**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jan 13 02:59:57 2012
Jan 13 03:00:12 <fxspec06> but the convenience of not making them. i'm really not good at making food
Jan 13 03:00:48 <fxspec06> oh hey, there's a huge "tell us what you think of our reports" square in the app portal
Jan 13 03:01:02 <fxspec06> i think they want me to click it
Jan 13 03:01:15 <wrea> im not food at baking and I can surprising make them
Jan 13 03:01:19 <wrea> I think so too :P
Jan 13 03:04:06 <fxspec06> ugh. i'm terrible at grading things 1 - 10.
Jan 13 03:04:19 <fxspec06> so wait like a 6 is a D and a 5 is failing
Jan 13 03:57:44 <PatrickC> hey guys
Jan 13 03:57:50 <PatrickC> http://news.mobileroundup.com/live/
Jan 13 03:58:34 <halfhalo> bah ces
Jan 13 03:58:45 <halfhalo> to many people
Jan 13 03:58:50 <halfhalo> not enough rum
Jan 13 03:59:03 <summatusmentis> why is all the rum gone?
Jan 13 03:59:30 <summatusmentis> I feel like 3.0.5 is quicker
Jan 13 04:01:25 <summatusmentis> and it totally fixed the weird scrolling stuff in NomNomNom (or possible that's the new version)
Jan 13 04:01:48 <PatrickC> i love the new email client
Jan 13 04:02:02 <summatusmentis> it's... just email?
Jan 13 04:02:29 <halfhalo> its like... exactly the same
Jan 13 04:02:36 <halfhalo> also, i drank the rum
Jan 13 04:02:42 <PatrickC> the way that it displays the messages is different
Jan 13 04:02:59 <summatusmentis> although, the sped up calendar is nice
Jan 13 04:03:24 <PatrickC> havent taken a look at it yet
Jan 13 04:03:27 <PatrickC> that*
Jan 13 04:03:52 <summatusmentis> is there a feed for "not-yet-officially-ported" patches?
Jan 13 04:03:57 <summatusmentis> does anyone know?
Jan 13 04:04:28 <PatrickC> i dont think so
Jan 13 04:04:37 <PatrickC> #webos-internals would probably be the best place to ask that
Jan 13 04:04:46 <halfhalo> or would it...
Jan 13 04:08:40 * halfhalo has more rum!
Jan 13 04:12:13 <EricBlade-TP> hi
Jan 13 04:12:42 <halfhalo> rum.
Jan 13 04:13:04 * halfhalo goes to watch pirates.  for the rum.
Jan 13 04:23:34 * PatrickC 's wanting to be on a different carrier then sprint was confirmed tonight
Jan 13 04:24:00 <summatusmentis> d'you have gsm phones? are you in an area where t-mobile works well?
Jan 13 04:24:06 * halfhalo goes to play bf3.  more people should play it
Jan 13 04:24:41 <PatrickC> i have GSM phones, yes. not sure about the coverage though
Jan 13 04:24:51 <PatrickC> i can just get a cell repeater like i have for sprint
Jan 13 04:25:20 <summatusmentis> my point is, Simple Mobile works pretty well, and has a $40/mo unlimited voice/text/EDGE plan
Jan 13 04:25:20 <halfhalo> or get a non crappy carrier
Jan 13 04:25:21 <PatrickC> i have 3 pre2's and 1 pre3
Jan 13 04:25:33 <PatrickC> halfhalo, theres something called a contract
Jan 13 04:25:49 <halfhalo> tmo worked fine in my vzw pre3.  30 a month for unlimted data, 100 minutes, and texts
Jan 13 04:25:51 <PatrickC> and no, i dont have the money to pay the etf or i would
Jan 13 04:25:57 <halfhalo> contracts were made to be broken!
Jan 13 04:26:04 <PatrickC> but... EDGE...
Jan 13 04:26:14 <halfhalo> and/or nullified due to contract changes by sprint
Jan 13 04:26:40 <summatusmentis> halfhalo: what plan was that?
Jan 13 04:26:50 <halfhalo> online prepaid
Jan 13 04:26:54 <summatusmentis> rly?
Jan 13 04:26:59 <halfhalo> yup
Jan 13 04:27:07 <summatusmentis> linkplz?
