**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jul 15 02:59:57 2011 Jul 15 03:01:21 so, sugardave: is your TP alive now? :) Jul 15 03:02:08 haeffb: The print didn't turn out well? Jul 15 03:02:26 no, may be confusion on which frame it's supposed to print. Jul 15 03:02:36 ah Jul 15 03:04:54 I have a kind with a name: noteView and a component in that kind with a name: noteView Jul 15 03:05:03 probably not a good idea. Jul 15 03:05:33 especially with frameToPrint: {name:"noteView", landscape:false}, Jul 15 03:05:49 perhaps it gets confused which noteView Jul 15 03:06:03 * NuttyBunny gets ignored by the TP people Jul 15 03:06:20 * NuttyBunny grabs his Pre 2 and plays with it in a corner Jul 15 03:06:59 NuttyBunny: mine is alive, but isn't a valid test environment...let me work on this example for a bit Jul 15 03:08:42 sugardave: right, you told me that before, sorry ;) Jul 15 03:10:27 NuttyBunny: Wheeee! Jul 15 03:12:10 * twbbas just opened up 15 browser cards and flung them away :D Jul 15 03:12:15 interesting. The help pane shows up fine if you show the printdialog first Jul 15 03:12:35 interesting and rather useless. Jul 15 03:12:56 "Please tap the printer icon, close the dialog and then select Help again" Jul 15 03:14:37 * haeffb will report as a printDialog bug. Jul 15 03:16:34 hey hey Jul 15 03:17:27 hi hi Jul 15 03:17:39 * NuttyBunny kicks PatrickC Jul 15 03:17:44 Wheeeeee!! Jul 15 03:18:01 NuttyBunny: ahh Jul 15 03:18:06 I haven't done that yet Jul 15 03:18:07 PATRICK Jul 15 03:18:09 I'll do it now Jul 15 03:18:12 fxspec06: YES Jul 15 03:18:15 go see my app Jul 15 03:18:17 lol Jul 15 03:18:20 sugardave: a new version is uploaded... if you find time to test printing again.... Jul 15 03:18:22 i added leaderboards Jul 15 03:18:27 going now Jul 15 03:18:30 it's sweet Jul 15 03:18:30 k Jul 15 03:18:33 (after NuttyBunny's) Jul 15 03:18:37 lol Jul 15 03:19:52 NuttyBunny: didn't hear it Jul 15 03:20:31 :P Jul 15 03:20:43 wait till you see the new version, you'll love it ;) Jul 15 03:20:48 * twbbas just started typing a question and then answered it in the middle of typing it. #Winning Jul 15 03:21:06 fxspec06: niiiiiicccccccceeeeeee :) Jul 15 03:21:10 NuttyBunny: send away ;) Jul 15 03:21:36 ohhhh boy Jul 15 03:21:43 I'll have fun with Villo :D Jul 15 03:21:49 brb Jul 15 03:21:52 Villo works with Enyo right? Jul 15 03:22:10 yes Jul 15 03:22:48 setting lazy: false on the printDialog kind solves the problem. Jul 15 03:23:27 * NuttyBunny mumbles about needing a TouchPad... poor Pre2, it can't handle Photofun as I add more and more stuff :'( Jul 15 03:24:12 ordered a keyboard, case and touchstand today Jul 15 03:24:23 keyboard & case will be here tomorrow. Jul 15 03:24:29 * haeffb making NuttyBunny jealous. Jul 15 03:24:57 haeffb: Case and TouchStone are amazing Jul 15 03:25:29 When you first get the TouchStone, load up Facebook's exhibition mode. It'll blow your mind Jul 15 03:25:39 * PatrickC is gonna make another $45 tomorrow Jul 15 03:25:44 thanks pat Jul 15 03:25:49 * twbbas wonders who PatrickC is gonna rob Jul 15 03:25:58 my neighbor Jul 15 03:26:10 I'm glad I don't live near any Patricks Jul 15 03:26:12 lol pat u got a score of 6 Jul 15 03:26:18 u beat bastitch Jul 15 03:26:20 :) Jul 15 03:26:24 lol Jul 15 03:26:24 hahhahahahaha Jul 15 03:26:39 twbbas: mowing and weed eating my neighbors lawn Jul 15 03:26:51 PatrickC: Good for you! Jul 15 03:27:06 I'll have approx. $275 after it Jul 15 03:27:06 and that wasn't sarcastic Jul 15 03:27:09 nice Jul 15 03:27:11 lol Jul 15 03:27:12 yep Jul 15 03:27:13 Saving for a TouchPad? Jul 15 03:27:16 going toward a mac Jul 15 03:27:20 lameeee Jul 15 03:27:25 TouchPad > Mac Jul 15 03:27:28 no tp yet.. that'll probably be $400 Jul 15 03:27:32 I don't have $400 Jul 15 03:27:45 the only way I'll be able to get a tp is if I'm a blackbelt Jul 15 03:27:58 How many apps you got? Jul 15 03:28:33 6 Jul 15 03:28:37 Nice Jul 15 03:28:39 probably only 1 qualifies Jul 15 03:28:41 * NuttyBunny wishes for haeffb's case to crack his TPad for making him jelous :P Jul 15 03:28:44 I have like 6-7 but I don't know which ones qualify Jul 15 03:28:48 I have 2-3 in the works Jul 15 03:28:55 twbbas: are you in my beta? Jul 15 03:28:58 I think so.. Jul 15 03:29:01 PatrickC: I believe so Jul 15 03:29:15 The one with the gorilla holding a radio icon? Jul 15 03:29:17 ;) Jul 15 03:29:26 yes :P Jul 15 03:30:35 hehehe Jul 15 03:30:35 * NuttyBunny mumbles about FogHorn Jul 15 03:30:50 NuttyBunny: fix it, I'll give you the source :P Jul 15 03:31:06 * NuttyBunny throws his 11th item to the trash... wheeee!! Jul 15 03:31:09 did you buy it, or use a promo? Jul 15 03:31:18 NuttyBunny: I seill never heard it! :P Jul 15 03:31:35 Is your media volume turned up? Jul 15 03:31:40 what? the Metrix part? Jul 15 03:31:41 yes Jul 15 03:31:48 NuttyBunny: the weeeee Jul 15 03:32:00 create 11 items, drop them to the trash Jul 15 03:32:13 I created 11 items 1 at a time Jul 15 03:32:23 and threw them away individually Jul 15 03:32:38 Something's wrong then Jul 15 03:32:45 yeah Jul 15 03:32:46 Open up your music app and turn the volume app Jul 15 03:32:47 it works on the Pre2 as well Jul 15 03:32:54 NuttyBunny: what folder is the sound in? Jul 15 03:33:04 I'll just play it by itself :) Jul 15 03:33:19 should work as well Jul 15 03:33:20 create more Jul 15 03:33:29 ah Jul 15 03:33:29 that's it, it's my mistake.. again ;) Jul 15 03:33:30 LOL.. you don't have the file!!! Jul 15 03:33:34 hahaha Jul 15 03:33:37 UGGGGG Jul 15 03:33:38 lol Jul 15 03:33:49 thx NuttyBunny Jul 15 03:35:59 .pcm ? Jul 15 03:36:00 there, sent :D Jul 15 03:36:00 you have to reboot after copying it, it's a system sound on the TP :D Jul 15 03:36:21 PatrickC: It works in the emu :P Jul 15 03:36:43 yup Jul 15 03:37:12 "With the Print Dialog, apps can move content they want rendered into a browser frame (visible or not) and pass the frame's name as a parameter to the Print Dialog." Jul 15 03:37:26 what, exactly, do they mean by a browser frame ? Jul 15 03:38:05 HtmlContent control !== browser frame? Jul 15 03:38:37 did anyone see the new webos GBU head Jul 15 03:39:15 no idea... brb.. I'll have dinner while dropbox syncs 0.9.8 :D Jul 15 03:39:19 looks a little too friendly Jul 15 03:40:51 hi lemketron! Jul 15 03:40:58 lemketron: hey! Jul 15 03:41:06 Hey Jul 15 03:41:27 where's my touchpad? :) Jul 15 03:41:37 what's new in emu-land? Jul 15 03:41:49 PatrickC: Best Buy? Jul 15 03:41:56 lol Jul 15 03:42:04 still waiting to hear back from dev rel Jul 15 03:42:05 haeffb: working on some new emulator builds for everyone Jul 15 03:42:16 "everyone"? :) Jul 15 03:42:17 awesome Jul 15 03:42:27 * PatrickC wants webos 4.0 to launch in EA land Jul 15 03:42:41 4.0 ? Jul 15 03:42:47 yeah Jul 15 03:42:52 it comes after 3.0? Jul 15 03:42:56 I could build something called 4.0, but it would look a lot like 3.0 except for the version string. ;-) Jul 15 03:43:03 lol Jul 15 03:43:15 lol Jul 15 03:43:39 that's nothing. i can make webos 9000.+ Jul 15 03:43:39 I could also make my pre2 report as 3.0 to the servers (or try to anyway) Jul 15 03:44:00 hmm.. Jul 15 03:44:13 I'm not sure any good would come of that Jul 15 03:44:19 http://www.amazon.com/HP-LaserJet-Printer-CE657A-BGJ/dp/B0036TGGVO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1310701119&sr=8-1 Jul 15 03:44:25 will the TP print to that? Jul 15 03:44:25 * PatrickC goes to change his pre2 into a masq'd pre2 that says its a touchpad Jul 15 03:44:38 hola lemketron! Jul 15 03:44:54 and/or where can I find a list of TP-compatible printers? Jul 15 03:45:36 If it says HP on the front, it might be harder to find a printer that DOESN'T work. Jul 15 03:45:45 * halfhalo takes that challenge Jul 15 03:46:03 * NuttyBunny whistles Jul 15 03:46:14 Ironically, I have one, but it's over ten years old and is only network-connected through an Airport Extreme. Allegedly if I put it back on my old HP JetDirect, it will likely work. Jul 15 03:47:36 * halfhalo goes back to packing some stuff up for move Jul 15 03:47:58 suite Jul 15 03:48:57 * halfhalo does obligatory fist shake at hp hr on his way Jul 15 03:49:30 BTW, if you're looking for a new printer, this one looks pretty cool: HP LaserJet Pro 100 MFP M175NW (just announced, compact color multi-function laserjet) Jul 15 03:49:48 Only thing it doesn't have (on my wish list) is duplex. But the price and features