**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jan 09 02:59:57 2012 Jan 09 03:20:21 fxspec06, you a broncos fan? Jan 09 03:21:09 invalidopcode, ping Jan 09 03:21:16 PatrickC: pong Jan 09 03:21:28 icon? Jan 09 04:12:02 ok, i have the handleLink which needs to pass (url) to the showOptsUrl which then needs to pass (url) to all of the sub functions that run off of it.. Jan 09 04:12:08 there is the code http://pastebin.com/KLYUBFui Jan 09 04:12:13 how would i do that? Jan 09 04:23:21 bbl Jan 09 04:23:31 time for bed. if u have an answer, ping me Jan 09 05:05:45 PatrickC_Away Jan 09 05:06:20 when you call a function, you put the variable you want to pass inside parens Jan 09 05:06:34 then the function needs to receive those Jan 09 05:10:03 so to answer your question........... just add url inside the showOps declaration parens Jan 09 05:10:11 then do whatever you want with it Jan 09 05:10:46 you can even name it something different and it will accept it. functions accept params in the order from which they are received ;) Jan 09 05:10:56 godspeed Jan 09 05:17:56 moo Jan 09 05:18:14 halfhalo: boo Jan 09 05:18:49 my computer is yelling about being on reserve power but i already packed up lappytop charger into bag. Jan 09 05:18:50 who Jan 09 05:19:10 woo* Jan 09 05:19:24 fxspec06_: foo Jan 09 05:19:30 zoo Jan 09 05:19:36 fxspec06_: coo Jan 09 05:19:38 poo Jan 09 05:19:42 fxspec06_: loo Jan 09 05:19:53 stupid ces Jan 09 05:20:05 when did that start anyways? wasn't it bigger last year Jan 09 05:20:29 starts tomorrow Jan 09 05:20:48 last year really disappointed me, and this year my expectations are far lower and excitement level is set to 'not really caring' Jan 09 05:20:56 i go for the swag Jan 09 05:21:05 ugh you get to go Jan 09 05:21:15 you always do cool things. Jan 09 05:21:19 why do i never do cool things. Jan 09 05:21:33 because I'm better than you? Jan 09 05:21:34 :p Jan 09 05:21:41 lucky.... one of these days i want to go Jan 09 05:22:06 halfhalo: just... don't ruin it and steal an ipad Jan 09 05:22:23 i has touchpad, why do i need another tablet? Jan 09 05:22:28 also, e3 has better swag Jan 09 05:22:46 do they give you anything for going Jan 09 05:22:52 besides a cool badge Jan 09 05:23:02 no? Jan 09 05:23:51 hm Jan 09 05:24:48 http://www.cepro.com/article/worlds_stupidest_criminal_steals_ipad_at_security_show/ Jan 09 05:30:40 lol Jan 09 05:38:19 weeeeebored Jan 09 05:43:32 yay! HP said they would fix my touchpad :) Jan 09 05:43:39 awesome Jan 09 05:44:34 yeah! they're going to send out a box to send it back to them and stuff for free :) Jan 09 05:45:42 hopefully they have you send it to the right place Jan 09 05:46:16 haha i would assume they would... why, have they done otherwise? Jan 09 05:46:53 yeah, first hand victim here. They had me send my veer to the wrong place and misplaced it for over a month Jan 09 05:47:17 oh wow, that stinks. did they find it or replace it? Jan 09 05:47:32 they found it said it was fixed and sent it back unfixed Jan 09 05:48:01 oh wow, so did you send it back again? Jan 09 05:48:31 they did an advanced replacement at that point Jan 09 05:48:56 ahh. what was wrong with the device to begin with? Jan 09 05:49:16 I got it with a big cluster of stuck and dead pixels Jan 09 05:50:14 oh wow Jan 09 05:51:34 Trying to make a luna service right now Jan 09 05:51:44 ah, for what? Jan 09 05:52:56 for avahi, to make it easier to request info about a specific service type Jan 09 05:53:49 ah cool. isn't that like one of those serverless discovery things? Jan 09 05:53:58 if i get it working at some point i might figure out how to publish services through it too Jan 09 05:53:59 yeah Jan 09 05:54:42 ah, that would be cool Jan 09 05:55:41 it'll only be for preware apps, since avahi isnt available sotck Jan 09 05:55:43 stock* Jan 09 05:56:17 ah Jan 09 06:49:40 hi everyone Jan 09 06:49:58 * invalidopcode stinks at drawing sine waves Jan 09 06:50:01 hi EricBlade1 Jan 09 06:51:48 hi EricBlade1 Jan 09 07:28:49 oh, yay, december sales numbers are up Jan 09 07:37:36 so did they ever release a newer version of pivot than November? Jan 09 07:40:50 morning Jan 09 07:45:53 hewball, nope Jan 09 15:24:08 hey guyz what is the diff. btw mojo and enyo? Jan 09 15:25:03 enyo is more js based Jan 09 15:25:07 and newer Jan 09 15:25:28 if you've used sencha products, it's a lot like that... everything is done is js Jan 09 15:25:36 mojo uses a combination of html and js Jan 09 15:25:46 everything is done in* js Jan 09 15:26:08 hattczech : actully i have js file