**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Feb 23 02:59:56 2011 Feb 23 03:00:07 i have a pre 2 what do you want to know? Feb 23 03:00:14 had it since november... Feb 23 03:01:17 oil: sweet :) Feb 23 03:02:43 SuperDan311: AjaxRequest(...) Feb 23 03:03:11 Hmmm... Feb 23 03:03:36 webview widget Feb 23 03:03:54 or webview widget Feb 23 03:04:05 if you just want to view the web site... Feb 23 03:04:10 i like it... but dont get it.... Feb 23 03:04:17 noob alert... Feb 23 03:04:29 http://www.prototypejs.org/api/ajax/request Feb 23 03:04:46 so, are you wanting help building an app, or are you wanting someone to build it for you? Feb 23 03:07:32 i could go either way... i want to learn but it is a massive time commitment considering my current level of knowledge... i mean this stuff is all "greek" to me... I am checking out the link you just sent me, and well it helps but i gotta learn the preReqs first... Sorry guys... Feb 23 03:10:16 hypothetically how much would one charge per hour/app? obviously it would be different for each person i imagine... but what i am would like to create is nothing overly elaborate... i just want it to be clean etc... I can do all the visuals and content... is it the coding where i get lost Feb 23 03:20:20 alrighty then... Feb 23 03:20:54 sorry, off doing something else. Feb 23 03:21:07 sugardave: ping Feb 23 03:21:56 SuperDan311: do you have a link to the website you're wanting to "appify"? Feb 23 03:23:15 not so much... but you can check out a PDF of the newsletter http://web.me.com/idoitkid/palmstarz/PalmStarz/webOS_Newsletter_files/HP%20webOS%20Jan.%202011%20Newsletter.pdf Feb 23 03:24:06 palmstarz.com was a very basic website i put together using iweb... just to get something up there... but i never really developed the site any further... Feb 23 03:28:00 basically the most of the newsletter info is already available via precentral.net or webosroundup... and the webosroundup app is a good example of what i would like to achieve... but more for sales reps/field reps... Feb 23 03:29:56 i have a pretty clear vision on what i would like to achieve... but getting that out of my head and into code is where i fail Feb 23 03:31:58 so where would the app get the info? Feb 23 03:32:48 in theory i would update it on a website or whatever and have the app pull it from there... Feb 23 03:33:43 just experimenting in ares... i made a 3 buttons that could be links to this content... but it is pretty crappy... Feb 23 03:34:39 but if they were basically monthly blog like posting a user could go back in time to see past updates/tips and tricks/news/ etc... Feb 23 03:35:49 i mean how does the weboscentral app work or for that matter the engadget app work? all they do is reformat the standard web based content for the webOS app/screen Feb 23 03:36:56 i will be checking out some lynda.com tutorials to help educate myself... but man it is gonna be a long journey it feels... Feb 23 03:54:10 yo! Feb 23 04:19:28 SineOt: hey i'm going to try to put together a slydial chain-dialler while we await their response, if you don't object Feb 23 04:20:14 objections: none Feb 23 04:21:53 no 2.1 update for US pre2s? Feb 23 04:21:58 suckorz Feb 23 04:22:13 I was hoping for a webos doctor upgrade even if It means losing everything on the device Feb 23 04:22:17 2.0.1 is driving me nuts Feb 23 04:22:22 hello Feb 23 