**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Mar 27 02:59:59 2011 Mar 27 03:08:38 oh goodness Mar 27 03:08:52 4+ updates auto-rejected by security scanner for 2.0 apis. Mar 27 03:09:34 wow Mar 27 03:10:23 kinda tired of it Mar 27 03:10:34 trying to push an update to Koto? Mar 27 03:11:06 yep Mar 27 03:11:21 also. the lite version is stuck in "processing submission" Mar 27 03:14:45 anyone want to help me with something really quick? Mar 27 03:19:31 http://twitter.com/#!/Tibfib/status/51844488531943424 Mar 27 03:20:03 awesome!!!!! Mar 27 03:20:07 showoff! hehehe Mar 27 03:20:15 lol Mar 27 03:20:25 lies Mar 27 03:20:42 halfhalo thinks everything is lies :p Mar 27 03:20:48 and? Mar 27 03:20:50 <{aaron}> hi guys, i'm starting to look into webos (and mobile development in general). is it possible to develop a webos app without the mojo framework? (i.e. use some other framework like jquery mobile instead) Mar 27 03:21:23 yes Mar 27 03:21:28 but its painful Mar 27 03:21:52 NuttyBunny: :) Mar 27 03:22:22 <{aaron}> halfhalo, can you elaborate? :) Mar 27 03:22:45 it is possible Mar 27 03:22:50 not that much, you can almost stick a webpage with javascript in a mojo app and it will run Mar 27 03:23:07 no, I have never done it, but its possible Mar 27 03:23:11 halfhalo: why do you say it's painful? Mar 27 03:23:42 scenes/stacks have to be done manually irrc Mar 27 03:23:51 <{aaron}> hmm Mar 27 03:23:53 oh stacks wouldn't work at all Mar 27 03:24:01 <{aaron}> i see Mar 27 03:24:12 the framework would have to provide for "scenes" or whatever Mar 27 03:24:28 and dashboards wouldn't work Mar 27 03:24:35 but most stuff will Mar 27 03:24:39 <{aaron}> well jquery mobile provides "pages" Mar 27 03:25:04 <{aaron}> i'm playing with phonegap, i guess they use a main scene Mar 27 03:25:29 yep, it should be just like a pdk app Mar 27 03:26:08 <{aaron}> pdk? Mar 27 03:28:00 plugin-developer-kit Mar 27 03:38:43 goodnight everyone Mar 27 03:39:10 night Mar 27 04:08:05 well, I'm off to bed Mar 27 04:08:09 goodnight everyone Mar 27 04:08:50 <{aaron}> well, it looks like mojo.js is some secret sauce, without the include the app does not launch Mar 27 04:09:44 mojo.js?? Mar 27 04:10:21 <{aaron}> Mar 27 04:10:40 ah *that* mojo.js lol Mar 27 04:10:44 <{aaron}> yeah, that one Mar 27 04:11:00 then add it? Mar 27 04:11:00 <{aaron}> is the source available somewhere? Mar 27 04:11:19 yes, on-device and in the doctors Mar 27 04:12:40 goodnight Mar 27 05:04:14 any of you guys familiar with putting drawers inside of list rows? Mar 27 05:56:03 Tibfib: i love you Mar 27 05:56:04 http://forums.precentral.net/web-os-development/217593-drawer-inside-list-items.html Mar 27 06:07:21 is this really official HP business - http://twitter.com/DevsAndFriends ? Mar 27 06:09:34 uploading a pic to facebook in webos is shit Mar 27 06:09:36 sorry Mar 27 06:11:26 dohtem: doubt it Mar 27 06:11:54 I think it's "official" only in that it's the "official" twitter of DevsAndFriends Mar 27 06:11:59 which is nothing Mar 27 06:15:11 what is devsandfriends for anyway? Mar 27 06:15:25 SineOt: I guessed as much Mar 27 06:15:37 rwhitby: no idea, just came across it Mar 27 06:15:52 I think it's just someone who made a twitter account, a bad website, and just abuses the use of "official" Mar 27 06:24:17 gah! my XBL's expired. :( Mar 27 07:17:49 anyone familiar with streaming http audio in-app ? Mar 27 09:57:56 hello Mar 27 09:58:55 hi Mar 27 09:59:33 sandrstar have you tried reviewtomail.com yet :) Mar 27 10:01:43 sandrstar sends you your reviews by mail.. Don't know if you have apps in the catalog Mar 27 10:02:05 not yet. first, I need to create application :) may be it become actual for me later and I'll check it out Mar 27 10:02:25 new dev? Mar 27 10:02:46 yes, new to webOS Mar 27 10:03:22 what do you want to dev? Mar 27 10:05:31 some app for blogging, like https://github.com/beaucollins/wordpress-webos Mar 27 10:06:12 what plattform? Wordpress? Drupal? Mar 27 10:07:26 hope to make it as common as possible. Mar 27 10:08:39 