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Nov 26 05:59:56 * DougReeder waves hello
Nov 26 06:14:47 <EricBlade> hmm. my kindle app won't start
Nov 26 06:15:01 <EricBlade> i don't believe i've ever used it on this installation
Nov 26 06:15:08 <EricBlade> just sits at the load screen forever
Nov 26 06:15:57 <EricBlade> hi doug!
Nov 26 06:16:53 <EricBlade> ... and a reinstall of the kindle app is hanging too. argh.
Nov 26 06:18:37 <DougReeder> Are there free books available through the Kindle app?
Nov 26 06:18:50 <EricBlade> there's a crap ton today ... http://www.amazon.com/s/?node=2279458011
Nov 26 06:22:49 <DougReeder> I guess the question is, are there books I'm interested in?
Nov 26 06:23:15 <DougReeder> I'm just not interested in romances.
Nov 26 06:23:31 <Nilium> God I hate configuring routers
Nov 26 06:23:49 <Nilium> Newest one appears to have a slightly less than function MAC filtering feature
Nov 26 06:25:38 <Shadyman> lol mac filtering
Nov 26 06:25:48 <Shadyman> s/mac/MAC
Nov 26 06:28:34 <DougReeder> You need to restrict the devices that connect?
Nov 26 06:29:40 <EricBlade> there's a few non-romances
Nov 26 06:29:53 <EricBlade> How to Sew. Right next to "CK-12 Calculus".
Nov 26 06:30:09 <EricBlade> bunch of obscure Star Wars novels
Nov 26 06:30:25 <EricBlade> Advanced Probability and Statistics
Nov 26 06:30:43 <EricBlade> some outright porn novels
Nov 26 06:33:19 <DougReeder> Hrm, I already know how to sew.
Nov 26 06:33:34 <EricBlade> Whats New In Java 7
Nov 26 06:34:34 <EricBlade> i hope the kindle app has search abilities
Nov 26 06:34:51 <DougReeder> Hmm, now THAT I could use.
Nov 26 06:34:59 <Nilium> Hm, would someone ping me?
Nov 26 06:36:25 <EricBlade> i think i'm going to need to open a seperate kindle account for my daughter's touchpad, she is -not- getting her hands on this one lol
Nov 26 06:36:36 <EricBlade> since i'm mass downloading the whole set
Nov 26 06:38:28 <EricBlade> ooh, books on Node.js and Android
Nov 26 06:38:46 <DougReeder> Don't want her reading about Java? :-)
Nov 26 06:39:01 <EricBlade> That's pretty porny too
Nov 26 06:39:11 <EricBlade> or at least obscene
Nov 26 06:48:19 <EricBlade> if amazon removes the 1-click option for free items, i apologize in advance
Nov 26 06:57:30 <EricBlade> wow. ebooks that are nothing but collections of lists of other ebooks
Nov 26 07:04:53 <Shadyman> That's so meta.
Nov 26 07:05:27 <EricBlade> so there's not actually a book about javascript, there's a book about books about javascript
Nov 26 07:28:27 <dwc-> I've gotten some 'classics' off amazon
Nov 26 07:28:33 <dwc-> basically they repackaged gutenberg or others
Nov 26 09:25:55 <PaNeL> hello
Nov 26 11:57:49 <ioNull> hey, is it possible to watch changes on service?
Nov 26 14:42:11 * EricBlade whines about never being able to get scrollers to display properly
Nov 26 16:10:21 * Tibfib whines about EricBlade whining
Nov 26 20:23:03 * EricBlade whines about the crazy netsplits that have been happening all weekend
Nov 26 20:23:57 <EricBlade> if there's anyone here that has helped me with any of the questions i've asked over the last couple of months, that i haven't personally thanked, i'd like to do so. thank you everyone.
Nov 26 20:37:24 <leiru> EricBlade: :)
Nov 26 20:37:51 <leiru> EricBlade: your app / project is finished? or are you done with webos?
Nov 26 20:41:02 <EricBlade> nope still here
Nov 26 21:00:18 <dwc-> Subject: Surprise! Your $25 in Z-Bucks Have Arrived!
