**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jul 13 02:59:57 2011 Jul 13 03:21:54 really wishing that kindle app was out Jul 13 03:21:57 dammit Jul 13 03:29:32 * fxspec06 almost has the whole thing converted to multi-stage capable Jul 13 03:30:32 Flashpass: sorta Jul 13 03:30:47 haeffb: Done. Jul 13 03:31:33 thank you Jul 13 03:31:48 haeffb: mind if I pm? Jul 13 03:32:16 * halfhalo hates the waiting game and wants to cheat Jul 13 03:32:51 go ahead. I might even respond. Jul 13 03:39:35 fxspec06: done?! Jul 13 03:44:12 done as in Jul 13 03:44:16 i've got the game working again Jul 13 03:44:20 cool Jul 13 03:44:26 i'm trying to createstagewithcallback Jul 13 03:44:27 right now Jul 13 03:44:32 any frankenpre2 people in here? Jul 13 03:49:55 apparently not Jul 13 03:50:15 yeah.. Jul 13 03:50:20 lol Jul 13 03:50:27 I'm happy I don't have to do a token swap anymore Jul 13 03:50:55 i'll be happy when i can open a new stage in a new card. Jul 13 03:51:02 i'll be SOOOOOOOO happy. Jul 13 03:51:11 lol Jul 13 03:51:24 I'll be happy when I get that package from ebay... Jul 13 03:52:36 i'll be happen when that package from ebay gets redirected into my direction Jul 13 03:52:58 lol Jul 13 03:53:07 do you need a pre- with a broken screen? Jul 13 03:55:53 if it magically turns into a touchpad, or an exact copy of my app that just happens to create a new scene when you tap this button Jul 13 03:56:35 createStageWithCallback is a method of appcontroller... Jul 13 04:02:51 any sprint users? Jul 13 04:09:50 ZMG. Jul 13 04:09:57 * fxspec06 opened a new card that hangs Jul 13 04:10:00 !!! Jul 13 04:10:37 hangs :/ Jul 13 04:10:51 lies Jul 13 04:10:52 hangs!!! Jul 13 04:11:13 truestory!!! Jul 13 04:11:28 anyone know if you activate a used phone on sprint, do you occur the $10 a month fee? Jul 13 04:12:37 i don't think you occur the $10 a month fee. you may recieve one in your bill Jul 13 04:13:08 incur Jul 13 04:13:36 if you activate a new line, you'll incur whatever the fee is for another line on your account Jul 13 04:13:57 if you activate it on your existing line, you should not Jul 13 04:13:59 what if you change phones on an existing line? Jul 13 04:14:04 ok good Jul 13 04:14:13 would really like to be reading Dance with Dragons on the pad :( Jul 13 04:14:17 just bought another pre off ebay for a comms board Jul 13 04:14:23 i wonder if i can unencrust the book Jul 13 04:14:47 omg Jul 13 04:14:54 what?! Jul 13 04:14:55 * fxspec06 has launched the chat in a new card Jul 13 04:15:11 no you didn't! Jul 13 04:15:15 oh yes i did Jul 13 04:15:22 but i now need to change the chat scene Jul 13 04:15:24 lol Jul 13 04:15:41 wow, this is gonna be really cool Jul 13 04:15:47 dammit. Jul 13 04:15:55 lol Jul 13 04:16:02 * haeffb travelling and the local news channel has an iPad app. Jul 13 04:16:17 webOS is toast. Jul 13 04:16:21 no touchpad app :"( Jul 13 04:18:20 anyone know of $L works in multistage Jul 13 04:18:32 * fxspec06 only one way to find out..... Jul 13 04:19:50 yes it do Jul 13 04:19:55 yeeeea it does !!!! Jul 13 04:20:21 !!!!!! Jul 13 04:20:42 omg if this works Jul 13 04:20:46 i'm gonna go to the bathroom Jul 13 04:21:05 haha Jul 13 04:23:50 robotek says "purchases are not required to complete the game" Jul 13 04:23:58 while true, you can easily end up in a place where you cannot continue Jul 13 04:24:13 robotek? Jul 13 04:24:31 pad game Jul 13 04:24:37 ah Jul 13 04:26:12 ah crappp now something not working in chatroom. Jul 13 04:26:25 :/ Jul 13 04:26:31 but Jul 13 04:26:35 i made all the way to chatroom Jul 13 04:26:50 yeah! Jul 13 04:27:01 that much closer to getting another beta out ;) Jul 13 04:27:06 cxreg: not if you're good at it :-P Jul 13 04:27:22 (I've restarted campaign a number of times because I can't continue) Jul 13 04:29:01 PATRICKc: beta is closed Jul 13 04:29:04 * PatrickC never restarted Jul 13 04:29:12 fxspec06: no it isnt! Jul 13 04:29:12 it's like, uber private now Jul 13 04:29:18 you can't download it anymore! Jul 13 04:29:23 it's been suspended Jul 13 04:29:38 summatusmentis: problem is, it's luck based Jul 13 04:29:48 you hit a bad couple rolls and you're screwed Jul 13 04:29:49 I don't think it is Jul 13 04:29:58 I'm pretty sure there's a pattern in the rolling Jul 13 04:30:08 fxspec06: I still have access O_o Jul 13 04:30:30 cxreg: I've been addicted to this game for the past 48 hours :-/ Jul 13 04:30:33 heh Jul 13 04:30:41 i deleted the save files by hand Jul 13 04:30:43 is that what you did? Jul 13 04:32:36 Hi there Jul 13 04:32:50 hey quad_damage Jul 13 04:33:09 I am trying to draw a path and then use the clip() method to draw a clipped image Jul 13 04:33:40 However, one of the paths is not clipped... when I stroke the path, it seems to be a closed path Jul 13 04:33:48 Hi PatrickC Jul 13 04:33:53 cxreg: no, in options you can say "restart campaign" Jul 13 04:34:11 oh ok Jul 13 04:34:15 you have to go through the training thing again Jul 13 04:34:19 but yeah Jul 13 04:34:36 i think the usb port on my pad is going bad Jul 13 04:34:41 i may send it in Jul 13 04:34:47 dont Jul 13 04:34:49 already?! Jul 13 04:34:54 when its plugged in i get the charging notification a lot Jul 13 04:34:57 use as a doorstop instead Jul 13 04:35:21 here is the code... http://pastebin.com/WfVNbPyC Jul 13 04:35:21 Could anyone help me with this? Jul 13 04:35:35 dawm: that's what ipad's are for Jul 13 04:35:46 quad_damage: sorry, not in my alley Jul 13 04:36:44 seriously.. who ever invented the duck face should be shot Jul 13 04:37:16 duck face? Jul 13 04:37:28 http://antiduckface.com/ Jul 13 04:37:30 that shit Jul 13 04:38:56 wow... Jul 13 04:39:32 theres a song too Jul 13 04:39:40 wow... Jul 13 04:39:43 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT9YI3hAkCY Jul 13 04:39:48 I don't want to see/hear that Jul 13 04:39:50 nsfw (language) Jul 13 04:41:24 the horror... I watched.. ewwww Jul 13 04:41:26 and I saw Jul 13 04:41:38 lol Jul 13 04:41:45 why did I click lol Jul 13 04:41:52 I had to click the link... Jul 13 04:42:19 dawm: want to join my beta? Jul 13 04:42:25 dude Jul 13 04:42:29 what? Jul 13 04:42:32 i seriously thought you asked me to join your race Jul 13 04:42:42 what? lol Jul 13 04:42:44 ive been overlooking/misreading words all night Jul 13 04:42:48 race? Jul 13 04:42:50 lol Jul 13 04:43:06 is it 1.4.5 friendly? Jul 13 04:43:13 mostly, yeah Jul 13 04:43:21 well thats what i would be using it on.. Jul 13 04:43:26 i've never tested it on 1.4.5, you could be the first :) Jul 13 04:43:30 lol Jul 13 04:43:32 i'm holding out Jul 13 04:43:41 hoping just hoping sprint tosses us a pre3 Jul 13 04:43:47 on my beta, or meta-doctoring Jul 13 04:43:56 same here dawm... same here Jul 13 04:44:07 i do not want to go droid.. Jul 13 04:44:11 I'm getting ready to frankenpre2 soon Jul 13 04:44:21 just need the pre to come in the mail Jul 13 04:44:31 i guess i missed out on the semi damaged pre for $5 since the guy on CL wont respond Jul 13 04:44:47 oh, the beta address is http://forums.awesomeapps.8tar.com Jul 13 04:44:58 I just picked one up for 15$ shipped Jul 13 04:45:31 plus ive got all these touchstones that would be useless if i went droid Jul 13 04:45:55 same here Jul 13 04:47:30 =O adora left =( Jul 13 04:47:45 no!!!! Jul 13 04:48:08 no palm employees are here :( Jul 13 04:48:09 * The main housing of the phone has sustained serious cosmetic damage. Jul 13 04:48:15 except halfhalo Jul 13 04:48:21 no pics either Jul 13 04:48:22 dawm: ebay? Jul 13 04:48:25 i've been that a lot Jul 13 04:48:42 * halfhalo is not employee till monday Jul 13 04:48:56 ah Jul 13 04:50:35 scam? http://freeiphonez.info/ta/ Jul 13 04:52:45 without looking at the content of the link, I woudl say yes Jul 13 04:53:29 lol Jul 13 04:53:30 same here Jul 13 04:54:05 if not, it's a big referral farm thing that may get you the free item, but will make it hard to collect, and meanwhile will sell your information to everyone under the sun Jul 13 04:55:15 I got that from a tweet.. I get at least 1 spam tweet a day! :S Jul 13 04:55:57 you should follow more users Jul 13 04:56:03 then you won't care Jul 13 04:56:28 lol Jul 13 04:56:44 I don't follow the people that spam me though Jul 13 04:56:49 idk how they find me Jul 13 04:58:04 scam Jul 13 04:58:24 yeah.. Jul 13 04:58:26 g'damn i make new scene and now there's chat error again. except worse. =( Jul 13 04:58:50 new stage* Jul 13 04:58:52 ohno Jul 13 04:58:55 controller is not defined Jul 13 04:59:02 oh wait Jul 13 04:59:21 facebook for iphone is horrid.. Jul 13 04:59:28 yeah Jul 13 04:59:32 facebook is horrid :p Jul 13 04:59:34 it just notified me of a comment that was hours ago, that i already read and deleted the email for Jul 13 04:59:35 but it has chat Jul 13 04:59:43 stfu Jul 13 04:59:51 ; ) Jul 13 04:59:57 dawm: get rid of the iphone? Jul 13 05:00:03 ipod Jul 13 05:00:05 tool Jul 13 05:00:22 you said iphone lol Jul 13 05:00:37 facebook for iphone is horrid.. Jul 13 05:00:39 yeah but they dont call em ipod apps Jul 13 05:00:54 iOS Jul 13 05:01:19 shutUrFace Jul 13 05:01:33 I'll shutMyEyes Jul 13 05:01:38 I'm off to bed lol Jul 13 05:01:41 im about to Jul 13 05:01:41 night all Jul 13 05:01:44 cya Jul 13 05:01:45 sorry patrick Jul 13 05:01:48 hopefully tomorrow Jul 13 05:02:10 fxspec06: ok.. I'll try and maybe work on mine tomorrow Jul 13 05:04:11 laters Jul 13 05:15:11 * NuttyBunny materializes Jul 13 05:15:25 * cxreg casts vanish Jul 13 05:16:21 not a very productive coding day for me Jul 13 05:16:41 it was for me Jul 13 05:16:43 but Jul 13 05:16:49 not at this very second Jul 13 05:18:43 Hi, I have a query related to HTML5 canvas... could anyone help me with this? Jul 13 05:22:15 quad_damage: yeah Jul 13 05:23:52 what is the question? Jul 13 05:25:15 I am drawing an irregular path on a canvas with an image and then clipping it... however, one of the paths is not getting clipped when I call the clip() method... not sure if I am doing something wrong... Jul 13 05:25:32 Here is the sample code... : http://pastebin.com/WfVNbPyC Jul 13 05:26:11 I have drawn a square path with arcs on the edges Jul 13 05:26:50 hi Jul 13 05:28:43 The method I have followed is as follows... draw the image on the canvas... then draw the clipping paths... (all of them)... then call the clip() method... Jul 13 05:29:07 All the paths get clipped except for left edge arc Jul 13 05:30:05 LoneStar99: Thank you for offerring to help... I am a newbie :) Jul 13 05:32:44 ok let me check it out Jul 13 05:33:03 LoneStar99: Thanks :) Jul 13 05:34:10 is the image.png of any importance for testing? Jul 13 05:34:58 The image.png is the one that I am trying to clip... Jul 13 05:35:09 Any image would work... Jul 13 05:35:21 I am using an image of size 800 * 600 Jul 13 05:36:10 ok gonna try it on non-enyo\ Jul 13 05:36:45 Ok... Jul 13 05:37:34 The image I am using is here... incase you need it... http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8690649/image.png Jul 13 05:39:36 ok got one of my own for now thanks Jul 13 05:53:11 quad_damage the image should appear within the box right? Jul 13 05:53:17 cropped? Jul 13 05:57:01 ah i feel like i'm moving backwards. Jul 13 05:57:02 =( Jul 13 06:00:43 Yes, Jul 13 06:00:56 However, one of the paths is not getting clipped.... Jul 13 06:01:47 If you comment the image code and the clip call and use the stroke call instead the path appears to be drawin in the right place but does not get clipped when the clip() method is called. Jul 13 06:02:13 i need help on "zeroconf" using webos enyo framework? Jul 13 06:03:38 quad_damage: ok checking it out, was talking to a cousin about remodeling shit Jul 13 06:04:03 LoneStar99: it is basically a piece of a jigsaw puzzle... Jul 13 06:04:27 trying to cut the individual pieces using the clip() method Jul 13 06:15:38 anyone know what this means Jul 13 06:15:39 cannot use global setinterval from hidden window webos Jul 13 06:18:05 quad_damage: i see a square with 3 half circles is that right? Jul 13 06:18:33 fxspec06: where does that error popup? Jul 13 06:19:47 in my second stage Jul 13 06:20:04 mojo or enyo? Jul 13 06:20:19 Yes, when the stroke is applied that is what I see... but when clip() is applied, the left semi circle is not clipped. Jul 13 06:20:54 mojo Jul 13 06:25:11 only in this one scene i guess. Jul 13 06:25:12 -.