so youre targetting multiple plattforms Mar 27 10:12:21 hmm, yes. but it might be just training on webOS and web-programming. was developing on c for brew last years, so web-programming is also new for me Mar 27 11:05:03 rwhitby, I've posted my experiences with linphone on the forum Mar 27 11:05:36 Simpson_2: note that I am not the Linphone developer Mar 27 11:06:13 no, but YOU asked me to note down my experiences :) Mar 27 11:06:44 rwhitby, and you seemed to be at least involved in the process right ? Mar 27 11:09:29 Simpson_2: link? Mar 27 11:09:40 hotdp, link to ?? Mar 27 11:27:09 "posted my experiences with linphone on the forum" Mar 27 11:28:32 hotdp, http://forums.precentral.net/showthread.php?p=2921563#post2921563 Mar 27 12:31:53 how much does the pre weigh? Mar 27 12:43:56 135g according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_Pre Mar 27 12:45:18 how much in oz? Mar 27 12:45:45 pretty sure it's the same mass in australia Mar 27 12:46:24 lol i think i put too much for shipping Mar 27 12:46:30 i put 8 oz Mar 27 12:46:42 how are you shipping? Mar 27 12:46:55 first class Mar 27 12:47:01 usps Mar 27 12:47:26 im also including an extra battery Mar 27 14:25:34 so, if I have JustType features and still want app available for 1.x devices... ? Mar 27 14:35:09 i guess just type will just not be avalible? Mar 27 14:37:56 I think the portal has an issue with 2.x features Mar 27 14:55:27 is it a good idea to store apps persistent data (say, accounts information which user has entered during first launch) using db8? Mar 27 14:57:31 db8 is backed up to Palm Profile Mar 27 15:00:38 so, it's better to create own database? i've considered html5 possibilities and things like openDatabase, but looks like there's no way to use it from nodejs service side Mar 27 15:21:41 hey! just submitted Rainy Free to the app catalog.. Mar 27 15:22:23 for anyone interessted: http://db.tt/QZDMiUu Mar 27 15:22:36 no icons :) Mar 27 15:22:49 closed umbrella instead of crossed out one Mar 27 15:28:58 cool Done! is using http://reviewtomail.com too :) Mar 27 15:29:18 *looking throught the apps Mar 27 15:31:35 off I go! Mar 27 15:31:41 good day guys! Mar 27 15:55:09 any of you guy stumbled across a way to save an image locally given a url? Mar 27 15:55:26 like from an imageviewer Mar 27 16:13:14 anyone else notice the pixi's picture quality is better than the pre's? Mar 27 16:58:06 sugardave: ping Mar 27 17:02:11 is mimeType in a downloadmanager download request required? Mar 27 17:11:07 maik: I don't think so Mar 27 18:19:54 hotdp: pong Mar 27 18:32:05 hi Mar 27 18:51:50 hello MetaView Mar 27 18:57:08 * thomaschaaf wave Mar 27 19:07:32 no one here? Mar 27 19:07:33 :( Mar 27 19:08:01 o7 Mar 27 19:09:17 madnificent: hey Mar 27 19:15:45 how would I get an arrow to always point in the direction of my finger :/ Mar 27 19:26:06 sugardave: Got node.js HTTP to work. Turns out I had everything correct, except for a couple of minor typos. :/ Mar 27 19:26:26 its so much easier in newer node versions though Mar 27 19:26:44 thomaschaaf: can't you bind the event? Mar 27 19:27:34 do I put a listener on it? Or what.. is there any documentation? Mar 27 19:31:24 I see there is a demo app Mar 27 19:33:36 sugardave: when do you go home? or did you already? Mar 27 19:34:15 anyone notice http://developer.palm.com/images/palm/pdk_135px.png it looks like a screaming person: http://lyc21-liegeard.ac-dijon.fr/EspacePedagogique/ALLEMAND/cours/premiere/munch/der-schrei.jpg Mar 27 19:34:47 lol Mar 27 19:35:06 lol Mar 27 19:35:23 heh Mar 27 19:35:26 or a US wall socket Mar 27 19:35:47 I like my definition better Mar 27 19:35:49 so, how's it goin thomaschaaf? Mar 27 19:36:07 brb Mar 27 19:36:11 great! just what I wanted to hear, the firewall on webOS blocks requests from the incoming world when a node.js service creates an http server Mar 27 19:36:22 ok, this should fix the problem Mar 27 19:36:36 PatrickC_Pre2: everything good Mar 27 19:36:42 cool Mar 27 19:36:48 just uploadede rainy 1.1.1 it will be free