**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Dec 15 02:59:57 2011
Dec 15 03:35:54 <sugardave> akanster: sorry, was very occupied but glad you fixed it :)
Dec 15 03:41:40 <akanster> heh, np
Dec 15 04:50:51 * DougReeder waves hello
Dec 15 04:58:09 <EricBlade> hi everyone. trying out the new splashtop. seems to work ok but the keyboard still sucks
Dec 15 04:59:30 <wrea> I got CamCam. I'll need to boot into windows to try it out
Dec 15 05:01:23 <EricBlade> i just figured out that i can use the shift key on top of the vkb to get capital letters.. thats bizarre that the regular shift key doesnt work.  i wonder ifthey reimplemented the entire keyboard
Dec 15 05:03:02 <EricBlade> if the bluetooth keyboard worked properly i could actually use this for work
Dec 15 05:21:42 <Tommy> anybody want a palm pixi?
Dec 15 05:22:03 <DougReeder> I could use it for testing
Dec 15 05:22:15 <Tommy> DougReeder: $40 shipped if you want it, brand new in box
Dec 15 05:22:31 <Tommy> i bought it, didn't realize it doesn't have wifi, found that out in the specs before i got it and now it's waiting for me at home -_-
Dec 15 05:22:35 <DougReeder> But, nah, no pint now.  Thank you anyway.
Dec 15 05:22:39 <Tommy> kk
Dec 15 05:23:07 <rwhitby> Tommy: you can pay me $20 to take it off your hands. You pay shipping.
Dec 15 05:23:21 <DougReeder> Only had one bug rekated to Pixi
Dec 15 05:23:23 <Tommy> rwhitby: i'd rather toss it in the garbage bin with the rest of the webOS devices
Dec 15 05:23:34 <rwhitby> that works too
Dec 15 05:23:36 <DougReeder> ...related to Pixi screen size.
Dec 15 05:23:51 <dwc-> that'd be cool
Dec 15 05:24:04 <Tommy> i just need to find a friend with sprint
Dec 15 05:24:05 <dwc-> that'd save tommy some more hawking it on #webos
Dec 15 05:24:10 <Tommy> unfortunately all of my friends are on GSM networks
Dec 15 05:24:21 <Tommy> dwc-: i was hanging around here long before i got the pixi, fella
Dec 15 05:24:32 <dwc-> oh, I know
Dec 15 05:24:32 <DougReeder> main use would be testing PDK games
Dec 15 05:24:34 <Tommy> :P
Dec 15 05:24:39 <rwhitby> dwc-: my thought exactly. and he may even no longer have a reason to hang around ...
Dec 15 05:24:57 <Tommy> rwhitby: webOS is open source now, of course i'll have a reason to hang around, i'm gonna put it on my galaxy sexus
Dec 15 05:25:02 <Tommy> bow chicka wow wowwww
Dec 15 05:25:18 <Tommy> dual booting WebOS and Android 4.0.1? yes please.
Dec 15 05:25:30 <Tommy> too bad it'll take forever before i can get the sauce
Dec 15 05:25:45 <rwhitby> dwc-: oh well
Dec 15 05:25:45 <DougReeder> What I really need is a palmOS 5 device to replace my LifeDrive
Dec 15 05:25:49 <wrea> haeffb was looking for a pixi
Dec 15 05:26:07 <Tommy> wrea: thanks for the heads up
Dec 15 05:26:24 <DougReeder> or maybe just a Lifedrive battery. Does anyone still fix them?
Dec 15 05:27:10 <wrea> his wife busted hers and he had no more backup pixi's
Dec 15 05:28:36 <Tommy> wrea: hahah that's exactly the situation i need, no one goes out looking for pixis anymore
Dec 15 05:29:05 <Tommy> i have an android developer phone, a nexus S, a galaxy nexus, i don't need a phone with no wifi that i can't even get service for ;_;
Dec 15 05:29:19 <Tommy> silly sprint and their CDMA
Dec 15 05:31:10 <EricBlade-TP> cdma kicks butt
Dec 15 05:43:55 * DougReeder waves goodnight
Dec 15 05:47:32 <zephjc> i still want webOS on my iPad
Dec 15 05:47:45 <dwc-> hello, locked bootloader
Dec 15 05:52:12 <zephjc> bah, stuff and nonsense
Dec 15 06:13:08 <patrickc> how is everyone tonight?
Dec 15 06:13:15 <zephjc> good
Dec 15 06:13:22 <zephjc> so many ppl idle in here
Dec 15 06:13:28 <patrickc> its like that alot
Dec 15 06:13:43 <patrickc> IGNTNUNLMTD!
Dec 15 06:13:45 <zephjc> people just recording it all?