04:22:25 what's up? Feb 23 04:22:26 just found out today that it still doesn't have voice dialing! Feb 23 04:22:28 sup PatrickC_Pre Feb 23 04:22:36 nm Feb 23 04:22:48 doing homework :/ Feb 23 04:22:52 lol, nice Feb 23 04:22:56 and maybe some coding to :D Feb 23 04:23:01 yep Feb 23 04:23:25 Im studying a bit on pre development, its not at all like android, and I kind of like it Feb 23 04:23:26 :) Feb 23 04:23:40 I'm thinking of becoming an android dev Feb 23 04:23:45 how hard is it? Feb 23 04:23:52 if you know java, its easy as pie Feb 23 04:24:07 I know *some* js :) Feb 23 04:24:13 UI work is either handled procedurally, or using xml Feb 23 04:24:18 i'd assume that google fixed some of the issues for java in android Feb 23 04:24:26 everything else is pretty much standard java + the android sdk Feb 23 04:24:27 i mean it's java in syntax only from what i could read Feb 23 04:24:37 lets talk via PM so as to not clutter the channel with android speak :p Feb 23 04:24:38 inherit your activity class and blam Feb 23 04:24:51 lol Feb 23 04:25:06 gimme a few minutes, gonna walk the dog, then Ill jump on my tablet and chat a bit before bed Feb 23 04:25:07 brb Feb 23 04:25:24 ok Feb 23 04:36:39 sugardave: can I claim Leafly as a rudderSQUISH app? me and OrithmaFelus have some awesome ideas for it... :p Feb 23 04:37:27 ugh wow i'm tired Feb 23 04:37:54 * PatrickC_Pre is mad at Apple Feb 23 04:38:07 what for Feb 23 04:38:24 I can't "legally" install OS X on a PC Feb 23 04:38:35 yeah, but it can be done Feb 23 04:39:02 but it would be for a church, and I don't want to do it if it is still illegal, just because Feb 23 04:39:24 ah, what are they wanting to do exactly Feb 23 04:39:41 play their radio station Feb 23 04:39:52 they are going too stream it via Shoutcast Feb 23 04:40:54 i love shoutcast Feb 23 04:41:02 I have the webOS one finished, next I'm going to work on the BBerry one, then an Android one Feb 23 04:41:02 sorry to butt in :3 Feb 23 04:41:06 I do too lol Feb 23 04:41:18 dumbledore_ any luck with 2.1 on pixi? Feb 23 04:41:24 nah Feb 23 04:41:27 will work on it tomorrow Feb 23 04:41:31 ok Feb 23 04:41:40 lemme know the progress :D Feb 23 04:41:43 ok :D Feb 23 04:41:47 I'm anxious lol Feb 23 04:42:02 im pretty sure it only might get to the bootscreen only :P Feb 23 04:42:05 I'm sure webOS Internals would be thrilled if you got that working lol Feb 23 04:42:06 you can setup a shoutcast server without osx Feb 23 04:42:16 ^ Feb 23 04:42:16 damn when did youtube get all these commercials! gah Feb 23 04:42:23 but I can't code a iOS app without OSX Feb 23 04:42:29 ajay: i know! its annoying lol Feb 23 04:42:47 ummm, i think you can with a version of adobe flash, or using monotouch Feb 23 04:42:53 the only thing i hate about shoutcast and pandora app, is that you dont have the option to insert your own streaming url Feb 23 04:42:58 or you can even do a web app that will play in the background Feb 23 04:43:55 I know how to code it (Using Titanium) but I can't test it or package it without OSX Feb 23 04:44:53 but I can't code a iOS app without OSX Feb 23 04:44:58 well, that's not quite true, but it generally is Feb 23 04:44:59 anyway Feb 23 04:45:07 well, legally Feb 23 04:45:21 In Mojo: what's the best way to attach an event handler to a random div? Feb 23 04:45:25 PatrickC_Pre: no, perfectly legal Feb 23 04:45:32 how then? Feb 