**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jul 01 02:59:57 2011 Jul 01 03:00:12 I would never assume an infinitely scrolling virtual list with drag and drop would be easy Jul 01 03:00:13 i'm looking at and starting to think about and RSS reader app. Jul 01 03:00:26 you guys were totally right when you said that webos doesn't have one Jul 01 03:00:28 I believe that is the enyo tutorial Jul 01 03:00:42 it was certainly mojo tut Jul 01 03:00:45 someone make a GOOD rss app Jul 01 03:00:45 and in the book Jul 01 03:00:54 I have yet to find a UI I like for bigger screens Jul 01 03:00:55 Matt does palm have enyo books yet Jul 01 03:00:55 we're showing off the new spaz in the live Q&A videocast. Jul 01 03:00:57 pretty sure it is the enyo tutorial, will be in the docs/sdk tomorrow Jul 01 03:00:59 i'm looking at it Tib Jul 01 03:01:00 no books, no Jul 01 03:01:01 OMFG Jul 01 03:01:09 SPAZ IS FAMOUS Jul 01 03:01:16 famous?!?!? Jul 01 03:01:17 ugh I need a case of the new ones to replace the case of the old ones Jul 01 03:01:23 yes, HE is famous Jul 01 03:01:28 mitch allen told me I would have to rewrite his webos book, because he would never write a book again, and I said no Jul 01 03:01:35 hah Jul 01 03:01:38 actually I think we should make a twitter client the tutorial app Jul 01 03:01:44 with oAuth Jul 01 03:01:47 yeah, that'd be fun Jul 01 03:01:54 twitter loves more client apps Jul 01 03:01:55 Hey, there's an Enyo article in Smart Developer Magazine. Jul 01 03:02:37 Drop on by Ed: http://www.webosroundup.com/webosradio-live/ Jul 01 03:02:56 sooo guys tell me what's your favorite rss reader app on a different platform? i'd like to see some examples so i can start sleeping on this Jul 01 03:03:23 fxspec06: Reeder Jul 01 03:03:24 wut up gentlemen Jul 01 03:03:25 and ladies Jul 01 03:03:28 mattsmcnulty: no tasks app I guess means Palm is gone... Jul 01 03:03:42 Palm === pim apps Jul 01 03:03:43 so, netflix will not work via a chroot on the TP. In other news, ares, eclipse, and gedit do. Jul 01 03:03:57 hey, we added calendar invites and no one friggin even saw it in the reviews Jul 01 03:04:05 that was like the most requested feature ever Jul 01 03:04:11 calendar invites are nice Jul 01 03:04:14 calendar is nice. email is really nice Jul 01 03:04:18 will try tomorrow when UPS blesses me Jul 01 03:04:31 thanks re: email. calendar was another team so fuck that Jul 01 03:04:33 ;-) Jul 01 03:04:44 how the hell do I sign into this damn chat? Jul 01 03:04:47 yeah, screw calendar! Jul 01 03:04:58 funkatron: just type Jul 01 03:05:02 !!!! Jul 01 03:05:09 why does webosroundup think you boot a tablet once a week? Jul 01 03:05:16 other than to clear memory, of course Jul 01 03:05:18 haha Jul 01 03:05:33 Why doesn't the e-mail address remember e-mail addresses you've sent to before? Jul 01 03:05:40 err…. e-mail app Jul 01 03:06:02 because we spent all our time we would have spent making that feature make it boot slow instead Jul 01 03:06:04 why doesn't the browser remember the scroll position on the page when you go back a page in the history Jul 01 03:06:13 mattsmcnulty: Time well spent. Jul 01 03:06:16 lol Jul 01 03:06:22 wow, that reeder app is great. Jul 01 03:06:31 rwhitby: did that break? goddamnit Jul 01 03:06:32 I told people that I would work on boot speed. :) Jul 01 03:06:42 pretty sure there's a GPS in it Jul 01 03:06:44 i'll have to see, i may be able to top that Jul 01 03:06:48 maybe I'm crazy? Jul 01 03:06:57 funkatron: You're only wondering that now? Jul 01 03:07:02 mattsmcnulty: it could be an app thing - I'm seeing it in the PreCentral app webview windows Jul 01 03:07:03 okay, a gvien Jul 01 03:07:15 funkatron: no GPS in TouchPad wifi Jul 01 03:07:18 laaaam Jul 01 03:07:20 e Jul 01 03:07:21 rwhitby: ahhh, that certainly could be. that logic is in the browser app Jul 01 03:07:24 GPS is in 10.1 wifi Jul 01 03:07:29 fxspec06: newsroom Jul 01 03:07:34 no GPS is sad panda Jul 01 03:07:37 no gps in ipad wifi Jul 01 03:07:44 well, I can't get into this damn chat Jul 01 03:07:54 that's because of your damn language Jul 01 03:08:06 funkatron: and the location services don't work in the southern hemisphere, so don't take your touchpad on your australian holiday, else you'll end up somewhere high above the north pole Jul 01 03:08:08 I think android is the big wifi push now Jul 01 03:08:16 err...gps tab Jul 01 03:08:37 mattsmcnulty: be honest: you guys forgot to turn off debug logging, didn't you? Jul 01 03:08:40 still reading webosroundup review, so I can make snarky replies about it Jul 01 03:08:44 oh shit he dropped it Jul 01 03:08:57 OH NOES Jul 01 03:08:57 mattsmcnulty: There are a dozen articles so take your time. Jul 01 03:09:18 tibfib: newsroom forrrrr.. android ? Jul 01 03:09:19 funkatron: we didn't even have logging levels until like the 11th hour, when we reluctantly added them to enyo Jul 01 03:09:26 fxspec06: for webOS.. Jul 01 03:09:29 don't leave #$!