Jan 13 04:27:13 <halfhalo> google
Jan 13 04:27:23 <summatusmentis> le sigh
Jan 13 04:27:27 <halfhalo> i r bf3ing
Jan 13 04:27:30 <summatusmentis> you're so demanding
Jan 13 04:28:09 <halfhalo> damn straight
Jan 13 04:28:31 <summatusmentis> I see a $30 160 mins, 90-day "Pay as you Go" pricing
Jan 13 04:28:37 <summatusmentis> but it says nothing about texts/data
Jan 13 04:28:56 <summatusmentis> wait
Jan 13 04:29:05 <summatusmentis> boom, there it is
Jan 13 04:29:21 * summatusmentis ponders minute overage charges
Jan 13 04:29:58 * halfhalo wins
Jan 13 04:30:11 <fxspec06> when carriers charge over, nobody wins
Jan 13 04:30:58 <summatusmentis> I almost never use minutes, but I wonder what would happen if I went over
Jan 13 04:31:09 <summatusmentis> I wonder if they'd just shut me down
Jan 13 04:34:47 <EricBlade-TP> wow they broight in the mini icon bug to 2.2.4
Jan 13 04:36:11 <summatusmentis> halfhalo: holy hell, I can't get over the t-mobile thing
Jan 13 04:36:18 <summatusmentis> and they roam on AT&T right?
Jan 13 04:36:26 <PatrickC> EricBlade-TP, "mini icon"?
Jan 13 04:36:30 * PatrickC just finished a paper on webOS
Jan 13 04:36:37 <halfhalo> dunno if tmo roams atm
Jan 13 04:36:50 <halfhalo> but they have an agreement to use att 3g now due to the failed merger
Jan 13 04:37:00 <EricBlade-TP> yeah the miniicon for things shows up allgarbled in the banner bar
Jan 13 04:37:12 <PatrickC> ah
Jan 13 04:37:24 <PatrickC> yeah, that was a bug that me and Abysull were talking about
Jan 13 04:37:29 <PatrickC> making sure they were the same bug :)
Jan 13 04:37:51 * PatrickC thinks he found a way to go back to his pre without getting the $10 charge tagged onto his account :D
Jan 13 04:39:41 * PatrickC goes to see if he can reslove his bug in his app
Jan 13 04:40:41 <summatusmentis> halfhalo: at that price, I have no reason to stay on SERO, except maybe coverage
Jan 13 04:41:05 <PatrickC> http://www.flickr.com/photos/webosroundup/6686896999/in/photostream/
Jan 13 04:42:59 <wrea> or you can practice on a real guitar
Jan 13 04:43:43 <EricBlade-TP> the photos app can comment diretly on facebook.. is that new?
Jan 13 04:44:25 <summatusmentis> wait, halfhalo, agreement to use att 3g means that... even webOS devices can get the higher-speed data?
Jan 13 04:45:57 <halfhalo> summatusmentis yesish, but doubtfull as of right now.  down the line maybe
Jan 13 04:46:00 <EricBlade-TP> tmobile will probably never turn that on, they dont give a f... about their customers
Jan 13 04:46:22 <halfhalo> some iphone users on tmo have seen 3g on tmo before
Jan 13 04:46:27 <summatusmentis> none of the cell companies do
Jan 13 04:46:39 <summatusmentis> that's not new or different
Jan 13 04:46:58 <EricBlade-TP> well probably right but at least verizon cares that their customers dont have a shit experience
Jan 13 04:47:25 <EricBlade-TP> i finwlly got a working call thru to tmos customer service, i had to go to chicago to do it
Jan 13 04:47:35 <EricBlade-TP> they told me iwas lying about how bad my service is
Jan 13 04:47:58 <summatusmentis> hmm
Jan 13 04:48:22 <summatusmentis> I feel like it'd be in their own interest to turn it on
Jan 13 04:49:28 * EricBlade-TP notes that he has no service from tmo at the locwtion hes at now.  had no service in most of wisconsin and indiana too
Jan 13 04:49:40 <EricBlade-TP> chicago worked, downtown madison worked as long as i didnt go inside
Jan 13 04:49:55 <EricBlade-TP> actually downtown madison i was able to hit 200kbps consistently
Jan 13 04:50:00 <EricBlade-TP> i normwlly get 3kbps
Jan 13 04:50:03 <summatusmentis> of the places I've tried it (through Simple Mobile) I've had pretty good service
Jan 13 04:50:16 <summatusmentis> and the places I didn't, didn't have sprint or vzw service either
Jan 13 04:50:37 <summatusmentis> (been carrying my veer and pre2 around, to test the veer)
Jan 13 04:52:27 <EricBlade-TP> i dont think my gf's sprint rumor had any less than4 bars at any time i looked at it. we had it on turn by turn the entire route
Jan 13 04:54:23 <PatrickC> wow. loving the new sublime text 2 update!
Jan 13 04:59:44 <PatrickC> http://tinypaste.com/7d9a8281 <- the this.url is defined in my initialize function (where other functions work fine) but it returns [object Object] when called
Jan 13 04:59:57 <PatrickC> im assuming thats JSON, so how would i turn that into readable JS?
