**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Apr 07 02:59:59 2011 Apr 07 03:05:46 what's the earliest firmware with exhibition? Apr 07 03:06:11 2.1? Apr 07 03:06:19 2.0.1 didnt Apr 07 03:06:55 Yeah, 2.1. Apr 07 03:07:20 Although it was apparently available in some 2.0.1 builds, butā€¦ They'd hardly be called proper 2.0.1 Apr 07 03:07:30 they were not 2.0.1 Apr 07 03:07:39 ok, I have my pre 2 doctored with 2.0.1. how do I get to 2.1? Apr 07 03:07:46 ota Apr 07 03:07:48 or doctor Apr 07 03:07:48 some people incorrectly called some leaked doctors 2.0.1 Apr 07 03:08:00 the leaked doctors were 2.1 correct? Apr 07 03:08:06 they were not Apr 07 03:08:18 oh.. I thought they were... Apr 07 03:08:23 They were more like 2.In.The.Middle.Between Apr 07 03:08:29 yep Apr 07 03:08:38 heh, explains my confusion Apr 07 03:08:42 2.0.5ish Apr 07 03:09:02 dohtem: just OTA (if you can) or doctor with 2.1 Apr 07 03:09:17 assuming a 2.1 doctor is available for your Pre 2 Apr 07 03:09:25 haeffb: meh, tomorrow's phone call bumped to Friday Apr 07 03:09:27 cant ota, its a dev phone Apr 07 03:09:44 GSM US? Apr 07 03:09:56 vzw cdma Apr 07 03:10:18 they are on 2.1 I believe Apr 07 03:10:20 rwhitby, has anyone found where Exhibition actually 'lives?' I've been digging around to try to find where it actively shuts down the accelerometers for rotation, and can't for the life of me think where to even start Apr 07 03:11:04 its not in the media/cryptofs or the user/whatever-is-next/.. Apr 07 03:11:07 PatrickC_Pre2: they are no Apr 07 03:11:11 on 2.1 Apr 07 03:11:24 dohtem: 2.1 not available for vzw pre2 Apr 07 03:11:24 they aren't on 2.1? Apr 07 03:11:40 hmm.. ok, I'm learning a lot tonight lol Apr 07 03:11:49 It's probably a part of Luna itself, but I'm not quite sure where that lives either Apr 07 03:12:05 rwhitby: thanks Apr 07 03:12:09 probably native, yeah Apr 07 03:12:22 rwhitby: could a meta-doctor fix that? Apr 07 03:14:16 Lack of rotation in exhibition is pretty annoying Apr 07 03:14:29 I know... Apr 07 03:14:45 I wish it rotated... I'm working on gettin it to rotate too Apr 07 03:21:18 I must be crazy cause i can't figure this out, but how do you set a class of a div in a scene's assistant.js file? Apr 07 03:35:01 graywolf336: element.addClassName('theClassName'); Apr 07 03:35:19 it's Prototype, I think Apr 07 03:35:36 sugardave: thanks, is there any way that you know of that later i can remove and change to a different class? Apr 07 03:35:50 .removeClassName(...); Apr 07 03:36:08 wow that's it.. thanks again Apr 07 03:36:11 np Apr 07 03:45:29 Does webos 2 come with the same Google map app? Apr 07 03:46:05 Yup. Apr 07 03:48:05 No love from Google at all. That app is crap Apr 07 03:48:27 Probably why 3.0 is apparently ditching them for Bing Maps. Apr 07 03:49:36 Bing maps not as good to me but i guess anything is better than waiting 5 minutes for Google maps to load Apr 07 04:06:59 BFG maps should be the default map app Apr 07 04:07:51 BFG maps flew off the "looks good" train a long time ago. Apr 07 04:08:45 morning Apr 07 04:08:54 its more functional then google maps on webos Apr 07 04:09:00 morning sandstar Apr 07 04:10:09 cwayne: ping Apr 07 04:10:24 hay dkirker! how's it goin? Apr 07 04:12:25 sineot: mojo.cookie or SQLite? Apr 07 04:12:34 anyone know the normal default background color for webos apps? Apr 07 04:12:36 What are you storing Apr 07 04:12:37 Hi PatrickC_Pre2 Apr 07 04:12:59 sineot: just some preferences, nothing major Apr 07 04:13:50 Then just do a cookie Apr 07 04:14:53 ok.. would I be better using a global variables to save preferences in a cookie or just single cookies for each preference? Apr 07 04:17:01 I've just gone and done a single cookie for each pref, but that's just me. :p Apr 07 04:19:26 ok, I'll try a single cookie for each pref (only need 1 