**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Sep 17 02:59:57 2011 Sep 17 03:19:27 Just testing wIRC on TouchPad. Sep 17 03:21:13 Does anyone know how close the patch that increases the size of legacy apps is to being released in the main feeds for Preware? Sep 17 03:21:43 like, you want it in the testing feeds? Sep 17 03:21:54 talk to rwhitby in #webos-internals I would think Sep 17 03:23:15 I think it is already in the testing feeds, but I was wondering how close it was to being 'promoted' to standard feeds. I saw Whitby in the webosinternals channel, but didn't want to bother him. Sep 17 03:23:23 rlopin: considering it has not been submitted to http://patches.webos-internals.org/, I'd say it's an infinite distance away. Sep 17 03:26:03 Thanks Rod (rwhitby). Hopefully it's one of the smaller infinities. Sep 17 06:00:55 *chirp* Sep 17 06:01:20 meow Sep 17 06:01:39 woof! Sep 17 06:02:04 moo Sep 17 07:04:30 hey all Sep 17 07:04:34 who's actually awake :) Sep 17 07:12:00 me :| Sep 17 07:12:16 lol Sep 17 07:12:31 * PatrickC_TP needs to find someone with a server he can borrow Sep 17 07:12:42 uh.. for what Sep 17 07:12:55 ampache Sep 17 07:13:03 I need it to make ampache work in my app Sep 17 07:13:32 or if the person has an existing install of ampache.. that would work too if they wanted to give me access to it :) Sep 17 07:14:03 what exactly is it that you need to do Sep 17 07:14:29 I need to have an ampache server that I can connect to so I can make my app stream music from ampache Sep 17 07:14:46 my server supports everything but PHP PutENV Support Sep 17 07:15:21 wamp ? Sep 17 07:15:48 ampache is a media server.. a lot of people host it on their server for anywhere access to their files Sep 17 07:16:01 I believe it re-encodes the file on-the-fly if needed too Sep 17 07:16:39 I've gotten many requests for it.. I don't personally use Ampache, but I would like to have the option in there. I already have the code, just need to make sure it works Sep 17 08:40:20 hi, I have an mojo app and there is display problem on pre 3 -> http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/3136/unbenanntzhe.png the bottom has no rounded corners there is always this black stripe Sep 17 08:40:25 any idea how to fix this? Sep 17 08:43:24 add Sep 17 08:43:29 into index.html Sep 17 08:46:41 yes, I just found this here https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=110&t=18263 Sep 17 08:46:43 thanks Sep 17 08:51:41 there is still a bug with this, have a look at my post here https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=110&t=18263 Sep 17 09:30:04 Heh, looks like my portable hotspot is going to mess with people who use Google Services to determine their location. My hotspot is in their database as being located at -27.470934 +153.023502 (and I don't live anywhere near there) Sep 17 09:31:03 * Hendikins found this out via GPS Info on the TouchPad (with a 429.49673 degree subtraction to the latitude figure, of course) Sep 17 09:31:50 I'm guessing that bug is still not fixed on the Pre3. Sep 17 09:33:47 how about icons on pre 3? my icons are blured because of lower resolution, which versions of my icons should be added to the package for pre 3? Sep 17 09:38:57 ArtworkAD: you can create folders called "1.5" for images with higher resolutions Sep 17 09:39:21 not sure about this, there was some doc in the forums Sep 17 09:39:46 whats that`? you mean in my in my package just a new folder? a doc would be nice Sep 17 09:40:30 not sure if this doc is public yet Sep 17 09:41:12 I think in every folder you have images you can create subfolders called "1.5" with images scaled 1.5x Sep 17 09:41:24 ok gonna try that Sep 17 09:41:30 but haven't tested it myself yet Sep 17 09:42:40 I have a pre 3 finally xD got it at ebay Sep 17 09:42:59 cant believe they sold it in stores for 79€ xD Sep 17 09:43:23 lol Sep 17 09:43:54 but the battery has quite low capacity, maybe 10 hours Sep 17 09:47:57 some info on packaging for Pre3: https://developer.palm.com/content/resources/develop/getting_ready_for_new_devices.html