**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Apr 16 02:59:58 2011 Apr 16 03:28:02 stock pre- is slow... Apr 16 04:03:33 hello dkirker Apr 16 04:03:41 hi PatrickC_Pre2 Apr 16 04:06:41 how's it goin? Apr 16 04:07:56 busy as all hell Apr 16 04:08:00 but I need to get dinner now Apr 16 04:08:28 sounds fun :) Apr 16 04:48:56 This is definitely among the cooler things I've seen. I just took apart an old Pre and put it back together, after screwing with the screen (wasn't able to separate the digitizer and screen, but messed around there). Apr 16 04:49:11 I turned it back on and it's black and white. But even better, it's like half-resolution. Apr 16 04:49:29 It gets the data for the entire screen, but it looks like every other pixel is just a copy of the previous one. Apr 16 04:49:34 (I also broke the digitizer, but heh.) Apr 16 04:50:05 A black-and-white screen where you can see each pixel is pretty cool . . . looks like an old-school 8-bit screen. Apr 16 04:50:18 screenshot plz lol Apr 16 04:50:30 uh . . . how 'bout a photo? :P Apr 16 04:50:55 that's fine too :) Apr 16 04:51:01 is there any way to get out of Just Type with just the keyboard? Apr 16 04:51:22 not afaik Apr 16 04:51:42 okay, give me a moment and I'll pull out my better camera Apr 16 04:52:32 lol ok Apr 16 04:57:11 PatrickC_Pre2: how's the kernel going? Apr 16 04:57:32 I haven't started yet, need to figure out how to compile a stock kernel first Apr 16 04:57:50 how does HP plan to do this? Apr 16 04:57:57 http://www.webosroundup.com/2011/04/hp-takes-over-the-catalog/ Apr 16 04:59:16 PatrickC_Pre2: thru a webOS update ... ? Apr 16 04:59:32 I know, but to all webOS phones? Apr 16 04:59:48 hey jeffwheeler! Apr 16 04:59:57 dkirker: hey! Apr 16 05:00:02 just took photos, uploading Apr 16 05:00:10 can't wait to see them! Apr 16 05:00:30 ok, Google Voice is trippy! All three of my phones keep making noises. :o Apr 16 05:00:52 Basically anything that runs and boots an HP logo will probably get an update that changes the icon Apr 16 05:01:07 anything else is old enough it probably won't matter since it's not going to get an update anyways Apr 16 05:01:43 I miss the old palm logo, but I really love the blue in the HP logo. Apr 16 05:02:00 wow, these macros make me realize how gross this screen is Apr 16 05:02:05 fortunately it's not the phone I use everyday Apr 16 05:03:28 http://www.flickr.com/photos/nokrev/5623175905/in/photostream/ Apr 16 05:03:32 http://www.flickr.com/photos/nokrev/5623175647/in/photostream/ Apr 16 05:03:38 http://www.flickr.com/photos/nokrev/5623764736/in/photostream/ Apr 16 05:03:48 http://www.flickr.com/photos/nokrev/5623765158/in/photostream/ Apr 16 05:03:59 or, better yet . . . here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/nokrev/ Apr 16 05:04:45 looks cool Apr 16 05:04:45 this is so steampunkish Apr 16 05:04:56 jeffwheeler: it's like the old low-res palm os devices :D Apr 16 05:05:11 Xuzz: I was just thinking the same thing! Apr 16 05:05:29 jeffwheeler: do screenshots turn out normal? Apr 16 05:05:32 I love it Apr 16 05:05:34 um Apr 16 05:05:42 I assume so . . . will see if I can do it Apr 16 05:05:50 stuff is tough since the touchscreen is broken Apr 16 05:05:51 dkirker: I just realized a few days ago why the whole "double the resolution needing new graphics" thing (w/ iPhone 4) seemed so familiar: it'd already happened with Palm OS! Apr 16 05:05:52 that would be an easier way to show it Apr 16 05:06:28 it's orange+sym+p, right? Apr 16 05:06:30 jeffwheeler: make some kind of thing that lets you