**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Apr 02 02:59:58 2011
Apr 02 03:02:24 <Xuzz> NuttyBunny: I do.
Apr 02 03:02:53 <NuttyBunny> Ah, cool, with what carrier did you activate it? AT&T?
Apr 02 03:02:57 <Xuzz> yeah
Apr 02 03:04:23 <NuttyBunny> great, thanks! :D
Apr 02 03:04:59 <Xuzz> (what's that for?)
Apr 02 03:07:01 <NuttyBunny> to know how should I activate my Pre 2, if Palm ever send it to me... hehehe
Apr 02 03:07:50 <anotherguy> hey guys - trying to figure out how to add new contact information in the Contacts App after a user taps an icon within my app. Something like how you might download a Vcard and then save the data from it to the contact app. Any ideas?
Apr 02 03:09:48 <NuttyBunny> there are docs about selecting a contact from the contacts app, but you want to update a contact info within your app, right?
Apr 02 03:10:19 <NuttyBunny> Chuq said somewhere that that APIs had changed in 2.x, you should ask him in the Palm forums
Apr 02 03:10:39 <anotherguy> right - ok - heading there now
Apr 02 03:10:42 <anotherguy> thanks
Apr 02 03:29:01 <Spanska> Any ideas if webOS 2.1 supports WebSockets?
Apr 02 03:30:45 <halfhalo> nope, it doesn't
Apr 02 03:31:06 <halfhalo> long polling, yes though
Apr 02 03:32:28 <Spanska> what's long polling?
Apr 02 03:42:38 <halfhalo> long polling is another way to get push data in a client, where the server and client keep the connection open until more data is sent from the server
Apr 02 03:54:03 <Spanska> ok and node.js supports using it as a client to connect on a remote TCP server, right?
Apr 02 03:56:35 <halfhalo> node can function as a tcp client, yes
Apr 02 04:06:18 <Spanska> oh, there were so many changes to the services in 2.1...
Apr 02 04:08:44 * dkirker falls over
Apr 02 04:08:50 <dkirker> can't... get... up...
Apr 02 04:10:26 <halfhalo> lulz
Apr 02 04:13:28 <halfhalo> dkirker: how's palm treating you?
Apr 02 04:13:43 <dkirker> halfhalo: Not bad. Very good actually. Keeping me busy.
Apr 02 04:13:52 <halfhalo> nice
Apr 02 04:14:24 <PatrickC_Pre> nuttybunny: ping
Apr 02 04:15:19 <Spanska> PatrickC_Pre: I finally upgraded my AT&T Pre+ the day you suggested it
Apr 02 04:15:37 <PatrickC_Pre> :) do you like it?
Apr 02 04:15:50 <Spanska> I sure do and it's not slow as I thought it could have been
Apr 02 04:16:00 <Spanska> I was surprised how easy it was to setup 3G this time
Apr 02 04:16:25 <PatrickC_Pre> I run on sprint, and its fast for me on the Pre-
Apr 02 04:16:42 <Spanska> and the fact there was French in the choice of languages.. even though the formats for numbers and such aren't correct and I had to report it to Palm even though they probably knew about it
Apr 02 04:17:06 <PatrickC_Pre> well, it is a meta-doctor ;)
Apr 02 04:17:28 <Spanska> I would be curious to know if it's good at all on a native Pre2
Apr 02 04:17:43 <PatrickC_Pre> its amazing
Apr 02 04:17:49 <PatrickC_Pre> I love my pre2
Apr 02 04:17:59 <Spanska> next challenge, completely redo my app with 2.1
Apr 02 04:18:10 <PatrickC_Pre> lol
Apr 02 04:18:29 <Spanska> that should be a good one
Apr 02 04:18:40 <PatrickC_Pre> what apps are they?
Apr 02 04:19:27 <Spanska> well, I've never released it because it was friggin' slow.. too much hacking to make things work but it will let a user add known holidays to its calendar
Apr 02 04:19:54 <Spanska> I've good a few more ideas, probably way too many for my coding speed heh
Apr 02 04:20:07 <PatrickC_Pre> lol.. it sounds like a good idea
Apr 02 04:20:25 <PatrickC_Pre> I'm not the best at coding either (just ask sineot or sugardave) lol
Apr 02 04:20:47 <Spanska> they helped me a lot, halfhalo helped me too
Apr 02 04:22:01 <Spanska> Palm added a lot of features that used to be available with patches in 1.4.5 and that's great
Apr 02 04:23:39 <PatrickC_Pre> I know
Apr 02 04:24:13 <Spanska> just out of curiosity, have you seen any app that would let a user take "GPS bookmarks". I mean, record a location and quickly add a voice memo or written note to it?
Apr 02 04:24:59 <PatrickC_Pre> hmmm. I know that there are voice memo apps, and gps recording apps, but I don't think anyone put the 2 together yet
Apr 02 04:25:03 <PatrickC_Pre> you could :)
Apr 02 04:25:06 <Spanska> when we went to Greece and were visiting with the bus, I was thinking, it would have been so nice to have such an app to remember some good places to go back too.. there are some we couldn't find again after the bus ride
Apr 02 04:29:26 <PatrickC_Pre> cleaning up USB drive, then gonna doctor again, just for fun :)
Apr 02 04:29:58 <Spanska> I can't wait for the Pre 3, I wonder what carrier will release it here
Apr 02 04:30:14 <PatrickC_Pre> what country?
Apr 02 04:30:33 <Spanska> Canada
Apr 02 04:31:19 <PatrickC_Pre> ah ok
Apr 02 04:32:08 <oil> you mean: "ah ok, eh"
Apr 02 04:32:15 <halfhalo> lulz
Apr 02 04:32:19 <oil> :)
Apr 02 04:32:33 <PatrickC_Pre> lol, I was thinking that actually, then decided not to do it :p
Apr 02 04:32:53 <oil> canadians dont say eh nearly as much as americans make fun of them for
Apr 02 04:32:55 <PatrickC_Pre> I'm actually studying Canada in World Geography
Apr 02 04:34:21 <Spanska> and what are you learning?
Apr 02 04:34:25 <PatrickC_Pre2> is 166 MB of pictures too much?
Apr 02 04:34:37 <PatrickC_Pre2> hmm... just about the territories and stuff
Apr 02 04:37:41 * PatrickC_Pre2 is gonna try the CMD line while in recovery mode
Apr 02 04:38:00 <PatrickC_Pre2> nope :'(
Apr 02 04:38:28 <PatrickC_Pre2> wait... maybe.. it hadn't finished installing
Apr 02 04:39:56 <PatrickC_Pre2> it worked!!!!
Apr 02 04:44:13 <PatrickC_Pre2> april fools?
Apr 02 05:01:55 <PatrickC_Pre> does anyone know if you can watch the movies you stream from netflix on your pre?