Jan 13 05:02:52 <EricBlade-TP> i reqd json not js
Jan 13 05:03:17 <PatrickC> huh>
Jan 13 05:03:19 <PatrickC> ?*
Jan 13 05:15:34 <EricBlade-TP> i cant read js unless its in json format
Jan 13 05:21:26 <PatrickC> ah
Jan 13 05:26:00 * PatrickC was hoping that Just Type would have been easier
Jan 13 05:33:26 <PatrickC> hey invalidopcode
Jan 13 05:33:31 <invalidopcode> hey
Jan 13 05:33:41 <EricBlade-TP> justtype is easy
Jan 13 05:33:52 <EricBlade-TP> well depends on what you want to do withit
Jan 13 05:33:54 <PatrickC> EricBlade-TP, i cant get it to even launch what its suppose to do
Jan 13 05:34:18 <EricBlade-TP> i was amazed how easy it is
Jan 13 05:34:18 <PatrickC> im gonna feel real stupid if this is the reason it wasnt working lol
Jan 13 05:34:40 <EricBlade-TP> well at least for actions. search rquires learning db8
Jan 13 05:34:52 <PatrickC> im doing actions
Jan 13 05:35:08 <PatrickC> but the way i call my compose scene is weird
Jan 13 05:36:57 <PatrickC> and now im getting some weird error :/
Jan 13 05:42:02 <PatrickC> hey dkirker
Jan 13 05:42:31 <invalidopcode> PatrickC: are you the welcoming committee for #webos? :P
Jan 13 05:42:41 <PatrickC> haha sometimes :)
Jan 13 05:42:45 <PatrickC> depends on who it is :P
Jan 13 05:42:51 <invalidopcode> ah hahaha
Jan 13 05:43:17 <dkirker> hi PatrickC
Jan 13 05:48:58 <PatrickC> hrmm..
Jan 13 05:49:26 <PuffTheMagic> http://ompldr.org/vYzg4ZA/wterm_2012-13-01_003916.png
Jan 13 05:50:15 <invalidopcode> PuffTheMagic: what keyboard is that?
Jan 13 05:50:31 <summatusmentis> his special one
Jan 13 05:50:32 <PatrickC> the wTerm i think, right?
Jan 13 05:50:39 <invalidopcode> ah, cool
Jan 13 05:50:49 <invalidopcode> is wterm in preware yet?
Jan 13 05:50:55 <summatusmentis> yeh
Jan 13 05:50:58 <summatusmentis> beta feeds?
Jan 13 05:51:12 <invalidopcode> ah, i meant in the stable feeds
Jan 13 05:51:21 <summatusmentis> oh, that I don't know
Jan 13 05:51:33 <invalidopcode> oh, ok'
Jan 13 05:51:58 <PuffTheMagic> its out of beta feeds
Jan 13 05:52:07 <summatusmentis> oh?
Jan 13 05:52:34 <PuffTheMagic> for like a week
Jan 13 05:52:44 <PuffTheMagic> u must not get my tweets
Jan 13 05:52:44 <PatrickC> that i didnt know
Jan 13 05:52:46 <summatusmentis> PuffTheMagic: as an HCI grad student, it's completely not obvious that you have to long-tap to open the PDF in wEndeley
Jan 13 05:52:49 <PatrickC> congrats PuffTheMagic :)
Jan 13 05:53:05 <summatusmentis> I do, they just get mixed in with everything else
Jan 13 05:53:09 <invalidopcode> ohhh, ok i haven't been in preware this last week or two
Jan 13 05:53:50 <PuffTheMagic> summatusmentis, fork and change it :D submit a merge request
Jan 13 05:53:55 <invalidopcode> summatusmentis: what's HCI?
Jan 13 05:54:06 <PuffTheMagic> human computer interaction
Jan 13 05:54:06 <summatusmentis> invalidopcode: Human Computer Interaction
Jan 13 05:54:28 <summatusmentis> PuffTheMagic: heh, yeah, in all my spare time
Jan 13 05:54:28 <invalidopcode> summatusmentis: oh cool... there's a major for that?