code can i include the file directly into it? Jan 09 15:27:38 what do you mean "include it directly into it" ? you can reference it in index.html if that's what you're talking about Jan 09 15:28:50 ya ofcourse ill do it but i mean check out this code whrer shd i put this in .js file .. Jan 09 15:29:19 as fxspec06_ said... it can be referenced, yes Jan 09 15:29:53 SocialCalc.Constants.s_loc_plain = "Plain"; Jan 09 15:30:02 there is a file that you use to reference other files Jan 09 15:30:05 a depends file Jan 09 15:30:56 http://pastie.org/3154741 Jan 09 15:31:06 i think maybe you are asking for the oncreate function ? Jan 09 15:31:14 this type of js code.. Jan 09 15:31:25 can i put this...? Jan 09 15:32:08 in a directory and reference it Jan 09 15:32:34 can you expound? Jan 09 15:32:50 i'd put it in a separate file inside a function, and then call that function from the enyo kind's oncreate -- "oncreate: (){ this.inherited(arguments); mySpecialFunction();" Jan 09 15:33:39 it's just create*** (not 'oncreate') Jan 09 15:33:58 i dont know about oncreate function could you please show me? Jan 09 15:33:59 i believe the answer to your question is 'yes' Jan 09 15:34:47 amd: did you write this other code? or are you trying to use something from someone else and make an app out of it? Jan 09 15:34:51 https://developer.palm.com/content/api/reference/enyo/enyo-api-reference.html#enyo.Component >>> scroll down to 'create and destroy' Jan 09 15:35:11 yes hattczech! Jan 09 15:35:33 okay Jan 09 15:35:56 if all you need is a web app, you don't _need_ any enyo kinds for it to work. but you do need to load the framework Jan 09 15:36:00 so then fxspec06_ gave a pretty good description Jan 09 15:38:12 fxspec06 : u mean that whole js code shd be put into some function and should be called in turn? Jan 09 15:38:47 all js code can be left in the original file Jan 09 15:38:57 and add the file to the list of included files in the application Jan 09 15:39:46 and that wcan be done by oncreate function? Jan 09 15:39:59 ^^^^ yep. as long as you include the file in depends.js, you can call any external function. just remember to pass the variables you need Jan 09 15:41:02 it's just "create: function() { this.inherited(arguments); /* your code here... call whatever functions you want ;) */ }" Jan 09 15:41:07 https://developer.palm.com/content/api/dev-guide/enyo/tutorial.html Jan 09 15:47:29 ok hattczech n fxspech06 thanks:) Jan 09 15:49:32 no problem Jan 09 16:59:31 anyone have experience making a Sprint franken pre 2? Jan 09 17:00:23 wondering if there is any difference between getting a verizon pre 2 or an unlocked pre 2 Jan 09 17:00:33 jcerwinske, best to poke at people in #webos-internals for that Jan 09 17:02:45 i think the vz pre2 makes more sense, but either will work Jan 09 17:03:37 seems like the difference is just what Doctor to use, but wanted to be sure before I hit the ebay... Jan 09 17:04:36 whichever is cheaper is the right one! Jan 09 17:05:32 that's what I was hoping :) Jan 09 17:05:58 my GSM pre2 overclocks further than my VZW one. but that does not necessarily represent everyone's experience Jan 09 17:08:01 I'll keep that in mind. Thanks guys Jan 09 17:21:25 HattCzech_work: Ping Jan 09 17:41:51 grep "hotmoms" /var/log/httpd* Jan 09 17:41:59 oops, wrong window Jan 09 17:42:02 hotdp: pong Jan 09 17:42:16 Still sencha awesome? Jan 09 17:42:17 guess we know what zephjc is looking for Jan 09 17:42:30 still frustrated with it :) Jan 09 17:42:34 haha Jan 09 17:42:36 hehe i was only joking Jan 09 17:42:38 lets go pm Jan 09 17:42:48 yeah, get a room you two! Jan 09 17:42:49 lol Jan 09 18:04:04 game: what's in your paste buffer? ill go first Jan 09 18:04:06 http://i.imgur.com/XxWwD.jpg Jan 09 18:04:18 ghs.google.com Jan 09 18:05:04 http://www.theverge.com/2012/1/9/2693707/vizio-unveils-all-in-one-pc-notebooks-10-inch-tablet#88099304 Jan 09 18:05:33 hehe Jan 09 18:05:42 * oilsworkn bets zephjc put that in his paste buffer just to post it here Jan 09 18:05:47 you don't want my paste buffer Jan 09 18:05:58 I just selected a few thousand lines Jan 09 18:06:20 wouldnt you just get booted for flooding? Jan 09 18:06:35 depends. I can turn on flood mode and it rate limits automatically Jan 09 18:06:51 lmao Jan 09 18:12:02 lol Jan 09 18:12:40 well i had that in my paste buffer already, and didnt realize it til i pasted here. tho i DID check to make sure it wasnt something work related before hitting enter :) Jan 09 18:13:43 * oilsworkn doesnt believe you Jan 09 18:14:04 lol Jan 09 18:16:25 