@ logs in your js apps. Jul 01 03:09:37 mattsmcnulty: I did notice they came in pretty late Jul 01 03:09:48 we are anti-logging on the enyo team Jul 01 03:10:01 yeah, real men don't need to find bugs Jul 01 03:10:08 find em, then take the logs out Jul 01 03:10:11 BUGS ARE FOR CHUMPS Jul 01 03:10:20 every character has a price in js Jul 01 03:10:21 they're unexpected features, bro Jul 01 03:10:22 and chimps. chimps love bugs Jul 01 03:10:23 Apparently the big dealbreaker is that the spell check won't change dont and wont to don't and won't. :) Jul 01 03:10:32 that's fixed Jul 01 03:10:48 mattsmcnulty: what's the word on when that ota update is coming? Jul 01 03:10:55 do you guys remember how shitty the original iPhone OS was? Jul 01 03:10:56 funkatron! I'm using Spaz :) Jul 01 03:10:59 love how all reviews love maps. that was like a weekend or two on my team Jul 01 03:11:03 or even iOS 2? Jul 01 03:11:04 haah Jul 01 03:11:04 no eta on ota Jul 01 03:11:07 yeah, it was horrible Jul 01 03:11:08 boy was it shitty Jul 01 03:11:09 "summer" Jul 01 03:11:18 tibfib I see. Jul 01 03:11:20 mattsmcnulty: perhaps you could teach the anti-logging to the team which makes LunaSysMgr log to slow power-hungry flash every second that it managed to update the time in the top-bar ? Jul 01 03:11:24 mattsmcnulty: I noticed how many times it changed in the betas :) Jul 01 03:11:37 rwhitby: YES Jul 01 03:11:38 holy crap Jul 01 03:11:39 IOS didnt get good until 3.x, or even 4 I would say Jul 01 03:11:45 before that, it was crap Jul 01 03:12:09 mattsmcnulty: seriously, HP needs to hire an intern to watch /var/log/messages on a production device for a day, and drive every single message to removal or bug report. Jul 01 03:12:13 iOS 3 got way better Jul 01 03:12:17 rwhitby: if sysmgr is really doing that in production builds then yes, I will mention it to them Jul 01 03:12:28 mattsmcnulty: hey, I'll do that! Jul 01 03:12:33 rwhitby: ask halfhalo if he is interested Jul 01 03:12:43 mattsmcnulty: webOS 2.1 is awfully loggy Jul 01 03:12:45 mattsmcnulty: is the debug logging level different on the dev TPs? Jul 01 03:12:49 because man is it loud Jul 01 03:12:53 activitymanager alone is like 1/2 the logs Jul 01 03:12:57 ... Jul 01 03:12:57 I wonder if I'm supposed to talk about that. Jul 01 03:13:00 funkatron: I think so Jul 01 03:13:17 yeah, it's ironical that activity manager's main purpose is to save power, yet it logs to flash so much Jul 01 03:13:24 i noticed how leaving a bunch of logs slows the system, one fo the first things i learned Jul 01 03:13:32 that's not it's main purpose, at least not really Jul 01 03:13:46 so, why the black plastic back instead of the pre2 back? Jul 01 03:13:49 logs only exist to slow things down Jul 01 03:13:50 What's going on in the world of English Dentistry? Jul 01 03:13:52 well, it's the main purpose which makes my point ;) Jul 01 03:13:52 ironical? Is that a word? Jul 01 03:14:07 /me goes back to playing with working document editing setup. Jul 01 03:14:08 haeffb: YES, good question Jul 01 03:14:13 roy-pre101: it's australian Jul 01 03:14:19 matte >>> gloss Jul 01 03:14:20 shockwave?? Jul 01 03:14:24 * PatrickC wonders what the conversation is about.. Jul 01 03:14:25 haeffb: I could not agree more Jul 01 03:14:32 halfhalo was that a fail? Jul 01 03:14:34 unfortunately i do not make the hardware Jul 01 03:14:36 we need to make our apps with Authorware Jul 01 03:14:43 yes... yes it was. Jul 01 03:14:49 we should allow a silverlight plugin Jul 01 03:14:54 Tibfib: glossy for life! Jul 01 03:14:56 * fxspec06 it's about logs, and how HP sucks at removing them therefore everyone pays the price Jul 01 03:14:57 halfhalo: being able to code on the tp would be awesome Jul 01 03:15:03 I htink Ken Kutagari designed the TP Jul 01 03:15:08 Tibfib: I can. Jul 01 03:15:10 OR CHUCK NORRIS Jul 01 03:15:11 he always loved that Darth Vader shit Jul 01 03:15:18 * fxspec06 excuse my spanish Jul 01 03:15:19 halfhalo: I saw your tweets Jul 01 03:15:26 lemme look at em again Jul 01 03:15:28 tibfib: if only ares worked on touchpad Jul 01 03:15:28 in Spaz. Jul 01 03:15:36 http://gim.ie/h5L Jul 01 03:15:36 that'd be AWESOME Jul 01 03:15:37 what's spaz? Jul 01 03:15:43 AresDebugger works well in touchpad Jul 01 03:15:50 er Jul 01 03:15:53 "in TouchPad" Jul 01 03:15:55 mattsmcnulty: halfhalo got it working lol Jul 01 03:15:59 HOW I MAKE PALMPAD APP Jul 01 03:16:06 PatrickC: yeah, I saw that Jul 01 03:16:33 now.. mattsmcnulty, have them make Ares into an Enyo app :) Jul 01 03:16:33 * haeffb needs to order a case, touchstand and keyboard... Jul 01 03:16:43 shockwave games? Jul 01 03:16:45 * PatrickC needs a dev discount Jul 01 03:16:53 funkatron: whoa! he's happy to see the fans! Jul 01 03:16:56 * rwhitby thinks of all the logging as the mid-life speed kicker for the touchpad when they turn it all off ;) Jul 01 03:17:01 protip: shift+space does nothing on a bluetooth keyboard. at all. Jul 01 03:17:16 well 47 mins till go time Jul 01 03:17:28 47min? till what? Jul 01 03:17:45 midnight? does it launch then? Jul 01 03:17:47 July 1 in EDT? Jul 01 03:17:49 lol they sent out the touchpad with a build of webos that logs one million logs per second. no wonder it's slow Jul 01 03:17:58 "they" Jul 01 03:18:03 Yes 7.1 EST Jul 01 03:18:34 http://yfrog.com/hsyjlfp «- pure amazing Jul 01 03:18:50 looks like walmart sold them all out, oh wait thats the acer iconia and asus transformer... oh phew full stack of touch pads Jul 01 03:18:54 ;) Jul 01 03:19:04 haha Jul 01 03:19:29 joking of course, they havent gone on sale yet Jul 01 03:19:32 oy Jul 01 03:19:34 that's OSX on the TP! Jul 01 03:19:43 mattsmcnulty: what apps on the touchpad did your team do? Jul 01 03:19:44 sort of Jul 01 03:19:46 with Ares! Jul 01 03:19:47 email, .. ? Jul 01 03:19:50 sort of it's OS X on the TP Jul 01 03:19:52 ZMG Jul 01 03:20:00 Tibfib: email, browser, maps Jul 01 03:20:04 oh, wheres