**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Mar 17 02:59:57 2011 Mar 17 03:00:02 no, but I might want to someday... Mar 17 03:00:13 dohtem: on ubuntu it comes through the updates manager Mar 17 03:00:43 SineOt: Yeah... I need to re do those images a bit... They just take time. :| Mar 17 03:01:15 I want to make it a little more like the activity indicator that shows up on the tab on Firefox 4 Mar 17 03:01:44 haeffb: just delete those lines from your sources.list Mar 17 03:02:20 haeffb: ah, in windows its all stealth-like Mar 17 03:03:20 I just uncheck it each time Mar 17 03:04:34 how can I change row height in a list, forum say to use min-height but where to put it.. Mar 17 03:05:42 PatrickC_Pre2: locally, sorry... I'll send them once some people have joined Mar 17 03:05:50 * madnificent is still mailing palm, still being scared Mar 17 03:07:28 haha ok Mar 17 03:07:49 vaibhav: look in the SDK directory under share/refcode/framework/xxx/stylesheets to see all the CSS used in mojo Mar 17 03:08:23 I looked there, and applied min-height to everything possible, still no luck, let me look again Mar 17 03:14:42 haeffb not working, i will go with the default one I suppose Mar 17 03:46:07 everyone should've received their invitation. I'm off to bed Mar 17 03:46:11 night #webos Mar 17 03:46:20 night Mar 17 04:00:12 Hi is anyone have experience using Depot.add method? having problem to use it, failed silently without any error. Here is the code https://gist.github.com/873813 Mar 17 04:00:13 http://mashable.com/2011/03/16/twitter-5th-birthday/ - lol Mar 17 04:01:59 anyone? hmmm… Mar 17 04:02:49 I don't have any experience... (just figuring out Git) Mar 17 04:03:13 is it possible to control a dashboard when at the lock screen? Mar 17 04:04:13 PatrickC_Pre2: no experience either =\ Mar 17 04:04:32 ok... how's it goin shiawuentan? Mar 17 04:04:42 what app are you working on? Mar 17 04:06:08 an app that pulling blog posts from Wordpress site Mar 17 04:07:26 the plan is to have you to login to your blog to view/add/edit post Mar 17 04:07:45 ooo Mar 17 04:07:50 I have a wordpress site :) Mar 17 04:08:09 I could review it using the app when you are finished with it :) Mar 17 04:08:17 or be a beta tester if you need one Mar 17 04:08:24 it's quite sucky at the moment Mar 17 04:08:45 lol.. I'll still beta it for you :) Mar 17 04:09:27 I like using apps that are beta, cause then I get to help the developer make it even better Mar 17 04:12:57 shiawuentan: Depot is asynchronous. It appears that you may be trying to add to the Depot before it has been opened. You should call a function to .add from the onSuccess of your .open Mar 17 04:13:45 take a look at http://www.webos101.com for some examples of using depot Mar 17 04:13:51 * PatrickC_Pre2 *scratches head* Mar 17 04:15:07 haeffb: in my app the db already response to the success handler, just the example i posted is not Mar 17 04:15:46 well…i'm going to try to check the opened status before i start adding in my app Mar 17 04:33:37 how is everyone? Mar 17 04:34:42 scratching head Mar 17 04:41:45 shiawuentan: still not working? Mar 17 04:43:17 night all Mar 17 04:43:17 'night PatrickC_Pre2 Mar 17 04:43:50 can't wait for the next beta :) Mar 17 04:43:59 probably tomorrow evening :) Mar 17 04:44:20 * PatrickC_Pre2 waits by the phone impatiently :) Mar 17 04:44:45 nite Patrick Mar 17 05:02:54 haeffb: turns out you have you check the connection everytime you trying to get something out from DB Mar 17 05:03:57 really don't understand why the connection will close Mar 17 06:17:33 Hey guys, how do I close a stage? just lazy to google…haha! Mar 17 06:44:30 Anyone know how to install webOS sdk in 10.7 Mar 17 11:26:32 Are there any callback functions I can hook into during app