**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Sep 18 02:59:57 2011 Sep 18 03:28:08 oh okay. it 05:26 AM Sep 18 03:28:19 it's Sep 18 03:28:25 good nite! Sep 18 03:39:14 yo! Sep 18 03:44:33 Hey LarrySteeze|Away Sep 18 03:48:57 fxspec06: hah, a bunch of updates just went up Sep 18 03:52:00 a bunch? Sep 18 03:52:03 i don't see any Sep 18 03:52:14 -.- Sep 18 03:55:42 there's like a whole page of new things on the "New" tab Sep 18 04:05:51 ok so who claimed the touchpad has a 2gb filesize limit? Sep 18 04:11:54 hey all Sep 18 04:12:18 Hey Sep 18 04:12:24 what's up? Sep 18 04:12:26 Da|Mummy: I'll have to search the logs back a few days Sep 18 04:12:36 Shadyman: long time no see Sep 18 04:12:41 how you been? Sep 18 04:12:44 indeed Sep 18 04:12:46 been good Sep 18 04:12:52 Hello PatrickC Sep 18 04:12:53 that's awesome Sep 18 04:12:56 hey CTLAdvance Sep 18 04:13:06 oh, my proc doesn't support hyper V/VM Sep 18 04:13:09 :'( Sep 18 04:13:12 working on an Arduino contest for Seeed Studio.. Making something with their new modular "Grove" kit Sep 18 04:13:19 Yeah.... I almost figured that Sep 18 04:13:21 :( Sep 18 04:13:27 which, of course, I'll proceed to put bluetooth on, and then make an app to tie into it. Sep 18 04:13:35 I havent messed with arduino in a long time Sep 18 04:13:43 I have a project I'd like to finish one day Sep 18 04:13:46 Da|Mummy: i know that 6gig files won't work. i didn't have a 3gig file to try. Sep 18 04:13:47 * PatrickC has never heard of them Sep 18 04:13:59 hey... looks like I'll be working at Tablet Support :) Sep 18 04:14:01 well whoever said its 2gb was wrong, its 4gb like fat32 is Sep 18 04:14:19 Where/ Sep 18 04:14:20 ? Sep 18 04:14:29 i just put on a 3gb file, works, tried a 8gb file, stopped at 4gb exactly giving error that its too large Sep 18 04:14:37 I need to wait until I can afford the helium and balloon Sep 18 04:14:39 CTLAdvance: it's a blog/forum that has like 2 users Sep 18 04:14:47 Da|Mummy: That sounds reasonable. Sep 18 04:14:48 Ah yes Sep 18 04:14:59 EricBlade: its much bigger then that. 5 users! Sep 18 04:15:00 :P Sep 18 04:15:10 :o Sep 18 04:15:11 that's 5x the size of my site though :D Sep 18 04:15:16 lol Sep 18 04:15:18 lol thats more then your readership of 3 Sep 18 04:15:30 Shadyman, yes but ive read in some places that touchpad has 2gb filesize limit, and i didnt think there was any reason, but believed it, until i tried it Sep 18 04:15:35 * PatrickC had a site with about 25-30 users Sep 18 04:15:41 Da|Mummy: *nod* Sep 18 04:15:57 Regardless, once I submit this project in the next day or two, I'll get right back to polishing off my last.fm client for the TP Sep 18 04:16:14 Has palm said anything about failed transactions that show up in your app download count Sep 18 04:16:20 looks like users still get the app Sep 18 04:16:22 now why doesnt touchpad recognise umount from any of my linux machines? every time i unmount and try to remove usb, it gives me that OOWWWWW THAT HURTS! usa unmount first thing? Sep 18 04:16:25 Shadyman: there is already a last.fm client, isn't there? Sep 18 04:16:32 Da|Mummy: Yeah. Sep 18 04:16:40 PatrickC: Ffffffuuuuu-- Sep 18 04:16:49 official iirc Sep 18 04:17:00 Dammitsomuch Sep 18 04:17:21 is there something im missing when i try to unmount touchpad over linux? Sep 18 04:17:22 we could always use 3rd party ones Sep 18 04:17:24 That's what I get for waiting around Sep 18 04:17:40 well now I'm curious how mine differs as far as UI goes Sep 18 04:17:40 Shadyman: I hate using the official box.net app Sep 18 04:17:48 * Shadyman hunts down this official lastfm app Sep 18 04:18:19 PatrickC: I don't see it listed under a catalog search for "last.fm" Sep 18 04:18:42 hmm.. I think I have it downloaded Sep 18 04:18:46 give me like 5 minutes Sep 18 04:19:09 Tibfib_'s Koto Player Lite can scrobble to lastfm Sep 18 04:19:18 PatrickC: Could you be thinking Pandora? Sep 18 04:19:34 nope Sep 18 04:19:36 last.fm Sep 18 04:19:58 hmm Sep 18 04:21:06 You have a point, though.. Regardless of how their UI is set up, I'm naturally going to like mine better :p Sep 18 04:25:18 That and even if there isn't an official Last.fm app for the Touchpad, I think they'd still want to make it themselves... with good reason, of course Sep 18 04:31:26 is there seriously nothing better then touchplayer for free? what kinda crap cant play 480p on 1.5ghz? Sep 18 04:32:01 Da|Mummy: make your own Sep 18 04:32:55 With the dedicated graphics co-processor, I'd imagine it should chew through 480p just fine Sep 18 04:33:14 exactly what i thought.... Sep 18 04:41:34 Da|Mummy: do you ever have anything good to say Sep 18 04:42:10 or do you just troll? Sep 18 04:42:14 i guess not right now...just rather dissapointed in media capabilities Sep 18 04:42:18 I vote troll Sep 18 04:42:45 gee, why don't you BUY an app that handles your media capabilities for you! Sep 18 04:42:56 http://www.thepoint.com/campaigns/campaign-0-3084 Sep 18 04:42:58 oh that's right: everything should be handed directly to you Sep 18 04:43:09 with a silver fork! Sep 18 04:43:10 i forgot you're the guy who pirated 100k songs Sep 18 04:43:11 vote for that Sep 18 04:43:12 silly me Sep 18 04:43:28 * PatrickC doesn't like pirates Sep 18 04:44:18 Arr! Sep 18 04:44:35 those kind r nice :) Sep 18 04:46:55 oh crap! talk like a pirate day is MONDAYaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrr Sep 18 04:47:04 !! Sep 18 04:47:11 lol Sep 18 04:47:18 Totally going to do this at work... CRAP Sep 18 04:47:22 not working monday :( Sep 18 04:48:01 fxspec06_, its really not asking too much to have good media playablity on a 1.5ghz tablet...why a good player isnt in by default is my question Sep 18 04:49:01 its.. umm.. not 1.5GHz... Sep 18 04:49:51 according to qualcomm, it is Sep 18 04:50:04 it comes running at 1.2GHz Sep 18 04:50:40 ^ Sep 18 04:50:54 For great justice and/or battery life Sep 18 04:51:14 then explain 64kb/sec limit Sep 18 05:02:34 anyone else have issues with setting default apps in 3.0.2? Sep 18 05:05:33 Da|Mummy: the processor is not 1.5ghz. The APQ8060 used in the Touchpad is spec'd at 1.2Ghz. Sep 18 05:09:03 http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CDIQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.qualcomm.com%2Fdocuments%2Ffiles%2Fsnapdragon-msm8x60-apq8060-product-brief.pdf&rct=j&q=APQ8060&ei=anx1Tvb9LKrj0QG8qq3NDQ&usg=AFQjCNG3SjQt7omrBv0vq8YexHR6QjdM9w&cad=rja Sep 18 05:09:08 show me where it says 1.2? Sep 18 05:13:00 it says "up to" Sep 18 05:14:07 the APQ model is 1.2Ghz, the MSM series are up to 1.5G Sep 18 05:14:44 http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a8060&c=qualcomm_snapdragon_apq8060 Sep 18 05:14:56 Honestly though, if you are always trolling webOS why not just leave the platform... Sep 18 05:15:24 Come back when they release something that meets your needs Sep 18 05:16:21 CTLAdvance speaks the truth Sep 18 05:16:24 cause android and iOS are worse :{ Sep 18 05:16:32 then go blackberry or bada Sep 18 