**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Nov 06 02:59:57 2011 Nov 06 03:18:12 oh how i always leave this logged in, err.. ;^| Nov 06 03:19:02 halfhalo: still here? (so i can reply to what you wrote hours later) :) Nov 06 03:20:27 dkirker: yeah, keep being on the verge of grabbing a goPhone SIM or phone off craigslist, but either i or the buyer always flakes out.. ;^) There's one in oakland ($50 value on it, sellin for $40) i just need to go meet them, but i have to go to their house so i get lazy Nov 06 03:20:47 just go to the att store Nov 06 03:20:52 probably save you $10 in gas/time Nov 06 03:23:40 dwc-: oh i only try to meet them when i'm already in oakland, but can't manage to get myself to them.. :) Nov 06 03:23:43 I think SIMs are expensive.. Nov 06 03:24:00 khsahjbwfhyefbhu Nov 06 03:24:32 like, at least $10. Better to get a $50 sim for $40, than a phone or phone+sim for $10-20. I bought $50 of goPhone reload cards too, so i'm all ready.. hope this works in the att pre3 tho! :) Nov 06 03:24:59 halfhalo: really? I guess i've got a really broken VzPre3 then, mine works LIKE SHIT. (slow/laggy to the max) Nov 06 03:25:18 painful to use. it'd really be nicer to use my Pre+ than this Nov 06 03:25:35 mine both act the same, save for going through first use on the vzw one with a sim in it Nov 06 03:25:52 (it does feel nice in the hand, but that would only be helpful if i could use it with my eyes (and ears, cuz even skype audio could be laggy) closed :) Nov 06 03:26:20 Tibfib_: is there a 'mark as unread' option in nom^3 that i'm not seeing? Nov 06 03:27:15 * halfhalo goes to sleepin the corner Nov 06 03:28:29 the touchpad camera (3rd party) app provides nothing the 3.0.4 camera doesn't already provide right? Nov 06 03:28:43 halfhalo: wanna trade? ;^) Nov 06 03:31:00 http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/5/2538941/hp-touchpad-developer-device-discount#82062973 Nov 06 03:34:04 fxspec06: eek.. hopefully some good folks comment on slickdeals and other sites as well, I even saw trolls in the P|C comments.. :( Nov 06 03:35:06 hm, i guess i'm crazy, but nDrive for the TouchPad has like, NO options for use.. Nov 06 03:36:39 oh haven't checked out zinio yet.. oh it doesn't support wired on the touchpad?? if so bogus! Nov 06 03:37:06 grr. me hate trolls. trolls bad. trolls go away! Nov 06 03:37:26 * ajay wants to figure out if he can get wired on the touchpad, so types 'site:wired.com zinio' first link? Zinio Bring Free Pr0n to iPhone | Gadget Lab | Wired.com Nov 06 03:38:22 haha Nov 06 03:39:54 hm, wired.com mentions only "ipad access".. blech Nov 06 03:42:44 dkirker: oo, I see you're on ndrive's site right now too! heh Nov 06 03:43:00 Just looked to see if anything had changed :) Nov 06 03:43:22 They wanted people to report like 2 problems a week or something, yet they have not released a new beta in eons. Nov 06 03:43:28 dkirker: do you have it goin ok on your TP? Nov 06 03:43:35 Just been keep an eye out. Nov 06 03:43:57 I never installed it on the TP Nov 06 03:44:05 I don't think I ever got access for that Nov 06 03:44:13 dkirker: ah.. ok.. just ask, and you shall receive Nov 06 03:44:38 i'm going to ask for pre3.. assuming that GSM pre3s' GPS work fine w/o data Nov 06 03:44:42 I pretty much use it on my Pre3 Nov 06 03:44:47 It should Nov 06 03:44:58 verizon is very much no go in that dept Nov 06 03:45:22 of course Nov 06 03:45:24 heh Nov 06 03:45:28 That is why I ditched them Nov 06 03:45:53 gah, i closed ndrive, and now it won't relaunch Nov 06 03:53:21 is it just me, or does jstop not work on webOS 3.0.4? Nov 06 03:54:39 184 mb used? hrmm, maybe i need to luna restart then! eek Nov 06 03:54:47 s/work/work