**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Sep 16 02:59:56 2011 Sep 16 03:08:11 just submitted my first enyo/TP app to the catalog :) Sep 16 03:08:27 congrats Sep 16 03:08:37 thanks Sep 16 03:08:48 enyo is so much easier to dev for than mojo Sep 16 03:10:48 ya, particularly for the UI stuff. and pretty nearly complete dev in Chrome is awesome. Sep 16 03:32:01 yup, running/debugging in chrome really sped up the dev cycle Sep 16 03:32:04 really freaking awesome Sep 16 03:54:05 ok installing the sdk in windows 8 Sep 16 03:56:00 Anyone know if the tp has power supplied to the port for usb otg yet? Sep 16 04:06:04 yet? Sep 16 04:06:15 the hardware doesn't support it. it's never going to happen. Sep 16 04:08:50 on the TP, how do you move the cursor position in an input? Sep 16 04:09:09 tap Sep 16 04:09:13 again afaik Sep 16 04:09:34 uh, when the text is larger than the input Sep 16 04:09:53 say a Facebook status update more than ~30 chars. Sep 16 04:18:09 ok sdk successfully installed to windows 8 Sep 16 04:18:15 64bit Sep 16 04:34:06 you can tap-drag Sep 16 04:34:11 and then unselect Sep 16 04:39:27 but that doesn't seem to scroll, hrm Sep 16 05:42:35 hey all Sep 16 06:21:03 * PatrickC_TP hates a freehost.. but better then nothing Sep 16 06:23:25 dunno about that Sep 16 06:23:46 so.. you think nothing is better then something? Sep 16 06:24:31 lol Sep 16 06:24:37 I LOVE nothing Sep 16 06:24:54 in the case of free hosting? yes Sep 16 06:26:20 well.. I need web space, and I'm not allowed to buy it Sep 16 06:26:28 so.. I have no other choice :/ Sep 16 06:29:05 will you get arrested? Sep 16 06:29:21 parents don't want me too Sep 16 06:29:30 and if I go against them, it won't be pretty lol Sep 16 06:29:35 how much did you need? Sep 16 06:29:37 lol Sep 16 06:29:42 probably grounded from touchpad/etc. for a while Sep 16 06:29:47 what's their malfunction? Sep 16 06:29:55 technikfreak: not much.. just enough for a forum/preware feed Sep 16 06:30:04 PsWii60: they just think its a waste of money Sep 16 06:30:11 oh forum so you need php and mysql support ok i am out :-) Sep 16 06:30:24 lol Sep 16 06:30:32 tell them it will come in handy for when you start your computer science studying in 6 years Sep 16 06:30:37 oh, and I need Ampache on it to do testing for my app Sep 16 06:30:38 the guy how maked 4chan hidden this also for their parents Sep 16 06:50:54 hey folks! Sep 16 06:51:20 so was anyone else tweeting netflix today, or did I fall in w/ the wrong crowd? ;^) Sep 16 06:52:28 hm, someone on slickdeals is saying the touchpad channel on freenode was "killed due to server policy," which is.. odd, imho.. Sep 16 06:55:47 lol Sep 16 06:56:01 #touchpad is still up Sep 16 06:57:57 this freehost actually has the benefits of a real host. :) Sep 16 06:58:04 whats wrong with #touchpad ? Sep 16 07:00:20 TanKh: nothing, there's just someone going around saying "There is no chat on freenode, we started with it, but we closed it due to server policy. It is now officially on slashnet." _very_ odd Sep 16 07:00:36 oh, i c Sep 16 07:04:21 hey guys :D Sep 16 07:04:38 can anyone help me out :( re: mojo? Sep 16 07:05:12 this one scene i have isn't scrollable.. and i didn't disable scrolling on it Sep 16 07:06:05 brb Sep 16 07:07:43 haha, the topic on efnet's #webos is "WebOS 1.4.5 is now available - Sep 16 07:07:44 http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_learn&view=learn" Sep 16 07:08:38 lol already tehre Sep 16 07:08:40 looking :p Sep 16 07:08:48 the documentation isn't as nice as others :( Sep 16 07:10:40 ah well ~ this sucks. back to result-less googling :| Sep 16 07:12:07 eighthree: what you looking for? Sep 16 07:12:16 hey