**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Sep 14 02:59:57 2011 Sep 14 03:31:21 * PatrickC does a happy dance Sep 14 03:32:38 ... Sep 14 03:33:57 check the developer forums.. and u might see Sep 14 03:37:02 There. Finally got my Pre 2 to give me reasonable battery life. Protip: Turn off Wifi and *all* location services when not specifically using them (There's a preware patch to turn GPS on for google maps, then off after) Sep 14 03:37:18 100->88% after 10 hours isn't bad Sep 14 03:38:18 PatC there is nothing to dance at yet.... Sep 14 03:38:28 maybe soon... Sep 14 03:38:30 CTLAdvance: umm.. yes there is? Sep 14 03:38:36 um not really Sep 14 03:38:42 unless I missed something Sep 14 03:38:42 check Sep 14 03:38:48 its very recent Sep 14 03:41:01 ctl: it's in the Private Forums. Sep 14 03:41:28 What level of dancing are we talking about? Sep 14 03:41:49 uh,, release + .0.2 Sep 14 03:41:49 moderate Sep 14 03:42:12 * Shadyman blinks Sep 14 03:42:48 * jaf0 blinks thrice. Sep 14 03:42:54 * jaf0 stares for a second Sep 14 03:42:56 * rwhitby points to NDAs Sep 14 03:43:12 I wish I were one of the cool kids :P Sep 14 03:43:19 * jaf0 crawls back into the corner. Sep 14 03:43:33 wrea: sign up? Sep 14 03:43:34 Honor thy NDA! Sep 14 03:43:40 yourRadio just got a .0.2 version increase with my help Sep 14 03:43:44 yep Sep 14 03:43:53 went from 0.0.65 to .0.0.67. Sep 14 03:43:59 * jaf0 points to the ipk. Sep 14 03:44:13 that was the +0.2 we were talking about :) Sep 14 03:45:33 * jaf0 sighs. Sep 14 03:45:50 so does that pane upgrade do what you want, patrickc? Sep 14 03:46:09 (at least programmatically) Sep 14 03:46:16 havent played much.. but looks so :) Sep 14 03:46:22 cool. Sep 14 03:46:41 ahh.. 3 minutes left! Sep 14 03:46:43 then windows time Sep 14 03:48:53 Heh PatrickC is going for windows 8 time!!! Sep 14 03:49:00 yep :) Sep 14 03:49:23 How long is on your download? Sep 14 03:49:26 thanks to CTLAdvance :) Sep 14 03:49:29 not sure yet Sep 14 03:49:36 getting ready to boot back into windows Sep 14 03:49:40 in ubuntu right now Sep 14 03:49:46 * halfhalo has it downloaded... tis shiny Sep 14 03:50:08 halfhalo: x86 or x64? Sep 14 03:50:13 both Sep 14 03:50:17 lol Sep 14 03:50:21 what's your dl speed? Sep 14 03:50:49 both x64's were being rate capped at 2MB/s, the 32bit hit 16 Sep 14 03:50:58 wow Sep 14 03:51:07 what's your max dl speed from your providor? Sep 14 03:51:10 provider* Sep 14 03:51:11 PatrickC, now I signed up, but i still dont have access to the private forums Sep 14 03:51:23 I dl'ed them at work. and thats limited by the port in the wall Sep 14 03:51:23 wrea: takes a few.. Sep 14 03:51:51 halfhalo: they good? Sep 14 03:51:59 worth the d/l? Sep 14 03:52:02 yeah Sep 14 03:52:05 Yes it is Sep 14 03:52:09 I messed my vm up though Sep 14 03:52:09 on older hardware? Sep 14 03:52:17 jaf0: just hit dl when you go to sleep :) Sep 14 03:52:21 look at the min specs Sep 14 03:52:26 dev.windows.com Sep 14 03:52:35 1GHz and 1gb ram for x86 Sep 14 03:52:37 i'm running a what the heck am I usingl. Sep 14 03:53:01 AMD Sempron M100 Sep 14 03:53:03 3g ram. Sep 14 03:53:07 can I virtualbox it ok? Sep 14 03:53:12 I guess this is also supposed to be easier on resources then 7 Sep 14 03:53:13 yeah Sep 14 03:55:33 I need to figure out if these sdk's will run on this Sep 14 03:56:35 CTLAdvance: 2hrs 30min Sep 14 03:56:48 nice Sep 14 03:56:53 I had x86 working Sep 14 03:56:56 * PatrickC won't be going to bed tonight :P Sep 14 03:57:02 now I am downloading the full x64 with dev tools Sep 14 03:57:02 I'm dl'ing x86 Sep 14 03:57:13 1h 20m Sep 14 03:57:15 don't want to