**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Nov 11 02:59:57 2011
Nov 11 03:00:30 <madnificent> when the pre2 is fully charged and attached to the usb charger, will it start draining power from the battery again (normally)?
Nov 11 03:01:08 <madnificent> if someone could check that, that'd be awesome
Nov 11 03:01:40 <fxspec06_> it will drain until it hits 95% and then charge up again.
Nov 11 03:01:45 <fxspec06_> 95 or 98
Nov 11 03:02:03 <madnificent> ah great, thanks!
Nov 11 03:02:59 <fxspec06_> yep. good to keep it on the charger at all times. i'm terrible at this, which is why it's good to have a touchstone. which i also do not have...
Nov 11 03:05:05 <madnificent> the charging system seems to be partially borked here... which is why i asked
Nov 11 03:05:23 <madnificent> no touchstone will fix that, i guess
Nov 11 03:05:33 <madnificent> the touchstone is/was way too expensive in europe tbh
Nov 11 03:06:10 <Shadyman> madnificent: Wait. "Legitimate trolling"? My head just imploded.
Nov 11 03:06:20 <Shadyman> oxymoron of the year right there
Nov 11 03:08:18 <madnificent> Shadyman: joking around and trolling may have an overlap, thus the trolling isn't necessarily bad at that moment :)  add the fact that it was an answer to a question, and i'd tend to call it legitimate ):
Nov 11 03:08:30 <madnificent> s/):/:)
Nov 11 03:09:52 <Shadyman> ;)
Nov 11 03:57:18 <PuffTheMagic> madnificent, megasquirt was a shit ton of work, but not super expensive
Nov 11 03:57:44 <PuffTheMagic> i had to use a scope to figure out my cam timing
Nov 11 03:58:53 <PuffTheMagic> and u need this special router board if u have coils on each of your plugs
Nov 11 03:59:00 <PuffTheMagic> instead of a distributor
Nov 11 03:59:05 <PuffTheMagic> which most new cars have
Nov 11 03:59:18 <PuffTheMagic> so u could get a distributor and do a really ugly retro
Nov 11 03:59:23 <hewball> PuffTheMagic: what engine did u get megasquirt running on
Nov 11 03:59:33 <PuffTheMagic> vq30
Nov 11 04:02:32 <PuffTheMagic> i would go gredy emanage next time
Nov 11 04:02:37 <PuffTheMagic> i was drawn to the open software
Nov 11 04:02:44 <PuffTheMagic> but i never got around to having fun with that
Nov 11 04:03:04 <PuffTheMagic> cause just getting basic squirt and spark working was a bitch
Nov 11 04:03:15 <PuffTheMagic> then i blew my engine
Nov 11 04:03:19 <PuffTheMagic> unrelated to the MS
Nov 11 04:32:18 <Freman> ok, I now have an index of all available observations...
Nov 11 04:32:36 <Freman> so the next update of weatherwatch will include current observations
Nov 11 04:33:57 <hewball> Freman: nice work :D
Nov 11 04:34:27 <Freman> (it's not *all* the observations, I excluded some sites, but there should be enough to please most people)
Nov 11 04:35:38 <Freman> http://pastebin.com/TdHUSBZF - I do love xpath - now :D
Nov 11 04:59:43 <Freman> just have to motivate self to do something... anything... tho... sleeping at my desk is tempting
Nov 11 05:03:36 <DougReeder> Read up on gQuery Mobile?
Nov 11 05:17:34 <DougReeder> Er, jQuery? Damn, I must be tired.
Nov 11 05:19:19 <Freman> that's exactly my problem
Nov 11 05:19:26 <Freman> this is the longest friday on history
Nov 11 05:19:43 * DougReeder makes a moue
Nov 11 05:23:20 <Freman> muse?
Nov 11 05:23:44 <DougReeder> A small grimace.
Nov 11 05:34:18 * DougReeder waves goodnight
Nov 11 11:21:45 <amazari>  heya everyone. I am wondering how can i route calls to a standard phone number using skype-out instead of carrier network on pre 3. is there any solution apart from creating a new skype entry in my contacts? thanks!
Nov 11 14:36:34 <dwc-> was I just oblivious before, or doesprecentral skinned as mobilenations no longer have the precentral news at the bottom of the pages
Nov 11 14:43:43 <fxspec06_> i didn't notice
Nov 11 15:35:10 <summatusmentis> guys, my touchpad casing is cracking :(
Nov 11 15:35:33 <fxspec06_> mine too =|
Nov 11 15:35:51 <summatusmentis> the section around one of the speakers has completely cracked through on one side
Nov 11 15:36:43 <fxspec06_> mine is cracked on both sides, but not all the way through
Nov 11 15:39:30 <panel> summatusmentis without any crash ?