05:16:38 or go Symbian or WP7 Sep 18 05:16:45 or win8 Sep 18 05:16:46 but this is for webos talk, not bashing or trashing Sep 18 05:16:56 ^ Sep 18 05:16:58 lol... you cant clearly mean that? IOS and Android have everything you are complaining about here Sep 18 05:17:05 im not bashing webos, i like it a lot Sep 18 05:17:12 though multitasking on android is a joke Sep 18 05:17:15 even through 3.2 Sep 18 05:17:18 but still.... Sep 18 05:17:43 does anyone know how to close the apps on honeycomb? I could never figure it out Sep 18 05:17:49 webos has everything android/ios need, while android/ios have everything webos needs Sep 18 05:18:47 So by that statement, and your prev. you clearly need IOS or Android Sep 18 05:18:56 * CTLAdvance is the antitroll Sep 18 05:19:07 no thank you Sep 18 05:19:24 iOS isnt even worth my troll Sep 18 05:20:22 all bids canceled on the Pre3 on AT&T on ebay Sep 18 05:20:35 I was high bid at 620 when it got deleted Sep 18 05:20:37 =\ Sep 18 05:21:09 boo Sep 18 05:21:15 why was it canceled? Sep 18 05:22:13 I wish HP would provide these to the blackbelt devs. Sep 18 05:22:20 They must have a bunch of them Sep 18 05:22:55 No idea. Trying to contact the seller Sep 18 05:23:00 and other potential sellers Sep 18 05:23:09 I feel like I'm a GM working on the trading deadline Sep 18 05:23:19 I have a UK Pre3, but man, I want that AT&T one so badly Sep 18 05:24:12 CTLAdvance: They're pretty sweet! :-) Sep 18 05:24:18 to have full 3G and maybe some of that 3.5G HSPA+ would be awesome Sep 18 05:24:27 lemketron: don't do that to us =( Sep 18 05:24:33 haha Sep 18 05:24:36 I know us blackbelts are sweet, but what about the pre3's Sep 18 05:24:37 ;) Sep 18 05:25:20 lemketron: I will trade you a 32gb Wifi Touchpad for a Att Pre3 or Att Touchpad :) Sep 18 05:25:24 NIB Sep 18 05:25:32 lemketron: he makes a good point. I would say: blackbelts, some on sale (to real people, not resellers) and hold a contest to sell some. Sep 18 05:25:46 I'll gather all my HP/Palm devices and take a pic. Sep 18 05:25:52 too bad the belts dont mean anything :/ Sep 18 05:25:58 I don't need any more TouchPads at this point. ;-) Sep 18 05:26:12 * oil always uses the same example to make that point Sep 18 05:26:13 * bnceo is being mentally tortured Sep 18 05:26:32 that PatrickC made it to brown without knowing how to use a single if statement Sep 18 05:26:39 though I could use a few more AT&T SIMs... Sep 18 05:26:42 I can have 500USD wired into your accounts tomorrow. Tell me the numbers and where you want to meet. Sep 18 05:26:57 Though I have accidentally wired 5000 and you need to send me a check for the rest Sep 18 05:27:02 lol Sep 18 05:27:02 ;) Sep 18 05:27:08 You want SIMS! Sep 18 05:27:11 cashier's check, right? Sep 18 05:27:16 Yes Sep 18 05:27:21 Made out to cash Sep 18 05:27:22 make it a blank check Sep 18 05:27:36 I also need your birthdate and SSN to verify Sep 18 05:27:53 don't you mean those last three digits off the back of my credit card? ;-) Sep 18 05:28:07 but hey, I can forget the rest if I had a 4g touchpad Sep 18 05:28:18 hi lemketron Sep 18 05:28:26 no, I need a new cell phone account in New Mexico Sep 18 05:28:31 yay, the privilege of paying for another data connection! Sep 18 05:28:35 lol Sep 18 05:28:56 just what i always wanted Sep 18 05:28:58 Nah, I just use mobile hotspot on whichever phone I'm using. Sep 18 05:29:16 i mean, i've only got 2 connections to the internet atm Sep 18 05:29:19 3 would just be perfect Sep 18 05:29:21 :) Sep 