- Jul 13 06:25:28 * fxspec06 is having a rough night. but it will be worth it he supposes Jul 13 06:27:34 fxspec06: all my apps are single stage =( Jul 13 06:28:39 yeah Jul 13 06:28:47 and single stage is 1000000000x easier than multistage Jul 13 06:30:41 hey there Jul 13 06:31:41 fxspec06: yeah momma did not let me build multi-stage apps Jul 13 06:32:21 Any one working on Zero Config based apps ? Jul 13 06:35:36 hallooo? Jul 13 06:35:44 Anyone here with a TouchPad? Jul 13 06:35:54 nope sry. Jul 13 06:38:28 negative Jul 13 06:39:02 ahrhgh vasdkj i'm going to bed Jul 13 06:39:26 laters fxspec06 Jul 13 06:40:17 yeah. if i can figure out that error i'll be set. but can't. think. anymore. later lonestar Jul 13 06:56:49 roy-pre101: congrats Jul 13 06:56:56 Thanks Rod Jul 13 06:57:03 Rod, you have a TouchPad, yes? Jul 13 06:57:07 I do Jul 13 07:01:10 roy-pre101: Congrats! See you on Monday. :) Jul 13 07:01:18 :) Jul 13 07:08:18 roy-pre101: what happened? Jul 13 07:09:46 To what? Jul 13 07:10:27 oh i thought u won the lottery =) Jul 13 07:10:29 lol Jul 13 07:14:13 roy-pre101: you still running webos101? Jul 13 07:14:21 yep Jul 13 07:14:37 ok will write some enyo code soon Jul 13 07:14:51 like within the next 24-48 hours Jul 13 07:14:53 LoneStar99: I think dkirker was talking about my upcoming start date at HP. Jul 13 07:15:02 roy-pre101: I was. :) Jul 13 07:15:19 oh ok cool awesome roy-pre101 Jul 13 07:15:27 hello...can somebody help me with this problem? https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=16325 Jul 13 07:15:43 roy-pre101: webos development? Jul 13 07:16:08 zefanja: Intriguing Jul 13 07:16:16 SWAT team Jul 13 07:16:37 roy-pre101: sweet Jul 13 07:16:46 with sugardave =) Jul 13 07:17:34 will write up some enyo widgets on webos101 Jul 13 07:17:45 roy-pre101: ? Jul 13 07:18:00 zefanja: I just thought your problem was interesting. Jul 13 07:18:07 I don't have a solution./ Jul 13 07:18:16 roy-pre101: ok =) Jul 13 07:19:29 OK, new Mosaic is about ready to be submitted. Jul 13 07:59:38 quad_damage: did u get it figured out? Jul 13 10:35:35 [enyo] what's a sizeableCanvas element for? Jul 13 12:40:04 buenas dias commerades Jul 13 12:45:47 hola! Jul 13 12:50:06 anyone know of a input director over IP for webOS? Jul 13 13:07:40 morning all Jul 13 13:18:06 morning Jul 13 13:23:20 Strider5: you mean like synergy-foss.org ? Jul 13 14:04:43 dkirker: what's the news? Jul 13 14:04:57 hmmph. Jul 13 14:05:08 fxspec06: what's wrong? Jul 13 14:05:40 if i swap the scene in the first stage it works. if i push it into a new card it doesn't work. Jul 13 14:06:09 so basically i've gotten nowhere. Jul 13 14:06:44 it's like there's something about the menu scene that's screwing up my chat scene Jul 13 14:08:01 :/ Jul 13 14:08:10 make the chat scene inline for now? Jul 13 14:08:31 no Jul 13 14:08:41 because it still won't work after you leave the scene Jul 13 14:08:43 alright Jul 13 14:08:45 i'll send it Jul 13 14:09:01 because it's blocked right now. as in you really can't leave the scene. lol Jul 13 14:09:28 lol Jul 13 14:09:47 fyi i'll be the only one in the chat room Jul 13 14:09:49 so, if you enter the chat scene, and then leave it, chat doesn't work? or the game? Jul 13 14:09:56 that's fine lol Jul 13 14:10:14 noone else has this version w/ the 'wildnpoker' chatroom Jul 13 14:11:19 4MB.. nice :) Jul 13 14:11:25 lol Jul 13 14:11:31 oh man the formatting is all wrong Jul 13 14:11:45 mayb that could be part of the issue. Jul 13 14:12:14 no its not. nvm. Jul 13 14:12:25 just talked in the chat room Jul 13 14:16:35 anyone knows a terminal command to call 127.0.0.1:1337 address? (node.js webserver) Jul 13 14:16:40 I see what you mean.. it locks you into that scene Jul 13 14:17:21 fxspec06: who's Jerk2? Jul 13 14:43:35 * NuttyBunny_Pre2 looks around Jul 13 14:43:46 * PatrickC slaps NuttyBunny_Pre2 Jul 13 14:44:28 hey! :P Jul 13 14:44:39 :) Jul 13 14:44:43 Andora lol Jul 13 14:44:47 that'll show you for.... looking around? Jul 13 14:45:22 from the forums "I'm assuming that all hands are currently trying to raise the number of apps that are available for the TouchPad for the release date on the 16th. So I'm sure that everyone is now working for Andora to get apps approved." Jul 13 14:45:31 hehehe... I'll look straight for the next time? Jul 13 14:45:59 Andora... hehehe.. that's the reason the apps don't get approved ;) Jul 13 14:46:08 well, that way your face won't run into anyone's hand Jul 13 14:46:38 NuttyBunny_Pre2: yeah lol.. "Andora" Jul 13 14:46:46 argg.. calebration keeps failing... Jul 13 14:47:03 ARGHHHHH i can't figure out why stage 2 keeps failing. Jul 13 14:47:16 ARGH Jul 13 14:47:27 Arg? Jul 13 14:47:27 nothing's failing, I just wanted to be cool too Jul 13 14:47:33 * PatrickC lifts eye patch Jul 13 14:47:47 well, no, my focus is failing Jul 13 14:47:59 I want a touchpad. Jul 13 14:48:38 summatusmentis: My app comes with glasses ;) Jul 13 14:48:54 Tibfib: I need a TouchPad Jul 13 14:49:20 I have a touchpad >_> Jul 13 14:49:41 my app comes with a free 'throw-your-phone-against-a-wall' feature Jul 13 14:51:16 * fxspec06 needs a touchpad Jul 13 14:52:22 twbbas: any news on the bug? Jul 13 14:52:51 my pre comes with a "throw-your-phone-because-dr-battery-doesnt-see-its-plugged-in" feautre Jul 13 14:53:01 Nope. Just that they're trying to get it fixed in time for the OTA update coming later this month. Jul 13 14:53:22 well, that's good Jul 13 14:54:00 Yep Jul 13 14:54:09 what's the best way to launch a second stage Jul 13 14:54:17 and Adora fixed my problem with the in-app item + update not being reviewed in forever Jul 13 14:54:26 Apparently something was wrong in their database Jul 13 14:54:33 So I'm getting them reviewed today :D Jul 13 14:54:39 there's always something wrong :P Jul 13 14:56:29 Man HP Play looks so sweet! Jul 13 14:56:48 I know! Jul 13 14:56:56 now.. I hope it eventually does videos Jul 13 14:57:04 I have Iron Man 2 waiting for my touchpad Jul 13 14:57:09 It's not recognizing that I plugged my TouchPad in though Jul 13 14:57:12 nice Jul 13 14:57:23 digital copy ftw Jul 13 14:57:24 We still have til tomorrow to throw apps for review, right? Jul 13 14:57:27 it is sweet Jul 13 14:57:44 why what's tomorrow Jul 13 14:57:48 NuttyBunny_Pre2: no clue Jul 13 14:57:55 Friday is the "real" launch date Jul 13 14:57:58 the new tp launches on the 16th? Jul 13 14:58:01 Sunday* Jul 13 14:58:16 They haven't announced when the 4G TouchPad will be available Jul 13 14:58:17 twbbas: what do you like about HP Play/ Jul 13 14:58:36 summatusmentis: How good it looks! But... it's not recognizing I plugged my TouchPad in Jul 13 14:59:04 No, but one of the announcements on the (redacted) forum said that we had till thursday if we wanted to reach the 17th launch Jul 13 14:59:27 Makes since I guess Jul 13 14:59:40 twbbas: weird that it's not recognizing it. Jul 13 14:59:44 I submitted my app the Wednesday before July 1st and it was approved Thursday night in time for the July 1st launch Jul 13 15:00:39 I have to stop adding features to mine and throw it as is ;) Jul 13 15:00:52 * twbbas restarted HP Play and it recognizes it now Jul 13 15:01:48 * PatrickC needs to finish school.. so he can work on his app(s) Jul 13 15:02:03 Good morning folks. Jul 13 15:02:33 mornin Jul 13 15:03:12 mornin' Jul 13 15:03:24 I want to go back to sleep. :( Jul 13 15:03:33 ditto Jul 13 15:03:39 i want to fix my stage Jul 13 15:04:39 PatrickC: you've got a ways to go Jul 13 15:04:42 dkirker: what's the news? Jul 13 15:04:53 PatrickC: you'll find out soon. :) Jul 13 15:04:57 Tibfib: I'm talking about 9th grade... Jul 13 15:05:07 dkirker: ok, its soon ;) Jul 13 15:05:08 you haven't finished 9th grade? Jul 13 15:05:17 I'm finishing it up now :/ Jul 13 15:05:24 I slacked off during the year lol Jul 13 15:05:24 I should go get ready. Jul 13 15:05:34 to tell me? ok :P Jul 13 15:05:53 just a little algebra and english left Jul 13 15:06:24 Algebra... I love it :) Jul 13 15:06:50 ugh wtf.. cant upload video to youtube from phone? Jul 13 15:06:56 has error but no descrip Jul 13 15:07:21 you don't knwo what error 4g5kgg00 is off the top of your head? Jul 13 15:07:44 Uh oh, HP Play just froze when I tried to transfer ~200 songs to a playlist Jul 13 15:08:06 im trying to understand the mapping from process to different manager. i can see the "/usr/bin/activitymanager" process running, which would logically map to the Activity Monitor, but what about the Application Manager (https://developer.palm.com/content/api/reference/services/application-manager.html) is that Luna? Jul 13 15:08:07 * twbbas hopes it doesn't crash because he doesn't want to go through each song and click the ones he wants again Jul 13 15:09:48 * fxspec06 var school = 0; for (x = thisClass; x < lastClass; x++){school++;}; Mojo.Controller.errorDialog("PatrickC Sucks * " + school); Jul 13 15:10:29 fxspec06: lol Jul 13 15:10:39 I think there's some erros with your code. Jul 13 15:10:43 idc Jul 13 15:10:45 errors too Jul 13 15:10:49 lol Jul 13 15:11:00 Missing ) and ; Jul 13 15:11:06 i think there's some errors w/ my stage that are more important. Jul 13 15:12:16 like cannot use the global setInterval function from a hidden window. does ANYONE know why this can happen. is it from a setTimeout running in the background card? Jul 13 15:13:38 http://adage.com/article/news/lenovo-takes-product-demo-heights/228675/ .... awesome! Jul 13 15:14:15 * twbbas wishes for a Netflix app to come on July 17th Jul 13 15:14:21 oh wow i guess it is. wtfff. Jul 13 15:15:35 that music is so awesome Jul 13 15:18:13 The stock music app in 3.0 is pretty nice Jul 13 15:18:20 Only thing I wish is for a sleep timer option Jul 13 15:19:18 koto has that I believe Jul 13 15:19:30 * fxspec06 needs to create a DUMMY stage Jul 13 15:20:14 nice Jul 13 15:20:21 phone doesnt ring, doesnt do anything Jul 13 15:20:25 koto....... is incredible Jul 13 15:20:27 but all of a sudden i get a missed call popup Jul 13 15:21:45 sounds like sprint! Jul 13 15:21:54 dawm: sounds like my dads pre Jul 13 15:22:19 people use sleep timers? Jul 13 15:22:27 I never know how long it'll take me to sleep Jul 13 15:22:28 now im waiting for the voicemail Jul 13 15:23:14 summatusmentis: I use sleep time to tell me how long i've been doing something Jul 13 15:23:14 bleh! BLEH! BLEEEHHHH! Jul 13 15:23:32 set it for 60 min, I know when I'm does with X activity Jul 13 15:23:49 PatrickC: oh, see, I should be more rigid about my timing Jul 13 15:23:53 * halfhalo has a fancy tool that does that. its called a watch Jul 13 15:24:12 halfhalo: but a watch doesn't work if you don't look at it Jul 13 15:24:17 I _always_ break watches Jul 13 15:24:19 mine does Jul 13 15:24:48 halfhalo: if you have noise canceling headphones in, and your watch alarm goes off, you hear it? Jul 13 15:24:53 PatrickC: koto does not have that. Jul 13 15:25:03 fxspec06: thanks! Jul 13 15:25:15 it doesnt.. hmm.. I'm thinking of another music player then Jul 13 15:25:16 the only reason koto doesn't have a sleep timer is because I have no idea where I would put it Jul 13 15:25:18 PatrickC: its called not being stupid Jul 13 15:25:29 and I have broken amany watches in my time Jul 13 15:25:50 but the only one I can't really break for a year or so is the like 30 dollar timex ones Jul 13 15:25:51 nowww why the crap is my virtual list not setting up Jul 13 15:25:58 THOSE ARE INDESTRUCTIBLE Jul 13 15:26:24 specifically, the timex ironman. it stops bullets Jul 13 15:27:03 halfhalo: see, I have specific preferences on how a watch looks :( Jul 13 15:27:27 Tibfib: no problem! Jul 13 15:27:40 summatusmentis: yeah. I managed to work my way through the swiss army lineup breaking each one I tried due to the lack of a screw down crown. Now I'm rocking a Sector dive watch that I like Jul 13 15:28:12 halfhalo: nice :) Jul 13 15:28:46 summatusmentis: my goal is to pick up an omega one of these days Jul 13 15:29:31 hmm i guess function Dummy() just won't cut it when webos is expecting DummyAssistant() Jul 13 15:30:06 OMFG it works. <3 Jul 13 15:30:13 woooooooooooooeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Jul 13 15:30:32 send :) Jul 13 15:30:59 hang tight Jul 13 15:31:06 gotta make a boolean or two Jul 13 15:31:22 lol Jul 13 15:31:29 those damn booleans. always in the way Jul 13 15:31:44 wow.. watching TV for 100 min you burn 202 calories hahaha Jul 13 15:32:08 maybe if you're on a treadmill Jul 13 15:32:49 and reading for 100 min you burn 243 :P Jul 13 15:33:10 *from of Fitness Counter Jul 13 15:33:40 those freakin booleans. they're worse than the spartans Jul 13 15:34:05 thats why I set a variable to true, false, or "maybe" instead of just true/false Jul 13 15:34:18 lol Jul 13 15:34:26 maybe............ good one. i think -.