Mar 27 19:36:48 how's the site comin? Mar 27 19:36:56 can give you the new package if you want Mar 27 19:36:57 wow, really? Mar 27 19:37:03 how come? Mar 27 19:37:05 yea sure Mar 27 19:37:35 http://db.tt/QZDMiUu Mar 27 19:37:38 thats rainy free Mar 27 19:38:01 is there a difference, besides being free? Mar 27 19:38:12 I'm still deciding on a price point for my app Mar 27 19:38:29 I'll probably go pay-for in official app cat, and free in preware Mar 27 19:38:53 PatrickC_Pre2: take a look ;) Mar 27 19:38:59 there is a difference :) Mar 27 19:39:03 ok will do :) Mar 27 19:41:18 when did you submit the official update? and y did you make it free? Mar 27 19:41:26 0 sales in 2 weeks Mar 27 19:41:37 and I am stealing the info from another source so I guess it's fair.. Mar 27 19:41:45 will sooner or later ad ads :) Mar 27 19:42:07 s/ad/add/ :) Mar 27 19:42:08 so did you look? Mar 27 19:42:34 I am watching twilight.. I would like to kill myself right now Mar 27 19:42:36 still downloading for some reason Mar 27 19:42:49 hehe Mar 27 19:43:17 the help button locks up the app Mar 27 19:43:19 :) Mar 27 19:44:28 yep Mar 27 19:44:34 thats not a feature :D Mar 27 19:44:39 lol Mar 27 19:44:47 what is it *suppose* to do? Mar 27 19:44:47 do you like the new icon? Mar 27 19:45:06 what is the new version number? Mar 27 19:45:10 1.1.0? Mar 27 19:45:15 1.1.1 Mar 27 19:45:28 ah, then it didn't update Mar 27 19:45:28 lemme try again Mar 27 19:45:33 it has a new name so you'll have two icons Mar 27 19:45:38 just delete the old one Mar 27 19:45:57 I just deleted the old one :) Mar 27 19:48:05 it won't get past the downloading stage in preware Mar 27 19:48:58 I always install stuff with palm-install not preware.. Mar 27 19:49:10 thomaschaaf: I wanted to give positive feedback for rainy, but the palm app catalog didn't allow me to do so Mar 27 19:49:10 well, the PC isn't booted up Mar 27 19:49:25 madnificent: yea in two days :) Mar 27 19:49:26 probably because you installed it via the ipka Mar 27 19:49:38 s/ipka/ipk/ Mar 27 19:49:40 oh damn it probably still asks for the wrong ID Mar 27 19:49:42 thomaschaaf: I kind-of like the auto-updating icon, it's handy Mar 27 19:49:49 PatrickC_Pre2: yup, for sure Mar 27 19:49:55 madnificent: try exhibition mode ;) Mar 27 19:49:58 PatrickC_Pre2: but I can't buy software from the catalog so... Mar 27 19:50:00 thomaschaaf: pre- Mar 27 19:50:13 madnificent: just update it to 2.1 Mar 27 19:50:18 madnificent: exhibition is available for the Pre- Mar 27 19:50:23 I run it on mine :) Mar 27 19:50:55 thomaschaaf: have you seen sugardave around? Mar 27 19:51:00 no Mar 27 19:51:04 thomaschaaf: I think I want to keep my pre- semi-legacy for now. I might upgrade it later. But palm will most likely give me a pre2, so I feel it might be better to wait for that. Mar 27 19:51:22 PatrickC_Pre2: have you upgraded to 2.1? or how do you run exhibition? Mar 27 19:51:40 I upgraded to 2.1 Mar 27 19:51:50 I thought I'd watch twilight.. and maybe enjoy it just a little.. I feel like throwing up.. Mar 27 19:51:56 not even half way done´ Mar 27 19:52:05 hehe Mar 27 19:52:13 I don't like that movie *at all* Mar 27 19:52:37 freeTether went public!!! woot woot Mar 27 19:52:39 I like giving stuff a fair change Mar 27 19:52:41 chance Mar 27 19:53:03 I watched Twister last night Mar 27 19:53:07 it was good Mar 27 19:54:07 do you think the closed umbrella is pretty enough? Mar 27 19:55:19 * PatrickC_Pre2 doesn't see it yet Mar 27 19:55:35 you are doing something wrong :) Mar 27 19:55:58 I see the umbrella Mar 27 19:56:12 MetaView: have the newest version? Mar 27 19:56:14 1.1.1? Mar 27 19:56:16 yes Mar 27 19:56:20 like it? Mar 27 19:56:33 thomaschaaf: I ended up liking the umbrella with a red sign over it! Mar 27 19:56:51 did not really like the red :/ Mar 27 19:57:00 hm, I guess it will not replace wetter.com Mar 27 19:57:00 thomaschaaf: at first it felt a bit odd, but now I see it and it gives me some sort of happy feeling (means I can take the bike to class0 Mar 27 19:57:34 