23 04:45:43 http://code.google.com/p/iphonedevonlinux/ Feb 23 04:45:50 easy shell script to set it all up Feb 23 04:45:51 I run windows Feb 23 04:46:00 http://ubuntu.com/ Feb 23 04:46:07 you can fix that issue, too! :D Feb 23 04:46:08 anyway Feb 23 04:46:22 my computer can't handle Ubuntu (looked at it already) Feb 23 04:46:22 Ubuntu is great Feb 23 04:46:25 :( Feb 23 04:46:39 * vigilant007 scratches his head Feb 23 04:46:41 PatrickC_Pre: get Xubuntu Feb 23 04:46:44 what version of Windows are you using Feb 23 04:46:50 168 MB RAM Feb 23 04:46:55 XP Pro Feb 23 04:47:13 ... Feb 23 04:47:16 PatrickC_Pre: with those kind of specs you should try that iphonedevonlinux script on your Pre. :P Feb 23 04:47:17 wow, ummm Feb 23 04:47:19 :/ Feb 23 04:47:24 yea I know Feb 23 04:47:26 lol Feb 23 04:47:27 it's probably faster :| Feb 23 04:47:32 yea..... Feb 23 04:47:34 yeah, i hate to say it man, but my iPad has better specs Feb 23 04:47:42 the laptop used to have Windows Me Feb 23 04:47:51 my Pixi has better specs :p Feb 23 04:47:55 what were you going to install OSX on Feb 23 04:47:57 lol Feb 23 04:47:58 pat: back Feb 23 04:48:08 this got lost somewhere in there: In Mojo: what's the best way to attach an event handler to a random div? Feb 23 04:48:14 nothing, as it is illegal Feb 23 04:48:16 (or is there a better webos dev channel?) Feb 23 04:48:24 this is the best :) Feb 23 04:48:32 Xuzz: I think there's a post on webos101.com on how to do that Feb 23 04:48:56 right, but if you had SOMETHING in mind, then install Ubuntu on it and use the iPhoneDevOnLinux tools. your XP machine surely wouldn't run OSX, so you must have something else laying around right Feb 23 04:49:20 i mean heck, if you're willing to pay for shipping i've got a Penium IV here that supports 2GB of memory that i'll give ya Feb 23 04:49:58 I have a computer downstairs running Windows 7 x64 with 4GB RAM and 2TB HAD :) Feb 23 04:50:02 SineOt: I'll look, thanks. Feb 23 04:50:05 *HDD* Feb 23 04:50:21 well, then put ubuntu in a VM Feb 23 04:50:23 then why not put Ubuntu on that Feb 23 04:50:28 agreed Feb 23 04:50:30 or install it (preferably) Feb 23 04:50:42 most everything can be settled with... "because he's PatrickC_Pre" :p Feb 23 04:50:48 lol Feb 23 04:50:48 my dad doesn't want Ubuntu on it :'( Feb 23 04:50:51 i'll tell ya, on developing for mobile you want to get as far away from Windows as possible Feb 23 04:51:00 sineot has copyrighted that saying Feb 23 04:51:07 PatrickC_Pre: VirtualBox: you already have it installed with the webOS SDK Feb 23 04:51:09 I know.. I know :( Feb 23 04:51:28 exactly xuzz Feb 23 04:51:28 well, he might let me once I'm caught up in school..... Feb 23 04:51:59 focus on school buddy, building shoutcast apps can wait, infact i'm pretty sure theres all ready options for people that want to put in custom urls Feb 23 04:52:38 I'm going to get caught up on school, then maybe put ubuntu in a VBox Feb 23 04:53:01 *nix is your friend Feb 23 04:54:05 * PatrickC_Pre is trying to figure out how to get a button to open a webpage using JS Feb 23 04:55:23 in mojo? Feb 23 04:55:58 yes Feb 23 04:56:18 but I'm actually looking for myself :) and not begging someone to code it for me lol Feb 23 04:58:38 lol Feb 23 04:59:04 I'm willing to bet that soon Javascript will replace Visual Basic as the beginners programming language in most colleges Feb 23 