PatrickC_TP Sep 16 07:12:17 ajay: how's it goin man? long time no see! Sep 16 07:12:20 damn borrowed a netflix password but didn't realize i wouldn't even be able to use it on linux. grr! I wonder if I can fake chromeOS.. Sep 16 07:12:36 PatrickC_TP: I have never met you. I once knew a PatrickC_Pre I believe, but you.. Sep 16 07:12:42 lol Sep 16 07:12:47 PatrickC_Pre is long gone Sep 16 07:12:47 ;^) i'm good how are you? Sep 16 07:12:49 basically. making an app ~ but can't get it to scroll when objects are beyond the canvas Sep 16 07:12:56 he hardly ever comes around :) Sep 16 07:13:01 ajay: I'm doing good :) Sep 16 07:13:11 I know a lot more now then when I was PatrickC_Pre ;) Sep 16 07:13:14 i've been in this channel a little bit, not too much over the years, tis true Sep 16 07:13:21 I have an almost ready app... :P Sep 16 07:14:01 saw the default disableSceneScroll set to true so i set that to false… but still won't scroll ^^; even placed objects on a scroll box thing but i doubt thats how it actually works Sep 16 07:14:36 I don't use much scroll.. sorry :/ Sep 16 07:14:46 most my apps contents fit inside the screen lol Sep 16 07:14:59 well it fits.. not when you rotate it to landscape D: Sep 16 07:15:32 and i mean i could just make it work on one orientation, but just learning the damn thing so if not just for the knowledge X) Sep 16 07:15:55 lol Sep 16 07:15:58 what's the app do? Sep 16 07:16:54 this guy in the /net #hp-t.. channel was talking about how easy it is to flash OSes, i was skeptical, and he finished with "android works 100% if you don't use wifi" what?! how can people be so illogical.. Sep 16 07:17:07 oh hey has anyone tried to get dropbox going in the chroot yet? Sep 16 07:17:21 not me Sep 16 07:17:27 and I don't use dropbox anymore Sep 16 07:17:32 box.net FTW :) Sep 16 07:17:51 hahaha... the touchpad autocorrects ftw to FTW :P Sep 16 07:18:00 oh boo, figured it out :p Sep 16 07:18:03 PatrickC_TP: I couldn't get that damn thing to mount properly in ubuntu, using either method Sep 16 07:18:15 explicitly set height for scene Sep 16 07:18:16 :X Sep 16 07:18:36 i'm surprised at how different the autocorrect dict on the TP is from the pre.. it would capitalize so many names (of people, cities, etc..) curious Sep 16 07:18:45 yeah Sep 16 07:18:54 any hp/palm employees here now? Sep 16 07:18:54 I like the TP's auto correct more Sep 16 07:19:15 dkirker and sugardave are 2 :) Sep 16 07:19:18 PatrickC_TP: I think i do too, i just wish it had my additions added Sep 16 07:19:31 whether they are here or not, idk. but they are logged on :) Sep 16 07:19:40 yeah Sep 16 07:19:48 i thought there was an idle command in irc, but i can't remember.. Sep 16 07:20:00 I wish they shared the autocorrect dictionary between profiles Sep 16 07:20:21 like if a touchpad/pre shared a profile, they also shared a autocorrect dictionary Sep 16 07:20:51 i wish they shared SO MUCH Sep 16 07:20:57 that's why i want dropbox on both Sep 16 07:21:40 oh boom i figured out how to find someone's idle time, haha! google ftw Sep 16 07:21:50 dkirker: you sleepin? Sep 16 07:22:08 haha Sep 16 07:22:13 I'm about to be sleepin Sep 16 07:22:15 night all :) Sep 16 07:22:17 en serio Sep 16 07:22:24 i wanted to backup and doctor my phone, but.. tired Sep 16 07:22:29 btw.. what's the command for idle time? :) Sep 16 07:22:49 /idle ? :P Sep 16 07:22:52 i could probably fix it w/o doctoring, but.. sometimes ya just gotta doctor Sep 16 07:22:57 /whois Sep 16 07:23:04 whodathukit Sep 16 07:23:22 whois ajay Sep 16 07:23:31 that's the real question Sep 16 07:23:56 lol Sep 16 07:24:00 night PatrickC_TP Sep 16 07:24:27 i'm also wondering if anyone's working on