**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Dec 07 02:59:57 2011
Dec 07 03:26:12 <Tibfib_> bah
Dec 07 03:26:25 <akanster> humbug
Dec 07 03:49:49 <fxspec06> merry
Dec 07 04:24:55 <akanster> christmas
Dec 07 04:27:56 <akanster> whoa... new xbox dashboard is here
Dec 07 04:28:39 <rwhitby> on webOS? cool.
Dec 07 04:29:02 <akanster> heh
Dec 07 04:35:16 <dwc-> isn't that a great christmas gift?
Dec 07 04:37:26 <VICODANAX> xbox sucks
Dec 07 07:42:31 * EricBlade1 wakes up
Dec 07 08:51:49 <EricBlade> hmm. when my daughter's touchpad starts up, it asks to allow "the following application" access to location .. with no application name.
Dec 07 08:53:59 <EricBlade> question.. do beta catalog apps auto-sense updates like normal apps?
Dec 07 09:06:37 <rwhitby> EricBlade: I expect they would, but not sure.
Dec 07 09:07:15 <dwc-> they used to, at least iirc
Dec 07 09:07:42 <rwhitby> it goes through a different API from the app search, so it should do
Dec 07 09:08:07 <rwhitby> (e.g. for updates to private beta apps)
Dec 07 09:08:08 <dwc-> but, I uhh, don't discover new apps in beta feeds that are early in dev and see updates so much anymore
Dec 07 09:08:23 <dwc-> s/feeds/catalog/
Dec 07 09:10:35 <EricBlade> and i'm thinking it would be best to use a different app id for beta than for the regular catalog?
Dec 07 09:11:40 <rwhitby> EricBlade: I believe you are forced to
Dec 07 10:09:04 <EricBlade1> er.. it's opt-shift-P for a screenshot on pre right?
Dec 07 10:11:06 <EricBlade> ah, no, opt-sym-p
Dec 07 11:06:40 <panel> hello
Dec 07 11:12:11 <madnificent> hello panel
Dec 07 11:14:02 <EricBlade> hmm. my pre is refusing to display pictures in any app.  they show and then disappear.
Dec 07 11:15:48 <madnificent> sounds nasty EricBlade
Dec 07 11:23:06 <madnificent> EricBlade: does dmesg show you anything error-like?  you can only hope that it's a library which somehow got corrupted (assuming you rebooted already) and that doctoring helps... but it's a far-fetched guess
Dec 07 11:23:37 <EricBlade> i'm guessing that it's some sort of cache screwup
Dec 07 11:25:12 <EricBlade> wow the bluetooth connection to my touchpad is made before the kernel boot messages are even off the screen
Dec 07 17:01:48 <panel> so quiet :)
Dec 07 17:08:42 <wrea> yeah
Dec 07 17:10:10 <fxspec06> mhm
Dec 07 17:34:19 <HattCzech_work> vewy quiet
Dec 07 17:35:44 <fxspec06> someone must be hunting wabbit
Dec 07 17:36:35 <panel> :))
Dec 07 19:25:22 <Tommy> anyone want a pixi?
Dec 07 19:58:45 <fxspec06> hmm. i think my work is nearly done
Dec 07 20:14:20 <NuttyBunny> I envy you
Dec 07 20:14:26 <NuttyBunny> I want to finish as well
Dec 07 20:17:22 <NuttyBunny> Oh webOS gods, I summon you!!! Is there a luna-send command to force a messaging login to all accounts at once?
Dec 07 20:22:57 <fxspec06> i've been working hard at this project for uhm
Dec 07 20:23:03 <fxspec06> for quite a while now.
Dec 07 20:59:48 <EricBlade1> wow looks like the app catalog exploded last night/today
Dec 07 21:20:34 <dwc-> http://techcrunch.com/2011/12/07/hp-touchpad-ebay/
Dec 07 21:20:55 <dwc-> firesale priced touchpads to return, but refurbs
Dec 07 21:21:40 <fxspec06> anyone know anything about git / phonegap / unfuddle
Dec 07 21:22:08 <fxspec06> basically i can't get phonegap to recognize my git url
Dec 07 21:22:20 <fxspec06> and i have no idea what i'm doing
Dec 07 21:32:20 <EricBlade> 1.4.5 browser does not redirect catalog urls to the catalog app?
Dec 07 21:35:41 <dawm> it does
Dec 07 21:36:02 <EricBlade> hmm. i just tried two, and it took me to the web page version
Dec 07 21:36:22 <dawm> http://bit.ly/swapndrop
Dec 07 21:36:30 <dawm> should take you to the catalog
Dec 07 21:36:53 <dawm> i think i had that setup
Dec 07 21:37:29 <EricBlade> hmm. it does.