properly/ Nov 06 03:55:08 eww, my touchpad says hp when luna restarts, how could i allow this travesty Nov 06 03:55:50 fxspec06: tell 'em not to bother with fake info Nov 06 03:55:54 because that's where they're going to ship it Nov 06 03:58:27 dwc-: haha.. i was wondering about that, this dude in Oman.. what, you gonna put a fake US address? c'mon now.. Nov 06 03:58:52 maybe we can tell them about the credit check that HP runs first, prequalifies them for the HP Visa card, and..... Nov 06 03:59:34 hahahaha Nov 06 04:02:37 jstop hardly works on touchpad imo.. but i guess it works Nov 06 04:03:29 fxspec06: it worked fine on 3.0.2.. sure, it's phone-sized, but otherwise i had no complaints. Nov 06 04:04:20 oh yeah i forgot about that credit check / visa lol Nov 06 04:05:05 fxspec06: actually, i think once they buy the touchpad through that program, they're actually buying into the developer device program.. Nov 06 04:05:56 "get a touchpad for the low low price of $149.." (small print): "subsequent developer devices will be shipped and charged to your card every 3 months and.." Nov 06 04:06:13 goodbye to you too? sheesh.. ;^) Nov 06 04:06:18 heh Nov 06 04:06:31 they've been strict about developer devices before, i hope that hasn't changed.. Nov 06 04:07:23 i actually had no problem getting a dev device.. i got a free pre 2 back when i had zero apps and barely knew javascript Nov 06 04:07:34 so i'm sure it can be beaten. Nov 06 04:08:06 but i was probably more legitimate than that guy. i actually had plans and a prototype ;) Nov 06 04:08:44 fxspec06: i got a pre+, but they never got back to me about a pre2, i assumed the pre2 was because i still hadn't gotten anything outside of the beta catalog Nov 06 04:08:54 (which it still is, too bad dkirker left so i can't complain to him about it :) Nov 06 04:10:11 so you still have no app then? my pre 2 was shipped to me without notification and without any apps, even in the beta catalog Nov 06 04:10:32 hmm, voogleXL says it can be used w/ a skype account, but i'm not seeing it.. Nov 06 04:10:54 tap and hold on a message in middle pane, hit 'call' Nov 06 04:11:07 fxspec06: correct.. i figured getting the pre+ is what disqual'd me, but maybe they just didn't get my mail.. Nov 06 04:11:19 fxspec06: I'm still looking at the setup screen where it askss for linked phone# Nov 06 04:12:02 o hm. it's supposed to show your linked #.. not ask for it. if it asks for it it's a glitch Nov 06 04:14:09 fxspec06: really? the "Select linked phone number" shouldn't come up? Nov 06 04:14:27 it seems like it's meant to be, but, my touchpad aint got no linked # :) Nov 06 04:15:01 your google voice account needs a linked # Nov 06 04:15:05 hm, i hope chroid gets updated.. Nov 06 04:15:32 so you go to google website and set it up w/ your skype account Nov 06 04:15:38 fxspec06: it's got 6 linked numbers, none of them .. Nov 06 04:15:44 what?! google and skype?? Nov 06 04:15:50 none of them show? Nov 06 04:16:09 hm google and skype. that sounds pretty awesome actually Nov 06 04:16:11 i don't have a skypein #.. does google forward to a skype username now? I've been trying to figure this out for weeks! Nov 06 04:16:36 lol idk if it does. that'd be super if it would Nov 06 04:16:38 oh, man, you got me so excited for nothin..;^) Nov 06 04:16:56 i just assumed maybe possibly it would, because it should Nov 06 04:17:20 fxspec06: what i'm saying is that my touchpad doesn't have a phone #. So i can't select any of my phone#s as linked to my touchpad Nov 06 04:18:14 i mean, i could, but .. i don't know the point of that, other than to tell my touchpad to call my phone.. Nov 06 04:18:27 oh i see. it doesn't matter which one you pick, it