Apr 02 05:05:17 <dohtem> dont think thats possible
Apr 02 05:05:37 <PatrickC_Pre> ok... that stinks
Apr 02 05:05:51 <dohtem> bug them for a webOS app
Apr 02 05:06:23 <PatrickC_Pre> hmmm... or do I just make one?
Apr 02 05:07:44 <PatrickC_Pre> dohtem: wanna help?
Apr 02 05:07:58 <PatrickC_Pre> I'm gonna try and make an awesome netflix app
Apr 02 05:08:46 <dohtem> heh, I dont think you can access videos through their API
Apr 02 05:09:44 <PatrickC_Pre> well, I can just make an app that does everything but that, and then implement that if/when they make it available
Apr 02 05:09:58 <PatrickC_Pre> thanks for the idea! :)
Apr 02 05:19:30 <PatrickC_Pre> and let the coding commence!
Apr 02 05:21:18 * dohtem bangs on the keyboard furiously
Apr 02 05:23:47 <oil> lucky you hit just those jeys
Apr 02 05:23:56 <oil> keys i mean
Apr 02 05:24:37 <dohtem> dude, you're... you're like totally wasted, man...
Apr 02 05:24:56 <halfhalo> and?
Apr 02 05:25:25 <halfhalo> everyone knows internal devs work better drunk
Apr 02 05:25:40 <dohtem> that explains the programmer art
Apr 02 05:25:51 <dohtem> :)
Apr 02 05:27:46 <PatrickC_Pre> if I would normally put something in a <script> tag on a webpage, where would I put it in an app?
Apr 02 05:27:56 <oil> in the app
Apr 02 05:28:11 <Xuzz> oil: so helpful! :p
Apr 02 05:28:30 <PatrickC_Pre> lol.. where in the app?
Apr 02 05:28:40 <dohtem> your scene assistant?
Apr 02 05:28:58 <fahhem> "Deranged mathematician commits first truly random shooting"
Apr 02 05:28:58 <fahhem> -- Onion News Network
Apr 02 05:29:14 <dohtem> lmao
Apr 02 05:29:15 * oil refuses to help those who can't at least try to help themselves
Apr 02 05:29:26 <PatrickC_Pre> well, ok...
Apr 02 05:29:39 <PatrickC_Pre> in the setup, or the handlecommand of my button
Apr 02 05:30:04 <PatrickC_Pre> I believe it would be one of those 2, correct?
Apr 02 05:30:32 <halfhalo> mebe
Apr 02 05:31:38 <dohtem> depends on what your code is doing
Apr 02 05:32:05 <dohtem> and assuming this is all mojo
Apr 02 05:32:55 <PatrickC_Pre> well, its pure JS
Apr 02 05:51:34 <PatrickC_Pre> well, I'm off to bed
Apr 02 05:51:36 <PatrickC_Pre> night all
Apr 02 06:18:22 <classyfy> Hey guys, when I do a back gesture in my app, my Application Menu isn't updated. Does anyone know how to fix that behavior?
Apr 02 06:24:57 <classyfy> anyone out there?
Apr 02 06:27:10 <SineOt> Dunno, classyfy, sorry :<
Apr 02 06:27:34 <classyfy> classfy: :( Last  bug till I beta my app tonight
Apr 02 06:28:30 <classyfy> shit haha its late
Apr 02 06:28:42 <classyfy> its my menuModel too
Apr 02 06:28:47 <classyfy> I've been up to late
Apr 02 06:31:17 <dkirker> I'm getting behind on Universe... :|
Apr 02 06:31:42 <zinge> Universe?
Apr 02 06:32:05 <dkirker> a web browser
Apr 02 06:32:16 <zinge> ah
Apr 02 06:32:39 <SineOt> a pretty awesome web browser
Apr 02 06:33:33 <dkirker> I'm debating if I want to finish moVox or not, or turn it into a Google Voice client in the interim
Apr 02 06:34:11 <SineOt> Loooord knows that there's a demand for good Google Voice clients
Apr 02 06:35:44 <dkirker> time to play super mario. Back in a bit.
Apr 02 06:36:09 <SineOt> dkirker: which one?
Apr 02 06:36:22 <SineOt> there is nothing more fun than beer + New Super Mario Bros Wii XD
Apr 02 06:50:08 <SineOt> AHHHhhhhh this IPA is so good
Apr 02 06:50:19 <SineOt> even if it takes almost 3 hours to finish a bottle
Apr 02 07:09:10 <classyfy> How do you get an app into the Preware beta feeds
Apr 02 07:44:06 <rwhitby> either via PreCentral or WebOS Internals
Apr 02 09:30:56 <hotdp> MetaView: is summer comming to your country too?
Apr 02 10:09:14 <MetaView> it's going to be hot this weekend
Apr 02 14:50:44 <Popple3_> Hey guys, I'm just starting out webOS dev, and I've hit a problem. I have a feeling I'm just doing something stupid. Can anyone see what I'm doing wrong here? http://pastebin.com/KFXUjTPm
Apr 02 14:52:08 <PatrickC_Pre> morning
Apr 02 14:52:23 <sandrstar> morning
Apr 02 14:52:24 <Popple3_> PatrickC_Pre: Morning
Apr 02 14:55:10 <leiru> hmpf
Apr 02 14:55:18 <Popple3_> it's not displaying anything for me at all
Apr 02 14:55:37 <Popple3_> ^probably should've mentioned that was the problem in my question
Apr 02 14:55:38 <PatrickC_Pre> what's up?
Apr 02 14:56:03 <Popple3_> PatrickC_Pre: I'm just trying to do something very basic before plugging my backend code into it: http://pastebin.com/KFXUjTPm
Apr 02 14:56:08 <Popple3_> just a simple list
Apr 02 14:56:09 <leiru> 1 day downtime of api = 1 bad review per day. x days up & running = 0 reviews. users ... .oO( )
Apr 02 14:56:12 <Popple3_> but it won't display
Apr 02 14:58:31 <PatrickC_Pre> leiru: what api? what app?
Apr 02 14:59:04 <leiru> my JSON API. easterhegg 2011.
Apr 02 15:00:31 <leiru> i certainly think, if users won't have to pay for an app, you get a lot more bad reviews.
Apr 02 15:06:38 <leiru> PatrickC_Pre: never start open source it's a quite thankless biz
Apr 02 15:07:01 <PatrickC_Pre> I was actually going open source lol
Apr 02 15:09:19 <Tibfib> leiru: lots of people disagree
Apr 02 15:10:15 <Tibfib> well. not with the "thankless" part, but with the "never start open source"
Apr 02 15:12:24 <PatrickC_Pre> tibfib: what license do you use?
Apr 02 15:12:36 <Tibfib> depends
Apr 02 15:12:43 <Tibfib> koto is gplv3
Apr 02 15:13:24 <palm_pixi> does anyone happen to have a spare 1.8" hdd?
Apr 02 15:18:45 <leiru> Tibfib: but koto costs money.
