**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Sep 02 02:59:57 2011 Sep 02 03:00:15 what a waste of a project that is Sep 02 03:00:27 if anything, it should be porting webOS to another devices to keep it going Sep 02 03:06:38 wire should have an option to keep the keyboard up all thetime Sep 02 03:06:47 *wirc Sep 02 03:14:04 whats the recommended icon sizes again Sep 02 03:19:56 hi all Sep 02 03:21:07 so i believe I've got it all up and running now. Sep 02 03:21:28 it's gonna take me a bit to get used to eclipse again, was using komodo Sep 02 03:21:40 JenP you should use titanium Sep 02 03:21:50 titanium? Sep 02 03:21:52 it's same thing just better =) haeffb told me about it Sep 02 03:22:08 http://www.appcelerator.com/products/titanium-studio/ Sep 02 03:22:11 well haeffb would be the one to know. Is hp supporting it? Sep 02 03:22:19 it's eclipse Sep 02 03:22:32 with a different name Sep 02 03:22:40 i'll check it out Sep 02 03:23:05 yeah. it's a lil cleaner and better than eclipse IMO Sep 02 03:23:19 it loads all your old workspaces too Sep 02 03:23:24 all the eclipse ones* Sep 02 03:23:58 sigh I need one to load all my komodo packages and convert them over. Sep 02 03:24:36 you can create an empty project Sep 02 03:24:52 then just copy the stuff to the folders. not too shabby Sep 02 03:25:30 cool thanks fxspec06 Sep 02 03:25:54 mhmm =) Sep 02 03:26:26 Typewriter should use Villo Sep 02 03:28:29 what does the villo in sprts live hd doe Sep 02 03:28:30 do* Sep 02 03:28:41 i see the login box but it doesn't do anything.. Sep 02 03:36:46 jenp I like komodo .. have never used eclipse .. compare? Sep 02 03:37:12 I really like komodo because of the plugin templarian made Sep 02 03:37:42 but now it's out of date and so i'm stuck deciding....do i go with what I know is being supported. Or what I hope will be supported Sep 02 04:03:11 hey all Sep 02 04:03:13 what's up? Sep 02 04:03:35 kesne: ping? Sep 02 04:08:12 Tibfib: okay... I was wrong. I use google reader now, and I just bought nomnomnom. Sep 02 04:08:35 google reader and nomnomnom are amazing :) Sep 02 04:08:45 Tibfib: are notifications suppose to work Sep 02 04:08:46 ? Sep 02 04:09:49 this script is really making me mad... Sep 02 04:22:33 hey guys whats the touchpad emu's commands to close a window Sep 02 04:23:53 palm-launch -c Sep 02 04:23:53 ? Sep 02 04:24:20 key shortcut Sep 02 04:24:24 and hey JenP, long time no see! Sep 02 04:24:44 Hi PatrickC_TP! Sep 02 04:25:03 * PatrickC_TP mumbles at Inglorious Apps Sep 02 04:25:19 kesne: you around? Sep 02 04:39:48 Patrick .. http://ericbla.de/gva2.jpg .. hope that link works I am not at the computer Sep 02 04:40:06 lol Sep 02 04:40:47 EricBlade-TP: awesome!! Sep 02 04:41:21 if I can fix my bug with it not talking to the servers right for certain things and not others.. then I'd be all set Sep 02 04:42:08 argh.. why does this have to be hard.. Sep 02 04:42:17 dkirker: you good with Enyo and sliding panes? Sep 02 04:44:31 because if it were easy then everyone would've done it Sep 02 04:44:35 or is anyone good with sliding panes? Sep 02 04:45:17 I just followed the 3 pane example in the docs and made it two Sep 02 04:45:24 I did that Sep 02 04:45:34 now I need my button to change what the second pane displays Sep 02 04:45:52 I wanted to add multiple views, but I'm not sure how to get my code to work properly if I do that Sep 02 04:46:07 yeah that's what I wanted todo Sep 02 04:48:15 I was thinking sliding pane > sliding view > pane > ??? but I realised I wasn't sure how to make all my code talk together if I don't have it all in the same kind. Sep 02 04:51:19 I think I *might* have it Sep 02 04:58:05 and it throws no errors, but doesn't work.. fun.. Sep 02 05:01:59 does anyone have the shortcut keys to the TP emu Sep 02 05:02:00 ? Sep 02 05:36:34 am I here. Sep 02 05:36:37 ? Sep 02 05:36:52 EricBlade-TP: Yeap Sep 02 05:37:01 ty Sep 02 05:38:49 yep Sep 02 05:44:54 hello is there something like powerpoint remote?