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Nov 28 03:00:09 <daniel_n> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Palm-Pre-8GB-Black-Sprint-Smartphone-CLEAN-ESN-WIFI-TOUCH-SCREEN-/150707846386?_trksid=p4340.m185&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC.NPJS%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUA%26otn%3D5%26pmod%3D150707473981%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D4504068620185029303#ht_2559wt_1140
Nov 28 03:00:13 <daniel_n> looks like a good deal
Nov 28 03:00:14 <daniel_n> ?
Nov 28 03:01:29 <Shadyman> If you're looking for a Pre-
Nov 28 03:02:44 <daniel_n> looked for a pre+, but dont have a sprint comm board
Nov 28 03:04:39 <Shadyman> frankenpre?
Nov 28 03:04:58 <Shadyman> pre- radio in a pre2 body?
Nov 28 03:07:45 <daniel_n> eh
Nov 28 03:07:52 <daniel_n> pre2's are like 150+
Nov 28 05:29:31 <veku> anyone having prolems playing youtube videos?
Nov 28 08:01:36 <rrix> would having an alarm in the mojo clock application set to a ringtone which was deleted keep the clock applciation from starting?
Nov 28 08:02:06 <rrix> I'm just getting the grey bg + clock logo since forever, been using another app to manually set my alarms but meh
Nov 28 08:02:33 <rrix> That's the only thing I can think of, looking at the app cookies in impostah, but I can't figure out how to delete those alarms
Nov 28 08:10:06 <dwc-> rrix: swipe to delete
Nov 28 08:10:14 <rrix> oh wow, duh
Nov 28 08:10:35 <rrix> dwc-: thanks :)
Nov 28 08:12:51 <rrix> actually that doesn't appear to be working for me; I've tried swiping a few different things now
Nov 28 08:18:20 <panel> hello
Nov 28 13:15:48 <panel> hello
Nov 28 13:15:55 <panel> what a silence
Nov 28 13:16:02 <panel> what's new ?
Nov 28 13:24:13 * rwhitby is working on awesome new stuff
Nov 28 13:25:23 * rwhitby bbt
Nov 28 13:47:38 <ioNull> no push and no longtime service.. wtf
Nov 28 16:22:40 <stbuehler> uff, novacom port-forwarding is really broken
Nov 28 17:36:08 <chuqui> happy monday after turkey holiday here in the us day, y'all.
Nov 28 17:36:41 <RagingMind> yum... turkey
Nov 28 17:38:07 <halfhalo> turkeyturkeyturkey!
Nov 28 17:38:50 <oilsworkn> ... coma
Nov 28 17:55:02 <dwc-> must hurry... 46000 of 50000 of those newegg discount things used already
Nov 28 17:55:02 <akanster> chuqui: that would be cyber monday!
Nov 28 17:55:19 <akanster> dwc-: I just completed my purchase :)
Nov 28 17:56:10 <oilsworkn> newegg discount things?
Nov 28 17:56:12 <dwc-> I had to add a new cc... and google offers has no UI where to tell you to do that. terrible ui
Nov 28 17:56:21 <dwc-> google offers, $20 for $40 of newegg
Nov 28 17:56:49 <oilsworkn> ohh
Nov 28 17:58:24 <dwc-> Purchases
Nov 28 17:58:24 <dwc-> 48,953 of 50,000 available
Nov 28 17:58:34 <dwc-> phew
Nov 28 17:58:38 <dwc-> typed fast enough
Nov 28 18:00:12 <dwc-> aaand gone
Nov 28 18:00:18 <dwc-> so I made it by maybe 2 minutes
Nov 28 18:15:04 <oilsworkn> so what did you buy?
Nov 28 18:16:13 <dwc-> haven't spent it yet.
Nov 28 18:16:21 <oilsworkn> oh
Nov 28 18:16:29 <dwc-> I'm in the market for a power supply though
Nov 28 18:17:03 <oilsworkn> need more power?
