**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Oct 19 02:59:57 2011 Oct 19 03:12:36 hey all Oct 19 03:13:06 * DougReeder waves to PatrickC Oct 19 03:13:34 hey DougReeder Oct 19 03:19:07 * PatrickC hates when things like that happen :/ Oct 19 03:23:33 sooo google nexus is not bad. Oct 19 03:23:44 I'd buy it under $300 Oct 19 03:25:36 but I'm now in contract, so taht's not happening Oct 19 03:28:08 "To avoid being charged for the loaner device/s, at the rate of $149.99 per device, along with shipping fees and applicable taxes and duties, please return your device/s to the address below no later than October 31, 2011 or email proof of trackable shipm Oct 19 03:28:08 ent of the device no later than October 31, 2011. If the product or proof of trackable shipment is not received by October 31, 2011, we will assume you have decided to purchase the device/s and your credit card will be charged per the rate above on Octobe Oct 19 03:28:08 r 31, 2011." Oct 19 03:28:14 eh, I'll buy 'em :) Oct 19 03:29:24 I should have pushed harder for a loaner Pre3. Oct 19 03:30:32 they didn't offer it Oct 19 03:30:41 what's the tp's screen size? Oct 19 03:32:05 1024x768, or something over 9" diagonally. Oct 19 03:33:35 helo folks! Oct 19 03:33:37 <|Jason8|> 9.6" Oct 19 03:33:47 LOL Oct 19 03:33:52 what's 9.6 inches Oct 19 03:34:19 ... Oct 19 03:34:27 <|Jason8|> my dick, of course. Oct 19 03:34:37 haha Oct 19 03:34:46 eighthree: long time no talk Oct 19 03:34:48 proof of such claims is of course required Oct 19 03:34:53 hey PatrickC :D Oct 19 03:34:56 hey seretogis Oct 19 03:35:02 hey babe <3 Oct 19 03:35:03 :D Oct 19 03:35:07 just got home lawl Oct 19 03:35:08 <|Jason8|> alright Oct 19 03:35:10 <|Jason8|> lemmie find a ruler Oct 19 03:35:13 <|Jason8|> i'll snap a pic Oct 19 03:35:25 lol Oct 19 03:35:29 a/s/l? Oct 19 03:35:44 <|Jason8|> 13/f/cali Oct 19 03:42:22 ... Oct 19 03:42:54 envious, halfhalo? Oct 19 03:44:11 LOL Oct 19 03:44:54 lol Oct 19 03:45:14 oh seretogis Oct 19 03:45:37 I don't understand the Galaxy Nexus. a 4.65" screen with on-screen buttons (no hardware buttons on the face), and yet it still has a huge bezel that makes it larger than an EVO or a Droid X Oct 19 03:48:50 EricBlade: ping Oct 19 03:49:00 PatrickC: pong Oct 19 03:49:05 I'll /msg you Oct 19 03:52:03 I thought it couldn't get any sillier than having an entire row of capacitive buttons Oct 19 03:52:09 but then it did Oct 19 03:53:43 ICE CREAM SANDWICHES! Oct 19 03:55:07 hey EricBlade Oct 19 03:55:22 hey eighthree Oct 19 03:56:25 "Multitasking is the exact same as cards except they go up and down instead of left and right. To be fair, at this point just about everyone has stolen cards, but it just goes to show you how far ahead webOS truly is." Oct 19 03:56:59 Given is the same UI/UX guy as webOS are you surpised? Oct 19 03:57:31 rwatkins: hmm? Oct 19 03:57:32 "i think this is a good idea" doenst change if you work at Palm, and then later Google. Oct 19 03:57:38 i haven't been able to figure out how to actually multitask in android, it just restarts any program unless i go right back to it, just like iOS does Oct 19 03:57:47 wait.. what? I never knew that.. lol Oct 19 03:58:00 EricBlade: yeah.. its.. weird Oct 19 03:58:26 Same person behind the user experience of ICS is the same person behind webOS. Oct 19 03:58:34 I suppose time will tell if Duarte is right Oct 19 03:59:00 he's landing a straight attack at the two best UXes in smartphones