are pretty cool otherwise. Jul 15 03:50:03 color laser, huh ? Jul 15 03:50:05 the Pre2Pad decided to reboot Jul 15 03:50:41 too late... /me taking advantage of Amazon prime 1-month free trial Jul 15 03:50:48 it must know better Jul 15 03:50:56 * PatrickC thinks haeffb failed at /me Jul 15 03:51:21 haeffb thinks PatrickC thinks too much Jul 15 03:51:28 nope Jul 15 03:51:29 so since the 17th is the real retail launch of the TP, is that when the opensource packages will be uploaded ? Jul 15 03:51:33 I don't usually think at all Jul 15 03:51:37 I told you to reboot Jul 15 03:51:42 and when I do, its dangerous Jul 15 03:51:56 NuttyBunny: it decided to reboot itself :P Jul 15 03:52:24 full reboot Jul 15 03:52:44 yep Jul 15 03:55:30 now. NuttyBunny: make the easter egg come to phones everywhere :) Jul 15 03:55:54 well, back to work for me... Jul 15 03:56:00 tsktsktsk Jul 15 03:58:12 oil: so what do you make of no webOS 3.0 for Pre 3 ? Jul 15 03:58:41 wait.. no 3.0 for pre3, period? or for now? Jul 15 03:59:12 Read Ruby's interview. Jul 15 03:59:29 ok Jul 15 03:59:31 "I chose my words very carefully. Sometime in the future we will re-converge these, but right now that’s not the plan." Jul 15 03:59:31 they've never said there was 3.0 for the pre3 though, have they? Jul 15 04:00:05 I've always been under the impression that there'll be enyo for pre2-TP, but not necessarily 3.x Jul 15 04:00:08 they said it would have enyo at launch iirc Jul 15 04:00:20 enyo doesn't mean 3.x Jul 15 04:00:29 * rwhitby bbl Jul 15 04:00:30 true Jul 15 04:00:35 cya rod Jul 15 04:01:05 i remember on the website it showed 'upgradeable to webos 3.0' Jul 15 04:01:11 probably still there Jul 15 04:01:18 I thought that too Jul 15 04:01:28 but honestly i never expected til january at least Jul 15 04:01:31 fxspec06: got a link? Jul 15 04:01:42 that why i was confident in my decision to code for mojo Jul 15 04:01:44 yeah h.o Jul 15 04:01:45 I'm getting one Jul 15 04:02:28 all it says is "Your device is already running webOS 2. Jul 15 04:02:46 I've always assumed phones would have 2.x(probably 3?) with an enyo compat layer Jul 15 04:03:59 https://developer.palm.com/content/showcase/device_showcase.html#item1 Jul 15 04:04:06 http://forums.precentral.net/palm-pre-2/282021-webos-3-0-pre-2-a.html#post2957731 Jul 15 04:04:10 it was me who said it Jul 15 04:04:10 lol Jul 15 04:04:49 haeffb, twbbas , PatrickC : Update feeds, test please :) Jul 15 04:04:55 ok Jul 15 04:04:57 will do Jul 15 04:04:59 Runs your Mojo-based apps faster than Pre, upgradable to webOS 3.0 and Enyo. Jul 15 04:05:25 enyo still needs work on older devices Jul 15 04:05:30 yeah Jul 15 04:05:35 hrm, interesting Jul 15 04:05:44 that does suggest that it'll get 3.0 at some point Jul 15 04:05:50 who else has TouchPad and would like to test? Jul 15 04:06:15 NuttyBunny: you need a real distribution system.. lol Jul 15 04:06:32 NuttyBunny: what is it? Jul 15 04:06:35 want me to hook you up? Jul 15 04:06:39 I got a good one Jul 15 04:06:52 PatrickC, I have my dropbox feed, thanks :) Jul 15 04:06:59 ok.. j/w Jul 15 04:07:00 summatusmentis: my photofun app Jul 15 04:07:14 oh, yeah, I saw that tweet Jul 15 04:07:23 cause you have to remove/install every time to do it :) Jul 15 04:08:30 I won't say that's Rod's fault, it must be either mine or Jason's because I'm using his tool to create the feed ;) Jul 15 04:08:53 yep Jul 15 04:08:55 :) Jul 15 04:09:14 I'm working with Arthur Thornton to make an awesome new distribution system Jul 15 04:09:18 its what I use Jul 15 04:09:49 NuttyBunny: make the bottom row a HFlexBox, might work better on the pre2 Jul 15 04:10:24 have to remove/install? Jul 15 04:10:44 when NuttyBunny updates his app on his preware feed Jul 15 04:10:52 you have to remove it, then re-install it Jul 15 04:10:57 no "update" option Jul 15 04:11:08 Preware doesn't show update option :( Jul 15 04:11:22 the feed doesnt increment the version number? Jul 15 04:11:33 yep, and appears in the updates list Jul 15 04:11:50 but when you select it, it only has the remove option Jul 15 04:11:59 thats weird Jul 15 04:12:02 you remove it, then tap install and it installs the new one Jul 15 04:12:40 NuttyBunny: You FIXED A MAJOR ENYO PROBLEM WITH YOUR ENYO.JS FILE!! Jul 15 04:12:41 :D Jul 15 04:12:50 on the pre2 Jul 15 04:14:03 yep, PatrickC: You no longer need a TouchPad to test your programs :P Jul 15 04:14:13 well Jul 15 04:14:19 I still need it tho, the icons are way too small :P Jul 15 04:14:20 scroller didn't work in 0.10/1.0 Jul 15 04:14:26 but it did in 0.9 Jul 15 04:15:05 it fixed the swipe-to-delete problems too :D Jul 15 04:15:15 the pickers act funny on the pre2, but seem right in Chrome (didn't test it in the emu) Jul 15 04:15:40 soooo... only PatrickC is testing? :S Jul 15 04:15:56 testing? Jul 15 04:16:08 yep... Jul 15 04:16:13 haeffb, twbbas , PatrickC : Update feeds, test please :) Jul 15 04:16:25 again? Jul 15 04:16:27 lol Jul 15 04:16:36 no, not again Jul 15 04:16:43 nvm Jul 15 04:16:46 lol Jul 15 04:16:50 oh, I see lol Jul 15 04:17:07 does it pulse now when creating/selecting items? Jul 15 04:17:25 yep Jul 15 04:17:35 hflexbox in the next version Jul 15 04:17:37 :) Jul 15 04:17:57 why? do you want even smaller buttons?? Jul 15 04:18:25 no, make the buttons on the bottom be in a hflexbox, so they scroll side-to-side Jul 15 04:19:50 hflexbox with "horizontal":"true" ? Jul 15 04:20:23 no clue how to set it up, but isn't hflexbox a horizontal scroller? Jul 15 04:20:49 can be Jul 15 04:21:39 that's what I'm taking about ;) Jul 15 04:24:18 PAT Jul 15 04:24:22 you got enyo scroller?!?!? Jul 15 04:24:31 yes Jul 15 04:24:36 thx to NuttyBunny Jul 15 04:24:44 enyo.js file? including enyo in an app is kosher? Jul 15 04:25:03 nope Jul 15 04:25:16 I make an ipk that installs enyo to /usr/palm/frameworks Jul 15 04:25:39 I know the palm guys on tue said you couldn't just put it on any old device, but they didn't say anything about the legitimacy of putting it on a webos device Jul 15 04:26:00 I run it on my pre2 Jul 15 04:26:04 and use enyo apps daily Jul 15 04:26:11 my main enyo device is my pre2 Jul 15 04:26:41 !!!!! damn! Jul 15 04:26:47 what? Jul 15 04:26:59 you got enyo scroller?!?!? Jul 15 04:27:00 yes Jul 15 04:27:10 NuttyBunny fixed it Jul 15 04:27:19 yayyy Jul 15 04:27:19 lol Jul 15 04:29:19 dwc-, it does not work perfectly, but it should work at least for some degree of testing Jul 15 04:29:37 yep Jul 15 04:29:52 /most/ the stuff works Jul 15 04:30:00 cool... just copied the appropriate bits from the touchpad doctor? Jul 15 04:30:00 I experimented mostly with gestures and dragging, so I had to really have a physical device, the emu and browser just didn't cut it Jul 15 04:30:22 doctor, sdk Jul 15 04:30:38 it's just a framework, a library Jul 15 04:30:47 * dwc- nods Jul 15 04:32:36 twitter fight! Jul 15 04:34:30 again? Jul 15 04:34:43 yep Jul 15 04:35:17 same people almost haha Jul 15 04:36:32 Ok, so, I just read a spoiler from Harry Potter Jul 15 04:36:39 Thanks PatrickC Jul 15 04:36:46 for sending me to twitter :P Jul 15 04:36:52 hahahaha Jul 15 04:37:03 I don't watch harry potter Jul 15 04:37:13 I don't like harry people planting Jul 15 04:37:35 planting? Jul 15 04:38:00 oh yea, that movie is coming out today Jul 15 04:38:07 I remember reading also: "snape kills dumbledore" Jul 15 04:38:27 * dwc- has seen the first movie... and that's it Jul 15 04:38:28 dwc-: harry "potter" Jul 15 04:38:33 * PatrickC saw none Jul 15 04:38:56 * dwc- got dragged to see it Jul 15 04:39:30 I'm off to bed Jul 15 04:39:31 night all Jul 15 04:48:09 hi DontAskAdora! Jul 15 04:55:45 I need a few bonsai trees for my cube, and some fish. Jul 15 04:55:56 Ancient Pond can only do so much. Jul 15 05:00:11 ... Jul 15 05:01:17 hi halfhalo Jul 15 05:08:22 found a hotel yet halfhalo? Jul 15 05:10:24 hola dkirker-touchpad Jul 15 05:10:34 dwc-: i have one booked for two days Jul 15 05:10:41 and i missed mattmcnulty... damn Jul 15 05:16:47 * halfhalo killed the channel. double points! Jul 15 05:17:04 haha Jul 15 05:17:41 a dkirker-touchpad :O Jul 15 05:29:31 so the canadian touchpad runs android 3.0? thats not fair Jul 15 05:29:33 :( Jul 15 05:30:51 * halfhalo wonders... Jul 15 05:48:01 * fxspec06 is exhausted and can't wait to get the vacation he deserves in a week or so Jul 15 05:48:29 goodnight all. i'm gonna give my computer a rest tonight