go ./inject_touch 145 256 or something :p Apr 16 05:06:32 Xuzz: It happens to every platform. Doubling bit denisty is hard to do without breaking things. Sadly. Apr 16 05:06:41 Xuzz: ha Apr 16 05:07:19 shit, I have too many things to do this weekend... Apr 16 05:07:35 dkirker: yeah; although I haven't seen personally any other cases. maybe the pre3, but the more fluid layouts of webOS would probably make that (mostly?) unnecessary Apr 16 05:08:20 most of my blocky-palmos experience was in the bottom left of this picture: http://little-john.net/screens/b-003.png :P Apr 16 05:08:25 Well, the problem with density doubling is that you have to zoom everything, or you get really really small icons... Apr 16 05:09:06 that is what makes the mess, I'm afraid Apr 16 05:09:25 then it looks like your HI designer puked all over the screen.... Apr 16 05:09:34 I want to replace the font with a pixel font Apr 16 05:09:37 hah Apr 16 05:09:38 so it totally "works" Apr 16 05:11:57 yeah, screenshots are normal Apr 16 05:12:35 weird Apr 16 05:12:40 not at all Apr 16 05:12:47 I was hacking around at the connection to the screen Apr 16 05:12:48 screenies are in sw Apr 16 05:12:48 what tibfib Apr 16 05:12:56 oh.. nm Apr 16 05:13:11 jeffwheeler: ah Apr 16 05:13:20 tibfib: have you figured out how I can bypass the api_key error in koto? Apr 16 05:13:36 PatrickC_Pre2: it's pretty straightforward Apr 16 05:13:40 you can fix it Apr 16 05:13:55 just change the sample file into the real file Apr 16 05:13:56 Anyone else going to the meetup tomorrow evening in Sunnyvale? Apr 16 05:14:01 without getting all those api-keys? Apr 16 05:14:04 yes Apr 16 05:14:23 ok, I'll try that tomorrow Apr 16 05:14:24 thx Apr 16 05:15:31 I wish the touchscreen still worked :( Apr 16 05:15:39 (I mean the digitizer) Apr 16 05:16:04 dkirker: can you file a bug report that requires more universal keyboard shortcuts? Apr 16 05:16:30 jeffwheeler: yup. what were you thinking? Apr 16 05:16:37 dkirker: all of them :) Apr 16 05:16:53 and a feature request that BFG Maps becomes the stock map app :) Apr 16 05:17:06 dkirker: hah, could you check a bug report? :p the one that removed landscape from Exhibition Apr 16 05:17:44 dkirker: and while you're there . . . can you file a bug report about Qt not being the preferred way to write apps, including internally? kthx Apr 16 05:18:09 haha, you'll have to talk to Ben, Lisa or Chuq or even Evan about all of this guys. I'm in Engineering, not PR or Dev Rel. Sorry. Apr 16 05:18:18 * oil puts his stack of things for dkirker to fix on top of SineOts stack Apr 16 05:18:44 I may be the most expensive intern ever . . . I should keep a count of how many devices I've destroyed. Apr 16 05:18:49 Or better yet! palm.com/jobs I hear that there are some positions open. ;) Apr 16 05:19:06 jeffwheeler: where do you work? Apr 16 05:19:17 http://i53.tinypic.com/hugdbk.png possibly the best random tagline in wi apps yet? Apr 16 05:19:17 PatrickC_Pre2: I'm going to intern (again) at Palm this summer Apr 16 05:19:32 jeffwheeler: nice! Trying to do the same myself Apr 16 05:19:33 oil: lol Apr 16 05:19:36 haha Apr 16 05:19:37 oil: haha Apr 16 05:19:46 jeffwheeler: sweet! Apr 16 05:19:48 halfhalo: you're at school? Where? CS? Apr 16 05:19:52 PatrickC_Pre2: :) Apr 16 05:19:54 * PatrickC_Pre2 wishes he could intern at Palm Apr 16 05:19:59 CSUN and yes CS Apr 16 05:20:14 PatrickC_Pre2: I'm super intimidated this year, I'm doing EE this year (did CS last year). I don't really know any EE but am faking my way as an EE major. Apr 16 05:20:30 