**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jun 07 02:59:57 2011
Jun 07 04:13:23 <dwc-> 18:36 < NuttyBunny> the bastards... I just got a $5 coupon :@
Jun 07 04:13:26 <dwc-> I didn't even get that :(
Jun 07 04:13:38 <dwc-> I want my coupon
Jun 07 04:38:53 <dwc-> sugardave: there's /window move in rissi if you just want to move things around
Jun 07 04:39:27 <halfhalo> dont lie
Jun 07 04:40:07 <sugardave> dwc-: ah, okay...I should spend some time with the irrsi docs one day :D
Jun 07 04:45:37 <haeffb> there's also x-chat for windows
Jun 07 04:46:11 <halfhalo> getamac
Jun 07 04:47:14 <dwc-> that way you can have irssi for mac, and xchat for mac? :P
Jun 07 04:47:21 <sugardave> hahaha
Jun 07 04:52:46 <dwc-> http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevincollins/5806184119/
Jun 07 04:52:47 <dwc-> fancy car
Jun 07 04:53:10 <halfhalo> tup
Jun 07 04:53:14 <halfhalo> yup
Jun 07 04:57:39 <LoneStar99> lol, that is sweet
Jun 07 04:59:56 <LoneStar99> found an imitation benz yesterday
Jun 07 05:14:51 <LoneStar99> HP is shutting down the app RSS feeds in less than 24 hours
Jun 07 05:21:36 <twbbas> Where did you hear that, LoneStar99?
Jun 07 05:27:01 <LoneStar99> was told by HP via phone call earlier this afternoon
Jun 07 05:27:27 <LoneStar99> eventually they will release a better system or API rather
Jun 07 05:27:58 <twbbas> They are shutting down for good?
Jun 07 05:28:00 <twbbas> And why?
Jun 07 05:29:11 <LoneStar99> yeap, cuss it will break eventually they way it is structured
Jun 07 05:29:53 <twbbas> Weird
Jun 07 05:30:02 <twbbas> Hopefully they replace it soon
Jun 07 05:30:09 <twbbas> This affects a lot of stuff O.O
Jun 07 05:30:47 <LoneStar99> yeah it affects one of my apps, precentral, webosroundup, myappbox and others
Jun 07 05:31:19 <halfhalo> and preware
Jun 07 05:31:42 <LoneStar99> yeah preware forsure
Jun 07 05:32:00 <twbbas> beta apps won't be accessible through Preware anymore...
Jun 07 05:32:05 <twbbas> The dev will have to actually link to it
Jun 07 05:33:25 <LoneStar99> there is a simple fix for the feed, which HP could develop in less than 24 hours, I will email them...
Jun 07 05:34:28 <LoneStar99> it simply deals with "pagination, pre-indexed search content, and simple api structure for the rss feed"
Jun 07 05:40:06 <dwc-> why not wait until it IS broken
Jun 07 05:40:39 <dwc-> I mean, it probably won't actually break until the coming months, right?
Jun 07 05:42:54 <LoneStar99> well, i think it is on the verge of breaking, and with the incoming ipad launch it would be very likely with all the new app submissions
Jun 07 05:45:52 <dwc-> I actually don't care if they break the main catalog feed
Jun 07 05:45:56 <dwc-> but that's probably the one they do care about
Jun 07 05:46:13 <LoneStar99> yeah
Jun 07 05:46:49 <dwc-> I'm more interested in the beta feed
Jun 07 05:49:12 <LoneStar99> i am interested in all the feeds =( was gonna begin migrating my app catalog app to enyo today, but quickly dropped that idea after the phone call
Jun 07 05:50:37 <dwc-> I did nto know there were other app catalog apps
Jun 07 05:52:06 <LoneStar99> yeah --> this is the one I developed http://urloid.com/palm17
Jun 07 05:54:14 <dwc-> bummer
Jun 07 05:55:31 <LoneStar99> yeaper
Jun 07 05:57:28 <dwc-> could be worse ... you could have been making some iphone app for geolocation reminders or something
Jun 07 05:57:54 <dwc-> or whatever it was they're putting in
Jun 07 06:01:08 <LoneStar99> lol yeah
Jun 07 06:29:20 <rwhitby> LoneStar99: ORLY?!!!
Jun 07 07:22:08 <hotdp> ?
Jun 07 07:24:32 <LoneStar99> howdy hotdp\
Jun 07 07:29:53 <hotdp> hey LoneStar99, whats up`
Jun 07 07:31:02 <LoneStar99> here working on some app, that is eating up memory like no other app alive
Jun 07 07:34:30 <hotdp> lokl
Jun 07 07:35:47 <LoneStar99> it is even killing my browsers during testing...
Jun 07 07:49:24 <LoneStar99> alright chat laters time for some ZZZs
Jun 07 07:49:31 <hotdp> night LoneStar99
Jun 07 07:49:41 <LoneStar99> laters hotdp
Jun 07 08:33:17 <LOL> anyone here that can anser a question about the palm pre plus?
Jun 07 08:33:25 <LOL> answer
Jun 07 09:46:08 <sugardave> I'm up waaaay too late
Jun 07 09:47:02 <sugardave> but, I have been having a great time in Sunnyvale hanging with my team and meeting DevRel people (hi chuq!)
Jun 07 09:48:25 <sugardave> I only saw Adora in one meeting, though, and I don't think she recognized me.  That's okay, I probably wouldn't remember who SUGARDAVE was, anyway :P
Jun 07 09:56:52 <hotdp> hehe
Jun 07 09:57:00 <hotdp> sugardave: nice you had a good trip!
Jun 07 15:16:38 <phoque_uni> meh
Jun 07 15:16:56 <phoque_uni> the app icon disappeared once I've added a service to it
Jun 07 15:26:46 * haeffb_pre working on ideas for new company name
Jun 07 15:27:54 <phoque_uni> oh
Jun 07 15:28:00 <phoque_uni> it appears to be a problem with the emulator
Jun 07 15:28:02 <phoque_uni> time for a reboot
Jun 07 15:28:16 <ryanwatkins> Company name - "404 Not Found"
Jun 07 15:28:35 <ryanwatkins> LLC
Jun 07 15:31:08 <haeffb_pre> nice. saves on domain name registration
Jun 07 15:33:48 <haeffb_pre> sugardav1: turns out I was test holding the wrong button
Jun 07 15:34:09 <haeffb_pre> doh!
Jun 07 15:34:49 <haeffb_pre> how does "retirement fund apps" sound? too self-serving?
Jun 07 15:35:00 <LoneStar99> morning folks
Jun 07 15:35:21 <maik> haeffb_pre: a bit
Jun 07 15:35:32 <haeffb_pre> LoneStar99, morning
Jun 07 15:35:42 <haeffb_pre> "make me rich apps"?
Jun 07 15:35:54 <maik> Apps That Suck Less
Jun 07 15:36:17 <haeffb_pre> false advertising, wouldn't work
Jun 07 15:36:22 <maik> heh
Jun 07 15:36:33 <maik> I Spent Three Hours On This App, Please Buy It LLC
Jun 07 15:36:49 <LoneStar99> "show me the money apps!"