Apr 02 15:18:56 <Tibfib> yes?
Apr 02 15:19:09 <leiru> Tibfib: 16:55:57  < leiru> i certainly think, if users won't have to pay for an app, you get a lot more bad reviews.
Apr 02 15:19:25 <Tibfib> I have not found that true
Apr 02 15:20:57 <leiru> they will fastly give you a bad review instead of writing to support.
Apr 02 15:22:45 <sugardave> Popple3_: any errors in the logs?  are you by chance re-using this.attributes and this.model in another widget that we don't see?
Apr 02 15:28:25 * PatrickC_Pre is installing Koto and looking at the Uservoice section
Apr 02 15:29:26 <summatusmentis> I haven't tried Koto yet, I stream my music using ampache
Apr 02 15:29:49 <PatrickC_Pre> Koto doesn't stream iirc
Apr 02 15:30:42 <summatusmentis> no, it doesn't, I have use the ampache client
Apr 02 15:30:54 <summatusmentis> I just meant that's why I haven't tried koto
Apr 02 15:31:49 <PatrickC_Pre> I'm gonna try and put Amazon Cloud Player into it
Apr 02 15:32:38 <summatusmentis> if you can get that working, that'd be pretty awesome
Apr 02 15:33:00 <summatusmentis> I still think cloud player is expensive, but I like that there'd be an option for WebOS
Apr 02 15:37:21 <PatrickC_Pre> of course, they don't have a webOS SDK..
Apr 02 15:37:29 <PatrickC_Pre> why would they?
Apr 02 15:40:49 <PatrickC_Pre> I'm also trying to do Ampachr
Apr 02 15:41:41 <PatrickC_Pre> Ampache*
Apr 02 15:49:50 <summatusmentis> if you could make ampache work, that'd be even cooler
Apr 02 15:49:57 <summatusmentis> I would use that
Apr 02 15:50:40 <PatrickC_Pre> well, first I have to find their API :)
Apr 02 15:51:41 <summatusmentis> the amapche api? they document it, iirc
Apr 02 15:52:28 <PatrickC_Pre> I know, I'm about to leave, so I can't look for it now
Apr 02 15:54:20 <PatrickC_Pre> and I don't have time to look
Apr 02 15:54:30 <PatrickC_Pre> and I don't have an ampache server :)
Apr 02 15:58:04 <madnificent> which was the first publicly used webos version?
Apr 02 15:59:52 <dohtem> madnificent: http://kb.palm.com/wps/portal/kb/na/pre/p100eww/sprint/solutions/article/50607_en.html
Apr 02 16:00:28 <dohtem> 1.0.2 was the first update for the Pre-.  Not sure what version it originally shipped with
Apr 02 16:01:37 <madnificent> cool
Apr 02 16:04:20 * sandrstar has watched Crockfords lectures on JS and now writing app using JS the right way doesn't seem easy anymore
Apr 02 16:13:51 <Popple3_> sugardave: Sorry, I had an unexpected visitor there. There's no errors showing up in the logs, and it's the only widget in the scene
Apr 02 16:14:06 <Popple3_> (re: list problem)
Apr 02 16:30:33 <Popple3_> Anyone have any idea what's going on here? http://pastebin.com/KFXUjTPm Nothing displays, no errors in logs... :/
Apr 02 16:32:43 <Spanska> Are you sure this code is being run?
Apr 02 16:34:20 <Popple3_> yeah, if I log before and after it, both messages appear in the log
Apr 02 16:35:19 <Popple3_> Spanska: As in, before and after setupWidget
Apr 02 16:36:01 <Spanska> have you tried to write "items : " "items:" ?
Apr 02 16:37:02 <Popple3_> Spanska: no difference
Apr 02 16:37:19 <Spanska> are you using the right path for lists/home-list ?
Apr 02 16:39:29 <Popple3_> I think so... Where exactly should that be in my project folder? :/
Apr 02 16:39:31 <Spanska> I also mean, do you really have this file? app/views/home/lists/home-list
Apr 02 16:39:35 <Spanska> .html
Apr 02 16:40:02 <Popple3_> ah, I thought it was supposed to be in project_folder/lists/home-list.html
Apr 02 16:40:18 <Spanska> I'm no guru though, just a suggestion from my code ;)
Apr 02 16:41:09 <Popple3_> Spanska: Didn't work anyway... :(
Apr 02 16:41:31 <Popple3_> aha!
Apr 02 16:41:34 <Popple3_> got it
Apr 02 16:41:47 <Popple3_> app/views/lists/home-list.html
Apr 02 16:42:21 <Popple3_> Spanska: thanks, I would've been here for ages if you didn't say it should be somewhere else
Apr 02 16:42:29 <Spanska> oh, sorry, yeah I wrote it wrong
Apr 02 16:42:35 <Spanska> I shouldn't have put that /home/
Apr 02 16:42:57 <Popple3_> Spanska: No worries, thanks for that
Apr 02 16:43:02 <Spanska> np
Apr 02 16:43:30 <Popple3_> kinda strange that it didn't give me an error though
Apr 02 16:54:26 <leiru> *yawn*
Apr 02 16:55:02 * leiru tidied up his flat whole day and then wrote code. 
Apr 02 16:55:14 <leiru> first day with sunny 22° Celsius
Apr 02 16:55:22 <leiru> :-/
Apr 02 17:03:14 <Spanska> How can topScene().sceneName give me main while I can clearly see my spinner scene in the emulator?
Apr 02 17:09:06 <Spanska> ok.. got it..
Apr 02 17:32:20 <sugardave> dawm: less playing, more working!
Apr 02 17:52:44 <sash_> Pre Plus arrived today :)
Apr 02 17:53:02 <sash_> Updating to WebOS 2 now.
Apr 02 17:53:16 <Spanska> my list items won't show :(
Apr 02 17:54:32 <sash_> But I don't really know, which of the articles at webos-internals.org are deprecated. Is it still necessary to set the device into developer mode?
Apr 02 17:54:47 <Spanska> I did it for mine
Apr 02 17:55:07 <sugardave> Spanska: pastebin your stuff
Apr 02 17:55:31 <Spanska> http://pastebin.com/XAJwQF7b
Apr 02 17:55:39 <sash_> by typing "webos20090606"?
Apr 02 17:55:49 <Spanska> I tried commenting a lot of stuff to make it as simple as possible
Apr 02 17:56:02 <Spanska> sash_: yes
Apr 02 17:56:36 <Spanska> sash_: actually, hold on
Apr 02 17:57:20 <Spanska> sash_: I followed this: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/WebOS_2_Upgrade
Apr 02 17:57:23 <sugardave> Spanska: will it display if you don't have the filterFunction?