Nov 11 15:39:43 <summatusmentis> panel: I haven't dropped it, if that's what you're asking
Nov 11 15:39:55 <panel> yes, strange
Nov 11 15:40:26 <summatusmentis> meh, it's a known issue
Nov 11 15:40:32 <summatusmentis> manufacturing defect
Nov 11 15:42:21 <panel> glue will fix it :)
Nov 11 15:42:46 <panel> it's on all touchpads ?
Nov 11 15:44:45 <summatusmentis> not all touchpads necessarily
Nov 11 15:44:45 <fxspec06_> basically
Nov 11 15:44:55 <summatusmentis> but certainly all touchpads can be susceptible
Nov 11 15:49:14 <panel> hmm
Nov 11 15:50:28 <panel> i don't have touchpad
Nov 11 15:50:40 <panel> i wanted to buy in firesale, but no luck
Nov 11 15:50:45 <fxspec06_> you probably won't be affected then
Nov 11 15:51:00 <fxspec06_> idk though, it's a fairly widespread issue.
Nov 11 15:51:01 <dwc-> see? lukcy you. no problems
Nov 11 15:51:49 <panel> dwc- lol
Nov 11 15:51:53 <panel> you're right
Nov 11 15:52:39 <panel> but i want to develop for tp and emulator is so impersonal
Nov 11 15:52:44 <summatusmentis> I hope it doesn't affect my usage long term
Nov 11 15:53:30 <fxspec06_> i would say that the developer device program would be perfect for you
Nov 11 15:56:00 <EricBlade> oh, mine got dropped good last night, i need to have a look at it
Nov 11 15:56:07 <EricBlade> drunken touchpad video recording :|
Nov 11 15:56:26 <panel> fxspec06_ emulator is very good, but would be nicer, if I develop some app and I can use it :)
Nov 11 15:57:16 <panel> EricBlade I see, that you have benn without internet last night :D
Nov 11 15:57:25 <panel> *been
Nov 11 16:02:24 <panel> EricBlade cross fingers that will be ok
Nov 11 16:07:03 <panel> EricBlade sorry my previous reaction, I badly translated sentence
Nov 11 16:33:39 <EricBlade> no damage to my touchpad yay
Nov 11 16:33:51 <panel> great
Nov 11 17:04:18 <EricBlade> it's kind of annoying that webOS 1 has nice video uploading to youtube support, and webOS 3 has.. crap.
Nov 11 17:07:33 <EricBlade> also, pre+ camera and mic are ridiculously better than touchpad's.
Nov 11 17:10:19 <fxspec06_> really..? you're gonna hate on the touchpad camera?
Nov 11 17:10:45 <EricBlade> i thought the mic would be better at least, but it may be -too- sensitive
Nov 11 17:14:21 <ka6sox> EricBlade, that can be fixed you knwo
Nov 11 17:14:27 <ka6sox> and easily
Nov 11 19:50:56 <rwatkins> hm no app mail yet this week
Nov 11 20:04:04 <EricBlade> setting up new device for daughter, who lives in another state.  want to configure and setup stuff before sending it, don't want her to know about it prior to receiving.  obviously, i can't use her email address to activate it.  SO, should I put it on my account, or create a new email and webos account for it...
Nov 11 20:04:04 <EricBlade> advantages to my account: access all the existing downloads. disadvantages to my account: she won't be able to purchase things on her own unless each device can have it's own cedit card linked? ...  reverse those for the other point of view. any other things that i'm not considering here?
Nov 11 20:05:50 <panel> is any way to make more than one device on one account ?
Nov 11 20:22:58 <PuffTheMagic> EricBlade, cant you change the email after she has it
Nov 11 20:23:15 <PuffTheMagic> that way you can keep it a surprise
Nov 11 20:24:38 <PuffTheMagic> i hate waiting for packages to arrive
Nov 11 20:33:17 <panel> is any way to disable that f*cking redirect from url maps.google.com ?
Nov 11 20:34:14 <PuffTheMagic> panel, u are not allowed to filter swear words in here
Nov 11 20:34:33 <panel> lol
Nov 11 20:35:16 <EricBlade> PuffTheMagic: i don't know?