the one of ares in the pure chroot. Jul 01 03:20:07 email is nice Jul 01 03:20:07 nice nice Jul 01 03:20:12 isn't the maps bing? Jul 01 03:20:16 yes Jul 01 03:20:25 why the switch away from google? Jul 01 03:20:27 the browser is amazing Jul 01 03:20:27 mmm finally good bing maps Jul 01 03:20:31 no comment. Jul 01 03:20:34 fair enough Jul 01 03:20:37 I was playing tonight :) Jul 01 03:20:54 instead of a comment: see maps app on webos < 3 Jul 01 03:21:01 heheh Jul 01 03:21:24 I haven't seen a maps app on 3, 2.x is mostly usable-ish Jul 01 03:21:32 is bing also a default search engine? Jul 01 03:21:33 beyond screenshots, that is Jul 01 03:21:33 no, it's awful Jul 01 03:21:45 microsoft was extremely pleasant to work with on maps Jul 01 03:21:47 Tibfib: works better than gmaps on my pre :) Jul 01 03:21:51 s/pre/centro/ Jul 01 03:21:55 mattsmcnulty: good to hear Jul 01 03:22:04 they want more bing in more places Jul 01 03:22:06 it was a weekend project of ours for a few weeks Jul 01 03:22:40 no whats aweful Jul 01 03:22:46 ? Jul 01 03:22:57 maps on < 3 Jul 01 03:23:07 eek yeah Jul 01 03:23:15 mattsmcnulty: you should have made BFG Maps the default maps :) Jul 01 03:23:19 maps is nice. TTS support would be awesome though Jul 01 03:23:20 I built a bing app for mojo using the bing ajax api Jul 01 03:23:27 much better to work with then googles Jul 01 03:23:27 BFG needs some ui love Jul 01 03:23:35 halfhalo: YES, API needed Jul 01 03:23:37 The Bing maps stuff is really nice Jul 01 03:23:38 halfhalo: I'm hoping tts gets made available to devs Jul 01 03:23:41 soooooo an RSS reader app, has like four things: a list of feeds, a list for each feed, a preview of each item in the list, and a view for each item in the list. right? Jul 01 03:23:43 right, what Tibfib said Jul 01 03:23:48 I mean, in general they do a really good job on their maps Jul 01 03:23:56 twbbas said something awesome earlier Jul 01 03:24:19 "Ok Everyone! Tap your phone to my touchpad to join the game" Jul 01 03:24:35 Bing maps mas are provided by navteq, they make good maps, ms made good use of them Jul 01 03:24:35 fxspec06: yeah, usually, for simple ones Jul 01 03:24:37 * halfhalo waits for veer build with TTS. Jul 01 03:24:44 Tibfib: YES!!! Jul 01 03:25:03 i would get the basic functionality down first then add features along the way. Jul 01 03:25:09 i can probably do it Jul 01 03:25:22 fxspec06: email/dm me if you need any help Jul 01 03:25:27 fxspec06: If I can't swipe between items, you're doing it wrong Jul 01 03:25:30 alright Jul 01 03:25:35 I HATE pressing buttons Jul 01 03:25:36 i won't do it wrong Jul 01 03:25:52 fxspec06: don't make Tibfib mad :P Jul 01 03:26:01 you will do it like no one else Jul 01 03:26:04 when a swipe is logical Jul 01 03:26:06 i wouldn't want to piss off the almighty TIBFIB Jul 01 03:26:13 mmm Jul 01 03:26:17 :p Jul 01 03:26:18 YOU BETTER NOT Jul 01 03:26:24 Mattais showed himself on honeycomb I think Jul 01 03:26:38 yeah, don't pick a fight with tibfib - he's a total spaz Jul 01 03:26:39 it's too complicated Jul 01 03:26:41 I am surprised there are no gestures (unless I havent found them) Jul 01 03:27:01 I found honeycomb really unintuitive Jul 01 03:27:04 spaz.. there's this guy on our local radio station named spaz Jul 01 03:27:04 Android 4 I am sure will have a gesture area Jul 01 03:27:12 is that where you got the name for the app Jul 01 03:27:13 hehe probably Jul 01 03:27:15 matt Jul 01 03:27:19 fxspec06: ask funkatron Jul 01 03:27:23 there was a link earlier Jul 01 03:27:31 err, s/earlier/somewhere/ Jul 01 03:27:40 it's in the KB at help.getspaz.com Jul 01 03:27:47 Honeycomb is pretty good when you realize that for most apps there are two back buttons Jul 01 03:27:54 but multitasking sucks Jul 01 03:28:40 mattsmcnulty: are dashboards in webOS 3.0 still forced to a certain height? Jul 01 03:28:54 because if so, that's dumb. Jul 01 03:29:03 I could do sooo many cool things with dashboards if I had more space Jul 01 03:29:11 IT'S SO OFFENSIVE. Jul 01 03:29:22 Tibfib: don't think so Jul 01 03:29:28 j/k Jul 01 03:30:01 the sms app could have a reply button in the notification Jul 01 03:30:07 it expands with a text box Jul 01 03:30:08 boom Jul 01 03:30:09 roy's spilling my secrets over on the webosradio chat Jul 01 03:30:50 I personally want tabs. Theres empty space up in the top bar, stick tabs representing open cards in an app, or in a stack. Jul 01 03:31:04 cards > tabs Jul 01 03:31:05 that'd be awesome Jul 01 03:31:06 i made tabs in my wildngame Jul 01 03:31:10 mattsmcnulty: in the top bar Jul 01 03:31:12 worked great for stats screen Jul 01 03:31:15 so both Jul 01 03:31:38 yup, both Jul 01 03:32:18 tabs with app icons Jul 01 03:32:26 so very space friendly Jul 01 03:32:29 horizontal scroller Jul 01 03:32:37 that would be sooooooooooo great Jul 01 03:32:44 halfhalo: worked on patching at all? Jul 01 03:32:46 there's tons of space on the screen, but i have no idea how much because i've never used one. Jul 01 03:32:54 I do agree that some exposé-ish interface for cards would be nice Jul 01 03:32:57 Tibfib: not yet. Jul 01 03:33:15 expose is killer. biggest feature i miss from the mac Jul 01 03:33:29 halfhalo: that'd be killer Jul 01 03:33:34 it's an incredibly odd feeling to watch some dude randomly talk about the product you spent nearly every waking second of the last 10 months making Jul 01 03:33:46 yeah Jul 01 03:33:51 haha Jul 01 03:34:02 yeah