madnificent: well now you see a closed umbrella... isn't bad either I hope Mar 27 19:58:03 oh they're kissing :) Mar 27 19:58:44 * halfhalo goes laptop shopping Mar 27 19:58:58 halfhalo: what do you want to spend? Mar 27 19:58:59 buy me one? I need it :D Mar 27 19:59:04 maybe I can tell you some good ones? Mar 27 19:59:18 * halfhalo probly knows way more about laptops than you do Mar 27 19:59:35 halfhalo: hmm maybe so Mar 27 19:59:47 I really like the lenovo edge series for a medium price Mar 27 19:59:53 * halfhalo might or might not be a moderator on the largest notebook review site Mar 27 20:00:01 bah, screw the edge Mar 27 20:00:14 what site halfhalo? Mar 27 20:00:18 :) Mar 27 20:00:20 notebookreview Mar 27 20:00:28 halfhalo: holes to small to screw :/ Mar 27 20:00:29 lol Mar 27 20:00:49 also lube would probably destroy it.. although the keyboard is "water proof" Mar 27 20:00:56 to a certain degree Mar 27 20:01:56 * halfhalo 's T400 died today... so he is looking at new laptops to maybe to replace his Mar 27 20:03:44 are thinkpads good? Mar 27 20:04:04 ja mein Mar 27 20:04:18 better then mine Mar 27 20:04:19 :D Mar 27 20:04:33 this rock is better than yours Mar 27 20:04:49 lol Mar 27 20:04:59 don't insult the rock Mar 27 20:05:03 * halfhalo would have a macbook air on its way here right now if it had thunderbolt Mar 27 20:05:25 do you get free laptops for review? Mar 27 20:05:40 sometimes Mar 27 20:06:01 * PatrickC_Pre2 needs to write for notebookreview.com ;) Mar 27 20:06:09 hahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaha Mar 27 20:06:14 hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Mar 27 20:06:34 what? :D Mar 27 20:06:51 * halfhalo is cracking up Mar 27 20:06:58 I don't know why but halfhalo seems a bit arrogant :/ Mar 27 20:07:05 don't like arrogant people Mar 27 20:07:56 if you are good in a field there are two ways to say it either the good friendly way or the way where you just say "fuck that guy" Mar 27 20:10:51 * halfhalo is laughing since writing a review requires detailed knowledge of computer chipsets and hardware, and also requires alot of reading, something PatrickC_Pre2 needs to work on Mar 27 20:11:34 well, I have *minor* knowledge of computer hardware :) Mar 27 20:13:02 PatrickC_Pre: writing review is work, you could do other work too to get a notebook Mar 27 20:13:43 * PatrickC_Pre2 knows Mar 27 20:13:56 but doesn't like the other work lol Mar 27 20:14:00 * halfhalo is the guy who knows/learns random hardware facts that make it into the other reviews Mar 27 20:14:21 I like random facts Mar 27 20:15:04 Does anyone know how I would reload a scene in mojo? Mar 27 20:15:24 facts like the reason the intel x4500 chipset in laptops is usually shipped with 2/4GB of ram is due to an annoying bug with odd sticks Mar 27 20:16:02 * halfhalo hated that bug... he ordered his laptop with 3GB when he got it Mar 27 20:20:03 * halfhalo goes to dissasemble his laptop to fix it Mar 27 20:20:28 classyfy: how about relaunching it? Mar 27 20:20:58 as in reopening the stage and closing the one below? Mar 27 20:21:09 halfhalo, why are you dissassembling your laptop Mar 27 20:21:18 it died Mar 27 20:21:22 lol Mar 27 20:21:33 not wanting to hassle with warranty repair right now Mar 27 20:21:42 is it under warranty Mar 27 20:22:01 thomaschaaf: I dont want the back gesture to just go, So I have a menu with 4 scenes and if your on any of the scenes theres a button reset, but i dont want to have to "back" out after youve hit the reset button Mar 27 20:22:28 Its got another year and a half or so of next day on site accidental warranty Mar 27 20:23:39 then have them come out tomorrow? Mar 27 20:23:49 not home tomorrow Mar 27 20:24:07 or this whole week Mar 27 20:24:11 classyfy: you can always overwrite the back gesture Mar 27 20:24:23 hmm, fix it yourself? :) Mar 27 20:24:39 depends... Thinking the mobo cracked Mar 27 20:25:02 that... wouldn't be good.. Mar 27 20:26:41 classyfy: try updating your models, not the scene. Mar 27 20:27:05 leiru: Mmm that may