Jul 15 06:21:12 hey there.. Jul 15 06:22:08 Any one there? Jul 15 06:23:07 nope Jul 15 06:23:14 :) atlast Jul 15 06:24:06 need a lil help here with enyo ... Jul 15 06:25:07 sorry, can't help with that Jul 15 06:25:44 okoi Jul 15 06:26:29 what's up? Jul 15 06:27:43 how can i close an app from eyo ? Jul 15 06:28:01 window.close() ? Jul 15 06:28:32 really :P ? Jul 15 06:28:44 I think so Jul 15 06:28:59 let me try ... thanks Jul 15 06:37:03 That works :) Jul 15 06:42:31 Also is there a method to preload all the assets ? Jul 15 06:42:39 like images.. Jul 15 10:34:45 the first webOS London meetup is happening today at 1PM! http://www.meetup.com/WebOS-London/events/25831271/ Jul 15 10:35:01 it'd be awesome if some of you could come Jul 15 11:29:25 Battle.net Mobile Authenticator for WebOS: http://palm.stbuehler.de/de.stbuehler.bnetauth_1.0.5_all.ipk - i'll probably submit it soon, but if someone wants to test it and give feedback, just do :) Jul 15 11:53:40 Xecutah is now available in the WebOS Internals app testing feeds. Jul 15 12:57:01 So, the raise didn't come today.... guess I'll HAVE to spend more time in my app than in my "work"... at least with my app I depend on my work, if I work harder I could earn more :@ Jul 15 12:57:06 sorry about the rant Jul 15 14:16:51 87% of Google+ is male Jul 15 14:16:53 lol Jul 15 14:17:30 lol Jul 15 14:17:34 any db8 gurus here? Jul 15 14:17:37 i would have guessed more, srsly. Jul 15 14:17:54 I'm still waiting for the brazilians to take over G+ like they did with Orkut ;) Jul 15 14:18:09 NuttyBunny: I'm gonna learn node.js today :) Jul 15 14:18:59 twbbas: Excellent, if you find a nice tutorial let me know, I need to do several checks in the filesystem for my app ;) Jul 15 14:19:13 did you like the popup effect yesterday? Jul 15 14:19:38 NuttyBunny: What popup effecT? Jul 15 14:20:23 Photofun 0.9.8? didn't you see it? and the blinking items Jul 15 14:20:34 Nope. Loading up Preware now Jul 15 14:20:41 :D Jul 15 14:22:08 hmm Jul 15 14:22:16 Preware is saying it can't open up saved packages list Jul 15 14:22:52 well 0.9.8 is dl'ing Jul 15 14:23:05 yep, I'd like it if someone could work out why that happens, cause Preware hasn't changed, so it must be a bug in webOS 3.x Jul 15 14:23:09 gotta do some stuff then I'll be back Jul 15 14:23:59 rwhitby: I was having problems with apps lingering yesterday after I deleted them. I had to do a restart and the apps disappeared then. Also, an app didn't fully install yesterday at the same time. Restarted and it was installed. Jul 15 14:24:09 Might be related Jul 15 14:24:10 rwhitby: Does Preware know that 0.9.10 is newer than 0.9.8? Or it sorts the versions as strings? Jul 15 14:24:29 NuttyBunny: what would you expect from Preware? Jul 15 14:24:38 To be the best :D Jul 15 14:24:48 rwhitby: Excellent :D Jul 15 14:25:07 oooo NuttyBunny, nice anmation on bringing the items menu up Jul 15 14:25:16 nice flashing of the items too Jul 15 14:25:30 ok, any db8 novices? Jul 15 14:25:36 the flashing also helps you see what's underneath the item Jul 15 14:26:28 NuttyBunny: There are some times where the flashing cuts off part of an item Jul 15 14:26:45 usually happens when the item is kinda small Jul 15 14:27:01 nevermind, it also happens when it's big Jul 15 14:27:11 haeffb-pre: phofofun 0.9.8 with flashing items ;) Jul 15 14:27:13 mmm... Jul 15 14:27:18 I think it has to do with rotating the item Jul 15 14:27:28 it cuts off more as I rotate Jul 15 14:27:33 twbbas: it didn't happen before, did it? Jul 15 14:27:41 NuttyBunny: Nope Jul 15 14:28:04 I have the blue glasses going vertical and as it flashes, 90% of the image disappears Jul 15 14:28:26 I guess the problem is that some parts of the item are not flashing while other parts are Jul 15 14:28:41 ok, it may have something to do with the way webkit handles the opacity.. Jul 15 14:28:44 NuttyBunny: sry, can't install @ work Jul 15 14:28:44 * NuttyBunny checks in webkit Jul 15 14:28:56 haeffb-pre: no prob :) Jul 15 14:28:57 Happens the most obvious when the items are rotated 90 degrees from where they start Jul 15 14:29:24 hmm now it's not happening Jul 15 14:29:51 nvm it's happening again Jul 15 14:29:54 I'll be right back Jul 15 14:30:33 hehehe. ok.. it works fine in Chrome, will test in phone.. I'll be back later as well, c-ya Jul 15 14:35:53 * twbbas hopes his in-app item gets reviewed today :) Jul 15 14:37:54 given that google+ is google employees + people they know, I'm not too surprised Jul 15 14:38:29 and only really techy people are signed up Jul 15 14:38:42 techy people are usually male Jul 15 14:41:32 * dwc- looks around Jul 15 14:46:18 Any heavy GetGlue stickers users here with Touchpad? :) Jul 15 14:50:09 Are there any node.js tutorials using enyo? Jul 15 14:52:14 twbbas Give me a second and I will post example to github :) Jul 15 14:52:24 ddluk: That'd be perfect! Thanks Jul 15 14:52:46 I need to have my app unzip a file that gets downloaded and saw that node.js is the only way to do that Jul 15 14:58:39 twbbas here you are: https://github.com/ddluk/Enyo-test-service Jul 15 14:58:59 ddluk: Thanks so much Jul 15 14:59:21 :) Jul 15 15:13:05 duuuuuuuude.... where's my car Jul 15 15:16:18 I also find myself with 20+ tabs open at some point during each day Jul 15 15:16:22 always* Jul 15 15:41:28 okay what was that spotify website Jul 15 15:41:32 i need to redeem my thing Jul 15 15:42:02 it started with a -k- Jul 15 15:50:34 klout Jul 15 15:50:42 summatusmentis: Reminder about klout.com :) Jul 15 15:50:51 check if you got your code Jul 15 15:54:00 oh okay klout Jul 15 15:54:36 yeahhhh got my free account Jul 15 15:55:26 whoooo i just got one of the first U.S. spotify accounts because i have klout! Jul 15 15:55:27 lol Jul 15 15:57:45 they don't even have webos as an option on the 'cell phone' drop down box yet. Jul 15 16:07:34 wow spotify is extremely cool. Jul 15 16:07:37 yup Jul 15 16:07:46 try out the app with your free account Jul 15 16:07:47 like Jul 15 16:07:49 tell me if it works for you Jul 15 16:07:49 amazing cool Jul 15 16:07:54 It worked for me fine when I had Free Jul 15 16:07:54 yeah i have it on my phone Jul 15 16:07:57 it works Jul 15 16:08:01 it's not supposed to work though lol Jul 15 16:08:08 that's supposed to cost $10/mo Jul 15 16:08:16 omg really? Jul 15 16:08:23 yeah go to their pricing page Jul 15 16:08:24 i'm never upgrading Jul 15 16:08:26 lol Jul 15 16:08:29 Yeah Jul 15 16:08:36 this is so amazing Jul 15 16:08:45 wow Jul 15 16:08:50 my whole library. streaming. Jul 15 16:09:03 =O Jul 15 16:09:17 it's like instant too Jul 15 16:09:39 * fxspec06 is in love with spotify Jul 15 16:09:55 Tibfib: sorry man i have a new favorite music player Jul 15 16:11:12 Just curious... can you pair a bluetooth laptop with the TouchPad so you can use the laptop's keyboard to type on the TouchPad? Jul 15 16:12:00 hmm i'm not sure. i really don't think so. Jul 15 16:12:08 you'd need special software Jul 15 16:12:23 I wonder if there's software for the iPad that may work with the TouchPad Jul 15 16:12:25 it depends if someone made that software yet. Jul 15 16:12:48 omg twbbas i can't say how much this changes my life. spotify. Jul 15 16:13:26 fxspec06: Yeah I wish the webOS app wasn't terrible Jul 15 16:13:59 yeah it's glitchy Jul 15 16:14:07 and that's an understatement. but it works Jul 15 16:15:20 twbbas: http://pastebin.com/TGavs9uC Jul 15 16:15:24 very simple example Jul 15 16:15:38 slidingpane -> slidingview -> myview Jul 15 16:15:59 myview has a background-color by default, then I show how to change it with className for one of them Jul 15 16:19:52 sugardave: Thank you so much for doing that Jul 15 16:19:59 sugardave: I'm gonna look at it now Jul 15 16:20:28 it's REALLY basic, but should point you in the right direction Jul 15 16:33:35 Well, looks like my Sprint Pre is finally dead. Won't boot. So, might be time to "Sprintify" my Pre2. Where can I find one of those guides? Jul 15 16:34:56 Is there a window control of some kind in webos 3.0? I would like when it boots to load the browser and lock down other windows as unavailable.. I was able to do this in linux with a software called devilspie Jul 15 16:35:28 I finally got my pre from ebay Jul 15 16:35:43 but.. the touchscreen is broke, and it isn't in dev mode Jul 15 16:35:47 I received my touchpad today.. the device is slick Jul 15 16:35:57 I want it in dev mode