**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Nov 04 02:59:57 2011 Nov 04 03:09:26 sugardave, I got my app to launch in dock and app mode thanks to your stub :D Nov 04 03:09:39 question, "onWindowParamsChange" handling window unloads... Nov 04 03:10:18 oh wait, I"m an idiot and missed that, nevermind :D Nov 04 03:12:22 no, wait, I don't understand Nov 04 03:12:59 http://pastebin.com/EpbfKjCM is what I have, it launches both window modes just fine Nov 04 03:15:18 are you making an exhibition mode app? Nov 04 03:15:27 trying very hard Nov 04 03:16:05 there should be an example with the SDK Nov 04 03:16:13 which doesn't work Nov 04 03:21:52 Freman: https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=109&t=17192 Nov 04 03:28:54 akanster, that looks very similar to the busted one I built just now Nov 04 03:28:59 but I'll try it again Nov 04 03:29:10 thankfully I should be able to copy/paste a great chunk of that Nov 04 03:29:47 Freman: my thing I dredged up from some example for headless apps...the dockmode check I do in the actual kind I load up from the index.html. In THAT controller kind, I have an applicationEvents object where I listen for onWindowParamsChanged and then my "choose what to do" logic is in there Nov 04 03:30:19 I can't paste much more example, secret project :P Nov 04 03:31:57 that's ok, I appreciate what you've given me Nov 04 03:32:30 a little more like this sugardave : http://www.webos101.com/Multi-Card_Applications Nov 04 03:33:04 yep yep Nov 04 03:35:36 anybody here good with using media queries, specifically orientation layout changes being kicked off by one? Nov 04 03:36:58 adjusting display based on orientation, not width? Nov 04 03:40:03 rwatkins: yeah Nov 04 03:40:17 @media all and (orientation: landscape) { Nov 04 03:40:20 for instance Nov 04 03:41:24 I'm thinking this doesn't work in webOS Nov 04 03:41:50 ah, have not tried in webOS - used max-width and min-width instead Nov 04 03:43:04 cool...I'm just going to re-map these to a different selector, I think Nov 04 03:43:34 ex http://pastebin.com/g3c9aGyL Nov 04 03:43:47 i know this is off topic, but has anyone ported webos over to a non-palm device? Nov 04 03:43:48 but i guess you could detect orientation change, put a class on the body tag and key off that Nov 04 03:44:22 fdge_: I've seen things youwouldn't believe ;) Nov 04 03:44:29 do share Nov 04 03:44:50 attack ships on fire off the shoulder of orion? Nov 04 03:45:03 hah Nov 04 03:45:05 c-beams gitter in the dar near the tanhauser gate? Nov 04 03:45:06 love that movie Nov 04 03:45:10 dark Nov 04 03:45:23 i'd love to see webos on an iPhone :3 Nov 04 03:46:04 fdge_: If I could share, I would...but I can't, so I won't ;) Nov 04 03:46:06 great movie. havent seen it in a few years actually Nov 04 03:46:23 rwatkins: so that max-width thing does work in webOS? Nov 04 03:46:29 yes Nov 04 03:46:43 I already use the "add a class to the body" method on orientation change for the main part of the app Nov 04 03:46:44 sugardave: lol. is it possible though? Nov 04 03:46:46 cool Nov 04 03:46:53 fdge_: anything is possible :) Nov 04 03:47:16 i did that "add class to body" thing a bit - causes luna to crash in some cases Nov 04 03:47:26 heh :3 Nov 04 03:47:27 yeah, I've noticed that Nov 04 03:47:45 so far, hasn't happened in some weeks Nov 04 03:48:07 havent played with it much since 3.0.2 though Nov 04 03:48:21 i'm thinking of switching to an iphone since sprint is being gay and have decided not to bring new webos devices. but i'll miss the wonderful interface of webos Nov 04 03:48:58 ultimately abandoned the body class thing for applyStyle directly on a div in the app. doesnt appear to crash now, but applyStyle seems *dog* slow on 2.2.3 Nov 04 03:50:26 fdge_: its a beautiful house to live in, until you realize its actually a jail. Nov 04 03:54:30 not when a 50 year old mother can get used to a smart