04:59:08 woot! you go PatrickC_Pre !!! Feb 23 05:00:01 I don't know Visual Basic :p Feb 23 05:00:17 and... lol haeffb_pre Feb 23 05:00:38 when i was in school they taught vb6 and then vb.net for beginner classes Feb 23 05:00:51 they were discussing getting rid of it when i left Feb 23 05:01:04 putting ubuntu in vbox = good move Feb 23 05:02:38 what more can Ubuntu do then windows to help me with webOS development? Feb 23 05:04:10 metadoc Feb 23 05:04:48 I don't really have a use for metadoc, unless I can 2.1ify my Pixi Feb 23 05:05:04 everyone has a use for metadoc! I've been using it for months.. :) Feb 23 05:05:35 what else are they good for? Feb 23 05:05:56 yeah, after using Metadoc I'm seeing just how useful it is Feb 23 05:06:28 what else can it do? lol Feb 23 05:06:58 I thought it was only for making doctors? why would I need to do that when I have a perfectly good doctor from HP? Feb 23 05:07:03 yea ... comment all the stuff in your makefile that you want :) Feb 23 05:07:24 s/comment/uncomment Feb 23 05:07:33 because you can make a doctor that has preware already installed, testing feeds already enabled, etc Feb 23 05:07:43 yep Feb 23 05:07:44 PatrickC_Pre: I've been using it to make a BETTER doctor.. preware installed (w/ testing), dev mode at get-go Feb 23 05:07:45 damn Feb 23 05:07:57 awesome! Feb 23 05:08:04 I might have to start using metadoc.... Feb 23 05:08:08 (and disable uploadd) as well as increased /var, custom bootie theme, etc Feb 23 05:08:29 most of these things can be done AFTER doctor, but damn, you're going to spend a whole lot more effort! Feb 23 05:08:31 I gotta tell ya, i'm an iOS user, but i've been incredibly tempted to get a Pre3 and a TouchPad so I can mess with the easily hackable webos Feb 23 05:09:24 stacks > ios Feb 23 05:09:39 naa. stacks is too good for apple Feb 23 05:09:46 whenever i have an iphone in my hand, i try to back-gesture Feb 23 05:09:53 oil: soon, you will Feb 23 05:10:05 and then realize i have to reach up to the top of the screen to hit the back button Feb 23 05:10:06 iOS has a lot of really well thought out things Feb 23 05:10:07 anybody around here live near Palm HQ? Feb 23 05:10:15 I try to back-gesture on BBerry, Android, and iOS Feb 23 05:10:29 yeah, the gesture stuff is coming you can do some of it now with 4.3 beta Feb 23 05:10:34 ajay: do I know you? Feb 23 05:10:35 :p Feb 23 05:10:40 vigilant: like their "multitasking" xD Feb 23 05:10:42 the really impressive stuff is full hand gestures on ipad with 4.3 Feb 23 05:10:51 Unrelated question: how do you stop all tap events in a Scene? Feb 23 05:11:10 like, when this is happening, I want to silently ignore *all* events. Feb 23 05:11:11 Xuzz: I doubt it! but i take that as a yes? Feb 23 05:11:19 ajay: probably not :p Feb 23 05:11:40 Xuzz: I mean, I take it you live near PalmHQ? Feb 23 05:11:46 no Feb 23 05:11:51 well, depending what "close" means Feb 23 05:11:53 I'm in SF. Feb 23 05:11:57 oil: multitasking isn't perfect, but it's continuously evolving, and does a really good job of maintaining battery life. I can get a full day of battery life out of my phone, including game time, and using the mobile hotspot, and sever multi-hour calls Feb 23 05:12:14 Xuzz: hmm.. maybe that's close.. if there were a Silicon Valley webOS meetup, would you come? Feb 23 05:12:26 ajay: depending, as I don't even own a webOS device. Feb 