Nov 11 20:35:16 <panel> i want to little bit upgrade my gmaps app
Nov 11 20:35:23 <panel> but this redirect is killing me
Nov 11 20:35:43 <PuffTheMagic> EricBlade, dont u have a profilke u can test it on?
Nov 11 20:37:54 <EricBlade> well, i don't really know what our options are with the profiles
Nov 11 20:38:15 <EricBlade> i know we have to do a full wipe or doctor to switch profiles on the device
Nov 11 20:46:09 <PuffTheMagic> that not what im saying
Nov 11 20:46:20 <PuffTheMagic> you are trying to keep the phone a surprise right?
Nov 11 20:46:41 <PuffTheMagic> log into your existing profile and see if u can change its email
Nov 11 20:46:56 <PuffTheMagic> if u can, then create new profiles for the gift phone with your email
Nov 11 20:47:03 <PuffTheMagic> and then switch it once the gift is recieved
Nov 11 20:47:17 <panel> nice
Nov 11 20:47:45 <panel> url http://maps.google.com/maps/m with palm pre user agent
Nov 11 20:47:51 <panel> Please tap here to update to the new Maps app.
Nov 11 20:47:53 <panel> in my firefox
Nov 11 20:48:02 <Shadyman> panel: That's what I get on my pre2 too
Nov 11 20:48:10 <panel> that's google side
Nov 11 20:48:17 <Shadyman> it brings you to the palm page for the google app, non-zoomable :x
Nov 11 20:48:45 <panel> no you don't understand this is on my desktop computer with palm user agnet set
Nov 11 20:49:29 <Shadyman> Hm. Maybe they made it use a different URL?
Nov 11 20:49:48 <panel> i wanted to know
Nov 11 20:49:56 <panel> where is that redirect doing
Nov 11 20:50:06 <panel> it'son google
Nov 11 20:50:25 <panel> they took your user agent
Nov 11 20:50:44 <Shadyman> yeah. certainly bass-ackwards
Nov 11 20:50:46 <panel> and when is there palm pre
Nov 11 20:50:57 <Shadyman> you'd think they'd push it through Palm
Nov 11 20:50:59 <panel> they displays that fucking webpage
Nov 11 20:51:03 <panel> yes
Nov 11 20:51:43 <panel> because i want to do search in my gmaps app
Nov 11 20:52:08 <panel> but ?q= parameter works only on maps.google.com url
Nov 11 20:53:05 <panel> only one url is functional http://maps.google.com/maps/mm
Nov 11 20:53:11 <panel> on palm phones
Nov 11 20:53:16 <EricBlade> PuffTheMagic: hmm.  does it enforce a device wipe, if I associate it to my account, then later hit "Remove From My Account"?  will it allow that device to be associated to a different account then, preferably without a wipe?  or should i just make a whole new account, and then change the name/password/email on it after the fact..
Nov 11 21:47:12 <rwhitby> EricBlade: it will wipe. Use Impostah for swapping accounts.
Nov 11 21:54:41 <chuqui> hey, webOS early access members -- you know the drill. go take a look. although I can't say why.
Nov 11 22:00:40 <ajay> any EA folks here?
Nov 11 22:00:47 <rwatkins> indeed
Nov 11 22:00:48 <ajay> oh, hola!
Nov 11 22:04:40 <panel> somebody can help with filterlist ?
Nov 11 22:16:49 <PuffTheMagic> rwhitby, EricBlade why do u need to switch accounts
Nov 11 22:17:01 <PuffTheMagic> all im suggesting is change the email address associated with a profile
Nov 11 22:17:28 <EricBlade> i want to set it up with the stuff that i've already paid for
Nov 11 22:17:55 <PuffTheMagic> oh
Nov 11 22:17:59 <PuffTheMagic> u said set it up
Nov 11 22:18:05 <rwatkins> so you want to pirate all your software for someone else?
Nov 11 22:18:15 <PuffTheMagic> i assumed you meant install custom kernel and that sort of shit
Nov 11 22:18:17 <PuffTheMagic> not pirate
Nov 11 22:18:21 <rwhitby> rwatkins: no, he wants to purchase software for someone else
Nov 11 22:18:43 <rwhitby> rwatkins: and he's trying to find a way to do that, since HP doesn't allow us to spend more money on apps that way normally
Nov 11 22:18:45 <PuffTheMagic> EricBlade, did u already buy this software or are you planning on it?