- Jul 13 15:35:10 halfhalo: "Delete all user data": "maybe" Jul 13 15:35:23 then have a Math.random function to decide Jul 13 15:35:31 lollllllllllll Jul 13 15:35:42 hahaaaaaa . ... Jul 13 15:35:51 lol Jul 13 15:35:52 * fxspec06 sends TibFib a beer Jul 13 15:36:08 dev n00b looking for some help. I'm trying to create a 3 pane view, where pane 1 will populate a list of times, and each time item should populate the pane 2 with a list of predefined items, and the clicking one of the items in pane 2 should populate Pane 3 with some details. Going out of my mind how to set this up right. This is a basic event schedule app. Jul 13 15:36:35 * Tibfib sends back beer Jul 13 15:36:44 I don't drink :) Jul 13 15:36:51 * halfhalo knows almost nothing about enyo Jul 13 15:37:03 which is sad, come to think about it, Jul 13 15:37:14 hahaha yeah it is Jul 13 15:37:29 * halfhalo will fake it Jul 13 15:37:38 morning all Jul 13 15:38:55 BAH STUPID .render() Jul 13 15:39:49 hmm okay how to call a function on stage activate. Jul 13 15:40:32 if anyone knows... /alwayssomethingelse Jul 13 15:41:12 ... call it from activate()? Jul 13 15:41:32 i did. in the scene. and it doesn't work. should i put in stageController ? Jul 13 15:41:47 dropbox valued at 5billion dollars, how is that... Jul 13 15:41:56 I believe it. Jul 13 15:42:04 i see another docom bubble bursting soon... Jul 13 15:42:20 this time it will be worse... Jul 13 15:42:34 facebook 100billion, you kidding me... Jul 13 15:43:08 that makes perfect sense Jul 13 15:44:11 * cwayne hopes google+ just ruins that Jul 13 15:44:46 our economy is the worst ever now you have market analysts giving dot coms outlandish market valuation, our economy does not have the money for another market failure, this time we will live the great depression Jul 13 15:45:45 it is 1996 again, but hella worse, if all this money is lost on overvalued companies Jul 13 15:46:49 .... anyways, time need to eat some cereal Jul 13 15:49:08 okay for now i'll work around. i can't find stage activation code Jul 13 15:49:47 fxspec06: if it makes you feel better, i have an uphill battle myself with an app Jul 13 15:51:04 i'm in the final stages Jul 13 15:51:09 (hehe pun intended) Jul 13 15:51:24 ok, this scares me Jul 13 15:51:47 OH FLEX HOW I HATE YOU Jul 13 15:51:51 what's that Jul 13 15:51:59 there is a commercial telling you to buy a goat and give it to a third world family Jul 13 15:52:17 why would you not want to do that Jul 13 15:53:15 you're just a crufty goat hater Jul 13 16:07:39 Give a goat. Goats nourish hungry children and families with healthy milk, cheese, and yogurt. Goats also give a much-needed income boost by providing offspring and extra dairy products for sale at the market. Jul 13 16:07:58 * halfhalo wonders what Adora is up to nowadays Jul 13 16:08:04 dawm: bingo! Jul 13 16:08:08 Haven't seen here in here in a while Jul 13 16:08:10 her Jul 13 16:08:32 www.worldvision.org/donate-a-goat Jul 13 16:08:51 heh Jul 13 16:08:58 Give a Goat - Give 2 Chickens - Give 5 Ducks - Give a Sheep Jul 13 16:09:12 * halfhalo goes to poke hp hr Jul 13 16:09:36 But then I just started coming back in here for the first time in months two days ago Jul 13 16:09:40 Since I got my TouchPad Jul 13 16:09:59 the problem is the poor families will never see the goat or chickens... Jul 13 16:11:46 i wanna inspect the goat before i donate it Jul 13 16:13:28 How much do goats go for nowadays? Jul 13 16:13:35 from about 15 billion in donations haiti has only seen about -1% of that money, the rest is in organizations posession... sad but true Jul 13 16:13:39 AtomicPlayboy: 10 chickens Jul 13 16:13:49 apparently $75 Jul 13 16:14:00 i will donate 15 Ak-47s Jul 13 16:14:14 twbbas: At $25/2 chickens, that'd be 6 chickens Jul 13 16:14:25 so they can hunt for the chickens themselves Jul 13 16:15:33 Wouldn't Why not a couple hunting rifles? Jul 13 16:15:36 Hey, speak of the devil. Jul 13 16:16:08 Wouldn't why Jul 13 16:16:10 AtomicPlayboy: ak-47s are cheap Jul 13 16:16:17 I fail at English good Jul 13 16:16:27 hunting rifles are expensive Jul 13 16:16:46 NUUUUKE Jul 13 16:21:43 Why would you want to nuke a goat? Jul 13 16:22:20 lol, Jul 13 16:22:23 why would you not want to nuke a goat? Jul 13 16:23:00 I can think of three reasons Jul 13 16:23:16 nuke it with alot of garlic Jul 13 16:23:23 and curry Jul 13 16:23:23 Oh Jul 13 16:23:27 hah Jul 13 16:23:29 You're talking about microwaving Jul 13 16:24:06 Adora: ping Jul 13 16:24:23 OH GOD SHE IS HERE WE ARE ALL DOOMED! Jul 13 16:24:30 over an open fire with tons of spices and some cold brews =) Jul 13 16:24:54 You microwave over an open fire? Jul 13 16:26:16 open fire better than microwaving a goat, it tastes 100% better Jul 13 16:26:36 So, no nukes Jul 13 16:27:17 http://www.cooks.com/rec/view/0,1627,152185-249201,00.html Jul 13 16:27:39 Oooo that sounds good Jul 13 16:27:49 i am all against nukes and all for AK-47s for hunting =) Jul 13 16:34:59 Bluetooth headphones + TouchPad w/ Beats = epic Jul 13 16:35:24 I didn't know my bluetooth headphones sounded this good :o Jul 13 16:37:02 Are they Beats headphones? Jul 13 16:37:57 nope Jul 13 16:38:03 $30 ones from China Jul 13 16:38:21 (I didn't know they were Chinese ripoffs when I bought them Jul 13 16:38:23 ) Jul 13 16:38:40 h Jul 13 16:38:41 I should have known when they cost $80 everywhere else =\ lol Jul 13 16:38:41 Ah Jul 13 16:38:44 Yep Jul 13 16:38:55 I also got $15 in gift cards to the website I bought them from Jul 13 16:38:59 lol Jul 13 16:39:08 Pame Nand Broducts! Jul 13 16:39:23 www.dinodirect.com they send $15 gift card to their website with every purchase Jul 13 16:39:32 but I don't recommend buying anything from them Jul 13 16:40:31 From the beatsbydre.com website: "BEWARE OF COUNTERFEITS" Jul 13 16:42:06 hey Jul 13 16:42:16 Yo Jul 13 16:42:19 has anyone created a file upload progress indicator before? Jul 13 16:42:31 i dont think you can do it with regular javascript in a browser but can you do it with webos? Jul 13 16:42:46 I wonder why HP didn't give headphones with the TouchPad? Seems like even the cheap Palm earbuds would still show off the beats audio well Jul 13 16:43:41 Well, that was short-lived. Jul 13 16:49:08 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6lwzX5RzGU Jul 13 16:49:09 hahahaha Jul 13 16:56:45 PatrickC: sent Jul 13 16:58:26 damn. this is SICKKKKKKKKKKKKK Jul 13 17:00:23 fxspec06: Stop looking at the code I'm writing Jul 13 17:00:30 lol Jul 13 17:00:39 fxspec06: but seriously, what's SICKKKKKKK? Jul 13 17:00:46 omg and the one thing Jul 13 17:00:50 that i had to work around Jul 13 17:01:00 multi-stages? Jul 13 17:01:24 i can fix by (nearly) doubling the code Jul 13 17:02:04 nice Jul 13 17:02:20 Are there any third-party music apps built for the TouchPad? Jul 13 17:03:50 yeah multistages Jul 13 17:04:32 dawm: that dubstep vid was creappy lpl Jul 13 17:04:34 and idk twbbas Jul 13 17:04:42 which Jul 13 17:05:01 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gXotGSe_JE Jul 13 17:05:09 hot jumping beans Jul 13 17:07:05 * twbbas wonders why Angry Birds Lite is in the TouchPad catalog while Angry Birds HD (full game) is free Jul 13 17:08:35 dawm: ok "hot jumping beans" is creepier lol Jul 13 17:08:44 no way Jul 13 17:08:49 russian unicorn is better Jul 13 17:08:58 u have a link? Jul 13 17:09:11 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjaZNYSt7o0 Jul 13 17:11:12 the best part is when they're on the bed, the words match the lips perfectly even tho its the wrong words Jul 13 17:11:51 watch the original video after its done.. Jul 13 17:12:41 k Jul 13 17:13:10 the original sucks compared to the bad lip reading version Jul 13 17:14:45 some funny shit Jul 13 17:15:02 indeed Jul 13 17:17:07 dawm: well done Jul 13 17:30:02 Anyone know what the touchpad arrow keys get sent as? My keyboard code doesn't seem to work on the touchpad but works fine in Safari. Jul 13 17:30:13 (as in, from the bluetooth keyboard) Jul 13 17:34:02 anyone need a $50 off coupon for any tablet or computer at staples? Jul 13 17:46:48 android must be destroyed? :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQTW7Pd1vqc&feature=related Jul 13 17:52:16 Damn, I missed chuq Jul 13 17:57:21 anyone know if flash is supported in apps on touchpad Jul 13 17:57:25 or how to do Jul 13 17:57:41 Supported, I think so Jul 13 17:57:50 YouTube videos will play, I know that Jul 13 17:58:13 my buddy has .swf and .fla and wants to package in a .ipk Jul 13 18:00:25 Maybe chuqui can answer your question Jul 13 18:00:46 I know nothing. and I'm happy to prove it. Jul 13 18:00:54 lol Jul 13 18:01:13 chuqui: go make hr find me a place to stay so I can start internship on monday. gogogo! Jul 13 18:02:15 halfhalo: on my way Jul 13 18:02:23 chuqui: re: freezing and reboots on the TouchPad - I made a pastepin of /var/log/messages, but it doesn't look like any useful info is in there. Jul 13 18:02:38 Let me know if you want the link Jul 13 18:06:07 fxspec06: I was wondering the same thing about flash Jul 13 18:07:47 Is there a way to unzip a file without using node.js? Jul 13 18:09:57 no freaking clue. Jul 13 18:09:58 lol Jul 13 18:10:09 chuqui: yay! :p Jul 13 18:10:32 is there any way to call a timeout / interval on a background stage without ruining every reference to this. Jul 13 18:11:36 fxspec06: I don't think so, but the best place to ask this is the dev forums, where we can get an engineer to look. Jul 13 18:12:11 hmm alright good idea. Jul 13 18:12:39 hmm I think I'm gonna have to learn how to use a node.js service to do some unzipping =\ Jul 13 18:12:57 welcome to flavor country Jul 13 18:13:02 * twbbas hopes it's easy Jul 13 18:14:16 As long as it isn't bat country Jul 13 18:21:08 fxspec06: backgound stage ? Jul 13 18:22:18 * halfhalo hearts hp employees Jul 13 18:24:05 yeah. my function moveSuits() is wrecking chat. i have to disable it for it to work, otherwise chat is wrecked. Jul 13 18:26:12 Aww I can't connect both my palm pre + my bluetooth headphones to my TouchPad. I wanted to take a call from my Pre on my TouchPad using my headphones, lol Jul 13 18:26:35 twbbas: :-P Jul 13 18:26:38 ya don't think that will work lol Jul 13 18:26:58 you need a AT&T one Jul 13 18:26:59 $$ Jul 13 18:27:11 lol how will that help Jul 13 18:27:13 haeffb: i just got setInterval working... but same thing. i moved the function to -inside- my menu-assistant and when i launch chatroom in the new stage, something is referencing the domwindow Jul 13 18:27:16 well, you can take calls from your pre on your touchpad Jul 13 18:27:26 but when you do that, the touchpad is acting as a bt headset Jul 13 18:27:30 yea Jul 13 18:27:43 I was hoping Pre -> Bluetooth "headset" -> Bluetooth headset Jul 13 18:27:46 I don't think the bt profiles allow for a headset to connect to another headset :) Jul 13 18:28:10 I really want TTS Jul 13 18:28:19 Text To Speech ;) Jul 13 18:28:32 yeah, that's it Jul 13 18:28:33 but yeah, me too Jul 13 18:28:48 I have some ideas for using T2S in my apps Jul 13 18:28:56 (I use T2S after someone said not to use TTS) Jul 13 18:29:01 makes sense Jul 13 18:29:12 there aren't APIs for T2S yet are there? Jul 13 18:29:17 Don't think so Jul 13 18:29:24 * halfhalo calls it tap to share. not touch to share. he is a rebble Jul 13 18:29:24 homebrew can use it for more than urls though Jul 13 18:29:27 fxspec06: do you bind this to the function you call from setTimeout (or setInterval) ? Jul 13 18:29:48 yeah. like this: tO1 = window.setInterval(this.frame.bind(this), speed); Jul 13 18:29:56 becaues it'd be really neat to T2S playlists from one device to another, backed by a central streaming service Jul 13 18:30:07 well that doesn't work. this does: tO1 = this.controller.window.setInterval(this.frame.bind(this), speed); Jul 13 18:30:23 twbbas: that's not complete yet right? Jul 13 18:30:29 I remember seeing those tweets Jul 13 18:31:19 I don't think so Jul 13 18:31:50 I think last I saw it was just conceptual that you could encode other mime-types in the url, then decode them on the other device Jul 13 18:32:59 woah I just found 2 phone apps that are buggy on the TouchPad Jul 13 18:33:13 Ground Effect (PDK) keeps rotating screen every half second and doesn't play Jul 13 18:33:30 Air Traffic Lite (SDK) has the airplanes spinning around as they fly Jul 13 18:34:02 twbbas: cool lol Jul 13 18:34:15 Anyone else have issues after installing apps they don't install until a reboot? Jul 13 18:34:17 I want a full air traffic game :( Jul 13 18:34:24 Strider5: Nope Jul 13 18:34:28 err updating Jul 13 18:34:39 Strider5: still nope Jul 13 18:37:01 I somehow got into a Twitter conversation with people I don't know.. lol Jul 13 18:37:18 that's the beauty of Twitter! Jul 13 18:37:27 hah Jul 13 18:37:30 haha* Jul 13 18:37:38 haha you're so funny Tyler* Jul 13 18:37:41 * PatrickC has an Elvis song stuck in his head... Jul 13 18:37:59 s/haha*/what twbbas said/ Jul 13 18:38:39 * PatrickC bbl Jul 13 18:39:59 Is the legacy $50 discount available on TouchPads bought with the developer discount? Jul 13 18:40:20 probably not Jul 13 18:41:30 I don't see why not Jul 13 18:41:36 you'll still get a receipt Jul 13 18:43:57 what is this "legacy discount" you speak of? Jul 13 18:45:00 If you own(ed) a Pre-, Pre Plus, Pixi, Pixi Plus then you are eligible for a $50 discount on the 32GB TouchPad when bought anywhere. Jul 13 18:45:02 twbbas: the legacy discount doesn't stack with any other discounts Jul 13 18:45:05 It's a mail-in rebate Jul 13 18:45:13 bemjb: Thanks for the confirmation. I figured. Jul 13 18:45:34 orly? Jul 