**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jun 08 02:59:56 2011
Jun 08 03:00:16 <haeffb> and I hate to dual-boot back just to run Paint.NET...even though I really liked it.
Jun 08 03:00:17 <Nuttybunny> gimp on ubuntu is quite good
Jun 08 03:00:39 <Nuttybunny> haeffb: wine? crossover?
Jun 08 03:01:02 <haeffb> ubuntu let's me put gimp into it's own workspace, so it's almost like it's all in one window
Jun 08 03:01:44 <Nuttybunny> there was some modification for gimp that let you use photoshop style, everything in a window
Jun 08 03:07:00 * haeffb installing inkscape
Jun 08 03:07:27 <haeffb> now that I've already use the gimp screwdriver to hammer in that nail...
Jun 08 03:17:23 <ryanwatkins> Inspect Element in Chrome used to draw a nice highlight box - now its gone.  What the !@# happened?
Jun 08 03:17:41 <ryanwatkins> v12 broke stuff?
Jun 08 03:18:36 <th3vo1d> lol chrome
Jun 08 03:19:42 * Nuttybunny uses Chromium
Jun 08 03:20:41 * halfhalo hearts chrome 
Jun 08 03:21:49 <th3vo1d> i just cant bring myself to use software provided by the worlds largest aggregator of personal data
Jun 08 03:22:16 <halfhalo> It's fast openish, and has a v8
Jun 08 03:22:24 <th3vo1d> lol
Jun 08 03:22:38 <ryanwatkins> so .. you use one by a now dead company?
Jun 08 03:22:42 <th3vo1d> opera is plenty fast for me
Jun 08 03:22:46 <ryanwatkins> ha
Jun 08 03:23:05 <th3vo1d> you mean netscape?
Jun 08 03:23:18 <th3vo1d> mozilla is netscape :P
Jun 08 03:23:35 <halfhalo> Your Netscape
Jun 08 03:23:40 <Nuttybunny> I *only* use Chrome for enyo dev. For everyday use I use the Pre webkit browser, and ocassionaly Firefox on my laptop ;)
Jun 08 03:23:54 * halfhalo busts out trident engine
Jun 08 03:24:27 <th3vo1d> woo trident graphics
Jun 08 03:24:37 <Nuttybunny> Everybody else uses a derivative of the mosaic browser
Jun 08 03:24:43 <th3vo1d> reminds me of my pentium 166
Jun 08 03:24:47 <Nuttybunny> which is................ ??
Jun 08 03:25:06 <ryanwatkins> nobody uses a derivitave of the mosaic browser
Jun 08 03:25:06 <halfhalo> Trident engine==ie
Jun 08 03:25:31 <ryanwatkins> trident is long since rewrite of mosaic licensed code, and all the others were implemeted from scratch.
Jun 08 03:25:37 <Nuttybunny> ie "contains portions of the ncsa mosaic broeser"
Jun 08 03:25:45 <ryanwatkins> ya, maybe back in 1994.
Jun 08 03:25:45 <Nuttybunny> or contained?
Jun 08 03:26:47 <halfhalo> Ie9 is good
Jun 08 03:26:53 <halfhalo> Shockingly good
Jun 08 03:27:27 <Nuttybunny> I stopped caring about ie since ... since... since Netscape 6, really
Jun 08 03:27:41 <th3vo1d> lol
Jun 08 03:28:11 <Nuttybunny> I developed for Netscape/Mozilla/Firefox since '2000 and only plugged a few holes here and there to help ie6 rendering
Jun 08 03:28:42 <Nuttybunny> Anyone quite versed in enyo?
Jun 08 03:29:06 <th3vo1d> http://images.4chan.org/g/src/1307500010960.jpg lololol
Jun 08 03:29:18 <ryanwatkins> fairly versed, yes
Jun 08 03:29:37 * ryanwatkins wrote websites before Netscape existed.
Jun 08 03:30:55 <th3vo1d> what they fail to mention is, lion is only offered as an in place upgrade from whatever the current osx is
Jun 08 03:31:26 <Nuttybunny> ryanwatkins:  hehehe... before the dreaded tables, frames and iframes ;)
Jun 08 03:31:43 <ryanwatkins> before you could center text.
Jun 08 03:32:15 <th3vo1d> i remember the days of prodigy, but i was quite young then
Jun 08 03:32:17 <Nuttybunny> OMG... I just remember.... the <blink> tag!  noooooooO!!!  do not want!!!!!!!! :)
Jun 08 03:32:30 <ryanwatkins> apple is happy to drive software prices down as far as possible, as they make their money on the hardware and media.
Jun 08 03:32:58 <ryanwatkins> Apple -> "$3 apps?  Sure, we love it."
Jun 08 03:33:01 <th3vo1d> except they arent actually driving it down
Jun 08 03:33:10 <ryanwatkins> ha
Jun 08 03:33:35 <ryanwatkins> people today saying "gee, dont know if that app is really worth a full $5" and your telling me they havent driven down software prices?
Jun 08 03:33:57 <th3vo1d> i would say a closer comparison is rtm windows 7 vs 7 sp1 with live essentials
Jun 08 03:34:26 <ryanwatkins> msft is opposite of apple - their in the software business.  they'd rather drive the margin on hardware to zero.