phone in less than 20 minutes :3 Nov 04 03:55:00 didnt take long for her to get used to webos at all Nov 04 03:55:42 ios is the jail in that analogy Nov 04 03:56:53 oh hehehe Nov 04 03:57:15 does anyone know if the commsboard in the veer can be replaced with a sprint pre board? Nov 04 03:57:32 the veer is pretty much a sealed box Nov 04 03:57:43 lame Nov 04 03:58:15 it's the only webos phone that webos-internals bricked Nov 04 03:59:00 hehe i thought webos phones were unbrickable (if thats a term) with doctor Nov 04 03:59:29 not the veer Nov 04 04:00:04 dont think i'd want it then Nov 04 04:00:10 yea Nov 04 04:00:14 pre3 should be better Nov 04 04:01:29 im looking for a pre2 but no one seems to be selling Nov 04 04:01:42 if you can get one, pre3 is pretty Nov 04 04:02:00 hows the processor Nov 04 04:02:55 the pre is barely able to keep up to my needs now a days Nov 04 04:03:09 it's way peppier Nov 04 04:04:38 awesome Nov 04 04:04:46 now to find me one Nov 04 04:06:02 holy crap it works Nov 04 04:06:20 for a while there it was crashing so hard the emulator would reboot Nov 04 04:07:19 * Freman sends it to the touchpad to see what happens... Nov 04 04:07:19 pre, pre+, pre2 are the only unbrickable webOS devices Nov 04 04:07:46 no webOS device has been bricked by homebrew though. I had to work pretty hard to brick the Veer, doing stuff that no normal homebrew user would ever go near. Nov 04 04:08:05 hmmm doesn't work :( Nov 04 04:08:11 works on the emulator but not irl Nov 04 04:15:31 rwhitby: what did you do? overclock till frying point? lol Nov 04 04:20:18 experimenting with TTS and corrupted the A6 charging/coil controller firmware Nov 04 04:20:55 ok, either my touchpad can't resolve the new domain... or jquery ajax doesn't work on it (while it does work on the emulator) Nov 04 04:21:53 jquery ajax works Nov 04 04:22:55 rofl Nov 04 04:23:11 and it resolves Nov 04 04:23:22 so... why no requests show up in http logs? :( Nov 04 04:23:27 didnt know you can go that far Nov 04 04:24:08 where do apps keep their logs (like palm-log accesses), I can cat that from xterm Nov 04 04:24:44 Freman: /var/log/messages Nov 04 04:24:45 uh, my app download totals on the portal just reset to zero? Nov 04 04:26:46 lol, fingercount 1400 Nov 04 04:27:37 holey crap pulseaudio is filling my logs with "core-error.c" :( Nov 04 04:27:45 Freman: are you aware of Lumberjack ? Nov 04 04:28:30 nope Nov 04 04:29:17 it is awesome Nov 04 04:29:43 well .. hope the portal fixes itself by morning. slightly unnerving to see my app download totals .. gone. Nov 04 04:29:59 hmmm can't find any logs from my app in /var/log/messages Nov 04 04:30:17 rwatkins: I can't find anyone around, but I put a message in campfire about it Nov 04 04:30:23 because I have squelching? Nov 04 04:30:37 sugardave: thx, assume it fixes itself, if not will follow. thx Nov 04 04:30:38 rwatkins: one of my apps (SuperTux) is 0 too Nov 04 04:30:47 rwatkins: PHD is still at the correct count Nov 04 04:31:12 (SuperTux was actually done by egaudet, but is on the same account as PHD) Nov 04 04:31:19 free or paid? Nov 04 04:33:12 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/46756/weatherwatch.png - runs real nice in the emulator Nov 04 04:33:52 sweet, you got it working? Nov 04 04:34:16 in the emulator yes, just not on the actual touchpad, it isn't talking to the httpd Nov 04 04:34:23 also, run Queensland, run! Nov 04 04:35:19 installing lumberjack Nov 04 04:35:39 do I need to remove the quiet logging patch to get logs from my app on the touchpad? Nov 04 04:40:02 hmmm clearly I need more logging Nov 04 04:44:26 I'm a lumberjack and I'm okay Nov 04 04:44:33 I work all night and I sleep all day Nov 04 04:45:45 Freman: doing a weather app form BOM data? Nov 04 04:47:12 yep, which is why it won't be released :D Nov 04 04:47:20 tho, I'm not scraping their data Nov 04 04:47:30 this is all publicly accessable