to get the app world legal) Apr 07 04:21:05 * rwhitby notes that git.webos-internals.org has many many source code examples of cookie hanlding Apr 07 04:21:15 s/hanlding/handling/ Apr 07 04:21:29 thanks rod, I'll probably take a look at them if I need help Apr 07 04:22:06 PatrickC_Pre2: also, I think that somebody wrote an example for multiple prefs per cookie. Apr 07 04:22:39 dkirker: hmm I'll look for that.. where do you think you saw it? on the forums, or the wiki? Apr 07 04:23:13 * rwhitby points again at working code with multiple prefs in cookies in webos-internals open source apps ... Apr 07 04:23:26 PatrickC_Pre2: webOS101. Also, what rwhitby said. Apr 07 04:24:05 thanks rwhitby! I'll defiantly use that! Apr 07 04:26:08 * sugardave remembers mentioning the cookie page at webos101 earlier. Apr 07 04:27:34 I looked at it sugardave, that's where I got the idea of Using global variables to save preferences in a cookie Apr 07 04:28:35 http://git.webos-internals.org/?p=applications/preware.git;a=blob;f=app/models/cookies.js Apr 07 04:28:41 sweet, so what's the problem? Apr 07 04:28:51 remember that file is GPL, so you can only cut and paste into other GPL apps Apr 07 04:29:28 rwhitby: is GPL a good license to use? I've been trying to figure out what license to use... Apr 07 04:29:59 sugardave: I haven't put anything into motion yet, it will probably happen over the weekend, or tomorrow.. is too late now Apr 07 04:30:12 just trying to figure out which cookie system to use. Apr 07 04:30:16 PatrickC_Pre2: GPL is a perfect license and an absolutely useless license, both at the same time, since you haven't said what objectives you want a license to achieve. Apr 07 04:30:58 I know like nothing about open source... so that's why I was asking.. I just know that open source stuff can be worked on by the ommunity Apr 07 04:31:44 PatrickC_Pre2: Here. http://sam.zoy.org/wtfpl/ Apr 07 04:31:48 Problem solved. Apr 07 04:32:41 yeah, wtfpl is a good one if you don't care. Apr 07 04:33:03 lol Apr 07 04:33:23 well, for this app, I do care a little more then with others.. as it is for my Church Apr 07 04:33:43 I've been going between MIT and GPL Apr 07 04:33:54 * SineOt rewords it to the "what would jesus do public license" Apr 07 04:33:54 license picking is an "art" form in itself. Apr 07 04:34:27 PatrickC_Pre2: do you want others to be able take your work, change it, and sell it in the app catalog without providing the source code. if yes, choose MIT. If no, choose GPL. Apr 07 04:34:50 I'll choose GEL Apr 07 04:34:56 s/GEL/GPL/ Apr 07 04:35:15 I don't want others to take it and be able to sell it without providing me the source Apr 07 04:36:20 a big part of me worries about whoever would think to take it and sell it Apr 07 04:36:39 not the fact that they could, but that they decided it was worth their time :I Apr 07 04:36:55 SineOt: the LDS app in the app catalog did it to DrPodder, and had to be called out about it. Apr 07 04:37:10 LDS? Apr 07 04:37:12 One person tried to do it with Preware. Apr 07 04:37:28 Did they actually release the source code? Or slap a new name on it and sell it? Apr 07 04:37:46 http://forums.precentral.net/webos-apps-software/251821-legal-lds-media-ripoff-dr-podder.html#post2514747 Apr 07 04:38:33 http://www.precentral.net/installer Apr 07 04:38:47 ah yeah, I remember that old thread. Forgot what they did. I also remember reading about someone trying to sell PalmPDF for $40. Apr 07 04:40:06 Appible did the LDS app? Apr 07 04:40:38 yep Apr 07 04:41:15 both of those uses were technically in compliance with the GPL Apr 07 04:41:44 wow... Apr 07 04:41:55 anyone here been playing with node? Apr 07 04:42:08 si Apr 07 04:42:16 i thought i had it setup, but it doesn't want to play nice Apr 07 04:42:24 oh? Apr 07 04:42:35 can you try to install node-rfb