Jun 08 03:35:00 <th3vo1d> not talking mobile software. osx lion isnt on the iphone
Jun 08 03:35:02 <ryanwatkins> which is why, say apple wants to sell a cheap OS and MSFT has a more expensive one.
Jun 08 03:35:30 <ryanwatkins> Apple is making PC software cheaper - the whole appstore model is also a lower price point in general.
Jun 08 03:36:09 <Nuttybunny> well, gottago, ryanwatkins you didn't answer my pm ;)  bbl
Jun 08 03:36:36 <th3vo1d> and millions of starving devs cry themselves to sleep because of it
Jun 08 03:36:37 * ryanwatkins cant seem to figure out this old fangled command line irc client.
Jun 08 03:37:46 <Nuttybunny> hehehe
Jun 08 03:37:53 <th3vo1d> (no not really, obviously taking it to extremes, but it is less profitable for devs in general)
Jun 08 03:38:09 <Nuttybunny> ryanwatkins:  /msg NuttyBunny "No, you can't do that, stop trying and move on"
Jun 08 03:49:40 <Nuttybunny> bbl people, thanks ryanwatkins !
Jun 08 03:52:29 <dpivs> hello friends
Jun 08 03:53:37 <haeffb> hello dpivs
Jun 08 03:53:53 <dpivs> hi haeffb, how's everyone been?
Jun 08 03:56:01 <haeffb> most of them good. I'm still kind of a jerk.
Jun 08 03:56:59 <dpivs> awesome so nothing's changed!  haha
Jun 08 04:00:23 * oil tries to imagine a wold where haeffb isn't a jerk
Jun 08 04:00:34 <oil> my imagination isn't that good though
Jun 08 04:00:53 <haeffb> jerk.
Jun 08 04:00:54 <oil> :)
Jun 08 04:01:33 <dohtem> http://forums.precentral.net/general-webos-chat/284083-hp-shutting-down-open-app-feeds-front-page-precentral-2.html#post2985183 -- Kerris responds
Jun 08 04:02:58 <rwhitby> I recommended a proactive stance.  Looks like a reactive stance was chosen.
Jun 08 04:03:42 <oil> "None of the stores do that, by the way" :(
Jun 08 04:24:09 <RagingMind> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA770wpLX-Q
Jun 08 04:24:11 <RagingMind> at 4:15
Jun 08 04:24:53 <RagingMind> they're showing off the touchpad, a pre3 and the "touch to share" stuff
Jun 08 04:26:26 <RagingMind> my mind is a little blown by seeing this mythical thing that I've been reading about for so long just show up in pop culture
Jun 08 04:27:42 <dohtem> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA770wpLX-Q#t=04m15s
Jun 08 04:27:48 <dohtem> noob :)
Jun 08 04:29:07 <ryanwatkins> argh, so chrome inspect element overlay *does* work, but not when launched with command line switches.  lame.
Jun 08 04:29:54 <RagingMind> the touch to share is right at 4:20
Jun 08 04:33:38 <dpivs> :)
Jun 08 04:58:51 <SimpsonUS> already any signs of touchpads available ?
Jun 08 05:00:21 <SineOt> I guess? Stores have had some like early banner stuff go up?
Jun 08 05:02:13 <ka6sox-home> early
Jun 08 05:02:21 <ka6sox-home> who knows.
Jun 08 05:10:17 <LoneStar99> was the touchpad released today?
Jun 08 05:11:02 <rwhitby> LoneStar99: there's an app in the web feed which allows you to pre-order one.
Jun 08 05:11:18 <LoneStar99> rwhitby: is it for real?
Jun 08 05:11:39 <rwhitby> can't tell - can't bring up the web feed in Preware
Jun 08 05:12:04 <LoneStar99> let me try to find it
Jun 08 05:17:55 <oil> lol @ pre/touchpad dr dre video
Jun 08 05:18:10 <oil> i never noticed the gatorade commercial near the end
Jun 08 05:22:00 <dwc-> http://www.dkszone.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Mac_OS_X_Lion_developer_preview.png
Jun 08 05:22:03 <dwc-> calendaring for blind people
Jun 08 05:22:12 <dwc-> they can't read it anyways
Jun 08 05:22:19 <dwc-> but neither can anyone else!
Jun 08 05:22:40 <SineOt> why it so tiny
Jun 08 05:23:46 <LoneStar99> an eminem video has the touchpad in it
Jun 08 05:23:53 <dwc-> why's it not in a color scheme that's easier to read, like the reminders app
Jun 08 05:23:55 <dwc-> http://images.apple.com/ios/ios5/images/features_reminders_listviews.png
Jun 08 05:24:34 <oil> "order cool ergo chair"
Jun 08 05:24:44 <dwc-> (and why do webos and ios think they should be two separate apps)
Jun 08 05:24:54 <SineOt> well it's also like, based off the iOS 4 calendar
Jun 08 05:25:08 <SineOt> I'm sure it'll get tweaked now that iOS5 is kind of public
Jun 08 06:31:22 <hotdp> smukt når hele emailens indhold er i titlen :s
Jun 08 06:33:37 <LoneStar99> hotdp: ??