lol Apr 16 05:20:45 oil: are you going to add it as a real one? Apr 16 05:20:48 It'll be super awkward for the first month or so . . . then it'll be great. Apr 16 05:20:51 its in there already Apr 16 05:20:51 haha Apr 16 05:20:54 nice! Apr 16 05:20:56 since when? Apr 16 05:21:03 uh Apr 16 05:21:11 idk gitweb isnt loading Apr 16 05:21:22 http://git.webos-internals.org/?p=applications/wIRC.git;a=commit;h=004f3f1c0e9dc0273b221062bad521367a84f11a Apr 16 05:21:25 halfhalo: did you ever talk to Dustin? He /was/ the awesome recruiter at Palm until like two weeks ago . . . Apr 16 05:21:26 sooo wednesday Apr 16 05:21:27 jeffwheeler: my dad is an EE Apr 16 05:21:40 oil: heh, nice Apr 16 05:21:57 jeffwheeler: Until two weeks ago?? What happened? (I did all of my stuff recently through Brian.) Apr 16 05:21:57 PatrickC_Pre2: does he want to teach me all of EE in the next five weeks 'cause that'd be great? :D Apr 16 05:22:27 dkirker: well, I called the number I had for him, and then some random guy answered. He hadn't responded to his email for the week before that. Apr 16 05:22:35 interesting Apr 16 05:22:43 lol, he's looking for a job where he can actually use what he learned in school (just graduated 2 years ago) Apr 16 05:22:45 jeffwheeler: Matt Mcnulty was the guy who offered it, but I havent heard back save for an initial convo yet :( Apr 16 05:22:49 dkirker: I think he went to Zynga. But I wish he'd said something . . . while I waited for him to reply to my emails. Apr 16 05:23:03 halfhalo: I worked directly beneath him last year! Apr 16 05:23:13 halfhalo: he's really great. :) Apr 16 05:23:16 then go yell at him and make him hurry! Apr 16 05:23:20 :p Apr 16 05:23:23 halfhalo: He's pretty busy (except for when he shows up in here, sometimes). Apr 16 05:23:24 directly? Apr 16 05:23:24 halfhalo: you can . . . :) Apr 16 05:23:34 * halfhalo has sent amany emails Apr 16 05:23:36 dkirker: he shows up in here? Haha, I guess I'm not here often Apr 16 05:23:44 dkirker: and EE jobs at Palm? :) Apr 16 05:23:47 jeffwheeler: a few times. Apr 16 05:23:53 every once in a while Apr 16 05:23:56 mostly afterr an announcement Apr 16 05:24:02 I've seen matt in here a few times too Apr 16 05:24:05 more recently with the extra enyo stuff going on Apr 16 05:24:14 halfhalo: it's cool to say "that was my boss!" and show people the photo on engadget . . . Apr 16 05:24:33 (or "I worked on that!" works too, but heh) Apr 16 05:24:55 oh shit, it's late . . . I need to get to work, later y'all Apr 16 05:24:58 yeah, buuuutttt... need to get a spot first! Apr 16 05:25:36 dangit. stupid prototype Apr 16 05:26:04 * PatrickC_Pre2 should get to bed too Apr 16 05:26:09 night all Apr 16 05:26:11 I think that the beta of Universe needs to go out on Sunday Apr 16 05:26:21 or tonight ;) Apr 16 05:26:27 heh Apr 16 05:26:29 if it were ready Apr 16 05:26:42 dkirker: does the scroll bar work yet? Apr 16 05:26:53 what new features? a working way to set it as default? :) Apr 16 05:27:00 lols Apr 16 05:27:09 Tibfib: not as a scroll bar, just a visual indicator Apr 16 05:27:11 dkirker: HURRY UP SLOW POKE Apr 16 05:27:16 PatrickC_Pre2: yes Apr 16 05:27:23 Tibfib: lol, after the download manager is done Apr 16 05:27:26 * PatrickC_Pre2 can't wait!! Apr 16 05:27:33 dkirker: it'd be nice to have a scroll bar Apr 16 05:27:42 dkirker: oh yeah? will it work better with download sites? Apr 16 05:27:43 * PatrickC_Pre2 Jumps into a time machine so I an get the beta quicker Apr 16 05:28:11 Tibfib: Don't know yet :) Apr 16 05:28:30 dkirker: heh Apr 16 05:28:32 