Dec 15 06:14:06 <IGNTNUNLMTD> my MBP just kernel panicked again
Dec 15 06:14:07 <patrickc> yeah
Dec 15 06:14:10 <patrickc> or afk
Dec 15 06:14:12 <IGNTNUNLMTD> while compiling C
Dec 15 06:14:14 <IGNTNUNLMTD> \o/
Dec 15 06:14:35 <patrickc> uh oh
Dec 15 06:14:38 <patrickc> you broke it
Dec 15 06:14:39 <patrickc> :P
Dec 15 06:14:41 <zephjc> wow, i havent seen a kernel panic in OSX in like 7 years
Dec 15 06:15:13 <IGNTNUNLMTD> you clearly haven't had the honor of using my MBP, then :-P
Dec 15 06:15:54 <patrickc> IGNTNUNLMTD: i wish i had a MBP :/
Dec 15 06:16:04 <dwc-> you clearly haven't used the macbook I had either
Dec 15 06:16:29 <dwc-> at one point, I think it was hoping it could give me an epileptic seizure
Dec 15 06:16:37 <patrickc> lol
Dec 15 06:16:56 <zephjc> wow damn
Dec 15 06:17:09 <zephjc> ive always had great success with my MBPs
Dec 15 06:17:12 <patrickc> i sometimes think my laptop is out to make me have a heart attack lol
Dec 15 06:19:59 <zephjc> yuck D:
Dec 15 06:24:56 <patrickc> what twitter clients do you guys on ubuntu use?
Dec 15 06:25:58 <dwc-> ttyter
Dec 15 06:27:06 <patrickc> command line twitter?
Dec 15 06:27:10 <patrickc> never heard of that lol
Dec 15 06:28:21 <wrea> its l33ter than you, thats why
Dec 15 06:30:57 <patrickc> can i run a mojo app in a browser?
Dec 15 06:33:57 <IGNTNUNLMTD> <blasphemy>Objective-C is pretty cool.</blasphemy>
Dec 15 06:35:50 <patrickc> i guess my answer is.. no :/
Dec 15 06:42:11 <IGNTNUNLMTD> are you people untrollable? lol
Dec 15 06:42:29 <patrickc> nope
Dec 15 06:42:32 <patrickc> just tired :)
Dec 15 06:42:48 <patrickc> i just finished updating my dad's sprint pre2 to 2.2.4
Dec 15 06:47:12 <zephjc> lol
Dec 15 06:47:16 <zephjc> ObjC is ok
Dec 15 06:47:41 <zephjc> i pretty much dont use languages where it needs a manual compile phase
Dec 15 06:48:06 <IGNTNUNLMTD> but but but… those are the fast ones!
Dec 15 06:48:43 <dwc-> while sleep 1 ; do make ; done
Dec 15 06:48:48 <dwc-> no more manual
Dec 15 06:48:51 <zephjc> lol
Dec 15 06:52:27 * EricBlade dances a jig
Dec 15 06:52:41 * EricBlade flying out of state in 2 weeks to sign a great contract
Dec 15 06:55:12 <zephjc> nice, doin what?
Dec 15 07:12:54 <EricBlade> writing a video game
Dec 15 07:13:06 <patrickc> nice!
Dec 15 07:13:10 <patrickc> what platform?
Dec 15 07:13:42 <EricBlade> iOS
Dec 15 07:13:52 <EricBlade> possibly Android
Dec 15 07:14:20 * EricBlade wonders if any other devs derive the same pleasure from using their own apps as i do
Dec 15 07:14:34 <patrickc> when it comes to Project macaw i do :)
Dec 15 07:59:05 <EricBlade> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDTBXydMbjc&feature=share
Dec 15 07:59:40 <Jack87> lol
Dec 15 08:00:32 * patrickc needs to upgrade his flash player
Dec 15 08:01:23 <EricBlade> c'mon HP, please fix my app submission
Dec 15 08:11:52 <SethR> well, guess I won't be submitted my webos them. Portal says:  "This server is temporarily unable to service requests.(Internal-Reason: 132) "
Dec 15 08:11:59 <panel> hello
Dec 15 08:34:02 <EricBlade1> panel: i have 2.2.4 now :)
Dec 15 08:34:15 <panel> really ? on pre2 >
Dec 15 08:34:16 <panel> ?
Dec 15 08:34:22 <EricBlade1> panel: yes . i doctored it :)
Dec 15 08:34:33 <panel> is there webos doctor ?
Dec 15 08:41:55 <rwhitby> yes
Dec 15 08:42:30 <panel> thanks
Dec 15 08:45:03 <EricBlade1> deleting conversations in Skype on TP/Pre won't disconnect me from them on other Skypes will it? anyone know?
Dec 15 08:45:54 <panel> I don't think so
Dec 15 08:46:28 <panel> If you delete it from contacts maybe
Dec 15 08:54:37 <dwc-> I don't know, but I would believe not, given that I don't think any information about messages you've received or read is transmitted back to skype for distribution to your other connections
Dec 15 08:55:13 <dwc-> i.e. you multi-signon and you get some set of messages from the prior hours/day still
Dec 15 08:55:27 <dwc-> that involved an entire 2-way conversation that also ended hours ago
Dec 15 09:16:33 <RfromR> Anybody else having  trouble updating Preware?