from the ftp or via rss Nov 04 04:48:26 most interested in having radar and warnings for storm season Nov 04 04:59:33 ok, so added new version added bunch of logging... nothing is logging... do I need to emergency file wipe? Nov 04 04:59:39 filecache Nov 04 05:00:19 Freman: im interested Nov 04 05:00:51 you can't use your govt agency's weather data? Nov 04 05:01:26 sure can for a sum of money Nov 04 05:02:33 ... why won't you run! you run in the emulator :( Nov 04 05:03:13 Darkmagister: FYI, the code in Hello! is licensed GPLv2 Nov 04 05:03:21 Freeman Realtime AWS and Synoptic Observations and Forecasts/Warnings are free Nov 04 05:04:18 sum of money? really? that's kinda lame Nov 04 05:04:37 one thing the US govt gets right (when they aren't claiming it's national security related) Nov 04 05:04:40 http://www.nws.noaa.gov/disclaimer.php Nov 04 05:04:54 Thank you for your enquiry. As per our copyright statement the information provided on our website is for personal use only. We do not permit people, businesses or companies to scrape our website to develop tools for other platforms. Nov 04 05:05:13 Freman: thats crazy really Nov 04 05:05:53 dwc-: I bet any mapping data is not public domain Nov 04 05:06:22 rwatkins-Zzz: SuperTux is free, PHD is paid. Nov 04 05:06:37 US topological maps are public domain, iirc (USGS) Nov 04 05:08:19 probably hi-res stuff starts to get into "security" Nov 04 05:08:49 rwhitby thanks for the info however gpl is the only licence that i use Nov 04 05:08:57 so no problem Nov 04 05:09:10 freman: "Secondary Distribution of Bureau of Meteorology Information" sounds a little less restrictive than "personal use only" Nov 04 05:09:13 http://www.bom.gov.au/other/copyright.shtml Nov 04 05:09:53 some of the stuff looks to be available under one of the creative commons Nov 04 05:10:11 I'd be grey area all over, cos I cache and re-compress their images/data where possible Nov 04 05:10:30 grey is such a lovely color Nov 04 05:11:06 looks like you can use the sat imagery with attribution too Nov 04 05:11:20 maybe I'll send them to the web port when I've got the damn exhibition port working Nov 04 05:11:24 I read "Secondary Distribution of Bureau of Meteorology Information" as allowing use in a webOS app Nov 04 05:11:32 (maybe I'll just load the web port with an iframe in exhibition mode lol) Nov 04 05:12:07 lumberjack does rock btw Nov 04 05:13:00 weather app from BOM data is 1 of 2 apps i miss from the iphone Nov 04 05:15:32 has anyone ever found that when they upload an app to their device it doesn't always update? Nov 04 05:15:35 or is that just me? Nov 04 05:15:47 Freman: lots of stuff is cached Nov 04 05:15:57 view html for example, unless you change the version Nov 04 05:16:14 I uninstalled the whole app and tried again Nov 04 05:16:21 I'll bump the version I guess Nov 04 05:16:29 uninstall and reboot works Nov 04 05:16:34 or bump version Nov 04 05:16:45 or restart Luna Nov 04 05:17:22 I think someone found a luna call to clear the caches? Nov 04 05:19:33 yeah, didn't work for view html for me Nov 04 05:19:51 ok, totally frustrated, logs at onload, and logs "got past the warnings and radar" but doesn't log any of the log messages from radar (emulator does) Nov 04 05:24:13 http://pastebin.com/3HHQbmPf the logs in the top part are shown, but not in the Radar call :( Nov 04 05:31:17 it might not be logging it, but I can SEE it get as far as line 19 because it shows the please wait overlays Nov 04 05:39:28 palm-run [appdir], is USUALLY better at giving you a refreshed copy Nov 04 05:46:15 yay! getting somewhere Nov 04 05:46:19 but still not... Nov 04 05:46:23 added Nov 04 05:46:34 error: function(jqXHR, textStatus, errorThrown) {enyo.log("Update request error - " + textStatus + " - " + errorThrown);} Nov 04 05:46:50 and in my log I get "Update request error - error - " Nov 04 05:47:10 so, I'm getting some random