18 05:29:26 The Veer makes an awesome mobile hotspot device. Sep 18 05:29:34 love the Veer Sep 18 05:29:49 There is something about not having to dick with a mobile hotspot, and a joke about that as well Sep 18 05:30:12 The Veer is my phone on the go Sep 18 05:30:22 when I got the TouchPad with me on the road Sep 18 05:30:40 * halfhalo wants pre3... grrr Sep 18 05:30:48 but yes, veer is great for mhs Sep 18 05:30:55 * CTLAdvance uses an iPhone 4 with the Touchpad Sep 18 05:31:13 I am however tempted to activate this veery, its interesting how small it is Sep 18 05:31:15 * oil uses his touchpad on wifi, has never needed to tether it Sep 18 05:31:19 Yes, "small, medium, and large" is pretty cool. I don't really carry my Pre 2 any more. Sep 18 05:31:33 its too bad that medium was never released in the us xD Sep 18 05:31:34 I have Small, medium, large, and XL Sep 18 05:31:41 veer, pre2, pre3, TP Sep 18 05:31:46 but it's a UK Pre3 =( Sep 18 05:32:03 Lemketron has an equal amount of pre3's laying around as foleos Sep 18 05:32:15 i'll take one of each! Sep 18 05:32:18 lol you dont have large Sep 18 05:32:35 Have you forgot that 4.7 is not the new craze Sep 18 05:32:38 No, I only have one Foleo. Sep 18 05:32:59 so you have more pre3's then foleo's.... Sep 18 05:33:08 s/not/now Sep 18 05:33:34 =( Sep 18 05:33:36 4.7 ? Sep 18 05:33:37 :'( Sep 18 05:33:52 just gonna be sad as people talk about AT&T Pre3s and Foleos =\ Sep 18 05:34:14 FOOLS, bow down to the titan Sep 18 05:34:22 or get a holster Sep 18 05:34:23 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Titan Sep 18 05:34:35 4.7" SLCD Sep 18 05:34:48 And there is also the android variant Sep 18 05:35:25 I am interested to see metro on that monster Sep 18 05:35:34 all that size and still only 512GB of RAM Sep 18 05:35:36 kinda sad Sep 18 05:35:56 Titan runs WP7, doesnt need anymore Sep 18 05:36:00 the android version does Sep 18 05:36:33 7.5 to be exact Sep 18 05:36:40 WP7 is extremely opt. for the hardware, you also only need a single core 1ghz proc for it to run buttery smooth. Sep 18 05:36:41 so, how much with contract? 199? Sep 18 05:36:47 I'm stuck on contract till April, so until then I'm stuck with my Pre+ (unless I find a sweet deal on a Pre2) Sep 18 05:36:51 not sure, I dont think its out Sep 18 05:37:01 it's not out, just asking for a guess Sep 18 05:37:12 cause I might look to get one when I switch to AT&T Sep 18 05:37:14 Yeah, prob 199/249 Sep 18 05:37:25 This is what WebOS needs to run on Sep 18 05:37:34 I've played with WP7 phones in the store... Um wow I'd hate to have to actually use that from day to day Sep 18 05:37:38 though I'll only get it to play with. the UK PRe3 will be my main phone along with the Veer Sep 18 05:37:43 though it needs 3 times the ra,m Sep 18 05:38:02 I wasn't sure about the veer until I played with one at ATT... now I kinda want one :) Sep 18 05:38:05 WP7 is nice. I like it a lot Sep 18 05:38:14 Yeah pre mango it wasnt that good. The mango update is awesome Sep 18 05:38:26 cards and multitasking and everything else Sep 18 05:38:32 the fact that it took android until now to make scrolling smooth on the apps page is sad Sep 18 05:38:44 the iPhone has always has this effect on sliding on ice Sep 18 05:39:00 mango has cards and multitasking? those thieving bastards! Sep 18 05:40:05 But alas so many great OS choices (less android) ok 2 other good choices, and somehow we are all still here on webOS Sep 18 05:41:14 there are WAY too many android phones