Jun 07 15:36:54 <haeffb_pre> ooh, like that!
Jun 07 15:37:14 * halfhalo is once again stuck at Toyota dealership waiting for shuttle
Jun 07 15:37:40 <haeffb_pre> "what do you mean, broken? apps"
Jun 07 15:39:17 <halfhalo> "thats a feature" apps
Jun 07 15:45:35 <dawm> http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lm0tyxt8tF1qctkcl.jpg
Jun 07 15:47:30 <LoneStar99> dawm:  damn
Jun 07 15:54:56 <halfhalo> Heh... Someone with a pre here
Jun 07 15:55:01 <LoneStar99> yeah
Jun 07 15:55:04 <LoneStar99> pre here
Jun 07 15:55:32 <mikedg1> i have 3 pre's
Jun 07 15:55:34 <mikedg1> want to buy one?
Jun 07 15:55:45 <mikedg1> att pre plus is open but unused
Jun 07 15:55:49 <halfhalo> Bah, pre
Jun 07 15:55:57 <mikedg1> anyone have a post?
Jun 07 15:55:59 <halfhalo> :p
Jun 07 15:56:05 <halfhalo> Mebe....
Jun 07 15:58:15 <halfhalo> Og pre as well, with shiny back
Jun 07 16:09:35 <LoneStar99> anyone ever use prototype on a "web site"
Jun 07 16:11:16 <LoneStar99> it seems to me making frequent ajax requests using  Ajax.PeriodicalUpdater() kills browser memory...
Jun 07 16:12:15 <LoneStar99> and kills the browser all together only after a few minutes...
Jun 07 16:18:27 <hotdp> i haven ever used that one
Jun 07 16:19:51 <LoneStar99> yeah, asking the prototype folks why it is killing my browser
Jun 07 16:30:58 <AtomicPlayboy> chuqui: Ping?
Jun 07 16:31:22 <chuqui> AtomicPlayboy: point
Jun 07 16:31:25 <chuqui> point.
Jun 07 16:31:33 <chuqui> god. I can't ype this morning. Poing.
Jun 07 16:31:50 <AtomicPlayboy> I usually go with "splort" or something odd.
Jun 07 17:03:30 <ryanwatkins> Pong.
Jun 07 17:07:26 <LoneStar99> have the following code and want to convert it http://pastebin.com/mLNbQpRx
Jun 07 17:07:58 <LoneStar99> instead of dragging a div i want to leave a point where the drag occurs...
Jun 07 17:13:43 <sugardav1> haeffb_pre: yeah, holding the wrong button won't work :P
Jun 07 17:14:39 <haeffb_pre> not in most cases
Jun 07 17:16:50 <sugardave> haeffb_pre: how about "Jalopy Apps" or "No Refunds, LLC"
Jun 07 17:17:30 <dawm> http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/07/the-wiiu-nintendos-next-console/
Jun 07 17:17:33 <dawm> stupid name..
Jun 07 17:18:21 <LoneStar99> sugardave how could I convert the following from dragging a div to adding a point to where drag occurs?  http://pastebin.com/mLNbQpRx
Jun 07 17:19:07 <sugardave> dawm: it's like Wii School or something
Jun 07 17:19:10 <AtomicPlayboy> I like the sound of "No Refunds, LLC."
Jun 07 17:19:14 <dawm> no
Jun 07 17:19:17 <dawm> WiiU is the new wii
Jun 07 17:19:22 <dawm> like i said stupid name
Jun 07 17:19:29 <dawm> We, You
Jun 07 17:19:30 <sugardave> I know, it is a dumb name
Jun 07 17:19:35 <sugardave> OHHHH
Jun 07 17:19:38 <sugardave> punny
Jun 07 17:19:46 <dawm> yeah
Jun 07 17:20:07 <dawm> the you part is cause of the screen being on the controller so you dont even have to use the tv
Jun 07 17:20:15 <sugardave> LoneStar99: not sure I understand what you mean?
Jun 07 17:20:48 <sugardave> that's kind of cool...I remember when my friend had a DreamCast and those little LCDs on the controllers...was awesome for Madden
Jun 07 17:22:25 <LoneStar99> ok pastebin code works great for dragging a div around the screen, what i want to do is instead of dragging div id="canvas" I want  it to listen when a drag occurs on id="canvas" and plot a point where the drag occurs, kinda like a drawing program
Jun 07 17:24:17 <sugardave> then you'll need a canvas
Jun 07 17:24:31 <AtomicPlayboy> BBL.
Jun 07 17:24:32 <sugardave> get the screen coordinates from the drag event
Jun 07 17:24:39 <sugardave> then draw on the canvas
Jun 07 17:25:28 <sugardave> you can probably take a look at one of the many painting/drawing apps to get an idea for how to do it
Jun 07 17:26:04 <sugardave> OMG Ico for PS3?
Jun 07 17:26:06 <LoneStar99> sugardave: can't use canvas, cuss it causes a memory leak in what I am trying to do, need a homegrown solution
Jun 07 17:26:21 <sugardave> and I never played Shadow of the Colossus, but I saw a video once....very cool game
Jun 07 17:26:31 <sugardave> LoneStar99: good luck, then
Jun 07 17:26:36 <LoneStar99> lol
Jun 07 17:27:01 <sugardave> you can't just draw an arbitrary thing without...unless somebody else knows something
Jun 07 17:27:07 <haeffb_pre> sugardave: if you're in the office, go kick someone for me
Jun 07 17:27:15 <sugardave> haeffb_pre: I'm not
Jun 07 17:27:29 <sugardave> unfortunate, too...I like kicking people
Jun 07 17:27:36 <dohtem> wtf, there is a Teen Wolf TV show now?
Jun 07 17:27:56 <sugardave> who cares?  Ico is coming to PS3
Jun 07 17:28:34 <LoneStar99> sugardave: so with the code I posted it would not be possible to convert to something like a canvas "painter"?
Jun 07 17:29:28 <sugardave> LoneStar99: well, "convert" isn't the word I'd use...more like re-architect.  And without a canvas, I say impossible
Jun 07 17:30:39 <LoneStar99> sugardave: ok let me do some research, gonna try some hybrid codeage
Jun 07 17:30:56 <haeffb_pre> drat. sitting here with no response.
Jun 07 17:31:11 <haeffb_pre> of course, its early there
Jun 07 17:32:21 <sugardave> haeffb_pre: oh, I may have told them something like "Don't help that haeffb guy.  He's my mortal enemy."
Jun 07 17:32:27 <sugardave> but I can't remember for sure
Jun 07 17:32:46 <haeffb_pre> foe!
Jun 07 17:32:55 <sugardave> foe foe foe
Jun 07 17:34:44 <sugardave> of course....leaving today and the sun is shining, temperature is beautiful....it freaking rained and was cold the entire time I was here
Jun 07 17:35:48 <LoneStar99> sugardave: welcome to california
Jun 07 17:36:04 <haeffb_pre> see, my allies are more powerful than yours.