download x64 and all its 4gb goodness :P Sep 14 03:57:59 I want to see how this plays on my quadcore laptop... This AMD keeps chugging and just wont quit Sep 14 03:58:28 lol Sep 14 03:58:30 supposedly there is also better opt for mult cores Sep 14 03:59:18 mines dual Sep 14 04:03:21 psh Sep 14 04:04:10 I need to make an opteron rig Sep 14 04:04:22 why do I have to have such show download lol Sep 14 04:05:40 because you download over your phone? Sep 14 04:05:47 nope Sep 14 04:05:53 I'm dl'ing on the desktop tonight Sep 14 04:06:09 ohhh.... fancy Sep 14 04:06:14 yep Sep 14 04:06:59 hey now Sep 14 04:07:26 what? Sep 14 04:07:35 I was thinking your dad had some bad religion to byte block you Sep 14 04:07:52 "Dont Bogart those Bytes Man" Sep 14 04:07:58 not when I'm actually caught up in school :P Sep 14 04:08:54 I wonder if Norton will install on this Sep 14 04:09:00 lol Sep 14 04:09:14 or the WebOS SDK Sep 14 04:09:22 argh.. 2 hrs and 18 min... Sep 14 04:09:25 hmm... Sep 14 04:09:33 this will be the longest 2 hrs of my life lol Sep 14 04:13:16 hmm looks like my veer gets here tomorrow Sep 14 04:19:33 what is this, veer delivery week? Sep 14 04:21:02 lol Sep 14 04:21:10 * PatrickC isn't getting a veer.. Sep 14 04:21:12 too small Sep 14 04:21:52 I wont be using it except for testing Sep 14 04:22:33 make sure scaling of my app is working. Sep 14 04:22:56 I use emu for that Sep 14 04:23:05 but I don't do mojo much anymore Sep 14 04:24:09 emu doesnt represent the on device performance, so if I cant test on a device I wont deploy to it Sep 14 04:24:29 brain fart here, what do you call those things that stereotype inspectors have with handle and has a lens on it to zoom things in Sep 14 04:24:48 magnifying glass Sep 14 04:24:50 ? Sep 14 04:24:55 thanks Sep 14 04:25:07 CTLAdvance: well.. like I said.. I don't do mojo much anymore :) Sep 14 04:25:10 enyo ftw Sep 14 04:25:28 I dont do either, web standards ftw... Sep 14 04:26:39 lol Sep 14 04:26:51 I guess now that I have ubuntu, I can phonegap Sep 14 04:27:37 huh Sep 14 04:27:45 you could phonegap in windows just fine Sep 14 04:28:18 cygwin wouldn't play nice Sep 14 04:33:19 yeah, so basically cygwin isnt needed Sep 14 04:33:41 you just need to build the master phonegap file for 1.0 and then you use palm-package etc Sep 14 04:33:43 hmm....? Sep 14 04:33:48 cool Sep 14 04:34:09 I dont know why they used cygwin for windows instead of providing the file Sep 14 04:34:16 maybe incase you dont want all modules Sep 14 04:42:14 17 Mins remain Sep 14 04:44:01 argh.. 2hrs here lol Sep 14 04:44:23 oy Sep 14 04:45:22 3mbp/s max dl Sep 14 04:46:23 oy Sep 14 04:46:48 yeah... Sep 14 04:49:06 EricBlade: ping? Sep 14 04:49:35 HattCzech_work: ping.. important :) Sep 14 05:24:18 1hr 5 min!!! Sep 14 05:31:58 3 downloads at once.. ouch.. Sep 14 08:38:46 PatrickC_: !! Sep 14 08:43:11 So,I know this gets asked far too often, but I can't find it in my logs, how do/can I save an image rendered on a canvas tag to the filesystem? Sep 14 09:55:31 Does anyone know if there is any differense in the "gsm" module from the AT&T and the german one Sep 14 11:12:01 hello Sep 14 13:14:42 hi guys, I bough today palm pre with simlock, and I want run this phone wihout calling but I cant Sep 14 13:15:07 after running I see some screens with instructions to put sim card and so on Sep 14 13:15:57 how can i run it just to test software? Sep 14 13:36:42 afternoon Sep 14 13:37:07 hi Sep 14 13:39:37 hey Sep 14 14:09:35 kuba_: ping? Sep 14 14:30:35 madnificent: hey Sep 14 14:30:46 I was sleepin when you pong'd me back lol Sep 14 14:55:52 qualcomm ceo huge webos