Nov 11 22:19:15 <EricBlade> some of it
Nov 11 22:19:16 <rwhitby> EricBlade: yeah, set up profile, buy apps, change email address, is the way
Nov 11 22:20:18 <rwatkins> so then I dont get it -- purchased software is owned by the profile you bought it with.
Nov 11 22:20:32 <rwatkins> if you bought it, you own it, you cant give a second copy to some other profile.
Nov 11 22:20:44 <rwatkins> and its one phone per profile.
Nov 11 22:21:43 <rwatkins> the other method is as rwhitby suggests - setup a new profile, put your card on it, buy the software, then change the email address on the profile to hers.
Nov 11 22:26:16 <ajay> i wish it wasn't 1 profile per device, my veer promo code just sat in the box, and now, it's gone.. so sad
Nov 11 22:29:38 <rwhitby> rwatkins: the issue here is it's a gift, so can't use real email address to set it up
Nov 11 22:30:03 <rwhitby> but changing the email later should work fine
Nov 11 22:31:09 <rwatkins> sure, or just setup a second email address and say "here's your palm profile login / password" tucked into the box.
Nov 11 22:32:10 <rwatkins> not like that email address ever gets email she needs - just needs to know if she ever has to doctor and reactivate.  but suspect if he's pre-loading shes also not likely to be one to docotor their own device.
Nov 11 22:36:46 <PuffTheMagic> i wonder if people can buy promo codes
Nov 11 23:22:15 <ajay> did i netsplit or is it just quiet all of a sudden?  :|
Nov 11 23:38:12 <ajay> i guess it's just quiet then :)
Nov 11 23:38:19 <Shadyman> yep
Nov 11 23:38:50 * ajay really needs to be coming up with some clever webOS meetup ideas, sigh..
Nov 11 23:43:59 <PuffTheMagic> ajay, occupy hp
Nov 11 23:45:37 <ajay> PuffTheMagic: umm, i'm pretty sure that was my idea weeks ago, and nobody would go along with it.. :)
Nov 11 23:46:35 <EricBlade> i have yet to actually locate the point of the "occupy" stuff
Nov 11 23:47:03 <EricBlade> whoa.. how did i not know there was a version of Duke Nukem 3D for touchpad?
Nov 11 23:47:15 <ajay> PuffTheMagic: the funny thing is i'm posting about the november meetup, as adjacent to Occupy SF :)
Nov 11 23:48:18 <panel> good night
Nov 11 23:48:25 <ajay> EricBlade: locate? "point"?  I think i know why you're having trouble.. you're watching corporate media? and ignoring the national debate, the foreclosures stopped, the lowered crime rates, the delayed tar sands pipeline, the reversed bank of america debit card fee...
Nov 11 23:48:55 <EricBlade> i just read stuff online
Nov 11 23:48:57 <ajay> EricBlade: Duke Nukem is open source i think?  I don't know if it's SDL and an easy port like Doom/quake or not tho..
Nov 11 23:49:06 <EricBlade> ajay: it's an official port
Nov 11 23:49:09 <ajay> oh!
Nov 11 23:49:16 <ajay> that is surprising..
Nov 11 23:49:56 <EricBlade> i wonder if there's anything duke nukem 3d isn't ported for
Nov 11 23:50:55 <ajay> EricBlade: do you have the appcat (web) link? I searched google duke nukem 3d site:palm.com but only came out with an unofficial for webOS2
Nov 11 23:51:16 <EricBlade> i walked by the occupy ann arbor thing the other day. it was two guys that were known homeless guys drinking in a tent
Nov 11 23:51:52 <EricBlade> umm.. don't have the link, but i just went by it in the catalog.. it's called merely "Duke"
Nov 11 23:52:02 <ajay> who is this machineworksnorthwest? do they own the rights to duke, from id?
Nov 11 23:52:49 <EricBlade> i think they were the ones that did the ports to iOS and Android, not sure though
Nov 11 23:52:59 <EricBlade> and it's from Apogee / 3D realms
Nov 11 23:53:21 <ajay> EricBlade: i found that, https://developer.palm.com/appredirect/?packageid=com.machineworksnorthwest.duke3d it says webOS 2.0+.. i don't see Apogee/3d realms name on it except for attribution
Nov 11 23:53:49 <ajay> i hear ann arbor's a really cool town, i'd expect them to have a better occupy than my town, weird..
Nov 11 23:53:59 <EricBlade> hmm. i thought it was official, maybe not.
Nov 11 23:54:13 <EricBlade> i'd guess it would be unless it just has the shareware version data
Nov 11 23:55:16 <ajay> they might have a license tho, if they did iOS and android it's very possible..