and test it? Apr 07 04:42:38 HattCzech: http://git.webos-internals.org/?p=applications/hello.git;a=tree;f=node-service Apr 07 04:42:53 oh, not a node service. Apr 07 04:43:07 rwhitby: installer even uses the same feeds I have set in preware... Apr 07 04:43:08 it will eventually get there Apr 07 04:43:10 (i hope) Apr 07 04:43:45 HattCzech: is it in npm? Apr 07 04:43:51 rwhitby: my thought was to get it working in node, then make it a service Apr 07 04:43:53 halfhalo: yeah Apr 07 04:43:57 rfb Apr 07 04:43:58 tibfin: ping Apr 07 04:44:18 s/tibfin/tibfib/ Apr 07 04:44:22 https://github.com/substack/node-bufferlist/blob/master/examples/simple_binary.js Apr 07 04:44:37 HattCzech: any module that needs to be built will not work on device right now Apr 07 04:44:59 built how? Apr 07 04:45:40 npm automatically builds the c++ portion of the modules using ./configure and such Apr 07 04:46:08 hmmm, well then... Apr 07 04:46:19 well, I'm off to bed.. Apr 07 04:46:21 night all Apr 07 04:46:53 rfb appears to be just a js file Apr 07 04:47:08 something was built for it for me Apr 07 04:47:23 hmmm, it had some dependencies Apr 07 04:48:31 well, that makes things tricky for me Apr 07 04:49:16 well, can you run that simple_binary.js? Apr 07 04:53:15 erm... gimme a few, that triggered a nvm install :/ Apr 07 04:53:39 okay Apr 07 04:53:44 rfb has bufferlist in there Apr 07 04:54:06 but i tried the rfb example and it blew up on bufferlist/binary Apr 07 04:54:18 so i tried bufferlist and that simple example... and it still blows up Apr 07 04:54:27 so i just want to make sure i'm not doing something wrong Apr 07 05:07:28 any luck, halfhalo? Apr 07 05:20:05 what params do you pass to the phone app? I need it to where when a user taps a phone number it opens it up in the phone app Apr 07 05:45:20 PatrickC_Pre: yo Apr 07 05:52:52 PatrickC_Pre: nothin? Apr 07 06:18:00 morning Apr 07 06:18:59 good morning Apr 07 06:19:41 morning Apr 07 06:32:02 good night :) lol later all Apr 07 06:35:01 cu Apr 07 11:57:09 I am done with Abitur! Apr 07 11:57:11 hell yea Apr 07 11:57:17 no more exams Apr 07 11:58:28 thomaschaaf, Glückwunsch! Apr 07 11:59:23 thanks :) okay now how do I get unbenwired to send me the us activated device.. he seems to have changed his mind about giving me one for reviewtomail.com Apr 07 11:59:54 I am thinking about pulling one of my apps because of the bad reviews :/ Apr 07 11:59:56 thomaschaaf: congrats Apr 07 12:00:21 thomaschaaf, wich one? Apr 07 12:00:53 hercalendar... I keep getting reviews that others are better.. they do costs 5 usd though.. Apr 07 12:01:53 https://developer.palm.com/appredirect/?packageid=de.komola.hercalendarfree Apr 07 12:02:19 thomaschaaf, I must say, the droplet of blood is a bit tasteless Apr 07 12:02:20 :-) Apr 07 12:02:21 btw have you noticed, that the https link is not completly https but it is actually loading stuff from other resources? Apr 07 12:03:41 does anybody know if it's possible to implement smth like background service to show some alerts based on interval? any examples of such implementation would be great. Apr 07 12:04:06 sandrstar, yes, definitely Apr 07 12:04:09 let me look it up Apr 07 12:04:24 phoque: ? it's blood.. should I make it a bucket or a faucet or I guess a watering can? Apr 07 12:04:43 phoque: the droplet of blood seems fine in my opition.. Apr 07 12:04:46 rehi Apr 07 12:04:48 yes, technically Apr 07 12:04:56 thomaschaaf: i like the reviewtomail service Apr 07 12:05:00 swisstomcat: hi! Abitur fertig Apr 07 12:05:03 but all women will say "wtf, its not just blood!" Apr 07 12:05:04 yay! Apr 07 12:05:26 phoque: great. unfortunately I wasn't able to find out any good/explained example of it by myself. Apr 07 12:05:28 did you ask your girlfriend what icon she wanted? Apr 07 12:05:47 phoque: I built this app for my