Jun 08 06:33:41 <hotdp> woops
Jun 08 06:33:44 <hotdp> wrong window
Jun 08 06:33:55 <LoneStar99> email something with a title?
Jun 08 06:34:04 <hotdp> yer
Jun 08 06:34:14 <hotdp> there is a customer who have wrote the email content in the title :s
Jun 08 06:34:39 <LoneStar99> right on
Jun 08 06:34:49 <hotdp> i hate it
Jun 08 06:35:17 <LoneStar99> he wrote the subject in the title? lol
Jun 08 07:32:40 <Judas-C> hi everyone
Jun 08 07:35:36 <dwc-> hi
Jun 08 07:35:47 <Judas-C> what's new
Jun 08 07:36:07 <dwc-> not sure
Jun 08 07:36:43 <Judas-C> wish I could install 2.1
Jun 08 07:37:27 <dwc-> why can't you?
Jun 08 07:37:45 <Judas-C> no computer
Jun 08 07:41:10 <dwc-> what is this, the post-pc era?
Jun 08 07:41:49 <dwc-> you can get a pc cheaper than you can get a palm phone
Jun 08 07:42:16 <Judas-C> yeah but I got the palm phone when I had money.
Jun 08 07:43:13 <Judas-C> had to sell the pcs. harder to sell a dead end verizon phone
Jun 08 07:46:20 <dwc-> maybe you and this guy can get together
Jun 08 07:46:22 <dwc-> http://forums.precentral.net/general-webos-chat/247423-webos-user-group.html
Jun 08 07:49:01 <Judas-C> yeah maybe I should
Jun 08 07:50:01 <Judas-C> wish oil was around try to talk him into doing a flat dark theme
Jun 08 07:50:13 <oil> i plan to
Jun 08 07:51:16 <Judas-C> I like dark themes  white is too bright even when I have it on low brightness
Jun 08 07:51:22 <Judas-C> coool oil
Jun 08 07:51:32 <Judas-C> kudos many times on wirc
Jun 08 07:51:38 <oil> thanks
Jun 08 07:58:33 <Judas-C> oil are there any difference in the testing and released versions they seem to be updated at the same time now
Jun 08 07:59:05 <oil> i think testing is old
Jun 08 08:00:29 <Judas-C> they both have the same ver #
Jun 08 08:00:43 <dwc-> the "testing" one is that .catalog one that needs to go away
Jun 08 08:00:47 <oil> no, that one is going away
Jun 08 08:01:35 <Judas-C> so you are just going to keeep the release one and not have a testing one
Jun 08 08:01:59 <oil> there is actually 3
Jun 08 08:02:08 <oil> main feed, testing, and testing for catalog
Jun 08 08:02:20 <oil> one of those is going away
Jun 08 08:02:37 <Judas-C> private beta. testing and release
Jun 08 08:04:00 <dwc-> that is a rather large shopping bag
Jun 08 08:04:02 <dwc-> https://developer.palm.com/webChannel/images/App-Catalog-512.png
Jun 08 08:05:30 <Judas-C> and empty
Jun 08 09:46:08 <nHarzilei> hi
Jun 08 09:46:46 <nHarzilei> does anyone know whats the lowest possible value for machine ram in the sdk emulator?
Jun 08 09:48:25 <nHarzilei> i tried with 96M, but it was stuck in the (graphical) boot screen. i looked at the statistics after half an hour and it mostly did reads from the hd image (3.3G), some writes (16M), 300k from the iso and ~300k network traffic
Jun 08 09:51:01 <hotdp> May i ask why?
Jun 08 09:55:49 <nHarzilei> to have more free ram on the host machine
Jun 08 10:00:54 <nHarzilei> i would not have problems with lack of ram on the uni machines but i don't have privileges to install the vbox kernel module
Jun 08 13:05:34 <LoneStar99> morning peeps
Jun 08 13:07:25 <hotdp> mornings!
Jun 08 13:07:36 <Loudergood> good morning
Jun 08 13:12:34 <LoneStar99> mornings
Jun 08 13:33:21 <LoneStar99> hotdp: did you get that email situation squared away?
Jun 08 13:41:24 <hotdp> haha
Jun 08 13:41:30 <hotdp> there where no situation
Jun 08 13:41:35 <hotdp> it just pisses me off
Jun 08 13:41:43 <hotdp> title is for title not content!
Jun 08 13:47:02 <LoneStar99> hotdp, lol, i have received a few of those in my time: title --> "Hey Diego Need you to change the color to the index page" type messages....
Jun 08 14:42:40 <hotdp> bbl
Jun 08 15:23:24 <sugardave> haeffb_pre: woo!
Jun 08 15:24:05 <haeffb_pre> now have to get thru the day...