work Mar 27 20:28:58 modelChanged() and setWidgetModel() somewhere in the docs. (afaik at the controllers section) Mar 27 20:29:58 hola amigos y amigas Mar 27 20:30:05 hay Mar 27 20:31:02 sup PatrickC_Pre Mar 27 20:31:09 2 Mar 27 20:31:32 nothin much Mar 27 20:31:45 just tryin to figure out some design things for my app Mar 27 20:32:40 right on Mar 27 20:33:04 downloaded SDK 2.1 last will install soon, need to get some other work donbe Mar 27 20:33:05 yep Mar 27 20:33:10 what sort of app? Mar 27 20:33:15 Navigation app Mar 27 20:34:17 *Helping* Mar 27 20:34:50 ^^ yep Mar 27 20:35:49 "The average human eats 8 spiders in their lifetime at night" Mar 27 20:36:03 protein Mar 27 20:36:03 * oil pukes Mar 27 20:36:14 lol Mar 27 20:36:40 nice Mar 27 20:36:52 i like spiders for brunch Mar 27 20:37:16 5000 Useless Facts FTW!! lol Mar 27 20:37:34 i dont want to be ordinary "average". Mar 27 20:37:41 will going to hunt some spiders tomorrow Mar 27 20:37:43 theres an app for that! Mar 27 20:37:46 :) Mar 27 20:38:26 and "During your lifetime you'll eat about 60,000 pounds of food, that's the wright of about 6 elephants" Mar 27 20:39:22 doesn't seem that much.. Mar 27 20:39:50 lol Mar 27 20:40:01 http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee477/patrickc14/photos-temp-1jpg-5.jpg Mar 27 20:40:05 ^^ hehe Mar 27 20:40:19 that's true...one elephant per year even seems a little bit small Mar 27 20:41:33 two things about the fact, how is it useless and why is it a fact lol Mar 27 20:41:58 the MikeRowSoft one? Mar 27 20:42:27 PatrickC_Pre2: where do you plan on paintin the route? Mar 27 20:42:35 are you thinking pdk app? Mar 27 20:43:20 no.. idk how to even use the PDK lol Mar 27 20:46:45 brb Mar 27 20:47:26 rwhitby, so who is the developer of linphone ? Mar 27 20:48:40 Simpson_2, thibaud Mar 27 20:49:02 but he is not online here ? Mar 27 20:49:06 for webos port at least... Mar 27 20:49:20 he does come on, just not continuous like a lot of the other devs Mar 27 20:50:06 okay Mar 27 20:50:28 I just had a 45 minute SIP call with linphone, so I would say its stable Mar 27 20:54:10 * halfhalo got his laptop to boot! Mar 27 20:54:27 buuttt.... locked myself out of windows for the moment... Mar 27 20:54:30 i remember that MikeRoweSoft lawsuit Mar 27 20:54:52 the kid ended up giving the domain to MS and he got some shitty gift from MS Mar 27 20:55:04 like windows 2000 or something like that Mar 27 20:55:41 lol Mar 27 20:55:54 or it might have been some MS certification Mar 27 20:55:57 so it was not useless Mar 27 20:56:03 should have atleast offered the kid a job Mar 27 20:56:10 lol yeah Mar 27 20:56:12 or money at the very least Mar 27 20:56:12 forsure Mar 27 20:56:16 yeah Mar 27 20:56:35 yep Mar 27 20:56:39 PatrickC_Pre2: as far as I can tell 2.5d is not possible with cloudmade.com without using opengl Mar 27 20:57:01 and opengl is PDK, isn't it? Mar 27 21:28:21 PatrickC_Pre2: perhaps it's possible through WebGL? Mar 27 21:28:32 I'll take a look Mar 27 21:28:34 thanks! Mar 27 21:29:09 cloudmate.com gives me an add page btw :( Mar 27 21:30:10 cloudmade.com Mar 27 21:30:14 webos doesn't do webgl Mar 27 21:30:18 not mate :) Mar 27 21:30:20 not yet... Mar 27 21:30:28 sugardave, I posted it to github :) Mar 27 21:30:32 finally :) Mar 27 21:30:39 no doubt Mar 27 21:31:20 howdy sugardave Mar 27 21:31:27 hey LoneStar99 Mar 27 21:31:35 it wasn't that hard.. once I set up ssh for it Mar 27 21:32:42 are you back in the states yet sugardave? Mar 27 21:33:18 anyone know if the mimetype parameter in downloadmanager download request is required? Mar 27 21:33:25 er mime parameter Mar 27 21:37:57 sugardave: thomaschaaf told me that it is coded in svg, not canvas Mar 27 21:38:01 so it won't work Mar 27 22:02:58 any of you guys figured out how to get a local file reference to something rendered in an imageview? Mar 27 22:10:48 I would like to call this function SpinnerAssistant.prototype.setSpinnerStatus from this function: AppAssistant.prototype.databaseCreated. I think I have to get the