Sep 17 09:51:04 my app is based on mojo, does enyo run only on touchpad? Sep 17 09:51:42 Enyo is included in 2.2, but not yet allowed for submission Sep 17 09:51:57 k Sep 17 11:02:41 any idea how to enter dev mode on pre 3? Sep 17 11:08:46 ArtworkAD: webos20090606 Sep 17 11:08:52 not working? Sep 17 11:09:29 dev mode is the same on all webOS devices Sep 17 11:09:53 oh works I was just typing webOS... the os has to be in lower case Sep 17 11:10:33 pcworld: my enyo app is flagged as Pre3 and Touchpad and 2.2+ Sep 17 11:10:48 so it works now? that's nice Sep 17 11:11:14 lets hope they'll put Enyo on 2.1 devices too Sep 17 11:11:34 or, better, allow us to package Enyo inside our ipk Sep 17 11:11:46 good news, on the device this grey overlay is correct, however on the emulator it isnt Sep 17 11:12:14 ArtworkAD: so does everything work now on the Pre3 hw? Sep 17 11:12:16 welcome to mobile hardware and gamma issues Sep 17 11:12:31 yes it works fine Sep 17 11:21:35 hm are you sure this icon stuff works for pre 3, e.g. in the root folder there is the icon.png, I made a folder 1.5 with a bigger version but no result, still the blured icon Sep 17 11:25:47 when I look at the refcode from my webOS installation there is actually no hint for bigger images, all icons have 64x64 dimensions Sep 17 11:32:24 oh it works hehe, icon size is now 96x96 Sep 17 11:40:38 anyone would know of an app to use the flash as a light that would work on the pre3 ? Sep 17 11:56:07 Famic: I'm not aware of anyone finding the mechanism to light the LED on a Pre 3 yet. Sep 17 11:59:21 rwhitby: thanks for the info Sep 17 13:30:50 wtf Sep 17 13:30:57 i dropped my fone 2 feet and now the fucking screen isn't coming on Sep 17 13:30:59 what the fuck Sep 17 13:32:12 how do I 'fix' this Sep 17 13:32:38 crack it open and see if the ribbon is connected Sep 17 13:33:21 do i need screwdrivers for this? Sep 17 13:33:40 because all my tools are 10 timezones over from wher ei am Sep 17 13:33:55 any farther and they would literally be on the opposit end of the planet Sep 17 13:34:35 heh um i really don't know. it's just a suggestion based on my knowledge of electronics Sep 17 13:35:10 it looks like you need a star shaped screw driver Sep 17 13:35:13 fml Sep 17 13:35:22 i can't buy a new pre this /has/ to get working again Sep 17 13:35:25 =[ Sep 17 13:35:33 they don't sell them anymore? Sep 17 13:35:40 pre - or + ? Sep 17 13:36:13 palm pre Sep 17 13:36:24 model p100eww Sep 17 13:36:57 on sprint? Sep 17 13:37:01 yes Sep 17 13:37:19 look up replacing the screen on google Sep 17 13:37:27 the screen isn't cracked Sep 17 13:37:29 i know there are tutorials for taking the phone apart Sep 17 13:37:37 yeah but you can look at it Sep 17 13:37:50 and follow the steps to take it apart. and make sure the connections are there. diagnose it Sep 17 13:38:06 is the phone itself working at all? does the keyboard backlight work? Sep 17 13:38:38 no it doesn't Sep 17 13:38:48 but the phone vibrates when i flip the ringer on/off switch Sep 17 13:38:57 and windows detects a usb device when i plug it in Sep 17 13:39:31 do any of the keys work? you should be able to dial a number and call it, and recieve a call Sep 17 13:39:43 do you hear a woosh when you swipe up? does it act like it's on at all Sep 17 13:40:05 like I sid, I'm 10 timeszones over. There is no sprint service out here Sep 17 13:40:32 no i don' thear anything Sep 17 13:40:35 just the vibrate works Sep 17 13:42:40 8 C Sep 17 13:44:57 rwhitby: what can I do to get this working? Sep 17 13:47:49 the only response i get from it is the vibrate button Sep 17 13:47:58 i've tried pulling the battery Sep 17 13:48:02 waiting a while and putting it back in Sep 17 13:50:11 http://www.rapidrepair.com/guides/Palm-Pre/palm-pre-dissasembly-repair-guide.html Sep 17 13:52:08 i'm going to havet o orer tools from amazon to take this appart ;( Sep 17 13:59:43 this blows, I was using this phone to listen to music out here Sep 17 14:00:06 =[ yep. Sep 17 14:00:06 hmmm Sep 17 14:00:09 shaking the phone fixed