Oct 19 03:59:03 rwatkins: oh wow Oct 19 03:59:04 indeed. we'll see if iOS is right or Android is. Oct 19 03:59:05 and using android of all things to do it Oct 19 03:59:53 This kinda holds it's own against iOS 5. Oct 19 04:00:07 he's against iOS' photorealism and wp7's minimalism Oct 19 04:00:11 and ice cream sandwich looks alright Oct 19 04:00:15 but what does it like Oct 19 04:00:17 mean, man? Oct 19 04:00:51 I'm hoping ICS is a viable replacement for my old pre- Oct 19 04:01:16 "I'm hoping Windows 7 is a viable repleacement for my Toaster." huh? Oct 19 04:01:26 ICS is an OS. Pre- is a Phone. Oct 19 04:01:55 ICS seems fine and dandy but the Galaxy Nexus is not my next phone, unfortunately. Oct 19 04:02:08 rwatkins: I ment webOS Oct 19 04:02:10 Google Maps Navigation is addictive thing. That alone has kept me on android for a while Oct 19 04:02:12 the nexus S is my phone and my fingers are crossed for an update Oct 19 04:02:32 Pre3 is my main phone, Nexus S is my backup. Oct 19 04:02:45 I find both android and webOS frustrating but in different ways Oct 19 04:02:52 which I just used for car mode navigation two nights ago actually. Oct 19 04:02:56 webOS is really just frustrating as an OS because of the pre minus, though Oct 19 04:03:02 or that's what I like to think Oct 19 04:03:15 does it still get balls-choppy on the pre 3 Oct 19 04:03:42 in some ways the pre3 is much smoother, and but there are still the occassional hickups. Oct 19 04:03:54 man can a brotha just get 60fps all the time Oct 19 04:03:58 much better hardware, software still not fully polished. Oct 19 04:04:04 rwatkins: I wish I could use my pre3 as my main phone Oct 19 04:04:12 but I can't justify switching carriers Oct 19 04:04:16 brb Oct 19 04:04:44 Supposedly ICS still lags on the new nexus Oct 19 04:04:45 2.2 was clearly just a stopgap on the path to 3.0. Oct 19 04:04:46 which is just like Oct 19 04:04:49 what Oct 19 04:04:57 torchie: ugh Oct 19 04:05:23 that's one thing that amazed me about WP7, even on crappy little processors it is smooooooth as butter Oct 19 04:05:36 they hire an actual designer, integrate the software with the hardware, throw a dual core CPU in it and it still gets framerate drops with no extra apps installed on a demo unit? Oct 19 04:05:44 eh, iOS is smooth because Jobs would litterally have ripped your head off if you tried to ship anything that wasnt. Oct 19 04:05:47 whereas webOS and android lag with nothing open :((( Oct 19 04:05:59 so features cut, or anything to prevent lag. Oct 19 04:06:03 makes me want to switch to WP7 Oct 19 04:06:09 same here Oct 19 04:06:20 I really hope that Nokia's announcement on the 26th/27th kicks ass Oct 19 04:06:20 so iOS is smooth because Jobs wanted it to work Oct 19 04:06:24 wp7 is pretty ;3 waiting for that damned nokia phone Oct 19 04:06:40 http://swipe.nokia.com with wp7 plz Oct 19 04:06:47 iOS is smooth because it shavez. Oct 19 04:06:48 I'm waiting and seeing if ICS will keep me on android or push me to trade on craigslist for an HTC Arrive if that's even viable Oct 19 04:06:51 iOS is smooth because Jobs accepted no compromise. in other areas - say features, iOS has compromised for smoothness. Oct 19 04:06:59 iOS is smooth because it's built by asians Oct 19 04:07:05 lawl Oct 19 04:07:12 and asians are so smooth Oct 19 04:07:14 everywhere Oct 19 04:07:16 they really are Oct 19 04:07:17 EVERYWHERE. Oct 19 04:07:22 like how do they get their faces like that Oct 