Dec 07 21:38:17 <dawm> http://www.shopping.hp.com/can/computer/categories/touchpad/1/accessories?jumpid=re_r11694_webos_cta_psg_nov2011_accessories
Dec 07 21:38:20 <dawm> lots of new cases
Dec 07 21:38:24 <dawm> and beats headphones
Dec 07 21:38:31 <dawm> and touchstone
Dec 07 21:38:45 <EricBlade> hmm. must be the httpS that it doesn't connect to or somethin
Dec 07 21:38:54 <dawm> the url must be https
Dec 07 21:38:58 <dawm> if its http it redirects to https
Dec 07 21:39:01 <dawm> that might be your problem
Dec 07 21:39:17 <dawm> my bitly url is https
Dec 07 21:39:51 <EricBlade> hmm. i tried it off my forum post, no go .. worked from touchpad and 2.1.0 though
Dec 07 21:40:00 <fxspec06> g'damn i dislike git
Dec 07 21:40:05 <fxspec06> my head a spinnin
Dec 07 21:40:11 <EricBlade> i love git, for the functions that i understand and use
Dec 07 21:40:19 <dawm> it works on 1.4.5 cause i was stuck on 1.4.5 for ages before i frankenpre2'd
Dec 07 21:40:24 <fxspec06> i just need to get this working w/ phonegap
Dec 07 21:40:30 <fxspec06> i have a git url but it not working
Dec 07 21:40:39 <fxspec06> the stuff is there tho
Dec 07 21:40:42 <dawm> i use a android phone now ;'(
Dec 07 21:41:53 <EricBlade> nvidia sent me a survey about smartphones.  Of course, our Palms and HPs are under "Other"
Dec 07 21:44:30 <EricBlade> lol they do ask how regularly you use your smartphone "in the bathroom"
Dec 07 21:44:52 <dawm> they want to know how regular you are
Dec 07 21:50:15 <Tibfib_> fxspec06: git sucks when you start out
Dec 07 21:50:20 <Tibfib_> once you figure it out, it's not bad
Dec 07 21:52:54 <fxspec06> all i need to do is get phonegap to pull my git url. but unfuddle is not clear on this url, or it is not working
Dec 07 21:53:07 <fxspec06> even though i can push and clone from it, phonegap isn't recognizing it
Dec 07 21:53:23 <fxspec06> i had a temp one from gitfarm but i made a new one earlier to day becaus it was free
Dec 07 21:55:41 <leiru> http://www.ebay.ca/itm/HP-Touchpad-Go-16gb-7inch-version-/250948968000?pt=US_Tablets&hash=item3a6db95e40#ht_500wt_1238
Dec 07 21:56:28 <rwhitby> leiru: are you going to bid?
Dec 07 21:57:23 <EricBlade> C = canadian ?
Dec 07 21:57:35 <EricBlade> ah yes.  wow, $90 for shipping?
Dec 07 21:58:51 <leiru> rwhitby: never ever. i have no use for a tablet then brogramming
Dec 07 21:59:26 <leiru> *than
Dec 07 22:00:21 <leiru> i even use my pre2/3 just for email and twitter, mostly when i drive to work by bus and subway. and sometimes clicking hyperlinks in twitter in the subway.
Dec 07 22:01:36 <Shadyman> Mississauga is where HP Canada's head office is, so I'd believe it's legit.
Dec 07 22:02:12 <leiru> rwhitby: maybe, but thats currently just speculation, i will start coding for mac/iOS. or return to webOS when this bad times are over.
Dec 07 22:03:14 <rwhitby> looks like top tongue barry has the top bid on that tablet
Dec 07 22:07:56 <leiru> rwhitby: on the other hand... after i burned my hands alot with a proprietary system, that was cancelled suddenly i think i maybe should do more rails or node.
Dec 07 22:08:59 <leiru> but clientside development would be a good counterpart for spare time to my web dev job during the day. like webOS was.
Dec 07 22:09:01 * rwhitby is writing node stuff at the moment for app tuckerbox server side
Dec 07 22:09:11 <EricBlade> brogramming?  programming with your bros?
Dec 07 22:09:40 <VICODANAX> IT'S KINDA LIKE BROSTEP
Dec 07 22:09:47 <VICODANAX> DUBSTEP WITH YOUR BROS AND THE MUSIC IS EVEN WORSE
Dec 07 22:10:15 <Shadyman> Might as well have a Rad Bromance afterwards
Dec 07 22:10:21 <rwhitby> VICODANAX: your shift key is stuck
Dec 07 22:10:29 <VICODANAX> yeah this new keyboard sucks
Dec 07 22:10:34 <VICODANAX> brb cleaning off the jizz
Dec 07 22:10:55 <rwhitby> VICODANAX: inappropriate for this channel
Dec 07 22:11:02 <VICODANAX> sorry
Dec 07 22:11:07 <VICODANAX> im gone for the day anyways
Dec 07 22:11:08 <VICODANAX> peace
Dec 07 22:13:28 <leiru> EricBlade: http://www.quora.com/Brogramming/How-does-a-programmer-become-a-brogrammer
Dec 07 22:13:56 <leiru> and of course: http://www.quora.com/Brogramming/What-are-the-attributes-of-a-10x-brogrammer
Dec 07 22:14:22 <VICODANAX> leiru: i like to call some programmers divalopers
Dec 07 22:14:32 <fxspec06> wow i think i got this
Dec 07 22:14:43 <fxspec06> not using unfuddle tho
Dec 07 22:14:51 <fxspec06> i never noticed that phonegap added git support til today
Dec 07 22:14:58 <VICODANAX> ok im out for reals now
Dec 07 22:15:01 <fxspec06> they must've done it just recently. like aka their own hosting
Dec 07 22:16:15 <leiru> VICODANAX: i was once called a divaloper by a working mate.