android, meego, chromeos, etc, in a chroot,hrmm.. Sep 16 07:24:32 oh yeah, night PatrickC_TP Sep 16 07:24:37 haha Sep 16 07:24:43 night ajay eighthree Sep 16 07:25:36 s/chrome/chromium i just realized.. hrmm.. Sep 16 07:26:24 i'm too tired to think about this, so/umm.. Sep 16 07:29:20 yeah i think the same from me too then, nighters! Sep 16 07:54:11 hola Sep 16 07:54:13 :X Sep 16 07:54:17 oops not angry face xD Sep 16 08:03:41 anyone awaake? Sep 16 08:03:42 :PO Sep 16 08:03:46 :O Sep 16 08:07:57 soo. Sep 16 08:08:07 man it seems like i can't get any help here :( Sep 16 08:36:13 Awake. Sep 16 08:52:27 hey gokr Sep 16 08:52:49 hey Sep 16 08:56:44 whats up? Sep 16 08:56:48 :D Sep 16 08:57:23 Well... work and slipping in some hacking on Amber: www.amber-lang.net Sep 16 08:57:50 (which btw can be used to write Enyo apps) Sep 16 09:06:24 ooh is it? Sep 16 09:06:27 cool! Sep 16 09:06:38 i've never heard of it gokr Sep 16 09:07:16 eighthree: I didn't expect you had :) Sep 16 09:07:39 new to all of this stuffs.. the documentation hurts me (webOS in general) Sep 16 09:08:00 trying to figure out how to send data from 1 scene to another / maintaining data in scenes Sep 16 09:38:50 Any ideas why i can't teether from mu pre 2 to TP Sep 16 09:42:21 freetether? Sep 16 09:45:08 both Sep 16 09:45:15 mobile hotspot and freetehther Sep 16 09:45:23 it connects fine, but no internet :S Sep 16 09:53:47 Any Xecutah/XServer/XTerm users around? Sep 16 09:54:50 rwhitby, yes sir Sep 16 09:55:13 can you please update to 0.9.0 of each and let me know if the work, so I can push them to the public feed? Sep 16 09:55:49 lol sure.. give me 5min (i am downloading libre office on it right now) Sep 16 09:56:29 oh wait i can test on other TP Sep 16 09:57:01 rwhitby: does a german GSM veer work on australian vodafone? Sep 16 09:57:01 its for the gf.. but i can play for now Sep 16 09:57:30 * Jack87 is updating Sep 16 09:58:09 hucksy: yes, in fact in some areas AU VF will support both US and EU Veers Sep 16 09:58:35 ah, thanks Sep 16 09:59:06 I used to run EU devices on VF in Adelaide, but am now running an 850MHz device and it's working fine. VF is rolling out 850. Sep 16 09:59:17 rwhitby, works like a charm Sep 16 09:59:22 hotdp_: still having that issue Sep 16 09:59:30 rwhitby, tested esc and ctrl keys as well Sep 16 09:59:34 hi rwhitby :3 Sep 16 09:59:36 all smooth Sep 16 09:59:40 Jack87: do XServer and XTerm app icons give full-screen on TP ? Sep 16 10:00:40 rwhitby, negative Sep 16 10:00:59 rwhitby, oh wait yes they do Sep 16 10:01:20 just... needs to be formated to match the resolution Sep 16 10:01:40 but they are no longer in the emulator Sep 16 10:01:48 yeah, that's good enough for now Sep 16 10:01:49 or emulator view Sep 16 10:02:17 I'll get oil to fix headlessapp.git later Sep 16 10:05:27 Humptidum - so XTerm and XServer is in Preware? I gotta get! Sep 16 10:07:01 gokr: the latest thing is Xecutah, you should try this (in the testing feeds) Sep 16 10:07:26 actually, in the public feeds now Sep 16 10:07:28 Hmmm, testing feeds... Just looking at prefs now. Sep 16 10:08:11 gokr, pretty awesome shit Sep 16 10:08:15 gokr: please download them from the public feeds, *NOT* the testing feeds Sep 16 10:08:18 I can't find any of this. Sep 16 10:08:18 gokr, you dont happen to be armenian do you Sep 16 10:08:26 Hehe, nope! Sweden. Sep 16 10:08:41 gokr, hehe okie dokie Sep 16 10:08:49 Sorry for being a rookie - what is the feed I need? Sep 16 10:09:07 gokr, its just in the public webos-internals feed Sep 16 10:09:16 gokr: webos-internals-armv7 probably? Sep 16 10:09:20 And its called "xecutah"? Sep 16 10:09:24 pcworld, yup Sep 16 10:09:43 gokr: you only need the feeds that come