Jul 01 03:34:02 "Reasonably good" Jul 01 03:34:05 YES Jul 01 03:34:13 dude's got two spazes on there Jul 01 03:34:45 2?! Jul 01 03:34:48 awesome! hahaha Jul 01 03:35:05 he's a spazoid Jul 01 03:35:32 mattsmcnulty: you work on Ares? Jul 01 03:35:34 why the hell is everyone so obsessed with boot time Jul 01 03:35:46 PatrickC: yes, I designed ares and run the team Jul 01 03:36:00 when will the beta (for enyo) be out? Jul 01 03:36:16 i'd be eager to help Jul 01 03:36:21 heh Jul 01 03:36:33 seriously, I'm not going to turn off my touchpad all the time Jul 01 03:36:59 the only time mine is off/reboots is when it gets doctored. Jul 01 03:37:04 mine will be on all the time Jul 01 03:37:15 * PatrickC steals halfhalo's touchpad! Jul 01 03:37:18 we are working on ares now, but it's a tad too early to say a date. it's the top priority Jul 01 03:37:28 mattsmcnulty: Didn't seem to be a very big secret. Jul 01 03:37:32 well, on my pre- that requires a battery pull every now and again, boot time gets old Jul 01 03:37:34 mattsmcnulty: I really hope you are working on touchpad support :) Jul 01 03:37:36 roy: just teasing Jul 01 03:37:40 :) Jul 01 03:37:57 mattsmcnulty: ok. it'll be announced when ready for beta? Jul 01 03:38:06 we wanted to do ares the same time as touchpad but mail/browser/maps/framework/sdk was about all we could handle Jul 01 03:38:19 mattsmcnulty: sounds like you need more interns! Jul 01 03:38:22 no, we'll probably just sit there and hope people notice :-) Jul 01 03:38:36 hah Jul 01 03:38:43 we'll have some alpha or something just as soon as we can Jul 01 03:38:48 it's taking shape Jul 01 03:38:53 cool Jul 01 03:38:59 the Enyo app ready yet? :) Jul 01 03:39:09 what enyo app Jul 01 03:39:24 for Ares Jul 01 03:39:31 for On-Device-Development Jul 01 03:39:34 ares 2 is written in enyo Jul 01 03:39:43 * Tibfib heart flutters Jul 01 03:40:02 so it'll run on the touchpad?! Jul 01 03:40:11 so wait Jul 01 03:40:15 stopgap: make a chroot, install java, install ff, be happy. Jul 01 03:40:16 you can develop touchpad apps Jul 01 03:40:19 on the touchpad? Jul 01 03:40:41 * fxspec06 's brain explodes from infinite recursion loop Jul 01 03:40:52 halfhalo did :P Jul 01 03:40:55 you technically can make mojo apps from a pre Jul 01 03:41:01 all you need is internalz Jul 01 03:41:06 I think Jul 01 03:41:08 you just cant package them easily Jul 01 03:41:09 ehhh Jul 01 03:41:11 i'd rather not Jul 01 03:41:13 you may have to install a blank app to the beginning Jul 01 03:41:15 =) Jul 01 03:41:17 PatrickC: no you don't Jul 01 03:41:35 my computer is still the best tool around Jul 01 03:41:46 Tibfib: ah, true Jul 01 03:41:57 after your touchpad you mean Jul 01 03:42:09 AFTER YOUR FOLEO Jul 01 03:42:16 well that goes without saying Jul 01 03:42:18 lol, there is still 21 mins till launch Jul 01 03:42:22 his comp is still the best tool Jul 01 03:42:24 not MY touchpad. unless you guys would kind enough to send one over in this direction Jul 01 03:42:43 they'll be sending one to me soon :) Jul 01 03:42:45 * fxspec06 wink wink nudge nudge Jul 01 03:42:46 * Tibfib wonders, dev discount announcement at midnight, or later Jul 01 03:42:47 now if you provided those of us who have been developing since launch a tp then ... Jul 01 03:42:52 mattsmcnulty: PM? Jul 01 03:43:16 then again most of those people if they are still here seemed to have been absorbed into palm Jul 01 03:44:36 my future touchpad. Jul 01 03:44:39 sugardave: good job finally gettting enyo out of nda Jul 01 03:44:54 hey! Jul 01 03:45:06 that was me and kerris last night in an email Jul 01 03:45:14 yeah, congrats sugardave Jul 01 03:45:17 it's okay, you don't need to cover for him Jul 01 03:45:17 :) Jul 01 03:45:41 damn, so this is like, -the- place to be Jul 01 03:45:44 Tibfib: at midnight would be rockin' Jul 01 03:46:02 #webos: where the cool kids hang out Jul 01 03:46:09 lol Jul 01 03:46:11 and sometimes ask development questions Jul 01 03:46:15 finally.. philip it took you a while Jul 01 03:46:16 lol Jul 01 03:46:24 well, the cool kids... and tibfib Jul 01 03:46:25 im on 3g, and I wasn't very motivated. Jul 01 03:46:36 oil: one day I'll be one of them Jul 01 03:46:39 l o l Jul 01 03:46:42 OIL Jul 01 03:46:49 lol Jul 01 03:46:53 have we stopped blaming him yet> Jul 01 03:46:53 who wants to buy me a TP? Jul 01 03:46:54 ? Jul 01 03:47:01 its never been my fault Jul 01 03:47:07 liess Jul 01 03:47:14 its always oil's fault Jul 01 03:47:24 who wants to give me 3.0 for my pre2? Jul 01 03:47:31 I think I remember a press release about it being oils fault Jul 01 03:47:37 hahaha Jul 01 03:47:41 lol Jul 01 03:47:48 who wants to give me a touchpad for my pre plus? Jul 01 03:47:56 and a copy of scream 3 Jul 01 03:48:01 were sorry, no touchpad in 2010, we blame oil... Jul 01 03:48:10 sorry no touchpad until later this summer... we blame oil Jul 01 03:48:15 it was all there Jul 01 03:48:22 none of which is my fault! Jul 01 03:48:27 TMC error?!?!?! Jul 01 03:48:42 But then they added BING to everything, so not I can eternally tell OIL to Bing it Jul 01 03:48:43 on a pre2?! Jul 01 03:48:52 * oil bing nothing Jul 01 03:48:55 so its no longer his fault so long as he bings it Jul 01 03:48:56 PatrickC: Close Koto player Jul 01 03:48:57 http://www.precentral.net/new-hp-touchpad-ad-surfaces-russell-brand this commercial is great Jul 01 03:48:57 and bings it good Jul 01 03:49:09 fxspec06: not open Jul 01 03:49:11 bring back