error that contains no useful information :( Nov 04 05:50:35 try an Enyo one? enyo.xhrGet({url: theUrl, load: functionToRunOnResponse}); gets 2 (I think) args, response and request Nov 04 05:53:07 I'll have to try when I get home - it's time to leave (or I'll miss my train) Nov 04 05:53:19 only thing I can think of is it has double // Nov 04 05:53:23 domain.com//file.php Nov 04 05:55:35 does the enyo one auto decode... err no ok... Nov 04 05:55:52 autodecode what? Nov 04 05:56:01 json Nov 04 05:56:12 not that one, you can eval it Nov 04 05:56:28 if you use a WebService kind, it defaults to parsing json Nov 04 07:56:44 wtf?!? it works here Nov 04 07:56:51 it didn't work at work Nov 04 07:57:02 might have to go punch some ... person in the arm Nov 04 07:59:10 damn, don't have the palm sdk on my box here.... Nov 04 08:08:21 my touchpad is "autogcd"ing Nov 04 08:15:19 hi, is it possible to connet rabbitmq server through node.js on webOS 2.x? Nov 04 08:24:13 is there anyway to find out what it is that's causing the "autogc'd"? Nov 04 08:26:22 I'm pretty sure it's my app, but I don't know where it's leaking - it ran for days in chrome Nov 04 08:29:11 and why subscribe:true set but when sub.get().result = {some:"what"} called, told me"service is not running" Nov 04 08:33:33 hi Nov 04 08:34:23 hello Nov 04 09:15:40 right Nov 04 09:15:46 so now I have my app working Nov 04 09:16:08 I need to work out how to pause it when exhibition mode is exited, and resume when exhibition mode is re-entered Nov 04 09:23:00 so what would be a reasonable amount of memory for a web app to use... Nov 04 09:24:03 there's 16 512x512 png's in the radar loop... Nov 04 09:41:42 make handlers for onWindowActivated & onWindowDeactivated Nov 04 09:47:48 please have somebody bing maps ipk ? Nov 04 10:01:17 fuck off hp with your maps Nov 04 10:02:19 I would try google maps through the browser and I can't even go to google maps in the web browser. It automatically opens bing maps from my phone. Nov 04 12:18:51 what they have done with maps :((( I can't find streets in my city :( Nov 04 12:26:13 sure that you still exists? Nov 04 12:26:22 and that you are not a fragment of someones imagination? Nov 04 12:27:02 i'm thinking about it, maybe i'm only imagination of google Nov 04 12:27:07 and on google maps too Nov 04 12:27:08 :) Nov 04 12:27:48 i;m thinking bout creating an own google maps application Nov 04 12:28:02 google have javascript api Nov 04 12:34:24 thanks akanster Nov 04 12:49:13 so i believe it is safe to assume that enyo is now on all webos devices Nov 04 12:56:56 panel: I'd pay for that. I find Bing is fucking useless (and I can't use it with Latitude either) Nov 04 12:58:02 there are bfg maps, but searching is not working for me Nov 04 13:09:03 how are people suprised that 2.2.3 is the end of the line? Nov 04 13:12:21 there is no more line.... just an idea and some cool software Nov 04 13:12:36 *extremely cool Nov 04 13:13:13 is webos 2.2.3 available on pre2 ? Nov 04 13:13:36 why would there be any updates to phones? Nov 04 13:13:59 going thru teh carrier approval process is a huge amount of pain Nov 04 13:14:21 all for .. a hardware line thats officially dead? Nov 04 13:14:40 *on life support Nov 04 13:14:47 no, the hardware is dead Nov 04 13:15:04 oh yes that is correct Nov 04 14:16:10 * dwc- could use a 2.2.3 on the unlocked developer pre2 Nov 04 14:42:57 yeah, its crazy Nov 04 14:43:03 i gave my pre2 awa Nov 04 14:43:05 away** Nov 04 14:43:29 I keep checking to see if theyre ever goign to release an update Nov 04 14:43:30 I'm about to as well Nov 04 14:43:30 but.. Nov 04 14:43:39 I know it's over. Nov 04 14:43:49 ^ sadly +1 to that Nov 04 14:43:53 It's okay, my WP7 gets over a day of battery life Nov 04 14:44:06 and visual studio is a haven Nov 04 14:44:25 Xcode here Nov 04 14:44:40 I couldn't get my head around the WP7 browser Nov 04 14:44:54 lol Nov 04 