**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Nov 02 02:59:57 2011 Nov 02 03:06:29 * EricBlade waves Nov 02 04:05:21 * EricBlade scrapes together a Subsonic client. weeee Nov 02 04:06:11 * halfhalo has tmo sim working in vzw pre3 Nov 02 04:06:35 halfhalo: where'd you get the vzw pre3 unlock from? Nov 02 04:06:50 Didn't. Nov 02 04:07:13 Just ordered a prepaid sim, popped it in, and it worked just fine, unlike ATT Nov 02 04:07:16 I thought it was locked to cdma in the states, and vodafone elsewhere Nov 02 04:08:29 Nope. It just doesn't like att apparently. I did have to switch it from global mode to gsm to get rid of if defaulting to vzw as the network, but that was it Nov 02 04:10:32 verizon tends to be awesome like that sometimes Nov 02 04:10:48 actually, I'm betting I can go through first use with the sim and just use that... Nov 02 04:11:10 halfhalo, im betting if you were an actuall vzw customer they would unlock it Nov 02 04:11:38 except when i stuck the att sim in it did not ask for an unlock code, it just didn't see it at all. Nov 02 04:13:59 I wouldn't bet that anyone you can talk to at VZW knows what a pre3 is or why it would need unlocking :P Nov 02 04:15:01 ^^that Nov 02 04:15:12 dwc-, ive called them on several occasions about mine, specifically it was loosing its authorization key, they fixed it no prob, i should ask for a unlock code :) Nov 02 04:15:24 so far edge on it doesn't seem _that_ bad... Nov 02 04:15:47 I haven't found t-mobile edge to be all that terrible... Nov 02 04:15:55 certainly not 3g Nov 02 04:16:31 its got full signal at my house where my att one gets two bars, which is nice for calls. Nov 02 04:16:35 if I made calls, that is. Nov 02 04:18:38 I should find a 4g phone to use with the sim.... since It has the fast fake-g's Nov 02 04:25:26 yea, att and tmo don't have strong points in the same places Nov 02 04:26:03 at&t used to cover my train commute @70mph Nov 02 04:26:10 tmobile had a couple of dead spots Nov 02 04:27:08 * DougReeder waves hello Nov 02 08:39:39 helloo Nov 02 08:51:44 is your webos wasting your flash life time? after sysctl -w vm.block_dump=1 and watch dmesg, i can see it keep showing [ 6342.546667] kjournald(840): WRITE block 544664 on dm-0 (8 sectors). this is veer webos 2.1.2 Nov 02 10:27:55 http://demo.fremnet.net/bom/ - Once I've sorted all the backend out, I'm going to port this to my touchpad as a Exhibition mode app Nov 02 10:30:14 (yeh I know the javascript on the page is hacky but I'll re-write it during the port) Nov 02 10:32:35 Freman: sweet - I'll use that. Nov 02 10:32:46 thought it a bit more useful than a clock :d Nov 02 10:33:23 backend caches up to 2 hours worth of radar, I havn't worked out how to do it all with nodejs so I'll just host it :D Nov 02 10:33:42 Freman: I use http://www.radocaj.com/TheBom/ on the laptop as well Nov 02 10:34:19 radar is the most important thing to me (I cycle to the train station and back) Nov 02 12:13:31 if I store something in localstorage in a regular cardview, will it be available in exhibition mode? Nov 02 13:15:55 any trick to get mschapv2 for veer? Nov 02 13:56:05 hmm, was webosroundup pre lottery scam? I didnt get any mail about lotery winner or so Nov 02 14:47:17 Hey I'm getting some weird logs when I run webos doctor and I was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction with them Nov 02 15:42:23 hello everybody Nov 02 15:45:06 hi Nov 02 16:08:40 morning, chuqui... how's your day so far? Nov 02 16:09:24 hey, top of the morning! Nov 02 16:10:40 HattCzech_work: so far, my badge worked, and my email works. that's a good start. Nov 02 16:10:54 indeed. an excellent start Nov 02 16:12:05 my week has been terrible, until yesterday. in MA, we still have no power. so my parents had free points at foxwoods and mohegan, we got a massive discount on a suite for 2 nights in CT. so that's where i am Nov 02 16:13:04 I pretty much need to stop reading rumor sites Nov 02 16:13:10 it's just making me sad Nov 02 16:13:23 what's the new rumor this week? :) Nov 02 16:14:03 nothing really, twtomcat posted analyst making stuff up about how webOS will live on as a printer OS Nov 