Apr 02 17:57:48 <Spanska> sugardave: I don't think so because it'll bail it's a FilterList.. I'll make it a simple list
Apr 02 17:58:37 <Spanska> oh, right they show now
Apr 02 17:58:44 <sugardave> cool
Apr 02 17:59:04 <Spanska> with a simple list without the itemTemplate and without the filterFunction
Apr 02 17:59:32 <sugardave> without the itemTemplate?
Apr 02 17:59:53 <sugardave> should be required for a list...
Apr 02 18:00:58 <Spanska> sorry, you're right, I didn't save my file
Apr 02 18:01:47 <sugardave> Spanska: then I'd look at the filterFunction as the likely culprit....if the rest of your list logic displays, like it sounds it does
Apr 02 18:02:21 <sash_> Well... It's not possible to totally brick that thing, is it?
Apr 02 18:02:23 <sugardave> Spanska: you might just need to bind this
Apr 02 18:02:32 <Spanska> oh, that must be it
Apr 02 18:02:38 <Spanska> because it's actually empty
Apr 02 18:02:40 <sash_> I haven't any files on it, so i don't care about backups
Apr 02 18:02:43 <Spanska> I didn't put any code yet
Apr 02 18:02:53 <sugardave> Spanska: haha
Apr 02 18:02:55 <Spanska> sash_: yeah, make sure you turn them off
Apr 02 18:03:15 <Spanska> sugardave: that shouldn't cause a problem a this point right? :p
Apr 02 18:03:34 <sugardave> Spanska: other than not providing results from the filter, sure..no problem!
Apr 02 18:05:02 <Spanska> alright, it was the binding.. should have seen this :|
Apr 02 18:17:30 <classyfy> Does anyone know how to make the view menu show the current scene linked in command
Apr 02 18:20:05 <Spanska> hrm, still not fixed
Apr 02 18:20:18 <Spanska> as soon as I change List to FilterList I cannot see the items
Apr 02 18:27:27 <dohtem> http://forums.precentral.net/marketplace/279750-palm-pre-2-gsm-unlocked-dev-phone.html -- people can't get one to test on, this guy is selling his dev pre2 for $350 :(
Apr 02 19:17:22 <hij1nx> does anyone have any good blog posts/info about getting webOS running on alternate hardware? i'd like to play with it on HTC's hardware...
Apr 02 19:20:43 <Xuzz> hij1nx: maybe #webos-internals?
Apr 02 19:20:58 <oil> some guy faked a picture of it running on a hero
Apr 02 19:21:16 <oil> i dont think anyone has done it
Apr 02 19:21:26 <oil> some guy put the emulator rom on a old dell laptop
Apr 02 19:22:07 <oil> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEv8ylI3jTM&feature=player_embedded
Apr 02 19:42:17 <Spanska> this FilterList will make me insane
Apr 02 19:42:26 <Tibfib> Spanska: post your code
Apr 02 19:42:32 <Tibfib> paste***
Apr 02 19:43:20 * oil throws filterlist out the window
Apr 02 19:43:20 <Spanska> I am testing with some code I found actually
Apr 02 19:43:30 * oil uses a list and does the filtering himself
Apr 02 19:43:30 <Spanska> http://webos101.com/FilterList
Apr 02 19:43:45 <Spanska> oil: with a filterfield?
Apr 02 19:43:55 <oil> a textwidget
Apr 02 19:45:48 <Spanska> I'll paste my code somewhere..
Apr 02 19:49:30 <Spanska> http://pastebin.com/fiKTWxP1
Apr 02 19:52:18 <Tibfib> Spanska: welll yeah, it won't work! you gotta put code in your filterfunction
Apr 02 19:52:20 <Tibfib> or am I missing somethign?
Apr 02 19:52:42 <Spanska> I thought the list should at least show up
Apr 02 19:52:45 <Tibfib> nope
Apr 02 19:52:50 <Tibfib> the filterfunction renders the items
Apr 02 19:53:12 <Tibfib> including the initial items
Apr 02 19:54:09 <Spanska> ok, I'll try something
Apr 02 19:54:31 * PatrickC_Pre2 waves hi to TibFib
Apr 02 19:54:33 <Tibfib> howdy
Apr 02 19:54:57 <PatrickC_Pre2> anyone here use Ampache?
Apr 02 19:56:17 <Tibfib> haeffb: ping
Apr 02 19:58:31 <PatrickC_Pre2> I found the ampache developer center.. now to implement it into the app :)
Apr 02 19:59:42 <PatrickC_Pre2> how does webOS handle PHP?
Apr 02 19:59:51 <PatrickC_Pre2> like .php files?
Apr 02 20:00:43 <PatrickC_Pre2> nuttybunny: how's the plugin comin?
Apr 02 20:01:06 <NuttyBunny> php is serverside :)
Apr 02 20:01:19 <PatrickC_Pre2> oh :o
Apr 02 20:01:24 <PatrickC_Pre2> well then.. lol
Apr 02 20:02:06 <dkirker> 'afternoon everyone
Apr 02 20:02:20 <PatrickC_Pre2> hay dkirker
Apr 02 20:02:33 <NuttyBunny> And.. the plugin, not much time yesterday, but at least today I will have some time to test it. If I can just make it give webOS the name in a field called "Username" instead of "Nickname",  I may send it to you for test ;)
Apr 02 20:02:36 <PatrickC_Pre2> is the Universe in order?
Apr 02 20:02:58 <PatrickC_Pre2> oooo I like to test things :)
Apr 02 20:03:14 <PatrickC_Pre2> but, right now fbook chat doesn't want to sign in...
Apr 02 20:03:49 <NuttyBunny> hehehe... be warned, it's full of extra stuff that we don't use in webOS, so I will have to clean it up
Apr 02 20:03:55 <NuttyBunny> lemme see if this one logs in
Apr 02 20:04:09 <Tibfib> NuttyBunny: hmm, what are you working on?
Apr 02 20:04:09 <NuttyBunny> ah, and it receives double messages :S
Apr 02 20:04:25 <PatrickC_Pre2> well, does it work at all? :)
Apr 02 20:04:28 <NuttyBunny> TibFib: The facebook chat messaging plugin
Apr 02 20:04:36 <Tibfib> nice
Apr 02 20:04:56 <NuttyBunny> hold on, I'm testing Ubuntu 11.04, have to install novacomd
Apr 02 20:05:05 <PatrickC_Pre2> 11.04?
Apr 02 20:05:13 <Xuzz> beta, probably
Apr 02 20:05:17 <NuttyBunny> yup
Apr 02 20:05:24 <NuttyBunny> betas are stable enough for me
Apr 02 20:05:25 <NuttyBunny> hehehe
Apr 02 20:05:46 <PatrickC_Pre2> lol
Apr 02 20:06:43 <PatrickC_Pre2> I'm running 10.xx or whatever the stable is..