Jul 15 16:35:58 Found it. http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/WebOS_2_Upgrade#Sprint_Franken_Verizon_Pre_2 Jul 15 16:36:39 PatrickC: meta-doctor it with dev mode on Jul 15 16:36:50 I was trying to avoid a doctor Jul 15 16:37:11 well, I thin kwithout a working screen, then you're pretty much hosed and will have to leave that fantasy behind Jul 15 16:37:20 does webos-internals have documentation on webos3.0? Jul 15 16:37:22 I mean, it only makes sense Jul 15 16:37:22 man... Jul 15 16:37:33 you know...logic and all that Jul 15 16:37:35 sugardave: devicetool.jar work on activated devices? Jul 15 16:37:39 wow thank you so much for spotify. it's like the heavens opened up and it dropped into my life Jul 15 16:37:46 no idea, did you try it? Jul 15 16:38:02 downloading it now Jul 15 16:38:07 fxspec06: invite! Jul 15 16:38:16 don't you have it patrickc Jul 15 16:38:29 klout.com Jul 15 16:38:33 perks Jul 15 16:38:34 I tried Jul 15 16:38:37 I'll try again Jul 15 16:38:48 it's open today Jul 15 16:39:41 anyone want a spotify invite? Jul 15 16:39:43 I got 5 Jul 15 16:41:57 grooveshark is better =P Jul 15 16:42:00 PM me if you want one Jul 15 16:42:05 no.. spotify is :) Jul 15 16:42:09 lies =) Jul 15 16:42:43 spotify is the greatest thing ever Jul 15 16:42:43 evilsushi: it's not. And I've used groovershark for 14+ months Jul 15 16:42:53 s/groovershark/grooveshark/ Jul 15 16:43:03 like better than apple's "oh we're gonna stream to your iphone now" Jul 15 16:43:11 spotify just CRUSHED apple Jul 15 16:43:21 hmmm? Jul 15 16:43:33 iOS 5 -- streams your iTunes library to your iphone Jul 15 16:43:45 so does the grooveshark plus app Jul 15 16:43:48 spotify -- streams your (insert music library) to your (insert device) Jul 15 16:43:49 its been doing that for years. Jul 15 16:44:02 grooveshark plus will actually down your playlist for offline listening Jul 15 16:44:29 but it imports itunes. and you can share with friends. from facebook. and you have access to a bajillion other songs too Jul 15 16:44:39 and you can scrobble Jul 15 16:44:39 evilsushi: spotify has everything tagged properly. that is the main reason I love spotify Jul 15 16:44:42 and star songs Jul 15 16:44:53 fxspec06: grooveshark can do those 2 things too Jul 15 16:45:07 ok well i didn't know that Jul 15 16:45:11 evilsushi: and, spotify does a much better job of integrating your music with online music. Jul 15 16:45:20 and flash sucks, with grooveshark plus you can download an air app for it. Jul 15 16:45:29 air sucks too. Jul 15 16:45:34 its better than air Jul 15 16:45:37 flash* Jul 15 16:45:46 specially if you use linux as a desktop. Jul 15 16:46:07 You're welcome to your opinion... but honestly after using them both, spotify is superior. Jul 15 16:46:33 all i know is that spotify correctly streams my bajillion playlists Jul 15 16:46:51 i see them all on my phone. special characters and all Jul 15 16:48:28 so webos 3.0 doesn't have a dev mode without the sdk it looks like Jul 15 16:48:30 AWESOME!!!! Jul 15 16:49:13 dev mode without the SDK? Jul 15 16:49:23 hmm.. not all songs are streamable Jul 15 16:50:03 ok i have work to do. Jul 15 16:50:40 lol Jul 15 16:51:13 sugardave: I just ran devicetool on my activated device Jul 15 16:51:16 seems to have worked Jul 15 16:51:44 yay? Jul 15 16:52:00 wait.. possibly infinite boot loop? Jul 15 16:52:20 evilsushi: ##DEVMODE# on dialer (or #*DEVMODE#) I alwyas forget which one it is Jul 15 16:52:31 sugardave: both Jul 15 16:52:34 ## is cdma Jul 15 16:52:39 #* is GSM Jul 15 16:52:42 not on a wifi touchpad, not both Jul 15 16:52:54 ah Jul 15 16:53:52 sugardave: you need a spotify invite? Jul 15 16:53:54 and the old stuff works, too...konami code and webos090606 Jul 15 16:53:59 nope, I have a few Jul 15 16:54:05 whyy is my laptop time off by 30 minutes.. Jul 15 16:54:17 sugardave: isn't it webos20090606 ? Jul 15 16:54:24 sure , that one Jul 15 16:54:34 I use the konami code because I'm hardcore like that Jul 15 16:54:38 upupdowndownleftrightleftrightbastart Jul 15 16:54:42 Tibfib_: too much corn in the local vicinity? Jul 15 16:54:42 omg! i installed a windows update last night that FIXED the way my screen shows colours in photoshop Jul 15 16:54:53 sugardave: possibly Jul 15 16:54:55 cool Jul 15 16:56:04 sugardave: nope.. didn't seem to work Jul 15 16:56:18 what? Jul 15 16:56:56 devicetool Jul 15 16:57:00 hey chuqui Jul 15 16:57:29 hey Jul 15 16:57:43 boo.. spotify doesn't sync music from your local machine to your webos device :'( Jul 15 16:57:52 hi sugardave, chuqui! Jul 15 16:57:58 hey dkirker Jul 15 16:58:06 hey dkirker Jul 15 16:58:14 hi PatrickC Jul 15 16:59:11 hi sugardave, chuqui, PatrickC, dkirker Jul 15 16:59:28 hi funkytron Jul 15 16:59:56 hi hi Jul 15 16:59:59 hi adora! Jul 15 17:00:01 'morning! Jul 15 17:00:22 hey DontAskAdora Jul 15 17:02:13 funkatron: I have a 401 error in Spaz that won't go away Jul 15 17:02:31 funkatron: okay Jul 15 17:02:34 err Jul 15 17:02:37 PatrickC: okay Jul 15 17:02:38 I hit "OK" and nothing happens Jul 15 17:02:54 and if I backswipe, it goes to card mode.. Jul 15 17:03:20 so right now I have no information about the error. Jul 15 17:03:25 so I cannot help you Jul 15 17:03:35 could not connect to Oauth Jul 15 17:03:51 screenshot and file at http://help.getspaz.com please Jul 15 17:04:00 morning. Jul 15 17:04:02 but it's almost assuredly an issue with Twitter and/or your device. Jul 15 17:05:23 fixed it Jul 15 17:05:30 closed the app and started it again Jul 15 17:05:46 so you hadn't tried that yet? Jul 15 17:05:48 8D Jul 15 17:16:54 bBbHFTfFyxUmTeYr Jul 15 17:16:59 http://bit.ly/ndcmFI * Jul 15 17:17:35 hey look, it's PatrickC's authorization key Jul 15 17:17:51 that's what I was going to say... who wants to oauth to patrick's whatever Jul 15 17:18:46 hey everyone look it's patrick's key Jul 15 17:19:56 lol Jul 15 17:20:09 find out what the key's to, and your good :P Jul 15 17:20:27 what if i'm not good Jul 15 17:20:47 :cmon: Jul 15 17:20:49 then you don't get the answe Jul 15 17:20:58 click the link, it holds a hint Jul 15 17:21:25 so this is like an adventure game Jul 15 17:21:34 yes Jul 15 17:22:27 but i already have klout Jul 15 17:22:34 twbbas: signed up for spotify thru klout. now referring my own :) Jul 15 17:22:36 dide that just give you a point towards super membership Jul 15 17:22:44 probably Jul 15 17:22:45 its my referral link Jul 15 17:22:52 now he can see how many of us clicked Jul 15 17:23:11 lol Jul 15 17:23:34 "You are more likely to have your message amplified than the average person" Jul 15 17:23:55 great. now how do I unclick that Jul 15 17:24:56 twbbas: what's your twitter handle? Jul 15 17:25:03 you unclick that by clicking this >>> http://tinyurl.com/6eus6xl Jul 15 17:25:39 FAIL! lol Jul 15 17:26:20 "Klout believes you are influential about apps. Jul 15 17:26:31 LOL Jul 15 17:26:42 klout Jul 15 17:26:54 klout doesn't believe anything Jul 15 17:26:59 lol Jul 15 17:28:51 Your Score: Jul 15 17:28:51 45 Jul 15 17:28:51 You are effectively using social media to influence your network across a variety of topics Jul 15 17:29:18 I'm 41 iirc Jul 15 17:44:03 ping? Jul 15 17:44:03 argh Jul 15 17:45:10 huh? Jul 15 17:45:34 coke also has spotify invites, if people don't feel like linking a social media account to klout Jul 15 17:45:56 coke kills Jul 15 17:45:56 really? cool Jul 15 17:46:00 drink Dr. Pepper Jul 15 17:46:09 Dr. Pepper rocks! Jul 15 17:46:09 http://www.spotify.com/us/coca-cola/ Jul 15 17:46:50 here is better. http://bit.ly/ndcmFI Jul 15 17:47:24 * dwc- looks for the "goddamn spammers" link Jul 15 17:47:31 lol Jul 15 17:49:37 Hey guys is there any way i can load external resources using enyo ? Jul 15 17:49:45 coke is bad. i hear it causes you to grab an ak-47 and murder all your friends Jul 15 17:49:47 naughty_david: define "external resources" Jul 15 17:50:35 external js or css Jul 15 17:51:02 you put them in the depends.js file Jul 15 17:51:07 o.o Jul 15 17:51:43 hi oilsworkn Jul 15 17:51:47 hey Jul 15 17:52:17 Internet! leave me alone! let me work!!! Jul 15 17:53:00 sugardave: but will the device allow the app to access external content ? is there any privilege ge to be set ? Jul 15 17:53:27 sugardave: how's palm? Jul 15 17:54:20 oilsworkn: love it, very busy all the time, learning new shit, etc. Jul 15 17:55:03 when something comes out you had a hand in you'll need