will this one be 0.8? Apr 16 05:28:46 PatrickC_Pre2: yes Apr 16 05:28:57 0.7.26 Apr 16 05:29:10 0.7.999.99999999999 Apr 16 05:29:11 0.7.26.3.2 Apr 16 05:29:13 actually Apr 16 05:29:14 so, this is the review edition? or the one before the review edition? Apr 16 05:29:16 thats just too crazy Apr 16 05:29:21 lol Apr 16 05:29:22 PatrickC_Pre2: this is it Apr 16 05:29:29 and webos would get angry if you have more dots Apr 16 05:29:54 ok cool! I look forward to reviewing it (after I review tasks@hand) Apr 16 05:30:34 well, on that note.. I'm off to bed Apr 16 05:30:36 night all Apr 16 05:35:15 he's dreaming about Sunday night... Apr 16 05:35:23 ...and I am dreaming about actually BEING WebKit Apr 16 05:35:27 (no joke) Apr 16 05:35:50 heh, I saw that tweet Apr 16 05:36:21 I was actually consciously aware of the dream, too Apr 16 05:36:35 I knew I was having this weird dream, and I didn't wake myself up Apr 16 05:36:43 I think this is like Tron or something... Apr 16 08:11:45 * SimpsonTP is getting frustrated by not beeing able to buy apps :( Apr 16 12:09:10 ls Apr 16 12:14:34 ls -a Apr 16 12:15:20 ls -al Apr 16 13:16:51 why does p|c keep posting NDA stuff? Apr 16 13:17:45 because no one can stop them Apr 16 13:17:52 because they have a "source" Apr 16 13:18:38 if palm would endorse it, then I'd be fine with it. But this seems te trouble the relationship between them and HP/Palm Apr 16 13:26:37 This is annoying. The one time I want to test the GPS bug I can't! Apr 16 13:28:45 I wonder if it is really that bad to post NDA, marketing wise it might even be interesting Apr 16 13:28:58 its no official statement, but stil exposure Apr 16 13:29:32 Seems my Pre2 has given up on AGPS entirely. Apr 16 13:42:58 that's funny, mine is just the opposite Apr 16 13:47:12 I'm trying to trigger the southern hemisphere bug to test a Latitude API bug. No dice. Apr 16 13:47:58 ah, sorry, I'm about 45 degrees of latitude away from being able to help you with that Apr 16 13:52:03 seems my pre2 hasn't arrived yet :( Apr 16 14:09:58 morning all Apr 16 14:10:53 so I see you're planning on melting your phone Apr 16 14:11:08 possibly Apr 16 14:11:51 lol Apr 16 14:12:09 I'm only ramping it up to 2.7GHz.. its not *that* fast :p Apr 16 14:13:03 heh...looks like super mario rpg is pushing the limits even on a pre2 Apr 16 14:13:47 I'm really only gonna try 1.5GHz to start with Apr 16 14:18:20 * PatrickC_Pre2 is gonna be a Hulu billboard today with his jacket :p Apr 16 14:27:40 where can I find the vmdk for WebOS 1.4.5 and 2.1 ? Installing 2.1 apparently removed the vmdk for 2.1 Apr 16 14:28:27 that's not entirely correct, it seems. But I can't find the 2.1 image, regardless Apr 16 14:29:11 no wait, I think it is correct, but I still have a backup of the 1.4.5 one, still looking for the 2.1 somewhere though Apr 16 14:29:49 harro everyone Apr 16 14:30:10 hay Popple3 Apr 16 14:30:59 'rro Popple3 Apr 16 14:32:39 how's everyone today? Apr 16 14:32:43 good Apr 16 14:32:57 madnificent: I'll try to review tasks@hand today Apr 16 14:32:59 good, it's very quiet here at work today Apr 16 14:34:30 Loudergood: if I came to visit, it wouldn't be quiet hehe Apr 16 14:35:55 it'd take you a long time to get here Apr 16 14:36:47 lol Apr 16 14:37:00 bbl pre- time Apr 16 14:41:49 boy needs a laptop or a power cord... Apr 16 14:45:05 Hi all Apr 16 14:45:27 I do not see mojo application listed in the Debug configurations in eclipse… could anyone help with this? is there a specific way to add this option? Apr 16 14:53:50 Why is webos so slow Apr 16 14:54:43 *yawn* Apr 16 14:55:23 Guest: What device are you using and what webOS version? Apr 16 14:56:16 yeah my pre is nowhere near as slow as my eris Apr 16 14:56:37 Palm pre but also sampled the pre 2. Compared to other platforms it just seems slow and laggy in comparison Apr 16 14:57:16 The original pre is extremely slow though Apr 16 14:57:50 it is two years old Apr 16 14:59:51 Yeah, maybe, but as you said, it's two years old. IMO it can hold pretty well with webOS 2.1 (not the Pre minus and the pixis, too little memory) :( Apr 16 15:00:59 It was slow from day 1 Apr 16 15:01:18 My ipod touch is older and not slow at all Apr 16 15:01:30 You're comparing pears to apples Apr 16 15:01:39 (palms to apples) Apr 16 15:02:12 Apple's iOS use a "only one app runs" approach, whereas in webOS all runs simultaneously Apr 16 15:02:14 and what do you mean by slow, what part is slow? Apr 16 15:02:19 Why is it so slow though? Code? Apr 16 15:02:55 I'm confused about what is slow Apr 16 15:03:02 Loads apps slow, too many card bugs evn with nothing open, gets really laggy Apr 16 15:03:28 I've never ever seen a too many cards message Apr 16 15:03:40 Well I see it all the time Apr 16 15:03:45 granted my first webos phone was a pre+ Apr 16 15:04:05 Get it with nothing open sometimes Apr 16 15:04:32 My pre is stock. I have never looked into any of the homebrew stuff Apr 16 15:05:35 Yeah, that should be it... go faster, 800Mhz, with compcache and you'll feel that your Pre suddenly becomes greater Apr 16 15:06:05 you should, it's much easier than doing it on android or iOS Apr 16 15:06:32 Stock is hard to keep up with, and yes, the TMC error sucks on stock Pre :( Apr 16 15:07:02 Nah I want to get of the phone. Waiting for that nexus s or evo 3d Apr 16 15:07:23 so you could have a better experience while waiting Apr 16 15:07:42 what android device are you using now? Apr 16 15:08:02 Homebrew isn't my thing. No interest Apr 16 15:11:46 Wife Jason an epic 4g Apr 16 15:11:52 Has Apr 16 15:12:12 That's what made me realize how slow webos is Apr 16 15:12:22 And the apps Apr 16 15:17:37 I like the way webos multitasks. I can't think of another advantage Apr 16 15:18:50 I'd say the homebrew, but you don't seem to want to do that so eh.. Apr 16 15:23:53 anyone firmiliar with SDL? Apr 16 15:24:10 not having any luck with something and not seeing anything bout it on the forums Apr 16 15:30:04 is there a theme, or patch for webOS that allows more icons per screen, like 4x4 or more? thanks in advance.. I can't seem to find any.. Apr 16 15:30:55 arm, webos 2.0 Apr 16 15:31:15 dunno about 2.0 Apr 16 15:31:21 but i know there were some for 1.x Apr 16 15:31:37 I just saw an ad for 3D chalk O_o Apr 16 15:31:51 yeah they have a 'texter' easter bunny Apr 16 15:31:55 thats using a cellphone Apr 16 15:32:18 and the screen says hpy ester Apr 16 15:32:48 hi Apr 16 15:33:02 made my first comm board swap Apr 16 15:33:15 http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/208366_10150157031786027_686446026_7205863_3454177_n.jpg Apr 16 15:34:38 yeah thanks dawm, 1.4.x has a lot, but none for 2.x so far I guess.. thanks Apr 16 15:35:24 rpove me wrong, but the launcher isn't javascript anymore in 2.x Apr 16 15:35:38 MetaView: nice, how about that volume control switch eh? Apr 16 15:35:51 MetaView: I think it's Qt now Apr 16 15:35:51 what about it? Apr 16 15:36:04 it's back on its place Apr 16 15:36:16 tricky Apr 16 15:36:21 the only problem I had was the bottom part of the brezel(?) Apr 16 15:36:42 bezel even Apr 16 15:36:55 it needs to slide