it Sep 17 14:00:15 but the keybaord doesn't light up Sep 17 14:00:16 lol loose ribbon Sep 17 14:00:18 it still works though Sep 17 14:00:31 backlight % Sep 17 14:01:14 looks like the phone gods saved your arse today Sep 17 14:45:56 why is a Veer doctor so hard to do? Sep 17 14:46:05 I keep getting phone disconnect errors Sep 17 14:47:03 bnceo`: because the Veer was discontinued ;) Sep 17 14:47:23 bah! Sep 17 14:47:25 booooo Sep 17 15:04:39 bnceo`: because they use a crappy cable as their *official* cable :) Sep 17 15:04:55 yeah, it's going for warranty repair Sep 17 15:05:06 it's the panda Veer Sep 17 15:05:21 ah Sep 17 15:05:35 * PatrickC_TP waits for email saying his pre3 shipped Sep 17 15:06:17 oh man, I got mine Sep 17 15:06:19 it's a beaut Sep 17 15:06:26 srsly? Sep 17 15:06:31 ya Sep 17 15:06:41 and Bing Maps looks like it has a lil bit of enyo in it Sep 17 15:06:51 what version (of pre3) Sep 17 15:06:59 the unfindable AT&T? Sep 17 15:07:05 QWERTY EU UK Sep 17 15:07:13 it's in dev mode for now Sep 17 15:07:17 ah Sep 17 15:07:21 when I go to AT&T, it's will be my main phone Sep 17 15:07:30 mine is an AT&T version Sep 17 15:07:36 same here Sep 17 15:07:38 wth Sep 17 15:07:46 bnceo`: Maps app on Pre 3 is Enyo Sep 17 15:07:57 it's kinda sweet Sep 17 15:08:58 bnceo`: I refuse to use MS products :D Sep 17 15:09:00 pc-world: that's cool. b/c it's a new app they made in enyo. how nice of them Sep 17 15:09:03 lol Sep 17 15:09:17 in the mobile space, MS isn't the evil empire Sep 17 15:09:23 hell, even in the PC world they aren't Sep 17 15:09:27 anymore that is Sep 17 15:09:43 really, I don't want to use any product that MS may be behind Sep 17 15:10:33 ms is dumb. metro ui on windows ? uhm i apologize in advance to anyone who loves it.. but really ? that's the best they can do Sep 17 15:10:47 fxspec06: it's crap for desktops (imo) Sep 17 15:11:13 sounds like a huge cop out to me, another super rushed, over hyped, piece of crap prototype software that should have never seen the light of day Sep 17 15:11:54 ok. got my info for I can send my Veer in Sep 17 15:12:08 lata ya Sep 17 15:12:20 fxspec06: +1 Sep 17 15:12:26 every time MS comes out with something new, i start to see more and more just how mortal they truly are. they hit the nail w/ windows 7, and then they go and pull a metro Sep 17 15:12:44 =| Sep 17 15:19:31 I hate sprint. lets petition to get them back to SIM cards! Sep 17 15:20:11 "back to" SIM cards. ok ... Sep 17 15:20:23 didn't they used to be on SIM cards? Sep 17 15:20:29 I thought they did Sep 17 15:21:10 i only take heroic doses of drugs Sep 17 15:21:13 what about you guys Sep 17 15:21:34 lol Sep 17 15:22:22 i dont take less than 4 hits of acid Sep 17 15:22:35 anything less is PUSSY SHIT Sep 17 15:23:09 okay dude. w.e you say. do you realize this is the webos developer channel Sep 17 15:23:19 ok.. umm.. that is not really for this channel Sep 17 15:23:26 and everything in here is logged Sep 17 15:24:04 PatrickC: he's not going to get in trouble. i don't think anyone really cares lol Sep 17 15:24:13 lol Sep 17 15:24:13 i just think he's totally in the wrong place Sep 17 15:24:15 but still Sep 17 15:24:24 it makes for hard-to-read logs :P Sep 17 15:24:26 yeah Sep 17 16:13:22 is there any way to force a pane refresh from a different enyo.kind Sep 17 16:18:20 http://twitter.com/#!/fxspec06/status/115097015012171776 Sep 17 16:19:46 OT channel :D Sep 17 16:51:54 but he's right, if there's much traffic in #webos-internals, then here it's silent... Sep 17 16:56:06 pc-world: so #webos-internals is where people talk about coding for WebOS? Sep 17 16:56:48 err... o Sep 17 16:56:50 *no Sep 17 16:57:08 duncanm: but there are ppl who don't like OT Sep 17 16:57:14 what's OT? Sep 17 16:57:22 offtopic Sep 17 16:57:45 what *is* the topic? Sep 17 16:58:16 oh, i guess it's just internals and no SDK Sep 17 16:58:21 it's very quiet here Sep 17 16:58:34 yes Sep 17 16:58:44 that's why it needs to be OT too ;) Sep 17 16:59:10 pcworld: do you write code for WebOS? Sep 17 16:59:15 pcworld: the reason