` Sep 02 05:50:54 Whats the process for taking screenshots from the touchpad Sep 02 05:51:35 CTLAdvance: Center button + Power button Sep 02 05:51:41 Just a short press simultaniously Sep 02 05:51:47 nice Sep 02 05:52:09 Is there a default header-shadow kind? Sep 02 05:53:37 not sure Sep 02 05:54:03 hmm Sep 02 05:54:04 Er Sep 02 05:54:05 not kind Sep 02 05:54:06 class Sep 02 05:56:37 technikfreak45: in preware there is Sep 02 05:56:42 kesne: header shadow? Sep 02 05:56:49 PatrickC_TP: Yeah Sep 02 05:56:57 example? Sep 02 05:57:05 just sharowing around the header? Sep 02 05:57:11 shadowing* Sep 02 05:57:29 The subtle shadow under the header in most webos app Sep 02 05:59:43 PatrickC_TP : wahts the name?? Sep 02 06:00:18 lemme see Sep 02 06:00:31 it was released yesterday IIRC Sep 02 06:01:21 bluetooth-presenter Sep 02 06:03:22 but it goe also over wlan? Sep 02 06:04:19 idk Sep 02 06:04:24 never used i Sep 02 06:04:27 it* Sep 02 06:05:01 I'm off to bed Sep 02 06:05:05 night all Sep 02 06:05:51 ok thx Sep 02 06:06:14 np Sep 02 06:11:38 ebay is highway robbery Sep 02 06:11:44 when did they jack up their fees Sep 02 06:13:20 someone wants to trade a pre 2 for a 32gb touchpad heh Sep 02 06:17:32 precentral people are cheap Sep 02 06:18:48 is anyone having trouble accessing their apps Sep 02 06:18:56 through the palm portal Sep 02 06:19:24 maybe they are doing some server maint Sep 02 06:33:42 Jack87: PING Sep 02 06:34:13 kesne, hola! you are up late Sep 02 06:34:20 school hasnt started yet? Sep 02 06:34:22 I always am Sep 02 06:34:23 Not yet Sep 02 06:34:28 lucky! Sep 02 06:38:03 plov: if you had a $150 32g touchpad that wouldn't be a bad deal for an unlocked off-contract pre2 Sep 02 06:38:51 esp since pre2 can be sprintified where veer and pre3 can't Sep 02 06:39:44 does it two weeks to approve apps or is it more like two days Sep 02 06:42:58 Hi WebOS. Sep 02 06:43:12 hey Sep 02 06:45:23 WebOS: will you die? Sep 02 06:53:27 how true, he leaves you guessing just like how hp leaves you guessing Sep 02 06:55:00 i'm coming to a conclusion that something is fundamentally broken in webos with https handling. i can only get a handful of https urls to reliably give back what i expect Sep 02 06:55:35 outside of the browser. inside the browser, it works fine. in all the rest of the stuff, no go Sep 02 07:44:41 hmmmm what do I want for dinner.. Sep 02 07:45:01 Steak? Sep 02 08:03:26 ewww, don’t want to cook :( Sep 02 08:03:42 besides, I’m halfway through renovating the kitchen, makes it inconvenient ; Sep 02 08:06:57 so uh how do you turn off webos recommending you search engines Sep 02 08:44:18 Hi guys, is there a way to see the reviews for my app? I actually have no webOS device and on the website I just see the star rating but no text Sep 02 08:49:56 ArtworkAD, nope. Sep 02 08:50:22 ok Sep 02 08:51:16 there used to be Sep 02 09:55:28 I see the Samsung CEO has wiped a big bum on the dreams of anyone expecting them to swoop in and start putting out WebOS phones Sep 02 10:02:38 Alanrogers, you are just a ray of sunshine. Sep 02 10:03:24 