active stageController then the scene but I don't know what to do afterwards and I am not sure I am doing the right thing. Mar 27 22:22:59 Spanska: don't you need access to the spinner's model? Mar 27 22:23:29 Spanska: then you should set that model's spinning (or something like it) to true and call modelChanged. Mar 27 22:23:49 (ergo, you need to publish the model) Mar 27 22:28:06 madnificent: it's not a widget, just some HTML text in a scene Mar 27 22:28:34 madnificent: I created a function in that scene assistant to make it easier to change the text correctly Mar 27 22:28:57 madnificent: I would like to call it from my app assistant but I don't think I get how to do it correctly Mar 27 22:31:37 Spanska: I'm not with you on it, can't follow. If you have the controller, then you can get the html element by calling get("elementID") on the controller... don't know if that helps Mar 27 22:32:12 madnificent: I would like to call a function in the javascript part, not to get HTML elements Mar 27 22:32:16 anyone need any pixi parts Mar 27 22:32:17 I am using xmlhttprequest to send a post request , but header shows it as get , is it standard behaviour Mar 27 22:33:34 vaibhav: no, you can send post requeststhrough xmlhttprequest. Never tried it, but I know it's possible. Search for your bug :) Mar 27 22:33:57 madnificent: I have a function called AppAssistant.prototype.databaseCreated() in my app-assistant.js file. I would like to call another function called SpinnerAssistant.prototype.setSpinnerStatus() which is in my spinner-assistant.js file Mar 27 22:34:06 Spanska: I don't know if you can reach the functionality of the assistant. I don't know the internals. What you could do, is publish the current assistant when its activate method is called and use that handle... Mar 27 22:34:23 naptime! bbs Mar 27 22:34:31 madnificent: thanks Mar 27 22:51:08 Spanska: did the publishing of the current assistant work? Mar 27 22:55:44 anybody's app numbers updating, mine is freeed for a week Mar 27 22:55:52 * freezed Mar 27 22:56:10 same here vaibhav Mar 27 22:57:08 I was hoping to get my first $$$ this month, seems like have to wait another month Mar 27 22:57:33 * Tibfib needs to start learning enyo, stat Mar 27 22:58:20 when do we need to learn enyo by 3.0? Mar 27 23:00:09 yeah Mar 27 23:00:17 but I don't plan on starting any major apps with mojo Mar 27 23:04:22 Tibfib: you mean start anymore major projects with mojo? Mar 27 23:04:53 heh, same thing? Mar 27 23:06:06 i may build one more mojo app and revamp some others Mar 27 23:06:18 is enyo alot different in syntax? Mar 27 23:06:40 anyone used the attachment parameter here http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1660&Itemid=278 Mar 27 23:07:02 trying to figure out how to pass a file path Mar 27 23:07:44 negative Mar 27 23:09:03 maik: what do you mean? Mar 27 23:09:51 i want to pass a local file in /media/internal/files/ to the messaging app as an attachment Mar 27 23:12:05 i've tried file:///media/internal/files/myfile and just /media/internal/files/myfile Mar 27 23:12:11 neither appear to work Mar 27 23:13:08 just fot this from aptana com.palm.webos.util.novacom.NovacomUtil$NovacomUtilException: com.palm.webos.util.novacom.NovacomCommand$NovacomCommandException: java.io.IOException: No return code found in stream from file:///bin/mkdir Mar 27 23:13:16 any idea what it is Mar 27 23:13:33 while running a program Mar 27 23:15:06 im so baffled right now Mar 27 23:15:16 im calling sprint from an unactivated verizon phone Mar 27 23:17:45 maik: I'm guessing it is "/media/internal/file.jpg" Mar 27 23:17:51 :( Mar 27 23:18:14 are you creating the path yourself? Mar 27 23:19:28 it's been passed in from a download manager call. if i look at the response object, .target is a valid path Mar 27 23:19:54 hmm Mar 27 23:20:00 it might just be the api Mar 27 23:20:15 i can't seem to find any examples Mar 27 23:22:30 madnificent: I actually did what you suggested for another part of my app, I was looking for another way, I