**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Nov 20 02:59:58 2011
Nov 20 03:11:48 <Tibfib_> haeffb: I of course amm
Nov 20 03:12:21 <haeffb> Tibfib_: sugardave may have given up
Nov 20 03:15:04 <Tibfib_> he's probably drinking away his problems
Nov 20 03:22:15 <Tibfib_> poops
Nov 20 03:23:28 <EricBlade> is there a way to turn on num-lock on the pre keyboard?
Nov 20 03:25:49 <Tibfib_> programmatically?
Nov 20 03:27:53 <Tibfib_> because there is a way to have a text field open for numbers… try webos101.com
Nov 20 03:31:13 <rwatkins> autoKeyModifier
Nov 20 03:31:30 <rwatkins> https://developer.palm.com/content/api/reference/enyo/enyo-api-reference.html#enyo.Input
Nov 20 03:35:15 <haeffb> anyone thinking about a home theater receiver? Amazon has the Pioneer 1021 on sale for $299. Pretty good bargain.
Nov 20 03:58:25 <ramitos> is the palm inspector working with enyo?
Nov 20 04:14:52 <EricBlade> is that like inspector gadget?
Nov 20 04:15:17 <EricBlade> rwatkins: yeah, i discovered that last night, i meant from the keyboard itself
Nov 20 04:15:35 <EricBlade> there are plenty of apps that of course don't do that and it's annoying, or places where i want to type in numbers
Nov 20 04:18:11 <rwatkins> does enyo.keyboard.show(enyo.keyboard.typeNumber) do it?
Nov 20 04:18:21 <rwatkins> otherwise not getting what your trying to accomplish
Nov 20 04:21:06 <haeffb> Tibfib_: congrats.
Nov 20 04:21:13 <haeffb> sugardave: Sorry.
Nov 20 04:29:39 <fxspec06> haeffb - i've used onkyo's my whole life..
Nov 20 04:29:47 <fxspec06> but of course you just left
Nov 20 04:33:20 <EricBlade> i want to know if there's a button combination or hold or something that turns on numlock in any input
Nov 20 04:33:27 <EricBlade> i didn't get a manual
Nov 20 04:34:01 <fxspec06> option key
Nov 20 04:34:07 <fxspec06> you can hold it or click it twice
Nov 20 04:35:10 <dwc-> EricBlade: I have a pre2 and gv
Nov 20 04:37:17 <siestacat> Rwhitby
Nov 20 04:37:39 * Tibfib_ bows
Nov 20 04:39:03 * fxspec06 puts popcorn in the mic
Nov 20 04:39:24 <wrea> lol
Nov 20 04:40:09 <siestacat> Hey
Nov 20 04:40:34 <siestacat> I still can't get webos to boot to anything I can run novaterm in
Nov 20 04:40:47 <siestacat> Even with the installer image rwhitby
Nov 20 04:43:21 <fxspec06> did you uhm... follow the steps on the how to recover wiki
Nov 20 04:43:25 <fxspec06> word for word?
Nov 20 04:50:54 <siestacat> Yes
Nov 20 04:51:15 <siestacat> I can't get it t boot installer image
Nov 20 05:22:13 <PatrickC> rwatkins, ping
Nov 20 05:25:09 <rwatkins> ya
Nov 20 05:25:37 <PatrickC> does Paper Mache support cross-launch?
Nov 20 05:25:42 <rwatkins> yes
Nov 20 05:25:51 <PatrickC> I have people requesting integration for Project Macaw
Nov 20 05:26:05 <rwatkins> :)
Nov 20 05:26:32 <PatrickC> They said they want "Instapaper Support" and i read that as "Paper Mache" :)
Nov 20 05:26:34 <rwatkins> http://www.ryanwatkins.net/software/papermache/faq.html#a5
Nov 20 05:26:57 <rwatkins> you can cross launch with 'add' and pass url, title, description and content.
Nov 20 05:27:10 <rwatkins> if you cross launch Paper Mache you dont need to ask the user for credentials.
Nov 20 05:27:18 <PatrickC> nice
Nov 20 05:27:27 <rwatkins> if you direclty integrate Instapaper you need to ask for credentials to login
Nov 20 05:27:28 <PatrickC> i think cross launching with paper mache is the way to go
Nov 20 05:27:55 <PatrickC> so, do I email or ask here? :P
Nov 20 05:28:56 <rwatkins> thats pretty much it - look at other cross launch code and pass those params
Nov 20 05:30:14 <dwc-> don't forget to try to integrate rwatkins's other favorite instapaper client
Nov 20 05:31:59 <PatrickC> dwc-, other favorite? :P
Nov 20 05:32:13 <PatrickC> rwatkins, is paper mache available on all webOS devices yet?