Hah! But a good reminder to developers to get their apps out now to milk the existing customer base for all they are worth - no point waiting for tomorrow because it's unlikely to exist! Sep 02 10:48:59 is there any kind of recovery, or imaging tool like NANDROID for android to fully image your webos setup to back it up? Sep 02 11:29:06 hi Sep 02 11:35:48 lonequid not much of a need for it really. There's webOS doctor and there's webOS backup and the preware save/restore program, between all of them, you'll get all your data back. Sep 02 11:40:03 ah how'd I miss save/restore in preware, thanks Sep 02 11:41:39 anyone get this message before Sep 02 11:41:39 The application version and/or package ID in your IPK file name does not match the information in the package json file(s). Please correct this, repackage and try again. Sep 02 11:42:01 when submiting an app Sep 02 11:42:09 and have everything actually match Sep 02 12:58:37 hi Sep 02 12:59:05 what do I have to do to have ssh access to my touchpad, in order to read debug logs,.. ? Sep 02 13:01:01 install sdk, plug in usb, use novaterm Sep 02 13:01:53 novaterm says unable to find device Sep 02 13:03:03 ah, and turn on developer mode on the device Sep 02 13:03:12 already done Sep 02 13:03:23 then call HP support. Sep 02 13:03:26 but maybe that's because it's an old version of the sdk.. Sep 02 13:03:26 lol Sep 02 13:32:20 samsung not interested in webos apparently Sep 02 13:38:27 well, it isn't surprising Sep 02 14:19:21 Plov - I love the spin some are putting on it "why when the CEO of Samsung says they will never buy WebOS, it's a clear sign that he wants to license it!" Sep 02 14:28:51 anyone used the vpn on the touchpad? Sep 02 14:29:04 (vpnc i should ask) Sep 02 14:40:34 boop Sep 02 14:42:47 i will take that as not many people have Sep 02 14:44:26 no major manufacturers interested in webos = uh oh Sep 02 14:44:34 Surprised? Sep 02 14:44:50 no, but just the fact that it's pretty confirmed now Sep 02 14:46:13 riskish: ask here Sep 02 14:46:41 but it seems to me like you're fishing for 'like's Sep 02 14:47:57 lol samsung would rather support ... bada Sep 02 14:48:05 the hideous os Sep 02 15:22:23 hola Sep 02 15:23:20 yo Sep 02 15:37:25 what's up Sep 02 15:40:48 hotdp: \ 0 / Sep 02 15:41:26 fxspec06: / o \ Sep 02 15:49:45 whee Sep 02 15:49:50 pre2 arrived today Sep 02 15:50:14 in 1 week, with usps slow mail international Sep 02 15:50:21 * Shadyman1 is impressed Sep 02 15:51:13 hello Sep 02 15:51:21 who has been doing headless apps in Enyo? Sep 02 15:51:40 So.. Services? Sep 02 15:51:48 * Shadyman1 arches an eyebrow Sep 02 15:51:59 Those things scare me. Sep 02 15:52:24 no, a real app Sep 02 15:53:44 come on, I know I'm not pioneering this! Sep 02 15:57:17 haha Sep 02 15:58:12 i wonder if our pre 2's will get a webos update Sep 02 15:58:13 :P Sep 02 15:58:58 sugardave; you are Sep 02 16:00:42 hotdp: awesome Sep 02 16:01:28 I can open the view in Chrome and it's all perfect, but when I launch the app and have my "controller" open the same view, no DOM elements are rendered. They are there, just all invisibile Sep 02 16:01:32 it's really disturbing Sep 02 16:06:39 So kinda like this? http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2009/11/10/129023558841967049.jpg Sep 02 16:12:47 Shadyman: lol, yeah pretty much Sep 02 16:12:52 I think I just noticed something, though Sep 02 16:13:08 order of execution of some of my js is different between browser and app Sep 02 16:13:27 so I'm not having what I expect to have at certain