doesn't do voice calling to that yet Nov 06 04:18:47 hrmm.. j Nov 06 04:18:48 k Nov 06 04:19:58 hm, this app doesn't seem to do much of anything! Nov 06 04:20:45 i hope chroid gets updated, i couldn't get it to work.. Nov 06 04:22:15 i haven't tried Nov 06 04:22:29 looks interesting though Nov 06 04:22:47 it was interesting to play with for about a minute, until the webos screen lock came up over the top of the android screen Nov 06 04:23:10 weird.. Nov 06 04:23:28 i still don't know what he did, but it seems _real_ innovative! we need more of him in webOS cmty :) Nov 06 04:23:36 if it ever gets stable, i'll probably install it and port wildn over to it. well, i would, if it supported webkit Nov 06 04:23:38 it looks like both webos and android were fighting for the usage of the video hardware Nov 06 04:24:41 EricBlade: you were playing with the card version then, i take it? (I was too and) that version sounded more problematic Nov 06 04:25:10 yeah, it looked like there was a card that represented it, but it wasn't actually really running in the card Nov 06 04:28:29 that's er. sketchy and scary. lol Nov 06 04:28:51 i wouldn't mind so much if i didn't depend on it Nov 06 04:29:12 but for now.... i have no choice but to stay away Nov 06 04:29:29 NO CHOICE I TELL YOU Nov 06 04:29:43 I SAY GOOD DAY Nov 06 04:29:48 is all i think of when you say that :) Nov 06 04:35:59 pulseaudio is a $%@$ to cross compile Nov 06 04:36:28 heh.. Nov 06 04:36:41 i can't get anything to cross-compile these days! Nov 06 04:36:57 hm, was sayin g'day for fun, but actually, i think i ought mean it.. see ya! Nov 06 04:37:10 argh. websql on 3.x is just junk. Nov 06 04:37:47 that's what she said Nov 06 04:47:49 another escape case history! batman can sleep again Nov 06 04:53:19 wtf? i just connected my touchpad to my computer, and it comes up and says "You must restart Windows to continue. Press OK to reboot." Nov 06 04:59:09 life's a bitch. and then it reboots Nov 06 05:05:40 `if only it reboots Nov 06 05:21:07 omg apanta fixed thistory Nov 06 05:21:32 it's only been what. 365,000 days now Nov 06 05:27:16 any one of you getting noticeable drains on 3.0.4 update? Nov 06 05:28:29 I might have. I picked up my TP the other day out of my bag and it was at 0% after not being touched since charging 3 days prior Nov 06 05:28:42 but it's also possible the screen was getting turned on in my bag Nov 06 05:35:23 dwc: mine sometimes won't turn on without a fight? Nov 06 05:36:21 what kind of a fight? Nov 06 05:39:12 no, I don't usually fight with mine Nov 06 05:40:22 well? pressing the power button 40 times.. holding it 30 seconds? trying the USB charger? trying the button again.. etc. Nov 06 05:40:50 after that, it comes on and the battery is at 70% or 60% Nov 06 05:40:53 so, it wasn't dead... Nov 06 05:41:30 I think its defective. Nov 06 05:45:40 well if it didn't do it on 3.0.2, it's probably not Nov 06 05:47:53 I got pretty good battery life with 3.0.2 Nov 06 05:48:18 just wondering if anyone notice the drain on 3.0.4 to confirm I'm not going crazy or if it's one of the patches I installed Nov 06 05:48:41 wow, now pulseaudio fails to compile now Nov 06 05:52:42 sup ladies Nov 06 05:52:55 3.0.2 definitely has better battery life Clark008 Nov 06 05:57:54 cool, I thought so Nov 06 05:58:07 it's still fine on 3.0.4, wasn't expecting it though Nov 06 05:58:13 thought updates would be better =\ Nov 06 05:59:23 apanta changed a lot Nov 06 05:59:34 i don't notice much difference w/ 3.0.4, tbh. Nov 06 05:59:34 yeah 3.0.4. is fine Nov 06 05:59:38 both are the same to me Nov 06 05:59:38 just not as good as 3.0.2. Nov 06 06:01:21 i'm so lost. did it just turn to 1am or 2am Nov 06 06:01:38 or 1am #1 or 1am #2 or 2am #1 or #2 Nov 06 06:08:07 ........... Nov 06 06:08:16 it's 11pm here Nov 06 06:08:22 that's all i know Nov 06 06:08:24 www.time.gov Nov 06 06:14:26 it's an odd night Nov 06 06:14:46 fxspec06: you ok dude? Nov 06 06:14:59 the clocks are changing tonight, they go back an hour Nov 06 06:15:52 these nights screw me up. i know there's two 2 o'clocks.. so it hasn't gone back yet Nov 06 06:18:42 but yeah, i'm good. trying to work some kinks out this app Nov 06 06:20:50 dont worry man just go to sleep and sleep good. Nov 06 06:21:05 fxspec06: what app you working on? Nov 06 06:21:46 vooglexl Nov 06 06:22:06 what's that do? Nov 06 06:22:15 i haven't had much time lately between school, and losing power for 5 days Nov 06 06:22:23 hmm Nov 06 06:22:34 can you make an ssh app? Nov 06 06:22:37 i'd appreciate that Nov 06 06:22:45 a la connect bot on android Nov 06 06:22:45 it's a google voice client. 3 panes, folders / messages / conversation Nov 06 06:22:50 fucking nice Nov 06 06:23:13 we really need a good gv client Nov 06 06:23:15 er i could but i probably don't have time Nov 06 06:23:18 http://www.precentral.net/app-review-vooglexl Nov 06 06:24:06 this thing's got some weird bugs. some are gone, but new ones keep flying in Nov 06 06:24:12 lol buncha haters Nov 06 06:24:52 oh yeah the reviews in teh catalog are worse.. they don't change their review after it gets update Nov 06 06:24:57 updated** Nov 06 06:25:47 of course not Nov 06 06:25:55 just rename the app and creat a new one :P Nov 06 06:25:59 meh the app is great. free texting. what more do you want Nov 06 06:26:23 blowjobs. Nov 06 06:26:35 ppl complain about 15 min timer, so i make 5 min timer in next update. Nov 06 06:26:59 then ppl will complain for 1 min timer. then they want push. even tho google dont support push......only native Nov 06 06:27:14 if you want push notifications, sign up for damn email updates. my god how hard is that Nov 06 06:27:56 Whether I am waiting for the content to refresh or for my voicemails to load, it seems that I was waiting more than actually managing my account. When switching between folders, even if I had already looked through them, the app reloads the content within them (causing me to wait). When selecting an item to look through, whether it was a voicemail or SMS conversation, I had to wait unnecessarily Nov 06 06:27:56 long for that item to load; and waiting, as you may know, is not a fun thing to be doing when there is an urgent message that needs to be listened to. Nov 06 06:28:03 i think that was the biggest complaint dude Nov 06 06:28:27 well yeah that's a valid complaint Nov 06 06:28:54 that was his biggest gripe Nov 06 06:28:56 but also the version i have sitting in my lap is faster than that Nov 06 06:28:59 that's what i got from the review Nov 06 06:29:09 yeah i can understand that Nov 06 06:29:11 i dontgive a fuck Nov 06 06:29:20 you're making a gv app Nov 06 06:29:22 does it work? Nov 06 06:29:25 is it free? Nov 06 06:29:26 awesome Nov 06 06:29:28 thanks. Nov 06 06:29:40 lol no it's vooglexl and it's pay for Nov 06 06:30:27 i wish i could afford to work for free Nov 06 06:30:33 hmm Nov 06 06:30:41 well just hook me up cuz we're homies Nov 06 06:30:49 i wont tlel anyone Nov 06 06:30:51 tell* Nov 06 06:30:58 meh Nov 06 06:31:00 LOL Nov 06 06:31:18 i love messing with developers Nov 06 06:31:27 i am your exact opposite Nov 06 06:31:42 you are the ........ consumer Nov 06 06:32:16 no Nov 06 06:32:22 im a sysadmin by trade Nov 06 06:32:34 so "tecnically" I am your opposite Nov 06 06:32:55 the one who consumes. the one who takes away life. who eats, sips, and sucks the blood and life out of every good product, yet demands more each and every time Nov 06 06:33:11 ah the sysadmin Nov 06 06:33:12 im not just some fat 500 pound idiot sitting on his couch buying apps Nov 06 06:33:38 i swear that's all some ppl do Nov 06 06:33:44 yep Nov 06 06:33:47 not me though Nov 06 06:33:51 they buy apps just to write negative reviews Nov 06 06:34:02 LOL Nov 06 06:34:10 well at least you got paid Nov 06 06:34:45 they think just because they have money, that they have a right to say whatever they want, even if what they bought does exactly what it says it does Nov 06 06:35:02 see Nov 06 06:35:08 as if the app cost more than two snickers bars Nov 06 06:35:49 i feel i have the right to say whatever i want because i know what a good ui looks like and i have to support users Nov 06 06:35:53 i can see they have a valid complaint if my app cost them a life supply of candy. but at $1.99, it's a great product Nov 06 06:36:04 fxspec06 Nov 06 06:36:09 the best i could advice i could give you Nov 06 06:36:18 is just dont take it so personally man. Nov 06 06:36:26 lol Nov 06 06:37:08 seriously Nov 06 06:37:08 then i expect they don't take it personally when i decide to not rush to update it next time ;) Nov 06 06:37:17 developers take criticism so seriously Nov 06 06:37:22 because it's like Nov 06 06:37:27 someone saying your son is ugly Nov 06 06:38:24 oh man i totally lost what i wanted to do Nov 06 06:39:20 lol Nov 06 06:39:22 sorry mn Nov 06 06:39:26 you can blame me Nov 06 06:39:27 it's cool Nov 06 06:39:51 it's all your fault! Nov 06 06:39:59 sorry sir Nov 06 06:40:25 eh Nov 06 06:41:21 <3 Nov 06 06:41:29 can you seriously please make an ssh app? Nov 06 06:43:24 not familiar with ssh Nov 06 06:44:06 owrd Nov 06 06:44:07 wor Nov 06 06:44:08 dd Nov 06 06:44:14 there is a lack of a proper ssh app Nov 06 06:50:12 oh wow i love it totally when i actually debug shit and it works Nov 06 06:50:23 time consuming? of course. =| Nov 06 06:50:35 so glad im not a dev Nov 06 06:50:59 fxspec06 are you starving? Nov 06 06:51:05 i could probably get a job here Nov 06 06:51:10 probably get you* Nov 06 06:51:31 where is here Nov 06 06:51:38 the center of the universe Nov 06 06:51:43 take a wild guess Nov 06 06:52:19 hm at ... palm Nov 06 06:52:22 where is the center of your universe? Nov 06 06:52:27 where are they located? Nov 06 06:52:44 on the opposite coast Nov 06 06:52:50 =( socal Nov 06 06:52:55 norcal Nov 06 06:52:57 not socal Nov 06 06:53:00 sunnyvale, ca Nov 06 06:53:05 I live in San Jose, CA Nov 06 06:53:24 east bay is cooler Nov 06 06:53:30 i've got to finish school. Nov 06 06:53:46 that's more important than a job right now Nov 06 06:54:12 east bay sucks wrea you are out of your mind Nov 06 06:55:10 nah man Nov 06 06:56:42 what's better about the east bay wrea Nov 06 06:56:48 where in the east bay are you? Nov 06 06:56:57 you're in fucking washington Nov 06 06:57:05 you are trolling Nov 06 06:57:22 I dont think I'm the troll here Nov 06 06:57:43 I lived and grew up in the east bay, so my opinion is valid Nov 06 06:57:49 where in the east bay Nov 06 06:57:53 oakland? Nov 06 06:57:56 fremont? Nov 06 06:58:01 concord? Nov 06 06:58:04 hayward? Nov 06 06:58:31 none of those are decent towns. Nov 06 06:59:15 well, good thing there are more cities than that in the east bay Nov 06 06:59:42 ha Nov 06 06:59:48 they're all the same Nov 06 06:59:57 only decent thing in the east bay is alameda. Nov 06 07:00:05 pfft Nov 06 07:00:31 ...? Nov 06 07:00:36 prove me wrong Nov 06 07:00:39 i dare you Nov 06 07:01:30 our opinions on 'decent' are probably different. Not that I could say anything to you that'd change your mind anyway Nov 06 07:01:49 Only place I really dont like is Berkeley, damn hippies Nov 06 07:02:03 