02 16:14:30 http://www.itworld.com/mobile-wireless/218331/webos-prognosis-life-support Nov 02 16:14:37 (on twitter) Nov 02 16:17:01 fun stuff Nov 02 16:17:20 as long as chuqui's badge still works, things are good Nov 02 16:17:23 heheh Nov 02 16:17:30 heh Nov 02 16:17:35 HattCzech_work: definitely better than the alternatives Nov 02 16:17:41 absolutely Nov 02 16:18:09 any info on 3.0.5 or 3.0.6? :) Nov 02 16:18:11 In Chuqi We Trust Nov 02 16:18:25 (ICWT) Nov 02 16:28:54 so, besides the bradley video, has there been any positive webos news in the last few days that i may have missed? Nov 02 16:29:18 new Pivot out? oh, right no. Nov 02 16:37:05 the bradley video that doesn't say anything? Nov 02 16:37:15 other than "that rumor? just a rumor" Nov 02 16:50:42 rwatkins: which one? october or november?... oh, right Nov 02 16:51:05 anybody here have experience with SlidingPanes? Nov 02 16:52:50 HattCzech_work: the one mentioning my app would be nice: http://www.webosroundup.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/p4_usen_30.jpg Nov 02 16:57:28 Any thoughts? https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=109&t=18883 Nov 02 17:05:58 when I've seen blurry content in my sliding panes, its actually been the scroller in the view, not the view itself. Nov 02 17:14:22 @rwatkins in my case there are elements outside the scroller that are also blurry Nov 02 17:14:53 when I change the panes width from 100% to %101 its becomes unblurred Nov 02 17:15:02 its something to do with widths Nov 02 17:24:43 https://kindle.amazon.com/post/2Y50MEEEOUYU5 Nov 02 17:24:48 whoops Nov 02 18:50:40 * EricBlade yawns Nov 02 19:45:43 apphack for the week is up Nov 02 19:46:05 http://developer.palm.com/blog/2011/11/app-hack-multitouch-2-8-nov/ Nov 02 20:42:28 I just added multi-touch support to NME, for the app hack Nov 02 20:42:36 I'll try and post a beta release later today, so its easy to use Nov 02 21:08:29 * halfhalo yawns Nov 02 21:33:26 $99 veers on/fulfilled by amazon Nov 02 21:34:14 gsm pixi+ for $70, cheaper than the cdma ones Nov 02 21:34:38 those are the things, amazon felt I might be interested in Nov 02 22:31:12 people are giving me weird looks due to my phones again... Nov 02 22:34:15 just start staring at them... maybe with a "limp eye" look Nov 02 22:39:13 try carrying less of them at once Nov 02 23:01:02 dwc-: psh. Nov 02 23:31:32 hate to say it.. but my sprintified pre2 is being stupid, even after being redoctored.. i think its dying.. samsung galaxy II or iphone 4s.. decisions.. Nov 02 23:34:21 win a touchpad Nov 02 23:34:22 http://slickdeals.net/giveaway/1266 Nov 02 23:40:45 Squee. Now for a webos version :x http://www.geekgirldiva.com/2011/11/qmx-just-released-new-warehouse-13.html Nov 02 23:41:05 I think the chances of winning a TouchPad in the app hack is a lot higher than slick deals ;) Nov 02 23:50:03 I didn't do an app hack, so I think slickdeals is my better bet ;) Nov 02 23:50:51 The one for this week is multi-touch Nov 02 23:51:02 Which works in NME, too Nov 02 23:51:10 (which might be nice for something visual, or with physics, etc) Nov 03 02:07:27 Anyone see the slate 2 Nov 03 02:12:26 hewball, getting headway. Palm's patch removes a couple of files it probably shouldn't, but now I'm getting undefined reference's, although it should afaik Nov 03 02:12:30 shouldnt* Nov 03 02:21:20 wrea: its taking some effort then :( Nov 03 02:26:39 Yeah Nov 03 02:28:26 hewball, should be worth it though. I guess if you enable openssl support it'll enable streaming to Airport, which could be interesting Nov 03 02:28:55 oh that would be awsome, i have 2 of those Nov 03 02:31:23 hewball, I guess since the udev libraries arent on there, on could make a optware package with them and then that'd allow the udev module to run Nov 03 02:32:35 that would be cool Nov 03 02:33:45 its on my todo list, right after getting pulse compiled fully :P Nov 03 02:51:23 someone posted spam in https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewforum.php?f=107 Nov 03 02:57:21 Oh great, AI spam. Not even real human spam. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Nov 03 02:59:59 2011