they don't like OT is because they need the logs to be readable :) Sep 17 16:59:23 duncanm: webOS* ;) Sep 17 16:59:28 boo Sep 17 16:59:48 duncanm: yes Sep 17 16:59:53 I do too Sep 17 16:59:57 many of us here do Sep 17 17:00:44 i really need to find some time to write my first enyo app Sep 17 17:00:53 i started typing in the tutorial from the SDK Sep 17 17:01:09 duncanm: do it instead of chatting in irc ;) Sep 17 17:01:24 yea yea ;-P Sep 17 17:02:29 lol Sep 17 17:02:39 * PatrickC is always in IRC while coding Sep 17 17:02:49 so I can bug Tibfib_ if something breaks Sep 17 17:03:02 i really like how enyo is built with just typing object literals Sep 17 17:03:10 at the same time, i find it kinda hard to keep track of nesting Sep 17 17:03:20 maybe i just need to get more comfortable with JS Sep 17 17:04:11 * PatrickC does too Sep 17 17:04:21 needs to get more comfy with js Sep 17 18:33:18 hey guys! what's a good way to sync or access bookmarks from a webOS device? i love instapaper but adding tags and trying to categorize links in it is clearly beyond its use case Sep 17 18:33:39 there are some apps Sep 17 18:33:58 TouchPad or phone? Sep 17 18:34:03 tp Sep 17 18:35:43 a web service would do even. I wish chrome bookmarks could be managed via a web interface Sep 17 18:36:21 they used to be browseable through google docs but even that's gone now Sep 17 18:36:53 maybe Advanced Browser has a feature to sync bookmarks? but not sure Sep 17 19:16:52 I'm having a problem where an event handling function in my main view loses visibility of items (variables and functions) in its own 'this' scope - does anyone know what could be wrong? Sep 17 19:18:54 sfrost007: I could try taking a look. pastebin? Sep 17 19:20:07 thanks, I'll just try to cut down the code to a minimal example Sep 17 19:29:06 StayInSkool: this is my main file: http://pastebin.com/zVvi0g8P Sep 17 19:29:26 StayInSkool: and this is my preferences view (with UI stripped out): http://pastebin.com/w82Pv0M8 Sep 17 19:30:33 basic flow is that the main view creates an instance of the preferences view, which in its create() function fetches the pref values from a cookie, then fires the prefsReady event Sep 17 19:31:42 in which event handler does the `this` problem happen? Sep 17 19:32:05 showLoginDialog, indirectly via the preferencesReady handler Sep 17 19:32:14 I get the error: Sep 17 19:32:17 error: Uncaught TypeError: Cannot call method 'openAtCenter' of undefined, source/Saved4Later.js:39 Sep 17 19:33:25 but if I comment line 48 (the call to showLoginDialog), my UI constructs properly and clicking the 'about' menu item (which I temporarily wired through to showLoginDialog) works fine Sep 17 19:35:07 hmm. sounds like `this.$.loginDialog` is undefined Sep 17 19:35:43 yeah, if I put that line directly in the preferencesReady function it fails with the same error Sep 17 19:36:53 hmmm. I thought it'd be a scope/closure problem but it seems like loginDialog doesn't exist at the time the event handler is executed? Sep 17 19:38:24 my knowledge of enyo isn't good enough to figure out why I'm afraid :/ Sep 17 19:38:50 yeah, I had an earlier version (based on the FeedReader example) which worked fine, where the preferences were loaded async from the palm system services "getPreferences" call Sep 17 19:39:22 seems moving it to synchronous calls in the create function is the problem Sep 17 19:39:42 are the other components defined when you hit line 48? Sep 17 19:40:25 I guess they've not been constructed because it crashes with a blank UI Sep 17 19:40:43 hrm Sep 17 19:40:57 is there a common pattern for delaying callbacks? Sep 17 20:07:48 StayInSkool: I found a workaround - it works ok when called manually from the rendered() function of the main file rather than via the create calls, so reworked it a bit to use that.. Thanks for the time anyway :) Sep 17 20:19:09 hah. Windows 8 doesn't support Metro UI stuff if your screen resolution is less than 1024x768, aka most netbooks that would get the most out of a full screen uncluttered app :T Sep 17 20:22:16 