to point it out Jul 15 17:55:10 naughty_david: I don't think I understand the question....you put in the depends.js the resources you want to use in your app. that's pretty much it Jul 15 17:55:47 "see that button? i put it there" Jul 15 17:56:09 oilsworkn: most of what I've been doing is advising people and debugging their stuff....but soon I think I will have something to do that's quite more involved Jul 15 17:56:18 sugardave: what if that resource is sitting on a server ? will it call it ? Jul 15 17:56:26 like a hosted css ? Jul 15 17:56:29 yes Jul 15 17:56:36 ok Jul 15 17:56:53 "http://www.google-analytics.com/ga.js" for example Jul 15 17:57:11 ok Jul 15 17:57:22 gah, writing Makefiles for LaTeX is a pain in the ass Jul 15 18:04:50 * halfhalo is now back to only webOS stuff for irc. he is breaking down his computer stuff to pack it Jul 15 18:05:10 sucks Jul 15 18:06:11 yeah... then I remember why I'm moving, and all is well Jul 15 18:06:39 why is that? Jul 15 18:06:58 palm internship. Jul 15 18:07:05 oh Jul 15 18:09:22 yeah. Jul 15 18:09:42 * halfhalo shakes fist at hr Jul 15 18:09:59 PatrickC: www.twitter.com/thetylerbayne Jul 15 18:10:16 hr? Jul 15 18:10:27 human resources Jul 15 18:10:41 * NuttyBunny had to finish a document from 12 to 1, it's 1:05, I haven't even started Jul 15 18:11:08 yeah. hr has yet to find a place for me to stay. Jul 15 18:11:20 well you're an intern Jul 15 18:11:28 you get a chair in the break room Jul 15 18:11:37 no, not the couch, thats for real employees to nap Jul 15 18:11:59 lol Jul 15 18:12:59 you at least getting paid? Jul 15 18:13:59 * NuttyBunny just grabbed the Win 7 machine at my side and enabled all the accesibility stuff... it got locked went pressing Apply, and the guy won't be able to disable it :D LOL Jul 15 18:17:15 paid is yes Jul 15 18:18:10 well thats not so bad then Jul 15 18:18:25 * oilsworkn wonders how many #webos regulars DONT work for palm now :/ Jul 15 18:19:08 you... and that one guy Jul 15 18:19:09 halfhalo: just crash in the cube that dkirker was squatting in Jul 15 18:19:20 lol Jul 15 18:19:24 before he officially joined devrel Jul 15 18:19:51 worst case, I can point you at a cheap hotel Jul 15 18:20:17 yeah, #webos was awesome before everyone worked for palm and can't comment on anything Jul 15 18:20:20 lol Jul 15 18:20:21 * NuttyBunny raises hand for oilsworkn Jul 15 18:20:24 issue is cheap hotels require 21 years old Jul 15 18:20:45 poor halfhalo Jul 15 18:20:54 get a grownup to register it for you Jul 15 18:20:54 hahaha Jul 15 18:20:55 * NuttyBunny may not be as #webos regular as others :( Jul 15 18:20:55 oh, then I guess we can look for a cheap *hourly rate* hotel... I bet they don't have age checks Jul 15 18:21:07 lol Jul 15 18:21:59 * halfhalo has Marriott points for hotel for Sunday and Monday nights onlu Jul 15 18:22:22 its gonna be like home alone 2? Jul 15 18:22:40 only with more strippers Jul 15 18:23:36 dwc-: It's my cube now. :) Jul 15 18:23:49 heh Jul 15 18:24:01 dkirker: psh Jul 15 18:24:14 well, the one from engineering is no longer mine, and likely occupied Jul 15 18:24:19 anyway, time to go into work... Jul 15 18:24:24 lies Jul 15 18:24:35 and figure out why I was bit my a one fanged vampire... Jul 15 18:24:44 devrel don't do work Jul 15 18:24:59 halfhalo: just sleep in dkirker's cube... just make sure you're out before he signs off irc from home ;) Jul 15 18:25:05 and he won't even know Jul 15 18:25:15 lol Jul 15 18:26:43 * halfhalo has air mattress Jul 15 18:27:16 time to go into work at 11:20? Jul 15 18:27:25 maybe i should go work for palm Jul 15 18:27:44 like I said, devrel doesn't do work Jul 15 18:27:47 http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?p=41011618#post41011618 <- thread on spotify Jul 15 18:34:34 halfhalo: so what are you going to be interning on? devrel? Jul 15 18:34:40 lol Jul 15 18:34:44 halfhalo on devrel. lol Jul 15 18:34:56 "Your app sucks. Make it better and we will accept it" Jul 15 18:35:02 * Tibfib_ bbl Jul 15 18:35:07 "we tried" Jul 15 18:35:10 "lies" Jul 15 18:35:51 is the drive in the touchpad nand flash? Jul 15 18:37:53 congratulations halfhalo Jul 15 18:37:57 get me some coffee Jul 15 18:38:28 "sudo get me some coffee" Jul 15 18:39:10 twbbas: cool thx Jul 15 18:39:15 what's up? Jul 15 18:40:20 just got done mowing the lawn Jul 15 18:42:27 same here Jul 15 18:42:37 I added you as an "influencer" Jul 15 18:42:52 Huh Jul 15 18:43:16 what? Jul 15 18:43:31 huh Jul 15 18:43:42 * fxspec06 mowed the lawn wayyyyyy earlier today Jul 15 18:43:44 hum Jul 15 18:43:49 * PatrickC did too Jul 15 18:43:57 I moved my neighbors lawn Jul 15 18:44:03 * sugardave paid the neighbor kid to mow the lawn last weekend. Jul 15 18:44:06 and broke my weed eater while doing it Jul 15 18:44:12 i mowed like a thousand yards today Jul 15 18:44:13 sugardave: I'll mow your lawn Jul 15 18:44:29 $20 Jul 15 18:44:35 ok.. Jul 15 18:44:45 how big is your lawn? Jul 15 18:44:56 it's pretty big, but mostly dead, so it works out Jul 15 18:44:57 and will you fly me there to mow it? :) Jul 15 18:45:06 no, I only pay for the mowing part Jul 15 18:45:12 man.. Jul 15 18:45:21 PatrickC: I found some cheap rates Jul 15 18:45:24 for flights Jul 15 18:45:28 lol Jul 15 18:45:36 I get $45 here.. so.. I'm good Jul 15 18:45:37 You can fly there for under $100 Jul 15 18:45:44 make $20 Jul 15 18:45:47 then fly under $100 back Jul 15 18:46:01 and spend $200 to make $20 Jul 15 18:46:04 and you'll get flyer miles Jul 15 18:46:06 doesn't balance out. Jul 15 18:46:06 Yeah it makes sense! Jul 15 18:46:09 you gotta play to win! Jul 15 18:46:13 makes perfect sense Jul 15 18:46:25 I mean, that's HP's philosophy. Pay $50 more to save $50 on the 32GB version Jul 15 18:46:29 now.. if sugardave give me a job at palm as an assistant or something... Jul 15 18:46:46 PatrickC: You can mow Palm's lawn Jul 15 18:46:52 lol Jul 15 18:46:57 that's a big lawn Jul 15 18:47:02 i'll mow adora's lawn Jul 15 18:47:04 They have a lot of grass there? Jul 15 18:47:11 I presume? Jul 15 18:47:15 fxspec06: haha.. Jul 15 18:47:25 DontAskAdora: fxspec06 wants to mow your lawn Jul 15 18:47:31 You can use the prototype webOS lawnmower Jul 15 18:47:40 yeah! Jul 15 18:47:43 sit back and relax while you control it with your TouchPad Jul 15 18:47:43 and the webos toaster Jul 15 18:47:51 eating bagels from the webOS toaster Jul 15 18:48:00 sitting in a webOS La-Z-Boy Jul 15 18:48:09 watching webos tv Jul 15 18:48:22 Sounds like a good job to me Jul 15 18:48:30 yep Jul 15 18:48:39 sugardave: sign me up Jul 15 18:49:59 noooo the webOS 3.0 cookie bug strikes again Jul 15 18:53:57 anyone have a pixi? Jul 15 18:54:37 Yeah Jul 15 18:54:42 I'm gonna sell some Pixi accessories, PM me if interestdd Jul 15 18:54:47 Oh I don't want any Jul 15 18:54:51 My pixi's just for dev Jul 15 18:54:52 ok Jul 15 18:54:56 ah Jul 15 18:55:06 Got it on that $40 sale a while back Jul 15 18:55:10 couldn't pass that up Jul 15 18:55:17 well.. I'm offering the accessories here first :) Jul 15 18:55:23 PM/Email me if interested Jul 15 18:58:44 Who the theck is @lance_a_little on twitter and why am I following him? Jul 15 18:59:06 False alarm. Wasn't following Jul 15 18:59:08 lol Jul 15 19:12:17 * halfhalo is interning in engineering Jul 15 19:14:27 * PatrickC will have a Mac soon Jul 15 19:14:43 * halfhalo has one on his bed Jul 15 19:14:57 * PatrickC takes it Jul 15 19:15:01 see, now I have a mac Jul 15 19:15:18 * halfhalo kills PatrickC Jul 15 19:16:01 * twbbas is a witness Jul 15 19:16:01 I win Jul 15 19:16:25 set wallpaper in the photos app!! wooo Jul 15 19:16:26 HP TouchPad 3.0.2 Update Info Leaked, Shows New Apps, Improvements @ http://www.webosroundup.com/2011/07/hp-touchpad-3-0-2-update-info-leaked-shows-new-apps-improvements/ Jul 15 19:16:47 twbbas: will you defend my death? Jul 15 19:16:58 no Jul 15 19:17:00 too much work Jul 15 19:17:18 * twbbas must code Jul 15 19:17:26 and plus, there's room in this hole for more bodies Jul 15 19:17:29 * NuttyBunny too Jul 15 19:17:34 oh NuttyBunny Jul 15 19:17:38 I took screenshots of the bug Jul 15 19:17:40 want them? Jul 15 19:17:55 I could defend it, "Many said, he had it coming to him" Jul 15 19:18:03 haha Jul 15 19:18:10 thanks dwc-, thanks... :P Jul 15 19:18:21 Jul 15 19:18:24 np ;) Jul 15 19:18:28 twbbas: pleeease, it doesn't happen in the Pre2 or Chrome Jul 15 19:18:31 * NuttyBunny