points :/ Sep 02 16:13:42 I expect to have beer at certain points. Sep 02 16:13:53 but that's just me Sep 02 17:17:35 hp support is telling me i need to *fax* proof of purchase in, they cant accept email. what decade are we in again? Sep 02 17:18:07 heh Sep 02 17:18:16 i dont even have a land line with which to hook up a fax! Sep 02 17:18:24 email-to-fax? Sep 02 17:18:37 sure, and I can go to kinkos or work. but really. Sep 02 17:18:43 heh Sep 02 17:19:19 this all after the tech last week told me to email it to him. :) Sep 02 17:19:41 for a touchpad you ordered pre-firesale? Sep 02 17:19:43 so ya, that 'startup' idea for the GBU might be a good idea. :) Sep 02 17:19:46 yes. Sep 02 17:20:05 bought at midnight on launch day, they need proof that it qualifies for the $50 app catalog credit. Sep 02 17:20:19 HP makes fax machines so it tries to keep it alive every way it can! Sep 02 17:20:45 ah, of course. they likely print it out with that HP ink on the other end too Sep 02 17:21:39 you crazy they would never pay that much for their ink Sep 02 17:23:10 maybe when they come back on the line they'll give me the telex number to followup with Sep 02 17:24:38 you can use some kind of ad-supported faxing website for free anyhow no? Sep 02 17:25:24 hm perhaps Sep 02 17:25:58 so which ones not going to flood me with spam .. recommendations? Sep 02 17:26:21 use a throwaway email shrug Sep 02 17:41:03 why nobody is talking Sep 02 17:46:27 someone tell me how to turn off webos suggesting me search engines! Sep 02 17:46:38 lol Sep 02 17:48:05 uh - meego "temporarily" paused Sep 02 17:57:04 refresh my memory. when signing up for a new profile, are you required to confirm it via email before you can use it, no right? Sep 02 17:57:18 no Sep 02 17:57:26 okay, thanks Sep 02 17:57:33 hm. Sep 02 17:58:03 i have the impression, that i often sound rude if writing english. Sep 02 17:58:12 rwatkins: eh, that reminds me, I need to talk to them about the cracking on the side of my device Sep 02 17:58:40 summatusmentis: ya, have that on mine too - the tech told me there was now a 365 day hardware warrenty Sep 02 17:58:49 though no clue what stock they'd use to fix it if i asked. Sep 02 18:00:03 well, I already had my original one replaced Sep 02 18:00:09 this is the replacement one that's cracking Sep 02 18:00:28 (I also bought a firesale one, still NIB) Sep 02 18:00:34 you both buy it and return it to HP? Sep 02 18:00:43 what? Sep 02 18:02:33 you know what would be neat? a webos phone as a remote for the touchpad music player Sep 02 18:02:35 i had cracking issues with my first 32 GB Sep 02 18:02:37 did you buy the TP that cracked directly from HP, and return it to them? Sep 02 18:02:40 but the 16GB ones are fine Sep 02 18:02:50 or did you get it somewhere like bestbuy but HP still repaired it? Sep 02 18:03:00 rwatkins: I bought the original TP that cracked from Best Buy, HP sent me a refurb replacement Sep 02 18:03:07 the refurb is now cracking Sep 02 18:03:19 just wondering what you are doing to cause the cracks? Sep 02 18:03:24 using a case? Sep 02 18:03:28 ah, ok. may replace my orig one, as i have a third now Sep 02 18:03:40 I am using a case, butit's nothing I'm doing that's causing the cracks Sep 02 18:03:44 it's a manfacturing defect Sep 02 18:04:49 wonder why both of my 16GB units are fine Sep 02 18:04:55 and the 32GB cracked in under a week Sep 02 18:05:27 I don't honestly know, but apparently it's common enough for webos-roundup to have an article about it Sep 02 18:05:36 which is