19 04:07:30 aside from tea and fish Oct 19 04:07:58 Still trying to figure out duarte's design language Oct 19 04:08:05 I expect w/o his singular vision at the head, its going to get watered dwown. Oct 19 04:08:10 down Oct 19 04:08:16 yeah Oct 19 04:08:26 oh deaarrr Oct 19 04:08:29 honeycomb seemed like it was trying, but either duarte came at the last minute or had no say Oct 19 04:09:14 its mentioned in the interview on thisismynext Oct 19 04:09:28 http://thisismynext.com/2011/10/18/exclusive-matias-duarte-ice-cream-sandwich-galaxy-nexus/ Oct 19 04:09:49 and of course android's a ship with no conductor and a crew of 200 million, so duarte's vision may bump up against the side of a lighthouse or end up in the bermuda Oct 19 04:09:55 captain* Oct 19 04:10:31 he says "more like driving an aircraft carrier than a zippy agile car" Oct 19 04:10:39 clearly hard to steer the ship Oct 19 04:11:29 if the ship can be steered Oct 19 04:11:55 ugh, apps don't install when in exhibition mode now? wtf? or is my touchpad just being slow as hell Oct 19 04:12:05 all I know is I feel pretty sorry for motorola Oct 19 04:15:16 maybe next round for the android reference phone goes to Motorola. this one may have just happened to late Oct 19 04:15:29 or maybe google just doesnt care, and its was all about only the patents anyway Oct 19 04:16:59 yeah Oct 19 04:17:01 $12 billion dollars Oct 19 04:17:02 for patents Oct 19 04:17:44 how much is MSFT making off them a year? $12billion may not be a bad deal. Oct 19 04:18:36 it's funny how much Microsoft is making off of Android without having won a lawsuit Oct 19 04:19:13 MSFT's making the cash on the OEMs Oct 19 04:20:00 I've heard different stories about google's android revenues, none of them leading to "motorola was cheap" Oct 19 04:20:37 mobile advertising revenue $2.5 bill, two thirds of it iOS Oct 19 04:20:41 not cheap for what they got, but potentially worth if it its keep Android from getting killed on patents. Oct 19 04:21:11 looking at how strategic Android is to Google as a company, and the value of Google itself. Oct 19 04:21:20 the question now is what is android worth to google Oct 19 04:21:51 I guess they're trying harder now because now it's worth more, what with a multi pronged ambush from siri/wolfram and bing instead of google being the one and only on other platforms Oct 19 04:23:17 spending $5k for a fire extinguisher is not a good deal, but its worth it to save your house. Oct 19 04:23:40 but android isn't the whole house Oct 19 04:23:47 ok, your bedroom. Oct 19 04:23:57 it's more like the shed out back Oct 19 04:24:19 mobile is the future. its most of the house a few years from now. Oct 19 04:35:26 so touch to share pretty much has to be the HP logo on the Pre3 to the Home button on the TP? that specific a touch area? Oct 19 04:35:40 yeah but apparently its a "software" thing… :S Oct 19 04:35:41 idk Oct 19 04:37:28 the location is the location of the hardware coils Oct 19 04:37:47 hey rwhitby :D! Oct 19 04:38:31 sorry about posing a development question, but what discipline/topic of CSS do I need to learn to use the technique that is used in webOS for image buttons, where the top-half of a 32x64 image is used in one state, and the bottom half in another state? Oct 19 04:39:00 css sprites Oct 19 04:39:10 eighthree: look out, you'll be shunned for on-topic discussion ;) Oct 19 04:39:27 s/eighthree/EricBlade/ Oct 19 04:39:42 now that that question has been answered, back to 9.5" penises and android/google! Oct 19 04:41:09 EricBlade you use "background-image" and align it either to the top or bottom. Oct 19 04:46:17 * DougReeder waves goodnight Oct 19 05:15:37 is anyone else not able to use promo codes? 