Dec 15 09:17:03 <rwhitby> no
Dec 15 09:17:09 <rwhitby> what are you seeing?
Dec 15 09:17:39 <RfromR> checking device type stays on screen, even after a luna restart
Dec 15 09:18:01 <RfromR> (now trying device restart)
Dec 15 09:18:07 <rwhitby> did you try an uninstall, reboot, then reinstall ?
Dec 15 09:18:59 <RfromR> Ah sorry, after a device restart it works now, thanks
Dec 15 09:19:28 <RfromR> Impatient me
Dec 15 09:22:38 <RfromR> And that was on my Pre 2, just tried the Pre and that went fine
Dec 15 09:59:23 <panel> have anyone tried imlement "Just type" to app ?
Dec 15 14:08:11 <swisstomcat> afternoon
Dec 15 14:09:36 <madnificent> 'llo swisstomcat
Dec 15 14:09:43 <swisstomcat> hey
Dec 15 14:17:15 <Shiggs|MB> sup all
Dec 15 15:06:12 <panel> hi
Dec 15 15:47:19 <KungPhoo> oh. I have cyanogenmod on. Now I wanted to power off, but the touchscreen does not respond
Dec 15 15:47:24 <KungPhoo> how can I reset?
Dec 15 15:48:17 <dwc-> hold home+power for 30s
Dec 15 15:48:47 <KungPhoo> thanks a lot!
Dec 15 18:59:15 <Abyssul> Anyone here have 2.2.4 officially?
Dec 15 19:26:25 <akanster> did anyone ever implement a Right -> Left flyin?
Dec 15 20:49:53 <EricBlade1> so, i woke up, and grabbed my touchpad, which had not been on a charger overnight, and it was powered off.  i was like wth?  i powered it up, and it immediately started up with LCARS Clock running. and with less than 4% battery
Dec 15 20:53:44 <fxspec06> o_O sounds like someone lost track of time
Dec 15 20:54:12 <fxspec06> p.s. don't hot swap batteries and expect your pre 2 to charge overnight, without restarting
Dec 15 20:54:22 <fxspec06> coz IT AIN'T HAPPENIN
Dec 15 20:54:30 <summatusmentis> hotswap batteries?
Dec 15 20:54:37 <fxspec06> yeah! you've never done that?!?
Dec 15 20:54:43 <summatusmentis> you can do that?
Dec 15 20:54:54 <summatusmentis> how?
Dec 15 20:55:01 <fxspec06> take the back off, plug it into the wall, get your other battery ready, then remove and replace. you've got like a 3 second window
Dec 15 20:55:11 <summatusmentis> oh
Dec 15 20:55:14 <summatusmentis> meh
Dec 15 20:55:38 <fxspec06> it got to be a wall outlet though. puter don't provide enough juice
Dec 15 20:59:48 <summatusmentis> good to know, I suppose
Dec 15 21:02:13 <EricBlade1> apple just sent me email hawking their engraving service.  sigh.
Dec 15 21:27:27 <rwhitby> fxspec06: you've got a 3 second window unless your phone decides to transmit at the exact point in time, in which case you'll likely hang the device.
Dec 15 21:27:54 <rwhitby> in general, phones can't transmit without the current surge capability of a battery compared to the usb charge input.
Dec 15 21:42:23 * EricBlade wonders if anyone's going to manage to get his app update into the catalog :(
Dec 15 21:46:58 <EricBlade> oh yay the "Annoying Noises" app was updated today!
Dec 15 22:16:06 <EricBlade> ok so my ipod can receive incoming phone calls via SIP now, although there's no ringer at all :(
Dec 15 22:16:17 <EricBlade> my Pre2 and TouchPad can receive Skype calls
Dec 15 22:16:26 <EricBlade> everything can receive calls via Google Voice
Dec 15 22:53:59 <EricBlade> ok, exhibition mode on my touchpad is now upsetting me.  it is -constantly- reverting back to the Agenda
Dec 16 00:12:44 <EricBlade> uh.. dev forum style change?
Dec 16 00:12:51 <EricBlade> or is my browser whack
Dec 16 00:13:02 <singmajesty> I think its the same
Dec 16 00:16:40 <EricBlade> guess it wasn't shipping me the css. looks like it's not responding at all now
Dec 16 00:18:36 <EricBlade> and now its back
Dec 16 00:39:06 <fxspec06> it won't be long until phonegap supports webos
Dec 16 00:39:10 <fxspec06> enyo*
Dec 16 00:39:22 <EricBlade> it won't be long now, said the rabbi
Dec 16 00:39:27 <fxspec06> lol
Dec 16 00:39:48 <fxspec06> those wise rabbis
Dec 16 00:40:00 <fxspec06> always saying memorable things
Dec 16 01:00:29 <dwc-> ericblade: one awesome thing about having the layout in a separate file
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