by default in Preware. Sep 16 10:09:44 no others Sep 16 10:09:44 gokr: yes Sep 16 10:09:48 gokr, yes just use universal search on your device from the main preware screen Sep 16 10:10:07 or go to the list of everything at it will be at the top Sep 16 10:10:23 Oh, so there *is* a way to input ctrl from on-screen keyboard on touchpad Sep 16 10:10:26 awesome! Sep 16 10:10:42 klausa, there is now yes Sep 16 10:10:45 Weird, I can't see it at all. Can't find it with "xecutah", is not at top in Everything. Sep 16 10:10:55 "Paper Sizes" is at the top there. Sep 16 10:11:08 gokr: when did you update your feeds last time? Sep 16 10:11:22 I selected "Update Feeds" like 1 minute ago. Sep 16 10:11:32 try it again Sep 16 10:11:36 Doing it. Sep 16 10:11:48 Aha! Sep 16 10:11:50 * Jack87 is about to see if he can see it in public feeds Sep 16 10:11:50 Now I see them. Sep 16 10:12:00 Why didn't I see them before? Sep 16 10:12:09 I only just released them. Sep 16 10:12:13 Oh. :) Sep 16 10:12:18 lol Sep 16 10:12:25 they've been in the testing feeds up until a minute ago Sep 16 10:12:29 So I don't have testing, right. Got it. Sep 16 10:12:31 hum... mine still shows it in testing. Sep 16 10:13:04 Jack87: that's showing what you have installed Sep 16 10:13:14 gokr: let me know when it works for you Sep 16 10:13:24 Installing :) Sep 16 10:13:28 rwhitby, roger that Sep 16 10:15:44 * rwhitby needs to work out how to insert a pseudo-package in the testing which says "Turn off the testing feed and get this package from the public feeds" Sep 16 10:16:18 Oh my! Bloody cool to see that old X11 cursor on top of that oooold background pattern. Sep 16 10:16:29 rwhitby, did only wIRC cut your last msg? Sep 16 10:16:38 That's so awesome. Sep 16 10:17:02 If only there was only a way to simulate arrow keys that would be everything I need from terminal. Sep 16 10:17:03 Yiha! Got an XTerm. Sep 16 10:17:15 (And getting UTF-8 to work, but that shouldn't be too hard.) Sep 16 10:17:41 so I take it that's two success reports from the public feeds? Sep 16 10:17:42 Hehe, top works. Sep 16 10:18:11 Oooh, it keeps updating when minimized too. Sep 16 10:18:32 The only thing I got confused about was the order to start stuff etc, but hey, trial and error worked fine. Sep 16 10:19:01 rwhitby: Kudos Sep 16 10:19:26 gokr: even though the splash screen on which you clicked "I've read this" specifically says to run XServer first? Sep 16 10:20:00 or did you wait 5 seconds looking somewhere else? Sep 16 10:20:16 rwhitby: Make it three success reports. Sep 16 10:20:23 https://twitter.com/webosinternals/status/114644265832947712 Sep 16 10:22:08 The reason I got confused was because I *thought* I clicked on Xecutah, but actually clicked Xserver. So no, the splashes seem to be logical. Sep 16 10:22:15 rwhitby: Is there way to emulate arrowekeys too? Sep 16 10:23:01 And then for a second, when I got XServer running - I kinda wondered how to start an XTerm. But of course, it's all there in Xecutah. Sep 16 10:25:30 klausa: there is a precentral thread on that Sep 16 10:26:24 I tweeted about it (when Esc and Ctrl was found) the other day Sep 16 10:27:24 ok, i'll look around. Sep 16 10:27:45 I guess that there is also way to make utf8 work? Sep 16 10:31:52 dunno, it's version 0.9.0 :) Sep 16 10:53:06 Hmm. Sep 16 10:53:17 Seems like only installed locales on TP are C and POSIX. Sep 16 11:21:30 gokr: you can also autostart xterm Sep 16 11:24:35 loswillios: how. Sep 16 11:24:37 ? Sep 16 11:25:44 klausa: /media/internal/.xinitrc: #!