Jun 08 15:25:08 <sugardave> heh
Jun 08 15:25:51 <haeffb_pre> http://modot.org/livestream
Jun 08 15:28:13 <sugardave> haeffb_pre: I'm not privileged enough for it to find that page
Jun 08 15:28:42 <haeffb_pre> probably wrong link
Jun 08 15:30:12 <NuttyBunny> sugardave: Would you help me in the afternoon with some testing on your shiny new device? :)
Jun 08 15:30:52 <NuttyBunny> I have everything figured out right now, it's just coding time, a few tweaks here and there and it should be ready :D
Jun 08 15:30:54 <dawm> tell him no
Jun 08 15:30:54 <sugardave> NuttyBunny: I don't think I'm going to be able to....have a few meetings to attend and then some code to hack on...maybe tonight/tomorrow?
Jun 08 15:31:29 <NuttyBunny> sugardave: Ok, tonight sounds fine to me, thanks :)
Jun 08 15:34:17 <LoneStar99> sugardave: you back in TX?
Jun 08 15:36:32 <LoneStar99> wondering if the mass grave vy houston was a hoax...
Jun 08 15:38:27 <LoneStar99> vy/by
Jun 08 15:38:51 <ka6sox-home> I'll ask my Sugarland friend.
Jun 08 16:26:17 <LoneStar99> right on
Jun 08 16:26:47 <LoneStar99> fixed a bug in one of my apps after almost a month... oops...
Jun 08 16:33:05 <jaf0> hey sugardave?
Jun 08 16:51:09 <jaf0> adora: any chance of meeting you and or touring the Palm/HP facilities next week? :)
Jun 08 16:55:33 <NuttyBunny> I see this game and I think of Adora and "the geeks": http://www.andkon.com/arcade/sport/homeruninberzerkland/homeruninberzerkland.swf
Jun 08 17:01:34 <LoneStar99> NuttyBunny: had to close the link, if not no coding would be done...
Jun 08 17:02:51 <NuttyBunny> LOL... yeah, me too... my friends in facebook are evil.. they just won't let me work!
Jun 08 17:03:26 <LoneStar99> lol
Jun 08 17:09:36 * NuttyBunny closes Burrito Bison as well
Jun 08 17:14:36 <cwayne> NuttyBunny: dont forget kitten cannon
Jun 08 17:30:16 * NuttyBunny searches for kitten cannon
Jun 08 17:30:56 <NuttyBunny> mmm... and Adora disconnected after that comment... weird ;)
Jun 08 17:33:40 <NuttyBunny> Nah, I prefer the others ;)
Jun 08 17:50:38 <maik> has there been any mention of what HP's special something incentive is for Pre- owners to upgrade?
Jun 08 17:50:53 <summatusmentis> I haven't heard anything
Jun 08 17:55:07 <maik> :/
Jun 08 17:55:12 <maik> getting irritated at my Pre :/
Jun 08 17:55:23 <maik> grr face is grr
Jun 08 18:00:26 <twbbas> I hope they give us either a free Pre 3 or a heavily... HEAVILY discounted one
Jun 08 18:00:29 <NuttyBunny> no, nothing at all... (here I go again)... Imagine Mexico users, stuck with Telcel at webOS 1.4.0, and Telcel still giving the phones away with a 1 year contract :P
Jun 08 18:00:42 <NuttyBunny> no paid apps
Jun 08 18:04:02 <summatusmentis> maik: I'm assuming they want to get devices on the market before they sort that stuff out
Jun 08 18:05:02 <maik> i'm assuming it's going to be "here's $50 off"
Jun 08 18:05:07 <maik> to which i'll probably say "fuck you"
Jun 08 18:05:15 <maik> and "ooh, a shiny new android phone"
Jun 08 18:05:45 <summatusmentis> really? you won't even stick to the platform? I'm really excited about the pre3
Jun 08 18:06:06 <twbbas> Also, has anyone sent in an enyo app to get a free touchpad?
Jun 08 18:06:24 <summatusmentis> I'd have to have written an enyo app first
Jun 08 18:06:46 <twbbas> Just curious if anyone's has received it yet
Jun 08 18:07:17 <maik> summatusmentis: webOS isn't doing anything spectacular for me anymore
Jun 08 18:07:22 <maik> who knows, really.  i keep going back and forth
Jun 08 18:07:44 <summatusmentis> maik: I can understand that, but at least personally, android's interface is just too clunky
Jun 08 18:08:16 <summatusmentis> webos gives me exactly what I want in terms of a nice interface/usability, but still hackable as much or as little as I want
Jun 08 18:08:33 <summatusmentis> it just needs better app backing
Jun 08 18:09:18 <summatusmentis> and it's looking like that's gonna change with 3.x and the TouchPad
Jun 08 18:17:06 <NuttyBunny> summatusmentis: have you started with enyo yet?