the borg queen! Jul 01 03:49:21 ; ) j/p Jul 01 03:49:27 fxspec06: ouch, that's below the belt Jul 01 03:49:28 sir Jul 01 03:49:30 lol Jul 01 03:49:32 hahaha Jul 01 03:49:35 Tibfib: common, you know you liked creepy girl Jul 01 03:49:41 I think its Spaz Jul 01 03:49:43 who likes commercials about the product they are selling? Jul 01 03:49:57 mattsmcnulty: borg lady <3 Jul 01 03:50:10 I bing'd the borg queen and found results I didnt expect Jul 01 03:50:11 I actually went back and watched those original ads again the other day Jul 01 03:50:27 I have 4 cards open :| Jul 01 03:50:27 CTLAdvance: loser, shoulda used google Jul 01 03:50:28 I hated them then, but had made them even worse in my mind Jul 01 03:50:41 what does lumberjack and jsstop say Jul 01 03:50:46 lol google just gives me adds for porn which I expect, nothing but trash from google Jul 01 03:50:48 ,,, Jul 01 03:50:51 idk.. let me check Jul 01 03:51:04 ads Jul 01 03:51:06 62.55MB used Jul 01 03:51:18 mattsmcnulty: yeah, they are overexaggeratedly bad Jul 01 03:51:22 I closed msg'ing and it works fine now Jul 01 03:51:34 someone needs to send engadget recycled iPad line sitter pictures with HP logos over the apples Jul 01 03:51:40 stop texting your mom PatrickC Jul 01 03:51:42 weird. Jul 01 03:51:46 lol Jul 01 03:51:58 yeah.. texting works on unactivated devices :P Jul 01 03:52:20 Instant messaging your mom is even worse Jul 01 03:52:21 ok 12 mins till go time Jul 01 03:52:24 11 Jul 01 03:52:32 4 8 15 16 23 42 Jul 01 03:52:45 23 Jul 01 03:53:15 yay 11 minutes til who's line is it anyway is on again Jul 01 03:53:17 https://developer.palm.com/appredirect/?packageid=com.funkatron.app.spaz-hd Jul 01 03:53:29 eww.. stupid show Jul 01 03:53:32 10 minutes till tp launch Jul 01 03:53:38 where are the launch line articles Jul 01 03:53:39 ? Jul 01 03:53:46 my brother says the party in NYC best buy is fairly busy Jul 01 03:53:55 CTLAdvance: is anyone in line? Jul 01 03:54:00 i know, that's why i watch it Jul 01 03:54:01 I doubt many are.. Jul 01 03:54:01 lol I am not sure Jul 01 03:54:03 I am not Jul 01 03:54:04 I mean, are there any retailers open this late? Jul 01 03:54:10 I bet the NYC party is Jul 01 03:54:17 they had a decent line up Jul 01 03:54:17 walmart!!! Jul 01 03:54:25 not in my town!!!!!!!!!! Jul 01 03:54:29 * PatrickC masq's to 3.0! Jul 01 03:54:30 spend the evening with nick cannon Jul 01 03:54:32 and free food Jul 01 03:54:35 FREE FOOD Jul 01 03:54:35 lol Jul 01 03:54:38 yeah, I live in the middle of nowhere, there's nothing open this late Jul 01 03:54:39 nick cannon is hilarious! Jul 01 03:54:40 no booze though Jul 01 03:54:43 pre launch party had booze Jul 01 03:54:47 ugh Jul 01 03:54:51 psh Jul 01 03:54:59 wam! Jul 01 03:55:01 wildin' out with nick cannon was awesome Jul 01 03:55:02 but my brother says there are dancers Jul 01 03:55:03 summatusmentis: I live in the middle of nowhere.. yet the walmart by me is open Jul 01 03:55:06 I think some sprint stores had people serving beer/champ Jul 01 03:55:10 wait, why am I complaining, I don't drink. Jul 01 03:55:20 dude, Maine rolls up their sidewalks at 8pm Jul 01 03:55:20 can't believe im missing the NYC party.... chose the wrong week to be out of town. Jul 01 03:55:27 aint nothin but a g thang Jul 01 03:55:30 you guys have DANCERS Jul 01 03:55:31 I could use a beer Jul 01 03:55:46 I think that there might be some somewhere tomorrow at work. Jul 01 03:55:47 my psychologist said the party wasn't real Jul 01 03:55:51 summatusmentis: lol I live in a town of less then 2500 people :P Jul 01 03:55:55 -.- Jul 01 03:55:58 fxspec06: the spoon doesn't exist Jul 01 03:56:05 PatrickC: my town has 600, don't play this game with me :) Jul 01 03:56:16 hehe Jul 01 03:56:21 big town :P Jul 01 03:56:27 * halfhalo has... alot. Jul 01 03:56:28 yeeeeah... Jul 01 03:56:34 my friends town had less then 300 Jul 01 03:56:41 50,000ish here Jul 01 03:56:45 my friends town was down to 48 Jul 01 03:56:48 but that's with 20,000 studnets Jul 01 03:56:52 somewhere in alaska Jul 01 03:56:59 studnets and students Jul 01 03:57:01 but 10 miles away there's a huge town Jul 01 03:57:06 1mil here haha Jul 01 03:57:18 hmm Jul 01 03:57:22 8,000 or so here Jul 01 03:57:25 6 minutes until go time Jul 01 03:57:25 how many have heard of Murfreesboro, TN? Jul 01 03:57:28 Tibfib: 20,000 studnets? there must be a lot of studs in that town Jul 01 03:57:38 1.7 million Jul 01 03:57:41 yeah, it's tough to find prom date Jul 01 03:57:47 well I will wait until 12:15 and casually strole over to the mart and see whats happening Jul 01 03:57:50 s/find/find a/ Jul 01 03:57:54 summatusmentis: what? Jul 01 03:58:03 prom? you haven't been to prom yet? Jul 01 03:58:04 Tibfib> but that's with 20,000 studnets Jul 01 03:58:17 fxspec06: I have Jul 01 03:58:23 funkatron: so you'd need a lot of nets, to catch all the studs Jul 01 03:58:44 ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Jul 01 03:58:45 right. Jul 01 03:58:47 * halfhalo debates installing linux as a main os on one of his computers Jul 01 03:58:47 PatrickC: I've been there. Jul 01 03:58:48 fxspec06: used blackmail Jul 01 03:59:03 prom was fun. 7 years ago Jul 01 03:59:05 roy-pre101: cool Jul 01 03:59:12 I live just outside of there Jul 01 03:59:14 Went to school at Vanderbilt. Jul 01 03:59:21 vandy Jul 01 03:59:26 it's not all it's cracked up to be Jul 01 03:59:35 four minutes left!! Jul 01 03:59:40 woo! Jul 01 03:59:56 yayyyyyyyy