23 05:12:30 oh, haha Feb 23 05:12:45 I'm porting a lame iPhone app I made a while ago, though. Feb 23 05:12:47 to learn Feb 23 05:12:51 nice! Feb 23 05:12:53 maybe then I'll get one Feb 23 05:12:58 def Feb 23 05:13:03 you could get one off ebay for cheap xD Feb 23 05:13:11 craigslist would be cheaper Feb 23 05:13:14 i'd wait Feb 23 05:13:18 well, if you wanna get robbed Feb 23 05:13:19 i want a touchpad :p Feb 23 05:13:20 in an alley Feb 23 05:13:28 the touch pad is very impressive Feb 23 05:13:30 and so is the pre3 Feb 23 05:13:32 that's how i roll Feb 23 05:13:45 but i want a damn onscreen keyboard on the pre3 instead of the slider keyboard Feb 23 05:13:55 * ajay has NEVER had a problem with craigslist products Feb 23 05:13:55 so, uh Feb 23 05:14:00 Unrelated question: how do you stop all tap events in a Scene? Feb 23 05:14:01 :P Feb 23 05:14:06 I bought a VzPre2 and a VzBB from this dude for $60 once! sweet Feb 23 05:14:14 s/Pre2/Pre+ Feb 23 05:14:24 lol, i love xuzz insistence Feb 23 05:14:36 i keep asking questions at a bad time :p Feb 23 05:14:48 Xuzz: why? Feb 23 05:14:57 oil: lots of unrelated non-dev discussion Feb 23 05:15:13 no Feb 23 05:15:14 i mean Feb 23 05:15:20 why do you want to stop all tap events xD Feb 23 05:15:21 lol Feb 23 05:15:34 oil: oh, because while this is loading it doesn't make sense to interact with the UI Feb 23 05:15:39 before you can answer that oil, i have somethign completely unrelated that i want to interject Feb 23 05:15:46 put a scrim over it Feb 23 05:15:51 Xuzz: put a scrim on it + loading indicator Feb 23 05:15:52 oil: that's ugly :p Feb 23 05:16:00 * ajay if ya like it then you better put a scrim on it Feb 23 05:16:00 you can custom design your own scrim Feb 23 05:16:08 i mean, im not sure how else you're gonna do it Feb 23 05:16:11 i guess i could do a transparent scrim Feb 23 05:16:15 yeah Feb 23 05:16:16 that works Feb 23 05:16:16 0.0001 opacity :p Feb 23 05:16:21 I'd make it at least PARTIALLY visible Feb 23 05:16:27 so you know it's there Feb 23 05:16:33 eh, this should be fine Feb 23 05:16:34 a scrim tells the user "doing something, hold on!" though Feb 23 05:16:39 where, seeing it, they'll think its broke Feb 23 05:16:43 "why can't i TAP!??!?" Feb 23 05:17:08 "awww yis, fuck the user... fuck the user gooooood." Feb 23 05:17:20 "just tap! Gunna be okay. Duh-duh-duh-duh. Tap... Ju-just tap." Feb 23 05:21:22 haeffb_pre: super-late pong Feb 23 05:22:06 the streaming app takes forever to open on 1.4.5 Feb 23 05:22:56 oil: SineOt: a scrim doesn't cover up the header, though Feb 23 05:23:18 z-index: 9999999; in its css should do it Feb 23 05:23:27 Xuzz: a scrim is just a div, so you could make it do whatever the hell you wanted it to Feb 23 05:23:40 true Feb 23 05:23:50 i keep forgetting this "HTML" thing Feb 23 05:25:49 uh, din din Feb 23 05:26:38 webos101 is of no help for buttons :/ Feb 23 05:26:46 crazy mojo buttons Feb 23 05:27:10 yep Feb 23 05:27:41 I disagree, there is great info on Buttons at webos101 Feb 23 05:27:57 pretty much all you need to get started, really Feb 23 05:28:14 Ajax on webOS: I can POST any URL I want, yeah? Feb 23 05:28:30 well, not how to code the handelUpdate correctly Feb 23 05:28:33 Xuzz: yep Feb 23 05:29:15 lol Feb 23 05:29:19 i wonder if using a html form and .submit() or manually submitting the XMLHTTPRequest of the multipart/form-data