3.0.4 Oct 19 06:07:38 gah i was under the impression the dashboard change in 3.0.4 wouldn't affect me but it does. dammit. Oct 19 09:43:15 hi guys. i made an app in enyo and tested it on my pre3, the pre3 emulator and touchpad emulator with the result they are all working. now i get reports it's not working on the real touchpad, any ideas? Oct 19 09:59:53 copystring1: well, "not working" is rarely a helpful bug report :) Oct 19 10:02:08 :D Oct 19 10:14:19 that's the reports i'm getting from the users :D Oct 19 10:16:54 is it in the app catalog? Oct 19 10:25:53 no, it's on preware Oct 19 10:26:25 which one? Oct 19 10:26:29 i'll check Oct 19 10:26:43 proxify Oct 19 10:28:19 ok, starting the app works ;) Oct 19 10:28:46 :D Oct 19 10:29:06 you're on a touchpad i assume Oct 19 10:29:13 yep Oct 19 10:29:17 3.0.4? Oct 19 10:29:20 yep Oct 19 10:29:23 hm Oct 19 10:30:06 there are api changes. proxify isn't updated for that yet. regardless of that i've had reports proxify wasn't working on 3.0.2 Oct 19 10:31:12 oh ok Oct 19 10:31:49 it's only 3 a line change to make it work on the TP. it'd break on the pre3 though ... Oct 19 10:32:20 hm, 2 versions then? Oct 19 10:32:57 that or one that works for both Oct 19 10:34:19 i have to look into that. but you could do me one favour. when you start the app, in the top right corner, there is the edit button. when you tap that and just enter a name in the first field at the top, does that make the "Add" button available? Oct 19 10:35:17 jep Oct 19 10:35:20 it does Oct 19 10:35:26 cool Oct 19 10:35:42 someone reported that isn't working. i don't know what he's doing that Oct 19 10:35:45 then* Oct 19 10:36:23 definitly working, just tapped the "add" button and the new proxy shows up in the list Oct 19 10:36:59 awesome. it is working then apart from the API change. at least the UI is not broken :) Oct 19 10:37:07 :) Oct 19 10:37:58 oh, but delete does not Oct 19 10:38:59 swipe to delete -> tap "delete" and nothing appens Oct 19 10:39:45 yeah, that's related to the API change. it'll try to unset a proxy which it can't Oct 19 10:39:54 so it'll stop there :) Oct 19 10:39:57 ah ok :) Oct 19 12:41:30 okay webos will really kinda sorta begin showing its age in another 6 months or so. Oct 19 12:41:44 i've still got my tin foil hat on, though Oct 19 15:51:07 I should have stayed on Ubuntu 10.04...I think I hate this stupid launch bar Oct 19 15:51:26 you get used to it :) it's the app menus in the top bar that I will never live down Oct 19 15:51:50 I can't easily get to my running windows...I like my old one better :P Oct 19 15:52:33 switching windows did get worse true Oct 19 15:54:35 bah, ubuntu Oct 19 15:54:42 it's a bit surprising how Unity is pretty much worse in every way than gnome 2... I mean I did get used to it and sure it's completely usable... but I don't see any improvement over the old one and so many annoying things Oct 19 15:55:06 ubuntu or not, it's gnome really that's the trouble :) Oct 19 15:55:15 gnome 3 is just as bad as unity Oct 19 15:56:36 also ubuntu has always been a pretty nice way for debian fans to use a well-maintained debian distribution with frequent updates :) Oct 19 16:14:07 llama Oct 19 16:15:40 