Jun 07 17:36:17 <LoneStar99> all week is it sunny and in the weekend it rains and is overcast, that is even true for san diego
Jun 07 17:37:07 <sugardave> hahaha:  http://twitter.com/#!/brianleroux/status/78123380930396160
Jun 07 17:37:42 <LoneStar99> position:fixed ... wtf
Jun 07 17:38:13 <Loudergood> we need fancier tags, like position:rotating
Jun 07 17:38:29 <sugardave> position: immutable
Jun 07 17:38:38 <ryanwatkins> position: random
Jun 07 17:38:50 <halfhalo> position:awesome
Jun 07 17:38:52 <sugardave> entropy: 50%
Jun 07 17:39:23 <LoneStar99> position:confused
Jun 07 17:40:52 <LoneStar99> novacom error: err -99 "Command: put file:///media/internal/.developer/in.bobc.cc_1.0.0_all.ipk  Reply:file open failed"  first time with error... anyone what how to fix that?
Jun 07 17:41:20 <LoneStar99> restarted eclipse and emulator and still get "err -99"
Jun 07 17:41:51 <ryanwatkins> so which app is going to have a readable example of using Google Analyics?  its not gonna be the Facebook one ...
Jun 07 17:42:15 <LoneStar99> my bad had the device connected to computer
Jun 07 17:51:35 <oil_pre> adora, you review wirc yet?
Jun 07 17:51:48 <oil_pre> :)
Jun 07 17:52:22 <AtomicPlayboy> kill -SIGFIRE --lots
Jun 07 17:52:55 <ryanwatkins> And the winner is "App Catalog"
Jun 07 17:53:08 <cwayne> ryanwatkins: wat
Jun 07 17:53:27 <ryanwatkins> an application with code for google analytics thats readable.
Jun 07 17:53:42 <oil_pre> lol
Jun 07 17:53:46 <ryanwatkins> For various definitions of "readable" I guess.
Jun 07 17:53:46 <oil_pre> yeah
Jun 07 17:53:47 <AtomicPlayboy> Is that an "oops?"
Jun 07 17:53:56 <cwayne> ryanwatkins: oh shit i want that for me
Jun 07 17:54:35 <ryanwatkins> novaterm, tar, copy.
Jun 07 17:55:15 <AtomicPlayboy> Learn somethin' new every day
Jun 07 17:55:26 <cwayne> wait whaat
Jun 07 17:55:29 <AtomicPlayboy> I'ma get me sum ejamacation
Jun 07 17:55:55 * sugardave writes "HAHA N00B!" on a piece of paper and puts it in the TouchPad box that will be in his checked bag.
Jun 07 17:56:10 <sugardave> the EMPTY TouchPad box, that is
Jun 07 17:56:15 <AtomicPlayboy> How did you get a TouchPad box?
Jun 07 17:56:31 <sugardave> AtomicPlayboy: it's what my TouchPad came in
Jun 07 17:56:37 <AtomicPlayboy> Oh
Jun 07 17:56:42 <AtomicPlayboy> So you actually have a TouchPad
Jun 07 17:56:55 <AtomicPlayboy> Where do I sign up?
Jun 07 17:56:55 <sugardave> indeed I do...it's necessary for my job :D
Jun 07 17:57:02 <cwayne> sugardave: i hate your face.
Jun 07 17:57:02 <sugardave> get hired ;)
Jun 07 17:57:07 <AtomicPlayboy> Hah.
Jun 07 17:57:09 <ryanwatkins> or wait a week.
Jun 07 17:57:13 <AtomicPlayboy> see my above "kill" statement
Jun 07 17:57:22 <Adora> oil_pre:  no, I rejectz0red it
Jun 07 17:57:30 <halfhalo> dundunDUN
Jun 07 17:57:37 <cwayne> lololol
Jun 07 17:57:39 <oil_pre> :(
Jun 07 17:57:48 <AtomicPlayboy> pwn3d
Jun 07 17:57:49 <sugardave> oil_pre: I blame Adora
Jun 07 17:58:08 <oil_pre> didn't get rejection email
Jun 07 17:58:15 <Adora> I told you!
Jun 07 17:58:19 <Adora> DOS line endings!
Jun 07 17:58:24 <Adora> cannot haz
Jun 07 17:58:26 <ryanwatkins> ooo
Jun 07 17:58:31 <oil_pre> we haven't even gotten to the reviewing of the actual app yet
Jun 07 17:58:44 <AtomicPlayboy> Oh
Jun 07 17:58:46 <AtomicPlayboy> dos2unix
Jun 07 17:58:52 <Adora> DOS line endings make the app all sticky, hard to push through the system
Jun 07 17:59:11 <oil_pre> make the system better!
Jun 07 17:59:21 <Adora> make your line endings better  =]
Jun 07 17:59:22 <AtomicPlayboy> vi/vim will handle line end conversion nicely.
Jun 07 17:59:30 * halfhalo thinks buying oil a mac would make this whole thing alot faster/easier
Jun 07 17:59:31 <AtomicPlayboy> Or you can make your life really hard and use emacs.
Jun 07 17:59:44 <sugardave> find . -name "*" | xargs dos2unix
Jun 07 17:59:46 <ryanwatkins> emacs rox!
Jun 07 17:59:47 <sugardave> awesome
Jun 07 18:00:02 <oil_pre> feel free to buy me a mac lol
Jun 07 18:00:10 <ryanwatkins> emacs.  free.
Jun 07 18:00:14 <AtomicPlayboy> Alt-M-Ctrl-Space-Butterfly
Jun 07 18:00:48 <AtomicPlayboy> Oh, sorry
Jun 07 18:00:55 <AtomicPlayboy> C-x M-c M-butterfly
Jun 07 18:01:01 <oil_pre> then itl be 0.4.2 with no changes
Jun 07 18:01:16 <oil_pre> palm making my version umbers mean nothing
Jun 07 18:02:00 * Adora wobbles oil_pre 
Jun 07 18:02:12 <AtomicPlayboy> Version 2.0: now with more comments!
Jun 07 18:02:12 <oil_pre> Adora, so whe will it actually be rejected? I'll be able to resubmit this evening
Jun 07 18:02:27 <oil_pre> or whenever jury duty is over today :/
Jun 07 18:02:36 * oil_pre is in jury room right now
Jun 07 18:02:45 <Adora> already rejected, submit at any time
Jun 07 18:03:19 <oil_pre> oh
Jun 07 18:03:32 * oil_pre checks portal
Jun 07 18:03:35 <Adora> I am ON THIS, man!
Jun 07 18:03:46 <AtomicPlayboy> ...that's what she said.
Jun 07 18:03:51 <Adora> hahahahaha
Jun 07 18:03:55 * AtomicPlayboy prepares to be kicked.
Jun 07 18:04:14 <oil_pre> next question, why can't the devportal remember me?