is easier Feb 23 05:29:21 nice quit smg Feb 23 05:29:23 (hidden form) Feb 23 05:29:27 msg Feb 23 05:30:15 I brokeded my app.. Feb 23 05:30:28 Xuzz: I don't know anything about multi-part forms, so I can't recommend Feb 23 05:30:29 gg Feb 23 05:33:54 * OrithmaFelus cheers Feb 23 05:34:43 all over a forgotten comma.... Feb 23 05:36:17 I hate it when I forget to include a comma, and the whole thing stops working..... Feb 23 05:38:45 YAY Feb 23 05:38:53 got my app working :) Feb 23 05:39:16 and I de-bugged it myself :) Feb 23 05:39:38 sineot, sugardave, haeffb_pre, thanks for all the help ;) Feb 23 05:40:31 so in my research I found a group of Brown University researchers published an article in the journal of computational linguistics studying 52 hours of chat on #linux Feb 23 05:41:39 http://webos101.com/Code_Snippets#Show_a_scene_only_at_first_run_of_an_app Feb 23 05:41:46 goes in the stage assistant, right? Feb 23 05:47:50 never mind I figured it out Feb 23 06:08:37 well, so far in setting up my prefs, I haven't broken the app... Feb 23 06:17:48 ok, webos101 shows how to set up preferences but not use them... Feb 23 06:19:03 are you doing it with cookies? Feb 23 06:19:38 the Depot? Feb 23 06:19:52 for most stuff doing cookies is easier Feb 23 06:20:07 hmmm. I just followed webos101 Feb 23 06:21:31 so, I should forget the depot? Feb 23 06:21:46 it's up to you Feb 23 06:22:03 cookies are basically dead simple Feb 23 06:22:19 what's a good place to learn about them,? Feb 23 06:22:31 webos101 :p Feb 23 06:22:43 http://webos101.com/Mojo.Cookie Feb 23 06:23:43 lol, shoulda thought of that... lol Feb 23 06:24:03 right now, I'm trying to fix my app menu Feb 23 06:25:38 fixed it :) Feb 23 06:27:44 hmmm. that looks easier :D Feb 23 06:28:09 what's a good place to learn how to make a preferences scene? Feb 23 06:29:44 you build it like any other scene really Feb 23 06:33:36 well, how do I make the toggle buttons toggle things :p Feb 23 06:34:00 you look at the documentation for a toggle button? :I Feb 23 06:35:25 PatrickC_Pre, http://www.weboshelp.net/webos-mojo-development-resources/ui-widget-list/296-togglebutton?catid=43:webos-mojo-ui-widget-list Feb 23 06:35:50 thanks. looking at the toggle button documentation now Feb 23 06:37:21 PatrickC_Pre: if in doubt, check the documentation Feb 23 06:42:44 ok Feb 23 06:45:50 wel. I'm done coding for tonight.. Feb 23 06:45:56 thanks for the help Feb 23 06:51:45 night everyone Feb 23 06:56:50 how do I find my own ass? Feb 23 06:57:11 sugardave: check the documentation! Feb 23 07:01:10 LOL Feb 23 07:01:36 s/wel. I'm done coding for tonight../You guys are done coding tonight... Feb 23 07:02:00 * oil isnt Feb 23 07:02:19 haha Feb 23 07:02:25 I go sleepy time now Feb 23 07:02:45 O_o Feb 23 07:02:51 I really want to take the webos-internals git video and add star wars light sabre sound effects Feb 23 07:03:09 rwhitby obviously being some jedi master or something. Feb 23 07:03:19 do a sound track and I'll overlay it Feb 23 07:03:25 XMLHttpRequest is giving me a status of zero (0) when doing an external request. Google says this seems to be related to cross-domain blocking, but that's not enabled in Mojo apps? Feb 23 07:04:05 rwhitby, I'll see if i can come up with something less than half-ass :) Feb 23 07:05:35 (Or is it required to use Ajax.Request from Prototype?) Feb 23 09:03:37 