shit. trojan time. ugh. Jan 09 18:16:27 =| Jan 09 18:16:30 stupid chrome Jan 09 18:23:42 s/chrome/user/? Jan 09 18:26:31 s/user/stupidAndroidSitesFromPakistanTalkingAboutWildnPoker Jan 09 18:35:30 first reboot -- raid array failed. second reboot -- bootloader failed. heart attack time. third reboot -- windows logo. *exhale* Jan 09 18:35:58 i think my blood pressure is about 190 right now Jan 09 19:00:40 fxspec06: google alerts? Jan 09 19:54:07 Precentral is going to CES.... ok Jan 09 19:55:30 ? Jan 09 19:56:12 precentral is part of mobile nations Jan 09 19:57:28 anyone else think it's funny that the power adapter that comes with the Pre3 still has the palm logo on it? Jan 09 19:58:11 :) Jan 09 19:58:17 they had some left overs Jan 09 19:59:55 when I got my touchpad and put a on the screen/back protectors I deliberately used the circle bit (that you're supposed to remove) to cover the hp logo on the back Jan 09 20:00:17 I got mine at part of the firesale and was still a little on the upset side Jan 09 20:00:21 *as Jan 09 20:35:49 will webOS itself be making an appearance at CES? :) Jan 09 20:36:15 i doubt Jan 09 20:36:29 How owuld "he" look? Jan 09 20:39:26 I would imagine like the jack in the box guy, except with a Pre for a head Jan 09 20:40:12 hehe Jan 09 20:40:14 http://www.cracked.com/article_19481_the-8-most-wildly-irresponsible-vintage-toys.html Jan 09 20:49:48 Yes, the Atomic Energy Lab! Jan 09 20:53:59 the cyclotron @ the old Betteravia facility in Illinois Jan 09 21:04:30 hehe Jan 09 21:23:37 hmmm to buy photoshop or to not buy photoshop Jan 09 21:24:09 mmmmm photoshop Jan 09 21:24:59 unfortunately, I have not found any good image editors for mac Jan 09 21:25:03 free Jan 09 21:25:27 paint.net is perfect for me on windows. nothing comparable on mac for free Jan 09 21:26:46 gimp no good? Jan 09 21:27:13 lol Jan 09 21:27:42 I hate gimp Jan 09 21:27:50 get what you pay for... Jan 09 21:27:50 well hate is strong. but I really don't like it Jan 09 21:27:54 paint.net is amazing Jan 09 21:27:55 and free Jan 09 21:28:33 maybe its just because i've used photoshop for like 10+ years, but i can't stand other editors Jan 09 21:28:51 Tibfib_: look into seashore Jan 09 21:28:54 based on gimp Jan 09 21:28:57 but without a shitty UI Jan 09 21:29:41 summatusmentis: will do, thanks! Jan 09 21:29:49 jcerwinske: that's a stupid perspective, there's a lot of pay-for software out there that's pretty awful Jan 09 21:30:14 ha, true enough Jan 09 21:30:18 Tibfib_: it's also "minimalized" and removes a lot of the "expert" functionality Jan 09 21:32:37 dling now Jan 09 21:35:01 * oilsworkn has been buying games that come in cartridges from ebay :) Jan 09 21:36:07 heh, 64, nes, gba, or gb? Jan 09 21:36:11 snes? Jan 09 21:36:21 or even good ol sega genesis Jan 09 21:37:27 snes and 64 Jan 09 21:39:36 I'd like to sell my collection but I can't bring myself to do it Jan 09 21:39:47 would be nice to clean house.... but oh the nostalga! Jan 09 21:41:56 * halfhalo has the lte's at the ces's Jan 09 21:42:10 summatusmentis: seashore is nice. Might be a little too little, but we'll see Jan 09 21:43:42 Tibfib_: it's been a while since I used it Jan 09 21:44:30 unlike other nameless (sprint) carriers, both att and vzw work during ces. Jan 09 21:45:47 also, screw ndrive. i hate it. Jan 09 21:46:38 it routed me on one of the mose conveluted routes to my hotel known to man. Jan 09 21:46:52 had to suck it up and pay for att navigator again to find where I was. Jan 09 21:47:11 summatusmentis: someone recommended pixlr. which is nice Jan 09 21:47:17 I'll keep seashore for offline stuff Jan 09 21:48:11 oh, intriguing Jan 09 22:25:15 Just got my AT&T Pre3 now, woop Jan 09 22:25:40 I'm guessing if it's saying 3G I'm not set up for a 4G HSPA+ thing on AT&T's side? Even though my last phone was a 4G HSPA+ one? Jan 09 22:34:15 to the penny slots! Jan 09 22:34:53 you at CES? Jan 09 22:35:18 si Jan 09 22:35:48 halfhalo is big pimpin! Jan 09 22:36:18 anything good there yet? Jan 09 22:36:26 20 says I get lost walking through the mgm right now Jan 09 22:36:45 the floors open tomorrow Jan 09 22:36:52 today is press day Jan 09 22:36:53 take that $20 to the roulette table! Jan 09 22:37:06 bet it on red! Jan 09 22:37:45 hmmm Jan 09 22:37:59 I just ran into a pool Jan 09 22:38:37 how did I pull that off indoors and underground Jan 09 22:40:02 at least not like the Venetian where I went in circles Jan 09 22:40:28 literally Jan 09 22:40:28 lol Jan 09 22:40:35 does it look like you wet yourself? Jan 09 22:40:49 no. Jan 