Dec 07 22:16:35 <leiru> i think he is right in some way ;)
Dec 07 22:19:52 <EricBlade> wow, wth .. i just knocked 50% of my pre+ battery in 15 minutes?
Dec 07 22:20:31 <EricBlade> bah, it's touchstone's cord was loose.
Dec 07 22:24:27 <Mousey> Tilly: brogramming
Dec 07 22:24:31 <Mousey> no, not tilly
Dec 07 22:24:32 <Mousey> TIL
Dec 07 22:25:34 <leiru> ?
Dec 07 22:25:44 <Mousey> TIL = Today I Learned
Dec 07 22:39:54 <panel> btw. you are going to try TP sale on ebay ?
Dec 07 22:47:55 <Shadyman> Fly your flag at half mast: M*A*S*H's Col. Sherman T. Potter, Harry Morgan, died on Wednesday morning.
Dec 07 22:50:22 <panel> :(((
Dec 07 22:50:48 <panel> we are watching with my wife mash theese days
Dec 07 22:51:13 <Shadyman> MASH was the best. show. evar.
Dec 07 22:51:48 <Shadyman> mostly because they just sat down before each episode and gave the general plot layout and asked everyone what they thought could happen / what kind of gags / etc
Dec 07 22:51:59 <Shadyman> it wasn't just top-down forced on everyone
Dec 07 22:59:46 <EricBlade> alan alda was a way underrated actor too
Dec 07 23:02:02 <fxspec06> so the touchpad is returning.. ?
Dec 07 23:02:22 <summatusmentis> returning? since when?
Dec 07 23:02:29 <EricBlade> my guess is that since they are going to blast out all their refurbs in a few days, that probably means that HP is washing their hands of the whole thing
Dec 07 23:02:40 <EricBlade> that's just my pessimistic opinion though
Dec 07 23:02:41 <trout> just some refurbs
Dec 07 23:02:44 <trout> hardly a return
Dec 07 23:03:16 <fxspec06> it's still more
Dec 07 23:03:17 <trout> any dev's here interested in contributing on a plex video client for WebOS
Dec 07 23:03:19 <trout> work already started.
Dec 07 23:03:33 <EricBlade> plex video?
Dec 07 23:03:43 <trout> plex media server
Dec 07 23:03:47 <trout> is very nice.
Dec 07 23:04:08 <EricBlade> i already have a subsonic media server client .. . . . although i haven't got video support atm
Dec 07 23:05:08 <trout> http://forums.plexapp.com/index.php/topic/29910-webos-client/page__view__findpost__p__196454
Dec 07 23:05:19 <trout> This person needs some help currently so I thought I'd ask here.
Dec 07 23:05:50 <trout> nuts are fattening
Dec 07 23:06:48 <EricBlade> trout, got a quick link to some api documentation? i could have a look at it .. i'd go digging but i'm about to hit the road
Dec 07 23:08:02 <trout> I don't.. if you're interested I encourage you to contact b0bben on twitter about it. :)
Dec 07 23:14:48 <EricBlade> all the people that were hammering on me for getting a subsonic client going when i said i thought it looked like something that'd be fairly easy to do, i've got 1 download in 12 hrs
Dec 07 23:15:48 <cwayne> EricBlade: whats it called?
Dec 07 23:17:37 <EricBlade> well it is just on the beta feed since my "todo" list on it is still pretty monstrous.. and a lot of things only half work.. but.. http://forums.precentral.net/hp-touchpad-apps/285380-subsonic-app-2.html
Dec 07 23:18:02 <cwayne> EricBlade: is it open sourced?
Dec 07 23:18:19 <EricBlade> not at the moment
Dec 07 23:19:31 <EricBlade> wow they -increased- the price on the touchstones? jeez
Dec 07 23:23:11 <PatrickC> hey guys
Dec 07 23:23:15 <PatrickC> hows it going?
Dec 07 23:23:59 <panel> hi PatrickC
Dec 07 23:24:04 <PatrickC> hey panel
Dec 07 23:24:40 <panel> EricBlade i'm not seeing your XO - subsonic commander in app catalog
Dec 07 23:25:03 <panel> have you set it not for all countries ?
Dec 07 23:27:29 <panel> goin' sleep
Dec 07 23:29:37 <dwc-> EricBlade: $50? no
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