where I first heard about it Sep 02 18:15:01 rwatkins: I'd imagine for internal parts, they'll use bits and pieces from the demo models Sep 02 18:15:16 and they've got to have a large stock of replacement parts regardless, since they did a full product launch Sep 02 18:15:27 they had to be ready for warranty claims, etc Sep 02 18:15:51 with proper planning you would think ... Sep 02 18:16:04 Heh. True. Sep 02 18:16:18 No comment. Sep 02 18:16:54 wow: http://vr-zone.com/articles/hp-touchpad-at-comex-2011-draws-huge-angry-crowd/13460.html Sep 02 18:17:19 WHARGARBL Sep 02 18:17:22 "huge and angry crwod" Sep 02 18:18:16 They mad, bro Sep 02 18:18:28 because they weren't the first 200 Sep 02 18:18:38 does anyone knows if enyo will come to the pre2? Sep 02 18:21:10 leiru: last month the answer to that was "public announments said yes" now, who knows. Sep 02 18:22:49 i want to start developing again. for webOS. that waiting for new hardware that would keep the platform alive is boring. Sep 02 18:23:50 Though keep in mind you have massive numbers of users now ;) Sep 02 18:24:03 now after two weeks the plan is to build something in maybe node and backbone primarily. Sep 02 18:25:01 app catalog: "34 reviews" "23 positive" "2 negative" Sep 02 18:25:07 time to count again guys Sep 02 18:25:45 Shadyman: i think same size as the webos 1-2 phone-base. or slighty smaller. Sep 02 18:26:11 some spots of webOS are amazingly good and in others it looks like its coded by people that just didnt give a damn Sep 02 18:26:54 opensourceplz Sep 02 18:26:56 kthx Sep 02 18:27:13 I kid. Sep 02 18:27:19 rwatkins: What kind of areas are lacking? Sep 02 18:27:32 like that one. Sep 02 18:27:45 does someone has an app with multiple app descriptions (2 or more languages)? Sep 02 18:28:08 whoever wrote the app catalog app is clearly getting the data for "reviews total" in the header from one spot, but the positive and negative review totals from another. Sep 02 18:28:12 and they dont add up. Sep 02 18:28:34 so even if you cant fix the data source, atleast calculate the total from the ones you are displaying. Sep 02 18:28:39 heh Sep 02 18:29:10 never paid enough attention to it :x Sep 02 18:29:49 rwatkins: i think i have submitted 15 bugs in last year regarding the app cat, submissions and "my apps" Sep 02 18:30:21 clearly limited resources are an issue, but some of these .. really. Sep 02 18:33:07 rwatkins: my last one (don't know if it's fixed now) was with 2 languages for the app description at submission, you could click the dropdown in the last screen to change the language e.g. for reading correction and finding errors, but language wasn't changed. Sep 02 18:34:14 i often having german and english as description languages. Sep 02 18:34:24 i'm Sep 02 18:34:29 leiru: ok, but I'm sure that affects, what, like 3 apps? Sep 02 18:34:48 Time to go hunt down service providers for my pre2 Sep 02 18:34:49 and is not something a customer sees. Sep 02 18:35:06 rwatkins: i would say, this effects nearly all app-submissions from german developers :) Sep 02 18:35:15 in a bug triage, I'd vote that one down too. :) Sep 02 18:35:20 sure all 4 of you. :) Sep 02 18:36:57 rwatkins: wait until palm is based in germany, and us-developers will in the second choice/place ;) jk Sep 02 18:37:14 + be Sep 02 18:37:22 ya, but then it'll only be an enterprise software business and ill not care. Sep 02 18:38:28 lol Sep 02 18:38:42 yes, because there are just enterprise software companies in germany/europe.. Sep 02 18:39:15 i was