gf.. she uses it it works Apr 07 12:06:25 sandrstar, https://developer.palm.com/content/api/reference/services/alarms.html#set-calendar-based-time Apr 07 12:07:16 thomaschaaf, I'm sure it works Apr 07 12:07:22 I think I will send out one last update taking out the functionality :/ pretty mad that the ones that use it (I because of the ads I know how many times it gets used per day and by how many people) won't vote and the others that do vote only do so poorly Apr 07 12:07:22 but still, I think it's tasteless Apr 07 12:07:54 thomaschaaf, the first thing I was missing was any actual data besides today and tomorrow Apr 07 12:07:55 phoque: thanks! Apr 07 12:07:58 a calendar Apr 07 12:08:01 recent periods Apr 07 12:08:13 the homescreen is a bit useless Apr 07 12:08:16 phoque: the ones you entered can be altered in the setting Apr 07 12:08:23 I know, I found that Apr 07 12:08:29 phoque: it shows what is needed why would you need a calendar? Apr 07 12:08:37 the date when it will start next is at the bottom Apr 07 12:08:43 and you know if it today or tomorrow Apr 07 12:09:02 yeah... but calculating dates is hard Apr 07 12:09:10 I want to know "will it be on the weekend"? Apr 07 12:09:24 phoque: using a 95% interval Apr 07 12:09:35 "I'll be on vacation in two weeks, how does that relate to my estimated start of the period" Apr 07 12:10:37 hmm maybe I will build that into the non free version because that is sadly not easily built in webos :/ Apr 07 12:10:44 there is no calendar element :( Apr 07 12:10:47 yeah, I bet Apr 07 12:11:08 maybe you could make the app add entries to the real calendar Apr 07 12:11:12 like "Bahnfahren" does Apr 07 12:11:50 use the app to only add and edit data Apr 07 12:12:03 and make the estimation a part of the calendar Apr 07 12:12:17 otherwise people need to switch forth and back between your app and the calendar Apr 07 12:12:34 good point Apr 07 12:12:43 they add event api seems pretty easy in 2.1 Apr 07 12:14:29 well what would the entry be.. I don't really like that idea... if I want to know I'd rather check the app not have it synced to my google calendar which is shared with everyone :D Apr 07 12:14:43 it doesn't sync with GCal Apr 07 12:14:44 :-D Apr 07 12:14:53 it's a local calendar Apr 07 12:14:58 just adds it to the local calendar Apr 07 12:15:07 "es springt" :) Apr 07 12:15:27 :-) Apr 07 12:15:35 everything else is in the calendar too Apr 07 12:15:45 that'd make the most sense to me Apr 07 12:16:02 sorry, didn't want to come on strong Apr 07 12:16:14 just wanted to give you some constructive critizism Apr 07 12:17:55 Oh and I was on the phone with my girlfriend Apr 07 12:18:04 she'd dislike a droplet of blood Apr 07 12:18:05 ;-) Apr 07 12:18:30 what would she prefer? Apr 07 12:18:49 she couldn't tell Apr 07 12:18:57 k Apr 07 12:19:28 okay I'm going to move to another house now :) maybe I'll add the calendar part :) Apr 07 12:19:41 heh, okay Apr 07 12:20:05 see you tonight :) maybe? Apr 07 13:42:18 what's the best way to launch the phone app for a phone number in a help/about scene? Apr 07 14:37:43 ugh Apr 07 15:17:58 hmm, I get confused: then VBox 4.0.4 installed webOS 2.1 emulator launcher says that it's not supported, but i'm able to launch it and install app successfully. Have anybody faced issues with 4.0.4 VBox and emulator? Apr 07 15:25:33 seems, it just related to creation of new emulator instances... Apr 07 15:26:33 sandrstar, I didn't think virtual box 4.x was supported... but I haven't checked recently Apr 07 15:26:38 I thought it required 3.2 Apr 07 15:29:45 right, but i need virtualized osx running also, 4 seems to have better support for this. Regarding webOS - will go with current emulator VMs and will ask somebody with 3.2 to create one for me if needed :) Apr 07 15:43:08 I think the VB 4.0 problem deals with the