13 18:45:36 hrm Jul 13 18:45:41 I should see about sending mine ine Jul 13 18:45:43 in* Jul 13 18:46:00 well, I'm not sure if the legacy discount itself says that, but the other discounts I've seen DO say they don't stack with any other discount. Jul 13 18:46:35 * twbbas "Selling his Pre-'s serial number to be used for legacy discount. $10!" Jul 13 18:46:40 lol Jul 13 18:46:59 twbbas: I believe it works with the dev discount. its just a mail-in rebate Jul 13 18:47:02 anyone here with a TouchPad and HP wireless printer to test printing capability? Jul 13 18:47:04 ahhh Jul 13 18:47:11 yeah that was a terrible make-do Jul 13 18:47:36 It doesn't solve the problem about our phones =\ Jul 13 18:48:02 it doesn't even make us feel all warm and fuzzy Jul 13 18:48:10 Who knows... maybe they'll be a big discount on the Pre 3 or something when it comes out Jul 13 18:48:17 there'll* Jul 13 18:48:35 chuqui: Does HP have a developer printer program? Jul 13 18:48:39 hahahahah Jul 13 18:48:41 haa Jul 13 18:48:41 awesome. Jul 13 18:48:50 When they make webOS printers, probably! Jul 13 18:48:55 i have a wired printer Jul 13 18:49:03 how am I supposed to test printing from my TouchPad app... ? Jul 13 18:49:21 I have like a 15 yr old HP printer that's not compatible with my TouchPad :( Jul 13 18:49:22 twbbas: big discount on pre3 doesn't get sprint users anything anyway :-/ Jul 13 18:49:47 summatusmentis: Is it possible for HP to sell CDMA Pre 3s to be activated on Sprint's network without Sprint selling the Pre 3? Jul 13 18:49:55 nope Jul 13 18:50:01 nope Jul 13 18:50:02 well... I'm screwed then Jul 13 18:50:07 yep Jul 13 18:50:07 and a lot of other webOS folks Jul 13 18:50:10 well, yes, they can sell them, but sprint doesn't have to activate them Jul 13 18:50:10 yep Jul 13 18:50:26 So CDMA is not like GSM in that way then? Jul 13 18:50:39 twbbas: nope, the ESN has to be in the carrier DB for it to be activated Jul 13 18:50:44 ugh Jul 13 18:51:00 I just don't want to believe that Sprint is done with webOS Jul 13 18:51:02 I may just end up switching Jul 13 18:51:16 I can't switch because we have a family plan with 6 people >.> Jul 13 18:51:20 twbbas: me neither, This Is My Next had an article claiming exclusive info saying it won't happen Jul 13 18:51:28 bah, family plans Jul 13 18:51:28 well... I could but my whole family wouldn't switch Jul 13 18:51:37 Yeah, saw that article Jul 13 18:51:38 see, shouldn't have had a family Jul 13 18:51:49 lol Jul 13 18:51:58 Not my fault I popped out of my Mom Jul 13 18:52:27 haeffb: not right now, no Jul 13 18:52:29 I may have to just buy a Pre 2 and sprintify it Jul 13 18:52:37 The Pre 2 is still a great phone Jul 13 18:52:38 oh, you're not the adult on the family plan Jul 13 18:52:39 I see Jul 13 18:52:44 Haha, yup Jul 13 18:52:45 I might frankenpre2 also Jul 13 18:52:47 depending Jul 13 18:53:01 if I can justify the cost, I might just switch Jul 13 18:53:06 I want T2S Jul 13 18:53:07 badly Jul 13 18:53:12 We get a huge discount with our family plan Jul 13 18:53:19 My line costs $35 for unlimited everything Jul 13 18:53:37 yeah, I'm on SERO, mine costs $40 for 500 mins, unlimited everything else Jul 13 18:53:55 oh yeah we have a mins limit but we never get close to it Jul 13 18:54:08 Sprint with their free mobile->mobile is awesome Jul 13 18:54:16 indeed :) Jul 13 18:54:55 Isn't it not possible to sprintify a Pre 3? Jul 13 18:55:08 I can't imagine it would be possible Jul 13 18:55:24 What's the difference between Pre 3 and Pre 2 that makes it not possible? Jul 13 18:55:29 sounds like the pre3 has a different form factor Jul 13 18:55:36 Oh Jul 13 18:55:54 bigger screen likely means different internal components Jul 13 18:56:18 I don't really know the process of sprintifying. I figured it was just swapping 1 little thing in the phone I guess. Jul 13 19:01:03 different form factor, completely different circuits/comms board sizing Jul 13 19:01:04 * haeffb doesn't understand ActivityManager Jul 13 19:02:30 ActivityManager is only used with note.js (or other) services? Jul 13 19:02:35 node.js Jul 13 19:08:39 twbbas: that's what I'm doing.. re: frankenpre2 Jul 13 19:10:24 twbbas: sprintifying includes taking the comms board off of a sprint phone, and putting it onto another phone... Jul 13 19:14:52 ADORA!!! Jul 13 19:15:02 crap Jul 13 19:15:07 ruh oh Jul 13 19:15:08 * Adora hides Jul 13 19:15:14 https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=16358&p=82377#p82377 Jul 13 19:15:20 OMG Hi adora! Jul 13 19:15:22 * halfhalo blames Adora for everything Jul 13 19:15:29 when can we expect to start hearing back about dev discount???? Jul 13 19:15:32 :O Jul 13 19:15:39 and can we stack legacy discount with dev??? Jul 13 19:15:41 <3 Adora Jul 13 19:15:43 :) Jul 13 19:15:47 PatrickC: "in the coming months" Jul 13 19:15:50 namely, the fact hp can't find me a place to stay Jul 13 19:15:53 fxspec06: everyone does Jul 13 19:15:57 i do more Jul 13 19:16:21 :-D Jul 13 19:16:35 DontBlameAdora: https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=91&t=16345 Jul 13 19:16:52 * funkatron blames Jul 13 19:17:10 * halfhalo blames as well Jul 13 19:17:18 * PatrickC blames Jul 13 19:17:21 follow the croud Jul 13 19:17:22 PatrickC: I dunno on that Jul 13 19:17:30 crowd* Jul 13 19:17:41 following the crowd is overrated Jul 13 19:17:42 * DontBlameAdora sleeps with funkatron's mother Jul 13 19:17:50 hot Jul 13 19:17:51 SO IS FUNKATRON"S MOM Jul 13 19:17:53 DontBlameAdora: ok.. how bout if we can stack legacy discount with dev? Jul 13 19:18:00 yet you keep going back to her! Jul 13 19:18:06 DontBlameAdora: go poke hr for me. gogogo Jul 13 19:18:17 PatrickC: way out of my purview =] Jul 13 19:18:23 lol Jul 13 19:18:30 lol Jul 13 19:18:38 you can poke people to get that answer :) Jul 13 19:18:59 * cwayne thinks PatrickC doesn't know how corporations work Jul 13 19:19:17 I'm not convinced most corporations know how corporations work Jul 13 19:19:27 this is the truth Jul 13 19:19:36 lol Jul 13 19:19:46 cwayne: DontBlameAdora can poke anyone Jul 13 19:19:49 they work slowly Jul 13 19:19:53 REALLY FRIGGIN SLOWLY Jul 13 19:20:18 halfhalo has a grudge Jul 13 19:20:27 halfhalo: MAYBE YOU SHOULD FIND YOUR OWN HOUSING AND STOP SUCKING ON THE TEET OF A BENEVOLANT CORPORATION Jul 13 19:20:33 :o Jul 13 19:20:39 trololololol Jul 13 19:20:40 I'm gonna be done now, this test code isn't gonna write itself Jul 13 19:20:45 Jul 13 19:20:45 * PatrickC backs away from fight Jul 13 19:20:54 * fxspec06 did that a while back Jul 13 19:21:00 PATRICKC Jul 13 19:21:04 did you see my email Jul 13 19:21:06 WHAT?! Jul 13 19:21:08 yes!! Jul 13 19:21:10 OMFG Jul 13 19:21:11 downloaded Jul 13 19:21:12 HOW ABOUT NO?!?!?! I DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO STOP ASKING FOR FREEBIES Jul 13 19:21:14 and Jul 13 19:21:26 i have a new one. that doesn't screw up when you view stats. Jul 13 19:21:37 you need to make every open stage close when the main stage is closed Jul 13 19:21:48 well then aren't we finnicky Jul 13 19:21:54 halfhalo: :) Jul 13 19:21:54 webOS toaster! Jul 13 19:21:56 I closed the main card with villo login open still.. and villo didn't work Jul 13 19:22:03 twbbas: was just thinking that Jul 13 19:22:09 okayy well i will do that then right now Jul 13 19:22:20 i also need to error debug. so Jul 13 19:22:20 lol.. ok? Jul 13 19:22:29 fun.. fun.. Jul 13 19:22:31 new ipk in an hour Jul 13 19:22:42 hi. Jul 13 19:22:45 then LEADERBOARDS then RELEASE Jul 13 19:22:51 that long?!?!?! Jul 13 19:23:00 yeah mcdonalds is on the way Jul 13 19:23:00 * halfhalo shakes his fist! Jul 13 19:23:12 mcdonalds.. ewww Jul 13 19:23:13 i haven't had mcdonalds in like. half a year. Jul 13 19:23:18 Chick-Fil-A Jul 13 19:23:21 soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo goooooooood Jul 13 19:23:21 FTW!!! Jul 13 19:23:40 DontBlameAdora: do you like mcdonalds? Jul 13 19:23:50 DontBlameAdora: want to test printing from a TP app? Jul 13 19:24:18 when did chuq leave? :( Jul 13 19:24:36 chuqui won't give me a free printer, so I have to rely on others to test printing for me Jul 13 19:24:52 haeffb: I would Jul 13 19:24:58 if I had a tp Jul 13 19:25:19 * halfhalo has printer at home. no internets there though Jul 13 19:25:32 does it have to be an HP printer? or can it just be a wireless printer? Jul 13 19:25:35 really? Jul 13 19:25:36 no internets at home?! Jul 13 19:25:43 I thought you had tons of routers there Jul 13 19:25:43 internets aren't required to print Jul 13 19:25:46 like 5? Jul 13 19:25:53 roof is being redone and coax goes across roof Jul 13 19:25:55 summatusmentis: only HP printers are supported Jul 13 19:25:57 "at this time" Jul 13 19:26:03 * fxspec06 has an HP printer Jul 13 19:26:05 yeah, ok, hrm Jul 13 19:26:16 * fxspec06 got one long before HP merged with Palm Jul 13 19:26:43 only relatively recent HP model printers are supported ... ? Jul 13 19:27:15 any wireless are supported? right DontBlameAdora Jul 13 19:27:26 but the eprint is supported def. Jul 13 19:27:54 DontAskAdora: this is what you get when you don't show up on irc for a while Jul 13 19:28:01 "Work is a sure-fire moneymaking scheme" Jul 13 19:28:21 ^^ Dave Ramsey Jul 13 19:28:25 patrickc: okay so i got close all stages done Jul 13 19:28:56 wow.. Jul 13 19:28:59 that was fast Jul 13 19:29:02 lol Jul 13 19:29:08 i needa do couple more things. Jul 13 19:29:23 Has anyone used Villo services in an Enyo app yet? Jul 13 19:29:43 twbbas: I will, eventually.. Jul 13 19:29:51 I need to get more of the app done first Jul 13 19:29:54 It seems like all of their documentation relates to mojo Jul 13 19:30:49 "I'm assuming that all hands are currently trying to raise the number of apps that are available for the TouchPad for the release date on the 16th. So I'm sure that everyone is now working for Andora to get apps approved." Jul 13 19:30:54 "Androa" :P Jul 13 19:31:03 DontBlameAdora: did you change your name? Jul 13 19:31:24 PatrickC: where is this? Jul 13 19:31:43 https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=91&t=15808&p=82307#p82307 Jul 13 19:31:48 lol Jul 13 19:33:39 "Well, if they're waiting for Andora to approve the apps it must be the reason they don't get approved ;) (tip, her name is Adora)" Jul 13 19:33:40 lol Jul 13 19:33:48 yeah haha Jul 13 19:34:15 uhoh.. I see adora on the forum :P Jul 13 19:34:26 i thought it was Androida Jul 13 19:34:32 * fxspec06 is confused ??? Jul 13 19:34:33 haha Jul 13 19:35:12 DontBlameAdora: 39 post.. really? Jul 13 19:35:50 It's not about the quantity, it's about the quality. Just like with webOS apps :D Jul 13 19:35:55 dude, she has a job, not all sorts of free time to spend on the internet because school's not in session :-P Jul 13 19:36:03 lol Jul 13 19:36:11 OOOOOO00000000000HHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhh Jul 13 19:36:25 ^ the human brain strikes again Jul 13 19:36:28 * PatrickC has >430 posts Jul 13 19:36:36 * halfhalo has like 8 Jul 13 19:36:43 * twbbas has like 15 Jul 13 19:36:48 * fxspec06 has like 6 Jul 13 19:36:57 lol Jul 13 19:37:47 I think I might have the most post count here.. Jul 13 19:38:02 not if you count precentral Jul 13 19:38:12 on developer.palm.com Jul 13 19:38:37 http://techcrunch.com/2011/07/13/hitler-also-hates-our-redesign/ nsfwish Jul 13 19:38:58 doesnt that mean you need help the most? =p j/k j/k Jul 13 19:39:06 * cwayne has 6 Jul 13 19:40:18 did yall see when Obama said we have 57 states? hahahaha Jul 13 19:40:27 link? Jul 13 19:40:42 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws&feature=youtube_gdata_player Jul 13 19:40:46 halfhalo: lol Jul 13 19:40:48 there's tons of videos lol Jul 13 19:41:10 and he didn't hold his hand over his heart during the national anthem and pledge one time Jul 13 19:41:28 ^^ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AMxW6EvAmQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player Jul 13 19:41:36 You don't have to hold your hand over your heart for the national anthem Jul 13 19:41:41 PatrickC: that was because obama was counting canada as well. Apparently we are going to annex them soon Jul 13 19:42:32 halfhalo: hah Jul 13 19:42:32 twbbas: well.. still.. the pledge.. Jul 13 19:42:38 I agree with that Jul 13 19:42:49 I BET SARAH PALIN WOULD MAKE FEWER MISTAKES Jul 13 19:42:49 halfhalo: lol Jul 13 19:42:50 lol Jul 13 19:42:58 * halfhalo hasn't said the pledge in YEARS Jul 13 19:43:01 * twbbas same Jul 13 19:43:06 * cwayne forgot it existed Jul 13 19:43:10 * twbbas same Jul 13 19:43:18 seems kinda cultish now doesnt it Jul 13 19:43:36 I haven't said the pledge since.... 