now i can not have a touchpad even more! Jul 01 03:59:57 oh eyah east cost is almost midnight ahha Jul 01 04:00:05 one more hour here Jul 01 04:00:11 3 here ha Jul 01 04:00:24 1 hr here Jul 01 04:00:29 haeffb: you there? Jul 01 04:00:32 Tibfib: where do you live? Jul 01 04:00:36 kansas Jul 01 04:00:38 manhattan Jul 01 04:00:42 ah Jul 01 04:00:47 kansas! my stepmom is from kansas Jul 01 04:00:50 overland park Jul 01 04:00:52 fxspec06: I'm sorry Jul 01 04:00:54 lol Jul 01 04:01:03 just kidding, my sis lives in overland park Jul 01 04:01:09 now, the real release is when we get TP doctors. Jul 01 04:01:14 sweet Jul 01 04:01:23 and kernel source Jul 01 04:01:24 * PatrickC is from FL Jul 01 04:01:48 she's got a crazy accent. we're turning her bostonian tho Jul 01 04:02:01 did they add the ability to change the user agent for 3.0 in the browser Jul 01 04:02:10 Flashpass: yep Jul 01 04:02:33 CTLAdvance: no, but I wanted that Jul 01 04:02:36 I should have had someone sneak it in Jul 01 04:02:40 haeffb: pm? Jul 01 04:02:45 I have been asking for that since 2009 Jul 01 04:02:50 shockingly few angry birds easter egg references in the reviews, btw Jul 01 04:02:53 mattsmcnulty: we can patch that :) Jul 01 04:03:00 IE, Firefox, etc Jul 01 04:03:02 mattsmcnulty: are there more than the one? Jul 01 04:03:14 What about a mode to render in desktop or mobile Jul 01 04:03:27 you cant patch that Jul 01 04:03:34 last I heard it required a binary fix Jul 01 04:03:38 why would you want that? Jul 01 04:03:44 there are 7. you have to keep looking until you find all 7 Jul 01 04:04:01 mattsmcnulty: nice! I'll look for them once I get mine Jul 01 04:04:02 it's 12 officially Jul 01 04:04:27 ok, I can't let myself be that mean. no, there's just the one Jul 01 04:05:07 * Tibfib feels like mattsmcnulty just gave him a chocolate bar, and then took it back and smashed it Jul 01 04:05:22 i will admit, ii did a double take the first time i saw a tp do it. Jul 01 04:05:32 I need to find a video of it Jul 01 04:05:36 would it have been worse if I let you keep looking for them Jul 01 04:05:42 halfhalo: link Jul 01 04:05:49 yeah, I probably would have looked for a while Jul 01 04:05:51 and complained Jul 01 04:05:54 it was actually a joke a dev put in Jul 01 04:05:58 sent you thousands of emails Jul 01 04:06:15 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnpSPu-q-D8 Jul 01 04:06:22 the touchpad launched!!!!! Jul 01 04:06:24 for like two days the entire office was angry birds sounds like every 35 seconds Jul 01 04:06:27 that's awesome Jul 01 04:06:29 woo! Jul 01 04:06:31 such a great feature Jul 01 04:06:37 mattsmcnulty: did you license the sounds? Jul 01 04:07:02 stupid TMC error.... Jul 01 04:07:09 yes Jul 01 04:07:17 awesome Jul 01 04:07:19 so who now has bought there tp at walmart? Jul 01 04:07:23 I did! Jul 01 04:07:25 oh, wait Jul 01 04:07:29 heh Jul 01 04:07:30 it's still JUNE Jul 01 04:07:40 12:04 AM EST Jul 01 04:07:42 its July here Jul 01 04:07:46 you lie Jul 01 04:07:49 again Patrick Jul 01 04:07:49 I do not Jul 01 04:07:58 we all know only the west coast is important Jul 01 04:08:02 lol Jul 01 04:08:05 I was talking EDT :) Jul 01 04:08:13 =O holy crap this whole time i thought there were 31 days in june Jul 01 04:08:19 i'm so dumb Jul 01 04:08:38 whats the west coast? is that like indiana? Jul 01 04:08:50 don't be silly and make up state names like that Jul 01 04:08:59 oh hi funkatron Jul 01 04:09:05 my app is still waiting for review, so technically i didn't meet my goal =| Jul 01 04:09:05 sorry Jul 01 04:09:11 not a real state Jul 01 04:09:29 lol Jul 01 04:10:42 * PatrickC was gonna bug chuq about it being July 1st.. and wanting a dev discount.. but won't :P Jul 01 04:10:55 * CTLAdvance looks for chuq Jul 01 04:11:09 * fxspec06 wonders who chuq is and why he should care Jul 01 04:11:16 chuq's an early riser Jul 01 04:11:23 * CTLAdvance has been bugging chuq about getting a device... Jul 01 04:11:36 fxspec06: chuq is a bomb Jul 01 04:11:40 * CTLAdvance they tell stories about chuq and how he saved the world Jul 01 04:11:45 CTLAdvance: bug him some more Jul 01 04:11:47 ohh i see. Jul 01 04:11:48 chuq is one of the first palm employees I met, on his first week, when I was at pre dev camp Jul 01 04:11:58 lol Jul 01 04:12:02 lol Jul 01 04:12:06 chuq operates the reality distortion field Jul 01 04:12:10 so chuq is like a wizard Jul 01 04:12:15 well maybe Jul 01 04:12:18 like a warlock Jul 01 04:12:24 more or less a living version of duke nukem Jul 01 04:12:25 there it is Jul 01 04:12:30 less babes more birds Jul 01 04:12:40 he was in charge of giving out the devices that week. at the end, after I did my demo, he gave me his card and was like "take this, I am sure we'll be in touch a lot" Jul 01 04:12:46 and apparently a gorilla Jul 01 04:13:14 hahah nice Jul 01 04:13:15 he's a pretty awesome dude Jul 01 04:13:26 yes he is Jul 01 04:13:29 * PatrickC starts falling asleep Jul 01 04:13:31 yup Jul 01 04:13:35 I would love to meet chuq Jul 01 04:13:38 eh, he's okay Jul 01 04:13:43 bring him to Nashville :) Jul 01 04:13:45 Jul 01 04:13:46 is it bad when the static icons in the windows taskbar are moving around the screen Jul 01 04:13:59 fxspec06: it's a feature Jul 01 04:14:06 ozetadev just tweeted yfrog.com/hszz6tymj Jul 01 04:14:07 haha Jul 01 04:14:29 hah Jul 01 04:14:35 my bed is a great feature Jul 01 04:14:40 hah Jul 01 04:14:46 stupid TMC error... Jul 01 04:14:54 