fan. would hate to see it do Sep 14 14:55:55 (grin) Sep 14 15:05:19 PatrickC: important ping? Sep 14 15:07:47 HattCzech_work: pong Sep 14 15:08:09 you pinged me last night-ish? Sep 14 15:08:24 oh, I'll PM you Sep 14 15:08:58 can I update simlocked phone from 1.4 to 2.0 WebOS:)? Sep 14 15:09:14 carrier? Sep 14 15:11:07 HattCzech_work: all I can say is "webOSdev: members of early access might want to check the forums. it's not quite an oprah moment, but we have new stuff for you." Sep 14 15:11:13 ^^from twitter Sep 14 15:11:14 clearview w/ full screen mode submitted. Sep 14 15:11:28 hmmm... interesting Sep 14 15:11:30 bshado: I've never seen you use that nick before Sep 14 15:11:37 hey IGNTNUNLMTD Sep 14 15:11:44 I dont know, how can I check that? Sep 14 15:11:45 good morning Sep 14 15:12:01 oh wow Sep 14 15:12:02 kuba_: who's SIM goes in it? Sep 14 15:12:10 lol Sep 14 15:12:10 lol Sep 14 15:12:18 PatrickC: thanks! and YAY! Sep 14 15:12:25 i was like. WHO THE HELL IS USING THAT NAME Sep 14 15:12:25 * WinterMute is jealous of members of early access now Sep 14 15:12:37 WinterMute: apply? Sep 14 15:12:42 HattCzech_work: :D Sep 14 15:12:52 I bought it from second-hand, and all I know it is one of GB networks Sep 14 15:12:54 PatrickC: what are the criteria? Sep 14 15:12:54 and for finding that, I get an early preview :P Sep 14 15:13:04 WinterMute: that you are a dev I believe Sep 14 15:13:16 when you turn it on, what does it say? Sep 14 15:13:42 need to write some webos related code first then I guess :p Sep 14 15:13:45 and kuba_, #webos-internals would be a better place for this talk Sep 14 15:13:49 WinterMute: lol Sep 14 15:14:10 ah.. man.. can't congratulate chuqui/adora :/ Sep 14 15:14:23 * WinterMute has got as far as using Make for some PDK samples instead of this script madness Sep 14 15:15:00 further then me lol Sep 14 15:15:03 sdk all the way Sep 14 15:15:24 real men use a hammer and magnetic needle. Sep 14 15:15:48 * WinterMute likes C Sep 14 15:16:10 * halfhalo goes to reinstall lion on his laptop AGAIN Sep 14 15:16:11 * PatrickC doesn't know C Sep 14 15:16:20 why again? Sep 14 15:16:36 bootcamp decided it didn't like osx and erased it Sep 14 15:16:51 halfhalo: did you ever get to a screen in win8 that said "you must restart your computer" or something like that? Sep 14 15:16:56 oh, that stinks lol Sep 14 15:17:08 * fxspec06 loves C. and hasn't ever made an app in it Sep 14 15:17:11 PatrickC: you a member of early access? Sep 14 15:17:22 I got many scree... OH GOD DAMMIT MY ISO'S WERE ON THE AIR Sep 14 15:17:39 WinterMute: even if I was, I couldn't say.. Sep 14 15:17:50 halfhalo: uhoh? Sep 14 15:18:30 okay i lied. i didn't submit the cleraview up date yet, i'm trying to. and i can't get past the appinfo screen Sep 14 15:18:48 this is cramping my jerry springer hour. =| Sep 14 15:18:48 lol Sep 14 15:19:00 * PatrickC hasn't submitted an app in almost a year Sep 14 15:19:02 stuck using this pos work laptop that will die the second I pull the power cord for now :/ Sep 14 15:19:29 halfhalo: battery vests. and shoes. Sep 14 15:19:49 thats effort Sep 14 15:20:12 3 minutes till lion is downloaded... thats 3 minutes to long Sep 14 15:20:29 you're weeks late already Sep 14 15:20:33 the hell kind of awesome connection are you on Sep 14 15:20:35 what's another 3 minutes Sep 14 15:21:13 * PatrickC wishes he had *half* of halfhalo's dl speeds Sep 14 15:21:31 fxspec06, three minutes until lion is downloaded on the laptop that managed to erase itself. including its lion restore partition. Sep 14 15:21:37 lion is blowing my mind Sep 14 15:21:39 * halfhalo has 