Lazar_Dobrescu: I've thought of using Debian, but I'm lazy and lack time Oct 19 16:15:59 sugardave there IS a solution! Oct 19 16:16:00 windows. Oct 19 16:16:27 um, I have those, too....it's too flimsy Oct 19 16:16:47 the double paned energy efficient ones? Oct 19 16:25:18 having to go to class == best damn excuse for skipping a meeting Oct 19 16:26:29 you are full of those damned things Oct 19 16:26:55 what do i want for christmas? more excuses Oct 19 16:27:05 done. Oct 19 16:27:18 * halfhalo wants monies for vegas for xmas Oct 19 16:29:24 i want all kinds of excuses. i want exclusive excuses Oct 19 16:29:50 those are extra Oct 19 16:29:57 someone should make an excuse app, titled "this app is just an excuse for an app" Oct 19 16:30:14 LIke all of the guides in the HP market? Oct 19 16:30:21 and in it, contains a list of all the excuses of why it's not really an app Oct 19 16:31:55 how is everyone's morning? Oct 19 16:36:04 hmm, however 11.04 appears to have somehow repaired my broken laptop battery :| Oct 19 16:36:28 My linux laptop died Oct 19 16:36:34 the video card went kaput Oct 19 16:36:38 lame Oct 19 16:36:42 oh, halfhalo Oct 19 16:36:57 later I want to pick your brain for advice on my VPS setup Oct 19 16:37:09 sure Oct 19 16:37:33 someone give me a synonym for "bigger than large but not as big as huge" Oct 19 16:37:47 extra-large Oct 19 16:38:29 that's what i was thinking too. super important decision here Oct 19 16:40:39 sugardave: 11.04 or 11.10? Fixes batteries?? I'll try it later ;) Oct 19 16:41:18 I love the "scroll to top" gesture ;) Oct 19 16:42:48 in what? lol Oct 19 16:43:02 what has scroll to the top? Oct 19 16:47:48 Launcher, go to the bottom, then quicky flick from bottom to middle and then to bottom. Takes some practice, be sure to do it fast and in a single motion Oct 19 16:49:29 oh that. I've been doing that for ever haha Oct 19 16:49:43 do it in reverse to scroll to the top Oct 19 16:51:13 dealer wants to buy my car again.. leave me alone.. Oct 19 16:51:21 trade me straight up for a 2011 and i will Oct 19 16:53:18 dawm: my mom has been getting calls like that to Oct 19 16:56:05 brb, reboot Oct 19 16:57:11 chuqui: hey!! Oct 19 16:58:09 hey! Oct 19 16:59:05 PatrickC, they called me a month after i bought it Oct 19 16:59:09 now i get a letter in the mail Oct 19 16:59:14 wow Oct 19 16:59:20 gonna stop in on my way back from the shop tho, since its on the way Oct 19 16:59:27 nobody wants to buy my car :( Oct 19 16:59:32 my moms car is an '08 Grand Caravan and they have called a few times lol Oct 19 16:59:33 although i dont want them to :P Oct 19 16:59:35 car is worth more than i paid for it back in march Oct 19 16:59:58 its $20,700 now and i bought it for $19,500 Oct 19 17:00:21 sell Oct 19 17:00:31 i owe like $23k~ Oct 19 17:00:38 and what i want is like $38k Oct 19 17:00:42 wow Oct 19 17:00:44 if they want it bad enough they will make it work Oct 19 17:00:50 :P Oct 19 17:01:04 uh-huh... Oct 19 17:01:07 lol Oct 19 17:03:15 anyone in here on 3.0.4 and willing to test something? Oct 19 17:03:20 you get a free app out of it Oct 19 17:03:46 is the app worth it? Oct 19 17:03:58 its VoogleXL Oct 19 17:04:06 wtf is that Oct 19 17:04:15 Google Voice client for the tp Oct 19 17:04:22 its Voogle in Enyo Oct 19 17:04:28 who's voogle is that Oct 19 17:04:48 PatrickC: i'm on 3.0.4 Oct 19 17:05:08 dwc-: webOSWorld Oct 19 17:05:09 doubt you care if it's 32gb or 16gb? Oct 19 17:05:13 HattCzech_work: nope Oct 19 17:05:18 you have vooglexl yet? Oct 19 17:05:46 so it's voogle at the base? does it use some api that involves users sending their passwords to the author's server? Oct 19 17:05:57 no Oct 19 17:06:01 afaik Oct 19 17:06:28 i do not Oct 19 17:06:42 HattCzech_work: you want a promo? I need to check something Oct 19 17:06:47 sure Oct 19 17:06:50 pm me Oct 19 17:06:54 I'd test VoogleXL ~ Oct 19 17:07:31 Just don't steal all my sexy SMSes Oct 19 17:07:43 seretogis: hmm. give me a few. if it works with HattCzech_work I'll let you in on a secret :) Oct 19 17:07:52 :O Oct 19 17:07:56 oooh secrets Oct 19 17:08:06 * HattCzech_work is now worried :) Oct 19 17:08:25 it enables your TP's webcam. hope you're wearing pants! Oct 19 17:08:25 there must be some joke that PatrickC is about to play on me that i don't know about Oct 19 17:08:35 HattCzech_work: srsly.. no Oct 19 17:08:51 * HattCzech_work goes to get some pants Oct 19 17:09:06 is it weird that i'm at work and not wearing pants? Oct 19 17:09:12 haha Oct 19 17:09:12 hahaha Oct 19 17:09:13 no Oct 19 17:09:15 haha Oct 19 17:09:15 not al all Oct 19 17:09:22 only weird if you don't have an office of your own Oct 19 17:09:26 lol Oct 19 17:09:33 HattCzech_work: you have a PM :) Oct 19 17:09:54 HattCzech_work: lemme know if it works Oct 19 17:09:54 brb Oct 19 17:10:10 (and i do have pants on, in case the camera does come on) ;) Oct 19 17:13:07 HattCzech_work: you party pooper Oct 19 17:13:20 hahaha Oct 19 17:13:34 now I feel obligated to put pants on Oct 19 17:13:36 wait no I don't Oct 19 17:13:55 if i worked from home, pants would definitely be optional Oct 19 17:20:06 promo system doesn't look like it wants to work right now Oct 19 17:20:41 We don't have to wear pants, right? Because.. Oct 19 17:21:14 #webos : clothing optional Oct 19 17:21:44 Woo hoo! I'd jump up and down, but it hurts when my junk slaps my ankle Oct 19 17:22:00 you must have very short legs Oct 19 17:22:56 http://whysiriwhy.com/ Oct 19 17:28:17 seretogis: haha Oct 19 17:28:40 * seretogis bows. Oct 19 17:29:29 dawm: % like the first one haha Oct 19 17:29:44 %? Oct 19 17:29:49 I* Oct 19 17:30:42 I is no where near % Oct 19 17:31:03 it is on the pre Oct 19 17:31:09 they are the same key infact Oct 19 17:31:22 his name aint PatrickC|pre tho Oct 19 17:31:40 yeah well aint aint a word Oct 19 17:32:59 dawn: im on the pre3 lol Oct 19 17:33:01 dawm* Oct 19 17:33:10 f u Oct 19 17:33:14 haha Oct 19 17:33:35 is that a threat or a promise? Oct 19 17:35:20 sorry I'm on my pre 3, I meant to say %- 3$&3 & 3$21&3 "2 & =2";%-1 Oct 19 17:35:48 the pre3 is pretty slick Oct 19 17:37:10 yeah but unfortunately slow/laggy Oct 19 17:37:58 I'm still using my pre2 Oct 19 17:52:20 how do i get rid of last nights software update for the touchpad Oct 19 18:41:52 ProxySwitch app doesn't seem to work with 3.0.4 Oct 19 18:45:07 sugardave: are you aware of promo code issues in the app catalog? Oct 19 18:47:25 HattCzech_work: you're lucky that I'm aware that I am sugardave Oct 19 18:47:29 in other words, no Oct 19 18:47:37 just got back from the airport Oct 19 18:47:40 heheh, okay Oct 19 18:47:54 when i try to enter a promo code, it just does nothing Oct 19 18:48:11 the dialog to enter the code doesn't pop up and the app catalog thinks i'm still purchasing Oct 19 18:48:30 hmmm, when I get back on campfire I'll see if they know something Oct 19 18:49:37 cool, thanks Oct 19 18:51:51 mmm.... smores... Oct 19 