Nov 11 23:55:26 <ajay> looks like the android version's pretty recent.. http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/13/duke-nukem-3d-is-coming-to-android-old-rope-shares-soar/
Nov 11 23:56:31 <EricBlade> when they were still trying to find money to find duke nukem forever, they had it ported to just about everything under the sun. it may run on my toaster, which doesn't even run linux
Nov 11 23:56:58 <ajay> (I assume the webOS version is old, but maybe it's not so old..)
Nov 11 23:57:10 <EricBlade> s/find/fund/
Nov 11 23:57:25 <EricBlade> it does at least say "For TouchPad" on the catalog
Nov 11 23:58:03 <ajay> EricBlade: if it's the same link i posted then it's not TP-specific, just compatible
Nov 12 00:01:43 <EricBlade> as far as back to the subject of occupy, i'm unfortunately woefully disconnected. everyone i talk to is either a nerd or a poker player.
Nov 12 00:03:10 <EricBlade> i know exactly one person that i know of who has anything to do with it, she's headed to the Detroit gathering this weekend
Nov 12 00:06:40 <ajay> EricBlade: hopefully my quick comment gave some examples of what it's tangibly accomplishing, which to me is not even the best part of it (intangible is :)
Nov 12 00:07:04 <ajay> detroit? that sounds hot.. i like to tell people i'm from detroit.. :)
Nov 12 00:07:19 <EricBlade> ... she also happens to be the only person i know that is completely unemployed, as opposed to significantly undervalued.
Nov 12 00:08:18 <ajay> I came for the USSF last year, unintentionally visited my hospital of birth for a friend (he's ok now)
Nov 12 00:09:46 <ajay> i definitely have a lot of techies and talk-a-lot pundits in my circles, the former i'd like to enrich with ideas (like Puff's idea :), the latter i feel i need to extricate myself from, and find others.. people concerned with justice, not politics
Nov 12 00:11:47 <ajay> i wish i could figure out how to have meaningful work instead of trying to just pay bills.. maybe i need some more creative sparks
Nov 12 00:12:01 <ajay> hey does anyone here have an app in the preware feed?
Nov 12 00:12:16 <ajay> oh i don't have time to ask that q now, let me table that for later.. :)
Nov 12 00:13:44 <akanster`> ooh - http://twitter.com/#!/webOSdev/status/135112544506486785
Nov 12 00:14:04 <EricBlade> i may be moving from "barely employed freelance game developer/telephone sales monkey/card dealer/webos app author" to "senior design engineer for a big name game company", which will be quite a boost in my relative worth.
Nov 12 00:16:05 <ajay> akanster`: i know.. and to think, they've already laid off all the webOS engineers twice in the last 2 weeks! :)
Nov 12 00:16:19 <akanster`> they did?
Nov 12 00:16:29 <ajay> akanster`: per the rumors :)
Nov 12 00:17:52 <Shadyman> ruh oh. https://twitter.com/#!/unwiredben/statuses/135125510530416640
Nov 12 00:18:45 <ajay> is that bill or ted's twitter feed url?
Nov 12 00:19:13 <ajay> akanster`: aka, no they didn't (phew!)
Nov 12 00:19:43 <ajay> don't you guys all subscribe to the topic notification? much easier imho.. :)
Nov 12 00:22:20 * ajay signed up for republic wireless.. alas webOS you may slowly leave my life for a carrier choice :(
Nov 12 00:25:34 * EricBlade looks super excited at akanster`
Nov 12 00:25:47 <akanster`> ?
Nov 12 00:26:00 <ajay> akanster: I dunno, but i'd run
Nov 12 00:26:13 <EricBlade> looking at the thing you mentioned from twitter
Nov 12 00:26:15 <EricBlade> it's exciting
Nov 12 00:26:33 <ajay> any bay area folks here that aren't yet tapped into our meetup yet?
Nov 12 00:26:55 <ajay> s/yet?/?/
Nov 12 00:27:20 <akanster> there are still webOS meetups?
Nov 12 00:29:00 <Shadyman> EricBlade: the secret early access stuff usually is. That's why it's secret :p
Nov 12 00:30:59 <EricBlade> i don't know exactly what information specifically is secret, so i'm just going to say that i am very excited.