in the verizon store Sep 18 05:41:41 I get super bored when I go in to play with things... there's just nothing interesting. Sep 18 05:41:43 s/in the verizon store// Sep 18 05:41:45 I get confused with all the DROID phones Sep 18 05:41:48 fixed that for you Sep 18 05:41:50 Verizon is the Android Robots pimp.... there are to many hot pieces of bot in the verizon store Sep 18 05:41:58 ;) Sep 18 05:42:58 anyone know a way to get our cameras working in flash? Sep 18 05:43:24 What could fix this webOS fiasco... a 4G touchpad... in my hands, by tuesday Sep 18 05:44:07 I *love* my touchpad... my laptop is effectively a desktop now Sep 18 05:48:06 RagingMind, sprint store is the same thing all android eww Sep 18 05:48:59 PatrickC: Any luck on finding that last.fm app? Sep 18 05:49:08 lost.fm? Sep 18 05:49:13 I use it on my pre Sep 18 06:06:37 Hello! Sep 18 06:06:54 'nite... Sep 18 06:07:36 anyone have a Sprint Pixi for sale cheap? Sep 18 06:09:50 why would anyone want a sprint pixi-? Sep 18 06:10:09 I have a Sprint Pixi Plus Sep 18 06:10:11 haeffb Sep 18 06:10:13 get a sprint frankenpre2 instead man Sep 18 06:10:25 maybe he can't get a Pre2 Sep 18 06:10:42 and he needs someone to do it if he is afraid to Sep 18 06:11:10 plenty of people would do it for haeffb Sep 18 06:11:41 I'm sure of it. But how many would do it for free. He'll have to be without a sprint phone for a while Sep 18 06:12:32 so has the webOS calendar -ever- had attendee/invite feature at-all?? Sep 18 06:16:54 he has a Sprint Pre2 Sep 18 06:17:00 his wife wants a pixi Sep 18 06:17:56 got one from ebay for $80 Sep 18 06:18:18 i forgot that sprint no can has sims :( Sep 18 06:22:24 How much you looking to buy the Pixi for? Sep 18 06:44:14 hi Sep 18 10:58:21 is there a way to access the pre3 over wifi in order to add/remove music from it ? Sep 18 11:01:55 Hi Sep 18 11:02:21 If I activate my Pre 3 in an unsupported country, will I get access to the App Catalog? Sep 18 13:08:40 hey guys, is there a good PDF reader that's touchpad compatible? one with bookmarks and highlighting would be great :D Sep 18 13:12:57 there's one built in? Sep 18 13:14:40 It sucks Sep 18 13:14:51 You've clearly never used it klausa :P Sep 18 13:15:00 I did. Sep 18 13:15:02 It's... Sep 18 13:15:03 PDF reader. Sep 18 13:15:43 Well the most obvious issue is that when you exit the app it doesn't save your spot Sep 18 13:15:56 Which is a problem when you try and read books on it Sep 18 13:17:04 doesn't Kindle support reading pdfs? Sep 18 13:18:37 Ah. Sep 18 13:23:03 morn'n all Sep 18 13:31:14 Bmyers: evening Sep 18 13:33:39 depending where u are i suppose. Sep 18 13:33:53 pcworld kind of but from what I can gather you can't just drag and drop PDFs into it and expect it to work Sep 18 13:33:58 Not that I've tried though Sep 18 13:34:39 I have no TP at all, just read somewhere that it's possible Sep 18 13:37:37 Kindle, as in hardware, supports PDFs. Sep 18 13:37:51 I don't think that Kindle Reader does. Sep 18 13:42:29 The app does if you convert it to mobi and email it your kindle account apparently Sep 18 15:01:24 hi Sep 18 15:01:34 hello Sep 18 15:03:21 i never used metrix, and one of my user has a bug, no ones have Sep 18 15:03:34 is it possible with metrix, that the error is sended to me? Sep 18 15:04:05 i'm not familiar w/ it very much, but from what i understand it is possible Sep 18 15:17:56 i think he did something strange with the app or database, but in last step i will have to give him his money back