5th grade? Jul 13 19:43:41 wow Jul 13 19:43:42 something something something under god something something something terrorists. Thats all I remember Jul 13 19:43:51 lol terrorists Jul 13 19:43:58 they updated it Jul 13 19:43:59 at least you remembered God :) Jul 13 19:44:01 hahaha Jul 13 19:44:06 psh, god Jul 13 19:44:13 the part that ws introduced in the 50's Jul 13 19:44:21 luls Jul 13 19:45:19 * halfhalo doesn't believe in god Jul 13 19:45:36 * PatrickC does Jul 13 19:45:50 DAMNNNN http://www.webos101.com/Code_Snippets Jul 13 19:45:55 that's some good stuff right thurrr Jul 13 19:46:08 ^ Jul 13 19:46:24 fxspec06: yeah.. that's been there for a while :P Jul 13 19:46:40 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Jul 13 19:46:47 * fxspec06 believes in that which he doth believeth in Jul 13 19:46:58 haeffb: coooooooorrrrrrrect Jul 13 19:47:16 you forgot terrorists Jul 13 19:47:24 PatrickC: doesn't mean you can't learn something from it Jul 13 19:47:29 and justice for all. Except terrrorists. Jul 13 19:47:34 there you go Jul 13 19:47:39 Quadratic Formula :) Jul 13 19:47:43 damn terrorists all up in our grill Jul 13 19:47:53 fxspec06: true.. :) Jul 13 19:48:23 Anyone else pumped to see where webOS will be in a year? Jul 13 19:48:36 the toilet? Jul 13 19:48:40 * haeffb hopes its still on my phone. Jul 13 19:48:41 Hope not Jul 13 19:48:44 "webOS autoflusher 2000!" Jul 13 19:48:52 Read RSS feeds while pooping Jul 13 19:49:04 oh no... we're getting back to the webOS in the bathroom stall conversation... Jul 13 19:50:06 now you can IRC from the crapper!!! Jul 13 19:50:18 or unclog a toilet with the push of a button on your phone Jul 13 19:50:18 so when are we gonna see webos toilets Jul 13 19:50:37 oh my... touch to share Jul 13 19:50:40 >.> Jul 13 19:50:52 touch to share... the germs! Jul 13 19:50:58 hahaha Jul 13 19:51:19 I really hope webOS becomes big after they put it on computers Jul 13 19:51:25 I can see a lot of potential there Jul 13 19:51:45 Add in touch-to-share on the HP laptops and it's a go Jul 13 19:51:55 and availability to purchase a usb touch-to-share dongle Jul 13 19:51:59 bingo! Jul 13 19:52:55 c'mon ebay seller.. ship!!! Jul 13 19:53:04 twbbas: I hope they actually do something cool with putting it on computers, rather than just "we plug in to chrome!" Jul 13 19:53:13 I want something actually seamless Jul 13 19:53:19 Yup, me too Jul 13 19:53:19 yeah Jul 13 19:53:23 make it dualboot Jul 13 19:53:28 no no no Jul 13 19:53:40 with full T2S support, integration, palm profile, etc. Jul 13 19:53:41 I don't want dualboot weBOS Jul 13 19:53:43 no, I want it to integrate into my desktop OS Jul 13 19:53:48 ^ Jul 13 19:54:06 it should be equivalent to Google stuff, except better Jul 13 19:54:12 Yes! Jul 13 19:54:46 webOS integrates with your desktop!* Jul 13 19:54:54 *only Linux is supported Jul 13 19:55:05 they have announced it'll work with Windows Jul 13 19:55:11 and it'll be its own window inside of Windows Jul 13 19:55:15 lol.. I was kidding :P Jul 13 19:55:17 I know Jul 13 19:55:18 let me T2S things, swipe cards between devices, have acccess to all my stuff from pretty much any app, etc. Jul 13 19:55:38 I don't want it to be it's own window :( Jul 13 19:55:43 Swipe a card down on any webOS device and a popup appears "Swipe to which device?" Jul 13 19:55:50 That's my idea for it Jul 13 19:55:53 yes, exactly Jul 13 19:55:56 that'd be awesome Jul 13 19:56:00 yes! Jul 13 19:56:01 i want to be able to put my phone next to my stove and then say 'cook chicken', then pick it up and take a crap and say 'view today's funnies' then walk to my computer and say 'watch sportscenter and sync' Jul 13 19:56:06 and have it appear from the bottom on the device you swiped it to Jul 13 19:56:06 DontBlameAdora: take note Jul 13 19:56:38 "Swipe-To-Share" Jul 13 19:56:52 ^ Jul 13 19:56:56 "Snipe-to-share" Jul 13 19:56:59 :o Jul 13 19:57:01 going mobile. later. Jul 13 19:57:03 webOS in snipers? Jul 13 19:57:10 twbbas: yes!! Jul 13 19:57:25 "Leaving. But not on a jet plane" hahaha Jul 13 19:57:29 yeah I saw that too lol Jul 13 19:57:30 so random Jul 13 19:57:33 webOS in jets Jul 13 19:57:43 webOS EVERYWHERE!!!! mwahaaha Jul 13 19:57:50 okay crap i wanted to do something and i forgot Jul 13 19:57:53 patrickC help me Jul 13 19:58:01 you wanted to give me $1000 Jul 13 19:58:08 was just about to say something similar... Jul 13 19:58:13 lol Jul 13 19:58:20 You wanted to write a Netflix app Jul 13 19:58:27 i did but i don't have that much Jul 13 19:58:30 and give me your touchpad Jul 13 19:58:33 and i would but i don't have the code Jul 13 19:58:37 I take a checl Jul 13 19:58:40 and i would but i don't have one Jul 13 19:58:40 ckeck* Jul 13 19:58:44 check* Jul 13 19:58:48 3rd time's a charm Jul 13 19:58:48 and i don't have a bank account Jul 13 19:59:00 I take cars too Jul 13 19:59:09 * halfhalo only takes certain cars Jul 13 19:59:15 and computers, pretty much anything that adds up to $1000 Jul 13 19:59:16 well then no. screw that. can't have my car Jul 13 19:59:21 under 10 items Jul 13 19:59:25 what kinda car? Jul 13 19:59:51 * twbbas hates seeing the enyo gray screen of death Jul 13 19:59:56 halfhalo: has a beast toyota suv Jul 13 19:59:57 nissan sentra '07 Jul 13 20:00:03 (black, of course) Jul 13 20:00:04 twbbas: YES! I hate that too Jul 13 20:00:14 * halfhalo wants 2011 M3 Convertible Jul 13 20:00:22 fxspec06: nice.. I want a '71 Trans-Am Jul 13 20:00:26 black Jul 13 20:00:47 * fxspec06 wants red '67 shelby cobra gt Jul 13 20:00:55 my proposal in spanish is ready to go. Jul 13 20:01:02 (but who didn't see that coming) ... Jul 13 20:01:08 ACTION  Jul 13 20:01:10 * halfhalo will settle for a gt500 convertible. or a 2011 335i Conv. Jul 13 20:01:30 gt500? Jul 13 20:01:32 bmw m5 here =) Jul 13 20:01:35 GT500KR please Jul 13 20:01:52 or a 2001 volvo s70 T5 AWD Jul 13 20:02:33 * cwayne will stick with his 2010 mustang Jul 13 20:02:42 mmmm.... volvo.... Jul 13 20:03:22 2.5L steel block inline 5 + turbocharger putting out 244HP in a car that weights more than a house Jul 13 20:04:19 I have a friend with a '81 'stang (I think that's the year) that puts out over 1000BHP Jul 13 20:04:52 * halfhalo needs airbags with the way he drives Jul 13 20:04:56 damn Jul 13 20:05:06 * halfhalo also may have gotten his old volvo 850 to its top speed Jul 13 20:05:19 lol Jul 13 20:07:05 need to get back to states so i can buy a new ride... Jul 13 20:09:14 i almost bought a '96 mustang w/ 4.6L engine rebuilt in mint condition Jul 13 20:11:46 "$50: If you've previously bought a webOS phone, check here for details on a rebate offer for the 32 GB TouchPad." Jul 13 20:12:23 PatrickC: what proof do you need? Jul 13 20:12:31 proof? Jul 13 20:13:03 I was just saying.. and I hope it works with the dev discount... //cc DontBlameAdora ;) Jul 13 20:13:59 * halfhalo lulz Jul 13 20:14:37 nah i mean Jul 13 20:14:44 do you need just like a serial number Jul 13 20:14:58 yeah.. Jul 13 20:15:00 or do you need a receipt, cus thats long fuckin gone Jul 13 20:15:02 lunch time Jul 13 20:15:18 serial iirc Jul 13 20:15:46 halfhalo: lol so you could just buy a broken one on ebay for $10 for a $50 discount Jul 13 20:16:08 yep Jul 13 20:16:33 serial and receipt from tp purchase Jul 13 20:37:26 how do i make a notification appear Jul 13 20:37:27 in emulator Jul 13 20:37:33 real quick the e z est way Jul 13 20:37:54 1,000 points to whoever gets it Jul 13 20:40:00 can I trade the points in for a stuffed animal/ Jul 13 20:40:28 time's up Jul 13 20:40:39 the correct answer was: transfer to phone Jul 13 21:05:35 harro guys Jul 13 21:05:43 Popple3: hey Jul 13 21:06:10 any way I can mount my Pre 2 without logging into my palm profile and putting a SIM in it? Jul 13 21:06:19 devmode? Jul 13 21:06:39 need to put a SIM in, and I'm lazy Jul 13 21:06:43 :P Jul 13 21:06:50 no you don't Jul 13 21:07:03 how do I put it in dev mode so? O.o Jul 13 21:07:11 emergency call, put it ##DEVMODE## using the on screen keypad Jul 13 21:07:18 can't emergency call without a SIM Jul 13 21:07:27 halfhalo: emergency call isn't needed Jul 13 21:07:44 Popple3: hit the # button on the physical keyboard 2 times Jul 13 21:07:47 halfhalo: Also, isn't that for CDMA phones :P Jul 13 21:07:54 oh snap. forgot about that Jul 13 21:07:59 Popple3: #*DEVMODE# Jul 13 21:08:12 PatrickC: <3 Jul 13 21:08:13 thanks Jul 13 21:08:14 lol Jul 13 21:08:18 Popple3: 99% sure #* is cdma Jul 13 21:08:30 halfhalo: ## is CDMA Jul 13 21:08:33 #* is GSM Jul 13 21:08:38 100% sure Jul 13 21:08:43 halfhalo: What PatrickC said, #* worked Jul 13 21:08:44 * halfhalo has to many phones to keep track of that Jul 13 21:09:33 I've never used #*DEVMODE# and I still knew that :P Jul 13 21:09:50 I've always used the konami code Jul 13 21:09:51 I just have one phone. Just one... my precious. *shifty eyes* Jul 13 21:10:09 * PatrickC has 4 Jul 13 21:10:10 I haz 9... Jul 13 21:10:14 gonna have 5 soon Jul 13 21:10:17 * Popple3 has a problem Jul 13 21:10:24 * halfhalo has.... many Jul 13 21:10:45 I got 4 of those phones for free though Jul 13 21:10:54 * halfhalo whistles Jul 13 21:10:57 won 3 of them in competitions, and the dev pre 2 Jul 13 21:11:04 * PatrickC got 4 for free Jul 13 21:11:08 * Popple3 can't whistle :( Jul 13 21:12:19 I just hope I can activate this pre I just bought Jul 13 21:12:28 the touchscreen is broke Jul 13 21:12:36 but clean ESN Jul 13 21:12:56 Just to be sure, there's nothing I _need_ to keep on my media partition after doctoring my phone, is there? Jul 13 21:13:10 no? Jul 13 21:13:16 oh wait, I need those wallpapers :P Jul 13 21:13:17 the doctor fixes everything Jul 13 21:13:17 +n Jul 13 21:13:24 +n? lol Jul 13 21:13:36 funkatron: Spaz rocks Jul 13 21:13:43 I'm glad to hear it 8) Jul 13 21:13:54 funkatron: Spaz sucks Jul 13 21:13:56 * Popple3 runs Jul 13 21:14:00 that's true Jul 13 21:14:03 lol Jul 13 21:14:05 Popple3: buy a shirt Jul 13 21:14:07 and its the only real twitter client that's free lol Jul 13 21:14:14 ah no, Spaz rocks Jul 13 21:14:36 I was gonna try carbon/phnx.. but not if I have to buy them.. lol Jul 13 21:14:58 isn't it like $2? Jul 13 21:15:10 I suppose when you get older that is less of an issue Jul 13 21:15:30 yeah.. Jul 13 21:15:31 I eventually got phnx when I figured out a roundabout way of getting paid apps Jul 13 21:15:35 my money is for a tp Jul 13 21:15:45 Popple3: warz?? O_o Jul 13 21:15:52 PatrickC: Nope Jul 13 21:15:59 good Jul 13 21:16:06 whew Jul 13 21:17:34 PatrickC: Doctored me Pre- to 2.1, used Impostah to log out of my profile on my Pre 2 without wiping, signed into my Pre-, bought apps, signed out of my Pre-, used Impostah to log back into my Pre 2 without rebooting/wiping, and then used Impostah's catalog installation function to install paid apps Jul 13 21:17:53 * Popple3 really shouldn't have to go through that to buy a few paid apps -__- Jul 13 21:17:54 lol Jul 13 21:18:08 is the webos source on the tp posted up anywhere? or do you just have to grab from the device? Jul 13 21:18:19 doctor Jul 13 21:18:30 webos-internals.org has it Jul 13 21:19:04 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Webos_Doctor_Versions Jul 13 21:19:04 Flashpass_work, http://opensource.palm.com/packages.html Jul 13 21:19:15 the doctor does not have the source Jul 13 21:19:23 what do you mean? Jul 13 21:19:54 the doctor has a finished build of webOS that's ready to be installed onto a device, it doesn't actually have the source for any of the packages Jul 13 21:20:12 though with lots of things being written in JS... well you can browse all that stuff Jul 13 21:20:19 3.0 isn't on there yet Jul 13 21:20:30 * twbbas is confused what the difference between source and doctor is Jul 13 21:20:48 so the technical answer to Flashpass_work's question is "no" Jul 13 21:21:07 Blah, manually deleting stuff when I could've just done a full erase Jul 13 21:21:07 derp Jul 13 21:21:14 lol Jul 13 21:21:37 Right, now to call HP tomorrow and tell them to fix my wifi :P Jul 13 21:21:49 no! Jul 13 21:22:02 or, you know, just give me a new phone, so I can activate it in such a way that gives me app catalog :P Jul 13 21:22:11 double no! Jul 13 21:22:15 O_O Jul 13 21:22:18 but but.... Jul 13 21:22:20 tripple no! Jul 13 21:22:23 :o Jul 13 21:22:36 * halfhalo just likes saying no Jul 13 21:22:44 halfhalo's answer is gonna be no to everything till he gets his house Jul 13 21:22:46 no you don't Jul 13 21:22:57 halfhalo: Want a million bucks? Jul 13 21:23:01 not house, apartment for the length of internship Jul 13 21:23:03 Popple3: yes Jul 13 21:23:10 ............... damn.... Jul 13 21:23:18 haha Jul 13 21:23:24 well, I never said I was gonna give you it, so bleh :P Jul 13 21:23:34 Popple3: now, buck him 1,000,000 times Jul 13 21:23:42 or not... Jul 13 21:23:51 that's 1 million bucks lol Jul 13 21:24:09 HP will give you it. If you sell a 99 cent app 1.44m times. Jul 13 21:24:10 Jul 13 21:24:22 1.44m? Jul 13 21:24:32 HP takes 30% Jul 13 21:24:40 Damn Jul 13 21:25:00 so each webOS user has to buy it 10 times Jul 13 21:25:04 ^ Jul 13 21:25:38 Or sell a $1.44m app once Jul 13 21:25:42 your choice Jul 13 21:25:54 lol Jul 13 21:26:03 * twbbas makes a $1.44m app