Nov 28 18:18:55 <akanster> he needs a flux capacitor
Nov 28 18:19:08 <dwc-> let me put it this way... my current desktop is a dell sc420 tower server with a netburst p4 xeon
Nov 28 18:19:38 <dwc-> and my friend dumped his Q6600 on me when he upgraded to an i7-950
Nov 28 18:19:52 <oilsworkn> lol
Nov 28 18:20:19 <dwc-> so I'm making a cheap gaming rig
Nov 28 18:21:10 <oilsworkn> ah
Nov 28 18:21:22 <dwc-> hadn't been anything compelling enough I wanted to play to buy all of cpu/mb/ram/vid card/ps
Nov 28 18:21:43 <dwc-> but since it's just vid card and psu...
Nov 28 20:06:10 <nico_32_vserver> hi
Nov 28 20:06:37 <nico_32_vserver> i was lurking around git.webos-internals.org
Nov 28 20:06:46 <nico_32_vserver> and i just found
Nov 28 20:06:57 <nico_32_vserver> the last commit to preware (e5dfbf30928ecf1a7a0d452955d69daf3b64adc2)
Nov 28 20:07:08 <nico_32_vserver> + "--user-agent Preware --insecure -H \"Device-Id: %s\" -H \"Auth-Token: %s\"",
Nov 28 20:07:47 <nico_32_vserver> --insecure is a bad idea on a smartphone
Nov 28 20:07:58 <nico_32_vserver> and a very very bad idea on the touchpad
Nov 28 20:08:21 <nico_32_vserver> i believe evilgrade will got a Preware target
Nov 28 20:09:32 <cryptk> that is for development for SSL feeds
Nov 28 20:09:40 <cryptk> this is the wrong channel for that anyway
Nov 28 20:09:45 <cryptk> should be in webot-internals
Nov 28 20:09:52 <cryptk> or #webos-internals even
Nov 28 20:10:01 <nico_32_vserver> will join
Nov 28 21:13:36 <dawm> anyone need a cheap 10" netbook?
Nov 28 21:13:37 <dawm> http://moofi.woot.com/moofi/realdoll
Nov 28 21:13:54 <dawm> ignore the goofy URL :P $189+$5shipping
Nov 28 21:16:41 <Hendikins> I'd consider it if it had a bonus HP TouchPad...
Nov 28 21:32:22 <rwhitby> nico_32_vserver: yes, that will be fixed today.
Nov 28 22:56:14 <chandoo> hi
Nov 28 22:56:48 <chandoo> i installed tbaccess from preware
Nov 28 22:56:58 <chandoo> when i run tbaccess.jar i am getting errors
Nov 28 22:57:04 <chandoo> how to run that .jar file
Nov 28 23:09:15 <fxspec06> you need java to run jar files
Nov 28 23:10:31 <Tibfib> lies
Nov 28 23:12:23 <Tibfib> fxspec06 is just trying to hold you back
Nov 28 23:13:44 <fxspec06> the cake is a lie << this statement is false
Nov 28 23:57:59 <EricBlade> Everything I say is a lie.
Nov 29 00:00:43 <dwc-> at least you're consistent
Nov 29 00:04:19 <EricBlade> hmm.  any time i specify a height or max-height for an image in a enyo.Image, it doesn't display. grr.
Nov 29 00:06:27 <fxspec06> you're a liar. lying
Nov 29 00:07:07 <fxspec06> put it in a vbox w/ layoutkind:vflexlayout
Nov 29 00:09:02 <EricBlade> hmm. works if i don't specify a width as well.  grr. want a specific size.
Nov 29 00:13:23 <fxspec06> maybe it doesn't stretch
Nov 29 00:13:44 <fxspec06> only accepts correct aspect ratio?
Nov 29 00:17:34 * EricBlade shrugs i'll figger somethin out
Nov 29 00:38:51 <PatrickC> how is everyone tonight?
Nov 29 00:43:11 <wrea> bleh
Nov 29 00:43:23 <wrea> Pulse problems for no reason
Nov 29 00:45:14 <PatrickC> that doesnt sound fun
Nov 29 00:45:36 <wrea> no, no it doesnt
Nov 29 00:46:12 <Shadyman> Usually we call 911 for pulse problems
Nov 29 00:46:14 <Shadyman> just sayin'
Nov 29 00:46:23 <Shadyman> tried CPR?
Nov 29 00:46:26 * PatrickC goes to get some UI fixed up in Macaw
Nov 29 00:46:35 <PatrickC> wrea, yeah, have u called 911?