tries the emu Jul 15 19:18:46 it was self defense, I swear Jul 15 19:19:06 NuttyBunny: https://www.box.net/shared/static/1qr2j311901y0umrexp1.png and https://www.box.net/shared/static/lyxmk4nefafnt4gn08p4.png Jul 15 19:19:27 NuttyBunny: It seems like there is a transparent image covering up some of the screen or something Jul 15 19:19:50 those popups were like that after I saw the bug with the flashing Jul 15 19:21:28 that is.. odd Jul 15 19:22:30 that's what she said Jul 15 19:23:41 you went there Jul 15 19:25:24 I have an idea, anyone knows the max value for z-index? Jul 15 19:26:27 twbbas: argh.. yes... it happened with the flashes, right? It happens to me as well on the Pre2 Jul 15 19:26:42 Yes Jul 15 19:27:22 but it dissapears after the flash stops, so, opacity:1 gets rid of it Jul 15 19:29:39 hahahah I just saw the monkey frame Jul 15 19:29:52 LOL Jul 15 19:30:24 btw sometimes when I go to move my picture around it doesn't register my tap/movement Jul 15 19:30:30 monkies! Jul 15 19:30:32 specifically right after I add it Jul 15 19:30:57 NuttyBunny: I just loaded up the app, added my picture, and the messed up menu is still there Jul 15 19:31:05 didn't add any items Jul 15 19:31:29 weird, it seems I messed too much with your webkit ;) Jul 15 19:31:34 when the flashing stops, the messed up item menu is still there Jul 15 19:31:41 brb Jul 15 19:31:43 lol Jul 15 19:33:16 You can use the prototype webOS lawnmower <<<<< where can i download this Jul 15 19:33:37 Go to Lowes and ask for it Jul 15 19:33:56 There should be a nice display with some Veer controllers next to it Jul 15 19:35:00 lol Jul 15 19:35:21 * halfhalo downloads dem doctors for the greater good Jul 15 19:37:45 anyone know how to pass a variable to a new stage Jul 15 19:38:11 fxspec06: in Mojo? Jul 15 19:38:14 var pushMainScene = function(stageController, doRegister) { Jul 15 19:38:14 stageController.pushScene("login", doRegister); Jul 15 19:38:14 }; Jul 15 19:38:23 yeah mojo. ^^^ that's not working Jul 15 19:38:51 pushes the scene but doRegister is undefined Jul 15 19:38:55 and easy way out is to use cookies :D Jul 15 19:39:03 an* Jul 15 19:39:09 oh i know i'm just trying to not use a global variable for once. Jul 15 19:39:16 you are grabbing that arg in the login scene's constructor? Jul 15 19:39:18 yeah for sure Jul 15 19:39:40 uhm yeahi thought i was Jul 15 19:39:47 do i have to link it there to Jul 15 19:40:06 function LoginAssistant(doRegister){} Jul 15 19:40:09 is that not enough Jul 15 19:40:10 function loginScene(theArg) {this.doRegister = theArg;} Jul 15 19:40:14 or something like that Jul 15 19:40:18 yeah Jul 15 19:40:20 that's it Jul 15 19:40:24 okay i will try that. i had a feeling Jul 15 19:41:05 sugardave: I just successfully implemented your example. Works beautifully! Thanks :D Jul 15 19:41:09 np Jul 15 19:41:16 are you going to post it up anywhere for other people to look at? Jul 15 19:41:40 anybody that was here can look at it :D Jul 15 19:41:49 lollllllllllll Jul 15 19:42:03 and we are all that matters! Jul 15 19:42:32 link! Jul 15 19:43:13 does anyone have a link to a tutorial that makes me extremely cool and a genius Jul 15 19:43:44 yes, http://google.com Jul 15 19:43:48 haha Jul 15 19:44:05 put what you want in there and it willteach you Jul 15 19:44:21 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=google Jul 15 19:45:02 hahah Jul 15 19:46:10 * twbbas can't code with a cat sitting on his lap Jul 15 19:46:13 that link doesn't work. i get error: yourLife is not defined Jul 15 19:46:22 ooooo Jul 15 19:46:25 burned Jul 15 19:46:43 lol Jul 15 19:47:11 404 life not found Jul 15 19:47:57 hmm. my desktop is missing java. damn Jul 15 19:48:14 it's with life Jul 15 19:49:40 awwww Jul 15 19:49:57 and they're both with clementine Jul 15 19:51:07 that worked btw Jul 15 19:55:00 on the device is there any way to access the javascript console ? Jul 15 19:55:05 by using novaterm ? Jul 15 19:55:14 for console.log messages? Jul 15 19:55:16 sure Jul 15 19:55:21 they go to /var/log/messages Jul 15 19:55:28 no.. i want to be able to run scripts Jul 15 19:55:35 no Jul 15 19:55:35 its the other way around Jul 15 19:55:45 hmm.. this is gonna be tough to debug Jul 15 19:56:02 if you're writing an enyo app, dev it in webkit Jul 15 19:56:12 its working fine on safari Jul 15 19:56:28 but on the device .. some things are breaking Jul 15 19:56:33 mostly videos not showing up Jul 15 19:57:25 you could always put a text field in the app and eval some js from it Jul 15 19:57:47 hmm thats also smart Jul 15 19:57:55 lemme put to gether a hack Jul 15 19:58:19 thnx Jul 15 20:02:50 The case/keyboard combo is awesome. Jul 15 20:03:10 The case alone, meh. But add a keybord and you have something. Jul 15 20:03:39 yeah, I like mine Jul 15 20:04:02 it was tough to get the case on...I should have cleaned the back of it before putting it in, because I doubt I will be taking it out now Jul 15 20:04:11 * haeffb spent five minutes turning the TP on/unlock/off with the keyboard Jul 15 20:04:26 really? mine jut kinda plopped n Jul 15 20:04:27 in Jul 15 20:04:55 3 out of 4 corners, maybe I did it wrong...but it's there now :D Jul 15 20:04:58 and comes back out pretty easy Jul 15 20:05:37 make sure you put the power button corner in first & take it out last Jul 15 20:05:44 easy as pie Jul 15 20:06:22 now I need netflix Jul 15 20:12:21 * haeffb can't play amazon videos full screen Jul 15 20:13:07 get a couple of black rectangles covering the bottom left of the video Jul 15 20:13:17 :/ Jul 15 20:13:33 I hope I hear back soon about dev pricing Jul 15 20:13:46 that will decide which I get first.. macbook or touchpad Jul 15 20:13:53 didn't we already put something about that? Jul 15 20:13:59 patrickC: wait til u see the villo logo Jul 15 20:14:17 sugardave: about what? or was that to haeffb? Jul 15 20:14:26 fxspec06: awesome! :D Jul 15 20:14:27 ill try to have 0.7.3 or 0.7.4 by 10p Jul 15 20:14:39 it's amazing Jul 15 20:15:13 what was the "flush" email abt? Jul 15 20:15:15 developer pricing...wasn't there something about black belts and such? Jul 15 20:15:22 yeah Jul 15 20:15:29 there you go Jul 15 20:15:29 I need to know what belt I am Jul 15 20:15:47 if I'm green/brown, the tp will have to wait Jul 15 20:15:54 and I'm assuming the tp will wait :/ Jul 15 20:16:00 Pat: if you got a straight flush .. on either of the games... it wasn't recording the stats Jul 15 20:18:13 ah Jul 15 20:19:42 just for that hand Jul 15 20:19:58 like you'd only care if you got one and it didn't show up Jul 15 20:27:26 can you index on an array type field in a db8 database ? Jul 15 20:28:51 * halfhalo yawns Jul 15 20:52:48 torchiere haha Jul 15 20:59:31 Where do we find out what belt we are? I've tried emailing HP 2 times about it and no response Jul 15 21:00:07 "within 15 days" Jul 15 21:00:10 good deal? http://nashville.craigslist.org/ele/2491986952.html Jul 15 21:00:23 PatrickC: Not even that response Jul 15 21:00:32 twbbas: really? Jul 15 21:00:44 talk to chuqui and DontAskAdora Jul 15 21:00:45 and that link has to be a scam Jul 15 21:00:51 how? Jul 15 21:00:53 lol Jul 15 21:00:57 I hope it isnt.. Jul 15 21:01:02 $200 for that good of a computer? Jul 15 21:01:08 That's probably a $1500-$2000 computer Jul 15 21:01:11 they say "a low price" Jul 15 21:01:14 yeah, I know Jul 15 21:01:23 they just want to kidnap you and put you in the back of their van Jul 15 21:01:27 that's all Jul 15 21:01:32 what about this? http://nashville.craigslist.org/sys/2488747055.html Jul 15 21:01:39 maybe force you to write apps for them Jul 15 21:01:39 that's /definitely/ not a scam Jul 15 21:01:48 that's a legit deal Jul 15 21:01:52 hahaha Jul 15 21:01:56 I mean, it has a pic Jul 15 21:02:00 so it's legit Jul 15 21:02:07 I called the guy 2 times Jul 15 21:02:12 he never returned my call Jul 15 21:02:14 lol Jul 15 21:02:32 >:( Jul 15 21:02:37 I really wanted it haha Jul 15 21:02:47 but, I'll just have to wait Jul 15 21:02:56 I just sent a tweet to Richard Kerris about it Jul 15 21:02:59 hopefully he responds Jul 15 21:03:01 there are tons of them here Jul 15 21:03:05 about what? Jul 15 21:03:10 oh, the belts? Jul 15 21:03:27 yup Jul 15 21:04:08 what's your twitter handle? I'm not following u... Jul 15 21:04:14 @TheTylerBayne Jul 15 21:04:17 I sent it to you earlier Jul 15 21:04:55 I was looking for @tylerthebayne Jul 15 21:06:34 so i have an offer to buy a almost new EVO w/ an extended battery for $75.. as much as i hate droid I may just take the guy up on the offer Jul 15 21:07:05 and then franken pre my pre2 Jul 15 21:09:43 http://twitter.com/#!