I'm off to bed, and rebooting this phone! Jul 01 04:14:57 night all Jul 01 04:15:24 so, now that the average age of the room has gone up 10 years... Jul 01 04:15:39 so says the college student Jul 01 04:15:40 hahaha Jul 01 04:15:44 lol Jul 01 04:15:48 heh Jul 01 04:16:20 is he really that young Jul 01 04:16:28 high school age Jul 01 04:16:28 who? Jul 01 04:16:31 patrick Jul 01 04:16:36 wow Jul 01 04:16:39 yeah I think he's a sophmore Jul 01 04:16:44 wow Jul 01 04:16:44 oh wow. Jul 01 04:16:48 next year Jul 01 04:16:53 ha Jul 01 04:16:58 jeeeeeez Jul 01 04:17:01 homeschooled though Jul 01 04:17:07 oh, I didn't know that Jul 01 04:17:09 wait, really? Jul 01 04:17:31 that would explain why it seems like he's always here Jul 01 04:17:36 hahaahaha Jul 01 04:17:37 yes Jul 01 04:17:39 I mean, I'm always here, but, still Jul 01 04:17:47 which i don't normally have an issue with, but cmon. when someone doesn't know who journey is, something is wrong there. Jul 01 04:17:48 so he's not really a developer is what i've gathered Jul 01 04:17:57 he is Jul 01 04:17:59 he's learning Jul 01 04:18:02 oh okay. Jul 01 04:18:09 and likes to jump projects :) Jul 01 04:18:09 ha, so my brother is in line to get his touchpad just now. dude behind mentions "matt mcnulty was chatting last night" Jul 01 04:18:20 hah Jul 01 04:18:21 * fxspec06 *donnnnn't stop! beleeeeeeeeeivin!* Jul 01 04:18:41 i do one project at a time Jul 01 04:18:47 your brother needs to wait in line? O:) Jul 01 04:18:57 mattsmcnulty: what's the license on the stock enyo apps? same as the stock mojo apps? Jul 01 04:19:10 are they giving free pads out down there? Jul 01 04:19:18 or in nyc Jul 01 04:19:19 yup, just like everyone else. he likes the whole launch party thing Jul 01 04:19:25 down there from here... albany ny Jul 01 04:19:28 ozetadev: you in nyc? Jul 01 04:19:57 over here it's over there Jul 01 04:20:05 * halfhalo blew all his TP money on gas + hotel for TP event earlier. Jul 01 04:20:20 mattsmcnulty: not right now, chose the *worst* week to be out of town Jul 01 04:20:20 or, it's *that way* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jul 01 04:20:25 halfhalo you in NYC Jul 01 04:20:32 I'm in Manhattan! Jul 01 04:20:35 halfhalo: that's good, we like our slaves poor and hungry Jul 01 04:20:37 Kansas. Jul 01 04:20:39 CTLAdvance: no, LA Jul 01 04:20:40 I mean interns, my mistake Jul 01 04:20:49 NYC is only 1.5 hours from here Jul 01 04:20:57 24 best buy in nyc Jul 01 04:21:12 fxspec where you at Jul 01 04:21:13 if i started driving right now and floored it, i could make it by 2am Jul 01 04:21:26 just outside of worcester ma Jul 01 04:21:38 right off ma pike exit 10 Jul 01 04:21:46 cops hang out right at the CT border though Jul 01 04:21:48 ah ok Jul 01 04:21:54 not that I got my first speeding ticket there or anything Jul 01 04:21:59 mattsmcnulty not usually Jul 01 04:22:01 so... i managed to lose my veer. its still tied to the TP, but nowhere to be seen in my room right now. Second time this has happened Jul 01 04:22:02 yeah but they leave the pike alone for the most part Jul 01 04:22:06 and also depends where they enter ny Jul 01 04:22:07 on my way to the yankees 96 world series parade Jul 01 04:22:12 radar detector ftw Jul 01 04:22:14 halfhalo: hahahah Jul 01 04:22:24 are the touchpad doctors up yet? O:) Jul 01 04:22:31 I travel NY/Mass/CT frequently they hang randomly, not usually on the border Jul 01 04:22:32 Veer 4g: Not for the forgetful Jul 01 04:22:50 * halfhalo wants a pre3 Jul 01 04:22:50 halfhalo: in many states, radar detectors are illegal Jul 01 04:22:56 zzzzz i'm going to bed Jul 01 04:22:59 my radar detector saves me regularly now. but at the time I was in college and did not have one Jul 01 04:23:00 night folks Jul 01 04:23:12 radar detectors are illegal in DC and VA I think, nowhere else Jul 01 04:23:25 mattsmcnulty: I'm pretty sure they're illegal in ME and MN Jul 01 04:23:26 dkirker: you RT'd this https://twitter.com/dkirker/status/86635101647151104 <- are you going to be there, do you know what that is? I'm thinking of going but not sure how exactly it'd work. Jul 01 04:23:33 although I might be thinking about scramblers Jul 01 04:23:35 * halfhalo is in college and paid the money for an escort passport 9500 after a speeding ticket. Jul 01 04:23:35 ozetadev: not that I can see Jul 01 04:23:41 scramblers are illegal lots of places Jul 01 04:23:50 valentine one ftw Jul 01 04:23:51 it's probably scramblers I'm thinking of hen Jul 01 04:23:58 then* Jul 01 04:23:59 * CTLAdvance was looking into laser jammers Jul 01 04:24:05 but as for radar Jul 01 04:24:06 hard-wired into my car's electronics Jul 01 04:24:18 chpwn: you get a touchpad yet? Jul 01 04:24:25 no comment Jul 01 04:24:30 lemme tell you, the escort saved me many times on the 5 driving up there Jul 01 04:24:32 ask me again in three hours Jul 01 04:24:39 oh? Jul 01 04:24:43 except the local CHP have switched to lasers. not fun. Jul 01 04:24:53 chpwn: it's past midnight in NYC Jul 01 04:24:55 chpwn: its 12 according to what i've read, you have one now.... Jul 01 04:24:59 nda is lifted Jul 01 04:25:02 thats why there is laser jamming equipment Jul 01 04:25:06 there is one CHP car with laser here Jul 01 04:25:10 but I believe that is illegal for the most part Jul 01 04:25:17 halfhalo: I've found escorts to be a good investment >_> Jul 01 04:25:17 ah, okay, then I do :p Jul 01 04:25:29 he wouldn't no comment if he