14:45:13 lack for a lot of basic CSS3 support Nov 04 14:45:19 as a web designer, can not want Nov 04 14:45:28 well, to be fair, CSS3 suppotr on webos was shoddy from the beginning Nov 04 14:45:32 agreed Nov 04 14:45:32 support* Nov 04 14:45:42 at least webOS did border-radius though Nov 04 14:45:49 yeah Nov 04 14:45:56 no shadows tho :P Nov 04 14:46:04 yeah that always bothered me Nov 04 14:46:12 I dunno, I get by with the css3 support in webos Nov 04 14:46:19 and --- webos --- you can't easily resize an image Nov 04 14:46:25 true Nov 04 14:46:33 that pissed me off, big time Nov 04 14:46:42 I went to kerris like WTF MAN Nov 04 14:46:43 at a webos connect Nov 04 14:46:45 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/46756/weatherwatch.png - I'm no designer but that's pretty :D Nov 04 14:47:06 two round squares Nov 04 14:47:07 :P Nov 04 14:47:22 yep, simple and functional - just the way I like it :D Nov 04 14:47:34 Yeah, iOS has 100x better css3 support than webos Nov 04 14:47:39 which has always pissed me off Nov 04 14:47:59 and mojo was the worst framework of life Nov 04 14:48:20 iOS csots me $inf more to develop and homebrew on thatn webOS and that pisses me off more than missing css3 support Nov 04 14:48:32 and I thought phonegap was a savior, until I realized their dropdown list was completely f***ed up Nov 04 14:48:46 and 100x more engineers Nov 04 14:48:49 webos was too hacky Nov 04 14:48:51 wow, I can't type tonight lol Nov 04 14:49:04 i loooove webos as an os. but I didn't like it as a development platform Nov 04 14:49:25 it's the prettiest thing in the world Nov 04 14:49:37 my girlfriend still grabs my phone and tries to swipe up Nov 04 14:49:57 I dunno, I didn't much mind deving for iOS I did mind having to buy a mac and pay $99/yr for the pleasure (when I looked phonegap apps were getting rejected more than accepted) Nov 04 14:50:02 and by doing so --- hits the home button :P Nov 04 14:52:27 I was working on my touchapd and my laptop side by side earlier - they're both similar sizes... and in the folio case they were both similar angles... I found myself doing all sorts of gestures on the laptop :( Nov 04 15:01:01 I have, on occasion, tried to tap on Growl notifications on my MBP's screen Nov 04 15:01:06 If you are writing native C/C++, webOS is really nice to work with compared to other platforms Nov 04 15:01:09 embarrassing Nov 04 15:01:09 especially Android Nov 04 15:01:21 novaterm, straightforward SDL Nov 04 15:01:37 It's also very easy to create an HTML/JS/CSS application ... no phonegap required Nov 04 15:01:59 Sometimes, webOS development is communicated to equal Mojo development, or Enyo development Nov 04 15:02:06 which I wish was not the case Nov 04 15:04:21 Well, what I've been building is jquery wrapped in enyo for some convenience - now that I worked out all my issues appeared to have been network based :D Nov 04 15:08:50 Ugh, I hate that :) Nov 04 15:10:36 iOS development also often means the UIKit or Cocoa Touch framework but thats not always the case either Nov 04 15:10:47 but its the default. like Enyo or Mojo. Nov 04 15:35:58 if someone wants http://forums.precentral.net/webos-development/306082-gift-simple-gmaps-you.html Nov 04 15:41:37 Someone in another channel said WebOS was officially killed by HP.. I see no such announcements anywhere. Nov 04 15:41:43 I suspect FUD Nov 04 15:44:14 People are always trying to come up with news Nov 04 15:52:34 I figured it was nonsense, honestly though mainly because it wasn't all over the gadget blogs. Nov 04 15:52:46 HP killing WebOS in itself would not be a surprise to me... Nov 04 16:06:52 Well, I think its too soon to say Nov 04 16:07:02 webOS 3.0.4 was *just* released, after all Nov 04 16:09:23 IGNTNUNLMTD: growl notifications *are* interactive, if the app specifies what the actions are Nov 04 16:10:21 And hints of 3.0.5 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Nov 