Nov 12 00:33:39 <ajay> akanster: I didn't get the memo to stop, did others? :)_
Nov 12 00:34:06 <akanster> I'm surprised there is still interest... Good to hear tho
Nov 12 00:34:17 <ajay> Look at the PC and WOR events forum, there's def stuff coming up in multiple towns.. our october meetup was the most successful one we've EVER had!  (We've had official and unofficial ones going on-and-off since march!)
Nov 12 00:36:12 <ajay> i don't think there are maemo or even ubuntu meetups going on around here (in silicon valley!) so by default, we blow many away.. (maybe blackberry and winPhone7 too? :)
Nov 12 00:36:28 <ajay> ok gtg soon.. way past lunch (As always! ;^)
Nov 12 00:54:02 <astruasdh> I am with a big problem, please, can you help me?
Nov 12 00:54:11 <astruasdh> I bought an HP veer locked to AT&T
Nov 12 00:54:31 <astruasdh> i put manu times the wrong unBlock code (yes, unBlock, not unLock)
Nov 12 00:54:47 <astruasdh> I received the unlock code from AT&T but it is not working: "PIN incorrect, please, try again".
Nov 12 00:54:52 <astruasdh> What can I do?
Nov 12 00:55:40 <EricBlade> astruasdh: hmm. i don't know how to help you on that, but i would like to know how to convince AT&T to give you the code.  I pointed out that legally, it was a requirement for them to do so, and they still refused.
Nov 12 01:09:16 <astruasdh> EricBlade: I dont know what to do
Nov 12 01:09:34 <astruasdh> I am 3 days working in this, with no solution... I am stuck
Nov 12 01:10:43 <wrea> astruasdh, you try this yet: http://dogber1.blogspot.com/2011/07/unlocker-for-palm-pre-gsm-phones.html
Nov 12 01:12:05 <astruasdh> wrea: I dont want my mobile to be with malwares... do you think is it safe to do this?
Nov 12 01:14:35 <wrea> yeah, its fine
Nov 12 01:20:31 <astruasdh> thanks =)
Nov 12 01:21:12 <rwhitby> astruasdh: it's python scripts - you can read them to check for malware first
Nov 12 01:21:33 <rwhitby> it's also GPL. malware folks don't usually release the source code of their trojans as GPL
Nov 12 01:21:38 <astruasdh> I did this.. but there is a shipped .bin that stores data in the phone
Nov 12 01:21:47 <VICODANAX> rwhitby figured it out
Nov 12 01:21:55 <VICODANAX> had to reset everything and run the setup wizard
Nov 12 01:22:00 <VICODANAX> everything working good now on 3.0.2
Nov 12 01:22:01 <VICODANAX> thank you
Nov 12 01:22:25 <astruasdh> is it possible to do a power reset in the phone to turne it back to the pristine state?
Nov 12 01:23:16 <VICODANAX> i believe that's in device info
Nov 12 01:23:18 <VICODANAX> reset options
Nov 12 01:23:41 <VICODANAX> also webos doctor
Nov 12 01:24:01 <astruasdh> my phone do not boot! it is stuck in the first screen
Nov 12 01:24:10 <VICODANAX> use webos doctor
Nov 12 01:24:30 <astruasdh> but I dont have access to webos! I am stuck in the screen to create the palm profile
Nov 12 01:24:35 <VICODANAX> yes.
Nov 12 01:24:37 <VICODANAX> you use a pc
Nov 12 01:24:39 <VICODANAX> and run webos doctor
Nov 12 01:24:45 <astruasdh> hmmm
Nov 12 01:24:51 <VICODANAX> what you got
Nov 12 01:24:54 <VICODANAX> windows or mac or linux
Nov 12 01:25:10 <VICODANAX>  http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:MetaDoctor
Nov 12 01:25:13 <VICODANAX> read this fully
Nov 12 01:25:17 <VICODANAX> and do not bypass activation
Nov 12 01:25:41 <VICODANAX> sorry do not bypass setup wizard
Nov 12 01:26:33 <astruasdh> thanks
Nov 12 01:26:55 <VICODANAX> no problem sir
Nov 12 01:26:57 <VICODANAX> what OS are you on
Nov 12 01:27:10 <VICODANAX> on your computer
Nov 12 01:27:12 <VICODANAX> not your phone
Nov 12 01:28:44 <astruasdh> I have all of them here
Nov 12 01:28:51 <VICODANAX> use ubuntu
Nov 12 01:28:51 <astruasdh> it will not be a problem hehe
Nov 12 01:28:54 <VICODANAX> easiest way
Nov 12 01:28:58 <VICODANAX> i did it on mac
Nov 12 01:29:00 <VICODANAX> it was a nightmare
Nov 12 01:29:24 <rwhitby> astruasdh: what precentral WebOS Internals forum thread or wiki page are you following?