Jun 07 18:04:49 <oil_pre> lol
Jun 07 18:05:17 <cwayne> thats so annoying
Jun 07 18:06:08 <AtomicPlayboy> I prefer entering passwords by hand for some things.
Jun 07 18:06:19 <AtomicPlayboy> Not that I have any IP in devportal yet.
Jun 07 18:06:32 <oil_pre> websites aren't one of them heh
Jun 07 18:07:56 <sugardave> I'm going to have to bitch at ThinkGeek...this bag of holding is FULL!  HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?
Jun 07 18:08:08 <halfhalo> To many unicorns?
Jun 07 18:08:36 * oil_pre notices how adora got silent when he asked about devportal cookies haha
Jun 07 18:08:45 <Adora> not my problem
Jun 07 18:08:47 <Adora> =]
Jun 07 18:09:01 <oil_pre> but you're our contact for palm
Jun 07 18:09:02 <AtomicPlayboy> What's this about Unicron?
Jun 07 18:09:06 <sugardave> it remembers me....for a few hours
Jun 07 18:09:21 <halfhalo> it has Alzheimer's
Jun 07 18:09:23 <oil_pre> don't you know who to smack on the back of the head to get this worked out?
Jun 07 18:09:29 <ryanwatkins> only if you do something every 30 min.
Jun 07 18:09:29 <oil_pre> lol
Jun 07 18:09:31 <AtomicPlayboy> Unicron has Alzheimers?
Jun 07 18:09:36 <haeffb_pre> only because you're so memorable
Jun 07 18:10:02 <Adora> OK NO MORE QUESTIONS
Jun 07 18:10:08 <halfhalo> awwww
Jun 07 18:10:08 <oil_pre> lol
Jun 07 18:10:22 <sugardave> Adora, why not? :P
Jun 07 18:10:23 <Adora> I am going to take a shower and shave for the first time in two months, because as of tonight I will no longer live alone
Jun 07 18:10:35 <AdoraTMI> LATER BITCHES
Jun 07 18:10:36 <halfhalo> yes/
Jun 07 18:10:38 <sugardave> woohoo, congratulations
Jun 07 18:10:39 <mikedg1> forever alone
Jun 07 18:10:40 <halfhalo> tmi
Jun 07 18:10:41 <oil_pre> lol
Jun 07 18:10:43 <cwayne> bow chicka bow bowwwwwwwwwwww
Jun 07 18:10:49 <oil_pre> haha
Jun 07 18:10:57 <mikedg1> AdoraTMI, you are moving  back home to your parents?
Jun 07 18:11:03 <AtomicPlayboy> I'm sorry to hear that AdoraTMI
Jun 07 18:11:05 * haeffb_pre wants one of them thar TouchPad thingies like sugardave got
Jun 07 18:11:06 <AtomicPlayboy> Best of luck to you.
Jun 07 18:11:22 <oil_pre> but now precentral is gonna suck, all because of AdoraTMI
Jun 07 18:11:24 <AtomicPlayboy> haeffb_pre: I'm pretty sure everyone in this room and the next want a TouchPad like sugardave.
Jun 07 18:11:34 <halfhalo> oil_pre: it sucked before
Jun 07 18:11:46 <halfhalo> FORUM IDIOTS ABOUND!
Jun 07 18:11:50 <AtomicPlayboy> Why is precentral gonna suck?
Jun 07 18:11:52 <haeffb_pre> yeah, but I want HARDER than you guys
Jun 07 18:11:59 <oil_pre> every forum is like that
Jun 07 18:12:01 <sugardave> hahaha
Jun 07 18:12:03 <oil_pre> haha
Jun 07 18:12:04 <AtomicPlayboy> Whoa wait what?
Jun 07 18:12:10 <haeffb_pre> "that's what she said"
Jun 07 18:12:20 * AtomicPlayboy headdesks
Jun 07 18:12:29 <AtomicPlayboy> Alright, I'm going back to...work...
Jun 07 18:12:47 * oil_pre resubmits wirc all on one line
Jun 07 18:12:54 <oil_pre> NO LINE ENDINGS!
Jun 07 18:12:57 <haeffb_pre> lol
Jun 07 18:13:13 <oil_pre> then itl probably puke because of no line endings
Jun 07 18:13:17 <LoneStar99> haeffb_pre: was told there are some touchpad in lock and key at HP to give away to some devs...
Jun 07 18:13:22 <oil_pre> thing is so tempermental
Jun 07 18:13:24 <haeffb_pre> except at the...uh...end
Jun 07 18:13:32 <oil_pre> no!
Jun 07 18:13:36 <oil_pre> none!
Jun 07 18:13:54 <haeffb_pre> who's kev?
Jun 07 18:14:16 <haeffb_pre> and why's he sitting on my TouchPad?
Jun 07 18:14:24 <LoneStar99> damn kev
Jun 07 18:14:42 <AdoraTMI-YokoOno> oil_pre:  all on one line = catchphrase!
Jun 07 18:14:48 <AdoraTMI-YokoOno> OK REALLY AFK NOW
Jun 07 18:14:59 <oil_pre> lol
Jun 07 18:15:27 <oil_pre> I'm gonna add that as a tagline in 0.4.2
Jun 07 18:16:21 <haeffb_pre> gotta change something or your versioning means *nothing*
Jun 07 18:16:34 <oil_pre> srsly
Jun 07 18:17:04 <oil_pre> gonna add some easter eggs that make fun of devportal/submission process
Jun 07 18:17:23 <oil_pre> and AdoraTMI-YokoOno specifically
Jun 07 18:17:42 * haeffb_pre gonna start using random number generator for versions
Jun 07 18:17:56 <halfhalo> oil_pre: good man.
Jun 07 18:18:03 <haeffb_pre> 165.1.42694348
Jun 07 18:18:56 <cwayne> 1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.3
Jun 07 18:19:35 <halfhalo> 0>x>9999999.0>x>9999999.0>x>99999999
Jun 07 18:19:37 <dawm> just use version numbers based on the unix time that you finished that version and then times it by 5
Jun 07 18:20:07 <cwayne> just use 13.3.7
Jun 07 18:20:19 <sugardave> I get to be extra douche-y at airport security today: 2 laptops and my precious
Jun 07 18:21:08 <halfhalo> sugardave: been there, done that (but with an ipad)
Jun 07 18:22:02 <cwayne> lol i had 3 laptops and a tablet once
Jun 07 18:22:03 <sugardave> mine's better
Jun 07 18:22:04 <cwayne> they were confused
Jun 07 18:22:14 <dawm> gonna suck when they take your precious
Jun 07 18:22:23 <sugardave> I came here with one laptop, so I'm ahead in this game
Jun 07 18:22:30 <sugardave> dawm: you'll see me on the news
Jun 07 18:22:53 <mikedg1> i had 3 phones, 2 tablets, a laptop, and an adk once
Jun 07 18:22:54 <halfhalo> "crazy hp employee stabs TSA agent after TSA tried to examine tablet"
Jun 07 18:23:06 <dawm> halfhalo, they would change that
Jun 07 18:23:31 <dawm> it would be disgruntal hp employee steals early prototype and trys to escape TSA agents at airport
Jun 07 18:23:44 <oil_pre> we almost made it 0.3.14
Jun 07 18:24:04 <oil_pre> but decided to bump it up to 0.4.x
Jun 07 18:24:04 <dawm> just use PI for a version
Jun 07 18:24:29 <oil_pre> get rejected for not having it in x.x.x format
Jun 07 18:24:31 <dawm> and add a digit each revision
Jun 07 18:25:20 <oil_pre> they only let x.x.x in the catalog
Jun 07 18:25:46 <oil_pre> preware supports like x.x.x.x-x.x/x or whatever
Jun 07 18:27:53 <haeffb_pre> spoilsports
Jun 07 18:28:30 <haeffb_pre> looking at you, chuqui and AdoraTMI-YokoOno
Jun 07 18:29:04 <oil_pre> just rwhitby demanding it support all those
Jun 07 18:29:49 <chuqui> "You can be my Yoko Ono!"