04 16:14:09 2011 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Nov 04 16:18:14 2011 Nov 04 16:19:22 http://ookaboo.com/o/pictures/picture.large/26078124/Incredible_Control_Panel_Of_IBM_System36 Nov 04 16:19:40 too many lights! Nov 04 16:23:34 * halfhalo yawns Nov 04 16:25:20 * fxspec06 sleeps Nov 04 16:25:54 * akanster stabs Nov 04 16:29:40 That reminds me of the control panel in the Pixar short, "Lifted" Nov 04 16:33:54 ReadOnTouch is just picking off every feature he noticed Paper Mache has. ugh Nov 04 16:34:40 imitation is the best form of flattery? Nov 04 16:34:51 heh, his Veer screens are taken up by toolbars Nov 04 16:35:53 like some tweets "yea, PaperMache has power scroll" and like 15 minutes later he tweets "so, how do you do power scroll in Enyo?" Nov 04 16:36:14 ah well Nov 04 16:38:04 feel honored :) Nov 04 16:38:42 ya, though hes getting paid for his work. picked the free (though I feel worse) API. Nov 04 16:39:12 maybe I'll swipe the "share on Google+" feature back. :) Nov 04 16:40:06 heh, the screenshots on 2.1 have the same toolbar rendering issue I have. Nov 04 16:40:23 haha **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Nov 04 17:02:03 2011 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Nov 04 17:03:22 2011 Nov 04 17:03:48 http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/04/hp-pre-3-death-not-exaggerated-fcc-autopsy-reveals-verizon-life/ Nov 04 17:04:11 yup. Nov 04 17:04:39 swapped the backs between my two pre3's since the vzw one had no branding while the att one did. Nov 04 17:05:24 so what exactly happened? I'm still confused as to how they were sold Nov 04 17:06:35 They were only sold to palm/hp employees and iirc in the sunnyvale palm store. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Nov 04 17:15:12 2011 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Nov 04 17:24:14 2011 Nov 04 17:28:23 hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Nov 04 17:29:21 well thats a nice suprise Nov 04 17:30:40 prob loaner returns they had to get back by Oct 31st Nov 04 17:31:48 i kept mine, so that possibly counts as a coupon.. ? not sure if i would purchase a 2nd Nov 04 17:32:20 a second comes in very handy when there are early access os releases Nov 04 17:32:37 mmm yes i would agree. good point Nov 04 17:43:04 everyone should have at least one touchpad per hand Nov 04 17:45:44 best buy, tiger direct, dev devices. looks like the parts chain clearing finally finished. Nov 04 17:54:17 11/11/11 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_Tufnel#Nigel_Tufnel_Day Nov 04 17:55:42 and Skyrim comes out...coincidence? Nov 04 17:55:54 so Nov 04 17:55:59 i cant click that link on the dev. device Nov 04 17:56:05 it doesnt do -anything- Nov 04 18:17:03 i love it when a sweet feature is a single line of css - 'text-align: justify' Nov 04 18:27:49 hello Nov 04 18:48:47 Good news about coupon code? Nov 04 19:29:45 free apps news letter out Nov 04 19:42:40 Apps. Glorious apps! Nov 04 20:11:30 i whant to use only a palm-header-page with palm-dark theme ... so i add palm-dark on the html in the class but nothing append .... this.controller.document.body.className += "palm-dark"; i also tried to add palm-dark to all the app but nothing happend :( Nov 04 20:15:39 Crap, why am I never getting these emails? :( Nov 04 20:16:27 Ah, US only :( Nov 04 20:17:14 And, developer device purchase plan is open again for now https://developer.palm.com/content/resources/develop/developer_device_program.html Nov 04 20:17:59 got the email, but was at lunch Nov 04 20:22:31 So yeah, up to 2 dev devices per dev account Nov 04 20:22:42 I don't need any, so I'll bow out Nov 04 20:24:37 I need more so i can build a fort out of them Nov 04 20:25:20 dominos Nov 04 20:25:20 * Shadyman gasps Nov 04 20:25:25 Me first!