Jul 13 21:26:08 * twbbas gets "operating billing" Jul 13 21:26:10 YES! Jul 13 21:26:15 that reminds me Jul 13 21:26:16 operator* Jul 13 21:26:19 * Popple3 checks lotto ticket Jul 13 21:26:32 Popple3: winnar? Jul 13 21:26:35 losar Jul 13 21:26:55 I'm gonna go with the probability that twbbas is right :P Jul 13 21:27:31 but that's not fun Jul 13 21:27:41 and twbbas was indeed right Jul 13 21:27:49 * Popple3 throws ticket across room Jul 13 21:28:27 lol Jul 13 21:28:49 * Popple3 really shouldn't waste his money... Jul 13 21:29:05 every lotto ticket is a winner... but most of the time it's the state that wins Jul 13 21:29:25 lol Jul 13 21:29:42 local clubs and charities always win here though :D Jul 13 21:29:46 :P Jul 13 21:29:59 "32c of every ?1 goes to good causes" Jul 13 21:30:01 halfhalo: where are you going to be working and how long? Jul 13 21:30:22 dwc-: the company formerly known as palm for about 6 weeks Jul 13 21:30:42 So I'm the winnar! Jul 13 21:30:42 6 weeks is it? Jul 13 21:30:48 which location? Jul 13 21:30:53 timing sucks, but its better than nothing Jul 13 21:30:54 that's a short internship... Jul 13 21:31:00 dwc-: sunnyvale Jul 13 21:31:08 * twbbas is jealous of halfhalo Jul 13 21:31:16 it'll probably take a couple days before you get email and a badge and etc anyways Jul 13 21:31:17 * PatrickC is too Jul 13 21:31:19 j/k Jul 13 21:31:30 I wouldn't bother looking for an apartment then Jul 13 21:31:40 halfhalo@palm.com Jul 13 21:31:44 just sleep at HP Jul 13 21:31:46 residence hotel sort and a monthly/weekly rate or so Jul 13 21:32:56 and then oil@hp-palm.com Jul 13 21:33:05 and eventually twbbas@hp.com Jul 13 21:33:15 lol Jul 13 21:33:30 HAHAH Jul 13 21:33:37 PatrickC: all palm emails have their actual names Jul 13 21:33:39 * oil has no plans to work for hp Jul 13 21:33:39 oh, I forgot the dawm@hpalm.com Jul 13 21:33:45 it is not adora @ palm Jul 13 21:33:46 what Jul 13 21:33:56 Tibfib: I know.. I was joking... Jul 13 21:34:04 lies Jul 13 21:34:06 no, its andora@palm Jul 13 21:34:07 probably first_last@hp.com Jul 13 21:34:18 sure Jul 13 21:34:27 * dwc- had first_last2@hp.com Jul 13 21:34:33 stupid guy in singapore with same name Jul 13 21:34:39 lol Jul 13 21:34:43 what device runs webOS 2.1.1? Jul 13 21:34:44 dwc-: did you used to work at palm? Jul 13 21:34:50 no, HP Jul 13 21:35:03 RagingMind: veer iirc Jul 13 21:35:04 oh, what for? Jul 13 21:35:08 dwc-: srsly?? awesome Jul 13 21:35:12 I thought the veer had 2.1.2 Jul 13 21:35:27 there's 2.1.1 and 2.1.2 on the opensource site Jul 13 21:35:31 extended internship... 10 years ago Jul 13 21:35:36 nice Jul 13 21:35:43 dwc-: still have the email? lol Jul 13 21:35:49 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaaCq7ELGZk Jul 13 21:35:52 somehow I doubt it... Jul 13 21:36:06 and even if I did, I wouldn't have a clue how to access it. Jul 13 21:36:18 mail.hp.com always works Jul 13 21:36:20 When I was there, there was no webmail, and the VPN was fairly restricted Jul 13 21:36:25 DontBlameAdora: can tell you :) Jul 13 21:36:33 I wish I still had my apple email, that was nifty Jul 13 21:36:35 lol Jul 13 21:36:43 RagingMind: you worked for apple? Jul 13 21:37:01 and all external access required a secure id token, which a lowly intern like me didn't have :) Jul 13 21:37:11 PatrickC, no... I worked for a company that apple contracted to provide support for some of their products Jul 13 21:37:29 can you get me a discount on a mac? :P Jul 13 21:37:37 heh, no Jul 13 21:37:42 lol Jul 13 21:38:04 I think I get a small discount on things still, but I never got the apple employee discount Jul 13 21:38:29 the employee discount is nice Jul 13 21:38:35 I think its a decent sized one Jul 13 21:38:41 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Webos_Doctor_Versions#Veer (o2 veer it looks like had 2.1.1) Jul 13 21:39:04 15%, limited number of 25% per year Jul 13 21:39:15 at least, that's what I remember hearing from apple employee friends Jul 13 21:39:59 25% off a MBP is still good Jul 13 21:40:40 wouldn't you rather have 20% off a touchpad at the hp webos store Jul 13 21:40:53 id rather have 50% off Jul 13 21:41:01 better get crackin' then Jul 13 21:41:05 * PatrickC wishes/hopes he was/is a black belt Jul 13 21:41:31 hoping my >430 posts helps me Jul 13 21:41:32 lol Jul 13 21:42:30 PatrickC: quality, not quantity my friend Jul 13 21:42:45 most are quality Jul 13 21:42:50 ok javascript gurus out there Jul 13 21:42:52 im a Senior Forum Member.. Jul 13 21:42:57 PuffTheMagic: not me Jul 13 21:43:05 PatrickC: you and 50% of the people on the forums Jul 13 21:43:09 im trying to write some files that have unicode/utf-8 in the filenames Jul 13 21:43:14 this seems to be breaking things Jul 13 21:43:21 is there any way to sanitize the filenames Jul 13 21:43:24 Tibfib: there's like 60 people out of 10s of thousands Jul 13 21:43:40 like convert symbols with access to the ascii form with out the accent Jul 13 21:43:46 10s of thousands have never posted Jul 13 21:44:02 ok.. well, at least 1000 are active members Jul 13 21:44:15 and out of them ~60-70 are senior forum members Jul 13 21:46:33 PuffTheMagic: not easily Jul 13 21:46:47 converting the non-ascii chars to something like an underscore is pretty easy Jul 13 21:47:08 converting to a localized ASCII version would require a comprehensive mapping Jul 13 21:47:51 depends on what you mean by 'sanitize' Jul 13 21:47:55 try punycode :D Jul 13 21:47:56 well something is definately breaking the writing of files Jul 13 21:48:07 PuffTheMagic: thats fine, and it's possible that's it Jul 13 21:48:08 you can turn everything that isn't 7-bit clean into an escaped version a la URIs Jul 13 21:48:13 if i just use their sha1 hash of the file all the files get written Jul 13 21:48:28 using hash as filename i mean Jul 13 21:48:33 basically: don't write the filenames with non-ascii chars into it Jul 13 21:48:43 thats what im trying to avoid Jul 13 21:48:54 but converting, say, and accented "a" into a non-accented "a" will require some sort of mapping Jul 13 21:48:54 but i still want to names understandable if possible Jul 13 21:49:13 i just figured there would be some lib/code to do this already Jul 13 21:49:22 try a URI escaper Jul 13 21:49:31 PuffTheMagic: palm has this code for db8 stuff Jul 13 21:49:38 encodeURI() perhaps Jul 13 21:49:40 lemme find it Jul 13 21:49:50 mmmm yeah, encode like that would prob work Jul 13 21:49:53 you can search and define whether it ignores accents Jul 13 21:50:07 but the escaping won't be "readable" either Jul 13 21:50:09 maybe: http://www.google.com/search?aq=0&oq=javascript+convert+utf-8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=javascript+convert+utf-8+to+ascii Jul 13 21:50:37 bl Jul 13 21:50:39 bbl* Jul 13 21:50:44 but, if you're writing files, you also need to be careful writing out files with / and . in them, e.g. Jul 13 21:51:28 PuffTheMagic: https://developer.palm.com/content/api/reference/data-types/db8.html#IndexPropClause see collate Jul 13 21:51:43 sooo there's probably some code in webOS to do what you want Jul 13 21:53:28 Tibfib, thanks Jul 13 21:53:31 i will look for it Jul 13 21:53:39 encodeURIComponent('hi;&../µ“') Jul 13 21:53:52 hi%3B%26..%2F%C2%B5%E2%80%9C Jul 13 21:54:02 that is not useful Jul 13 21:54:17 makes it safe :p Jul 13 21:54:26 PatrickC: do you want 0.7.1 Jul 13 21:54:57 PuffTheMagic: underscore would be easiest Jul 13 21:55:22 it's more readable than a hash for a name, and as long as those characters aren't too common it'd still be readable Jul 13 21:55:34 what exactly are you doing with the filenames? Jul 13 21:55:53 im trying to write files Jul 13 21:56:02 which means i have to name them Jul 13 21:56:22 so i am using meta from the file to name them Jul 13 21:56:48 and some of that metadata seems to have chars that break the write process Jul 13 21:56:54 or breaks something about my plugin Jul 13 21:56:58 so you're pulling, say, id3 tags of artist, album, name? Jul 13 21:57:09 and writing out a artist-album-name.mp3 or something? Jul 13 21:57:17 pdfs Jul 13 21:57:31 year_author_title.pdf Jul 13 21:57:55 PuffTheMagic: just go with an underscore, people won't be angry or anything Jul 13 21:58:07 only if there's no collisions! Jul 13 21:58:11 I think lots of people have seen it Jul 13 21:58:23 year-author-title with _'s Jul 13 21:58:30 or year_author_title with something else Jul 13 21:58:40 if I go with an uderscore, i would still need a list of all the diacritics Jul 13 21:58:44 which is 1/2 way to a map Jul 13 21:58:46 * dwc- puts "../../../../etc/passwd" in PDF author fields Jul 13 21:58:56 PuffTheMagic: do a regex for not a letter nor number Jul 13 21:59:26 but then foo_15 == foo#15 Jul 13 22:00:33 here we go diacritics Jul 13 22:00:39 http://lehelk.com/2011/05/06/script-to-remove-diacritics/ Jul 13 22:01:50 hey that's helpful Jul 13 22:02:00 I had that issue with a gmail client I was considering writing Jul 13 22:02:04 * dwc- hands you a research paper written by a chinese russian jew ;) Jul 13 22:04:20 * fxspec06 will send a pre-release beta to the first two people to say I AM A GIANT ROOSTER with the ME IRC command Jul 13 22:04:39 * dwc- thinks fxspec06 is a giant rooster Jul 13 22:04:59 ............ one down one left Jul 13 22:05:11 beta of what? Jul 13 22:05:21 Wild'n Video Poker Jul 13 22:05:23 don't you just want to see his giant ... rooster? Jul 13 22:05:39 for pre / pre plus / pre 2 Jul 13 22:05:41 PuffTheMagic: is the filename important? Jul 13 22:05:55 or do you just need different sane filenames? Jul 13 22:06:08 I'm a fan of giant roosters, but not of poker Jul 13 22:07:59 one more copy left Jul 13 22:08:06 going once....... Jul 13 22:08:40 going twice............................... Jul 13 22:09:03 what app are you trying to sell here anyway? :D Jul 13 22:09:05 stbuehler, yes the name is important, how else will people know what thy are looking at Jul 13 22:09:23 the best video poker game ever made.. Jul 13 22:09:31 w/ villo chat room Jul 13 22:10:38 last call for anyone who wants to test..... Jul 13 22:11:52 * fxspec06 thinks you all bums for not wanting free copy of game (except for dwc-) Jul 13 22:12:13 what?, I didn't follow the directions even Jul 13 22:12:23 lol Jul 13 22:12:35 well if u dont want then i dont have to send it. Jul 13 22:13:43 =\ Jul 13 22:14:32 fxspec06, I think a good poker app would do very well, it's the sort of thing my mom or BF would download and play Jul 13 22:14:34 when I typed it, I wasn't volunteering, I don't volunteer to test things unless I know what they are. though, now that you've said what it is, it's not something I would mind trying, but don't expect me to sign up for villo chat Jul 13 22:14:48 there just don't seem to be that many poker players in here today Jul 13 22:15:31 * dwc- hates signing up for random crap Jul 13 22:16:27 yeah not a whole lot. but there's also not a whole lot of good poker apps, for any platform Jul 13 22:16:31 IMO Jul 13 22:16:50 what kind of poker is it? 5 card draw? Jul 13 22:19:06 yep Jul 13 22:19:43 fxspec06: rooster chickken thing Jul 13 22:19:47 I'lll check it out Jul 13 22:19:49 5 card draw... you can choose non-wildcard or wildcards.. tracks your stats for each hand, and you try to level up Jul 13 22:19:59 fxspec06: tibfib1 at gmail Jul 13 22:20:01 * fxspec06 TIBFIB wins the second Jul 13 22:21:02 tib i got u as tibfib94 Jul 13 22:23:19 either works.. Jul 13 22:24:19 k Jul 13 22:25:17 sent Jul 13 22:44:42 * NuttyBunny steals PatrickC's Pre- from the mailbox Jul 13 22:54:21 Yes! Jul 13 22:54:29 Spotify is probably coming to the US tomorrow! Jul 13 22:54:43 * twbbas has waited for this moment for over 2 years Jul 13 23:04:04 fxspec06: ping Jul 13 23:04:56 fxspec06: yes I do Jul 13 23:05:06 twbbas: spotify? Jul 13 23:05:22 hey pat Jul 13 23:06:13 yes I'll take 0.7.1 Jul 13 23:06:14 :) Jul 13 23:06:17 sent Jul 13 23:06:19 * NuttyBunny steals PatrickC's Pre- from the mailbox (again) Jul 13 23:06:31 PatrickC: Never heard of Spotify? Jul 13 23:06:46 NuttyBunny: why?! Jul 13 23:06:49 twbbas: nope Jul 13 23:07:07 PatrickC: It's the best thing to happen to music since... iPods? Jul 13 23:07:08 PatrickC: I need the front, I'll return you just the commboard ;) Jul 13 23:07:19 NuttyBunny: lol Jul 13 23:07:22 i need to think of a way to do high scores Jul 13 23:07:23 PatrickC: you know grooveshark? Jul 13 23:07:25 I thought you got one? Jul 13 23:07:28 twbbas: yep Jul 13 23:07:45 fxspec06: I believe Villo does leaderboards Jul 13 23:08:00 PatrickC: it's running through the standard mail delivery system, so I think it'll take another week at least :( Jul 13 23:08:09 PatrickC: It's like the but professional/legal. All songs are from the record companies themselves (no duplicates), has a mobile and desktop app, and offline cache. Jul 13 23:08:13 same with mine Jul 13 23:08:18 PatrickC: It's been in Europe for years now Jul 