Nov 20 05:32:40 <rwatkins> Beta yes, Production is submitted yesterday.
Nov 20 05:32:59 <PatrickC> ok cool
Nov 20 05:33:05 <PatrickC> same appid?
Nov 20 05:33:26 <rwatkins> same app id on all devices - same code.
Nov 20 05:33:34 <PatrickC> ok good
Nov 20 05:33:35 <PatrickC> thanks
Nov 20 05:33:40 <PatrickC> ill keep u updated
Nov 20 05:34:07 <rwatkins> which reminds me i need to work on the 'share' cross launch - there is now more than one possible twitter client.
Nov 20 05:37:41 <rwatkins> Atleast there is another Read Later client now that caches offline, but ... ugh.
Nov 20 05:39:10 <rwatkins> after those bitchy precentral forum messages I'm half tempted to just rewrite the API part Paper Mache to do ReadItLater and release that version as a free app.
Nov 20 05:39:44 <EdLin> rwatkins do it! :)
Nov 20 05:40:34 <PatrickC> lol
Nov 20 05:40:37 <PatrickC> night all
Nov 20 05:40:46 <EdLin> night
Nov 20 06:44:18 * DougReeder waves hello
Nov 20 07:20:11 <EricBlade> well, I've been beating the hell out of the webos101 wiki for a while .. http://webos101.com/Category:Enyo
Nov 20 07:22:10 <Eearslya> Where's the old SDK download for 2.1.0?
Nov 20 07:40:20 <EricBlade> new SDK is compatible
Nov 20 07:40:53 <EricBlade> but if you do need the old one for some reason, i don't know, sorry
Nov 20 07:57:25 <Eearslya> EricBlade: Anything in the new SDK that is incompatible with 2.1.0?
Nov 20 07:58:18 <EricBlade> i'm really not very familiar with anything other than the TouchPad, sorry :)
Nov 20 07:58:36 <EricBlade> i've just managed to get my app running and built for 1.x/2.x thanks to HP making the Maps update available
Nov 20 07:59:40 <Eearslya> Ah.
Nov 20 07:59:51 <ioNull> hi, all. how to use my own module of node.js on webOS(IMPORTS.require('./test') is not working)
Nov 20 08:44:01 <EricBlade> i want to say it's either imports.require() or just require()
Nov 20 08:44:12 <EricBlade> not real sure, though, i don't get into the node stuff
Nov 20 08:45:36 <ioNull> hmm, require is native node way, IMPORTS.require is webOS way
Nov 20 08:46:29 <ioNull> EricBlade, IMPORTS.require('http') works but not working when I tried to require my module
Nov 20 08:46:43 <EricBlade> oh sorry
Nov 20 08:47:16 <ioNull> EricBlade, thanks anyway
Nov 20 08:47:17 <EricBlade> this is a pretty dead time of day in this chat, you might want to ask on the dev forum
Nov 20 08:47:31 <ioNull> hmm, I've
Nov 20 08:47:43 <EricBlade> it'll be a miracle if i ever figure this stuff out enough to get to it
Nov 20 08:49:09 <ioNull> I'm trying to use amqp with node.js on webOS.. AND pending at this point..T-T
Nov 20 11:34:25 <PaNeL> hello
Nov 20 11:56:40 <ioNull> hi
Nov 20 13:35:59 <fxspec06> oi
Nov 20 13:48:27 <Freman> update minecraft... lose 10 hours
Nov 20 18:01:56 <ramitos> i everyone
Nov 20 18:02:52 <ramitos> if there is someone that was able to implement oauth with a iframe, i could really use some help :s
Nov 20 18:12:49 <siestacat> any application to play FLACs?
Nov 20 18:35:20 <ramitos> is it just me, or the webview url doesn't updated as user navigates?
Nov 20 18:35:46 <ramitos> :S
Nov 20 18:39:25 <ramitos> I could really usa some help on this :S
Nov 20 19:41:38 * halfhalo yawns
Nov 20 21:26:49 <EricBlade> rwatkins: don't know if this necessarily even applies to the Enyo speed issues on Pre, but according to Chrome, when scrolling one of my lists, a function called "enyo.dispatch" is taking up the vast majority of time, starting in a chain called by "enyo.kind.dispatchDomEvent".