Jun 07 18:29:52 <halfhalo> next it will be alpha numeric versions "alpha.alhpa.beta-gamma"
Jun 07 18:30:02 <haeffb_pre> and sugardave. he's involved somehow in this nefarious plot
Jun 07 18:30:46 * halfhalo shakes fist
Jun 07 18:31:15 <haeffb_pre> "You can call me Betty, and Betty, when you call me..."
Jun 07 18:31:43 <sugardave> AL!!!!!!
Jun 07 18:32:11 <haeffb_pre> Betty?
Jun 07 18:32:14 <oil_pre> adora and chuq got seniority though, so it's all sugardaves fault
Jun 07 18:32:37 * haeffb_pre blames...wait for it...
Jun 07 18:32:42 * sugardave whistles innocently.
Jun 07 18:33:14 <oil_pre> blame game is no fun
Jun 07 18:33:19 <halfhalo> yes it is
Jun 07 18:33:22 <halfhalo> don't lie
Jun 07 18:33:26 <sugardave> oil_pre: not for you :D
Jun 07 18:33:29 <oil_pre> probably because I'm always on the wrong side
Jun 07 18:33:37 * halfhalo whistles
Jun 07 18:33:45 <oil_pre> and it's never my fault
Jun 07 18:33:53 <haeffb_pre> and whose fault is that...?
Jun 07 18:33:57 <oil_pre> look at the whoiswho page
Jun 07 18:34:04 <haeffb_pre> doh! preempted!
Jun 07 18:34:42 <haeffb_pre> curse you, tiny FrankenPre2 keyboard
Jun 07 18:35:20 <oil_pre> http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/WhoIsWho
Jun 07 18:35:41 <oil_pre> see!
Jun 07 18:36:06 <sugardave> lol
Jun 07 18:36:09 <oil_pre> and don't you dare edit that wiki page. you jerks!
Jun 07 18:36:20 <haeffb_pre> sugardave: what times the flight?
Jun 07 18:36:21 <sugardave> I would NEVER do something like that
Jun 07 18:36:25 * halfhalo would
Jun 07 18:36:34 * haeffb_pre just did
Jun 07 18:36:35 <sugardave> haeffb_pre: 3:00 Cali time
Jun 07 18:37:08 <haeffb_pre> cool. safe travels.
Jun 07 18:37:13 <sugardave> thanks
Jun 07 18:37:24 * haeffb_pre goes back to day job
Jun 07 18:37:27 <halfhalo> 2:59 : random snowstorm appears!
Jun 07 18:38:35 <LoneStar99> sugardave: why would line 3-8 cause the other functions not to work http://pastebin.com/7jn00miF
Jun 07 18:39:18 <oil_pre> 3 through 8?
Jun 07 18:39:26 <haeffb_pre> because the other lines once kicked sand in lines 3-8's face
Jun 07 18:39:41 <sugardave> LoneStar99: you are asking the WRONG guy about canvas...I know how to spell it, that's about it
Jun 07 18:39:50 * haeffb_pre 's day job is struggling comedian
Jun 07 18:40:25 <LoneStar99> sugardave: ok, i am sure it is something stupid I am overlooking
Jun 07 18:41:13 <sugardave> haeffb_pre: Boo!  Get off the stage!
Jun 07 18:41:44 * halfhalo throws tomatos
Jun 07 18:43:09 <sugardave> hilarious: http://twitter.com/#!/TROndrey/status/78091529553575936
Jun 07 18:45:28 <sugardave> see you guys later
Jun 07 18:53:31 <dawm> LOL @ twitter link
Jun 07 18:57:59 <Loudergood> yeah
Jun 07 18:58:25 <Loudergood> it'd be nice if it was completely open...but it's not bad on that front
Jun 07 19:02:10 <LoneStar99> that twitter link is like blind leading the blind....
Jun 07 19:03:51 <summatusmentis> it's important to remember that the xda people are used to having AOSP
Jun 07 19:08:58 <halfhalo> their all asshats, nothing more than that
Jun 07 19:09:45 <summatusmentis> well, I mean, but who isn't these days?
Jun 07 19:09:59 <AtomicPlayboy> I'm not.
Jun 07 19:10:41 <summatusmentis> lies
Jun 07 19:10:48 <cwayne> i sure am
Jun 07 19:11:15 <AtomicPlayboy> Phone fanboys make no sense to me.
Jun 07 19:11:19 <AtomicPlayboy> Scratch that.
Jun 07 19:11:24 <AtomicPlayboy> Fanboys make no sense to me.
Jun 07 19:11:41 <LoneStar99> i tried developing an android app and could not figure out some stupid directory error, so that was that
Jun 07 19:12:03 <cwayne> LoneStar99: its so much more annoying than a webos app
Jun 07 19:12:15 <AtomicPlayboy> I use both Android and webOS. The only thing I refuse to touch is iOS.
Jun 07 19:12:27 <summatusmentis> a prof I'm seriously considering work with wants me to learn android dev
Jun 07 19:12:40 <AtomicPlayboy> If/when I ever actually publish my app to the public, it'll be available on webOS and Android, but not iOS.
Jun 07 19:12:42 <LoneStar99> cwayne: yeah, plus the emulator seemed it was powered by some 286 processor, so freaking slow
Jun 07 19:12:43 <summatusmentis> AtomicPlayboy: I sorta feel the same way, although iOS 5 looks compelling
Jun 07 19:12:47 <LoneStar99> sad slow
Jun 07 19:12:55 <LoneStar99> ok lunch time
Jun 07 19:12:58 * halfhalo votes winphone7 as next best thing besides webos
Jun 07 19:13:00 <AtomicPlayboy> summatusmentis: iOS 5 has finally caught up to webOS 1.4 and Android 1.6
Jun 07 19:13:04 <cwayne> AtomicPlayboy: what's your app?
Jun 07 19:13:28 <AtomicPlayboy> It's nothing special, it's a catalog cycler I use for a program at work.