whats goin on! Feb 23 09:03:46 to little Feb 23 09:51:06 hey guys. does anyone know how i'd go about compiling obj-c code with the pdk? Feb 23 09:51:27 why would anyone do that? Feb 23 09:51:40 :( Feb 23 09:51:56 well i have an iphone game i want to port over Feb 23 09:52:04 entirely written in obj-c Feb 23 09:52:12 yikes Feb 23 09:52:20 yeah, i kind of like it Feb 23 09:52:28 is it a fart app? Feb 23 09:52:29 I have no idea if there's an objc compiler frontend Feb 23 09:52:31 although i realise a lot of people don't Feb 23 09:52:57 usually people try C or C++ and only the bare neccessities in objC because it's so... welll Feb 23 09:53:45 so i figure my best bet is to compile arm-none-linux-gnueabi from source and enable support? Feb 23 09:54:00 rizer: is it a fart app? Feb 23 09:54:39 hopefully. Feb 23 09:54:39 hotdp: yeah, i figured webos is really lacking in fart apps ;) Feb 23 09:55:00 we have some but we need more! Feb 23 09:55:07 http://rizergames.com/flying-cats-game/ Feb 23 09:55:13 that's the beast Feb 23 09:56:37 video does not play for me Feb 23 09:56:46 yeah… Feb 23 09:56:56 maybe i'm too html5 Feb 23 09:57:47 it's on youtube too Feb 23 09:57:48 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-RxxU6V90I Feb 23 09:58:02 ahhh html5 because iphone cant flash ? :D Feb 23 09:58:05 i should make that page better / more compatible i know Feb 23 09:58:15 i dislike flash as well Feb 23 09:59:43 so anyway, i'm guessing no-ones looked at the arm-none-linux-gnueabi source? it's a joke. there's no readme, no makefile, and just a .sh file that will only work on the guy who made it's system Feb 23 10:00:18 rizer: many of the irc users are sleeping Feb 23 10:00:25 yeah Feb 23 10:00:33 maybe if you try and ask in about 6 hours there might be more help inhere Feb 23 10:00:39 cool Feb 23 10:00:47 they usually pretty helpful in here? Feb 23 10:00:48 no promise, but more active users Feb 23 10:01:48 ok, thanks Feb 23 10:01:52 np Feb 23 10:03:25 nice Feb 23 10:14:07 and why arnt you asleep hotdp ? heh Feb 23 10:14:32 i am from denmark Feb 23 10:14:35 its 11:12 Feb 23 10:15:24 oh right, 04:14 for me. :/ Feb 23 10:16:04 you find a car yet? :) Feb 23 10:17:05 Maybe Feb 23 10:17:10 looking at Chervolet Cruze Feb 23 10:17:24 04:14 :S Feb 23 10:17:31 nice Feb 23 10:18:11 yea, sick, I don't sleep well/much when I'm sick. :/ Feb 23 10:18:17 :( Feb 23 10:18:20 feeber? Feb 23 10:19:02 heh, not yet.. but plannin on one soon. my kids got one. I'm just waiting. :) Feb 23 10:19:10 omg Feb 23 10:19:20 kids = much sickness Feb 23 10:19:29 kids with other kids = sick kids Feb 23 10:19:59 yep.. always. :/ Feb 23 10:21:45 specially when they all comeover to play the wii, they need to get their own sticks.. hehe Feb 23 10:21:53 hehe Feb 23 10:23:11 and ya know, thers always one kid that 'snotty johnny', needs to learn to hankerchief. lol Feb 23 10:23:21 hahaha Feb 23 10:23:27 is it could where you are Feb 23 10:23:55 yeap, for another week or two.. Feb 23 10:24:01 icy. Feb 23 10:25:07 also here Feb 23 10:25:09 drs appt later today at least. Feb 23 10:25:10 i need som summer Feb 23 10:25:30 yea, the weather sucks right now.. not even nice snow, just Ice. :/ Feb 23 10:25:36 I hear that Feb 23 10:31:30 see yaz Feb 23 10:31:59 see yah ajay Feb 23 10:42:28 hotd: i have a friend that got a "UTE" vehicle.. you see those over there? Feb 23 10:42:35