installation? Mar 17 11:26:54 I want to execute some setup stuff when my application is installed Mar 17 13:20:02 madnificent: not afaik Mar 17 13:20:11 you need to save a "first use" cookie Mar 17 13:20:22 or db Mar 17 13:27:17 touchpad 16GB wifi 499€ Mar 17 13:27:20 :/ Mar 17 13:33:25 haeffb: yup, that'll be the best second option... I'll probably add a migrations system in the near future. Mar 17 13:33:33 haeffb: the way rails does it Mar 17 13:38:16 going mobile. bbl. Mar 17 14:51:13 shiawuentan: you should not have to reopen the depot Mar 17 14:52:43 haeffb-pre2: i think it's because i'm launching multiple card and it cause the data that i cached in a global variable not available Mar 17 14:53:08 haeffb-pre2: and could be that the connection is closed as well Mar 17 14:53:30 sounds strange... Mar 17 14:53:46 haeffb-pre2: a new card = new tab or window in browser right? Mar 17 14:53:52 would it be possible to select all the elements matching a certain css statement and display that number somewhere, using only css? Mar 17 14:54:00 that would be a nice abstraction Mar 17 14:54:51 shiawuentan: still uses same 'window' so globals should work Mar 17 14:55:28 madnificent: see Protototype getElementsByClassName Mar 17 14:55:47 only css? Mar 17 14:56:01 nevermind Mar 17 14:56:11 not really…i check the Mojo source code from SDK, it do window.open for each stage Mar 17 14:57:22 haeffb-pre2: I can do it through javascript, yes :) Mar 17 14:57:22 hmm... in any case I have used multiple stages with a single global namespace Mar 17 14:58:17 and have stored a ref to db or Depot in a global for use elsewhere Mar 17 14:58:18 hmm hp not competing with price on touchpad Mar 17 15:00:31 haeffb-pre2: really no idea now, the docs not really clear enougb Mar 17 15:00:49 have to create a dummy app and try out Mar 17 15:07:47 @adora: what can we do regarding spam/false 0 star reviews.. people are saying my app is fabulous and accidentally 0 staring it because 0 stars just means no vote to them Mar 17 15:08:16 I can't even talk to them and say hey.. listen you just gave my app a bad review Mar 17 15:33:41 thomaschaaf: 0-star reviews supposedly have no effect on star rating Mar 17 15:33:51 'morning sugardave! Mar 17 15:34:01 good morning :) Mar 17 15:34:20 no I had 2 reviews 5 and 0 -> 2.5 Mar 17 15:34:28 thomaschaaf: bummer Mar 17 15:34:58 thomaschaaf: nothing you can do unless they are complaining about not being able to install, being abusive/racist, etc. Mar 17 15:35:22 sugardave: or spamvertising Mar 17 15:35:55 which some of the zero's seem to be Mar 17 15:36:01 ah, haven't seen that yet Mar 17 15:57:50 man, I wish other channels were as awesome as this one Mar 17 15:58:24 suuure Mar 17 15:58:41 sugardave: what happend? Mar 17 15:59:21 thomaschaaf: trying to get Drupal Services and OAuth modules working as a provider system, but documentation is non-existant and I'm having some issues Mar 17 15:59:32 #drupal is not helping yet Mar 17 15:59:43 lol yea.. Mar 17 15:59:53 many other channels suck balls Mar 17 16:00:08 #php is pretty good too Mar 17 16:00:12 ## Mar 17 16:04:35 off I go Mar 17 16:04:38 byebye Mar 17 16:04:43 * thomaschaaf hits the books Mar 17 16:34:32 can anyone tell me what's wrong with this screen shot @_@ http://media.precentral.net/resources/images/000/094/904/large/landscape_view.PNG Mar 17 16:36:03 if you're going to do a landscape app, fullscreen is totes a must Mar 17 16:37:44 * destinal-work murders SineOt. Mar 17 16:38:00 * SineOt sits on destinal-work and bleeds everywhere. Mar 17 16:38:14 the "word" totes sends me into a rage, sorry Mar 17 16:38:25 when not applying to actual boxes you tote around Mar 17 16:39:29 what about the bags? Mar 17 16:39:39 I have a few totes for my laptop! :I Mar 17 