webservice question: say i need to make multiple requests through a web service. how can i specify something to be returned to the Success/Failed functions, so that I can identify which requests succeeded/failed ? Sep 17 20:27:00 EricBlade: maybe you could add a custom header to the request with some ID in it, then check for it in the request object returned to your handler? Sep 17 20:27:19 EricBlade: though the header would be sent/visible to the server that way Sep 17 20:28:52 i was wondering if i could tack on a property to the request .. does call return the request? does it even make multiple instances of the request? hmm Sep 17 20:29:38 sorry, not sure, only a beginner myself :) Sep 17 20:30:24 me too me too Sep 17 20:31:53 doesn't look like it Sep 17 20:33:45 EricBlade: you can use bind/curry to add params to the callbacks Sep 17 20:33:56 (or something like that) Sep 17 20:38:14 pcworld: as far as i know, using the enyo methods, i can only define names of functions to call, rather than anonymous functions Sep 17 20:43:07 oh yes that could be the case Sep 17 20:43:11 (kinda lame) Sep 17 21:12:14 i might? be able to override the call() function in the WebService.Request to return the results of the xhr request .. Sep 17 21:46:45 who maintains preware? Sep 17 21:48:42 WinterMute: that'd be rwhitby Sep 17 21:49:17 when's the best time to catch him? Sep 17 21:50:11 * WinterMute realised earlier that preware is using optware for the package stuff & I was thinking it might be ideal to handle packages for a set of toolchains I maintain Sep 17 21:50:40 wanted to talk to somebody about the logistics of getting it running on windows/osx Sep 17 22:00:56 WinterMute: He's in Australia, so it'd be between 6am to 8am there (depending where he lives, I'm not sure). He tends to be on fairly early though (AUS time) Sep 17 22:01:31 WinterMute: You could ask on Twitter @webosinternals Sep 17 22:43:50 hi Sep 17 22:43:58 playing with jqMobile Sep 17 22:44:28 i don't like it Sep 17 22:44:37 far too much markup Sep 17 22:45:00 rwatkins_: did you liked sencha? what do you say about jqmobile? Sep 17 23:13:16 rwhitby: nice job w/ the new testing feeds page Sep 17 23:16:53 wow. apparently the splice() array method operates differently depending on what variable scope you're using it on. am i insane, or is that insane? Sep 17 23:17:08 WinterMute: hi Sep 17 23:23:10 any way to get silverlight on web is browser? Sep 17 23:23:24 web os Sep 17 23:25:07 mrmonke, you can install an X server and run firefox, but I don't think there's an arm build of moonlight (which is what you would actually need on linux instead of silverlight) Sep 17 23:25:50 preview Sep 17 23:25:51 http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/293654_2256695330733_1048858191_2677947_1734986286_n.jpg Sep 17 23:26:01 I see, thx Sep 17 23:26:01 those be my winter wheels.. wont have a hard time finding the car in the snow :P Sep 17 23:27:31 but with wheels like that... do you want to? ;-) Sep 17 23:28:19 * mrmonke is sad, no streamed tv :-( Sep 17 23:31:50 moonlight does work, but netflix does not. moonlight doesn't do the drm needed Sep 17 23:31:51 * EricBlade is a retard Sep 17 23:33:02 halfhalo, moonlight works in a debian/ubuntu chroot? nifty Sep 17 23:33:26 RagingMind it loaded for me when i tried, at least Sep 17 23:35:20 I heard that netflix support is going to be added to chromium soon Sep 17 23:36:07 there's already a netflix app in the store, but it doesn't work on linux unless it's chrome os Sep 17 23:36:21 *in the Chrome web/app store thingie Sep 17 23:37:44 http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Pre-3-Smartphone-Verizon-3G-New-QWERTY-World-Phone-GSM-SIM-Quad-band-/280741060804?