hey, what's wrong with concord Nov 06 07:02:06 or fremont Nov 06 07:02:12 plenty wrong with oakland, lol Nov 06 07:02:17 lol Nov 06 07:02:53 alameda is nice-ish Nov 06 07:03:06 it's all the people that didn't wanna live in oakland, ba-dum-tish Nov 06 07:03:14 lol Nov 06 07:03:43 I like where I lived, but I'm not exactly impartial Nov 06 07:04:23 and how is san jose any more decent Nov 06 07:05:03 Yeah Nov 06 07:05:27 It's not like San Jose is an upscale city like Moraga :P Nov 06 07:05:39 or lafayette Nov 06 07:05:44 Exactly Nov 06 07:06:07 and if you want non-hippie berkeley, just avoid certain parts of it Nov 06 07:06:33 Yeah, I know, I just like to hippie-bash :P Nov 06 07:06:46 * dwc- happened to mostly enjoy living in berkeley Nov 06 07:07:23 I only really went there to go to Looking Glass when I needed photo supplied urgently Nov 06 07:08:10 It's on Telegraph and pedestrians loved to dart across the road Nov 06 08:15:00 are there ways to add extra streaming codecs on the touchpad ? Nov 06 08:55:06 are either expat or libxml2 available on the touchpad in a way that could be linked to by a node service? Nov 06 08:56:36 looks like both are there Nov 06 08:56:54 hrm Nov 06 12:10:58 http://pastebin.com/Z0eK3LYC here is my divider in a mojo app, but on the touchpad as fullscreen app (with "uiRevision": 2) this divider is not long enough to cover all the scene Nov 06 12:11:02 any help ?? Nov 06 13:59:22 hi guys hou much veer 4g？ Nov 06 15:35:37 hm, is there a known workaround for playing stuff from music.google.com? It always stops when turning off the display Nov 06 15:51:36 abyssul, are you here? Nov 06 15:53:14 Darkmagister: ping Nov 06 15:53:28 pong Nov 06 15:53:49 the divider is an image. You'll need to modify the .png and override the CSS Nov 06 15:54:11 if I remember correctly Nov 06 15:56:58 palm-divider.labeled .right { Nov 06 15:57:02 and/or .left Nov 06 16:01:33 haeffb: it may just be a css mod Nov 06 16:01:42 palm-divider-line.png Nov 06 16:01:45 I'm pretty sure part of the divider is a repeat of an image Nov 06 16:03:01 background: url(../images/palm-divider-line.png) left center no-repeat; Nov 06 16:03:20 FINE Nov 06 16:03:39 perhaps you could change it to repeat Nov 06 16:04:05 yeah, probably not worth the effort Nov 06 16:05:03 anyone here using a 3g touchpad Nov 06 16:13:46 haeffb Tibfib_ thanks i'm trying Nov 06 16:23:16 .palm-dark .palm-divider.labeled .left { Nov 06 16:23:16 background: url(../images/palm-divider-line-dark.png) right no-repeat; Nov 06 16:23:16 } Nov 06 16:23:17 .palm-dark .palm-divider.labeled .right { Nov 06 16:23:19 background-image: url(../images/palm-divider-line-dark.png); Nov 06 16:23:21 } Nov 06 16:48:43 yes with repeat-x work ... but Nov 06 16:48:47 not good Nov 06 16:49:09 because the image is curved at the beginning so on the repeat is not very good to see Nov 06 16:49:55 yeah you'd have to put the curve image there, then put the straight line there to repeat Nov 06 16:52:31 let me try Nov 06 16:57:30 Tibfib_: what's up dude? how's life Nov 06 16:59:04 hey! Nov 06 16:59:07 not a lot Nov 06 16:59:18 finished applying for colleges last week Nov 06 16:59:27 been watching 24…. trying to think of a new project Nov 06 16:59:32 I might finish koto enyo Nov 06 17:00:14 what have you been up to? Nov 06 17:00:21 24's a good show. haven't seen it in a while though Nov 06 17:00:39 yeah I like it. free on amazon prime Nov 06 17:00:59 i've been doing school stuff, trying to get a's. lately that's most all i've been doing, last month here is crammed Nov 06 17:01:23 we lost power in MA for 5 days .. some are still without lol Nov 06 17:01:53 no new projects .. not a whole lot of time for developing Nov 06 17:02:06 * fxspec06 sadface Nov 06 17:02:52 whoa Nov 06 17:03:03 why? any natural disaster? Nov 06 17:03:24 we got a foot of wet heavy snow, some places got 2 feet Nov 06 17:03:46 nice Nov 06 17:03:47 it took down trees and power lines, literally everywhere. there's so many trees here and they all fell down Nov 06 17:03:55 where? Nov 06 17:04:09 the grid didn't learn much from the ice storm we had a couple years ago Nov 06 17:04:25 northeast, CT got hit the worst. MA was pretty bad too Nov 06 17:04:49 heh, we had an ice storm ~3 years ago. No school for a week. it was great Nov 06 17:05:59 yeah it was fun but i spent the whole time mostly worrying about my projects and how much productivity i was losing Nov 06 17:06:21 *but* i did have fun blowing money at foxwoods =D Nov 06 17:06:30 yeah, it was great when I had no commitments or work to worry about :) Nov 06 17:07:19 i hate papers. i have two due dec 1st and i'm trying to get them done right away so i can have more time to dev Nov 06 17:07:46 which, i know won't happen because i'll just end up getting more schoolwork =( Nov 06 17:09:06 you got any koto screenshots? Nov 06 17:09:13 yeah that storm was way early for you guys down there, with the leaves still on I bet most of the trees look like they got hit with bombs Nov 06 17:10:25 of the new one? Nov 06 17:10:26 no Nov 06 17:11:49 Tibfib_: Kids these days. Why, when WE had an ice storm in '98, we didn't have school for TWO weeks. Nov 06 17:12:05 So there :p Nov 06 17:12:23 Shadyman: hahaah :) Nov 06 17:12:25 bbl Nov 06 17:21:26 2 ft of snow? that's not very much Nov 06 17:30:44 yeah it was the leaves still being on the trees that caused them problems Nov 06 17:30:55 and that ice storm in 98 was something else Nov 06 17:50:14 I installed openssh on my touchpad but can't connect anymore.. is there a way to check if the service is running? Nov 06 17:50:20 or to manually run the service? Nov 06 17:51:40 it runs via upstart Nov 06 17:51:51 so you can use initctl, start, stop, status, etc Nov 06 17:52:12 via tty? or on device ? Nov 06 17:52:44 either Nov 06 17:54:24 root@ThomasTouchpad:/var/palm/event.d# initctl status openssh initctl status openssh initctl: (57538/227267006) Unknown job: openssh Nov 06 17:54:43 am I doing it wrong :( Nov 06 17:56:24 how did you install openssh? preware or ipkg-opt? Nov 06 17:57:08 preware Nov 06 17:57:17 it should be called mobi.optware.openssh then Nov 06 17:57:29 check the name in /var/palm/event.d Nov 06 17:58:06 why did it not automatically start? Nov 06 17:58:42 there could be a number of reasons Nov 06 18:22:02 hm k I am trying to tweak the findapps app but have the problem that it seems to be cached.. so I have to restart everytime I change a line of code.. any idea how I can force it to reset the cache? Nov 06 18:33:47 hello does this channel support the development of webOS Nov 06 18:34:16 wow nevermond lol Nov 06 18:34:54 i was reading http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1230912 and it says to be on 3.0.2 but i am on 3.0.4 is there a way to overclock it still? Nov 06 18:39:34 yep just install preware and govnah and the kernel :) Nov 06 18:39:57 ok thanks Nov 06 18:46:51 thomaschaaf, when adding webos-testing-all in name and http://ipkg.preware.org/feeds/webos-internals/testing/all in url when i got to hit add feed it says "the instructions you are following are obsolete. see http://testing.preware.org Nov 06 18:46:54 any ideas? Nov 06 18:47:54 why would you need testing? Nov 06 18:48:21 im following what it says on the forum in XDA to install the kernwl Nov 06 18:48:23 oh I just read what you wrote.. Nov 06 18:48:37 seems like a stupid idea at the level of your knowledge Nov 06 18:48:56