Jan 13 05:54:44 <summatusmentis> invalidopcode: I mean, officially I'm a CS PhD student
Jan 13 05:54:50 <summatusmentis> just working in the HCI field
Jan 13 05:55:05 <summatusmentis> and with the HCI research group
Jan 13 05:55:17 <invalidopcode> ah ok cool
Jan 13 05:55:25 <PuffTheMagic> my masters was very related to hci
Jan 13 05:55:37 <PuffTheMagic> so is the phd I'm working on
Jan 13 05:55:46 <PuffTheMagic> I should know better
Jan 13 05:55:54 <summatusmentis> http://grouplens.org/ that's us
Jan 13 05:56:00 <summatusmentis> PuffTheMagic: you should indeed :-P
Jan 13 05:56:04 <invalidopcode> my school is considering an AP class for Computer Science... idk if im going to take it though, im more interested in Computer Engineering
Jan 13 05:56:09 <PuffTheMagic> though I thought j had a reason for long tap
Jan 13 05:56:25 <PuffTheMagic> you need CS in CE
Jan 13 05:56:33 <summatusmentis> invalidopcode: take it
Jan 13 05:56:36 <summatusmentis> absolutely
Jan 13 05:56:44 <PuffTheMagic> first half of CE undergrad is CS
Jan 13 05:57:09 <invalidopcode> really? is it like actual programming/practical stuff, cause my understanding was that it was mostly theory stuff
Jan 13 05:57:15 <PuffTheMagic> I know so many CE drop outs cause they didn't realize that
Jan 13 05:57:38 <summatusmentis> invalidopcode: I assume some of it is programming, and even theory stuff is "practical"
Jan 13 05:57:41 <sugardave> arg, this is pissing me off
Jan 13 05:57:51 <summatusmentis> doesn't always feel like it, but it is
Jan 13 05:58:06 <sugardave> it should not be this difficult to do variable height virtual list items that contain a horizontal scroller....seriously
Jan 13 05:58:10 <invalidopcode> ah ok
Jan 13 05:58:32 <summatusmentis> invalidopcode: besides, more experience is good
Jan 13 05:58:34 <summatusmentis> always
Jan 13 05:58:49 <invalidopcode> yeah thats true
Jan 13 05:59:18 <invalidopcode> i just don't want to waste a bunch of time on theory that i may never use
Jan 13 06:02:30 <fxspec06> audio glitch is still present in 3.0.5 btw
Jan 13 06:02:39 <PatrickC> ugh..
Jan 13 06:02:45 <invalidopcode> fxspec06: the fuzzy audio one?
Jan 13 06:02:52 <PatrickC> what about accelerometer (or however u spell it. im tired lol)
Jan 13 06:03:14 <fxspec06> invalidopcode: yes.
Jan 13 06:03:19 <fxspec06> got it RN
Jan 13 06:03:20 <invalidopcode> ugh
Jan 13 06:03:26 <fxspec06> yep
Jan 13 06:03:32 <fxspec06> the ONE THING i wanted fixed. is not fixzed.
Jan 13 06:03:37 <invalidopcode> is 3.0.5 out of beta yet?
Jan 13 06:03:49 <fxspec06> it's available for download
Jan 13 06:04:12 <PatrickC> invalidopcode, u must not keep tabs on WOR or webOSnation :)
Jan 13 06:04:51 <invalidopcode> PatrickC: nope, haha i've been busy with school, plus watching those when you don't have a working device is no fun :P
Jan 13 06:04:59 <PatrickC> :P
Jan 13 06:05:04 <PatrickC> send it back yet?
Jan 13 06:05:19 <invalidopcode> yup. i sent it back yesterday
Jan 13 06:05:24 <PatrickC> nice
Jan 13 06:05:38 * PatrickC will hopefully have an activated pre again tues/wed
Jan 13 06:06:19 <invalidopcode> nice
Jan 13 06:06:39 <PatrickC> if i can get around the system and go back that far :)
Jan 13 06:06:42 <PuffTheMagic> ssh in wterm is fun
Jan 13 06:07:08 <PatrickC> with sprint, if you get an AE (Advandced Exchange) u can go back to the previous phone within 30 days if you dont like the new phone
Jan 13 06:07:15 <PatrickC> well, the pre was 2 phones ago (and under 30 days)
Jan 13 06:07:21 <PatrickC> so hoping i can roll back the 2 phones :)
Jan 13 06:07:43 <invalidopcode> ah cool
Jan 13 06:19:26 <EricBlade-TP> i have to wonder if anyone at hp has experienced the audio problem
Jan 13 06:20:05 <invalidopcode> EricBlade-TP: they don't use touchpads, they all have HP Slates :P
Jan 13 06:20:40 <EricBlade-TP> :(
Jan 13 06:21:52 * PatrickC is off to bed
Jan 13 06:21:53 <PatrickC> night all
Jan 13 06:22:08 <invalidopcode> night PatrickC
Jan 13 06:25:20 * invalidopcode has to convince his school that Wifi is safe
Jan 13 06:25:30 <EricBlade-TP> its not
Jan 13 06:25:45 <invalidopcode> i would disagree
Jan 13 06:28:20 <EricBlade-TP> i wasjust being contrary
Jan 13 06:28:22 <invalidopcode> though EricBlade-TP are just being facetious
Jan 13 06:28:26 <invalidopcode> oh haha ok
Jan 13 06:28:58 <invalidopcode> the next person at that tells me wifi is harmful im doing to WAP with a WAP
Jan 13 06:32:16 <invalidopcode> its funny though, because like if i take the wifi offline for like 5 mins to work in it, i get all the teachers on my case haha
Jan 13 06:33:17 <EricBlade-TP> battery on 3.0.5 is good at least.  even with skype open, im only draining a bit over 10% an hour under heavy usage
Jan 13 10:01:28 <madnificent> is there an easy way to see which applications are taking up cpu time?  it seems something has slowed my veer down.  i can't quite figure out what it is though.