Jun 08 18:17:47 <summatusmentis> no, I've been meaning to figure out how to get access to it, I was working on a mojo app, but stopped because school stuff got in the way
Jun 08 18:17:53 <summatusmentis> at this point, I might as well just start over in enyo
Jun 08 18:19:27 <NuttyBunny> just ask for access
Jun 08 18:20:06 <summatusmentis> well, right, but then I'd have to start working on it :)
Jun 08 18:21:52 <NuttyBunny> not necessarily, play with it, and when you look how easy it is, you'll start working on your app, you'll feel motivated just to do it ;)
Jun 08 18:22:33 <summatusmentis> I didn't feel like I had the requisite web dev knowledge when I started with mojo
Jun 08 18:22:51 <summatusmentis> so I felt like I was flailing around
Jun 08 18:27:56 <twbbas> Same here, summatusmentis
Jun 08 18:28:16 <summatusmentis> so trying enyo scares me
Jun 08 18:28:17 <twbbas> I just started enyo this week and it's pretty confusing at first
Jun 08 18:28:17 <summatusmentis> :)
Jun 08 18:28:30 <twbbas> I'm hoping there will be a point where it'll start to make since, just like mojo
Jun 08 18:28:36 <twbbas> sense*
Jun 08 18:28:47 <summatusmentis> I don't think I used mojo enough to hit that point
Jun 08 18:28:49 <twbbas> My mind is enyo-ed out :D
Jun 08 18:28:59 <twbbas> What apps have you made?
Jun 08 18:29:07 <summatusmentis> nothing
Jun 08 18:29:16 <twbbas> ah
Jun 08 18:29:18 <summatusmentis> I've never completed one
Jun 08 18:29:34 <summatusmentis> school/grad apps/homework got in the way
Jun 08 18:29:43 <twbbas> understandable
Jun 08 18:30:34 <summatusmentis> I also think the web service I'm working on writing a client for changed their api rules
Jun 08 18:30:41 <summatusmentis> and it's unclear to me as to how
Jun 08 18:30:49 <cwayne> summatusmentis: i hear ya
Jun 08 18:34:15 <Loudergood> yeah, you're not alone on that
Jun 08 18:34:52 <summatusmentis> and further, it seems like they might start wanting payment for their cloud service
Jun 08 18:35:02 <summatusmentis> which is not something I'll want to continue doing...
Jun 08 18:39:06 <TimBemo> Is db8 the preferred Palm method of data storage over Javascript openDatabase ?
Jun 08 18:40:09 <summatusmentis> db8 gets backed up to HPs servers, iirc
Jun 08 18:40:44 <TimBemo> hm, that does seem like a good advantage -- and I know you can let other apps share db8 stores
Jun 08 18:40:55 <TimBemo> I can't for the life of me get indexes to work properly on my db8 stores
Jun 08 19:18:14 <haeffb_pre> sugardave: ping
Jun 08 19:24:29 <MetaView> hi
Jun 08 19:32:48 <rwhitby> morning
Jun 08 19:42:25 <TimBemo> can anyone tell me what this db8 error means? "db: quota exceeded"
Jun 08 19:44:27 <dwc-> it means your apps are using up all the space
Jun 08 19:44:46 <dwc-> I think I heard 20mb of total space for all combined
Jun 08 19:47:20 <TimBemo> is there any way to wipe the emulator clean or the db8 stores clean?
Jun 08 19:48:07 <TimBemo> looks like a Full Erase may have worked -- I'll see if the db8 stores start cooperating again
Jun 08 19:48:33 <TimBemo> hm, Full Erase left everything there
Jun 08 19:53:12 <rwhitby> full erase definitely should wipe db8
Jun 08 20:04:32 <TimBemo> hm, I ran a full secure erase and my app is still hanging around
Jun 08 20:05:03 <TimBemo> "Erase Apps & Data" properly removed the apps, but I'm still running into the "db: quota exceeded" error
Jun 08 20:05:21 <TimBemo> which I only get when fetching from db8 -- not inserting into it
Jun 08 20:15:26 <rwhitby> for the emulator, you can delete the virtual machine and the run the Palm Emulator app again to recreate it
Jun 08 20:30:39 <hotdp> anyone who have free tether to work with windows xp ?
Jun 08 20:31:37 <cwayne> lol xp
Jun 08 20:31:48 <hotdp> i know :(
Jun 08 20:31:53 <hotdp> its a jukebox pc :S
Jun 08 20:31:55 <NuttyBunny> usb tether works on sp3 only
Jun 08 20:32:13 <hotdp> i have sp3?
Jun 08 20:33:24 <NuttyBunny> have you installed the usbnet driver?
Jun 08 20:33:57 <hotdp> it wont :S
Jun 08 20:34:03 <hotdp> the .ini file?
Jun 08 20:35:45 <NuttyBunny> yep
Jun 08 20:36:14 <hotdp> "the specific location does not contain information aboutyour hardware"
Jun 08 20:37:35 <hotdp> i don't get it...
Jun 08 20:38:11 <NuttyBunny> http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/USBnet_Setup  ?
Jun 08 20:38:32 <hotdp> usbnet-pre windows driver(32 bit)
Jun 08 20:38:34 <hotdp> jup :S
Jun 08 20:39:43 <hotdp> :(
Jun 08 20:39:47 <hotdp> i don't understand it..
Jun 08 20:39:47 <NuttyBunny> but, did you follow the link that explains you step by step how to install it? 	http://docwiki.gumstix.org/index.php/Windows_XP_usbnet    it's step 3
Jun 08 20:39:56 <hotdp> yer
Jun 08 20:40:18 <hotdp> step 9 is never there
Jun 08 20:40:34 <hotdp> after 8 its problems
Jun 08 20:41:18 * haeffb_pre looking for a new job.