Sep 18 15:51:22 Tibfib_, o Sep 18 15:51:23 yi Sep 18 15:51:24 yo Sep 18 15:51:27 there we go Sep 18 15:51:50 PuffTheMagic_, what's up? Sep 18 15:52:17 Tibfib, spaz should use the synergy api to "store" its accounts Sep 18 15:52:23 that way it gets backed up to profile Sep 18 15:52:31 and people could log in after doctoring and shit Sep 18 15:52:46 PuffTheMagic: you're welcome to do so :) http://github.com/funkatron/Spaz-Enyo/ Sep 18 15:53:03 like i dont have enough projects ;) Sep 18 15:53:22 hah. you're the one that wants it. Sep 18 15:53:47 i just think it would be cool if spaz was in the accounts list with facebook and skype and all that shit Sep 18 15:53:54 yeah, would be cool Sep 18 15:54:02 but then it wouldn't work well with other environments Sep 18 15:54:13 one of the goals of spaz hd was to have the code portable for other platforms Sep 18 15:54:20 (we thought hp might open source it) Sep 18 15:54:40 s/might/would/ Sep 18 15:54:44 lol Sep 18 15:54:57 ^^ sums it up Sep 18 15:55:14 Tibfib, they dont fully grasp OSS Sep 18 15:55:30 I think the people who made enyo itself, like matt, do. Sep 18 15:55:35 however people higher up don't. Sep 18 15:57:36 thats who im talking about Sep 18 15:57:52 the layers and execs Sep 18 15:58:00 yep Sep 18 15:58:43 so what is everyone going to do? Stick with webOS? getting a new phone? deving for a new platform? Sep 18 15:59:04 i'm going to school. i'm sticking with webos for right now, but... my contract is up right now. Sep 18 15:59:29 if pre 3 doesn't come out on verizon, i.e. i'm not able to use my super duper discount w/ a verizon pre3, then i'll prolly get an iphone 5 Sep 18 16:00:47 yeah Sep 18 16:00:55 deciding between iPhone 5 and a WP7 device Sep 18 16:01:19 yeah WP7 would be my only other option to even look at Sep 18 16:01:28 ewwww Sep 18 16:01:40 i would def go droid before any MS product Sep 18 16:02:08 android is soo awful. Sep 18 16:02:21 but its open at least Sep 18 16:02:27 i can still have fun on it Sep 18 16:02:31 "open" you mean Sep 18 16:02:49 google is not open Sep 18 16:03:04 the software is, the bootloaders of the phones might not be Sep 18 16:03:14 which is complete opposite of palm/webos Sep 18 16:03:21 bootloaders open, OS is fairly closed Sep 18 16:03:29 true.. Sep 18 16:03:44 but it is awful Sep 18 16:04:07 well i am hoping HP is still working on webos 3.x for phones Sep 18 16:04:18 and maybe some of those changes will leak into new TP releases Sep 18 16:04:35 i think the TP doctor could be used to get webos on HTC devices Sep 18 16:04:38 PuffTheMagic: can't imagine this, at least not for current phones Sep 18 16:04:52 pcworld, no not for current phones Sep 18 16:05:02 but if they are serious about finding a new HW partner Sep 18 16:05:10 they need it on "new future" phones Sep 18 16:05:18 which means they still need to be working on it Sep 18 16:05:38 PuffTheMagic: can't imagine this either / re: partner Sep 18 16:06:00 pcworld, u dont think they will find one, or u dont think they are looking for one Sep 18 16:06:17 kinda both Sep 18 16:06:27 Leo has zero interest in webOS IMO Sep 18 16:06:29 so u are in the webos is dead boat i see Sep 18 16:06:47 I'm in the "very unsure" boat ;) Sep 18 16:06:57 but I'm not optimistic with Leo Sep 18 16:08:19 PuffTheMagic: as long as there's enough Homebrew activity it isn't very "dead" Sep 18 16:08:53 the fact the he wants to pull the plug on PC hardware as well is a good sign Sep 18 16:09:08 makes it more likely it is a hardware