Nov 20 21:28:00 <EricBlade> on Chrome, that chain appears to be taking up 0.6% cpu, whereas all the other functions being called combined don't add up to 0.6%
Nov 20 22:04:16 <fxspec06> EricBlade: have you considered the possibility that that is the enyo kind manager?
Nov 20 22:04:45 <fxspec06> as in, the process that computes and creates the dom elements via enyo...
Nov 20 22:15:45 <Eearslya> How can I stretch out an image without having it blurred? The picture is supposed to look pixelated.
Nov 20 22:17:46 <fxspec06> do it in photoshop beforehand
Nov 20 22:17:48 <fxspec06> ?
Nov 20 22:43:44 <rwatkins> EricBlade: I find on the Pre I find it not to be generally slow, but just that certain things trigger a big perf hit
Nov 20 22:44:11 <rwatkins> also see some oddness related to hardware accell I think - like in a scroller rounded corners disappear after scrolling a chunk.
Nov 20 22:44:36 <rwatkins> I suspect after exactly 4096px :)
Nov 21 00:14:58 <programmerq> so I'm trying to find the right google terms, but on my touchpad I noticed an extra "button" that turned out to be a little tab that pops out and has the serial number on it. it doesn'm seem to come all the way out. wth is this?
Nov 21 00:15:21 <programmerq> a leftover component that was slotted to take a sim card?
Nov 21 00:15:38 <programmerq> maybe a place where the modding community could hack in a microsd card reader?
Nov 21 00:16:01 <wrea> thats where the sim card would go otherwise
Nov 21 00:19:14 <programmerq> and only some touchpads support sim cards? I don't recall anything about a radio for this one.
Nov 21 00:29:39 <fxspec06> programmerq: yep that's where the sim card would go
Nov 21 00:29:44 <fxspec06> there are 4g touchpads out there
Nov 21 00:30:10 <fxspec06> they put a slot into every one, but the normal pad does not have the comm board
Nov 21 00:30:27 <fxspec06> therefore it's a non-functioning port
Nov 21 00:30:40 <Tibfib_> oh I didn't even know all touchpads had a slot
Nov 21 00:31:57 <fxspec06> lol, yeah go look. mine does too, i saw it but never tried to use it
Nov 21 00:32:20 <fxspec06> every single one pops out. lol. i thought it was like glued and stuck but one day someone mentioned it in here and i tried it
Nov 21 00:40:34 <Tibfib_> I've got it!
Nov 21 00:40:40 <Tibfib_> I know what app I'm gonna make now
Nov 21 00:41:11 <fxspec06> what's that?
Nov 21 00:41:16 <fxspec06> it better be good
Nov 21 00:41:25 <fxspec06> or else i just won't care
Nov 21 00:42:17 <Tibfib_> I'm gonna make a google reader app
Nov 21 00:42:19 <Tibfib_> :)
Nov 21 00:42:26 <Tibfib_> with Jo, and cross platform
Nov 21 00:42:59 <Tibfib_> I have the hard stuff done with my library
Nov 21 00:43:04 <fxspec06> oh sure
Nov 21 00:43:31 <fxspec06> go ahead, use your previous idea and existing code to expand to other platforms. psh.
Nov 21 00:43:38 <Tibfib_> so I should be able to release it for pre3, iOS (if I want to pay) and android
Nov 21 00:43:40 * fxspec06 been there done that =p
Nov 21 00:44:01 <fxspec06> well not done.. more like doing.. so i beat you to the punch
Nov 21 00:44:59 <fxspec06> that's good though, as long as it improves your knowledge and experience it is a positive
Nov 21 02:07:00 <rwhitby> is there a list of paid app countries, and the locales accepted for each, published by Palm anywhere?
Nov 21 02:22:20 <ajay> hey oh!
Nov 21 02:23:56 <wrea> hi
Nov 21 02:29:53 <fxspec06> oi oi!
Nov 21 02:34:36 <dkirker> hello
Nov 21 02:39:30 <Tibfib_> hmm I can't remember that good wireframing website
Nov 21 02:56:46 <ajay> did i read somewhere that the wordpress app broke in 3.0.4, so they stopped dev'ing it??
Nov 21 02:57:25 <ajay> Tibfib_: is it just me or is there no 'mark as unread in nom^3?  (if i already asked this my apologies, i don't remember the answer in that case :)
Nov 21 02:58:46 <Tibfib_> it exists
Nov 21 02:58:57 <Tibfib_> but you have to paypal me $20 to unlock it
Nov 21 02:59:46 <Tibfib_> or ask nicely
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