Jun 08 20:41:33 <NuttyBunny> hotdp, Weird, I did it one a long time ago and it worked :(
Jun 08 20:41:49 <hotdp> haeffb_pre: :S what happend?
Jun 08 20:42:00 <hotdp> NuttyBunny: you have no idea about what i might miss?
Jun 08 20:42:51 <NuttyBunny> hotdp: You pass step 5, right? then use "have disk" and select the file??
Jun 08 20:42:52 <haeffb_pre> the state agency I work for is reorganizing & the office I work in is being closed
Jun 08 20:43:16 <NuttyBunny> haeffb_pre: Ask HP/Palm ;)
Jun 08 20:44:16 <haeffb_pre> good idea
Jun 08 20:44:20 <NuttyBunny> hotdp: you did NOT made the changes that are on step 7, did you?
Jun 08 20:44:38 <hotdp> no i did not
Jun 08 20:44:44 <dawm> chrome12
Jun 08 20:44:45 <dawm> ..
Jun 08 20:44:52 <hotdp> haeffb_pre: sorry to hear :(
Jun 08 20:44:57 <hotdp> when will it end?
Jun 08 20:45:38 <dohtem> dawm: you try the 3d css yet?
Jun 08 20:45:46 <dawm> no
Jun 08 20:45:50 <dawm> just updsted
Jun 08 20:45:53 <cwayne> anyone do anything with subsonic and webos?
Jun 08 20:46:05 <haeffb_pre> it'll be ok. I will likely just transfer to a diff location. but unknown...when..where...
Jun 08 20:46:33 <hotdp> i see
Jun 08 20:46:35 <dohtem> dawm: http://www.chromeexperiments.com/shaunthesheep
Jun 08 20:47:48 <NuttyBunny> Power Nap.. brb
Jun 08 20:48:29 <oil> lol
Jun 08 20:48:42 <dawm> pretty bneet
Jun 08 20:48:53 <hotdp> WOOOOOOOORK
Jun 08 21:33:16 <LoneStar99> no shaun the goat for me, don't have chrome
Jun 08 21:34:25 <dohtem> shaun's a sheep
Jun 08 21:36:35 <LoneStar99> oops...
Jun 08 21:37:52 <dohtem> ;)
Jun 08 21:55:23 <dohtem> http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/08/hp-touchpad-to-be-available-june-22nd-starting-at-500-for-16gb/
Jun 08 21:57:28 <sugardave> HAIR ON FIRE
Jun 08 21:58:00 <halfhalo> YAY
Jun 08 21:58:04 <halfhalo> wait, what?
Jun 08 22:00:34 <sugardave> I'm busy busy busy today...about to have ANOTHER meeting
Jun 08 22:03:09 <NappyBunny> Hair On Fire sounds like a punk group name ;)
Jun 08 22:11:34 <halfhalo> thats what you get sugardave
Jun 08 22:12:37 <NuttyBunny> We call that "juntitis" (junta = meeting)
Jun 08 22:23:59 <NuttyBunny> must... stop... procrastinating....
Jun 08 22:24:26 <sugardave> stop procrastinating tomorrow
Jun 08 22:26:29 <Hendikins> Why put it off? Procrastinate now!
Jun 08 22:29:42 <halfhalo> this bed is comfy
Jun 08 22:36:00 <NuttyBunny> I have to finish it, I skipped work just to finish it..
Jun 08 22:36:11 <NuttyBunny> I feel like a teenager ;)
Jun 08 22:36:40 <NuttyBunny> (I didn't actually skipped work, got permission to do home office)
Jun 08 22:37:04 <oil> lol
Jun 08 22:37:32 <Loudergood> haha
Jun 08 22:37:34 <Loudergood> nice
Jun 08 22:38:26 <haeffb> hard work may pay off tomorrow, but procrastination always pays off now
Jun 08 22:41:39 <Loudergood> the bane of my life
Jun 08 22:46:02 <NuttyBunny> the worst part? I haven't actually done much more than edited some graphics files, I had a wrong idea about "kinds", and I'm fighting with that now.. hehehe
Jun 08 22:46:57 <NuttyBunny> I might as well go PatrickC mode... anyone wants to finish my app? :D
Jun 08 22:48:23 <Loudergood> haven't seen him lately
Jun 08 22:49:21 <oil> got grounded
Jun 08 22:49:45 <oil> lols
Jun 08 22:50:40 <NuttyBunny> hahaha
Jun 08 22:50:46 <NuttyBunny> nah, an email said church camp
Jun 08 22:50:52 <NuttyBunny> good luck with that )
Jun 08 22:50:54 <NuttyBunny> ;)
Jun 08 22:56:36 <sugardave> pizza and wings are imminent, confidence is high
Jun 08 22:56:44 <halfhalo> good man
Jun 08 22:57:20 <Loudergood> that sounds like a good plan
Jun 08 22:57:36 <Loudergood> especially since the gf is working tonight, and she's the one that doesn't like wings
Jun 08 22:57:54 <Loudergood> of course I don't like the pizza from the place that makes the good wings...a conundrum..