09 22:40:58 did you wet yourself? Jan 09 22:41:07 he got scared Jan 09 22:41:11 no? Jan 09 22:41:23 well, just checking Jan 09 22:41:35 I see sky! Jan 09 22:41:40 not looking like you wet yourself doesn't preclude you from having wet yourself Jan 09 22:41:48 and not fake sky like venetian! Jan 09 22:55:48 how do I sync my phone contacts to my Pre3 if I have a .vcf file? Jan 09 22:56:32 import them to google contacts and click "sync now" iirc Jan 09 22:56:40 afaik, thats the only/easiest way Jan 09 22:56:51 I tried that, it only synced my gtalk contacts and not their phone numbers Jan 09 22:56:52 hmm Jan 09 22:57:07 hrmm... Jan 09 22:58:10 is there no official webOS sync app? Jan 09 22:58:26 not that i know of Jan 09 22:58:45 i know that u can export the contacts as a .vcf, not sure about importing them Jan 09 22:59:17 actually, have u tried opening up the file on the device? Jan 09 22:59:24 gosh, I forgot how pathetic the onclick event is on 3.0.4 Jan 09 22:59:28 nomnomnom is unusable. Jan 09 22:59:36 I haven't, I should try that haha Jan 09 22:59:41 using Internalz, right? Jan 09 22:59:46 (no, I don't use nomnomnom much) Jan 09 23:00:25 Satellite, yep Jan 09 23:00:34 Tibfib_, i used to use google reader a ton, then i got twitter :P Jan 09 23:00:53 they aren't mutually exclusive Jan 09 23:01:25 Satellite, u def want to use google Jan 09 23:01:27 well, whatever news i would read in google reader i normally see come across as a tweet.. Jan 09 23:01:41 PuffTheMagic: I tried but it only synced my gtalk contacts, no phone numbers Jan 09 23:01:59 did u install the sync fix from preware? Jan 09 23:02:02 Satellite, i take it u are on a fresh device Jan 09 23:02:08 yep, fresh device Jan 09 23:02:16 sync fix, nope haven't done that Jan 09 23:02:19 have u setup your mail program for gmail Jan 09 23:02:24 or just messaging/gchat Jan 09 23:02:38 neither, I just added my google account and left the sliders on for everything Jan 09 23:02:51 log into your gmail account with the mail app Jan 09 23:03:01 and after thats done i bet u get the rest of your contacts Jan 09 23:03:18 i mean setup gmail with the mail client Jan 09 23:03:20 will try Jan 09 23:03:28 on the bottom, is there a little "circle" like thing in the notification area that when u click on it it says "syncing account"? Jan 09 23:03:58 PatrickC, pretty sure he needs to setup mail before mail contacts will be synced Jan 09 23:04:06 yeah Jan 09 23:04:22 I don't want mail contacts really, though, I just want the phone numbers I have synced to google Jan 09 23:04:25 PuffTheMagic, if its on 2.x then its a one-shot setup Jan 09 23:04:32 u set the account up once for everything Jan 09 23:04:38 Sargun_Screen, if u dont want mail contacts what do u expect to sync up Jan 09 23:04:45 phone numbers Jan 09 23:04:51 Satellite, open up the contacts app and see what accounts are linked to it Jan 09 23:04:52 I have phone numbers synced to google/gmail Jan 09 23:05:02 Android/WP7 were able to just pull them Jan 09 23:05:06 OK, one sec Jan 09 23:05:07 Satellite, those are mail contacts Jan 09 23:05:11 ah Jan 09 23:07:28 you don't necessarily have to add gmail to mail… you have to add a google account and sync contacts Jan 09 23:07:47 mail and contacts and task (etc.) are part of a google account. you need to sync yours Jan 09 23:12:43 contacts are contacts Jan 09 23:12:48 no such thing as a mail contact vs a phone contact Jan 09 23:13:28 I'd like to clear the calendar database on my Pre2. It's corrupted. Then have the Palm re-sync it with Google. Any pointers? Jan 09 23:13:34 my new pre2 arrived today! :D Jan 09 23:13:43 Is it an sqlite3 database? Jan 09 23:28:33 drop table contacts; Jan 09 23:31:52 or rather: drop table calendars; Jan 09 23:41:57 soooo nokia 900 Jan 09 23:43:14 I liked the design when it was the n900 :P Jan 09 23:43:37 Although i like the n950 because I prefer hardware keyboards Jan 09 23:45:43 i see Balmer did the CES keynote Jan 09 23:45:51 mebe Jan 09 23:46:30 why does halfhalo go to ces? to come into #webos and brag about being at ces xD Jan 09 23:46:32 with all the charm of a horny rhinoceros? Jan 09 23:46:37 yes. Jan 09 23:46:43 * halfhalo was playing penny slots Jan 09 23:46:46 haha Jan 09 23:47:55 I lost many pennys Jan 09 23:48:11 playing next to the 90 year old retirees? Jan 09 23:48:27 it's easy Jan 09 23:48:49 they have like 17 lines, and a 5 per line Jan 09 23:48:54 85c gone in one pull Jan 09 23:50:30 anyone here on a pre2? Jan 09 23:50:42 yep Jan 09 23:50:49 3 of them actually lol Jan 09 23:51:03 was