sayin that by the time they turn into SAP and are based in Germany, they'll be an enterprise software company. Sep 02 18:39:44 my software company also has its biggest office in Berlin, so I'm not ignorant. Sep 02 18:41:02 rwatkins: oh. Sep 02 18:41:52 ;) Sep 02 18:42:18 but but... i wanted to buy them! Sep 02 19:20:25 Is there an enyo ui controls example app? to show all the built in enyo controls? Sep 02 19:21:21 Hello Sep 02 19:21:41 anybody on that can answer a quick question with regards to Overclocking and profile in Govnah Sep 02 19:22:30 in govnah: I use to see Profile of Nothing and my cpu freq was 1.78. but I picked ONdemand tcl1512 and cpu 1 freq only goes max of 1.52 how do i get it back to 1.78? Sep 02 19:22:53 choose a different kernel Sep 02 19:23:21 ok, how do i do that? can I just change the Max Feq to 1.728? Sep 02 19:23:36 well i guess it could depend on the kernel Sep 02 19:23:42 what kernel do you use atm Sep 02 19:23:46 uberkernel? Sep 02 19:24:04 F15c Eagle Sep 02 19:24:22 it should go up farther but im not sure i dont use that kernel Sep 02 19:25:44 man:( i wish I could have waved that profile but had no ption:( Sep 02 19:25:45 hemna: stylematters? Sep 02 19:26:03 for enyo? Sep 02 19:26:16 hemna: yes Sep 02 19:26:24 ah ok I'll look for that thanks Sep 02 19:26:43 caleb: I can always remove Gova and then F15c and reinstall correct? or try another kernel? Sep 02 19:27:05 sure but there should be posts about it on precentral Sep 02 19:27:17 yeah..could not find any profile stuff... still reading Sep 02 19:27:34 i guess 1.512 is fine for now:( Sep 02 19:29:45 snowwhitie: hah, I find the " Sep 02 19:29:53 the ":(" sorta funny Sep 02 19:29:56 Is there a way to add new profile in Govvnah? Sep 02 19:30:10 "I guess I'll have to settle for something still way above factory settings" :-P Sep 02 19:30:42 no its just i had it at 1.78 and it was great. Sep 02 19:30:50 so now its 1.5 i am trying to see what I did. Sep 02 19:30:57 i'm already thankful for it being fast as is... Sep 02 19:33:13 I'm just kidding around Sep 02 19:34:05 just gotta laugh when you see mojo apps on the TP in landscape mode were the button stretches the entire width of the screen. 1024px of clickable width! Sep 02 19:35:09 now that's what I call fat finger friendly Sep 02 19:35:48 :) hehe Sep 02 19:36:03 Loudergood: we call it at work "trucker finger friendly" Sep 02 19:36:10 me tinkering is going to blow this TP up :) Sep 02 19:39:32 Ok. I got 1.728 going lol.. let see if it dies when i restart Sep 02 19:41:01 i got an iphone from a friend.. its a 3gs lol. I wonder what I can do with it hehe.. Sep 02 19:41:09 wonder if I could send back a 32 GB TP thats got the cracking issue and just say "just put a new white plastic shell on it instead" Sep 02 19:41:25 yikes. crackling noise.. :( Sep 02 19:42:08 cracking Sep 02 19:42:10 not crackling Sep 02 19:42:33 my two years on ATT is up in Nov. with no new webOS hardware, looks like its gonna be an iPhone5 for me. Sep 02 19:42:49 rwatkins: I just bought a pre2 to tide me over for a wh ile Sep 02 19:42:51 while* Sep 02 19:42:52 ehh Sep 02 19:42:59 id rather have an anroid device Sep 02 19:43:08 I have a pre2 now. wanted the pre3 Sep 02 19:43:11 rwat: is your iphone JB'ed? Sep 02 19:43:18 no Sep 02 19:43:24 Caleb: I really can't stand android Sep 02 19:43:34 and my iphone is a 3GS Sep 02 19:43:34 i like it better than ios Sep 02 19:43:42 so is the one I have here Sep 02 19:43:53 my nexus s is pretty nice, but tmobile, not ATT. Sep 02 19:43:57 