/IngloriousApps/status/91969276986142720 Jul 15 21:09:49 someone needs to make an app Jul 15 21:12:10 http://www.webosroundup.com/2011/07/staples-offering-50-off-hp-touchpad-until-july-16/ Jul 15 21:12:14 $499 32GB TouchPad Jul 15 21:15:14 when patrickc shows up on irc and says "call 911, send help, they harvested my kidney" we'll know where he went and why Jul 15 21:15:25 lol Jul 15 21:17:13 true Jul 15 21:17:46 man, I signed into my twitter account to claim the $5 amazon video on demand credit... and I am reminded immediately of how slow the "New Twitter" is Jul 15 21:18:12 I use Spaz Jul 15 21:18:34 The only thing I miss about web Twitter is that you can see who replies to a post Jul 15 21:18:47 no twitter client does that (that I know of) Jul 15 21:19:08 I don't post. I don't follow. I just occasionally browse. Jul 15 21:20:00 I post. I follow. I browse. Jul 15 21:21:14 I should just rss the ones I might care about Jul 15 21:22:38 twbbas: like, the whole convorsation? Jul 15 21:22:42 spaz does that Jul 15 21:23:50 I mean... if someone posts something that's not in reply to someone else, then you can get a "detail" pane on the right with the replies to it Jul 15 21:24:11 oh, spaz hd? Jul 15 21:24:22 no Jul 15 21:24:24 web Twitter Jul 15 21:24:39 I'll screenshot an example Jul 15 21:26:13 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21217021/Capture3.JPG Jul 15 21:34:27 yay phone is acting all retarded Jul 15 21:34:37 lol Jul 15 21:35:08 jewel is stuck lit, unable to get data connection even tho its full bars, feels like its overheating on the touchstone, stuttering sounds. Jul 15 21:35:10 yay Jul 15 21:36:07 dawm: time to frankenpre? Jul 15 21:36:32 read above? Jul 15 21:37:10 data.. Jul 15 21:37:14 that stinks Jul 15 21:39:09 my phoen always feels really warm on the touchstone Jul 15 21:39:26 same here Jul 15 22:00:23 Spotify invites: http://bit.ly/ndcmFI Jul 15 22:01:28 hello Jul 15 22:05:55 PatrickC: How many more you need? Jul 15 22:06:05 at least 4 Jul 15 22:06:09 I think less though Jul 15 22:07:01 twbbas: what does the free plan get you? Jul 15 22:07:08 I thought it gave you streaming? Jul 15 22:07:16 It does Jul 15 22:07:30 Go to Spotify's website. It has a chart of the different plans. Jul 15 22:07:34 I can hardly stream anything Jul 15 22:07:42 But i've found that the mobile app still works for free accounts Jul 15 22:07:46 What happens when you stream? Jul 15 22:07:49 what happens when you spam 4 more people? Jul 15 22:08:25 twbbas: it says "This track is currently not available for streaming on Spotify" Jul 15 22:08:35 dwc-: you get 1 month free on Premium Jul 15 22:08:36 wow weird Jul 15 22:08:41 I've NEVER had that problem Jul 15 22:09:12 premium is the *only* one that says "Spotify on your mobile" Jul 15 22:09:46 yeah but I've found the free plan still gives access to it for webOS Jul 15 22:09:50 others have too Jul 15 22:09:53 how long is that new harry potter movie? Jul 15 22:09:57 but it says on another page "Everybody with a Spotify account can enjoy music on their cell phone. How much music depends on the type of account you have." Jul 15 22:10:04 dawm: Probably like 10 hours Jul 15 22:10:13 ugh Jul 15 22:10:57 but then here http://www.spotify.com/us/get-spotify/free/ it says no mobile Jul 15 22:11:10 2hrs 5minutes Jul 15 22:11:18 hmm not as long as I thought it'd be Jul 15 22:11:24 I guess it was already half a movie Jul 15 22:11:26 lol Jul 15 22:11:29 wtf, movie ended 2 hrs ago then Jul 15 22:11:31 lol Jul 15 22:11:48 dawm: Someone's at the theaters and you want to keep tabs on them? Jul 15 22:12:02 not tabs Jul 15 22:12:12 but was expecting call/txt Jul 15 22:12:18 hmm Jul 15 22:12:31 Sounds like someone's avoiding you Jul 15 22:12:42 its too soon for that ;p Jul 15 22:12:55 lol Jul 15 22:12:55 haha Jul 15 22:14:37 twbbas: one song streams on my pre2 Jul 15 22:14:50 and on my pre- it says its not allowed to be streamed :P Jul 15 22:14:58 Have you tried using spotify on your computer yet? Jul 15 22:15:07 well mobile spotify works awesome on my pre 2 Jul 15 22:15:16 twbbas: yep Jul 15 22:15:20 downloaded/installed Jul 15 22:15:24 Does the computer have the same error? Jul 15 22:15:31 the phone worked before I installed it on the computer Jul 15 22:15:34 oh yeah i have it on my computer too Jul 15 22:15:39 Oh, is it running on your computer? Jul 15 22:15:47 I know you can't be streaming on two devices at the same time Jul 15 22:15:50 yeah and it streams music Jul 15 22:15:51 I closed it on the computer Jul 15 22:16:03 I'm streaming on my pre2 and browsing on the minus Jul 15 22:16:04 i haven't tried using someone else's music yet Jul 15 22:16:30 nope Jul 15 22:16:33 minus still broke Jul 15 22:17:33 Spotify works fine on my Pre- Jul 15 22:17:39 but I haven't set it up on a Pre 2 at all Jul 15 22:17:44 not with me Jul 15 22:18:06 PatrickC: you're holding it wrong Jul 15 22:18:15 hahaha Jul 15 22:18:56 This isn't an iPhone :D Jul 15 22:19:10 lol Jul 15 22:19:25 bbl Jul 15 22:19:28 cya lol Jul 15 22:22:37 did you guys see this? http://www.bgr.com/2011/07/15/hp-swaps-pre3-1-4ghz-processor-for-dual-core-1-2ghz-chip/#utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheBoyGeniusReport+%28BGR+%7C+Boy+Genius+Report%29 Jul 15 22:23:40 although, precentral is claiming not true? Jul 15 22:29:47 yep, since this morning Jul 15 22:30:12 I bet they incorrectly swapped the tp specs with the pre3 ones Jul 15 22:31:37 that's what it looks like Jul 15 22:31:45 bummer, I got excited for aminute Jul 15 22:32:16 http://www.precentral.net/hp-pre3-has-not-gone-dual-core-we-can-assure-you-1 Jul 15 22:32:28 ill believe govnah Jul 15 22:32:58 or maybe it's like the TouchPad Jul 15 22:33:19 who knew a bump in CPU speed was going to drop a week later Jul 15 22:34:22 dawm: yeah, I'm willing to believe govnah too, although the one thought I had was maybe the pre-release version didn't ahve the spec bump Jul 15 22:34:40 maybe Jul 15 22:35:20 although, at this point I'm assuming just a mistake Jul 15 22:36:21 summatusmentis: It even had some extra html stuff in that line Jul 15 22:36:29 like it was a bad copy-paste Jul 15 22:37:33 yeah Jul 15 22:44:16 any way to give input field focus on demand Jul 15 22:45:49 like on activate Jul 15 22:49:08 maybe.... .focus() ? Jul 15 22:50:31 i tried that, didn't work. it's really not a huge deal Jul 15 22:50:56 but something that would be an extra extra convenience Jul 15 22:53:18 setInitialFocusedElement(); Jul 15 22:53:26 oh it's Mojo? Jul 15 22:53:29 it's mojo Jul 15 22:53:49 then do that :D Jul 15 22:54:01 I can't find my vacuum cleaner Jul 15 22:54:11 woo, no vacuuming! Jul 15 22:55:04 you... can't find it? Jul 15 22:55:18 in what world do you lose something the size of a vacuum cleaner? Jul 15 22:55:23 YEAH IT'S MOJO Jul 15 22:55:32 oops Jul 15 22:55:53 summatusmentis: I agree lol Jul 15 22:55:54 somebody stole my vacuum cleaner once Jul 15 22:56:18 lol yeah it's focused on scene launch. i just would like to push a scene on top of it and have it focused when that scene is popped. i'll try that method haeffb Jul 15 22:56:38 http://www.sublimetext.com/ - if you are open to trying a new text editor :) Jul 15 22:56:50 I like sublime Jul 15 22:57:29 I only just heard of it. Downloading now Jul 15 23:00:52 * Tibfib_ uses sublime text Jul 15 23:01:02 Roomba Jul 15 23:01:09 oh, roomba Jul 15 23:01:12 oooo, fancy Jul 15 23:01:12 that's different Jul 15 23:01:19 maybe someone did steal it Jul 15 23:01:27 it ran away Jul 15 23:01:30 that's a seekrit government robot disguising itself as a vacuum Jul 15 23:01:34 no, folks around here wouldn't have a clue what it is Jul 15 23:01:49 found it hiding in the corner under the plant stand Jul 15 23:02:13 haha, roomba in the hood! Jul 15 23:02:24 woot.com often has them for $130-150 Jul 15 23:02:59 does sublime tell me when I forget a semicolon? Jul 15 23:03:03 or a comma? Jul 15 23:03:05 no Jul 15 23:03:08 if not, sticking with eclipse Jul 15 23:03:11 you have to be on your snap Jul 15 23:03:34 are all roomba's hackable? Jul 15 23:03:45 thinking about embarking on a service/db8 journey Jul 15 23:03:55 summatusmentis: I believe so, although I haven't done it Jul 15 23:04:30 I mean, I don't really understand why you would, I just know you can Jul 15 23:04:54 oh and i've also been searching but can't find anything on checking the model number of the devicve Jul 15 23:05:12 its under the battery Jul 15 23:05:12 liek if app is run on TP or emulator or phone Jul 15 23:05:32 http://www.webos101.com Jul 15 23:06:14 http://www.webos101.com/DeviceInfo Jul 15 23:07:10 thank you Jul 15 23:07:37 In enyo if I have this.