Balmer's keynote a 55 minute bullet-note slideshow? Jan 09 23:51:18 PatrickC: you are on 3 of them? Jan 09 23:51:42 Tibfib_, lol.. mebe Jan 09 23:51:42 was thinking about one. I have android for phone which does everything I need...have touchpad though and I love it. Jan 09 23:51:48 all 3 are activated right now Jan 09 23:52:16 * oilsworkn has 2, one for dev, one as main Jan 09 23:52:44 i have one as a sprint, 1 has a keyboard i need to rehab, and the last one arrived today Jan 09 23:52:55 ill be building a second sprint pre2 sometime this week Jan 09 23:54:30 so all 3 are active phones as in you're paying data for all 3? Jan 09 23:54:59 my pre2 has the orange key :) Jan 09 23:55:08 (swapped kb from pre1) Jan 09 23:55:21 HmT1, na, i have one on sprint, the rest are activated for wifi only Jan 09 23:55:27 but are activated none the less :) Jan 09 23:55:43 oilsworkn, i was actially thinking of doing that to the one with the bad kb haha Jan 09 23:55:45 ooh okay. Jan 09 23:56:01 yeah, thats why i did it, the kb on the other one wouldn't sapce Jan 09 23:56:13 mine doesnt like to backspace or hit the 'b' key Jan 09 23:56:30 it will if u mash the keys hard enough, and it is getting easier as i mash the keys really hard, but lol Jan 09 23:56:51 HmT1, as of tomorrow ill be back on webOS as my main device and then ill be building another sprint pre2 this week sometime Jan 09 23:57:20 * halfhalo just swaps sim cards to whatever phone he wants Jan 09 23:57:30 * PatrickC is on sprint :/ Jan 09 23:57:33 evil at&t Jan 09 23:57:35 mainly due to the phone I was using having a dead battery. Jan 09 23:57:53 swapping sims is the only pro of at&t over the others Jan 09 23:57:59 anyone using any version of a pre on prepaid? Jan 09 23:58:01 well, tmo does sim cards too lol Jan 09 23:58:03 halfhalo: myself as well Jan 09 23:58:12 between my iPhone, dell venue pro, and pre 3 Jan 09 23:58:19 HmT1, i have tons of friends using pre3/2 on Red Pocket Jan 09 23:58:28 I have one of the pre3's on tmo prepaid Jan 09 23:58:30 it works Jan 09 23:58:39 * Tibfib_ rarely uses his pre3 Jan 09 23:58:40 also, still hating ndrive Jan 09 23:58:46 why? Jan 09 23:58:49 u in their beta program Jan 09 23:58:52 ? Jan 09 23:59:09 because it has crap route navigation. Jan 09 23:59:39 i found it worked fine on my pre- Jan 09 23:59:42 Going from LA to Vegas is not complicated. its like one freeway. ndrive sent me on a convoluted path that made no freaking sense Jan 09 23:59:43 hmm nice. just googled red pocket. Jan 09 23:59:44 i tested it against sprint nav Jan 10 00:00:24 now, the question is, to buy a lumia900 or a galaxy nexus Jan 10 00:00:26 if/when i get a job im thinking of going to red pocket Jan 10 00:00:45 * oilsworkn waits to see what webos is ported to before buying a new phone Jan 10 00:00:45 there is no goddamn reason It should have routed me to pearlblossom highway in the middle of freaking nowhere. Jan 10 00:00:47 i will hopefully get one soon. like when i turn 16 :) (which is in about a month and a half) Jan 10 00:00:54 lulzjob Jan 10 00:01:36 * PatrickC thinks hes gonna work on a hipchat client tonight Jan 10 00:01:42 just try to get the oauth login working Jan 10 00:01:43 16...I remember those days. Jan 10 00:01:43 you know, programming could be a job. Jan 10 00:01:44 * oilsworkn leaves his job Jan 10 00:01:55 then again, mah yob is the reason I have fancy stuffs Jan 10 00:02:03 Tibfib_, thats if i had something worth selling lol Jan 10 00:02:17 … well make something worth selling Jan 10 00:02:27 i think this hipchat client will work well though Jan 10 00:02:32 if anyone on webOS uses hipchat lol Jan 10 00:02:39 never heard of it. Jan 10 00:02:41 never heard of it Jan 10 00:02:43 DAMMIT Jan 10 00:02:51 http://hipchat.com Jan 10 00:02:54 lolz, I win Jan 10 00:03:03 WHY DID THE REMOTE DIE ON THE SPANISH CHANNEL Jan 10 00:03:13 que oasa! Jan 10 00:03:15 *pasa! Jan 10 00:03:23 ay, que pesado Jan 10 00:03:27 going to fancy ces event tonight Jan 10 00:03:30 * halfhalo wins at life Jan 10 00:03:39 will there be whores? Jan 10 00:03:58 no. open bar? yes Jan 10 00:04:09 will you be in a tux? Jan 10 00:04:13 no? Jan 10 00:04:16 NOT a fancy event. Jan 10 00:04:19 nice try Jan 10 00:04:21 * halfhalo is in shorts and tshirt. Jan 10 00:04:22 no no, t-shirt with a tux painted on Jan 10 00:04:26 redneck fancy Jan 10 00:04:29 fancy as in swag Jan 10 00:06:14 apparently my hotel has free wired interwebs Jan 10 00:06:27 * halfhalo lacks ethernet port... dammit Jan 10 00:08:10 * dwc- points and laughs Jan 10 00:08:32 * halfhalo slaps dwc- Jan 10 00:08:37 ah yeah, good ol' air Jan 10 00:08:48 halfhalo: also, you were right. I like the air much more than the pro Jan 10 00:08:54 even my laptop has an ethernet port.. and its a lower end windows laptop.. Jan 10 00:08:59 I was lazy and didn't bring gigabit usb adapter Jan 10 00:09:04 PatrickC: obviously Jan 10 00:09:21 my watch costs more than your laptop PatrickC. psh. Jan 10 00:09:28 Tibfib_, i actually got a new laptop with semi-respectible specs lol Jan 10 00:09:39 halfhalo, you watch is more then $400? Jan 10 00:09:46 ummm... yes Jan 10 00:09:52 dang.. nice watch Jan 10 00:10:10 obv you should have brought the appley network appley sharerer thing Jan 10 00:10:17 … having/not having an ethernet port is not indicative of the quality of a laptop. Jan 10 00:10:37 yea Jan 10 00:10:44 unless its windows. Jan 10 00:10:46 I'd rather have a new laptop come without than a 10/100mbit port Jan 10 00:10:58 because someone's too cheap to pay the extra 30c for gige chip Jan 10 00:11:18 inorite? Jan 10 00:11:30 my tablet doesn't have an ethernet port. wth. =( Jan 10 00:11:38 mine does. Jan 10 00:11:42 or will Jan 10 00:11:46 * halfhalo busts out superglue Jan 10 00:12:09 you can dongle it Jan 10 00:12:20 that sounds dirty Jan 10 00:12:29 keep it pg plz Jan 10 00:12:35 lol Jan 10 00:12:49 I'll show you pg! Jan 10 00:13:33 PatrickC has a fisher price laptop Jan 10 00:14:11 my first laptop was 400 Jan 10 00:14:21 got me the moneys to buy a nice one Jan 10 00:14:42 my first was an iBook. Then Powerbook. Then C90s. Then T400. Then Air. Jan 10 00:14:42 oh how I hate you CSS Jan 10 00:15:30 my first was a blackbook. then a p7811fx Jan 10 00:16:11 thats one of them gateway gaming laptops? Jan 10 00:16:30 I'm to lazy to look up that model number, just going on format. Jan 10 00:17:16 yep it's gaming laptop. pretty nice one as well Jan 10 00:17:25 wrea, that was my last one lol Jan 10 00:18:02 hmm. tablet or laptop to event... which to take... Jan 10 00:18:21 clearly you should pick the ebook reader Jan 10 00:18:27 glue them together to creak an uber device. Then you dont have to decide Jan 10 00:18:36 kindle is charging Jan 10 00:18:42 and my bag is to heavy with both Jan 10 00:19:09 Gluing them together will make it lighter somehow? Jan 10 00:19:16 lies Jan 10 00:19:36 tie a helium balloon to it. Jan 10 00:19:42 http://news.mobileroundup.com/live/ Jan 10 00:19:55 dont forget to coat the balloon with thermite Jan 10 00:19:58 how have I used a gig of data on the mifi already... wtf Jan 10 00:20:12 I HAVE ONLY HAD IT SINCE FRIDAY AND ITS ONLY BEEN ON TODAY Jan 10 00:20:44 and its refusing to load websites now :/ Jan 10 00:22:08 my first laptop was an omnibook 600c Jan 10 00:23:00 ohohoh, I don't have to go to the crazy hotel again today! Jan 10 00:23:13 stupid ceiling painted like the sky Jan 10 00:23:14 http://tinypaste.com/102591a5 this would be valid, right? lol Jan 10 00:23:15 WHO DOES THAT Jan 10 00:23:16 zephjc, can you tell me where that database file lives on the Pre2? Jan 10 00:23:26 ny grand central station? Jan 10 00:23:47 and venetian Jan 10 00:24:33 also, some crazy painter guy Jan 10 00:25:00 ... Jan 10 00:25:11 bob ross? Jan 10 00:25:20 nah, the guy who painted some chapel in rome Jan 10 00:25:49 I hate you both. Jan 10 00:25:56 i'm pretty sure that was bob ross Jan 10 00:26:45 PatrickC: no, that is not valid. Jan 10 00:26:51 just found that out.. Jan 10 00:27:00 is there a way to embed a function inside of a function? Jan 10 00:27:11 * Tibfib_ weeps Jan 10 00:27:32 Now I want to paint some happy little trees on my wall Jan 10 00:27:42 what are you doing? Jan 10 00:27:45 but... yes there is Jan 10 00:27:54 why did this stupid little mifi just stop loading pages... fffff Jan 10 00:28:25 dwc-, i have this http://tinypaste.com/9f52a854 Jan 10 00:28:41 sorry, I should rephrase... what are you TRYING to do Jan 10 00:29:03 the detailsTapped passes (url) to handleLink which then needs to pass (url) to showOptsUrl which then needs to pass (url) to copyLinkUrl Jan 10 00:29:37 * fxspec06 weeps Jan 10 00:29:39 Anyone can tell me where the database file lives that holds the calendar entries? Jan 10 00:29:40 why do you need a fn inside a fn Jan 10 00:30:01 so you can fn while you fn Jan 10 00:30:04 why can't you just call the other fn Jan 10 00:30:05 dwc-, i was thinking it would solve my problem by getting (url) from the parent function Jan 10 00:30:05 because fn fn Jan 10 00:30:06 * sugardave laughs and laughs. Jan 10 00:30:15 pass it as an