16:39:54 * sugardave also kills SineOt for using "totes" as a word that doesn't mean a carrying vessel. Mar 17 16:40:06 also your peeps are not your friends, my peeps are small delicious yellow marshmallow birds Mar 17 16:40:08 this is totes discrimination maaaaaaaaaaan Mar 17 16:40:48 Ahahaha who ever designed the stuff for the webOS Ignite pages is awesome Mar 17 16:41:05 I like how that app only rotates the control buttons Mar 17 16:41:07 Foxes. Why does it always have to be the foxes. http://webosignite.com/en/calendar/index Mar 17 16:41:34 * sugardave stabs OAuth in the face. Mar 17 16:42:06 Adora: I hope that HP wants to do something like webOS Ignite (complete with pervy foxes) for the US! XD Mar 17 16:42:51 sugardave: it's cool but it wastes so much screen space because it keeps a sideways status menu and etc etc Mar 17 16:43:09 SineOt, that page is kinda creepy Mar 17 16:43:29 RagingMind: It's hilarious Mar 17 16:44:36 why would you put code that only returns an attribute if the method version is > 1.0, but you don't actually support method versions above 1.0? I mean, seriously, who writes code like that? Mar 17 16:45:38 sugardave, you're basically just confirming for me that oAuth was written by monkeys Mar 17 16:46:08 and the kind of smart monkeys who use tools and do cool things, the kind that throw poo at things and smash on keyboards Mar 17 16:46:49 it's not OAuth to blame for this POS, actually..it's the oauth module for drupal Mar 17 16:47:26 but, yes, the evidence that OAuth spec was written by poo-flinging monkeys is hard to ignore Mar 17 17:20:54 is there any way to make internet accessible from emulator? Mar 17 17:28:20 it should be Mar 17 17:33:36 I can't get over that saucy fox XD Mar 17 17:33:46 it's just such a weird thing to stick on a webOS blog! Mar 17 17:35:33 * oilsworkn wonders what a saucy fox is Mar 17 17:37:53 oilsworkn: http://webosignite.com/en/calendar/index Mar 17 17:38:05 the HP sanctioned european WebOS dev community :I Mar 17 17:38:09 Has anyone gotten a email from the dev team about the free pre 2 program? Mar 17 17:38:11 he's hanging out at the bottom of the page Mar 17 17:38:17 (lately) Mar 17 17:38:17 Abyssul: yes, finally! :B Mar 17 17:38:21 be a squeaky wheel Mar 17 17:38:26 and/or pain in the ass Mar 17 17:38:35 I did too, but it only talked about a $200 coupon Mar 17 17:38:44 What happened to the free program? Mar 17 17:38:52 when did you email? Mar 17 17:38:55 originally at least Mar 17 17:39:01 Umm let me check Mar 17 17:39:22 March 4th Mar 17 17:39:54 Just got the email from Adam yesterday and all he mentioned was a $200 coupon code. Mar 17 17:39:54 that was your first contact? Mar 17 17:40:20 I sent my original email March 4th, yes. Mar 17 17:40:38 got my first reply yesterday Mar 17 17:40:44 you -may- have missed the cutoff Mar 17 17:41:00 That would be a shame Mar 17 17:41:01 since a lot of people who emailed the 15th, 16th, of -last- month are only just now hearing back about devices Mar 17 17:41:25 The response thread is still getting hits Mar 17 17:44:01 ah, thats a saucy fox, makes perfect sense now xD Mar 17 17:44:04 Just curious, hopefully the reply back will be faster that the 2 week wait I had before. Mar 17 17:44:43 notice my Pre 2 is showing Edge or GPRS, but the mobile plan that I sign up actually with 3G. Is there any problem with the phone not able to support 3G? Mar 17 17:44:45 I waited 4 weeks and only just now got my response so I wouldn't hold my breath, Abyssul :p Mar 17 17:45:04 * oilsworkn sent in a request, but never got a response Mar 17 17:45:11 shiawuentan: it'll only do 3G if your carrier's 3G bands and the phone's 3G bands line up Mar 17 17:45:25 if all you're getting is Edge/GPRS, chances are it's a band mismatch and there's