its a Iphone 3gs with 3.1.2 with some JB'ed called "spirit" Sep 02 19:44:17 Caleb: I don't, iOS is at least polished. Android feels like children put it together and made all the parts only sort of fit Sep 02 19:44:27 don't get me wrong, the google integration is great Sep 02 19:45:23 one big point for android is the google voice integration. i ported my # over to GV and forward to my actual number on whatever phone I'm using Sep 02 19:45:44 being able to just automatically call out on that GV number would be nice. Sep 02 19:45:45 there are a lot of nice things about android wrt to google service integration Sep 02 19:49:17 a fork of Enyo that mimics iOS components would be nice. Sep 02 19:49:34 finding sencha touch more and more annoying as i work with it. Sep 02 19:51:59 rwatkins: have you took a look at "jo"? Sep 02 19:52:44 rwatkins: http://joapp.com/ Sep 02 19:53:47 leiru: not recently Sep 02 20:04:43 Jo looks neat Sep 02 20:04:52 I may look into using that for my cross-platform apps Sep 02 20:31:49 hai Sep 02 20:32:47 ok, it's been recommended that i learn how node.js works for this thing that i'm working on. The docs at palm.com seem to be tailored towards webos 2.0 .. should i be expecting things to work differently in 3? Sep 02 20:35:57 Hello? Sep 02 20:37:29 patch/tweak request: fix "always trust" for expired/self-signed SSL certificates in the browser to actually "always trust" and not "trust for a few seconds and then prompt you again" Sep 02 21:09:46 any idea how to get enyo to properly render ° html characters? Sep 02 21:09:52 twbbas: getting closer to nomnomnom beta Sep 02 21:09:56 hemna: allowHtml: true Sep 02 21:10:02 :D Sep 02 21:10:02 thnx Sep 02 21:10:04 :) Sep 02 21:10:49 twbbas: maybe I shouldn't have said that. It always works waaay better in chrome Sep 02 21:10:53 haven't tested yet Sep 02 21:10:55 bout to Sep 02 21:11:40 * twbbas watches NomNomNom explode Tibfib's TP Sep 02 21:15:23 bah. Sep 02 21:15:33 twbbas: performance doesn't start sucking after 50 articles Sep 02 21:15:38 but it still lags a bit every xx articles Sep 02 21:17:22 :\ Sep 02 21:17:51 hmmmmm Sep 02 21:19:38 twbbas: oooh, I may have a decent solution Sep 02 21:20:21 it becomes janky because you can keep scrolling while it is loading new articles. If I add pointer-events: none for a little bit it may help Sep 02 21:20:43 I don't know what that does Sep 02 21:21:01 can't scroll anymore Sep 02 21:22:09 oh Sep 02 21:22:13 that'd be annoying Sep 02 21:22:17 make it clear I can't scroll Sep 02 21:22:23 like an indicator or something Sep 02 21:25:03 no dice. Sep 02 21:25:10 welp Sep 02 21:25:44 well it worked, but it didn't work Sep 02 21:25:52 this is starting to piss me off. Sep 02 21:41:31 ,w 43 Sep 02 21:42:34 wd40 Sep 02 21:44:00 hmm. i notice in the "webview" api, that it makes a reference to a "browser server". is this "browser server" something that can be accessed directly somehow? Sep 02 21:47:44 EricBlade: no, not really Sep 02 21:49:25 I think in the past each webview just initialized itself from scratch, now they keep up and reuse a 'browser server' Sep 02 21:49:35 which is what I think accounts for the issues with loading pages in parallel. Sep 02 21:53:19 ooooh, i am about to write the dirtiest hack i've thought of in a LONG time Sep 02 21:53:23 * EricBlade gets a mischievious grin Sep 02 22:01:04 am I the only person not a fan of zhephree's styling? http://twitpic.com/6f2ioh Sep 02 22:01:56 okay, I like this screenshot better: http://twitpic.com/6f2hoh Sep 02 22:05:23