into its place Apr 16 15:37:09 didn#t read it this way in the description Apr 16 15:37:35 now I don#t know which doctor to use :) Apr 16 15:37:47 it's a Pre- GSM comm board in a AT&T Pre2 Apr 16 15:38:39 I'm confused by that... Apr 16 15:38:58 I didn't think there was such a thing as a AT&T Pre2 Apr 16 15:39:28 just a world ready gsm one Apr 16 15:40:24 no Apr 16 15:40:31 there is an US version Apr 16 15:40:38 with wrong UMTS frequency Apr 16 15:40:50 ahhh Apr 16 15:41:32 isn't AT&T, but NA-UMTS unlocked Apr 16 15:42:06 right right Apr 16 15:43:48 cant call it NA when tmobile is UMTS too Apr 16 15:43:50 AWS-UMTS Apr 16 15:44:00 the worldphone is just 'UMTS unlocked' Apr 16 15:44:07 a tmobile one is 'AWS-UMTS' Apr 16 15:44:08 FWIW Apr 16 15:47:42 doctor 104 works Apr 16 15:48:19 I'd just try a european doctor then..might just work... Apr 16 15:48:28 oh ok Apr 16 15:48:59 well, maybe have app cat problems then Apr 16 15:49:21 not, the app cat is connected to the IMEI Apr 16 15:49:35 which now comes from my Pre- Apr 16 15:49:44 that's how i understand rwhitby Apr 16 15:50:11 yeah, seems to be the case Apr 16 15:50:36 and the IMEI is tied to the initial carrier so far as the app catalog is concerned Apr 16 15:50:56 * Loudergood wonders just what kind of joker decided to set it up that way Apr 16 15:51:42 with wifi only devices I think app cat stuff will have to be adjusted Apr 16 15:52:08 yeah, now it'll be tied to your ISP ;) Apr 16 15:52:28 I'd find someone to go kick if they did that Apr 16 15:52:48 How could I get a handle to the current scene controller again? (without using this.controller) I want to pop up an alert dialog :) Apr 16 15:53:03 and for some reason this.controller doesn't work within my preferences assistant Apr 16 16:05:20 crap...how do I save with this snes emulator... Apr 16 16:05:59 you dont Apr 16 16:06:03 must leave running forever Apr 16 16:06:07 lol Apr 16 16:10:38 fixed it constructively :) Much better Apr 16 16:11:00 Loudergood: sorry, your life is now taken away. You're captured in the game, TRON style Apr 16 16:29:29 * halfhalo is playing audiosurf for the greater good Apr 16 16:29:35 is app catalog 2.x (esp betas) acting up for other U.S. users Apr 16 16:30:00 http://www.aperturescience.com/glados@home/ Apr 16 16:31:00 otters use smooth rocks as tools... pre looks like a smooth river stone... otters and webos make the perfect match! Apr 16 16:31:45 ragingminds you post that in the wrong conversation Apr 16 16:32:09 halfhalo: does portal2 come out tues? Apr 16 16:32:23 earlier if people can manage it Apr 16 16:32:31 sigh Apr 16 16:33:28 NergalJAF, there is never a wrong time for otters Apr 16 16:34:18 no I mean you're talk about otters in #webos-internals but you posted that in #webos Apr 16 16:34:33 Otters do in fact rock though Apr 16 16:36:26 peole should play audiosurg Apr 16 16:36:27 f Apr 16 16:36:57 I knew where I was typing. I figured I may as well make the point in here too Apr 16 16:37:33 there are some palm people that hang out only in here Apr 16 16:37:49 * PatrickC_Pre2 waves hi Apr 16 16:38:00 cool cool not trying to fight just thought a (easy to make) mistake & may not have notice Apr 16 16:38:08 * PatrickC_Pre2 and points to lemketron Apr 16 16:38:09 hey patrick Apr 16 16:38:14 * halfhalo wants portal 2 noooooooow Apr 16 16:38:45 hay nerhaljaf Apr 16 16:38:53 nerjaljaf* Apr 16 16:39:01 nergaljaf** lol Apr 16 16:39:25 * halfhalo goes to play 1.. 2... 