argument if you want it Jan 10 00:30:23 or alternatively Jan 10 00:30:26 how can a fn argue w/ a fn Jan 10 00:30:31 the term you're looking for is 'lambda' Jan 10 00:33:45 lol sugardave Jan 10 00:34:09 * PatrickC wonders if he'll ever figure it out haha Jan 10 00:34:15 me too Jan 10 00:34:17 ive been working on this for the past 2 days Jan 10 00:34:21 * fxspec06 doubts it Jan 10 00:34:22 * PatrickC shakes head in shame Jan 10 00:34:33 arent you building a twitter client? Jan 10 00:34:39 yes Jan 10 00:34:41 well, helping Jan 10 00:35:31 it came prebuilt Jan 10 00:35:45 PatrickC: use a global string variable Jan 10 00:35:54 * dwc- twitches Jan 10 00:36:00 fxspec06, actually, partially it did :P Jan 10 00:36:10 this is all built off of phnc Jan 10 00:36:12 phnx* Jan 10 00:36:52 akanster, ill look into it Jan 10 00:37:47 no, you should probably continue with the path you are currently taking Jan 10 00:37:59 "the detailsTapped passes (url) to handleLink which then needs to pass (url) to showOptsUrl which then needs to pass (url) to copyLinkUrl" Jan 10 00:38:23 don't use a global variable Jan 10 00:38:45 yeah, make it a constant instead Jan 10 00:38:46 Tibfib_, srsly? or joking? Jan 10 00:38:50 haha Jan 10 00:38:58 decisions, decisions. Jan 10 00:38:58 sugardave: well played Jan 10 00:40:40 looks like you went from "Hello World" to "let's build twitter app" in 3 mins Jan 10 00:41:17 i came onto the app's team mainly for keeping it looking nice on the phones. i now have more responsibilities lol Jan 10 00:41:26 he took it slow. most people skip hello world Jan 10 00:41:30 that is a big word Jan 10 00:42:26 no offense but if you don't know how to pass variables between functions, don't muck around shared code Jan 10 00:44:31 trial and error works every time Jan 10 00:45:25 given infinite time, yes Jan 10 00:45:58 or luck or the ability to analyze success/failure in non-linear ways Jan 10 00:46:12 but hey, infinite time is a non-zero possibility Jan 10 00:47:02 soooo, keep on keeping on! Jan 10 00:47:18 the GW Bush method Jan 10 00:48:44 60% of the time it works every time Jan 10 00:48:55 Sex Panther Jan 10 00:50:26 bah, I need to commit more Jan 10 00:50:35 I always forget what I did by the time I make the commit message Jan 10 00:50:55 what are u working on Tibfib_ ? Jan 10 00:51:11 nomnomnom Jan 10 00:51:33 ah Jan 10 00:53:29 I love lamp Jan 10 01:08:20 http://tinyurl.com/6tx3g4a Jan 10 01:08:30 what an incredible idea Jan 10 01:08:38 (pun unintended) Jan 10 01:09:09 lol Jan 10 01:09:31 I like that it's called yoga Jan 10 01:10:04 more imaginative than "transformer" and "transformer prime" Jan 10 01:10:51 it's an apt description Jan 10 01:11:48 man. its been a while since i did any enyo dev lol Jan 10 01:12:50 is that a translation for "be prepared team, i'm gonna need some help in a bit!" ? Jan 10 01:13:05 yes. Jan 10 01:13:07 not yet.. lol Jan 10 01:13:14 gotta get the UI set up Jan 10 01:14:08 I'll let someone else take this one Jan 10 01:14:17 but actually, i think i might do C Jan 10 01:14:54 makes sense.. Jan 10 01:16:33 or java.. Jan 10 01:16:43 * PatrickC is in a learning mood tonight... Jan 10 01:16:51 lulz Jan 10 01:16:54 lulz Jan 10 01:16:57 and just a "lets see what else i can crash" mood lol Jan 10 01:17:30 is it possible to watch bliptv videos on ze touchpad? Jan 10 01:17:39 Pascal is cool Jan 10 01:17:40 any workarounds yet? Jan 10 01:17:47 lisp! Jan 10 01:17:57 or node Jan 10 01:18:01 i think ill do node Jan 10 01:18:07 FORTRAN > * Jan 10 01:18:08 lol Jan 10 01:18:09 * PatrickC reboots to linux Jan 10 01:18:29 10 goto 20 Jan 10 01:18:32 20 goto 10 Jan 10 01:18:36 30 end Jan 10 01:18:37 dundundun! Jan 10 01:18:53 go to not goto Jan 10 01:18:59 * akanster has no life Jan 10 01:18:59 * fxspec06 fails Jan 10 01:19:01 no, goto is right Jan 10 01:19:06 really? Jan 10 01:19:08 goto === BASIC Jan 10 01:19:15 w00t ! Jan 10 01:19:24 well, Commie BASIC at least Jan 10 01:19:36 basic is always commie Jan 10 01:19:58 it's the basic i learned in 9th grade. i didn't know there was commie and republic basic Jan 10 01:20:17 there's also fascist basic Jan 10 01:20:19 http://www.fortran.com/F77_std/rjcnf0001-sh-11.html#sh-11.1 <-- GO TO Jan 10 01:20:21 republic basic and empire basic? Jan 10 01:21:28 akanster: does fortran use line numbers? Jan 10 01:21:34 yeah Jan 10 01:21:57 oh, nevermind then. I thought it was basic from the line numberings and goto Jan 10 01:22:23 i don't know any fortran. so i was writing basic Jan 10 01:22:36 although i wouldn't mind taking a fortran