13 23:08:32 and how much is it? Jul 13 23:08:45 pat: i know it does leaderboards. i'm wondering how to present them Jul 13 23:08:54 PatrickC: Free for desktop-only with ads. No word on price yet but prob $10/mo for mobile + no ads + offline cache Jul 13 23:09:10 fxspec06: with a "High Scores" section? Jul 13 23:09:12 twbbas: cool Jul 13 23:09:14 PatrickC: You can create playlists, sync between all devices... pretty good Jul 13 23:09:19 is it already on webos? Jul 13 23:09:23 in europe? Jul 13 23:09:24 PatrickC: for Europe, yes Jul 13 23:09:37 Popple3: how much is Spotify? Jul 13 23:09:40 damn, that's as exciting as pandora going html5 Jul 13 23:09:48 PatrickC: I actually used Spotify about 2 years ago for 2 weeks or so until they realized I wasn't from Europe. I signed up via proxy lol Jul 13 23:09:59 lol Jul 13 23:10:01 PatrickC: I know! i'll have a high scores section after you log into villo. but it has to look good. it can't be half arsed Jul 13 23:10:02 what's the appid? Jul 13 23:10:05 I'm gonna spoof it Jul 13 23:10:08 Can't do that Jul 13 23:10:10 already tried Jul 13 23:10:13 dang... Jul 13 23:10:20 way ahead of you Jul 13 23:10:21 :D Jul 13 23:10:26 hmm Jul 13 23:10:41 I'll spoof activate my pre+ in europe with impostah Jul 13 23:11:20 PatrickC: Spotify isn't available here Jul 13 23:11:21 would that work? Jul 13 23:11:28 Popple3: aren't you in Europe? Jul 13 23:11:44 PatrickC: Spotifiy is a free app, you can download it using Impostah even on a US activated phone Jul 13 23:11:54 PatrickC: Yeah, but Spotify isn't in _all_ of europe Jul 13 23:11:56 Popple3: I couldn't get it to download on mine using impostah Jul 13 23:11:58 twbbas says you cant Jul 13 23:12:04 strange... Jul 13 23:12:14 twbbas: have you tried spoof activating in europe? Jul 13 23:12:16 Maybe I was doing it wrong but I thought I did it right Jul 13 23:12:26 try again? Jul 13 23:12:28 PatrickC: No I haven't. But even if you could download it, you wouldn't be able to play anything Jul 13 23:12:36 ^that Jul 13 23:12:48 You need to have a subscription for mobile streaming Jul 13 23:12:51 ^ Jul 13 23:12:52 ?9.99 I think Jul 13 23:12:55 That's what I think Jul 13 23:13:02 They have different plans Jul 13 23:13:07 but no prices are listed on their website Jul 13 23:13:16 I kind of remember it being $10/mo though Jul 13 23:13:57 no prices listed because I'm using a US IP Jul 13 23:14:04 twbbas: prices (in french): http://www.spotify.com/fr/get-spotify/overview/ Jul 13 23:14:05 :P Jul 13 23:14:15 ah thanks Jul 13 23:15:39 €9.99 =? x.xx$ ? Jul 13 23:15:58 c'mon, you can search that Jul 13 23:16:02 lol Jul 13 23:16:20 it's probably about $13-15 though Jul 13 23:16:32 http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xjwf3a_asldkfjasldkfj_travel#from=embediframe Jul 13 23:16:36 * dwc- doesn't keep track of exchange rates Jul 13 23:17:06 € = Euro? Jul 13 23:17:28 if so, its 14.125 Jul 13 23:17:31 USD Jul 13 23:18:46 bootlegger! Jul 13 23:18:56 huh? lol Jul 13 23:19:05 and its free too Jul 13 23:19:10 millions of songs instantly accessible Jul 13 23:20:44 http://pastebin.com/dh9449u2 what you get with free Jul 13 23:21:41 Omg I forgot about the sharing feature of spotify Jul 13 23:22:03 Instantly share playlists with others using just a simple link or add friends to view and edit your own playlists Jul 13 23:22:47 com.palm.app.spotify Jul 13 23:23:16 coding a sliding pane for the first time now Jul 13 23:23:29 trying to add more enyo components into my app Jul 13 23:23:54 twbbas: you have till 10am tomorrow ;) Jul 13 23:24:14 oh to submit for July 17th launch? Jul 13 23:24:19 yup Jul 13 23:24:27 eh this is just an update to an app already out there Jul 13 23:24:32 I plan on submitting it tomorrow evening Jul 13 23:24:49 I'll probably just strip mine and throw it as a free version ;) Jul 13 23:24:56 App? Jul 13 23:26:31 yup Jul 13 23:26:41 dang... Jul 13 23:26:49 I almost got thru activation... lol Jul 13 23:30:08 NuttyBunny: No, I meant what app? Jul 13 23:31:06 PhotoFun Jul 13 23:31:16 * PatrickC sends twbbas the IPK Jul 13 23:31:19 :P Jul 13 23:31:20 pat'd u get it Jul 13 23:31:25 yep Jul 13 23:31:31 haven't had time to run it yet Jul 13 23:31:37 okay Jul 13 23:31:40 i'm so tired Jul 13 23:31:51 Oh yeah, Photofun. I remember you talking about it before Jul 13 23:31:52 lol Jul 13 23:31:54 go to bed Jul 13 23:32:02 PatrickC: 0.9.4 or 0.9.3? :P If you're sharing, share 0.9.4 at least :) Jul 13 23:32:13 it's 7:27 Jul 13 23:32:14 * PatrickC almost got signed up for Spotify Jul 13 23:32:19 NuttyBunny: idk lol Jul 13 23:32:31 0.9.3 Jul 13 23:32:50 you haven't sent me the updated, pre2 friendly version ;) Jul 13 23:33:23 no, that's the choppy one :( 0.9.5 is almost Pre2 friendly. I still have trouble with the file picker :/ Jul 13 23:34:17 sent it to me :) Jul 13 23:34:34 hmm.. I can't seem to get around the spotify login screne Jul 13 23:34:37 screen* Jul 13 23:36:23 Ah, I think I can do something.. Jul 13 23:36:37 * NuttyBunny codes a quick semi fix for 0.9.5 ;) Jul 13 23:42:38 bbl Jul 13 23:42:45 NuttyBunny: send it to me when its done ;) Jul 13 23:43:01 Yes boss! :P Jul 13 23:44:22 Ok, now let's wait for Dropbox to do its magic. Jul 13 23:46:54 Phone Pandora app kept stuttering when I downloaded to TouchPad. Now listening on www.Pandora.com with Flash. ftw! Jul 13 23:57:17 IGNTNUNLMTD: lol Jul 13 23:57:19 yeah. Jul 13 23:57:21 hahaha Jul 13 23:57:29 no wai Jul 13 23:57:34 IGNTNUNLMTD: ya wai Jul 13 23:57:40 what apps have you written? Jul 13 23:57:46 nothing in the catalog Jul 13 23:57:51 ah Jul 13 23:57:52 internal use apps for my site Jul 13 23:57:57 for moderation Jul 13 23:58:03 TuneWiki, iHate411, iBored, Yalm Jul 13 23:58:09 woot Jul 13 23:58:10 and have one car-related app in the works Jul 13 23:58:12 cool! Jul 13 23:58:14 nice Jul 13 23:59:44 I just got my shipment of TouchPad accessories today Jul 13 23:59:46 = awesome Jul 14 00:00:02 you bought i already? Jul 14 00:00:04 damn Jul 14 00:00:23 yeah Jul 14 00:00:23 i went to bestbuy to check it out, veer and touchpad were all unplugged/dead-battery Jul 14 00:00:30 wayyyyy to sell it bestbuy! Jul 14 00:00:33 fcuking tards. Jul 14 00:00:33 damn best buy Jul 14 00:00:36 mine was good Jul 14 00:00:42 really excited about it Jul 14 00:00:49 actively calling it better than the Xoom and Playbook Jul 14 00:00:56 I was pleased. Jul 14 00:01:02 nice Jul 14 00:01:25 buddy of mine has been teasing me for months because he's had 2 for about 5 months Jul 14 00:01:28 (works at palm) Jul 14 00:01:41 ah nice Jul 14 00:12:31 I went to Best Buy and played with the Veer Jul 14 00:12:38 really, really liked it Jul 14 00:12:44 seemed smaller than I imagined it to be Jul 14 00:14:51 woa internet cut out. Can you see this? Jul 14 00:17:47 NuttyBunny: Jul 17 ??? Jul 14 00:17:57 twbbas: yes Jul 14 00:18:18 anybody here written a node.js service? Jul 14 00:18:39 haeffb: That's what I was asking earlier. I need to write one to unzip a downloaded file. Jul 14 00:19:04 looking at http://wiki.uqm.stack.nl/The_Ur-Quan_Masters Jul 14 00:19:06 i see something missing Jul 14 00:19:10 wonder what it would take Jul 14 00:19:25 I need one to save a file :) Jul 14 00:19:35 i believe it's already using SDL Jul 14 00:20:33 yah it is Jul 14 00:20:45 cxreg: cool, me want, me loves :) Jul 14 00:20:48 i bet the amount of work required is miniscule Jul 14 00:21:01 whats the right approach here, widk? Jul 14 00:21:03 pdk? Jul 14 00:21:08 haeffb: you might want to ping halfhalo for that one Jul 14 00:21:18 cxreg, it's the same :) Jul 14 00:21:22 it is? Jul 14 00:21:29 ok widk then :) Jul 14 00:21:33 i already know how to use that Jul 14 00:21:59 cxreg, You have 4 hours. Go! ;) Jul 14 00:22:00 oh, and does anyone here have a TouchPad and a printer that it can print to? Jul 14 00:22:07 NuttyBunny: haha Jul 14 00:22:21 haeffb: technically yes but not in the same house Jul 14 00:22:23 lol Jul 14 00:22:25 a printer to which it can print, for the pedantic Jul 14 00:22:39 cxreg: close, but no cigar Jul 14 00:22:45 my mute switch doesnt work Jul 14 00:22:53 i mean it does but the phone doesnt respond properly Jul 14 00:22:54 but pondNotes can (maybe) print now Jul 14 00:22:57 it mutes then unmutes Jul 14 00:23:11 forced to use the volume buttons :| Jul 14 00:23:20 nice Jul 14 00:24:13 * haeffb wonders how long a headless enyo app can run with no window before the system shuts it down Jul 14 00:24:42 the only way to know.. test ;) Jul 14 00:26:43 haeffb, twbbas, IGNTNUNLMTD, and everyone else with TP, could you test this one?: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7157044/beta/com.nuttybunny.photofunbeta_0.9.5_all.ipk (No, it doesn't save, no, the trashcan doesn't work yet) Jul 14 00:27:12 busy now :-( but I'll add it to my to-do list Jul 14 00:27:18 the current beta of pondNotes is here for anyone who'd like to test. http://smallpondapps.com/wp-content/uploads/ipk/ Jul 14 00:27:20 I'm beta testing a ton of stuff for people currently Jul 14 00:27:39 but IGNTNUNLMTD is not allowed to test it. Jul 14 00:27:46 lulz Jul 14 00:27:55 * haeffb testing reverse sycology Jul 14 00:27:58 IGNTNUNLMTD: If the dev rel people worked faster, we could have TP's to test on :@ Jul 14 00:28:03 NuttyBunny: Installing Jul 14 00:28:10 twbbas: Thanks :) Jul 14 00:28:19 haeffb: sure, I'll add yours too Jul 14 00:28:19 lol Jul 14 00:28:24 that makes 4 Jul 14 00:28:25 haha Jul 14 00:28:26 At least it now should work mostly ok on a Pre 2 with enyo as well :D Jul 14 00:28:36 what does that even LOOK like? Jul 14 00:28:46 I just bought Neato! yesterday for the first time. Using it on my TouchPad. Just sent that link to my TP and it instantly loaded up Preware to the .ipk file. Soooo neat...o! Jul 14 00:29:08 * haeffb owns neato! but has never used it Jul 14 00:29:25 It's handy for times like these Jul 14 00:29:29 IGNTNUNLMTD: mine looks like a camera with disguise glasses/nose ;) Jul 14 00:29:49 whowhatnow? Jul 14 00:29:58 Yep, it's like poor's man touch to share ;) (neato) Jul 14 00:30:16 * haeffb just downloaded and did palm-install Jul 14 00:30:58 NuttyBunny: White screen on load... Jul 14 00:31:09 Enyo gray screen of death Jul 14 00:31:28 GSOD here too Jul 14 00:31:40 argh Jul 14 00:31:44 :( Jul 14 00:31:54 * NuttyBunny should test before releasing ;) Jul 14 00:32:05 * haeffb thought thats what we were for Jul 14 00:32:08 downloading Lumberjack to help you find the error Jul 14 00:33:00 can you change an app from free to paid in the catalog? Jul 14 00:33:37 NuttyBunny: "Cannot read property of 'length' of undefined" PhotoFun.js line 553 Jul 14 00:33:47 You probably found it already but w/e Jul 14 00:33:53 yep... I think it didn't like my commented json file ;) Jul 14 00:34:30 akanster: no you can not Jul 14 00:34:43 :( Jul 14 00:34:56 but you can do in-app purchases to unlock features Jul 14 00:35:02 ^ That's what I do :D Jul 14 00:35:06 supposedly Jul 14 00:35:30 how easy is it to add in-app purchases? Jul 14 00:35:39 coding-wise Jul 14 00:37:43 mmm... you could delete the commented lines in images/frames/info.json and delete/comment line 559 of Photofun.js :@ Jul 14 00:37:50 * haeffb considering two options Jul 14 00:38:03 1) write a node.js service to background sync Jul 14 00:38:14 2) sync at startup and upon note change(s) Jul 14 00:38:21 2) is much simpler, methinks Jul 14 00:38:34 1) is cooler Jul 14 00:38:49 discuss Jul 14 00:39:05 haeffb: Pretty much what you already said Jul 14 00:39:05 akanster: HP has some sample code that you can pretty much just take and use Jul 14 00:39:23 * Popple3 is also considering two options Jul 14 00:39:27 1) Water Jul 14 00:39:29 2) Coke Jul 14 00:39:39 twbbas: I'll look into that. Thanks Jul 14 00:39:39 3) Beer! Jul 14 00:39:50 4) Vodka Jul 14 00:39:51 * Popple3 doesn't drink alcohol Jul 14 00:39:54 4) Koooooool-aid Jul 14 00:40:00 Vodka is not alcohol Jul 14 00:40:06 akanster: LIES! Jul 14 00:40:10 it's Russian water! Jul 14 00:40:13 haha Jul 14 00:40:21 haeffb: activity manager server that syncs in the background in a power-friendly way Jul 14 00:40:21 s/server/service/ Jul 14 00:40:26 the activity manager can synchronise all the periodic syncs on the device to do the all while the device has woken and the radio is on, rather than all of them waking up a various times and powering up the radio for each of those times Jul 14 00:40:48 rwhitby: the complicating factor is saving changes to a SQLite DB Jul 14 00:41:03 from what I've read thus far, a service can't connect to a DB. Jul 14 00:41:13 haeffb: so you need node.js to Mojo.Depot ? Jul 14 00:41:39 haeffb: The problem with sync on startup/change, if there's a large number of changes, you'll be sitting waiting for the app, or you'll be editing a note before it's fully syncedf Jul 14 00:41:42 *synced Jul 14 00:41:49 of course, you probably knew that Jul 14 00:41:52 but blah Jul 14 00:41:56 not Depot, I