 05 20:38:08 Josef_B you need to turn your phones into a money making device and you wont have any arguements from the wife Feb 05 20:38:23 and if she says she wants it all, then you dont tell her about how much you have Feb 05 20:38:29 grubben bitch Feb 05 20:38:32 er Feb 05 20:38:36 lol Feb 05 20:38:52 what do you mean turn it into a money making device .. i currently work at at call center from home Feb 05 20:38:52 :D Feb 05 20:39:03 But srsly, wife doesnt like me buying phones... so I made them start paying for themselves Feb 05 20:39:12 CTLAdvance how ? Feb 05 20:39:14 start making apps Feb 05 20:39:14 apps Feb 05 20:39:21 aw Feb 05 20:39:25 but i can't program Feb 05 20:39:45 I brought the first fart app to webOS, and havent looked back since Feb 05 20:39:50 * CTLAdvance grin Feb 05 20:40:00 CTLAdvance whats the app name ? Feb 05 20:40:07 webs fart app ? Feb 05 20:40:08 do i google that Feb 05 20:40:20 hay guys Feb 05 20:40:39 CTLAdvance whats the app name Feb 05 20:40:43 Josef_B: I can't program, either Feb 05 20:40:44 if i could program i would be making apps Feb 05 20:40:51 sugardave you have an app out there also ? Feb 05 20:40:56 Well the first one was homebrew, Gass Passer for WebOS, had over 40k downloads in a couple days Feb 05 20:41:07 what's the best way to display a mobile website using an app built in ares? Feb 05 20:41:14 what we talking about? Feb 05 20:41:18 Josef_B: sure, Mind Master, BOFH Excuse Generator, Yule Log, and Scan Do! Feb 05 20:41:27 Do that YULE Feb 05 20:41:45 sugardave how did you make it if you can't code ? Feb 05 20:41:57 Mojo magic Feb 05 20:42:04 sugardave can code circles around me :p Feb 05 20:42:09 sugardave: ares? Feb 05 20:42:17 seriously, I knew 0 when I started, learned javascript/html/css all for Mojo Feb 05 20:42:21 no Ares Feb 05 20:42:24 it didn't exist yet Feb 05 20:42:35 how did you learn javascript? Feb 05 20:42:53 well i do work from home Feb 05 20:42:55 i can start somewhere Feb 05 20:42:57 bugged people in here, read tutorials/w3schools, read Prototype docs Feb 05 20:42:57 0_o Feb 05 20:43:05 Josef_B: that's my situation Feb 05 20:43:18 I still know 0, and you have taken W3 some.. and use ares Feb 05 20:43:18 yeah sugar dave has been here since the stone age Feb 05 20:43:25 lol Feb 05 20:43:34 I"m OG, baby Feb 05 20:43:34 http://www.blastro.com/player/souljaboytellemcrankthatsouljaboy.html?1=1&utm_source=live&utm_medium=rss&detect_bitrate=_2000 Feb 05 20:44:15 if I don't respond, I'm doin dishes lol Feb 05 20:44:19 brb Feb 05 20:45:36 omg, I hope we get enyo early access news on the 9th Feb 05 20:45:39 something Feb 05 20:47:18 sugardave where do i start then making apps .. or what guides Feb 05 20:47:47 Josef_B use ares to start Feb 05 20:47:54 and hello world tutorial Feb 05 20:48:19 Josef_B: I guess Ares is the go-to starting place now....Enyo will probably leverage it heavily Feb 05 20:48:31 unfortunately, the docs on Ares are even worse than the docs on Mojo :P Feb 05 20:49:02 the docs on ares helped me a lot Feb 05 20:49:11 so what do i do ? Feb 05 20:49:11 interesting Feb 05 20:49:21 Josef_B: first you need to get the SDK Feb 05 20:49:26 i have it Feb 05 20:49:29 im on emulator Feb 05 20:49:46 and then decide if you want the eay "Ares does it for me" way or the more in-depth "I do it myself" way Feb 05 20:50:22 if you go the latter, you could get Eclipse and the webOS plugin for it Feb 05 20:50:34 all i have is the palm folder .. webos sdk and webos pdk Feb 05 20:51:03 k, well you don't have to have it...the palm- commands are