/bin/sh DISPLAY=:0 /media/cryptofs/apps/usr/palm/applications/org.webosinternals.xterm/bin/xterm -maximize -e login -f root Sep 16 11:25:47 (two lines) Sep 16 11:26:21 loswillios: Do you also happen to know how can I get utf-8 in xterm? Sep 16 11:26:28 no Sep 16 11:26:32 Damn. Sep 16 11:26:40 now that we have ctrl-keys we should see about tmux or screen :) Sep 16 11:26:54 I did export LC_ALL='en_US.UTF-8' but no luck. Sep 16 11:27:09 I mean - locale changed, but no unicode characters. Sep 16 11:30:42 Seems like Xlib is compiled without UTF-8. Sep 16 11:30:59 When I try to run XTerm from within XTerm I get: Sep 16 11:31:12 'Warning: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C' Sep 16 11:34:53 rwhitby: Is my diagnosis right? Sep 16 14:37:17 hello all Sep 16 14:38:05 how are you doin? Sep 16 14:38:15 hi Sep 16 14:38:35 hello, what's up? Sep 16 14:39:44 silence in #webos ;) Sep 16 14:40:03 lol. typical #webos Sep 16 15:00:58 bad #webos Sep 16 15:04:50 morning all Sep 16 15:05:22 chilly morning Sep 16 15:05:36 yes Sep 16 15:05:37 hey Sep 16 15:07:23 61 here... Sep 16 15:08:21 cooler here too Sep 16 15:11:40 * PatrickC_TP waits for co.cc to update his nameservers Sep 16 15:11:47 that site hates me.. Sep 16 15:16:30 Godddamit. Sep 16 15:16:34 I give up. Sep 16 15:16:45 I have no idea how to make xterm work with utf-8. Sep 16 15:18:42 HP Mobile Hotspot?!?! Sep 16 15:20:15 ? Sep 16 15:20:46 in the app catalog!!!!!!! Sep 16 15:20:48 pre2 Sep 16 15:20:53 unlocked Sep 16 15:22:43 carrier locked. not available on sprint Sep 16 15:24:04 PatrickC: that's nothing new (at least in Germany) Sep 16 15:24:18 PatrickC: but there has been an update a few days ago Sep 16 15:24:18 here it is Sep 16 15:24:29 its never been in the app catalog on the pre2 Sep 16 15:24:41 and now the website says its available for.... sprint?!?!?! Sep 16 15:25:05 I have it installed on my unlocked Pre2 for 4 months Sep 16 15:25:21 probably was flagged to be available in Germany Sep 16 15:25:25 Ugh. *Any* clues how I could make xterm on TP work with UTF-8? Sep 16 15:31:52 * halfhalo yawns Sep 16 17:52:54 LoneStar: ping? Sep 16 18:22:16 why does palms website when you navigate to your apps keep taking you to the front page Sep 16 18:22:40 Windos 7, 8, OSX Lion, IE8, 9, 10, Safari, and firefox Sep 16 18:26:48 because Palms website is crap? Sep 16 18:31:19 http://boingboing.net/2011/09/16/insurer-music-festival-tragedy-caused-by-illegal-downloading.html Sep 16 18:32:33 well it's not like they can fund the website's development with the sale of devices Sep 16 18:55:53 I have a webservice in a separate file from my main.js Sep 16 18:56:17 How can I reference it, can I just call Name.call()? Sep 16 18:56:21 Because that doesn't seem to be working =\ Sep 16 19:00:34 hello Sep 16 19:00:39 hey Sep 16 19:01:03 I have a programming question Sep 16 19:01:54 ok Sep 16 19:01:57 what's up? Sep 16 19:02:14 does anybody know how to catch tap on whole screen? Sep 16 19:02:34 is there some links to documentation? Sep 16 19:05:36 not sure Sep 16 19:06:09 torchie knows all. maybe he can help Sep 16 19:06:10 ;) Sep 16 19:06:15 basic website navigation is the stuff that you learn in highschool web development class. Sep 16 19:06:31 what did I do Sep 16 19:06:31 hey CTLAdvance PM? Sep 16 19:06:38 Sure Sep 16 19:07:38 torchie, do you know how to catch tap on the screen? Sep 16 19:08:20 I don't know jack :( Sep 16 19:09:10 ok then lol Sep 16 19:14:15 hello Sep 16 19:16:17 hey Sep 16 19:35:01 Is there a kind that's just like, a string of text Sep 16 19:35:01 a span. Sep 16 19:35:01 I can't find how I can just put a span somewhere in my app Sep 16 19:35:37 {content: "hi"} Sep 16 19:35:39 that? Sep 16 19:38:09 what do you guys use to write enyo code? Sep 16 19:39:06 a keyboard ;) Sep 16 19:39:26 Isn't she an irish singer? Sep 16 19:40:01 duncanm: Komodo Edit Sep 16 19:43:05 pre3 here I come!! Sep 16 19:43:17 buy me one too Sep 16 19:43:20 nope Sep 16 19:43:44 * PatrickC got a ridiculously good deal Sep 16 19:43:45 I SAID BUY ME ONE TOO Sep 16 19:44:24 NO! Sep 16 19:49:03 I'm cool, so get me one. ktnx Sep 16 19:49:10 PatrickC: you got a Pre 3?! Sep 16 19:49:15 yep :) Sep 16 19:49:19 gonna ship soon Sep 16 19:49:50 why am I on sprint?!?! :/ Sep 16 19:50:13 brb Sep 16 19:58:53 back :) Sep 16 19:59:48 we might be switching to AT&T :) I'm hoping we do now Sep 16 20:02:29 PatrickC whatre you gonna do with a pre3 and sprint? Sep 16 20:02:52 use it like my unlocked pre2? Sep 16 20:02:55 as a dev phone Sep 16 20:03:01 and wait to switch to AT&T? Sep 16 20:04:01 why are those questions? Sep 16 20:04:30 because like, the future is uncertain, man. Sep 16 20:05:30 lol Sep 16 20:13:28 Pre3 on AT&T will likely be ending in tears.. EDGE data I suspect. Sep 16 20:13:39 I guess it has both CDMA and GSM? Sep 16 20:13:43 why? Sep 16 20:13:44 yeah Sep 16 20:13:47 worldphone iirc Sep 16 20:14:01 and I thought they made an AT&T specific version Sep 16 20:15:35 I don't think the international models are CMDA+GSM Sep 16 20:16:31 mine is an AT&T version Sep 16 20:16:57 well, then I don't think the AT&T version has CDMA either Sep 16 20:18:23 How are you getting the model made for att? Sep 16 20:18:48 They made an AT&T Pre3? Or just same freqs? World phone means voice, not data.. Sep 16 20:18:56 there was one already I thought Sep 16 20:19:16 I don't believe the AT&T one was ever available for sale Sep 16 20:20:02 Khaytsus, http://forums.precentral.net/hp-pre-3/298205-t-pre3-16gb-not-sale.html Sep 16 20:20:12 Oh, so Pre 3 isn't a slider? Sep 16 20:20:18 summatusmentis, nope. they're in storage somewhere Sep 16 20:20:20 oh, their pictures just don't show it Sep 16 20:21:24 wrea: are we sure? Sep 16 20:21:36 I'd love an Android phone like the Pre 3. I hate typing on screens, and the vertical slider makes it easy to type one-handed Sep 16 20:21:58 summatusmentis, well, supposedly they are. But assuming that, how'd that person get one? Sep 16 20:22:43 wrea: granted. I wish they'd just let them be availabel Sep 16 20:22:46 available* Sep 16 20:22:48 follow @NashwebOSMeetup if in the greater nashville area! Sep 16 20:22:56 it's not like they're gonna do anything with them Sep 16 20:23:01 ok that does it, all of our webOS apps will now be Metro Styled Sep 16 20:23:19 summatusmentis, Same here. I want one at firesale pricing :P Sep 16 20:24:10 wrea: Did he use a Touchpad to take those pictures? Sep 16 20:24:56 hell if i know Sep 16 20:25:22 Definitely camera phone quality though Sep 16 20:25:37 * PatrickC wonders if his will have 16gb like that one Sep 16 20:26:01 It wont, dont worry Sep 16 20:26:18 hey now! that's not nice! :P Sep 16 20:26:42 meh Sep 16 20:27:14 wrea: see if I give you sms fwd'ing on legacy hw! Sep 16 20:27:16 :P Sep 16 20:27:32 twitter broke (again) for anyone else? Sep 16 20:27:55 I have a Veer. Sep 16 20:29:11 http://www.precentral.net/ATT-pre3-4g-exists-you-can-t-have-one-1 <- so I get the Pre3 4G? cool! :) Sep 16 20:29:30 Where are you getting it from? Sep 16 20:29:39 hmm I need me one of these Sep 16 20:29:48 Also, if its like the veer then is '4G' Sep 16 20:30:19 wrea: ebay Sep 16 20:30:39 what was the listing number? Sep 16 20:30:56 idk Sep 16 20:31:00 parents got it for me Sep 16 20:31:07 won't tell me price, etc. Sep 16 20:31:44 Well, i'm pretty sure you're getting one of the european ones Sep 16 20:32:54 ohwell.. I'm happy to be getting 1! no matter the carrier! lol Sep 16 20:33:42 EDGE data. mmmmmmmmm Sep 16 20:34:22 «- sprint user Sep 16 20:44:51 ah okay Sep 16 20:52:24