Apr 02 20:06:51 <PatrickC_Pre2> I might try the beta ;)
Apr 02 20:07:49 <NuttyBunny> Well, the plugin logged on, getting all my contacts and their ... avatars?mmm... I thought I disabled that :S
Apr 02 20:09:50 <NuttyBunny> If you try to log in with the 3.0.6 facebook chat plugin, you have to use your fb username only and your password, you will login but you won't have any contacts on screen
Apr 02 20:11:48 <NuttyBunny> too bad the msn-pecan plugin isn't having the same luck... has anyone seen destinal around?
Apr 02 20:15:41 <PatrickC_Pre2> I like the avatars :)
Apr 02 20:17:36 <NuttyBunny> there, email sent, lemme know if it works :)
Apr 02 20:17:58 <Spanska> Now with this code: http://pastebin.com/DEyJhFk1 , I get a Error: Caught exception in List widget 'palm_anon_element_0mojo-scene-maincountryFilterList-filterlist' setup(): TypeError: Cannot read property 'parentNode' of null . What does that mean exactly?
Apr 02 20:18:48 <Tibfib> this.myListData needs to be an object array
Apr 02 20:18:58 <Tibfib> [{name: "blah"}, { ..}]
Apr 02 20:19:03 <NuttyBunny> PatrickC_Pre2: it won't sync with your facebook contacts (yet), I'm looking into it.. basically I lost all week trying to make the msn encryption work and I haven't been able do to so :S
Apr 02 20:19:31 <PatrickC_Pre2> ok, well if it at least lets me talk with 'em, I'm happy :)
Apr 02 20:19:49 <Tibfib> Spanska: also, I think your filterfunction will give you trouble
Apr 02 20:20:35 <Spanska> ok, I'll make it an object array as it was before
Apr 02 20:21:48 <Spanska> Tibfib: what's wrong with the filterFunction?
Apr 02 20:22:35 <Tibfib> well I guess nothing. but it does not filter things :)
Apr 02 20:23:21 <Spanska> you're right, I'm actually just trying to make the items appear
Apr 02 20:23:38 <Spanska> as soon as I get anything, I should be good to go to build it differently
Apr 02 20:23:58 * PatrickC_Pre2 is updating to Ubuntu Narty Narwhall (or something like that)
Apr 02 20:24:07 <NuttyBunny> Natty ;)
Apr 02 20:24:14 <NuttyBunny> Nutty Narwhall
Apr 02 20:24:18 <NuttyBunny> hehehe
Apr 02 20:24:25 <Spanska> I can't seem to find any working code for a filterList
Apr 02 20:27:59 <Tibfib> webos101 doesn't work?
Apr 02 20:29:57 <Spanska> no
Apr 02 20:32:06 <Spanska> actually, it partially works
Apr 02 20:32:14 <Spanska> if I type anything in the filter string, the items will be found
Apr 02 20:32:20 <Spanska> but it doesn't show anything at first
Apr 02 20:33:29 <Spanska> and it doesn't give me the error message I get
Apr 02 20:33:33 <Tibfib> Spanska: you need to set this.myListData as items under the listModel
Apr 02 20:33:55 <Tibfib> this.countryListModel = { items: this.myListData }
Apr 02 20:36:46 <Spanska> I remember trying this.. I'll try it with webos101's code
Apr 02 20:38:05 <Spanska> Ok, still no items
Apr 02 20:39:31 <PatrickC_Pre2> bbl
Apr 02 20:40:36 <Spanska> if I create a regular list and set items, it works, but as soon as I change my regular list to be a filterList, no items
Apr 02 20:41:30 <Spanska> I don't know if these are bugs are not
Apr 02 20:41:33 <Spanska> or not
Apr 02 20:46:05 <Spanska> if at least the documentation could be clear on these type of things it would be a good step forward
Apr 02 20:57:53 <dawm> lol @ sugardave
Apr 02 21:19:34 <dawm> about to toss a 500gb in my ps3 as soon as the drive formats ;D
Apr 02 21:19:44 <dawm> one massive 500gb fat32 partition lolz
Apr 02 21:38:26 <rsanchez1> hello
Apr 02 21:41:20 <rsanchez1> have any of you heard of the Pandora gaming system?
Apr 02 21:52:10 <Draecos> is that what they used in Avatar?
Apr 02 21:52:12 <Draecos> :)
Apr 02 21:52:19 <Draecos> sorry, time for bad jokes - its late
Apr 02 21:55:17 <rsanchez1> haha, no it's a handheld system with specs almost identical to the Pre
Apr 02 21:55:27 <rsanchez1> runs on Linux
Apr 02 21:56:53 <rsanchez1> tried one of the games from it, OpenTTD, and it runs fine unmodified on my Pre 2
Apr 02 21:58:59 <bpadalino> interesting
Apr 02 22:01:11 <rsanchez1> only problem is that the fonts are a little small, probably since the Pandora has an 800x400 screen
Apr 02 22:08:11 <madnificent> rsanchez1: I didn't know the hardware was similar!
Apr 02 22:08:23 <rsanchez1> uses pretty much the same CPU
Apr 02 22:08:26 <madnificent> rsanchez1: wasn't pandora's goal to get a lot of free games on it?
Apr 02 22:08:49 <madnificent> rsanchez1: if you could build an app which allows us to play pandora games, then that'd be awesome
Apr 02 22:08:54 <rsanchez1> I think so, it was meant to be an open system used with open software
Apr 02 22:09:22 <rsanchez1> I'm trying to get mupen64 to run on my Pre 2
Apr 02 22:10:39 <madnificent> rsanchez1: as I'm just interested: how would I run http://pdroms.de/news/24778/
Apr 02 22:10:53 <madnificent> (yes, I simply picked one which looked like it had a cool image)
Apr 02 22:12:00 <rsanchez1> you have to extract the files in the .pnd
Apr 02 22:12:37 <madnificent> which is a tgz, I assume?
Apr 02 22:13:02 <madnificent> and after extracting them?
Apr 02 22:14:35 <rsanchez1_> gah, webchat disconnected
Apr 02 22:14:50 <madnificent> rsanchez1_: I have read up to "you have to extract the files in the .pnd"
Apr 02 22:15:08 <madnificent> ftr: I would like for what you did to be documented somewhere, logging in this channel is the best option so far :)
Apr 02 22:15:40 <madnificent> rsanchez1_: so I asked.  Which is a tgz, I assume?
Apr 02 22:15:49 <madnificent> and after extracting them?  END
Apr 02 22:16:01 <rsanchez1_> it's more like an iso
Apr 02 22:16:04 <rsanchez1_> so you have to mount it
Apr 02 22:16:14 <rsanchez1_> I did mount /path/to/pnd /mnt
Apr 02 22:16:23 <rsanchez1_> then I copied the files in /mnt to a directory on my Pre
Apr 02 22:16:56 <madnificent> rsanchez1_: which filesystem did you specify? -o loop -t iso9660 ?