sufficient for messing around Feb 05 20:51:17 look up information on palm-generate, palm-install, palm-launch Feb 05 20:51:28 palm-generate will create a new directory structure for your app Feb 05 20:51:40 and then you write code Feb 05 20:51:48 there's a bunch of tutorials i wrote to create an app from scratch Feb 05 20:52:01 palm-package to bundle it/send to emu or device Feb 05 20:52:06 er bundle it Feb 05 20:52:16 palm-install to send it to emu/device Feb 05 20:52:24 then palm-launch to run it Feb 05 20:52:32 swisstomcat: give the man some links! :D Feb 05 20:52:40 http://thinmachine.ch/wordpress/?p=45 Feb 05 20:52:41 lol Feb 05 20:53:39 Josef_B: then go to developer.palm.com and read up on the app basics section, especially application lifecycle Feb 05 20:54:32 Josef_B: there is also http://www.webos101.com/ where there are snippets and examples you can use Feb 05 20:55:00 yeah Feb 05 20:55:12 are there some ares tutorias? Feb 05 20:55:16 tutorials? Feb 05 20:55:22 maybe? Feb 05 20:55:25 :) Feb 05 20:55:28 use the forums. they are a ton of help! Feb 05 20:55:38 and irc Feb 05 20:55:47 that helped me a ton Feb 05 20:55:51 ares is awesome! I can help him with ares if he needs it Feb 05 20:55:53 e.g sugardave Feb 05 20:55:59 haeffb_ can answer ALL your questions Feb 05 20:56:11 yeah, haeffb too Feb 05 20:57:11 hea, haeffb_ Feb 05 20:57:34 halfhalo as well, and rwhitby too Feb 05 20:57:40 oil is the master! lol Feb 05 20:57:52 psh Feb 05 20:57:56 lol Feb 05 20:57:58 yeah, psh Feb 05 20:58:31 Chuq can answer anything you throw at him Feb 05 20:58:36 Josef_B: and if something breaks and/or doesn't work as you expect, just spin the Wheel O' Blame: http://twitpic.com/3whmja Feb 05 20:58:43 gah Feb 05 20:58:54 though his usual response is (in the coming moths, or I don't know) Feb 05 20:58:55 lol Feb 05 20:59:34 or 'look, a puppy' Feb 05 20:59:41 the wheel o' blame looks like it works Feb 05 20:59:52 chuq is the community manager at palm Feb 05 20:59:55 or "I know nothing, I see nothing" Feb 05 21:00:04 and an awesome person lol Feb 05 21:00:13 * PatrickC_Pre checks to see if chuq is on Feb 05 21:00:34 if you're lucky, you might even see an engineer sneaking around Feb 05 21:00:40 nope, we can all stop trying to butter him up Feb 05 21:00:57 he's not on, so he can't leak anything... lol Feb 05 21:01:14 the engineers make bugs to mess with us.. lol Feb 05 21:02:10 like the bug with the paid download numbers :-/ Feb 05 21:02:14 haha Feb 05 21:02:23 brb Feb 05 21:04:43 mah Feb 05 21:04:55 i get the yellow sign of death again in german app catalogue Feb 05 21:05:05 *sigh* Feb 05 21:05:06 mist Feb 05 21:05:26 a.k.a stinkeder haufen Feb 05 21:05:28 stinkender Feb 05 21:09:10 hi swisstomcat Feb 05 21:09:12 the app catalog still shows "keine anwendungen gefunden" on the first two pages Feb 05 21:09:17 on webos 2.0 Feb 05 21:09:23 something they should fix at some point Feb 05 21:09:38 maybe you should post @ forums too. Feb 05 21:09:58 i've posted and twittered Feb 05 21:10:00 nothing happened Feb 05 21:10:19 hmpf Feb 05 21:11:02 in the meantime, i get a froson 2011 app running... Feb 05 21:11:04 *boredÜ Feb 05 21:11:11 froson? Feb 05 21:11:22 *froscon Feb 05 21:11:23 sorry Feb 05 21:11:34 http://www.froscon.de/ Feb 05 21:11:36 based on the fosdem one? Feb 05 21:11:40 will you be there, too? Feb 05 21:12:01 tomcat is everywhere Feb 05 21:12:08 yep Feb 05 21:12:20 i try :) Feb 05 21:12:38 depends how far away froscon is Feb 05 21:12:39 who's goin to the event on the 9th Feb 05 21:12:57 * oil wishes Feb 05 21:13:43 * PatrickC_Pre same here Feb 05 21:13:50 gonna watch the live tweets? Feb 05 21:13:55 swisstomcat: it's hosted near bonn, germany Feb 05 21:14:39 yeah, that might be possible Feb 05 21:14:50 a bit more than 6 hours by train Feb 05 21:14:51 what's the best way to display a blog? Feb 05 21:14:55 rss or webview? Feb 05 21:15:05 interested in having an webos-internals stand or webos workshop there? Feb 05 21:15:11 using an app.. Feb 05 21:15:18 my hand is too big to get any more pringles out of the can... Feb 05 21:15:29 patrickc: i've used rss Feb 05 21:15:37 oil: shake em out Feb 05 21:16:01 lol Feb 05 21:16:19 ok. I can't get RSS to work in ares... how do I get it to display? Feb 05 21:16:40 i think there's an example in the ares forum Feb 05 21:16:45 (developer.palm.com) Feb 05 21:16:50 * oil brb Feb 05 21:16:53 swisstomcat: don't know, just ask them. i will just be visitor. Feb 05 21:17:07 leiru: will do Feb 05 21:17:28 I'll take a look in a few Feb 05 21:18:59 oil: solution: larger Pringles Feb 05 21:19:06 I think you could make a killing Feb 05 21:19:16 I would buy them Feb 05 21:19:30 but then people would get fatter, and need even larger pringles :p Feb 05 21:19:40 that is the beauty of the plan Feb 05 21:19:47 it's like cigarettes Feb 05 21:19:48 lol Feb 05 21:19:49 and death Feb 05 21:20:05 create industries that will always provide demand Feb 05 21:20:05 or beer Feb 05 22:49:00 w00t Feb 05 22:49:01 good news Feb 05 22:49:49 http://www.fedex.com/Tracking?cntry_code=us&tracknumber_list=477129964282&language=english Feb 05 22:50:23 palmpad? Feb 05 22:50:31 heh Feb 05 22:50:33 palm pre plus Feb 05 22:51:07 nice Feb 05 22:51:40 why would somebody pick the pixi over plus or pre .. keyboard ? the screen is so small Feb 05 22:51:53 pixi is nice Feb 05 22:51:58 depends what you want Feb 05 22:51:59 its small Feb 05 22:52:15 maybe that's the point for some Feb 05 22:52:27 thats what she said Feb 05 22:52:28 some people don't like sliding keyboards Feb 05 22:52:53 true Feb 05 22:53:08 so Feb 05 22:53:12 do i wipe it when i get it first Feb 05 22:53:16 or just install preware and go Feb 05 22:57:56 can you overclock pre plus ? Feb 05 23:08:17 yes Feb 05 23:43:12 suckers Feb 05 23:43:25 who's making themes? http://j.mp/fDf4KM Feb 05 23:48:06 how do you guys rate from 1-10 apps opening up on the palm pre plus ? Feb 05 23:48:56 its already in the mail so i can't back out lol .. a lot of youtbue vidoes show the opening speeds lag Feb 05 23:52:02 ? Feb 05 23:53:02 I have no idea what you mean Feb 05 23:53:27 ok so on a lot of youtube vidoes there cons where .. that it takes a while for an app to launch when you click on it Feb 05 23:53:39 some apps do.some apps don't. Feb 05 23:53:43 from a number 1-10 10 being fast .. what would you rate the apps or an app opening on the pre Feb 05 23:53:51 the pre plus is relatively slow. helps if you overclock it. Feb 05 23:55:19 leave the apps open ;) Feb 05 23:55:55 when you close them you actually close them, that's why noone has made a webos taskkiller type of app Feb 05 23:58:18 hmm Feb 05 23:58:24 very good obervation Feb 05 23:58:25 :D Feb 06 00:34:59 Loudergood, theres jstop Feb 06 00:39:41 everyone ready for the flood of people that'll hopefully come after the 9th? :) Feb 06 00:40:27 RagingMind let me unbox mine first and i will be happy Feb 06 00:40:28 :D Feb 06 00:40:43 i heard that the palm pre plus or palm pre was sown and 6 month later it came out Feb 06 00:40:45 thats very sad **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Feb 06 02:59:57 2011