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item415d78a0c4 Sep 17 23:37:44 oh Sep 17 23:37:45 my Sep 17 23:37:46 god Sep 17 23:37:49 no way Sep 17 23:37:53 i don't believe it Sep 17 23:38:57 IT'S REAL Sep 17 23:39:04 VERIZON PRE 3 IS REAL Sep 17 23:39:18 it's a unicorn Sep 17 23:39:34 buy it Sep 17 23:39:35 gogogo Sep 17 23:39:40 omg Sep 17 23:39:46 i don't have a thousand dollars Sep 17 23:40:18 Dual-band CDMA Quad-band GSM Dual-band WCDMA Sep 17 23:40:33 If I was rich... Sep 17 23:40:46 oh man I'm drooling... Sep 17 23:40:52 http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Touchpad-4G-1-5GHz-32GB-New-Unlocked-Any-GSM-Carrier-Extremely-Rare-/280741078815?pt=US_Tablets&hash=item415d78e71f#ht_11783wt_1129 Sep 17 23:40:56 touchpad 4g!!!!!! Sep 17 23:41:18 SAME SELLER Sep 17 23:43:05 not suprised Sep 17 23:43:42 fake. Sep 17 23:43:45 7. How rare is this? Answer: About as rare as an albino unicorn giving birth to twins, one rainbow-colored, and the other clear-colored that poops out rainbows. Sep 17 23:43:55 @ the veriozn one Sep 17 23:43:59 SoulShadow: not fake Sep 17 23:44:11 http://www.precentral.net/pre-3-headed-verizon Sep 17 23:44:21 that's from april 2011. they exist. Sep 17 23:44:35 this guy just happens to have a touchpad 4g and pre 3 Sep 17 23:44:43 for att and verizon respectively Sep 17 23:45:26 i'd say it's more likely to come from a single source Sep 17 23:45:33 but that's just my opinion... Sep 17 23:46:07 not a fan of the pre's formfactor, personally. Sep 17 23:46:13 SoulShadow, die Sep 17 23:46:25 no thanks. Sep 17 23:47:04 * RagingMind looks over at his Pre+ and thinks how much prettier that spot on the desk would be if it was a Pre3 instead Sep 17 23:47:25 buyit Sep 17 23:48:09 honestly I'm shocked that's not an auction Sep 17 23:48:13 @DevsAndFriends retweeted me Sep 17 23:48:39 the "Memory" section is wrong Sep 17 23:48:45 that feels like an unofficial confirmation of it's existance Sep 17 23:49:46 i'm waiting for the wife to get rid of her pre- so i can steal her touchstone for my pre3 Sep 17 23:55:43 just re-installed the SDK. do the docs come down, or are they a seperate download? Sep 17 23:58:31 I found it: c:\Program Files\HP webOS\SDK\share\refcode\webos-framework\enyo\1.0\support\docs\api\index.html Sep 18 00:57:34 * EricBlade yawns mightily Sep 18 00:59:18 sfrost007: glad you figured it out! sorry I couldn't help. I thought my general knowledge of JS would be enough to figure it out but seems like it was more enyo specific Sep 18 01:05:14 I have over a half gig of just webOS projects.. -0_0- Sep 18 01:05:42 this is interesting Sep 18 01:06:37 how do you use the --allow-file-access-from-files switch in chrome Sep 18 01:15:39 halfhalo: so I played with a mbp yesterday. Think I'm more toward air now Sep 18 01:27:38 my contract is free. i'm eligible for an upgrade. Sep 18 01:27:54 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tCu0JkN9nc&feature=player_embedded Sep 18 01:31:56 jmdearras: windows? create another shortcut to the chrome.exe, right click, select properties and modify target Sep 18 01:34:14 NuttyBunny_: ping Sep 18 01:38:16 akanster, it doesn't work. Sep 18 01:39:16 oh, close down chrome completely before you modify & relaunch Sep 18 01:40:13 even from an actual command line, only a few chrome options work, like -start-maximized. Win7 x64 Sep 18 01:41:43 Ah, full close and launch worked, thanks! Sep 18 01:43:02 :) Sep 18 01:44:54 does anyone know how to export messages from the IM conversations? Sep 18 01:45:01 are hte logs somewhere I can easily get to? Sep 18 01:46:20 copy-paste sort-of works Sep 18 01:48:42 hmmm :( Sep 18 01:48:48 that's very slow for whole conversations. Sep 18 01:54:02 99 Sep 18 02:26:43 well, when i got the email saying it was gonna take 6-8 weeks, i called and canceled my order Sep 18 02:28:10 :( Sep 18 02:28:34 i ordered the day after the sale started :( Sep 18 02:29:34 who here would want a promo code for a poker game? and would pinky promise to leave a review? Sep 18 02:31:32 hmm. today is the first day that i've owned a webos device that i have seen 0 apps added or updated Sep 18 02:31:50 EricBlade: weekends. palm don't work on weekends. Sep 18 02:32:02 they did the last couple Sep 18 02:32:11 nope Sep 18 02:32:52 gvoice went live on the 10th, last saturday :) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Sep 18 02:59:57 2011