Apr 02 22:17:18 <rsanchez1_> -o loop
Apr 02 22:17:28 <madnificent> cool
Apr 02 22:17:29 <rsanchez1_> sorry it was mount /path/to/pnd -o loop /mnt
Apr 02 22:17:40 <madnificent> just trying to get all info out of you :)
Apr 02 22:17:49 <madnificent> and how do you start it?  Internalz?
Apr 02 22:18:12 <rsanchez1_> terminal
Apr 02 22:18:23 <rsanchez1_> there's a file PXML.xml in the .pnd
Apr 02 22:18:33 <madnificent> hmm
Apr 02 22:18:42 <rsanchez1_> and the application tag in the xml file should contain the executable you should run
Apr 02 22:19:03 <rsanchez1_> something like <exec command="app">
Apr 02 22:19:20 <rsanchez1_> so I would run that from the command line
Apr 02 22:20:17 <madnificent> that should be complete information for the next guy trying to run something, I guess
Apr 02 22:20:21 * madnificent tries it just to be sure
Apr 02 22:20:27 <madnificent> rsanchez1_: give me 10 minutes :)
Apr 02 22:21:01 <rsanchez1_> mupen64 is a little more dependent on Pandora than OpenTTD :(
Apr 02 22:21:17 <madnificent> rsanchez1_: ok, so not everything will run fine
Apr 02 22:22:10 <rsanchez1_> I guess not, just the games that are really standalone
Apr 02 22:24:46 <rsanchez1_> actually, it looks like it's just missing a lib
Apr 02 22:25:02 <rsanchez1_> gonna try to get it
Apr 02 22:25:20 <madnificent> rsanchez1_: could it be a failing link?
Apr 02 22:25:40 <madnificent> I just tried something (just uploaded it to the pre) and it messed about links not existing on the pre's filesystem
Apr 02 22:25:50 <madnificent> which is actually a non-issue if you'd create an app out of it, I think
Apr 02 22:26:14 <rsanchez1_> I don't know about that one, but my issue is: error wile loading shared libraries: libts-1.0.so.0
Apr 02 22:26:45 <rsanchez1_> you might have to mess with some config files for your program
Apr 02 22:27:17 <madnificent> ah, perhaps pandora ships with a bunch of extra libraries?
Apr 02 22:27:56 <rsanchez1_> it probably does
Apr 02 22:28:25 <rsanchez1_> libts, used for touchscreens
Apr 02 22:29:59 <madnificent> fonts are an issue
Apr 02 22:31:31 <madnificent> we could check if we could set the game resolution for some games... but I doubt it
Apr 02 22:32:29 <madnificent> daimonin tries to connect to a server and that fails.  Any idea on how to fake the buttons on the keyboard?
Apr 02 22:32:38 <madnificent> rsanchez1_: + what a nice discovery of you :)
Apr 02 22:32:54 <madnificent> + it'll be better on the pre3
Apr 02 22:33:12 <rsanchez1_> yeah, the Pre 3 has the screen size of the Pandora
Apr 02 22:34:01 <rsanchez1_> if there is a config file with keymappings, you could try that
Apr 02 22:34:19 <rsanchez1_> try SDLKeys: http://www.libsdl.org/docs/html/sdlkey.html
Apr 02 22:37:33 * madnificent can't find a config file with that
Apr 02 22:38:57 <rsanchez1_> gah, I put the library on my Pre, and now I'm getting: sh: getcwd: No such file or directory
Apr 02 22:39:39 <rsanchez1_> oh, nvm that's a problem with the terminal
Apr 02 22:41:19 <rsanchez1_> @madnificent: could you get that game running?
Apr 02 22:42:10 <madnificent> audiorace fails, but I could get daimonin running, yes
Apr 02 22:42:29 <madnificent> I couldn't actually get sense out of it, it needs a server or something of the likes
Apr 02 22:42:38 <rsanchez1_> oh
Apr 02 22:42:58 <rsanchez1_> well for the ones we can get running, we can just package them up and put them on Preware if they look good enough
Apr 02 22:43:41 <madnificent> wouldn't it be about as feasible to create one app which runs them all?  Just links to the sites and a way to say "I want to run the app in directory...
Apr 02 22:43:45 <madnificent> ah no, it'd be harder :(
Apr 02 22:44:04 <madnificent> yeah, if they run well, we could just place them there... we could probably make a script to do all the work :)
Apr 02 22:46:50 <rsanchez1_> that's a good idea
Apr 02 22:49:01 <madnificent> it's basically parsing an xml file, packaging it up and launching it.  I've never done anything of the likes, but if we can connect to the shell from javascript or the PDK somehow (we can, I don't know how) then it's basically writing a stub and that'd be it, no?
Apr 02 22:49:58 <rsanchez1_> I think we can just package it like any other PDK app
Apr 02 22:50:45 <madnificent> yeah, maybe we'll need to do some configuration
Apr 02 22:51:22 <madnificent> I just saw opentyrian failing with the message "You must send SDL_INIT_VIDEO as a flag to SDL_Init Palm applications.  You must also call SDL_SetVideoMode
Apr 02 22:51:30 <madnificent> so there might be a little more to it.
Apr 02 22:51:43 <madnificent> either case, /me is going to hack on lisp addict for a moment :)
Apr 02 22:51:58 <madnificent> rsanchez1_: and very very cool discovery of you!
Apr 02 22:52:48 <rsanchez1_> oh right, I think you'll need that to launch from the launcher
Apr 02 22:53:32 <rsanchez1_> well, all of these games should be open source, so...
Apr 02 22:54:19 <madnificent> yeah, I think we're a few days of hacking off from getting them to run on the pre.  When I find the time, I'll play with it.  I'll notify you here when I do so :)
Apr 02 22:54:21 <madnificent> it's cool :)
Apr 02 22:56:19 <rsanchez1_> I'm hoping I can get mupen64 to run
Apr 02 22:56:27 <rsanchez1_> N64 emulator on Pre(!!)
Apr 02 23:00:06 <madnificent> lol
Apr 02 23:00:26 <madnificent> rsanchez1_: a few more years and the pre becomes a wii-mote with a wii built in...
Apr 02 23:03:20 <rsanchez1_> I also want to try some of the browsers available for Pandora
Apr 02 23:11:00 <rsanchez1_> mupen64 depends on too many libraries (!!!)
Apr 02 23:32:00 <madnificent> rsanchez1_: one app at a time, take simple ones first :)
Apr 02 23:34:06 <rsanchez1_> I want to take the fun ones first
Apr 02 23:54:40 <Spanska> What's wrong with this? this.controller.get("countryFilterList").mojo.getLength()
Apr 02 23:57:51 <Spanska> Oh, got it.. widget no instantiated yet..
Apr 03 00:10:39 <SineOt> Node.js is pretty darn awesome!
Apr 03 00:24:40 <PatrickC_Pre2> dawm: did you ever get that hard drive installed?
Apr 03 00:36:24 <PatrickC_Pre2> nuttybunn: you around?