nothing you can do Mar 17 17:45:30 what's your carrier? Mar 17 17:45:37 SineOt: is there any way to hack it to support? Mar 17 17:45:57 no, it's a physical limitation Mar 17 17:46:09 SineOt: My email response - http://pastebin.com/dzBpEYA8 Mar 17 17:46:30 disappointed… Mar 17 17:46:59 Trying to get a GSM Pre onto T-Mobile? Mar 17 17:47:05 though, my request was basically "Hello, I hear you're expanding the free Pre 2 program and would like to sign up. Thanks," Mar 17 17:47:25 oilsworkn: That was basically my response too Mar 17 17:47:31 pre 2 doesnt support tmos extra 3g band Mar 17 17:47:32 I'm out of US or EU Mar 17 17:47:32 (that was my request) Mar 17 17:47:39 required for 3g in the us on tmo Mar 17 17:47:45 The Pre2 does... 850, 900, 1800, 1900, 900, 2100 Mar 17 17:47:55 But I think it only does EDGE/GPRS on 900/2100 or somethin' Mar 17 17:48:04 GSM uses a lot of bands, so it might not be compatible Mar 17 17:48:35 tmo 3g in the states uses aws which is not standard Mar 17 17:48:42 Yeah. Cell phones are across a ton of bands because different countries had different spectrum open at the time they rolled out networks, so it's a HUGE HODGEPODGE of boners Mar 17 17:49:34 from my telco: "make available the 700 MHz - 800 MHz band" Mar 17 17:49:44 not in the range :( Mar 17 17:50:04 Yeah, you're out of luck :< Mar 17 17:50:29 EDGE isnt that bad Mar 17 17:50:48 EDGE is good, but I often get GPRS only Mar 17 17:52:33 so…the things discussing here is not going to work? http://forums.precentral.net/gsm-pre/211728-modifying-webos-carrier-network-settings.html#post2002079 Mar 17 17:54:04 shiawuentan: http://forums.precentral.net/gsm-pre/209819-o2-pre-international-networks.html Mar 17 17:54:15 See if your provider is supported Mar 17 17:54:24 Although that is Pre, the modems might be the same Mar 17 17:54:38 if the provider uses 700-800mhz for 3G, it just won't work Mar 17 17:54:48 the modem can't broadcast/listen on those frequencies Mar 17 17:55:43 Singapore Mar 17 17:55:43 Provider: Starhub Mar 17 17:55:44 Status: Supported (activation, data, voice) Mar 17 17:55:44 LIE Mar 17 17:56:17 You've got it activated, you've got data, and you've got voice though. :p Mar 17 17:56:19 Just no 3G. Mar 17 17:56:50 data (GPRS) Mar 17 17:59:06 Yeah, technically its right Mar 17 17:59:10 It has data, but not fully Mar 17 18:00:01 http://forums.precentral.net/gsm-pre/209819-o2-pre-international-networks-3.html#post2006835 Mar 17 18:00:17 looks like it does have 3G, just I'm not getting it Mar 17 18:00:35 W.H.Y Mar 17 18:00:54 Hold on Mar 17 18:04:27 shiawuentan: you do have a 3g SIM card right? Mar 17 18:05:03 Abyssul: yup, I get 3G on Android with the SIM I'm using Mar 17 18:05:35 Alright Mar 17 18:05:48 The network settings swap might work Mar 17 18:06:18 Abyssul: mind to give some guides? Mar 17 18:06:39 for starhub, put "shinternet" (no quotes) as the Name and APN, but leave the Username and password blank Mar 17 18:07:24 Abyssul: where should I go to change that? Mar 17 18:07:40 Read the instructions http://forums.precentral.net/gsm-pre/211728-modifying-webos-carrier-network-settings.html#post2002079 Mar 17 18:07:51 Extract the CarrierNetworkSettings.db3 file Mar 17 18:07:55 Change the values Mar 17 18:08:04 then copy it back Mar 17 18:08:43 Not sure how well this will work Mar 17 18:08:51 but at most, you will just have to doctor your phone if it fails Mar 17 18:09:21 You have the unlocked Pre 2? Mar 17 18:10:12 yup…an unlocked Pre 2 Mar 17 18:11:02 version 2.1 webos? Mar 17 18:11:37 version 2.1 Mar 17 18:11:58 serial number so I can double check your gsm bands Mar 17 18:12:45 wait…let me shut it down Mar 17 18:13:46 PG9U0AUA426J Mar 17 18:14:02 stupid work internetws Mar 17 18:14:15 that lazy IT guy should fix it