SDK's image installation process...if you have the vmdk, I think you can launch it manually...I just use VB 3.2, though :) Apr 07 15:48:18 yup, have read unwiredben post on forum more careful. Emulator machine get launched manually without problems. Apr 07 16:01:53 yeah they run fine, its the external sdk commands that don't work Apr 07 16:39:17 erg cow-orker is not showing up when he said he would Apr 07 16:39:22 lulz Apr 07 16:41:12 yay tasks@hand has been accepted in the app catalog Apr 07 16:42:12 congratulations! Apr 07 16:54:44 rwhitby: can I PM you ? Apr 07 17:05:57 thanks sugardave Apr 07 17:06:30 PatrickC_Pre: I think I understand what you want, but I don't see the added benefit of it. I'm affraid that it will only lead to more clutter... Apr 07 17:07:26 PatrickC_Pre: I'll try to catch some new unknowing users in the near future and try out a button which pops up urging them to look at the help page thingy. Does that seem fair to you? Apr 07 17:09:59 that seems fair, I was only trying to do it for your benefit :) Apr 07 17:10:18 cause they won't be looking for a small amount of text at the top of the page Apr 07 17:10:34 I know, I'm searching for an optimal solution :) Apr 07 17:10:47 ok :) Apr 07 17:10:57 PatrickC_Pre: you didn't notice the text at the top? Apr 07 17:11:08 I did, but I was looking for it Apr 07 17:11:19 ah, I already told you in the mail, fool that I am! Apr 07 17:11:27 ah yes, but you asked for it, so I had to say it. Apr 07 17:11:41 hmmm, complicated matters... I'll play with it Apr 07 17:11:46 ok Apr 07 17:12:28 expect the results of that in a week or 4... it takes some time to find new people which haven't played with it. Apr 07 17:13:25 madnificent: http://webos101.com/Code_Snippets#Show_a_scene_only_at_first_run_of_an_app Apr 07 17:13:36 is what I was originally talking about Apr 07 17:15:14 PatrickC_Pre: I have something in place to cope with those things already. There's a similar system in place which handles updates :) A whole bunch of the code isn't loaded unless the app needs updating. Apr 07 17:18:11 ok, I was just tryin to show you what I was talkin about ;) Apr 07 17:19:25 PatrickC_Pre: if it wasn't clear: thanks for helping out! Apr 07 17:21:20 np :) so, it was accepted? Apr 07 17:21:29 what country did you put it out in? Apr 07 17:24:22 is there a way to have one thing play when on a certain (1x) data connection, and another play when on a 3g/wifi connection with a single button? Apr 07 17:24:35 PatrickC_Pre: 'every' but it's accepted and I can't see it yet... perhaps it takes a while to get through Apr 07 17:24:58 ok, I looked for it too, and didn't see it Apr 07 17:25:04 PatrickC_Pre: I think you can see what type of connection you're on Apr 07 17:25:05 is it free or charge? Apr 07 17:25:14 * madnificent checks Apr 07 17:25:29 PatrickC_Pre: nope, launch price is 2.49 Apr 07 17:25:45 ok Apr 07 17:26:14 you'll win back much more time than that amount of money... if it sells a bit more features will come (non-users have asked me for some features, some of which are actually quite cool) Apr 07 17:27:45 owwwwwwwww Apr 07 17:27:53 cwayne: wazzup? Apr 07 17:28:31 what's wrong cwayne?? Apr 07 17:29:10 PatrickC_Pre: I can't find the answer for your question either. It's odd I thought it was there... perhaps it was only there on android? Apr 07 17:30:48 * cwayne is never drinking again Apr 07 17:31:03 cwayne: LoL Apr 07 17:31:12 I found this -- http://webos101.com/Code_Snippets#Checking_data_connectivity Apr 07 17:31:15 cwayne: tell me you didn't drive over a person :) Apr 07 17:31:16 cwayne: lol Apr 07 17:31:25 madnificent: lol nah, just Apr 07 17:31:26 ow Apr 07 17:31:34 what? lol Apr 07 17:32:36 owwwwwwwwwwwwww Apr 07 17:34:37 finished the like button last night at least Apr 07 17:35:12 PatrickC_Pre: that's all you need