100/100 Sep 14 15:21:46 on air 13" Sep 14 15:22:03 torchie DONT BOOTCAMP. IT WILL END IN TEARS Sep 14 15:22:08 I was on c2d 06 white for years and in the interim, a pavilion dv6000 Sep 14 15:22:16 i bootcamped a while back Sep 14 15:22:30 got an air 2 days ago and my mind is getting BLOWN 2000 Sep 14 15:22:34 halfhalo: really? Sep 14 15:22:37 lol Sep 14 15:22:39 what if i want to run nihon falcom games :( Sep 14 15:22:45 okay why can't i get past this appinfo screen Sep 14 15:22:49 yeah. tried to setup bootcamp on my air and it decided to kill itself. Sep 14 15:22:52 is there a glitch in the palm system Sep 14 15:22:55 i just restarted the computer and everything was just like Sep 14 15:22:59 BACK TO BUSINESS in 20 seconds Sep 14 15:23:10 my friggen elbow is killing me from all that sanding yesterday Sep 14 15:23:22 Wax on, wax off Sep 14 15:23:30 and it seems to be running faster despite the fact that this is the exact same set of apps I had open when I closed Sep 14 15:23:41 * torchie worrying about my uptimes Sep 14 15:23:49 * fxspec06 never has computer issues anymore Sep 14 15:23:55 if you want uptimes.. get a desktop Sep 14 15:24:04 Worry about uptime if it can't get over N days, not if it's over N days.. Sep 14 15:24:13 my uptimes are fine w/ mylaptop. just last week i had 8 days Sep 14 15:24:20 ie.. If your system is unstable, worry. If it's not, who cares. Sep 14 15:24:34 i was having a sound issue :( Sep 14 15:24:45 my 06 white was getting 18 days to a month Sep 14 15:25:04 my 08 can get that much easily Sep 14 15:25:06 I rebooted my laptop here last year sometime Sep 14 15:25:25 I reboot my laptop all the time Sep 14 15:25:40 alright from here on Sep 14 15:25:43 no restarts Sep 14 15:25:45 come at me, apple Sep 14 15:25:48 mostly because I broke the os and have to reinstall, but still. Sep 14 15:25:53 lol Sep 14 15:27:06 and really... the only thing I wanted bootcamp for was to play tropico 4.... Sep 14 15:27:15 i just want nihon falcom games :( Sep 14 15:27:22 and to see if ps2 emulation works better on windows Sep 14 15:27:23 UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Sep 14 15:27:36 i hit 'continue' and it hangs Sep 14 15:27:38 timeout Sep 14 15:27:39 but my word Sep 14 15:27:43 this computer is made of magic Sep 14 15:27:51 the speakers are just hilarious Sep 14 15:27:52 Steve touched it. Sep 14 15:27:56 steve touched me. Sep 14 15:28:01 and then he took my wallet. Sep 14 15:28:01 Sue him Sep 14 15:28:17 if i sue him hard enough maybe i can get two airs Sep 14 15:28:44 torchie did you get the i5 or i7? Sep 14 15:28:51 the i5 Sep 14 15:28:54 i'm not made of money Sep 14 15:29:00 hah Sep 14 15:29:26 id only consider the i7 if it magically made the machine play FF12 at native resolution at 60fps Sep 14 15:29:28 I debated between the i5 128 and the i7 256, but ended up getting the i5 256. its the shiny. Sep 14 15:29:44 * fxspec06 quits Sep 14 15:30:02 fxspec06: don't quit! quitting is for quitters! Sep 14 15:30:04 hell, they're all great Sep 14 15:30:19 I'm sitting next to a window and just Sep 14 15:30:21 PatrickC: i can't do anything if the palm servers aren't responding Sep 14 15:30:25 * PatrickC just wants an intel mac for under $500 Sep 14 15:30:33 an old mac mini Sep 14 15:30:34 done Sep 14 15:30:35 i have no choice but to quit Sep 14 15:30:49 or you could craigslist for a late 06 blackbook Sep 14 15:30:52 that's the cutoff point for lion Sep 14 15:30:56 it would be insane for me to keep clicking continue over and over and over and over all day long. i have other things to do with my time Sep 14 15:31:04 torchie: too many