Mar 17 18:14:17 You could've jsut went to device info Mar 17 18:14:24 lol Mar 17 18:14:28 wait Mar 17 18:14:29 or, bet a bouncer! Mar 17 18:14:30 thats not right Mar 17 18:14:31 lol Mar 17 18:14:36 =P Mar 17 18:14:36 why would i bet a bouncer? Mar 17 18:14:39 he would kick my ass for sure Mar 17 18:14:56 Oh man Mar 17 18:15:07 shiawuentan: you have the NA version of the Pre 2 unlocked Mar 17 18:15:12 No wonder it doesnt work Mar 17 18:15:13 get* Mar 17 18:15:19 NA ?.? Mar 17 18:15:23 North America Mar 17 18:15:52 sounds like I'm shit already Mar 17 18:16:09 doh! (said in homers voice) Mar 17 18:16:22 The Dual Band GSM North American communication board (marked "NA") found in the Telcel Palm Pre, the AT&T Palm Pre Plus, and the Unlocked GSM Palm Pre 2 sold in North America is designed specifically to use the 850 and 1900 3G UMTS frequencies. The Dual Band GSM European communication board (marked EU) found in the European Palm Pre, Palm Pre Plus, and Palm Pre 2 is designed specifically to use the 900 and 2100 3G UMTS frequencies. Mar 17 18:16:46 Starhub uses 2100 frequency Mar 17 18:17:07 kill me~ Mar 17 18:17:39 this device is from my boss, he get it from US Mar 17 18:17:52 tell your boss to fix it :) Mar 17 18:17:54 Still a nice phone Mar 17 18:17:59 Ill take it Mar 17 18:18:02 :p Mar 17 18:18:07 can I request to get another phone? :D Mar 17 18:18:13 Probably not Mar 17 18:18:26 I hope I get my free pre 2 instead of some dinky coupon code Mar 17 18:18:33 my pre2s spacebar went out last night :( Mar 17 18:18:39 awwww Mar 17 18:18:50 right in the middle of something important Mar 17 18:18:53 wow~ a hardcore user Mar 17 18:18:57 i was like /j#webos Mar 17 18:19:00 and it didnt work obv Mar 17 18:19:03 Porn isnt important Mar 17 18:19:05 lol Mar 17 18:19:53 hey halfhalo so is stageActivate better then activate for the stacking queue? Mar 17 18:20:06 that reminds me...I should cancel TEP on this frankenPre2 Mar 17 18:20:06 havent gotten that far yet Mar 17 18:20:06 from www.palm.com they stated Pre 3 will be available on Summer, when is summer? Mar 17 18:20:13 wtf Mar 17 18:20:17 but I'm going to try deactivate first Mar 17 18:20:24 * halfhalo got home like 20 minutes ago Mar 17 18:20:27 why deactivate? Mar 17 18:20:29 after spring Mar 17 18:20:30 typically from june to september or so :p Mar 17 18:20:35 in, y'know, the summer time Mar 17 18:20:35 month? Mar 17 18:20:47 Summer is whenever they want it to be... Mar 17 18:20:52 man…long to go Mar 17 18:21:22 It's summer here all the time Mar 17 18:21:30 it's like, 3 months :p Mar 17 18:21:59 was looking on the forums and deactivate seems to fire when I want it to Mar 17 18:22:07 buuuttttttt gonna get foods before i push anything Mar 17 18:22:20 deactivate fires when it activates? Mar 17 18:22:23 this makes no sense Mar 17 18:22:32 hp just needs to fix createStageWithCallback or whatever it was Mar 17 18:22:43 deactivate fires when the card is fully active iirc from the forums Mar 17 18:22:46 have to WiFi for 3 more months Mar 17 18:23:10 that... makes no sense Mar 17 18:23:34 that sounds like a bad bad bug Mar 17 18:26:41 do you guys ever try to wrap Mojo.Depot in another object and then the DB open state will become closed when you use it in multiple stage? Mar 17 18:31:02 Thanks Abyssul for helping me to check the 3G support :) Mar 17 18:31:12 I'm going to sleep, nitez everyone Mar 17 18:31:31 shiawuentan: No problem Mar 17 18:32:01 Me phone exploded.... Mar 17 18:32:03 * Abyssul cries Mar 17 18:32:20 like, actually exploded? Mar 17 18:32:40 * halfhalo listens Mar 17 18:32:42 Haha, not literally. I've wanted to throw through the wall a few times though. Mar 17 18:32:51 oh Mar 17 18:33:06 i've had things explode without actually exploding, too Mar 17 18:33:11 :/ Mar 17 18:33:22 Your mind? Mar 17 18:33:30 no Mar 17 18:33:38 popcorn? Mar 17 18:35:23 * haeffb-pre2 has never seen deactivate fire when it wasn't supposed to Mar 17 18:35:42 have seen a popcorn fire, though Mar 17 18:37:49 Anyone remember those palm sleeping bags for the phone? Mar 17 18:37:57 I totally forgot about them until Palm mentioned it Mar 17 18:39:47 * oilsworkn has some Mar 17 18:39:50 * oilsworkn uses them for dev devices that are not in active use Mar 17 18:40:03 pre2s dont come with them though! Mar 17 18:40:20 they make me sad :( Mar 17 18:40:40 I lost mine and died a little inside that night. Mar 17 18:40:49 awwwwww Mar 17 18:41:22 * halfhalo still has 2 Mar 17 18:41:25 Alright, do apps save local settings and data in their app folder or in an alternative directory in a database? Mar 17 18:41:27 I realized that my Pixi didn't come with one and it made me sad :< Mar 17 19:01:05 My phone does not like this charger.... Mar 17 19:22:01 Afternoon #webos Mar 17 19:23:25 How is everyone? Mar 17 19:24:14 aggitated at bad german engineers Mar 17 19:24:22 * dkirker is very good! Mar 17 19:24:37 Good dkirker! Mar 17 19:24:44 And how come silent_ninja? Mar 17 19:24:59 How's my new favorite app comin dkirker ;) Mar 17 19:25:18 implemented landscape support, and cleaned up some issues with it Mar 17 19:25:37 Awesome! Mar 17 19:25:59 PatrickC_Pre2, for starters, they provided a profibus port on a machine they shipped thats wired wrong (data on pins 2 and 4 rather than 3 and 8 as the spec states) Mar 17 19:26:02 updated my pre2 to 2.1, woohoo Mar 17 19:26:06 I was sad to see os2.1 still has no websockets Mar 17 19:26:28 program for a plc that the hardware config dosnt match the machine (prog is based on fw 2.0, plc has fw 1.13) Mar 17 19:26:37 Awesome bmidgley Mar 17 19:26:46 websockets would be nice Mar 17 19:27:07 * PatrickC_Pre2 needs to find out what these websockets are Mar 17 19:27:17 direct communication method Mar 17 19:27:18 oh, dkirker, that reminds me Mar 17 19:27:25 fullscreen Mar 17 19:27:31 allows you to write a custom daemon /service listening on a port Mar 17 19:27:36 and use a socket to talk to it Mar 17 19:27:37 I was wondering why the only irc client is a preware thing Mar 17 19:27:39 can't you implement websockets via a node service? Mar 17 19:27:48 socket.io I think would make it stupid simple to do Mar 17 19:27:57 but I think with websockets it would be easier to pull off Mar 17 19:28:27 I've got a few little stupid socket thingies written in Node right now for Squish Remote Mar 17 19:28:59 I am thinking about doing something like that for a "top sites" thing on webOS 2 Mar 17 19:29:00 havnt looked at all, but its definately a possibility Mar 17 19:29:35 personally, id just end up doing a hybrid / pdk app and doing it in c++ anyway for the trouble Mar 17 19:30:15 Node makes sockets and such pretty easy to do Mar 17 19:30:31 a UDP multicast sender/listener is like 5 lines Mar 17 19:31:09 dkirker: I'd love to see Universe just do fullscreen all the time because on my Pixi... I want those extra 50 odd pixels :9 Mar 17 19:31:12 Dkirker: top sites would be nie Mar 17 19:31:33 Or a fullscreen toggle would be nice Mar 17 19:31:43 ruby eventmachine provides a simple way too for sockets Mar 17 19:31:52 SineOt: Prefs > Hide-Icons: ON. When loading a page icons will show. When page is loaded, they will hide. Tap and hold to bring them back. :) Mar 17 19:32:03 I added some server i/o to a webgl demo without too much trouble Mar 17 19:32:09 No no no, fullscreen fullscreen :3 Mar 17 19:32:19 ah Mar 17 19:32:21 right Mar 17 19:32:27 as in hide the notifications and the top webOS status menu Mar 17 19:32:38 duh :/ Mar 17 19:32:56 I'll put it on my list, though it isn't a top priority. I'm