Jun 07 19:13:44 <summatusmentis> AtomicPlayboy: I don't disagree, but it's shiny :)
Jun 07 19:13:45 <AtomicPlayboy> If I can figure out an application for it outside of our own environment, I'll make it public.
Jun 07 19:13:53 <summatusmentis> which android 1.6 most definitely was not
Jun 07 19:13:54 <AtomicPlayboy> webOS is shinier. :P
Jun 07 19:14:22 <AtomicPlayboy> I don't give two shits about shininess, I want usability.
Jun 07 19:14:34 <AtomicPlayboy> Nothing about iOS is compelling to me over what I can do with either Android or webOS.
Jun 07 19:15:07 <AtomicPlayboy> And my app won't run on iPhone because an API that's open on webOS and Android can't be accessed without privileges on iOS.
Jun 07 19:15:28 <AtomicPlayboy> So, **** 'em.
Jun 07 19:17:21 <summatusmentis> don't get me wrong, I'll stick with webos
Jun 07 19:17:37 <summatusmentis> I'd just like to see HP build out some of the nice small features iOS has tht webos doesn't
Jun 07 19:19:11 <AtomicPlayboy> Right now my only beef with webOS is that WiFi authentication and association aren't configurable through the normal WiFi preferences pane.
Jun 07 19:19:57 <AtomicPlayboy> My work uses two-layer authentication, and the auth methods can't be configured by the app, only by restarting wpasupplicant in a terminal--which the GUI doesn't register as being connected.
Jun 07 19:26:13 <summatusmentis> I don't know, threaded email would be nice
Jun 07 20:07:06 <ryanwatkins> woot!  google analytics integrated in less than 2 hrs.
Jun 07 20:07:14 <halfhalo> shiny
Jun 07 20:07:26 <mikedg1> ryanwatkins, why you spying on me
Jun 07 20:07:43 <ryanwatkins> you bet
Jun 07 20:08:36 * ryanwatkins now needs a Terms and Conditions file apparently.
Jun 07 20:09:07 <mikedg1> i disagree to your terms
Jun 07 20:09:47 <halfhalo> I DISAGREE WITH YOUR DECISION TO DISAGREE
Jun 07 20:11:05 <mikedg1> nah
Jun 07 20:16:15 <LoneStar99> anyone see a problem with the following --> var img = new Image();   img.onload = function(){  ctx.drawImage(img,x,y); }
Jun 07 20:16:27 <LoneStar99> can't figure why I get an error...
Jun 07 20:20:44 <Popple3> LoneStar99: What's the error?
Jun 07 20:21:40 <LoneStar99> just get a red line, like syntax....
Jun 07 20:22:07 <Popple3> Have you tried running it?
Jun 07 20:22:40 <Popple3> I'm assuming ctx, x and y are already initialised earlier on?
Jun 07 20:22:50 <LoneStar99> yeah forsure
Jun 07 20:23:08 <Popple3> and at some point you're actually giving the img an src
Jun 07 20:23:53 <LoneStar99> yeah it is derived from https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Canvas_tutorial/Using_images
Jun 07 20:24:41 <LoneStar99> freaking weird
Jun 07 20:25:00 <Popple3> what happens when you try run it?
Jun 07 20:25:45 <LoneStar99> "error: Uncaught SyntaxError: Unexpected identifier"
Jun 07 20:26:13 <LoneStar99> error --> img.onload = function(){
Jun 07 20:27:13 <Popple3> hmmm... That would suggest you missed a semi-colon/bracket/brace just before img.onload
Jun 07 20:27:45 <Popple3> well, actually, not a brace, that wouldn't cause that, but the others would
Jun 07 20:29:30 <LoneStar99> yeah adding the code to another script, to see what hapens
Jun 07 20:30:24 <halfhalo> silly semi-colons
Jun 07 20:31:09 * Popple3 cracks open photoshop
Jun 07 20:31:14 <Popple3> It's icon designing time :D
Jun 07 20:31:50 <LoneStar99> shit I am an idiot --> 04  img.onload = function(){  had the stupid line number in the code thinking it was part of eclipse error-reporting
Jun 07 20:32:07 <summatusmentis> lol
Jun 07 20:32:09 <Popple3> lol
Jun 07 20:32:13 <Popple3> could happen to anyone
Jun 07 20:32:27 <halfhalo> lol
Jun 07 20:33:02 <Tibfib_uk> lol
Jun 07 20:34:19 <oil> lol
Jun 07 20:34:25 * oil didn't want to feel left out
Jun 07 20:35:04 <LoneStar99> lol
Jun 07 20:36:23 * halfhalo lols at oil 
Jun 07 20:36:29 <oil> :(
Jun 07 20:36:44 <halfhalo> it was a friendly lol, not an evil lol
Jun 07 20:37:07 <Tibfib_uk> lol
Jun 07 20:37:46 <oil> there is 2 kinds?
Jun 07 20:38:41 <oil> tibfib is still _uk>
Jun 07 20:38:46 <oil> long ass trip
Jun 07 20:39:01 <Tibfib_uk> leaving thursday
Jun 07 20:39:06 <oil> ah
Jun 07 20:39:15 <halfhalo> there is now!
Jun 07 20:39:15 <Tibfib_uk> it's been fun
Jun 07 20:39:29 <Tibfib_uk> that reminds me, I need to tweet something
Jun 07 20:39:30 * halfhalo is still waiting to hear about his car... gah
Jun 07 20:39:40 <oil> uh oh
Jun 07 20:39:54 <Tibfib_uk> halfhalo: what happened? I saw your tweet earlier
Jun 07 20:40:54 <halfhalo> brake's being retarded.
Jun 07 20:41:04 <Tibfib_uk> ugh, my image making skills cease to fail me
Jun 07 20:41:13 * avarus doesn't brake
Jun 07 20:41:14 <Tibfib_uk> halfhalo: well slap some sense into them!
Jun 07 20:41:21 <oil> cease to fail you?
Jun 07 20:41:34 <Tibfib_uk> hmm, I think so
Jun 07 20:41:43 <oil> not never?
Jun 07 20:41:55 <oil> so, it stopped failing you?
Jun 07 20:42:02 <halfhalo> abs is activating when it really has no reason to, and the brakes feel.... wrong
Jun 07 20:42:04 <Tibfib_uk> oh, there you go
Jun 07 20:42:14 <Tibfib_uk> brit's leave out the never
Jun 07 20:42:16 <Tibfib_uk> that's my issue
Jun 07 20:42:20 * Tibfib_uk hides
Jun 07 20:48:23 <LoneStar99> stupid code was working before lunch =(
Jun 07 20:50:40 <NuttyBunny> LoneStar99: use windows approach, reboot ;)
Jun 07 20:52:44 <LoneStar99> lol
Jun 07 20:53:13 <LoneStar99> another idiotic mistake, had some stupid div commented out...
Jun 07 20:53:29 <haeffb_> Popple3: make a couple for me while you're in there
Jun 07 20:53:57 <NuttyBunny> hehehe..