accessories to buy to make it work with my monitors for a mini Sep 14 15:31:11 but then your laptop wouldn't made of MIRACLES Sep 14 15:31:28 my word the SOUNDSTAGE Sep 14 15:31:34 I'm probably getting my friends MBP though Sep 14 15:31:41 and this is just a 160kbps Sep 14 15:31:41 for ~300-400 Sep 14 15:31:49 wouldn't you just need dvi vga Sep 14 15:31:53 er Sep 14 15:31:56 mini dvi to whatever Sep 14 15:31:56 yup Sep 14 15:32:01 idk Sep 14 15:32:08 i had a dvi to vga on my 06 white Sep 14 15:32:08 halfhalo is the macman Sep 14 15:32:13 ok the auto correct on this makes NO DAMN SENSE Sep 14 15:32:21 first time I type vga it works Sep 14 15:32:24 second time it corrects to via Sep 14 15:32:26 lol Sep 14 15:32:34 lol Sep 14 15:32:54 torchie: dude, my auto correct corrects for the plural or past tense forms of words rather than the obvious Sep 14 15:33:22 lol Sep 14 15:33:23 i want to type things like, extreme, and it corrects to "extremes" Sep 14 15:33:26 auto-incorrect Sep 14 15:33:29 it's like Sep 14 15:33:38 why the hell would you expect me to make that plural? give me the damn choice Sep 14 15:33:54 i remember my pre always corrected "its" to "it's" Sep 14 15:33:56 even if i meant its Sep 14 15:33:59 hahahaha Sep 14 15:34:04 thatd drive me bananas Sep 14 15:34:41 i tend to believe iOS has the worst auto correct of any mobile though Sep 14 15:34:50 i mean, there's a reason there's a website dedicated to it Sep 14 15:34:50 really? Sep 14 15:34:56 blackberry doesn't even autocorrect Sep 14 15:34:57 I still haven't owned an iOS device yet lol Sep 14 15:35:01 ... check out www.damnyouautocorrect.com Sep 14 15:35:09 android autocorrect has been... Sep 14 15:35:12 …pretty on point acually Sep 14 15:35:30 i suck at landscape on nexus s though Sep 14 15:35:33 torchie: android is what i was referring to with my autocorrect issues, it's pretty damn good most of the time but the plural/past tense thing bothers me Sep 14 15:35:37 vertical all day erry day Sep 14 15:35:45 ugh, i don't know why, landscape virtual keyboard sucks in android Sep 14 15:35:57 it has since cupcake, it still does in gingerbread, i only type portrait Sep 14 15:36:05 I think it's an issue of aspect ratio Sep 14 15:36:55 you end up with a phone too narrow for portrait or too wide for landscape Sep 14 15:40:28 this is the silliness Sep 14 15:40:40 same everything running except now its balls smooth Sep 14 15:40:53 lol Sep 14 15:41:16 lost my state in paper mario though Sep 14 15:42:06 bahahaha.. that site is.. wow.. lol Sep 14 15:42:19 PatrickC: yeah, awesome Sep 14 15:42:33 * PatrickC is gonna get no work/school done today Sep 14 15:42:34 :P Sep 14 15:42:43 hey theres one android one at the bottom of the page Sep 14 15:42:53 I'm making children in my crockpot Sep 14 15:43:05 wonder if there are windows phone ones Sep 14 15:43:27 PatrickC: http://damnyouautocorrect.com/images/sprayed.jpg Sep 14 15:43:31 that's a good one. Sep 14 15:43:51 torchie: where? i haven't seen an android one on this site Sep 14 15:43:52 lol just saw that one Sep 14 15:43:58 bottom of first page Sep 14 15:43:58 I saw that lol Sep 14 15:44:37 torchie: that's the facebook app on iphone... Sep 14 15:44:44 innit? Sep 14 15:45:17 nah Sep 14 15:45:25 defo android version Sep 14 15:45:30 froyo top bar Sep 14 15:45:31 http://damnyouautocorrect.com/12205/bad-news/ Sep 14 15:45:32 defo, wtf Sep 14 15:45:32 wow Sep 14 15:45:34 lol Sep 14 15:45:34 go back to australia, tard Sep 14 15:45:38 :( Sep 14 15:45:41 I'm american :( Sep 14 15:45:44 lol Sep 14 15:45:47 ...mate Sep 14 15:45:51 that's something an aussie'd say Sep 14 15:45:55 devo = devastated, etc Sep 14 15:45:59 http://damnyouautocorrect.com/images/secret-ingredient.jpg Sep 14 15:46:08 i love how this one has no response Sep 14 15:46:17 lol Sep 14 15:46:24 x_x Sep 14 15:47:43 http://damnyouautocorrect.com/12140/the-quake <- android? Sep 14 15:49:52 yeah Sep 14 15:49:54 that's an HTC Sep 14 15:49:59 font is droid sans Sep 14 15:50:29 god thats terrible I can for the most part recognize androids by their top bars Sep 14 15:54:36 this is going to be the slowest. login. ever. Sep 14 15:55:46 why? Sep 14 15:55:49 flash doesn't work well enough on the TP for me to watch Daily Show :( Sep 14 15:56:13 logging in over the internets to my local fireserver to start the user restore process. Sep 14 16:29:46 my app submission hangs with this address left in the bar, looking at a blank screen: Sep 14 16:29:46 https://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_appsubmission&task=saveappinfo Sep 14 16:29:53 =[ Sep 14 16:30:31 I've been using the app portal less than a week and I've only seen issues - don't like it Sep 14 16:32:38 ugh Sep 14 16:32:58 i'm wasting a day trying to submit this update. the app is < 500K Sep 14 16:33:01 lol Sep 14 16:33:33 my app got rejected by the scanner because it makes use of libSDL :D Sep 14 16:33:42 PatrickC: less sleep, more code! Sep 14 16:33:51 madnificent: haha Sep 14 16:33:58 its almost working though! Sep 14 16:35:14 madnificent: want a peek? :) Sep 14 16:36:40 fxspec06_: try a different browser to complete the submission with Sep 14 16:37:08 EricBlade: good, you are here :) Sep 14 16:37:14 gvoice question Sep 14 16:37:29 I try and make a call.. but I get no sound on my end (the touchpad) Sep 14 16:37:33 good idea EricBlade Sep 14 16:38:09 fxspec06_: i've had to use a combination of opera, ie, and chrome, to get that stupid thing to work right Sep 14 16:38:10 i thought of that unconsciously Sep 14 16:38:22 lol Sep 14 16:41:58 wow.. my student text book and answer key has a horrible auto-correct haha Sep 14 16:46:50 fxspec06: the new version of WOW services is out Sep 14 16:56:21 PatrickC: i've had it for 4 months now Sep 14 16:56:31 the *new* version? Sep 14 16:56:36 yes........... Sep 14 16:56:39 why is it just now coming out? Sep 14 16:56:49 because jake is lazy Sep 14 16:56:53 and what took so long? its only sounds that's new... lol Sep 14 16:56:54 and dumb Sep 14 16:56:59 lol Sep 14 16:57:04 you should take over lol Sep 14 16:57:05 yeah and i wrote the sounds Sep 14 16:57:16 incoming and outgoing? Sep 14 16:58:03 um yes? Sep 14 16:58:15 well, I only noticed it on incoming Sep 14 16:58:24 outgoing* Sep 14 16:58:39 no one is ever in there, so I didn't even see a msg come in Sep 14 16:58:43 nice touch Sep 14 16:58:46 doen anyone know much about eprint mechanics? my google skills are failing me Sep 14 16:59:21 eprint mechanics? You mean the PCL print tool? Or the other one? Sep 14 17:00:03 like how does the TP automatically recognize printers on the local network and how does information get sent to them Sep 14 17:00:22 that isn't eprint.. afaik Sep 14 17:00:32 that's just with *any* hp wireless printer Sep 14 17:00:34 thats bonjour. Sep 14 17:00:38 aka zeroconf. Sep 14 17:00:50 like my hp wireless printer doesn't have eprint. but works with my touchpad Sep 14 17:00:54 aka _awesomeness_ if you get it to work with other stuff Sep 14 17:01:17 bbl.. lunch time Sep 14 17:01:39 * halfhalo does happy dance Sep 14 17:01:44 why? Sep 14 17:01:45 lol Sep 14 17:01:58 the air is logged into my network profile Sep 14 17:02:29 air... too small for me Sep 14 17:02:29 which size air you have? Sep 14 17:02:34