Nov 12 01:29:40 <EricBlade> The autho of "Mechinal Refernce chart's" needs a spell checker.
Nov 12 01:29:43 <astruasdh> I am following nothing
Nov 12 01:29:46 <EricBlade> apparently so do i.
Nov 12 01:29:53 <rwhitby> astruasdh: why not?
Nov 12 01:29:57 <astruasdh> I have only a fucked cellphone that does not boot
Nov 12 01:30:15 <rwhitby> astruasdh: do you think you are the first to do what you are doing?
Nov 12 01:30:27 <VICODANAX> rwhitby: i just linked him to your wiki
Nov 12 01:30:41 <astruasdh> no... VICODANAX told me a link to solve my problem
Nov 12 01:31:34 <astruasdh> as I noticed, web os doctor is from HP itself... isnt it?
Nov 12 01:31:46 <rwhitby> yes
Nov 12 01:31:54 <VICODANAX> yes
Nov 12 01:32:09 <VICODANAX> however rwhitby created metadoctor which has some nice tweaks
Nov 12 01:32:44 <VICODANAX> rwhitby: i ran metadoctor and i had to reset my device because i set bypass setup wizard, are all my tweaks from meta-doctor gone? like usb networking, usb debugging, etc?
Nov 12 01:33:16 <astruasdh> to solve my problem, do I need rwhitby app or the webos is ok?
Nov 12 01:33:46 <VICODANAX> astruasdh: webos doctor by itself but rwhitby's meta-doctor has some nice tweaks. read the wiki.
Nov 12 01:33:52 <VICODANAX> and read the Makefile.
Nov 12 01:34:10 <astruasdh> thank you! if you save my phone I will send you some brazilian girls
Nov 12 01:34:10 <astruasdh> hehe
Nov 12 01:34:18 <VICODANAX> no problem sir.
Nov 12 01:34:29 <VICODANAX> send them to rwhitby not me.
Nov 12 01:34:36 <astruasdh> to both of you
Nov 12 01:34:44 <EricBlade> send one to me and my gf as well
Nov 12 01:34:50 <rwhitby> a donation to WebOS Internals will suffice
Nov 12 01:34:57 <VICODANAX> lol
Nov 12 01:35:04 <astruasdh> rwhitby: sure I will
Nov 12 01:35:12 <VICODANAX> rwhitby: are you the mastermind behind webos internals?
Nov 12 01:35:27 <rwhitby> I am the founder and lead.  There are 15 core developers.
Nov 12 01:35:34 <VICODANAX> congrats man
Nov 12 01:35:41 <VICODANAX> thanks for making my touchpad so much better
Nov 12 01:35:51 <VICODANAX> you do good work.
Nov 12 01:36:03 <VICODANAX> i have to get preware back on my touchpad now
Nov 12 01:36:04 <VICODANAX> heheh
Nov 12 01:36:15 <VICODANAX> i will be making a donation as well
Nov 12 01:36:32 <VICODANAX> did you get my note about metadoctor?
Nov 12 01:37:15 <rwhitby> the webOS Doctor resets most things. You need to make sure the doctor you create has the correct options.
Nov 12 01:37:22 <VICODANAX> yes
Nov 12 01:37:25 <VICODANAX> im saying
Nov 12 01:37:51 <VICODANAX> i bypassed the setup wizard
Nov 12 01:37:56 <VICODANAX> and i was screwed
Nov 12 01:37:57 <astruasdh> does webos doctor resets the fucking lock put by at&t?
Nov 12 01:38:05 <VICODANAX> astruasdh: no.
Nov 12 01:38:12 <rwhitby> astruasdh: please keep the language in this channel PG
Nov 12 01:38:34 <astruasdh> sorry... if my phone is blocked, can webos doctor save me?
Nov 12 01:38:48 <astruasdh> I am completely lost, sorry guys
Nov 12 01:38:55 <rwhitby> the webOS Doctor has nothing to do with carrier locking
Nov 12 01:39:08 <VICODANAX> webos doctor resets to factory settings astruasdh
Nov 12 01:39:14 <astruasdh> nice
Nov 12 01:39:42 <rwhitby> the webOS Doctor cannot change carrier locking or blocking
Nov 12 01:39:50 <astruasdh> but if I tried more than 5 times the code with wrong value, at&t told me my phone had no solution. can webdoctor reset it to same state as I bought it?