class Jan 10 01:22:38 drugs! Jan 10 01:23:21 * akanster learnt basic first Jan 10 01:24:04 I think my old code should be on floppies somewhere Jan 10 01:25:02 don't copy that floppy!!! Jan 10 01:26:43 sure Jan 10 01:26:51 you got it Jan 10 01:27:06 also, don't notch the other side of this "single-sided" disk Jan 10 01:27:47 but how else am I going to write protect it Jan 10 01:28:25 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph_-SLXbDPE&sns=fb Jan 10 01:28:30 makes me smile :P Jan 10 01:30:18 lmfao Jan 10 01:30:54 i remember downloading all of those mp3's off kazaa Jan 10 01:31:30 I like the mr. rolling cooler cooler roller one Jan 10 01:31:41 http://itlego.tumblr.com/post/15561175917/skyrim Jan 10 01:31:43 epic legos! Jan 10 01:31:59 "sure, we need a beer this cold... if we're running wind sprints at the bottom of an active volcano" Jan 10 01:32:20 dawm, long time no see! Jan 10 01:32:30 akanster, i work at the airport :P which is why that video is hliarious Jan 10 01:32:31 whoever built that has way to much time on their hands lo Jan 10 01:32:33 lol* Jan 10 01:32:33 cause yeah.. Jan 10 01:32:41 if it says 'fragile' that means drop and kick me Jan 10 01:34:45 I had friends that worked for UPS. They claimed they threw shit around just for kicks Jan 10 01:35:30 lol... 14 year old son to 16 year old son .. "is brown sugar a component of pie crust?" 16 year old responds "f--- you, i don't know". for some reason that made me laugh Jan 10 01:35:48 lol Jan 10 01:36:08 your sons use the f word around you? Jan 10 01:36:19 oh Jan 10 01:36:27 i read that as if he said F DASH DASH DASH Jan 10 01:36:31 :P Jan 10 01:36:58 dawm, im guessing Ailium is dead? Jan 10 01:37:04 not everything is a literal expression Jan 10 01:37:40 yeah no real interest in webos these days, no interest in droid or ios either Jan 10 01:38:15 still hate android, but im tolerating it Jan 10 01:38:35 if you have a droid and want something like ailium, just get the game called COLLAPSE (has a bomb for an icon) Jan 10 01:38:37 anyone found a decent screen protector for the pre3? Jan 10 01:38:40 its essentially the same game Jan 10 01:42:14 dawm, the only droid i have is cm7 on the touchpad :) Jan 10 01:45:34 hewball, I just ordered the skinomi one Jan 10 01:46:28 ahh nice ill give it a try thanks Jan 10 01:47:18 I like the skinomi one for my touchpad, so I'll try this one (I don't have it yet) Jan 10 01:48:15 i think i have one of those for my touchpad, i should really put it on Jan 10 01:48:17 i dont like screen protectors. i can never get all the little air bubbles out lol Jan 10 01:49:06 i got 1 scratch on my glass on the pre3 so i started using protectors i got from ebay, a soft type and solid type they are both crap Jan 10 01:49:52 both last a week before unusable, cant see screen Jan 10 01:50:20 wow, that's some hardcore phone usage Jan 10 01:50:47 I won't even let my pre3 be in a pocket until I get my screen protector on it Jan 10 01:50:48 i use my pre2 for curling too, go through about 6 per week Jan 10 01:51:05 summer here, so phone ends up in pocket with wallet and keys Jan 10 01:51:12 damn shorts and 1 pocket Jan 10 01:51:21 *twitch* Jan 10 01:52:04 the little carry pouch helps, but usually forget to take it Jan 10 01:53:56 carry pouch is awesome! Jan 10 01:54:22 my pre+ came with a little pouch, but my pre3 didn't :( Jan 10 01:56:02 really? >> http://i.imgur.com/v6ims.png Jan 10 02:05:55 what, the typo? Jan 10 02:05:56 or jeff bagwell Jan 10 02:12:25 the typo lol Jan 10 02:12:46 it's probably funnier because i know the girl, and she's really not very smart. Jan 10 02:12:55 she finished 161st out of 162 in our class Jan 10 02:13:27 and the 162nd was this mentally challenged girl Jan 10 02:17:40 ouch Jan 10 02:18:17 she put out? Jan 10 02:19:43 lol Jan 10 02:20:40 yes, but not to me. Jan 10 02:27:14 so you're saying she was smart enough not to sleep with you? Jan 10 02:28:43 s/not to/to not Jan 10 02:29:04 hmmm, I think I may set up tumblr for tibfib.com Jan 10 02:31:31 #1 trend :) http://www.google.com/trends Jan 10 02:38:47 live blogging of the microsoft keynore (for those that care) http://news.mobileroundup.com/live/ Jan 10 02:48:51 dangit xcode Jan 10 02:49:22 "Command /Developer/usr/bin/ibtool failed with exit code 255" Jan 10 02:55:43 huzzah google Jan 10 02:55:44 I love you Jan 10 02:55:53 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7807719/xcode-4-2-is-missing-the-ios5-sdk-for-the-simulator **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jan 10 02:59:58 2012