for your button right? Apr 07 17:35:23 cwayne: quite ironic, I would say Apr 07 17:35:39 lol Apr 07 17:36:58 cwayne: as you now probably have the reasoning power of a moron (no offense, but that's the way I am when I've drank to much), don't forget to drink water! Apr 07 17:37:35 madnificent: haha yep, im drinkin lots of it Apr 07 17:37:57 cwayne: you're better than I am :P Apr 07 17:38:06 * madnificent grabs another coffee Apr 07 17:41:44 madnificent: I want it to do one thing when on a 1x network, and another when on 3g/wifi Apr 07 17:43:07 does the new SDK offer a way to sync Tasks data (like one of those Synergy plugin thingies)? Apr 07 17:48:04 ah Apr 07 17:48:09 a Synergy Connector Apr 07 17:48:27 PatrickC_Pre: yes, and you have a check to find out on which connections you are right now... so you can do it with a simple if-loop Apr 07 17:48:34 s/loop/construct/ Apr 07 17:48:48 ah cool Apr 07 17:49:00 so it is possible!! yay!!! Apr 07 17:50:24 :D Apr 07 17:51:50 dang, currently only for Contacts, Calendar and Messaging Apr 07 17:52:02 I WANT MOAARRR!! Apr 07 17:52:03 :-) Apr 07 18:10:42 our microwave burned up :'( Apr 07 18:11:26 phoque: you can back up your apps through a homebrew solution, no? Apr 07 18:11:48 hm... well for the moment (cause that's probably as long as it will last) my BF has decided to get a Pre3 if it comes to verizon Apr 07 18:11:52 phoque: I thought I read in the forums that one of the devs said something in the range of "I wish we'd have built that from the start" Apr 07 18:12:18 RagingMind: which is... good? or bad ? Apr 07 18:13:21 but nothing else burned.ā€¦ so that's good :) Apr 07 18:18:11 PatrickC_Pre: that makes it pizza night for you Apr 07 18:18:24 yep :) Apr 07 18:18:24 PatrickC_Pre: or anything else you like to eat when you're too lazy to use the microwave Apr 07 18:18:30 we make our own pizza too :D Apr 07 18:19:20 YOU MAKE YOUR OWN PIE Apr 07 18:19:27 omnom Apr 07 18:19:30 * madnificent makes his own apps :) Apr 07 18:19:37 /we all do Apr 07 18:19:47 ona da webOS, you makea your own appsa! Apr 07 18:19:53 sams club has pre-made dough Apr 07 18:19:58 madnificent, good for the moment. he currently has a pixi that he got for $50, but decided not to activate it and went with an e-bay purchased feature phone so he could avoid the data fee Apr 07 18:20:02 and its good :D Apr 07 18:20:16 and yesterday he wanted whatever the next iphone is Apr 07 18:20:22 so he's all over the place Apr 07 18:20:46 RagingMind: pre3 >> iphone !! And I'm a liable source because I haven't thouched neither of them! Apr 07 18:21:07 hmmm, have touched neither, or haven't thouched either... but not what I wrote Apr 07 18:37:22 rehi Apr 07 18:40:12 hey swisstomcat Apr 07 18:40:19 hey sugardave Apr 07 18:40:25 evning swisstomcat Apr 07 18:40:44 hey hotdp Apr 07 19:13:52 http://www.fudzilla.com/notebooks/item/22358-xoom-is-a-flop hope touch will do better Apr 07 19:17:02 * PatrickC_Pre hopes so too Apr 07 19:17:51 100,000 is a really low bar. There's hope Apr 07 19:18:33 yeah.. that if it comes out before the iPad3 :p Apr 07 19:18:47 or the Xoom2 Apr 07 19:34:21 weird question but, in the app submission portal, should I see any more device checkboxes for compatibility than "palm pre" "palm pixi" ? Apr 07 19:34:27 like Pre 2 Apr 07 19:34:29 ? Apr 07 19:34:46 i think not Apr 07 19:34:52 since the pre2 is like the pre Apr 07 19:34:57 and the veer is like the pixi Apr 07 19:35:04 the pre3 will be a new category Apr 07 19:35:08 and of course the touchpad Apr 07 19:39:40 hey Apr 07 19:40:33 swisstomcat: i think wasterhegg is completly different from your app. but i just saw the screenshot Apr 07 19:40:50 btw. welcome back swisstomcat :) Apr 07 19:40:57 rehi Apr 07 19:41:54 hay leiru and swisstomcat Apr 07 19:41:59 leiru: it's similar .. and app to display