need the query capabilities of SQLite Jul 14 00:42:06 s/need/currently use/ Jul 14 00:42:29 Popple3: yes Jul 14 00:42:54 so, the service has to launch the app to request data, to save data... Jul 14 00:43:03 haeffb: can you luna-send the queries? Jul 14 00:43:04 also, if you're like me and often stuck on edge that'd be damn tedious Jul 14 00:43:34 you can appMan launch the app with params, & then the app can call the service Jul 14 00:43:39 is my understanding Jul 14 00:44:03 haeffb: or you could change to use db8 Jul 14 00:44:05 but that whole scheme seems convoluted Jul 14 00:44:18 I could switch to db8 Jul 14 00:44:40 how big is the db? Jul 14 00:44:43 but then I lose (as I understand db8) some of the query power of SQLite Jul 14 00:45:04 the db size depends on the user. It's a notes app, so how big/many are their notes? Jul 14 00:45:12 (since DB8 is horribly crippled by Palm due to size limitations, to the point where it is useless for anything serious. Jul 14 00:45:14 Generally not very big, but.... Jul 14 00:45:42 haeffb: unless you're name is Derek? Jul 14 00:45:52 All my choices seem less than optimal Jul 14 00:46:01 rwhitby: exactly Jul 14 00:46:32 * haeffb is also currently using the RichText control, which apparently has issues with large amount of data anyway. Jul 14 00:46:39 sigh Jul 14 00:46:40 Anyone know where the webOS stock app code is in the 3.0 doctor? I can't find it. Jul 14 00:46:40 haeffb: I agree that Palm have made incredibly bad design decisions around services and database access. Jul 14 00:47:48 * haeffb should be able to use ActivityManager to "run this js code whenever the system feels up to it" Jul 14 00:47:56 without having to resort to a service Jul 14 00:48:13 Uploading again ;) Jul 14 00:48:21 * twbbas found it Jul 14 00:49:57 twbbas: /usr/palm/applications Jul 14 00:50:37 rwhitby: I couldn't find the usr folder but I found it now :) Jul 14 00:53:04 why is there no weather app for the TouchPad ? Jul 14 00:53:24 sure there is Jul 14 00:54:56 * haeffb finds weatherbug Jul 14 00:55:02 and Canadian weather Jul 14 00:58:55 weatherbug is kinda meh Jul 14 00:59:19 who thought I'd want to see a camera photo as the main display? Jul 14 00:59:26 I like the weather channel app (phone) better. I wish they made one for the TouchPad Jul 14 00:59:58 with the goofy looking "open window panes" on either side. Jul 14 01:00:13 supposed to make me think I'm actually looking out the window? Jul 14 01:01:27 but the nice thing is that the ads will let me download the desktop version of weatherbug! Jul 14 01:04:09 NuttyBunny: I still see GSOD Jul 14 01:05:04 haeffb: Download it again, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7157044/beta/com.nuttybunny.photofunbeta_0.9.5_all.ipk (uninstall the old one first), this one should work Jul 14 01:05:46 see if I hear PatrickC's requests to test it on his Pre 2 :@ Jul 14 01:05:47 NuttyBunny: Downloading/installing Jul 14 01:06:46 ok, now my Pre has issues... jumpy digitizer. I'd reboot it but I'd had to wait more than 9 minutes :( Jul 14 01:08:32 NuttyBunny: hahahaha the startup screen! Jul 14 01:08:36 (it works, btw) Jul 14 01:08:53 twbbas: the frame is random each time!! Jul 14 01:09:13 oh lol Jul 14 01:09:26 I got the wet chick my first time Jul 14 01:09:28 lol Jul 14 01:09:36 yeah! :D Jul 14 01:09:58 this is awesome Jul 14 01:10:04 Good thing you didn't got the fat guy in Sailor Moon Cosplay :D Jul 14 01:10:05 * haeffb got the "big" one Jul 14 01:10:09 LOL Jul 14 01:10:14 *that* one ;) Jul 14 01:10:17 lol Jul 14 01:10:25 NuttyBunny: Is there a way to use FB photos? Jul 14 01:10:26 seems a little less smooth than the last version Jul 14 01:10:33 My FB albums aren't showing up Jul 14 01:10:37 * Popple3 has devised a plan to get a new phone AND save ?200 in a year Jul 14 01:10:59 twbbas: You have to download the photo, open it in the photos app and save it to your device Jul 14 01:11:15 it will then appear in your downloads folder Jul 14 01:11:53 there's no way to tell the file picker to look in certain folders, it's hard coded :( Jul 14 01:13:16 NuttyBunny: Wow, that sucks... I was hoping photo synergy would've meant any app would have access through file picker :( Jul 14 01:14:10 Popple3: Nope, confirmed that already, it was one of the first things I wanted to do. Maybe there's another way, but I haven't looked into it yet Jul 14 01:14:50 that sucks... Jul 14 01:15:01 Oh well, I'm off to get some sleep Jul 14 01:15:17 work in the morning, then a driving lesson Jul 14 01:15:20 ok Jul 14 01:15:26 night guys Jul 14 01:15:37 * NuttyBunny waits for feedback from haeffb and twbbas ... Jul 14 01:16:41 seems a little less smooth than the last version Jul 14 01:17:49 response to my gestures is more herky-jerky Jul 14 01:17:50 yep, I was doing a canvas copy with each scaling/rotation movement.. my mistake ;) Jul 14 01:18:04 ah,.. less smooth??? Jul 14 01:18:07 how do I work the trash can? Jul 14 01:18:17 no, the trash can doesn't work yet :) Jul 14 01:18:52 I want to drag the items there and it will become brighter, you drop it and it will simply vanish. That will be done today Jul 14 01:19:00 * haeffb WANTS A TRASH CAN!!!! Jul 14 01:21:22 NuttyBunny: The accessories don't appear above the frame image. I've only found them to be useful in the picture frame one Jul 14 01:21:57 and there were a few times where I pinched to zoom out and lost my picture behind the frame because it kinda jumped while zooming. Once I lost my picture, there was no way to get it back besides reloading it. Jul 14 01:22:21 Those were the only problems I've found with it. Otherwise, the app looks pretty neat! Jul 14 01:23:25 twbbas: yep, I don't know why it does that.. the jumpy thingy, it's weird... but... really? the accesories?? can you run it again? the toolbar and header should be in the front Jul 14 01:23:35 they appear correctly in the emu, chrome and pre 2 Jul 14 01:23:53 they are. but the accessories are not when added to the photo Jul 14 01:24:07 so the hair, etc can get lost behind the frame Jul 14 01:24:49 ah, right!... now that I think of it, they appear in the middle of the screen, so in some frames they get lost Jul 14 01:25:58 yep, since it's not a "professional" app, I can just paste everything on top of the frame, the user will have to move them around ;) Jul 14 01:27:47 * NuttyBunny wishes all the bugs would be as easy to fix as that one... "change z-index from 2 to 9" ... ok, working in the trashcan Jul 14 01:28:15 My internet cut out again. Last thing I saw was [09:20:58PM] yep, since it's not a "professional" app,.... Jul 14 01:28:46 ah, stupid stupid HtmlContent control Jul 14 01:29:33 stupid eclipse... why does it locks when doing a Ctrl-C?? :( Jul 14 01:29:50 My internet cut out again. Last thing I saw was [09:20:58PM] yep, since it's not a "professional" app,.... Jul 14 01:30:30 hehe... tried the 3d glasses? they're semi-transparent ;) Jul 14 01:31:40 ooo that's sweet Jul 14 01:31:51 I do like how you can rotate stuff, though Jul 14 01:32:22 the HtmlContent control doesn't wrap text Jul 14 01:33:39 haeffb: even if you set it to a fixed width? Jul 14 01:36:03 not that I can tell. It does helpfully add a scroll bar in Chrome Jul 14 01:42:40 haeffb, check support/examples/Layouts/Layout-Stress-Test/Layout.js , the HtmlContent elements do wrap text in there Jul 14 01:43:07 Is there a way to position a toolbar at the bottom of a pane when there is nothing but images with absolute positioning in that same pane? style:"position:bottom;" doesn't work. Jul 14 01:44:47 oh wait... Jul 14 01:45:02 I read CSS stuff wrong... position:bottom; isn't a valid CSS code Jul 14 01:45:52 I tried style:"bottom:0px;" and that still doesn't work Jul 14 01:48:46 I used an empty element with flex:1, then the toolbar Jul 14 01:49:01 look at my messy code ;) Jul 14 01:50:21 webOS Toaster- ;) hehehe.. cool Jul 14 01:50:24 Oh man. That worked awesome Jul 14 01:50:26 thanks Jul 14 01:52:33 twbbas: np, now you help me with my node.js service for saving the images ;) Jul 14 01:53:08 NuttyBunny: Haha, very funny! I haven't started node.js services yet myself but I plan to do it before I go to sleep tonight Jul 14 01:53:56 twbbas: If you find a nice tutorial please tell me, I tried with the webos internals hello app but I just can't get it :S Jul 14 01:54:25 NuttyBunny: Will do! Jul 14 01:54:41 yeah, I must be doing something wrong, but I don't know what. Jul 14 01:55:56 check me out bro! http://twitpic.com/5ps0sf Jul 14 01:56:15 funkatron: Nice! Jul 14 01:56:28 I was wondering if Erin Andrews was going to use Spaz for twitter when I saw HP's tweet Jul 14 01:56:51 http://pastebin.com/eWBbiEuk Jul 14 01:57:12 funkatron: well done mate. Jul 14 01:58:22 funkatron: That's really nice! Congratulations! Jul 14 01:58:27 fancy Jul 14 01:58:37 now they'll all get in trouble for using something called "Spaz" Jul 14 01:58:44 ^ Jul 14 02:01:32 I wonder how many millions of people just saw Spaz HD Jul 14 02:01:52 OMFG JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE Jul 14 02:02:28 using Spaz? Jul 14 02:02:41 nah he's just on the Espys Jul 14 02:04:24 funkatron: You may want to watch @ErinAndrew's twitter stream to see if she posts from Spaz HD :D Jul 14 02:04:51 OMFG Jul 14 02:04:56 yeah she seems to use Echofon Jul 14 02:05:29 Yup Jul 14 02:05:34 and stopped tweeting like an hr ago Jul 14 02:06:42 Dude she is doing important stuff Jul 14 02:06:49 lies Jul 14 02:16:44 where's all those SWAT guys that are supposed to help me write apps? Jul 14 02:17:51 are you a big corporation? Jul 14 02:19:03 lol Jul 14 02:19:33 I want a SWAT guy to come knock on my door and help me :D Jul 14 02:19:47 * halfhalo shines the sugardave-signal Jul 14 02:20:10 and now dkirker-signal and roy-pre101-signal Jul 14 02:21:08 Oh noes! I think Twitter is down. Showing Spaz HD on ESPN must have broke it :S Jul 14 02:21:14 -haha Jul 14 02:22:41 rwhitby: I have a website and everything Jul 14 02:22:47 lol Jul 14 02:23:20 rwhitby: it doesn't appear they've been helping Netflix or Amazon or TheWeatherChannel or.... Jul 14 02:23:35 That ^ Jul 14 02:23:50 PAndora Jul 14 02:24:04 It launched with the Pre at launch right? Why didn't it launch with the TouchPad too? Jul 14 02:26:59 I need a swat guy as well... adding a single feature every 2 days or fixing just one bug each day doesn't help :S Jul 14 02:27:53 I can't find anything in the documentation or on google about how to slide a pane away. Like when you hit those 3 vertical bars in the email app... Anyone know how to? Jul 14 02:32:29 twbbas: docs/docs.html#dev-guide/enyo/sliding-panels.html that? Jul 14 02:34:14 NuttyBunny: I've looked there but it doesn't say how to trigger the animation from the code, does it? Jul 14 02:34:41 twbbas: you mean do it automatically instead of resizing it by hand?? Jul 14 02:34:43 (I actually looked at the updated ones on the developer website. Those aren't missing anything in the downloaded SDK are they?) Jul 14 02:35:13 NuttyBunny: I mean like when the user taps on an image (like the 3 vertical bars), I want to make the pane "slide" to the left like the email app. Jul 14 02:35:30 Dragging works fine Jul 14 02:35:57 The StyleMatters app does it :) Jul 14 02:38:01 sooo.... totally wanting the new macbook airs to come out already Jul 14 02:39:03 hear hear Jul 14 02:39:27 NuttyBunny: Thanks! I discovered enyo.GrabButton from that Jul 14 02:39:33 I was just using an image before Jul 14 02:39:55 {slidingHandler: true, kind: "GrabButton"} yep, that's what I was about to tell you :) Jul 14 02:40:37 * NuttyBunny makes a mental note of that.. it will come in handy with my next app ;) Jul 14 02:41:23 Sometimes it's hard to find some of these widgets =\ Jul 14 02:41:42 haeffb, twbbas: The items are way more usable if I put them on top of the frame! Thanks!! :D Jul 14 02:42:25 NuttyBunny: No problem! That's what beta testers are for, heh Jul 14 02:44:46 woohoo! word-wrap: break-word; Jul 14 02:47:04 meh. Jul 14 02:48:00 that breaks words in the middle - the other option word-wrap: normal: doesn't wrap Jul 14 02:53:48 So apparently Spotify-free only gives you 10 hrs of playback a month... Jul 14 02:56:18 -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; Jul 14 02:56:18 -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; Jul 14 02:56:22 that did the trick Jul 14 02:56:58 weeeird Jul 14 02:57:06 no shirt Jul 14 02:57:27 * haeffb has an "edit" view and a "view" view Jul 14 02:57:43 the edit uses a RichText control, the view uses HtmlContent Jul 14 02:58:03 that was one of the differences in styling between the two Jul 14 02:58:36 altho styling is not exactly the same yet, they break lines at slightly different points Jul 14 02:58:36 programming, is like working in circles. over and over Jul 14 02:59:12 omg so true **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jul 14 02:59:57 2011