didn't haha Jul 01 04:25:30 every other CHP car just drives around with their radar on 24/7 Jul 01 04:25:31 chpwn: when the doctors go up, i'll go download paste. I have it on my iphone :) Jul 01 04:25:41 I can see them coming for like 2 miles - 5-6 out in the valley Jul 01 04:25:41 all our cars have plate cameras now, so they check your plates and pull up the reg, inspection, ins etc Jul 01 04:25:51 so doctors are coming tomorrow it looks like Jul 01 04:26:01 mattsmcnulty: yeah. same. gotta love good radar detectors. Jul 01 04:26:44 dev devices should come before doctors Jul 01 04:27:06 no, they shouldn't Jul 01 04:27:10 yes they should Jul 01 04:27:14 well they can, if they are both on launch day Jul 01 04:27:14 nope Jul 01 04:27:16 how about at same time Jul 01 04:27:23 yeah Jul 01 04:27:27 sounds good to me Jul 01 04:27:32 doctors should be first Jul 01 04:27:33 chuq twittered for devs to use the doctor right Jul 01 04:28:02 different teams are responsible for pushing different things live Jul 01 04:28:18 so they can happen throughout the day Jul 01 04:28:31 well it' Jul 01 04:28:36 it's been nice chatting with you all Jul 01 04:28:39 goooooodnight Jul 01 04:28:41 night Jul 01 04:28:44 happy july first Jul 01 04:28:57 'night Jul 01 04:29:07 I have been asking chuq for prerelease hardware since middle of last year when I know they had them Jul 01 04:29:13 and he refused Jul 01 04:29:33 chpwn: do you have the app catalog? Jul 01 04:29:38 ozetadev_: no Jul 01 04:29:50 we did not have them middle of last year Jul 01 04:29:56 ah ok Jul 01 04:30:28 someone showed me a pad last year with webOS on it, not sure what it was, but they werent supposed to show me Jul 01 04:30:49 then they hid it in their bag and denied having it Jul 01 04:31:01 I was like wtf... Jul 01 04:31:17 this was november sorry, I was working on my bing tracker at this time. Jul 01 04:31:17 probably some CIA shit going on there Jul 01 04:31:27 well I was traveling out west Jul 01 04:31:36 wisconsin, then southwest and back Jul 01 04:31:42 chpwn: what made you a webOS guy? Jul 01 04:32:04 ozetadev_: my first Palm device was a Visor PRo Jul 01 04:32:14 Visor prism here Jul 01 04:32:23 I should dig out my m130 for kicks Jul 01 04:32:39 I need to get a treo 600 running Jul 01 04:32:40 (although: my favorite Palm OS device was by /far/ the Tapwave Zodiac) Jul 01 04:32:41 chpwn: ok you win :P Jul 01 04:32:55 handspring! Jul 01 04:33:01 mattsmcnulty can we get a developer folio then at least? Jul 01 04:33:10 'lo everyone Jul 01 04:33:26 developer foleos? totally in! Jul 01 04:33:31 developer foleos for all! Jul 01 04:33:41 shall we email you our address? Jul 01 04:33:45 I haven't checked to see if you could make a good touchpad case out of them Jul 01 04:33:54 i demand to be paid in foleos Jul 01 04:34:08 thinking we pay is your first mistake Jul 01 04:34:30 lol Jul 01 04:34:38 awww, shucks Jul 01 04:35:00 halfhalo: BTW, apparently your first task is to go through /var/log/messages and drive every line to removal or bug report. Jul 01 04:35:17 ... Jul 01 04:36:01 that would take years Jul 01 04:36:27 better get started then Jul 01 04:36:28 logging is turned down on release builds, fyi. confirmed tonight Jul 01 04:37:22 good Jul 01 04:37:53 matt: just a matter of framework_config getting turned down, right? Jul 01 04:38:21 halfhalo: job security Jul 01 04:38:47 mattsmcnulty: danke Jul 01 04:39:27 next task: go through the precentral et al forum threads of "bug reports" file them in the system, and get them fixed and a release made ;) Jul 01 04:39:37 rwhitby: I... just.. no. Jul 01 04:40:01 framework_config works if people use the levels and enyo log methods Jul 01 04:40:06 but we added them kind of last minute Jul 01 04:40:24 back for more enyo lessons Jul 01 04:42:09 * summatusmentis cheks for dev device info before bed Jul 01 04:42:30 anyone waiting in line at walmart for the TP? Jul 01 04:42:34 * halfhalo sits here and waits for veer ota for touchtoshare Jul 01 04:42:37 I am! Jul 01 04:42:47 or I am laying on the sofa. one of those Jul 01 04:43:00 lol/ Jul 01 04:43:05 haha Jul 01 04:43:27 it walmart open at midnight? Jul 01 04:43:58 walmart at midnight would be really creepy Jul 01 04:44:06 ha true Jul 01 04:44:13 more than usual Jul 01 04:44:52 Walmart after 8 is a scary experience. Jul 01 04:44:57 i think super walmarts are open 24/7 Jul 01 04:45:06 'night all Jul 01 04:47:12 night Jul 01 04:47:27 night Jul 01 04:47:30 http://uoid.me/float1 Jul 01 04:47:35 ok, I'm out too. prob catch you all tomorrow sometime after the SDK gets posted. Told em to aim early in the day. Jul 01 04:47:46 nightnight! Jul 01 04:47:51 night Jul 01 04:48:33 adios Jul 01 04:48:42 night brosef Jul 01 04:49:13 laters Jul 01 04:49:31 Who do I have to blow to get a Pre3 early :| Jul 01 04:50:24 probably a bunch of people Jul 01 04:52:09 funkatron: not that my approval means anything, but A+ on spaz Jul 01 04:53:14 anyone has a tp to try if my app still don't work? Jul 01 04:55:55 what app? Jul 01 04:56:15 its not submited Jul 01 04:56:23 problems with the video kind Jul 01 04:56:42 just to check if the video kind still has problems Jul 01 04:57:54 without checking: probably in the same state it has been in Jul 01 04:58:19 :/ Jul 01 04:58:24 thanks anyway Jul 01 04:58:52 enyo.video is not exactly a high priority (nor much of a wrapper) Jul 01 04:59:14 what was it doing? Jul 01 04:59:35 but i think the html5