@ Nov 04 20:25:41 Use them for a crazy art project and display solid colors on them in a large matrix to show animation Nov 04 20:40:13 How do I ssh into webOS 3.0? I can't seem to find anything? Nov 04 20:40:35 thomaschaaf: plug it in by usb and run novaterm? Nov 04 20:40:55 install preware, install ssh from there Nov 04 20:41:04 novaterm from quick install is garbage am I doing it wrong? Nov 04 20:41:13 ~ssh Nov 04 20:41:14 yay for command line access out of the box Nov 04 20:41:21 http://livingsocial.com/deals/157451 Nov 04 20:41:32 i am on windows it may be different? Nov 04 20:41:49 hmm Nov 04 20:41:53 ~ssh is http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:OpenSSH Nov 04 20:41:54 Yeah I thought you hasd to have preware + ssh installed Nov 04 20:41:57 never tried on windows Nov 04 20:41:58 Not OOB Nov 04 20:42:01 ~ssh Nov 04 20:42:07 oh, the bot isn't here Nov 04 20:42:08 I'll just do that then :) Nov 04 20:42:13 If you're on Windows, use putty or whatever Nov 04 20:42:20 anyone here excited for webOS 3.0 support in reviewtomail? Nov 04 20:42:27 the bot isnt here because it was abused Nov 04 20:42:30 what's a reviewtomail? Nov 04 20:42:57 its a service I created I send you a daily digest of all the new reviews for your apps Nov 04 20:42:58 * haeffb blames oilsworkn for the bot not being here Nov 04 20:43:24 on windows its like, start+run "novacom open tty://" Nov 04 20:43:26 thomaschaaf: It will be very useful for when Universe supports 3.0 :) Nov 04 20:44:00 oilsworkn: but I need full on ssh Nov 04 20:44:07 so I can do stuff like vim etc Nov 04 20:44:11 then install it Nov 04 20:44:31 its in preware Nov 04 20:44:52 I am :) Nov 04 20:44:56 install it, then use novacom to move your autorized_keys file Nov 04 20:46:15 good _insert time of day here_, all Nov 04 20:46:19 :/ Nov 04 20:46:19 I am a retard I left the charger at the office.. now it's at just above 10% Nov 04 20:46:31 ouch Nov 04 20:47:10 Don't have another charger? It'll go slow, but it'll do something. Nov 04 20:47:34 usb from computer is charging it.. although it does say that it doesn't Nov 04 20:47:41 Although I've charged my wifes TP on my Nook Color charger (using a normal cable) and it seemed to charge fast. Nov 04 20:47:42 it seems to be keeping it at the same % level Nov 04 20:47:53 turn the screen off Nov 04 20:47:54 is overclocking useful? (new touchpad owner) Nov 04 20:47:55 Yeah, USB from computer will never be more than .5A/h Nov 04 20:48:10 thomaschaaf: Turn off logging stuff, using preware tools. That'll help with any lag. Nov 04 20:48:18 is that spec any different for usb3? Nov 04 20:48:21 thomaschaaf: if you turn the screen off it will trickle charge over USB Nov 04 20:48:36 screen off, it'll trickle charge, takes ~8 hours or so :) Nov 04 20:48:46 some motherboards have "charging" usb sockets Nov 04 20:48:55 sugardave: so word on the street is i can get some dev touchpads? Nov 04 20:49:01 yep yep Nov 04 20:49:02 USB3 = .9A, so almost double. Nov 04 20:49:14 Khaytsus: good to know... and useful Nov 04 20:49:21 HattCzech_work: http://bit.ly/sDSp0m Nov 04 20:49:26 in case you missed it Nov 04 20:49:27 http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/travelpower/e81a/ Nov 04 20:49:27 the phone charger doesn't seem to have enough power either Nov 04 20:50:27 oilsworkn: am in germany ;) Nov 04 20:50:38 the phone charger is 1A Nov 04 20:50:44 it'll work Nov 04 20:51:03 sugardave: thanks for the link Nov 04 20:51:10 it'll even trickle charge screen on Nov 04 20:51:26 thomaschaaf: im sure there is a german edition :) Nov 04 20:51:38 somewhere on the internets Nov 04 20:53:45 Loudergood: True, some do. Nov 04 20:55:09 * oilsworkn thinks to himself "how quaint, you charge your device with a cable..." xD Nov 04 20:57:55 indeed Nov 04 20:58:08 my nook (e-ink) annoys me when I have to plug it in Nov 04 20:59:34 i've never seen an iphone charging cable that wasn't falling to pieces Nov 04 21:02:33 new in box? Nov 04 21:04:13