haven't done it yet for this specific part but I'll do it right now and I am sure it will work ;) Mar 27 23:23:07 Spanska: I know it's not pretty, but it's the best thing I could figure out immediately. There may well be a prettier solution Mar 27 23:23:58 madnificent: it works fine, I'll live with it, thanks for reminding me ;) Mar 27 23:34:22 Tibfib: so it does appear to be working, it's just not rendering the thumbnail when i attach it Mar 27 23:34:29 good enough for me i think Mar 28 00:02:29 weird Mar 28 00:02:30 Does anyone know where I could find an example of a FilterList with Drawers and itemsCallback being used as well? Mar 28 00:03:16 I think in filterlists the filterFunction replaces itemsCallback Mar 28 00:07:33 ok Mar 28 00:08:02 how do you want the drawers to work? Mar 28 00:08:11 I don't know where I should put the drawers, I wonder if it's in itemTemplate, dividerTemplate or somewhere else Mar 28 00:11:58 Oh, I found one of your posts on this:D Mar 28 00:12:50 how do i get rid of my phone from my palm profile? Mar 28 00:13:09 im selling it, but it is marked as active on my profile Mar 28 00:13:24 login with another profile on the phone Mar 28 00:14:51 Spanska: mine? Mar 28 00:15:28 Once the other user signs into his/her profile, it will automatically deactivate from my profile? Mar 28 00:15:45 Spanska: see https://github.com/Tibfib/Koto-Player/blob/master/app/assistants/artist-view-assistant.js Mar 28 00:16:55 is there a quick js function to replace html chars (%20, etc) with their actual chars? Mar 28 00:17:21 fudge: yep, that's how it works, your profile can only be active in one phone Mar 28 00:17:44 maik: hmm, like decodeURI or whatever? Mar 28 00:17:48 ooh ya Mar 28 00:18:01 fudge: So, if you login on another phone, the old one gets wiped. Also, if they log on with a new profile, your profile will also lose connection with the old phone Mar 28 00:18:07 Tibfib: Yes, it is your post but I actually have a database with holiday names, countries (and other data) and want to show the holidays divided by countries. This isn't exactly what your post was about.. I'll look at the link you gave me though Mar 28 00:18:29 Tibfib: did you get my mention/thanks from last night? Mar 28 00:18:39 nope ? Mar 28 00:19:03 Spanska: that scene has a list of items with a list in a drawer for each item Mar 28 00:19:16 Tibfib: that should do it, thanks Mar 28 00:19:19 it had to do with drawers in a list :) Mar 28 00:19:28 oh? Mar 28 00:19:52 i had it, but my method for opening/closing was wrong, incredibly wrong, but i didn't notice it until the list of items was > 20 Mar 28 00:20:21 ah not doing event.item.open? Mar 28 00:20:35 found something on the PC forums i think Mar 28 00:20:36 http://forums.precentral.net/web-os-development/217593-drawer-inside-list-items.html Mar 28 00:20:39 exactly Mar 28 00:21:03 i think event.item.open was weird though since isn't event.item the row and not the drawer? Mar 28 00:21:17 s/think/thought/ Mar 28 00:21:25 the drawer is a list item element Mar 28 00:21:30 so the list item is the model Mar 28 00:21:38 so you change the model property to open to get it to work Mar 28 00:21:49 oh, now that makes sense Mar 28 00:22:20 dang. it's gonna take me a while to know enyo well :/ Mar 28 00:22:32 NuttyBunny: Thanks :) Mar 28 00:25:14 fudge: np, good luck :) Mar 28 00:27:38 :) Mar 28 00:28:06 ebay is a real bun-biter. charged me $5 from my $45 auction... Mar 28 01:14:08 lol wtf.. Mar 28 01:14:09 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Subaru-Water-Clear-M3-Mirror-Rain-Visors-Guards-STi-RS-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem4155ed169cQQitemZ280614475420QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories Mar 28 01:14:13 rain gaurds for side mirrors? Mar 28 01:14:28 #sjkdfjk Mar 28 01:15:51 heheh Mar 28 01:36:03 hi Mar 28 01:47:54 EJ257 Mar 28 02:04:45 dawm: EJWHAT? Mar 28 02:04:50 nothing :) Mar 28 02:04:59 * PatrickC_Pre2 is lost Mar 28 02:05:12 * madnificent should try logging into dawm's computer ^_^ Mar 28 02:05:20 oh thats not my password Mar 28 02:05:24 PatrickC_Pre2: the maps app didn't work? Mar 28 02:05:24 thats the engine in my car Mar 28 02:05:27 what's goin on??? Mar 28 02:05:37 sorry i know better :P Mar 28 02:05:50 madnificent: it probably won't work, it uses svg, while webOS uses Canvas Mar 28 02:06:20 PatrickC_Pre2: webos should support both, webkit has support for both so... Mar 28 02:06:37 well, I need to read up on it more Mar 28 02:06:43 then I'll try and make it work Mar 28 02:06:52 (forcefully if I have to ;) Mar 28 02:07:25 Tibfib: is Koto-Player available in Preware, the App Catalog or else where? Mar 28 02:07:32 app catalog Mar 28 02:07:47 did it let you finally update it? Mar 28 02:09:16 hey tibfib, I made a new GG for spaz dev Mar 28 02:09:39 funkatron: nice, joined! Mar 28 02:09:42 wee Mar 28 02:10:07 gg? Mar 28 02:10:17 Google Group Mar 28 02:10:36 ah… ok Mar 28 02:10:40 took me a sec to get it too :) Mar 28 02:11:22 lol Mar 28 02:11:34 I thought it was something to do with "git" Mar 28 02:11:52 lulz Mar 28 02:12:39 well, my site got a decent number of views today :) Mar 28 02:12:46 congratulations Mar 28 02:12:46 well, decent for me... Mar 28 02:12:54 a whole 22!!! lol Mar 28 02:13:02 * halfhalo is slghtly pissed that two sites he runs have no ads on them Mar 28 02:13:18 then put ads on them? Mar 28 02:13:44 halfhalo: can webOS run SVG? Mar 28 02:14:15 no afaik Mar 28 02:14:24 man Mar 28 02:14:27 thanks tib Mar 28 02:14:47 that's what cloudmade uses.... Mar 28 02:16:02 I have no idea... Mar 28 02:16:12 and i run the servers that run the sites, not the actual sites Mar 28 02:16:16 they are gadget review sites Mar 28 02:16:30 oh lol.. Mar 28 02:29:18 PatrickC_Pre2: looks like we don't have it Mar 28 02:29:33 PatrickC_Pre2: there were some posts about it on the forum Mar 28 02:29:51 well, I'll have to find a different way then.... Mar 28 02:29:57 thx Mar 28 02:31:01 yw. It's just sad Mar 28 02:31:13 yea.. it is Mar 28 02:31:51 it would be a lot easier if it was supported.. but I'll figure a way around it (hopefully) Mar 28 02:34:43 too bad I cannot use Koto Player Mar 28 02:34:53 how come? Mar 28 02:35:30 brb Mar 28 02:35:46 * halfhalo got it for kicks Mar 28 02:35:51 I still have an old Pre Plus Mar 28 02:35:55 so.. no webOS 2.0 Mar 28 02:37:59 Spanska: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/WebOS_2_Upgrade Mar 28 02:38:11 YMMV, be sure to do a lot of reading, etc Mar 28 02:39:12 well, I know it's possible but the Pre Plus is soooo slow, I'm afraid it would be worse with 2.0 Mar 28 02:39:58 i've heard it gets speedier, but i don't have a pre plus with 2.x to really comment Mar 28 02:40:16 * Tibfib sends subliminial messages to buy koto Mar 28 02:40:36 subliminal messages too Mar 28 02:40:48 2.1 is great on Pre Plus Mar 28 02:40:56 on Pre Minus it lags a little Mar 28 02:41:06 even on the AT&T one?:P Mar 28 02:42:06 will I have a second chance to make the App Catalog works this time if I use a SIM card of a provider that distributes Pre phones? Mar 28 02:46:42 if you are locked about because of geo-restriction, I don't think so Mar 28 02:47:05 * oil_pre suddenly wants to buy koto Mar 28 02:47:50 oil_pre: do it! Mar 28 02:47:58 well, I have a very limited App Catalog, I can only see very few free apps, I don't see all of them and I doubt so few are available in Canada Mar 28 02:48:19 * dkirker wants to implement link cable support in Visual Boy Advance Mar 28 02:51:14 dkirker: that'd be so awesome Mar 28 02:51:22 oil_pre: you mean you haven't!!?!?!?!?!? Mar 28 02:51:32 Tibfib: I know! Especially for Pokemon! Mar 28 02:51:52 dkirker: heheh Mar 28 02:51:56 * oil_pre has no webos 2 device with a profile Mar 28 02:52:12 oil_pre: heh, then why'd you ask for keyboard controls one day? Mar 28 02:52:43 because it's a good idea? Mar 28 02:52:52 * Tibfib shrugs Mar 28 02:52:56 fair enough :) Mar 28 02:54:53 <{aaron}> anybody using jquery mobile on webos? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Mar 28 02:59:57 2011