Jun 08 23:00:22 <sugardave> hmmm, make two orders :D
Jun 08 23:26:59 <twbbas> We're allowed to talk about Enyo stuff outside of the developer forum as long as the people involved both have access to the early access program, right?
Jun 08 23:27:07 <twbbas> (and it's private)
Jun 08 23:29:12 <Loudergood> who's going to know?
Jun 08 23:32:10 <twbbas> Well, I was just wondering if it was legal according to the NDA stuff
Jun 08 23:34:29 <rwhitby> twbbas: some questions are best left unasked
Jun 08 23:49:53 <chuqui> howdy all.
Jun 08 23:50:02 <sugardave> hey chuqui
Jun 08 23:50:45 <chuqui> hey hey.
Jun 08 23:51:28 <Tibfib_uk> Hey chuqui
Jun 08 23:51:34 <Tibfib_uk> and sugardave
Jun 08 23:51:45 <halfhalo> Moo?
Jun 08 23:52:55 * halfhalo is cold...  Stupid real weather up in sf
Jun 08 23:53:16 * Tibfib_uk is in an airport
Jun 08 23:53:17 <NuttyBunny> hey chuqui!.. did my app crash your Touchpad as did with sugardave's? :D
Jun 08 23:53:58 <chuqui> no, but only because I messed mine up and haven't had time to reflash it and turn on dev move to load it yet. for some reason, I've been a bit busy last couple of days. can't understand why.
Jun 08 23:54:51 <halfhalo> chuqui: If you let me borrow it I'll do it for you!
Jun 08 23:55:12 <NuttyBunny> LOL  :D   Well, you might as well wait a couple of more days, I should be done by friday :)
Jun 08 23:57:13 <chuqui> halfhalo: but I need it back. Remember, last time I offered one to loan for a couple of days I lost it for two months. I kinda like having one.
Jun 08 23:57:40 <halfhalo> I'll give it back! I pwomise!
Jun 09 00:00:00 <sugardave> lies
Jun 09 00:00:43 <NuttyBunny> trust no one
Jun 09 00:00:48 <halfhalo> Only on the weekend
Jun 09 00:01:03 <NuttyBunny> I want the one that the astronaut was using, what's the ETA on that? :D
Jun 09 00:02:18 <NuttyBunny> I'm going crazy.... pressing home to close and reload the CHROME tab :P
Jun 09 00:02:57 <halfhalo> Lol
Jun 09 00:03:26 <NuttyBunny> and since the netbook is a bit slow I even pressed it twice :S
Jun 09 00:04:02 <chuqui> halfhalo:  nobody borrows my precious! oh, my precious!
Jun 09 00:04:30 <sugardave> I had to gouge out the eyes of no less than 15 people while I was traveling back home
Jun 09 00:05:52 <NuttyBunny> sugardave: You really should not be using it in public... something bad could happen ;)
Jun 09 00:06:11 * NuttyBunny activates the spyware he installed in sugardave's TP with his app ...
Jun 09 00:07:26 <halfhalo> Lulz
Jun 09 00:09:02 <haeffb> hi chuqui!
Jun 09 00:10:52 * haeffb is in a surprisingly good mood today, considering that my job no longer exists.
Jun 09 00:11:06 <haeffb> I did get three Touchstones in the mail from Verizon.
Jun 09 00:11:29 <dawm> i got 2
Jun 09 00:11:41 <DocLee> Laid off?
Jun 09 00:11:41 <NuttyBunny> Ah! Touchstones! Are v1 compatible with Pre3 & Veer?
Jun 09 00:11:46 <summatusmentis> I should get at least one, but I don't have the cash
Jun 09 00:11:49 <dawm> weird thing is.. i was expecting a package yesterday from fedex.. waited all day it didnt show up until 11PM!!!
Jun 09 00:11:57 <NuttyBunny> summatusmentis: credit card ;)
Jun 09 00:11:58 <summatusmentis> NuttyBunny: they're compatible, they won't have any of the new stuff though
Jun 09 00:12:04 <summatusmentis> NuttyBunny: don't have one :)
Jun 09 00:12:07 <haeffb> DocLee: reorganization, closing the District office I work in.
Jun 09 00:12:07 <dawm> today fedex came by around 1pm, then i saw another truck drive by around 3, and another around 4..
Jun 09 00:12:14 <Loudergood> dawm: that's harsh, poor fedex guy
Jun 09 00:12:20 <DocLee> haeffb, so...effectively laid off?
Jun 09 00:12:37 <haeffb> most likely will transfer to another location
Jun 09 00:12:55 <DocLee> That's not bad then
Jun 09 00:12:56 <haeffb> but all 6000 employees have to "compete" for 5100 jobs
Jun 09 00:13:03 <DocLee> New scenery
Jun 09 00:13:08 <chuqui> haeffb: hey howdy
Jun 09 00:13:22 <DocLee> Chuq?
Jun 09 00:13:35 <haeffb> chuqui: got any jobs?