$.itemID, how can I call it with having the "itemID" part stored as a variable? Jul 15 23:09:04 this.$[var] Jul 15 23:09:09 it's just an object Jul 15 23:09:14 ah thanks, I was doing this.$.[var] Jul 15 23:09:44 ah, yeah, I do that sometimes too Jul 15 23:14:43 argg, why is my laptop time off by 30 mins Jul 15 23:15:32 so weird Jul 15 23:15:53 when I force an internet time sync, it goes to the proper time for a moment, then it goes back Jul 15 23:16:49 It's a secret plot to make you be late to all appointments... or early Jul 15 23:17:28 late Jul 15 23:17:36 it's really weird. Jul 15 23:20:36 yay! spotify invite finally came Jul 15 23:20:56 spot ify Jul 15 23:21:54 it is a terrible name. Oh well Jul 15 23:23:09 TouchPad is undergoing extensive use testing at the moment. Can it play facebook games? Jul 15 23:23:50 you mean: "Can it play doom"? Jul 15 23:23:58 no, wife is testing Jul 15 23:24:12 farmville, mafiawars, etc Jul 15 23:25:03 nope. can't scroll within the farm. Jul 15 23:25:32 awwwww Jul 15 23:31:34 sweet device name check is E Z Jul 15 23:31:45 super super e z Jul 15 23:40:50 * halfhalo yawns Jul 15 23:42:48 * haeffb might not get the touchpad back Jul 15 23:42:54 haha Jul 15 23:42:59 your wife likes it that much eh Jul 15 23:43:15 looks like it Jul 15 23:43:29 What apps does she use? or does she just play Facebook games? Jul 15 23:43:33 (Just curious) Jul 15 23:44:16 Welp, it looks like my in-app item is getting reviewed today Jul 15 23:44:23 :( Jul 15 23:44:55 20 mins until 5pm in CA. I assume everyone will go home at 5 Jul 15 23:46:31 i doubt it Jul 15 23:46:38 they work crazy hours there Jul 15 23:47:03 Then I guess there's still a chance they'll solve the bug then :D Jul 15 23:50:37 mainly facebook stuff Jul 15 23:51:09 How would I go about changing the tap highlight color of enyo.Item? Jul 15 23:51:19 or where can I find this information? Jul 15 23:53:36 you know what the mail app needs Jul 15 23:53:41 is a "show me only unread messages" button Jul 15 23:53:46 Yes! Jul 15 23:53:47 been wishing for that for a long time Jul 15 23:53:51 source/palm/Themes/Onyx/Item.css ? Jul 15 23:55:03 "later in the month will be kindle" # rawr want now! Jul 15 23:55:31 i guess its ok, it works on my nook color Jul 15 23:55:39 shrug Jul 16 00:02:26 amazon streaming doesn't work full screen in ubuntu/firefox either Jul 16 00:02:34 bastiges Jul 16 00:03:14 haeffb: How can I override those styles in enyo? Jul 16 00:03:20 Is there like a 1 line thing? Jul 16 00:03:23 oh wait nvm Jul 16 00:03:25 I figured it out :D Jul 16 00:03:38 Thanks Jul 16 00:04:23 plays fine in a window Jul 16 00:05:03 does anyone know if the pre2 dev program exists still? or did that change with the new program? Jul 16 00:05:31 summatusmentis: It still exists https://developer.palm.com/content/resources/develop/developer_device_program.html Jul 16 00:05:31 sugardave: does the current version still print funky? Jul 16 00:05:52 oh, there it is. I assume that means the free pre2 program no longer exists though Jul 16 00:06:09 why? Jul 16 00:06:16 At the bottom it's a Pre 2 program Jul 16 00:06:28 "If you'd like to request a developer discount on a Pre 2, they're still available by requesting a coupon from pdc@palm.com, with "Pre 2 device program" in the subject line." Jul 16 00:06:41 that's for the coupon though Jul 16 00:06:59 which gets you the $279 price? Jul 16 00:07:04 "the free pre2 program" Jul 16 00:07:09 Ohh you said free Jul 16 00:07:18 Yeah, I don't think that's still going on Jul 16 00:07:27 right, ok :) Jul 16 00:07:39 humm Jul 16 00:08:19 cool I just got $5 to Amazon VOD Jul 16 00:08:39 Click this link: http://amzn.to/oXQePf Jul 16 00:08:51 * haeffb started a free month of Prime yesterday Jul 16 00:09:02 my free year of Student Prime just ended :( Jul 16 00:09:35 summatusmentis: mine ends next month Jul 16 00:09:35 got my case & keyboard shipped overnight Jul 16 00:09:48 hmm Jul 16 00:09:56 haeffb: I haven't downloaded anything new....can't look into it right now, though Jul 16 00:10:13 Tibfib: trying to decide if the new price is worth it Jul 16 00:10:21 summatusmentis: I think I'm gonna go for it Jul 16 00:10:32 maybe Jul 16 00:10:38 I haven't bought much from amazon lately Jul 16 00:10:39 orly? the VOD stuff is compelling Jul 16 00:10:41 so I dunno Jul 16 00:10:52 I don't reaaaally watch vod Jul 16 00:10:56 yeah, I'll be a grad student, textbooks is a big deal to me Jul 16 00:11:17 someone should buy me a macbook air when the new ones come out Jul 16 00:11:31 sugardave: lame. It's Friday night. What else you gonna do? Jul 16 00:11:32 you're an intern now, buy it yourself :) Jul 16 00:11:34 and my year is up in august.... totally buying another year tho Jul 16 00:11:47 haeffb: would you believe....more meetings? Jul 16 00:11:53 'cuz it's true Jul 16 00:12:06 sugardave, workin for the man ain't all it's cracked up to be Jul 16 00:12:25 it's for the good of humanity Jul 16 00:12:37 well in that case, carry on Jul 16 00:12:53 and I will have a beer and watch Amazon VOD Jul 16 00:13:26 woo, 32 days in a row +100F Jul 16 00:13:30 awe SOME Jul 16 00:14:59 sounds like hell Jul 16 00:15:11 sugardave, workin for the man in Texas ain't all it's cracked up to be Jul 16 00:15:38 sugardave: kansas has been baaad too Jul 16 00:15:53 it's only 84 here Jul 16 00:16:22 "feels like" 105 Jul 16 00:16:53 oh, it's only 14 days in a row, 32 total Jul 16 00:17:04 "feels like" 72 since I'm inside in the AC Jul 16 00:17:46 hah Jul 16 00:39:35 it's a nice warm 68F near palm HQ Jul 16 00:39:47 :/ Jul 16 00:40:26 yea, it's been a pretty cold week Jul 16 00:40:38 last week it was high 90s Jul 16 00:41:31 * NuttyBunny has a hard time interpreting F :( Jul 16 00:41:41 subtract 30, divide by 2 Jul 16 00:41:58 gives you a reasonable approximation for typical earthly temps Jul 16 00:42:00 nice :) Jul 16 00:42:20 or if you want to be precise, - 32 and multiply by 5/9 Jul 16 00:42:46 "or just get your webOS super phone and let it do the dirty work" ;) Jul 16 00:43:02 or ask google or wolfram alfa, or a number of things, yea Jul 16 00:44:10 or just ignore people talking about irrelevant temperatures Jul 16 00:44:50 or just pretend F === C Jul 16 00:44:55 no problems there. Jul 16 00:44:58 yep.. btw, haeffb, your request made my app glitchy :P Jul 16 00:45:46 just live around -40 and it's irrelevant whether F or C Jul 16 00:45:54 ProTip: never never never listen to me. Jul 16 00:47:12 ProTip: listen to haeffb when he says to never never never listen to him Jul 16 00:48:27 Catch-22 Jul 16 00:59:23 protip: never listen to halfhalo Jul 16 01:00:28 ProTip: Always listen to the ones that tell you not to listen to them Jul 16 01:01:07 h o l y c r a p Jul 16 01:01:08 http://www.bgr.com/2011/07/15/twitter-now-delivers-350-billion-tweets-each-day/ Jul 16 01:04:01 not when their insane! Jul 16 01:04:09 s/their/they're/ Jul 16 01:04:45 i own my insanity, thankyouverymuch Jul 16 01:24:54 anyone with NDrive info in the room? Jul 16 01:27:00 I love spotify Jul 16 01:27:29 waiting for an invite Jul 16 01:29:00 need one? Jul 16 01:29:05 * halfhalo wants one Jul 16 01:29:20 supposed I have some, let me see Jul 16 01:30:01 oh wait, no it wants me to spam 5 people Jul 16 01:30:30 * Tibfib has one for the highest bidder Jul 16 01:30:31 I thought I had 5 invites, sorry about that Jul 16 01:31:36 my life is empty without spotify Jul 16 01:31:55 but would probably be empty with spotify, so no worries. Jul 16 01:32:07 bastid Jul 16 01:39:59 so good: http://games.adultswim.com/give-up-robot-2-online-game.html Jul 16 01:43:28 * rwhitby probably would be geo-restricted by spotify Jul 16 01:44:56 yep. And you do temperatures funny. Jul 16 02:08:25 anyone try and add a +1 button yet? Jul 16 02:12:01 sugardave: you should make HP get a Google+ app Jul 16 02:15:19 summatusmentis: agreed **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jul 16 02:59:57 2011