Jun 07 20:53:58 <Popple3> haeffb_: I'm already finished :P
Jun 07 20:54:23 <haeffb_> drat.
Jun 07 20:55:07 <halfhalo> guuuuuuuuhhhh stupid toyota dealership
Jun 07 20:55:08 <Popple3> 1) Crop texture I made earlier to app icon size. 2) Add black border at 50% opacity 3) Add slight white to transparent gradient overlay 4) Add text 5) ????? 6) PROFIT
Jun 07 20:55:59 <Popple3> It actually came out quite nice, which they very rarely do
Jun 07 20:56:00 <Popple3> lol
Jun 07 20:57:09 <halfhalo> lulz... this is funny
Jun 07 20:57:20 <halfhalo> doing interviews for rails lead dev in my department
Jun 07 20:57:31 <halfhalo> the three people being interviewed have to rails exp
Jun 07 20:58:20 <rsanchez1> hey guys, I have a quick palm-install question
Jun 07 20:58:41 <Popple3> rsanchez1: what is it?
Jun 07 20:58:59 <oil> you put the package filename after the palm-install part
Jun 07 20:59:06 <rsanchez1> if you have, say, version 1.1 of an app on your phone, and you tried to install version 1.0.1 using palm-install, would it not install the lower version number?
Jun 07 20:59:13 <Tibfib_uk> correct
Jun 07 20:59:21 <rsanchez1> ok, thanks
Jun 07 20:59:24 <Tibfib_uk> it just pretends you didn't try to install it
Jun 07 20:59:26 <halfhalo> you put the lime in the coconut and drink it all up!
Jun 07 20:59:47 <rsanchez1> I noticed it didn't change, but wanted to make sure that was what happened
Jun 07 20:59:48 <Popple3> rsanchez1: use "palm-install -r com.domain.whatever" to remove the newer version if you have tp
Jun 07 21:00:01 <Popple3> *to
Jun 07 21:00:18 <rsanchez1> I know, just wanted to make sure that's how palm-install works
Jun 07 21:00:21 <rsanchez1> thanks guys
Jun 07 21:00:47 <Popple3> now I'm off to get some fish and chips!
Jun 07 21:00:51 <Popple3> om nom nom
Jun 07 21:03:12 * oil enjoys that Adora's nick is still AdoraTMI-YokoOno
Jun 07 21:03:16 <Tibfib_uk> hahah
Jun 07 21:03:19 * halfhalo lulz
Jun 07 21:03:40 <Tibfib_uk> so I bet you guys have already talked about iOS 5, eh?
Jun 07 21:04:10 * oil doesnt know anything
Jun 07 21:04:28 <halfhalo> thats because your weird
Jun 07 21:04:51 <oil> correction: thats because i couldn't care less about ios
Jun 07 21:05:00 * halfhalo notes that came from someone with a winphone7 device
Jun 07 21:05:41 <Tibfib_uk> if I could get an iPhone (5?) with a changeable sim, I probably would
Jun 07 21:05:47 <Tibfib_uk> but since that's never going to happen....
Jun 07 21:06:15 <dohtem> Dont they sell them without contract?
Jun 07 21:06:31 <Tibfib_uk> sell what?
Jun 07 21:06:33 <Tibfib_uk> iPhones?
Jun 07 21:06:57 <NappyBunny> zzzzzzzzzzzzz
Jun 07 21:07:09 <halfhalo> lol
Jun 07 21:08:54 * haeffb has registered domain name for new company website
Jun 07 21:09:02 <Tibfib_uk> ooh nice
Jun 07 21:09:04 <Tibfib_uk> what's the name?
Jun 07 21:09:09 <dohtem> Balls Deep
Jun 07 21:09:22 <haeffb> that one was already registered...
Jun 07 21:09:30 <dohtem> probably by dawm
Jun 07 21:09:42 <haeffb> wait until it's propagated and then I'll show it.
Jun 07 21:10:13 <haeffb> if Tibfib_uk's not in bed by then
Jun 07 21:10:24 <summatusmentis> I mean, I wanna see too
Jun 07 21:10:26 <Tibfib_uk> hah, it is 10:11
Jun 07 21:10:32 <Tibfib_uk> I'll be up for another hour or so
Jun 07 21:10:40 <RagingMind> I should get myself a website, just-cause
Jun 07 21:11:29 <haeffb> everybody should have at least two
Jun 07 21:11:44 <haeffb> where else can you post pics of your Weiner
Jun 07 21:11:45 <LoneStar99> RagingMind:  everyone is doing it
Jun 07 21:11:50 <haeffb> s/Weiner/congressman
Jun 07 21:12:46 <dohtem> lol, I bet he had a webcam set up at home too
Jun 07 21:13:45 <RagingMind> the twitter thing was horrible judgment on his part, but in general I like the guy
Jun 07 21:15:36 <dohtem> APIs for "private non-commercial use only" suck
Jun 07 21:15:42 <haeffb> GIMP pisses me off.
Jun 07 21:32:07 <haeffb> GIMP pleases me
Jun 07 21:33:33 <Loudergood> haha
Jun 07 21:33:38 <Loudergood> tools are like that sometimes
Jun 07 21:42:18 <rwhitby> Can someone tell me if they see the new version of Preware I just released?
Jun 07 21:44:59 <haeffb> in Preware?
Jun 07 21:45:07 <haeffb> shows 1.6.3 available
Jun 07 21:45:15 <haeffb> I have 1.6.2
Jun 07 21:45:59 <Loudergood> same
Jun 07 21:46:03 <rwhitby> haeffb: can you check that it updates ok please?
Jun 07 21:46:32 <dawm> i dont have a balldeep domain
Jun 07 21:46:38 <dawm> er balls deep
Jun 07 21:46:50 <Loudergood> well...that's one hell of a changelog
Jun 07 21:46:59 <haeffb> downloading
Jun 07 21:47:12 <rwhitby> Loudergood: thank you for testing
Jun 07 21:47:24 <Loudergood> no problem
Jun 07 21:47:42 <haeffb> same
Jun 07 21:48:02 * haeffb assumes no one will read it and still complain to rwhitby 
Jun 07 21:48:10 * halfhalo does as well
Jun 07 21:48:34 <rwhitby> haeffb: indeed.  Check the List of Everything
Jun 07 21:50:12 <haeffb> and will also ignore an app named "app catalog announcement"
Jun 07 21:50:28 <haeffb> what happens if I install?
Jun 07 21:50:41 <halfhalo> you lose
Jun 07 21:50:47 <haeffb> again?
Jun 07 21:50:53 <halfhalo> yup
Jun 07 21:51:06 <dohtem> dawm: :)
Jun 07 21:51:22 <dawm> i just like how the name rolls off the tongue
Jun 07 21:51:28 <dawm> balllllls deeeeeeeep
Jun 07 21:53:26 <Loudergood> hmm..I can't seem to install this App catalog announcement app ;)
Jun 07 21:54:10 <dawm> fedex needs gps tracking for their trucks.. im sick of waiting for this damn package
Jun 07 21:54:23 <halfhalo> yup
Jun 07 21:55:09 <RagingMind> rwhitby, is updating to preware 1.6.3 supposed to remove the palm-* feeds? or just not show up on new installs?