Jun 09 00:13:38 <chuqui> DocLee:  hey
Jun 09 00:13:58 <haeffb> I could even get ArthurThornton coffed to give to you...
Jun 09 00:14:14 <haeffb> just don't give me a job that requires spelling coffee
Jun 09 00:14:15 <chuqui> haeffb: turns out arthur is lousy at coffee. I'm having him write sample code instead.
Jun 09 00:14:46 <NuttyBunny> I could use some "sample" code for my app ;)
Jun 09 00:15:01 <Tibfib_uk> haeffb: aww, not gonna be my neighbor anymore?
Jun 09 00:15:39 <haeffb> still in MO, as far as I know. Unless chuqui needs a coffee getter
Jun 09 00:15:48 <Tibfib_uk> that's good
Jun 09 00:15:49 <haeffb> or HP needs a road built.
Jun 09 00:15:59 <haeffb> or a bridge replaced
Jun 09 00:16:10 <Tibfib_uk> haeffb: just hook up with a terrorist group
Jun 09 00:16:27 <haeffb> exciting job, but short life expectancy
Jun 09 00:41:18 <summatusmentis> cwayne: you around?
Jun 09 00:44:35 <dawm> this is interesting
Jun 09 00:44:36 <dawm> http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/08/exclusive-dells-prototype-7-inch-tablet-touts-slide-out-split/?ref=nf
Jun 09 00:44:47 <dawm> they should really use that middle section for something..
Jun 09 00:45:12 <dohtem> dawm: the logo is too important
Jun 09 00:50:39 <cwayne> summatusmentis: yar
Jun 09 00:55:33 <summatusmentis> cwayne: pm?
Jun 09 00:57:53 <dawm> where the hell did my internet go..
Jun 09 00:58:04 <halfhalo> I ate it.
Jun 09 00:58:16 <Tibfib_uk> hmmm
Jun 09 00:58:21 <Tibfib_uk> I wonder if I'm going to sleep tonight
Jun 09 00:58:47 <Tibfib_uk> airport floors = not comfortable
Jun 09 00:59:46 <dawm> did you bring a back pack?
Jun 09 01:00:06 <dohtem> http://www.bgr.com/2011/06/08/apples-ios-5-notifications-are-great-but-webos-is-still-better/ - heh
Jun 09 01:00:23 <dawm> adora tweeted those exact words
Jun 09 01:00:59 <dawm> oh nvm
Jun 09 01:01:07 <dawm> she retweeted the article and badkitty didnt tell me
Jun 09 01:01:10 <dawm> smh
Jun 09 01:01:44 <dohtem> just read it
Jun 09 01:02:43 <dcousineau> Tibfib_uk:  the hell you doin in an airport
Jun 09 01:02:56 <cwayne> summatusmentis: sure 1 sec
Jun 09 01:03:40 <Tibfib_uk> dcousineau: my flight is in the morning, and there's no way I could get here by then in the morning
Jun 09 01:03:49 <dcousineau> ah where you flyin
Jun 09 01:06:34 <Tibfib_uk> in london
Jun 09 01:06:37 <Tibfib_uk> flying to philly
Jun 09 01:06:40 <Tibfib_uk> then kc
Jun 09 01:07:32 <dcousineau> sweet
Jun 09 01:07:40 <dcousineau> yeah sitting here in Sunnyvale
Jun 09 01:07:47 <dcousineau> bored
Jun 09 01:07:49 <dcousineau> :P
Jun 09 01:10:30 <halfhalo> Same
Jun 09 01:11:42 <dcousineau> awesome
Jun 09 01:11:53 <dcousineau> anyone else?
Jun 09 01:12:01 <dcousineau> maybe we can do a rowdy dinner or someshit
Jun 09 01:12:44 <dcousineau> I pinged @adora at @funkatron's suggestion but no word there
Jun 09 01:13:33 <halfhalo> Nah, already have plans tonight
Jun 09 01:13:48 <dcousineau> kk
Jun 09 01:28:35 <dohtem> are you guys there for the workshop?
Jun 09 01:31:05 <dcousineau> I am at least
Jun 09 01:52:24 <JenP> hi all!
Jun 09 01:52:48 <RagingMind> Hello.  I love Cabaret
Jun 09 01:53:41 <RagingMind> sorry... just watched it, so I felt the need to say it
Jun 09 01:53:51 <JenP> LOL
Jun 09 01:55:35 <rwhitby> hey JenP
Jun 09 01:55:40 <JenP> rod!
Jun 09 01:55:42 <JenP> hiya
Jun 09 01:57:02 <JenP> So does anyone know if the komodo add on was updated to the latest sdk? Or are we rockin Eclipse only?
Jun 09 02:05:19 <haeffb> JenP!
Jun 09 02:05:27 <JenP> haeffb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jun 09 02:05:36 <JenP> giggles. hey stranger
Jun 09 02:06:18 <haeffb> 'sup lady?
Jun 09 02:07:05 <sugardave> hi JenP
Jun 09 02:07:22 <JenP> hi sugardave!
Jun 09 02:10:06 <dohtem> http://i.imgur.com/wD3cT.jpg - awesome mousepad
Jun 09 02:11:22 <Loudergood> lol
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