thing and not a webos thing Sep 18 16:09:14 pcworld, if there is no new HW its dead! Sep 18 16:09:49 pcworld, 900k new TP users gives webos a little extra life but it wont last long Sep 18 16:10:37 i disagree. i am a firm believer that webos can live for a long time with a userbase that large Sep 18 16:10:45 the os is too good Sep 18 16:11:07 PuffTheMagic: sure, not long; that's why I said "enough" Sep 18 16:11:58 currently webOS is more or less dead from HP's perspective, but there are still many users using it Sep 18 16:12:48 pcworld, i think of webos as a senior in a nursing home that cant wipe its own ass Sep 18 16:13:01 sure it might "be alive" for a few more years Sep 18 16:13:08 i wouldnt exactly call that a life though Sep 18 16:13:46 I'm not talking about years, I'm talking about a few months Sep 18 16:14:02 pcworld, sorry that was for fxspec06 Sep 18 16:23:25 /wl Sep 18 17:52:32 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IVkj_vdY6s&feature=player_embedded - whoa Sep 18 18:05:41 akanster :( Sep 18 18:31:00 hi all! Sep 18 18:36:06 hello, does HP keep maintain webOS ? Sep 18 18:36:14 *maintaining Sep 18 18:36:51 if you want to consider giving us free apps every 2 weeks maintaining, yes most definitely. Sep 18 18:37:08 hi JenP Sep 18 18:37:16 sugardave! hiya! Sep 18 18:37:17 Pip: yes, webOS is still being maintained Sep 18 18:37:25 more than just maintained, really Sep 18 18:37:35 good Sep 18 18:38:50 Does that mean touchpad is worthy being posessed ? Sep 18 18:39:01 uh, most definitely Sep 18 18:39:17 get one, you'll love it Sep 18 18:39:18 How much does it cost there ? Sep 18 18:39:40 I"m not sure you can get them right now, though....ebay might be the best place and probably expensive Sep 18 18:39:50 :D Sep 18 18:39:52 but, there's the #touchpad channel and they might know a lot more in there about how/where to get them Sep 18 18:43:57 is there a function that gets called in enyo apps when they are closed/killed? Sep 18 18:44:12 PuffTheMagic: you need an ApplicationEvents kind Sep 18 18:44:21 then listen for onWindowDeactivated Sep 18 18:44:33 at least...there are probably other events Sep 18 18:45:11 because that one will fire when it gets carded Sep 18 18:45:43 PuffTheMagic: it's onUnload Sep 18 18:46:31 what is the difference between 'enyo' apps on regular apps? Sep 18 18:46:37 is there a patch to set the PalmPre screensaver to a different clock? or just to turn it off? Sep 18 18:46:56 lol pre is old skoooool Sep 18 18:47:06 enyo apps just use the new enyo framework and are primarily "web apps" with html/js/css Sep 18 18:47:15 ah k Sep 18 18:47:20 JenP: I think so, but I still don't patch much Sep 18 18:47:31 Yeah I know. but I have 4 of them around and want to turn them into alarm clocks Sep 18 18:49:32 haha Sep 18 18:50:39 JenP, there are clock themes Sep 18 18:50:59 thanks RagingMind i'll look into them Sep 18 18:51:08 oh, awesome, when I go into Exhibition mode, all of my exhibition apps start. (not really awesome) Sep 18 18:51:13 not sure if they work on 1.4.5, but on my 2.1 Pre+ they work Sep 18 18:54:36 dude. Sep 18 19:00:58 Anyone have any ideas why my WebView won't load any content? All calls to it in the log are followed by "queued!" Sep 18 19:02:41 sfrost007: it does that when the webview is hidden Sep 18 19:04:25 EricBlade: hmm.. is there a reason it might think it's hidden when it's not? it's in the startup view of my app, and there's space for it in the layout but the area is just grey Sep 18 19:05:23