Jun 07 21:55:21 <haeffb> better than waiting for a package to be shipped
Jun 07 21:55:27 <haeffb> :(
Jun 07 21:56:20 <Tibfib_uk> whaaa
Jun 07 21:56:24 <Tibfib_uk> why did palm close access to the feeds?
Jun 07 21:59:03 <dohtem> Tibfib_uk: Everybody On!
Jun 08 01:15:45 <NuttyBunny> So, the catalog feeds thing will mean that appscoop will stop working as well? :S
Jun 08 01:16:10 <dawm> yes
Jun 08 01:16:14 <dawm> anything that uses the feeds
Jun 08 01:21:36 * halfhalo shakes fist at AdoraTMI-YokoOno 
Jun 08 01:23:41 <Loudergood> looks like Richard Kerris is trying to calm everyone down on twitter
Jun 08 01:24:42 <oil> lol
Jun 08 01:24:59 <ka6sox-home> good luck...
Jun 08 01:25:06 <ka6sox-home> torches and pitchforks :(
Jun 08 01:26:51 <ryanwatkins> always a pain to make changes to your system when you have non-internal dependencies
Jun 08 01:27:22 * halfhalo ran out of pitchforks
Jun 08 01:29:27 <Loudergood> ryanwatkins: I agree, but working with them to ensure a smooth transition would be nicer
Jun 08 01:30:42 <ryanwatkins> i expect there is "nicer" and "oh my god rush to the deadline for 3.0!"
Jun 08 01:36:57 * NuttyBunny gives halfhalo the keys to the pitchfork truck
Jun 08 01:37:33 <halfhalo> Confucius says you can never have to many micro-usb cables.  I agree.
Jun 08 01:38:46 <NuttyBunny> I miss my nokia micro micro usb cable (about 4 inches long), perfect for usb tether+charging (no dev mode of course) // cc PuffTheMagic  ;)
Jun 08 01:39:58 <Loudergood> nice..I have a couple nook charging cables around that I use
Jun 08 01:40:07 <Loudergood> they're about 18"
Jun 08 01:40:19 <Loudergood> the palm one is crazy long
Jun 08 01:40:32 <NuttyBunny> I bought a 3ft retractable one for $2 from dealextreme ;)
Jun 08 01:40:55 <halfhalo> I use the palm car cables for my computers, and the ones that come with the ac adapters with the ac adapters
Jun 08 01:42:19 <halfhalo> also have solar chargers if needed
Jun 08 01:42:38 <ka6sox-home> Loudergood, the Nook cables are very nice.
Jun 08 01:42:42 <ka6sox-home> 2 layers
Jun 08 01:45:10 * halfhalo stares impatiently at his AAA battery charger, he wants to get his batteries and stick them in the kindle light and pack that up already
Jun 08 01:46:11 <Loudergood> 2 layers?
Jun 08 01:46:19 <ka6sox-home> 12 pins
Jun 08 01:46:31 <ka6sox-home> look @ it sometime.
Jun 08 01:46:35 <Loudergood> ah I see
Jun 08 01:46:42 <Loudergood> I didn't know there was a difference there
Jun 08 01:46:48 <Loudergood> and I mean e-ink nook
Jun 08 01:46:56 * Loudergood doesn't know much about usb cables
Jun 08 01:47:03 * halfhalo debates the lockpicks
Jun 08 01:47:05 <ka6sox-home> oh, sorry...I thought you meant the NookColor
Jun 08 01:47:10 <ka6sox-home> bringem'
Jun 08 01:47:17 <Loudergood> you never know
Jun 08 01:47:34 <Loudergood> I really think it would be awesome
Jun 08 01:47:44 <halfhalo> they can go in camera bag i guess
Jun 08 01:48:41 <Nuttybunny> whoa... It felt like a Luna restart, only that it was a X-windows restart... first one in ages
Jun 08 01:48:56 * halfhalo hates having three bags, but the camera is just to freaking unwieldy
Jun 08 01:52:59 <Loudergood> I mean I think it would be awesome if I could get a solar panel back for my nook
Jun 08 01:56:04 <dohtem> halfhalo: E3?
Jun 08 02:00:49 <halfhalo> dohtem: not this year.  tp dev event.
Jun 08 02:01:06 <Loudergood> def bring the picks then
Jun 08 02:08:35 <dohtem> ooh, lets see the pics halfhalo
Jun 08 02:09:45 <Loudergood> pics? http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/multimedia/e27depart.html
Jun 08 02:13:23 <NergalJAF> Loudergood, Nasa pics not webOS compatible !(
Jun 08 02:13:41 <Loudergood> that's disheartening
Jun 08 02:15:41 <Loudergood> wow that is an ugly failure
Jun 08 02:37:02 <haeffb> halfhalo: get one of those camera backpacks that has a slot for a laptop (or TouchPad)
Jun 08 02:37:52 <haeffb> like this one: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000YIYQ30/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_3
Jun 08 02:39:30 <haeffb> http://smallpondapps.com/2011/06/07/hello-world/
Jun 08 02:43:54 <ryanwatkins> need an app named BigFish
Jun 08 02:45:09 <haeffb> I'm the bigFish at smallPond
Jun 08 02:45:26 <haeffb> crap, I gotta register that username... :)
Jun 08 02:46:11 <Loudergood> haha
Jun 08 02:46:19 <Loudergood> it'd make a great email address
Jun 08 02:46:51 <haeffb> bigFish@smallpondapps.com
Jun 08 02:48:45 <Nuttybunny> bigpondapps.com is available... interesting :P
Jun 08 02:49:16 <dohtem> lol
Jun 08 02:49:23 <Judas-C> now it's not lol
Jun 08 02:49:27 <Judas-C> jk
Jun 08 02:50:50 * haeffb not very good at graphics - spent all evening making that logo
Jun 08 02:51:06 <dohtem> halfhalo: any apps in the pipeline?
Jun 08 02:51:22 <Loudergood> is that why you were yelling at gimp?
Jun 08 02:52:26 <haeffb> haha...f'in gimp
Jun 08 02:53:03 <haeffb> I'm learning, though
Jun 08 02:53:25 <dohtem> gimp is uselesss. anyone that claims otherwise is suffering from mental retardation
Jun 08 02:54:39 <Loudergood> I find inkscape a little more useful for drawing things
Jun 08 02:54:51 <Loudergood> not that I have the slightest bit of artistic talent
Jun 08 02:57:31 <dohtem> Paint.NET on windows is good
Jun 08 02:58:56 * Nuttybunny suffers from mental retardation
Jun 08 02:59:05 <Nuttybunny> that may explain why my app is taking so long ;)
Jun 08 02:59:56 <haeffb> Paint.NET on ubuntu is worse than useless
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