Apr 03 00:36:58 <PatrickC_Pre2> nuttybunny*
Apr 03 00:37:31 <NuttyBunny> yep, whassup? did you do the debugging?
Apr 03 00:37:52 <PatrickC_Pre2> not yet, can you tell the commands to run again?
Apr 03 00:40:17 <NuttyBunny> mmm...  use xterm or better yet, novaterm
Apr 03 00:41:00 <NuttyBunny>  /media/internal/DebugMP_Account_Creation.sh
Apr 03 00:41:12 <NuttyBunny> run that and try to create the account
Apr 03 00:41:35 <NuttyBunny> when it dies, look for the file that got created in the DebugMP folder in your Pre usb drive
Apr 03 00:42:08 <PatrickC_Pre2> what was the command again?
Apr 03 00:43:44 <NuttyBunny> run that and try to create the account
Apr 03 00:43:47 <NuttyBunny>  /media/internal/DebugMP_Account_Creation.sh
Apr 03 00:43:50 <NuttyBunny> that one :)
Apr 03 00:44:06 <PatrickC_Pre2> ok :)
Apr 03 00:48:31 <dawm> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sBlfRswpt0
Apr 03 00:48:32 <dawm> win
Apr 03 00:49:15 <PatrickC_Pre2> nutty: done debugging
Apr 03 00:51:31 <PatrickC_Pre2> nuttybunny: check inbox
Apr 03 00:55:00 <NuttyBunny> ah, right, the json file, hold on
Apr 03 00:55:10 <PatrickC_Pre2> ok
Apr 03 00:55:26 <PatrickC_Pre2> glad you could make sense of it :p
Apr 03 00:55:32 <PatrickC_Pre2> (though I didn't try to)
Apr 03 00:56:28 <NuttyBunny> hehehe.. I've been around those logs for about 2 weeks now :)
Apr 03 00:57:27 <PatrickC_Pre2> oil: you around?
Apr 03 00:58:51 <PatrickC_Pre2> nuttybunny: thanks, I'll try it now
Apr 03 01:01:53 <PatrickC_Pre2> signing in
Apr 03 01:03:06 <PatrickC_Pre2> nuttybunny: hmmmm.. it created the account, but won't log in
Apr 03 01:03:33 <NuttyBunny> ok, at least... now go offline and run:
Apr 03 01:03:45 <NuttyBunny>   /media/internal/DebugMP_Login.sh
Apr 03 01:03:57 <PatrickC_Pre2> ok
Apr 03 01:04:01 <NuttyBunny> leave it until it goes offline again and send me the log
Apr 03 01:05:46 <PatrickC_Pre2> hmm. it looks like its outputting all my friends list as part of the debug...
Apr 03 01:05:50 <haeffb> Tibfib: belated pong
Apr 03 01:06:14 <PatrickC_Pre2> it logged in now
Apr 03 01:06:21 <PatrickC_Pre2> I only see numbers, no names
Apr 03 01:08:39 <PatrickC_Pre2> hay haeffb
Apr 03 01:09:40 <haeffb> hay PatrickC_Pre2
Apr 03 01:09:48 <haeffb> thanks for the bug report
Apr 03 01:10:20 <PatrickC_Pre2> on what?
Apr 03 01:14:59 <Spanska> oh, filter lists
Apr 03 01:17:09 <PatrickC_Pre2> cwayne: where's my frankenpre2????
Apr 03 01:17:22 <NuttyBunny> Palm: Where's my Pre 2??!!!
Apr 03 01:17:24 <NuttyBunny> ;)
Apr 03 01:17:44 <PatrickC_Pre2> chuqui: where's my touchpad?
Apr 03 01:19:01 <cwayne> PatrickC_Pre2: lol
Apr 03 01:19:33 <rsanchez1_> dude: where's my car?
Apr 03 01:20:14 <haeffb> noted
Apr 03 01:23:17 * haeffb been burning grass all day
Apr 03 01:23:24 <haeffb> tired.
Apr 03 01:23:35 <NuttyBunny> stoned you mean?
Apr 03 01:25:35 * sugardave laffs.
Apr 03 01:28:25 <dawm> PatrickC_Pre2, yeah
Apr 03 01:28:41 <dawm> followed a flawed guide so i had to dig up another hdd. its restoring now
Apr 03 01:28:43 <PatrickC_Pre2> sweet
Apr 03 01:28:48 <dawm> system reads 465GB
Apr 03 01:29:02 <PatrickC_Pre2> still almost twice the stock :)
Apr 03 01:29:13 <dawm> really wish manufacturers would really stick to proper count for GBs
Apr 03 01:29:16 <dawm> i had a 120
Apr 03 01:29:45 <dawm> no reason tho for me to upgrade, a friend gave me a 500gb that was in his old laptop that is now broke
Apr 03 01:29:51 <dawm> figured id use it rather than let it collect dust
Apr 03 01:30:03 <PatrickC_Pre2> cool
Apr 03 01:30:10 * PatrickC_Pre2 needs an upgraded hdd
Apr 03 01:30:25 <dawm> i wish the xbox was as easy
Apr 03 01:30:30 <dawm> i really need a larger hdd on that
Apr 03 01:30:36 <dawm> rockin the stock 20gb
Apr 03 01:30:49 <PatrickC_Pre2> lol, buy a new one?
Apr 03 01:30:58 <Popple3_> hello again guys, got my app working fine so far in webOS 1.4.5 on my Pixi, but it won't work on 2.1 on my Pre 2
Apr 03 01:30:59 <dawm> they want way too much for what it actually is :P
Apr 03 01:31:00 <PatrickC_Pre2> the new xbox360 or old one?
Apr 03 01:31:04 <dawm> old
Apr 03 01:31:13 <Popple3_> I know where the app is failing (Ajax.Request)
Apr 03 01:31:14 <PatrickC_Pre2> so, the Arcade?
Apr 03 01:31:17 <dawm> i got it back before the first price drop
Apr 03 01:31:25 <dawm> no i have the pro or whatever
Apr 03 01:31:28 <Popple3_> but I'm stuck at that point...
Apr 03 01:31:33 <dawm> before arcade was available ;p
Apr 03 01:31:35 * halfhalo has a 4GB hd in one of his 360's and a 250 in another
Apr 03 01:31:44 <dawm> i think i paid $500~ for my 360
Apr 03 01:31:48 <PatrickC_Pre2> I like the pro, but the Elite is better :)
Apr 03 01:32:00 <dawm> i got my pro like 2 months before the elite came out
Apr 03 01:32:07 <PatrickC_Pre2> aww
Apr 03 01:32:17 <dawm> i got my ps3 when the xbox RRoD'd
Apr 03 01:32:30 <dawm> had to ship it out, needed somethign to play dvds
Apr 03 01:32:38 <dawm> had extra cash from working 30days straight at work :P
Apr 03 01:33:10 <Popple3_> any ideas what's going on here? http://pastebin.com/eUGQAYVS
Apr 03 01:34:08 <PatrickC_Pre2> Popple3_ in not good with ajax...