3... Kick it! (Drop that beat like an ugly baby) Apr 16 16:40:01 any new leaks? Apr 16 16:40:17 * Tibfib is going to start either a new fft or ff9 game Apr 16 16:40:57 just bought a new psp battery for this purpose. Apr 16 16:45:35 god I hate the Pixi Plus back Apr 16 16:45:45 lol, why? Apr 16 16:45:51 such a bitch to get off Apr 16 16:46:01 lol Apr 16 16:46:08 the pre back isn't ;) Apr 16 16:46:10 * PatrickC_Pre2 ducks Apr 16 16:46:32 PatrickC_Pre2: I know, I have a Pre- and Pre 2 :P Apr 16 16:47:05 then y are you using the pixi? Apr 16 17:04:14 PatrickC_Pre2: for development and testing Apr 16 17:04:24 ah ok Apr 16 17:04:28 makes snese Apr 16 17:06:33 PatrickC_Pre2: My app seemed to completely crash my Pixi Apr 16 17:08:00 weird Apr 16 17:09:43 bbl Apr 16 17:13:13 ok, now I'm getting a white screen on launch and no errors :/ Apr 16 17:23:18 gg random restarts on my pre2... Apr 16 17:54:05 * PatrickC_Pre2 walks by Apr 16 17:54:12 struggling with some sql... :/ Apr 16 17:54:43 I haven't learned sql yet.. still need to master the art of the Mojo.Cookie Apr 16 17:55:22 anyone else experiencing horrid battery life on their pre2? Apr 16 17:57:30 nah, I forgot to charge mine the other night and it was almost full when I woke up Apr 16 17:58:12 cool... mine is horrid.. 1 hr after its taken off charge, I'm at about 70%-60% Apr 16 17:59:28 that happens to me at my parents house Apr 16 17:59:33 signal is horrid there Apr 16 18:00:01 also, if you're using it for the whole hour that's pretty much what's going to happen with any smartphone Apr 16 18:00:15 hehe I know Apr 16 18:00:37 but its a wifi-only phone... Apr 16 18:01:19 I have two spare batteries for my Pre 2, all good :P Apr 16 18:01:24 turn down your brightness Apr 16 18:02:02 I like it bright lol Apr 16 18:02:26 but I don't mind the battery dying quick, I'm always around a charger Apr 16 18:03:22 any1 around who has experience with openlayers ? Apr 16 18:07:50 lets see how much of webOS was stolen by RIM Apr 16 18:15:06 * PatrickC_Pre2 is really liking RIM's version of webOS :/ Apr 16 18:18:41 they did a good job http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KslLUmej4hw&feature=youtube_gdata_player Apr 16 19:07:12 I didn't realize the playbook has a gesture area Apr 16 19:07:18 I really with the touchpad did Apr 16 19:09:35 it doesn't really Apr 16 19:09:42 it has like, a 1px area on the edge of the screen Apr 16 19:09:55 if it detects a gesture starting there then it does something different Apr 16 19:10:00 so you have to start from the outside Apr 16 19:11:59 got to play with a touchpad yesterday :D (sort of) Apr 16 19:12:13 @SineOt oh, that's less cool Apr 16 19:12:46 yeah Apr 16 19:13:05 it's a creative solution for sure Apr 16 19:47:34 Draecos: at the sf meetup? Apr 16 19:47:39 i missed it :( Apr 16 19:50:13 hi! tiny question: are binary XMLHttpRequests (send and receive) possible with javascript in webos (and how?)? Apr 16 19:57:40 hay cwayne Apr 16 20:04:59 http://twitter.com/#!/therealcliffyb/status/59341639621156865 Apr 16 20:05:00 HAHA Apr 16 20:06:21 ohno lol Apr 16 20:07:09 how's it goin dawm_? Apr 16 20:07:29 its goin Apr 16 20:08:12 keith, no at the gadgetshow yesterday Apr 16 20:08:23 where? Apr 16 20:08:39 PatrickC_Pre2: yo Apr 16 20:08:50 how's it goin cwayne? Apr 16 20:09:22 ive felt better Apr 16 20:09:52 who here uses SimpleFTP Apr 16 20:34:30 hay mattsmcnulty Apr 16 20:34:40 hola Apr 16 20:35:48 hola Apr 16 20:36:43 how's it goin? Apr 16 20:36:49 oh, it's going Apr 16 20:37:05 fairly busy, as anyone in the EA program can probably attest to in silence Apr 16 20:37:47 is the ban hammer comin down? :) Apr 16 20:38:34