18:52:41 mmm Oct 19 18:56:53 HattCzech_work: is this your own promo code (testing stuff) or one you are trying to redeem for an app? Oct 19 18:57:03 redeem Oct 19 18:57:14 but it's for any promo or app Oct 19 18:57:19 well, not sure about ANY Oct 19 18:57:22 but i tried it on a few Oct 19 18:57:25 k Oct 19 19:00:28 HattCzech_work: well, not getting a lot of traction here.....I guess go ahead and post a forum thread if you haven't already Oct 19 19:07:54 new newsletter with promo codes. Go go go! Oct 19 19:20:35 wednesday this week - keepin ya on your toes Oct 19 19:21:14 free apps Oct 19 19:23:14 i want news letter Oct 19 19:24:09 I got newsletter Oct 19 19:24:27 the apps are sweet sweet awesomeness Oct 19 19:24:50 not me :( Oct 19 19:25:07 fwd me it Oct 19 19:25:11 biocandy @ gmail.com Oct 19 19:25:19 I can't access it anymore Oct 19 19:25:39 how the he'll do you get the semi/colon on tp Oct 19 19:25:41 http://skit.ch/bhjx Oct 19 19:26:45 CTLAdvance, hit +=[] Oct 19 19:26:48 durr.. Oct 19 19:28:33 free apps time... are promo codes really broken on 3.0.4? Oct 19 19:29:00 worked for me Oct 19 19:29:13 no, worked for me Oct 19 19:29:27 worked for me Oct 19 19:30:05 worked here Oct 19 19:31:07 word book is nice Oct 19 19:31:11 dunno, I have 3.0.2 but someone else was saying their promos weren't working Oct 19 19:31:35 doesn't matter, the codes for the ones I don't have are already used up Oct 19 19:31:44 ... all of 25 minutes later Oct 19 19:33:58 booo, no free apps for me Oct 19 19:34:50 and why the F don't i get these e-mails with promos? still irritates me Oct 19 19:37:08 PatrickC_Away: i got the promo code to work on my other touchpad Oct 19 19:39:00 you probably unchecked the "send me promo emails" way back when Oct 19 19:39:04 http://pref.news.hpwebosnewsletters.com/palm/palm_prefctr.asp?c=us Oct 19 19:39:07 for the US subscription Oct 19 19:40:15 dwc-: thanks... i've tried that 3 times now, maybe it'll stick this time? Oct 19 19:40:45 dunno Oct 19 19:40:51 yeah, me neither :/ Oct 19 19:41:00 go into your palm profile and make sure you've got it set to allow promo emails too? Oct 19 19:41:03 I dunno Oct 19 19:41:09 I didn't subscribe, mine just showed up Oct 19 19:41:12 yeah, i can try that again as well... Oct 19 19:41:18 have a link for that one? Oct 19 19:41:25 Is there any Pre 2 users who have bought a Pre 3? And can tell me if its worth 200$ ? Oct 19 19:42:51 palm.com/profile? Oct 19 19:44:01 logged in, no settings for e-mails Oct 19 19:44:10 i see my two touchpads and pre2 Oct 19 19:45:03 hotdp: had a pre2 now have a pre3. worth it Oct 19 19:45:14 ok... I dunno Oct 19 19:45:57 display is great, faux gees is nice - had a WOR before. Oct 19 19:46:26 I'm not sure about the Pre2 but the Pre3 feels slow Oct 19 19:46:49 pre2 is much faster than pre- was Oct 19 19:59:54 hotdp, after hp fires the webos engineers and the updates stop everything will be not worth it Oct 19 20:03:59 heheh Oct 19 20:04:01 PuffTheMagic: you're making this chat depressing Oct 19 20:04:34 the state of the webos world is depressing Oct 19 20:05:48 very true indeed Oct 19 20:05:54 YAY for mismanagement! Oct 19 20:06:06 PuffTheMagic: indeed. :[ Oct 19 20:06:06 mis-management is probably the correct spelling Oct 19 20:11:20 who needs updates? Oct 19 20:11:30 you're still running 1.4.5 Oct 19 20:15:25 anyone else using a sprint pre2 and have the voice dial app always pop up on the first page after rebooting? Oct 19 20:15:33