a conference schedule Apr 07 19:42:22 c/and/an Apr 07 19:44:22 maybe you can get suggestions for orientationchanges or swiping, handling. Apr 07 19:45:02 swisstomcat: btw. mainz is too far away. any informations about hamburg or berlin (webOSconnect)? Apr 07 19:46:10 leiru: i only know that one will happen in berlin, but no when Apr 07 19:47:50 ok Apr 07 19:50:38 " biggest mistake on this purchase. the phone freeze so often. battery life is short, and a lot more.....too mad to list them all...... ANONYMOUS 1 stars regret buying the phone..............DID NOT MEET MY EXPECTATIONS AT ALL...... 1 stars" Apr 07 19:50:48 palm pixi reviews on sprint's site.... :"( Apr 07 19:51:51 heh, get a broken phone you think people would be smart enough to return it Apr 07 19:52:04 I mean clearly those are all design flaws Apr 07 19:53:35 http://shop.sprint.com/mysprint/shop/phone_details.jsp?prodId=dvc2260006prd&deviceSKUId=22400032&flow=AAL&planSKUId=null&tabId=dt_phones&ptn= -> $550 phone! lol Apr 07 19:54:08 ^^Microsoft Mobile OS 6.5.3 Apr 07 19:54:24 hi rwhitby Apr 07 20:12:06 http://nashville.craigslist.org/mob/2289973536.html -> sprint pre "2" Apr 07 20:13:02 inncorrent Apr 07 20:18:45 lol, I know.. that's why the "2" was in quotes :) Apr 07 20:27:42 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxcaMCgdkZ8 Apr 07 20:33:30 hi all, how do you guys usually promote your apps ? twitter/facebook ? Apr 07 20:39:14 twitter usually Apr 07 20:39:50 I buy a bunch of ads on webosroundup.com OH WAIT THAT'S BADKITTY Apr 07 20:40:01 luls Apr 07 20:40:22 twitter Apr 07 20:40:56 facebook ghere Apr 07 20:46:33 s/ghere/here/ Apr 07 20:46:43 Adora: german app cat, 2.x - first i got a 0 star review (api was down 1 day) - now the appcat-app show 1x 5 stars and under that "no reviews" Apr 07 20:47:32 or are you the false person to question this? Apr 07 20:48:00 * sugardave is horrible at app promotion. "I think I get most of my sales from other devs who see my signature at the dev forums." Apr 07 20:49:03 * PatrickC_Pre hardly gets any promotion.. I think my sales are just like sugardaves :p Apr 07 20:58:12 http://twitpic.com/4i1ui8 :p Apr 07 20:58:50 The Mac Mini Touchstone Station Apr 07 20:59:08 nice ponies Apr 07 21:00:08 They're a bit partial to the Pre2. Can't blame them :I Apr 07 21:00:16 Ghetto ass taped up Pixi there Apr 07 21:01:12 ugh wish my bulb condoms came in Apr 07 21:02:26 bulb condoms? hah Apr 07 21:02:50 oh! Ailium. How does the speed ramp up? Just bumps by 10% every 100 points? Apr 07 21:02:57 yes Apr 07 21:03:06 resets every 1000pts Apr 07 21:03:15 Maybe it's just me but it gets way fast when you're up at like 80-90 Apr 07 21:03:22 indeed Apr 07 21:03:33 but since it fills up quicker, points come quicker Apr 07 21:03:46 and then you get the reset Apr 07 21:04:05 ive survived at most 4 rounds Apr 07 21:04:09 4606 is my highest Apr 07 21:04:35 sucks i have to learn c and make it a pdk app Apr 07 21:05:28 why? :C Apr 07 21:05:38 html 5 audio is full of fail Apr 07 21:05:46 and max of 20fps on device is also fail Apr 07 21:06:01 It's not like you need more than 20fps for what all is going on though :p Apr 07 21:06:08 in chrome its 30fps and so much smoother Apr 07 21:06:12 I hit 3900 last night Apr 07 21:06:21 yeah but audio is 0.5sec behind the actual action/input Apr 07 21:09:04 if you played it in chrome its almost a different game Apr 07 21:09:11 that's pretty lame Apr 07 21:09:17 so much overhead Apr 07 21:09:21 you try lower quality audio? Apr 07 21:09:35 im using the palm recommended file and quality Apr 07 21:09:55 im sure i can get a reasonably simialr game thru the pdk Apr 07 21:10:04 its just the web interaction stuff is gonna be a hurdle Apr 07 21:10:14 hybrid Apr 07 21:10:28 all the game mechanics are done, just gotta port it over to c Apr 07 21:10:37