Nov 12 01:39:58 <VICODANAX> rwhitby: BYPASS_FIRST_USE_APP  should not be enabled on touchpad imho.
Nov 12 01:40:02 <rwhitby> I say again, the webOS Doctor cannot change carrier locking or blocking.
Nov 12 01:40:23 <astruasdh> rwhitby: hmmm I am carrier blocked. is ther something to do?
Nov 12 01:40:31 <VICODANAX> google it.
Nov 12 01:40:34 <rwhitby> VICODANAX: the choice of which options to use is up to the user
Nov 12 01:41:06 <VICODANAX> rwhitby: i understand. but a note saying this is bad on touchpads would be nice. after i ran meta doctor with that option i could not login to my palm profile.
Nov 12 01:41:08 <rwhitby> astruasdh: you need a carrier unblocking solution. the webOS doctor has nothing to do with what you need.
Nov 12 01:41:21 <astruasdh> actually I dont know what do I have. I boot the phone and see the "create palm profile" screen. if I clock in the small phone for the emergency call, it appears: "enter unblock code"
Nov 12 01:41:21 <VICODANAX> rwhitby: i opened "Accounts" and nothing happened.
Nov 12 01:41:35 <VICODANAX> astruasdh: creat a palm profile.
Nov 12 01:41:39 <VICODANAX> or login.
Nov 12 01:41:47 <rwhitby> "doctor, it hurts when I do this" "then don't do that"
Nov 12 01:42:00 <astruasdh> VICODANAX: I cant... it does not connect to the 3g network
Nov 12 01:42:07 <VICODANAX> rwhitby: is it really that much a big deal to put a warning?
Nov 12 01:42:27 <VICODANAX> astruasdh: use wifi.
Nov 12 01:42:30 <rwhitby> VICODANAX: there are cases when it is the right thing to do on a touchpad
Nov 12 01:42:40 <astruasdh> VICODANAX: how? there is no options for this
Nov 12 01:42:44 <VICODANAX> rwhitby: can i have 1 example?
Nov 12 01:42:53 <VICODANAX> astruasdh: i dont know. i have a touchpad. go google it.
Nov 12 01:43:06 <astruasdh> ty
Nov 12 01:43:09 <VICODANAX> np
Nov 12 01:43:12 <VICODANAX> sorry i cant help more.
Nov 12 01:43:27 <rwhitby> VICODANAX: yes, for example if you want to use Impostah to activate to bypass the geo-restrictions that may occur in some cases.
Nov 12 01:43:46 <VICODANAX> rwhitby: ok, good enough.
Nov 12 01:43:51 <VICODANAX> ill shutup now
Nov 12 01:44:01 <VICODANAX> im really new to webos so i thought i didnt need it.
Nov 12 01:44:32 <astruasdh> besides googling, what do you recomend me? VICODANAX  rwhitby
Nov 12 01:44:39 <astruasdh> I googled it a lot, and found nothing
Nov 12 01:44:51 <VICODANAX> www.precentral.net
Nov 12 01:44:59 <VICODANAX> search and make a thread if you cant find anything
Nov 12 01:45:17 <astruasdh> thanks
Nov 12 01:45:20 <VICODANAX> np.
Nov 12 01:45:29 <astruasdh> so, for my case, meta doctor cannot help me... can it?
Nov 12 01:45:36 <VICODANAX> probably not
Nov 12 01:45:40 <VICODANAX> sounds like webos is booting.
Nov 12 01:45:49 <rwhitby> I say for the fourth time, the webOS Doctor cannot change carrier locking or blocking.
Nov 12 01:45:58 <VICODANAX> lol
Nov 12 01:46:03 <VICODANAX> seriously listen to rwhitby
Nov 12 01:47:08 * rwhitby bbl
Nov 12 01:47:18 <astruasdh> do you think dogber solution can help me?
Nov 12 01:47:30 <VICODANAX> later rwhitby
Nov 12 01:47:42 <VICODANAX> astruasdh: i dont know man. make a thread. this is a dev channel.
Nov 12 01:47:48 <VICODANAX> or go to #webos-general and ask
Nov 12 01:47:55 <astruasdh> thanks
Nov 12 01:57:22 <EricBlade> lol the App Catalog has reviews. everyone bitching about the apps.
Nov 12 02:02:53 <EricBlade> wth my touchpad that has been on the charger all day just dumped 50% battery in a few minutes
Nov 12 02:03:38 <wrea> ouch
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