Nov 26 21:00:25 <dwc-> huh. I didn't even subscribe to anything yet
Nov 26 21:00:46 <dwc-> but zinio sent me credit
Nov 26 22:13:36 * fxspec06 smells zombies
Nov 26 23:12:05 <mscoolnerd> hello all, I have a question. If I wanted to make a webapp and host it on the we using Enyo, would I be allowed to do that?
Nov 26 23:13:25 <EricBlade> not at the moment no
Nov 26 23:16:23 <mscoolnerd> ah, ok. how come?
Nov 26 23:16:48 <EricBlade> because HP doesn't currently allow redistributing Enyo outside of the devices
Nov 26 23:17:25 <mscoolnerd> ahhh ok
Nov 26 23:17:27 <mscoolnerd> thanks
Nov 26 23:17:56 <EricBlade> As the Palm employees are fond of saying, though "stay tuned", because that's something we talk about a lot on the dev forums, and it sounds like it's something they'd really like to do
Nov 26 23:19:03 <mscoolnerd> ah ok. Because that would be awesome for small developers like me because then I could make tablet apps for the Touchpad, iPad, and Android all with one tool
Nov 26 23:19:35 <fxspec06> theoretically, anyways.. o.O android doesn't like my "web app" very much so
Nov 26 23:20:26 <mscoolnerd> fxspec06: why not? :P
Nov 26 23:43:52 <EricBlade> anyone ever try to wrap a SlidingPane with SlidingViews inside another Pane?
Nov 26 23:44:21 <EricBlade> Pane->SlidingPane->(SlidingView1, SlidingView2, ... )
Nov 26 23:50:44 <Tibfib> I think I have
Nov 27 00:43:49 <EricBlade> i've had enoguh of this crap. i am buying a new router tomorrow.
Nov 27 01:03:41 <fxspec06> EricBlade: i think you should buy a new router
Nov 27 01:05:01 <EricBlade> that's a fantastic idea.  unfortunately, it doesn't look like there's a way to knock best buy's online catalog down to "items that may be available in my local store"
Nov 27 01:07:13 <fxspec06> you can look and then see if it's available, one by one, then write down the ones that are and go from there
Nov 27 01:07:46 <fxspec06> can you ajax a best buy search?
Nov 27 01:08:14 <EricBlade> no clue. hmm. i'm late for work.. bbl
Nov 27 02:23:36 <EricBlade> aha, figured out what i was doing wrong with my slider inside a regular pane.  forgot to have a flex:1 on the main container
Nov 27 02:25:48 <EricBlade> i just had a ridiculous and possibly retarded thought.  anyone know where the phone "emulator" thingee is on device?
Nov 27 02:28:13 <mscoolnerd> sorry to interrupt EricBlade, but if I wanted to do a little bit of initialization code at the beginning of my app (set default values, etc) where would that code go in an enyo app?
Nov 27 02:28:50 <mscoolnerd> (like an onLoaded event or something?)
Nov 27 02:30:28 <EricBlade> you could do that in your main kind's created() or ready() functions, though if whatever you're doing has any chance of taking any length of time to do, rendered() is probably a better choice
Nov 27 02:31:26 <EricBlade> or even setting up a nextTick or enyo.asyncEvent from the rendered() function to call your own function on the next javascript tick, so that the app is at least rendered before it starts doing anything that might be time consuming
Nov 27 02:32:16 <mscoolnerd> its just setting some default selections for a list before its rendered...  so it shouldn't take to much time. thanks!
Nov 27 02:32:42 <EricBlade> i really need to reorganize my desk to accommodate all this palm hardware
Nov 27 02:32:57 <mscoolnerd> haha what hardware do you have?
Nov 27 02:33:30 <EricBlade> well on my desk, right now, i have two lcd monitors, 3 speakers, a telephone, a pre-, a pre+, a touchpad, and a eee 900
Nov 27 02:33:47 <EricBlade> and the touchstones for each of those
Nov 27 02:33:51 <EricBlade> and a couple of data cables
Nov 27 02:36:20 <EricBlade> and tomorrow i'm getting another lcd yay!
Nov 27 02:36:57 <EricBlade> then i need to figure out how to rig one of these to stand up portrait mode
Nov 27 02:45:33 <fxspec06> i really need to reorganize my desktop.. actually i really need to make a lot of money so i can get a tri-monitor setup and a new pc
Nov 27 02:57:57 <wrea> tri-monitor plus flight sim would be awesome
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