Nov 29 00:47:25 <wrea> If I try CPR my case will crack and it hasnt so far, so im not chancing it :P
Nov 29 00:47:43 <PatrickC> case? lol
Nov 29 00:48:39 <fxspec06> Shadyman: cpr doesn't work very well unless you're certified. wouldn't risk a lawsuit
Nov 29 00:48:57 <wrea> I've been avoiding doctoring it, but i guess i might have to
Nov 29 00:49:08 <wrea> I was certified...at one point
Nov 29 01:05:24 <PatrickC> would you use custom bit.ly support (like, your own keys/etc so you can track everything) in a twitter app?
Nov 29 01:12:16 * EricBlade does something silly, and lays out the GUI for an app before actually writing it
Nov 29 01:13:12 <cryptk> EricBlade, that isn't silly
Nov 29 01:13:22 <cryptk> I do it when I design websites all the time
Nov 29 01:13:38 <cryptk> get a non-working flat HTML version so I can "see" it... then start adding the "make it work" part
Nov 29 01:14:00 <EricBlade> yeah i tend to do things bass aackwards because i'm a programmer not a designer
Nov 29 01:14:19 <EricBlade> well i did get the basic parts of the app functioning first, but now i'm rewriting the entire GUI from scratch before I put any function into it
Nov 29 01:14:34 <cryptk> I think that it is actually a smart way to do it... too many developers focus on the "nuts and bolts" and end up with a product that is functionally flawless, and full of features... but look like crap and is a PITA to use
Nov 29 01:15:12 <PatrickC> EricBlade, gvoice?
Nov 29 01:15:20 <EricBlade> no this is a SubSonic controller
Nov 29 01:15:24 <PatrickC> ah
Nov 29 01:15:26 <cryptk> my friend describes it as the "hookers first" way of programming
Nov 29 01:15:33 <cryptk> make it pretty and fun first
Nov 29 01:15:34 * PatrickC goes back to macaw
Nov 29 01:15:38 <PatrickC> cryptk, haha
Nov 29 01:27:32 <EricBlade> actually, if i can shake out this one bug i'm going to put up an ipk and solicit opinions
Nov 29 01:36:47 <PatrickC> lol
Nov 29 01:37:07 <PatrickC> if i could figure out why my app is having a tough time calling pushScene, ill be doing good
Nov 29 01:38:02 <PatrickC> if i try to call pushScene from outside of the assistants folder, why would it not work?
Nov 29 01:44:45 * Tibfib cries
Nov 29 01:45:21 <PatrickC> Tibfib, ive never dealt with files outside of the assistant folder for things like this
Nov 29 01:46:23 <EricBlade> hmm. putting Dialogs inside Panes is problematic
Nov 29 01:55:59 <EricBlade> wth.. i managed to get a pane that you can apparently position anywhere
Nov 29 01:56:07 <EricBlade> but not really when you want to
Nov 29 01:57:04 <EricBlade> ohh a dismissible pane.. can be dismissed.. and then brought back on screen anywhere you want to put it.
Nov 29 01:57:06 <EricBlade> ugh
Nov 29 01:57:33 <EricBlade> and when you do that, it goes over the top of the lower pane, instead of to the side.
Nov 29 01:59:18 <EricBlade> that's... ridiculous
Nov 29 02:03:45 <Brybry> pains within panes
Nov 29 02:07:29 <Shadyman> Yo dawg
Nov 29 02:12:00 <fxspec06> yo dawg i heard u like panes. so we put panes in your panes so you can get pains while paning your panes. #ridiculous
Nov 29 02:13:59 <EricBlade> well, if anyone wants to have a look and let me know whatcha think .. http://www.ericbla.de/com.ericblade.xotest.ipk
Nov 29 02:15:06 <fxspec06> what is with that icon
Nov 29 02:15:11 <fxspec06> it's amazing
Nov 29 02:18:36 <EricBlade> icon?
Nov 29 02:29:41 <fxspec06> yeah your icon for xo
Nov 29 02:29:47 <fxspec06> it's the best i've ever seen
Nov 29 02:36:10 <EricBlade> :D
Nov 29 02:41:05 <EricBlade> any other feedback to give? haha
Nov 29 02:43:44 <ChaoWang> test
Nov 29 02:47:08 <EricBlade> tested
Nov 29 02:48:52 <ChaoWang> Sorry, my 'test' is meant to send to this channel
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