rather pressed for time... Mar 17 19:33:12 SiLeNt_NiNjA1, bmidgley: http://socket.io/ is awesome Mar 17 19:36:32 Its hot here Mar 17 19:36:42 Realfeel 79 Mar 17 19:36:54 s/realfeel/real feel/ Mar 17 19:37:02 that's hot? Mar 17 19:37:09 it was 114 last summer here XD Mar 17 19:37:14 Where? Mar 17 19:37:21 Southern California Mar 17 19:37:27 When I lived in FL it was almost never that hot Mar 17 19:37:34 79 is perfectly comfortable Mar 17 19:37:37 Southern Cali.. I see Mar 17 19:37:48 I like it around 70-75 Mar 17 19:39:01 Did you go to the Feb 9th event sineot? Mar 17 19:39:37 yup Mar 17 19:39:48 Cool Mar 17 19:39:53 Drove about 11 hours up the 101 :] Mar 17 19:39:58 I didn't get to go :'( Mar 17 19:40:08 TN is a little bit of a drive lol Mar 17 19:40:45 SineOt: Damn, I wish that I would have been more social with the other developers... I feel that I missed meeting a lot of people. Mar 17 19:40:55 I'm just glad to live on the seaward side of the mountain range here Mar 17 19:41:07 Hello everyone Mar 17 19:41:14 dkirker: yeah, I'm wishing I had planned it out a lot better. Lots of cool people were there and I didn't even realize it Mar 17 19:41:35 There needed to be more social-network integration before the event. Mar 17 19:41:35 I was the doof with the fauxhawk and the sweater :V Mar 17 19:42:03 yeah Mar 17 19:42:10 why does that guy in the hp video keep saying "The webOS" Mar 17 19:42:12 but at least that's something to plan on in advance, hah Mar 17 19:42:15 instead of just "webOS" Mar 17 19:42:26 oil: regional thing? IDK Mar 17 19:42:39 SineOt: I might have seen you there. I'd have to see a picture to actually remember. There were a lot of people there... Mar 17 19:42:48 My buddies up in Santa Clara were making fun of me for the way I refer to freeways with "the" Mar 17 19:42:55 ahahahaha Mar 17 19:42:56 like the 5, the 91, the 405 Mar 17 19:43:07 it is just "101", not "the 101" ;P Mar 17 19:43:17 well Mar 17 19:43:18 no it's not! Mar 17 19:43:24 it makes sense to say "im on the 101" Mar 17 19:43:27 the 101 gives it some kind of weight as an entity Mar 17 19:43:34 I suppose it depends how you say it Mar 17 19:43:35 it's easier to hate an entity than an idea Mar 17 19:43:47 but it sounds weird to say "i've got the webos" Mar 17 19:43:49 I've always said "highway 101" my entire life. So "101" makes sense. Mar 17 19:43:54 "take the 57 up to the 60 and go east until you hit the 91" Mar 17 19:43:54 * PatrickC_School is lurking and laughing hehe Mar 17 19:44:01 But if you say "the 101 freeway", then "the 101" makes sense Mar 17 19:44:16 * dkirker still prefers 101 Mar 17 19:44:18 they don't deserver titles like "freeway" Mar 17 19:44:18 :D Mar 17 19:44:28 it makes freeways look bad in comparison! Mar 17 19:44:33 is there a cure for the webOS? Mar 17 19:44:39 cowbell? Mar 17 19:44:42 or a lot of drugs Mar 17 19:44:44 maybe both Mar 17 19:44:45 http://www.precentral.net/hp-touts-webos-connected-world Mar 17 19:44:47 just listen to it Mar 17 19:44:53 it sounds weird every time he says "the webos" Mar 17 19:45:09 oil: did you see the TouchPad with a flash and back camera that they showed off in video at the March 14th event? Mar 17 19:45:26 no Mar 17 19:45:38 yeahhh it was kind of bad Mar 17 19:45:52 unless they've made a secret change and are shipping it with a pair of cameras and a flash without telling anyone Mar 17 19:46:04 I told you guys we'd have webOS cars Mar 17 19:46:13 they will be running THE webOS Mar 17 19:46:15 * SineOt can only imagine someone talking about "the webOS" while saucy fox hangs out in the background Mar 17 19:46:54 what is this saucy fox? I think I missed it... Mar 17 19:47:18 HP is backing something called webOS Ignite which is a big dev community effort in Europe Mar 17 19:47:28