Apr 03 01:34:18 <PatrickC_Pre2> but sugardave is good with everything ;)
Apr 03 01:36:09 <Popple3_> PatrickC_Pre2: No worries, and thanks for that little nudge to sugardave ;)
Apr 03 01:36:18 <PatrickC_Pre2> hehe
Apr 03 01:37:27 <Popple3_> I was all excited when I saw it working on my Pixi, but then I loaded it on my Pre 2 and got knocked down :(
Apr 03 01:40:21 <PatrickC_Pre2> :/
Apr 03 01:40:33 <PatrickC_Pre2> the pre2 was updated to 2.1 correct?
Apr 03 01:40:40 <Popple3_> yeah
Apr 03 01:40:47 <PatrickC_Pre2> ok
Apr 03 01:41:06 <PatrickC_Pre2> have you tried it on a legacy device with 2.1?
Apr 03 01:41:51 <Popple3_> no, I don't have a legacy device with 2.1, but I wouldn't think it would make a difference really
Apr 03 01:43:13 <PatrickC_Pre2> probably not, just wonderin
Apr 03 01:43:30 <haeffb> little bluestem and big bluestem
Apr 03 01:43:42 <haeffb> and indian grass
Apr 03 01:44:06 <PatrickC_Pre2> you got a rider or walk behind?
Apr 03 01:44:06 <haeffb> all three lack THC
Apr 03 01:44:32 <haeffb> bic lighter
Apr 03 01:44:54 <grizzler> sorry to butt in and change the topic, but is anyone intrested in a zune
Apr 03 01:45:06 <haeffb> uhm.
Apr 03 01:45:07 <haeffb> nope.
Apr 03 01:45:15 <PatrickC_Pre2> for free I am :)
Apr 03 01:45:17 <grizzler> :3
Apr 03 01:45:36 <grizzler> it needs a new hdd,hence the reason why im selling :3
Apr 03 01:46:31 <haeffb> alicia keys empire state of mind is an awesome tune.
Apr 03 01:46:57 * haeffb is going to be very random tonight
Apr 03 01:47:12 * grizzler is with haeffb
Apr 03 01:47:20 <PatrickC_Pre2> you are always random
Apr 03 01:47:22 * PatrickC_Pre2 ducks
Apr 03 01:47:31 * grizzler jumps over PatrickC_Pre2
Apr 03 01:47:54 * PatrickC_Pre2 trips grizzler in midair
Apr 03 01:49:12 <Spanska> Tibfib: using code in Koto with some changes to adapt it a bit to my other code it works, now I just have to change it progressively to my own to figure out what I missed
Apr 03 01:49:41 <PatrickC_Pre2> what app Spanska? (forgive me if I've already asked :)
Apr 03 01:50:07 <Spanska> PatrickC_Pre: the same app I'm redoing on webOS 2.1, Holiday Dates
Apr 03 01:50:22 * PatrickC_Pre would like that app
Apr 03 01:54:37 <randomperson> Anyone know why when i restart my Pre (-) with 2.1 there is always a "com.palm.appcatalog.20900.ipk" or something like that it's the same name as the default app catalog
Apr 03 01:55:08 <PatrickC_Pre> it is the default app catalog?
Apr 03 01:55:14 <randomperson> if you install it and or delete it and restatr it comes back
Apr 03 01:55:29 <randomperson> it shows up in my dowloads folder
Apr 03 01:55:32 <PatrickC_Pre> hmm
Apr 03 01:55:57 <PatrickC_Pre> I know the com.palm.findapps like to hang around on my usb drive...
Apr 03 01:56:08 <PatrickC_Pre> but I've never seen a com.palm.appcatalog
Apr 03 01:56:20 <randomperson> in /media/internaldownloads
Apr 03 01:56:29 <PatrickC_Pre> lemme check mine
Apr 03 01:56:40 <randomperson> it might be com.palm.appcatalog
Apr 03 01:56:49 * grizzler has no palm device :3
Apr 03 01:57:28 <PatrickC_Pre> all I see is the findapps
Apr 03 01:58:06 <randomperson> i need to restart my phone as i deleted the file, it should come back
Apr 03 01:58:31 <randomperson> it has the same version number as the currently installed app catalog
Apr 03 01:58:42 <randomperson> 20900 I think
Apr 03 01:59:10 * PatrickC_Pre just installed KotoPlayer
Apr 03 01:59:20 <PatrickC_Pre> thanks for the files tibfib! :)
Apr 03 02:00:06 <NuttyBunny> findapps is the app catalog
Apr 03 02:00:19 <PatrickC_Pre> I thought so
Apr 03 02:00:35 <randomperson> I think so too but why would it keep downloading itself?
Apr 03 02:01:51 <NuttyBunny> maybe it's an update
Apr 03 02:02:02 <PatrickC_Pre> hmm
Apr 03 02:02:08 <PatrickC_Pre> I never thought of that
Apr 03 02:02:50 <PatrickC_Pre> mine isnt,
Apr 03 02:03:14 <randomperson> i tried and successfully installed it, but it downloads again
Apr 03 02:03:17 <Popple3> I think I've figured out what's happening... For some reason Ajax.Request is timing out on webOS 2.1... :/
Apr 03 02:03:53 <randomperson> ...after the next reboot
Apr 03 02:05:23 <randomperson> what version of the appcatalog do anyof you have?
Apr 03 02:06:12 <PatrickC_Pre> 2.0.2009 I believe
Apr 03 02:21:27 <Spanska> PatrickC_Pre: I guess I should release it in a couple months if everything goes fine, I keep having issues with things that aren't much documented
Apr 03 02:21:57 <Spanska> I had it almost all done, it was working fine in the emu but on a real device there were major performance issues :(
Apr 03 02:24:33 <PatrickC_Pre> ok, just lemme know :)
Apr 03 02:24:36 <PatrickC_Pre> I can also beta it
Apr 03 02:31:46 <Popple3> scratch that, it isn't timing out, it's 404-ing for some reason... :/
Apr 03 02:32:19 <Spanska> PatrickC_Pre: It'll be free
Apr 03 02:32:26 <PatrickC_Pre> cool
Apr 03 02:33:06 <Tibfib> Spanska: hmm? were you using the code in my filterFunction?
Apr 03 02:33:26 <Spanska> Tibfib: no
Apr 03 02:33:34 <Tibfib> what are you referring to?
Apr 03 02:33:44 <Spanska> actually, yes, I was using it as a test
Apr 03 02:34:53 <Popple3> anyone else ever have an Ajax request work fine in 1.4.5, but 404 in 2.1?
Apr 03 02:47:04 <Spanska> so much easier with a filterlist when it works
Apr 03 02:47:55 <Spanska> Tibfib: thanks for pointing me towards the filterFunction, it was definitely the culprit
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