Jan 13 10:03:13 <madnificent> or some log i should definately check or anything of the likes
Jan 13 10:09:06 <madnificent> hmm, any ideas why PmWsfDaemon would throw errors on me?
Jan 13 10:09:13 <madnificent> urecognized ifindex 6
Jan 13 10:22:52 <madnificent> i think i made it really angry now
Jan 13 10:25:24 <Shiggs|MB> test
Jan 13 10:25:25 <Shiggs|MB> k
Jan 13 10:25:31 * Shiggs|MB installs webOS 3.0.5.86
Jan 13 10:25:39 <Shiggs|MB> I wonder what'll be new
Jan 13 10:25:41 <Shiggs|MB> or fixed
Jan 13 10:26:45 <stbuehler> 2nd try installing it now, first failed as last time with 3.0.4
Jan 13 10:27:28 <stbuehler> if at least i wouldn't have to redownload it every time...
Jan 13 10:28:24 <madnificent> stbuehler: annoying
Jan 13 10:28:27 <stbuehler> well
Jan 13 10:28:30 <stbuehler> failed again
Jan 13 10:28:40 <stbuehler> so it probably dosn't liky cyanogenmod
Jan 13 10:30:22 <madnificent> sigh, why did people first virtually get the touchpad for free, only to install another os on it afterwards.  have a little respect for the awesome that webos is
Jan 13 10:34:38 <stbuehler> i hope you don't have a windows installed somewhere, as linux is obviously the superior os.
Jan 13 10:35:26 <madnificent> not quite sure what you're aiming for there
Jan 13 10:37:59 <Shiggs|MB> mine installed fine first time
Jan 13 10:39:40 <Shiggs|MB> whoa I like this addition: Auto-correction can be turned off directly from the onscreen keyboard.
Jan 13 10:50:32 <madnificent> is it odd that i still have debug messages in /var/log/messages which appeared in the log file after i set the logging to error?
Jan 13 10:51:40 <madnificent> and info messages for that matter
Jan 13 11:19:47 <KaiNeR> anything good in the new update
Jan 13 11:24:23 <stbuehler> 2012-01-13T11:06:04.856191Z [113] webos-device user.err UpdateDaemon: {updatedaemon}: [Send: 1049]: request not sent. error [35]: Unknown SSL protocol error in connection to ps.palmws.com:443
Jan 13 11:24:27 <stbuehler> uhm
Jan 13 11:25:45 <stbuehler> madnificent: what is your fucking problem with me installing cyanogenmod? i just like to have both, why would i bother to update webos anyway?
Jan 13 11:29:30 <KaiNeR> cyanogen works with the latest webos
Jan 13 11:30:50 <stbuehler> well, i removed the boot loader for android, so now it either works or it wasn't a cyanogenmod problem
Jan 13 13:23:53 <madnificent> stbuehler: i find the fate of the touchpad to be sad.  i don't particularly dislike installing multiple operating systems on it.
Jan 13 13:28:19 <moofree_> i want to get meego running on the touchpad
Jan 13 13:28:49 <moofree_> for the novelty of more than one "discontinued" operating system
Jan 13 13:29:33 <moofree_> also waiting for some hacker somewhere to shoehorn ios onto a non apple device :3
Jan 13 13:36:49 <amd> hey fxspec06:
Jan 13 14:32:47 <directhex> moofree_, i'm getting my n9 next week :p
Jan 13 15:02:57 <madnificent> does anyone here have a clue as to whether or not setting palm-log to error should ensure that there are no info messages in /var/log/messages?
Jan 13 15:14:22 <pc-world> Any Spanish users here? What does "tools" mean in Spanish? Need this for app submissions...
Jan 13 15:15:11 <pc-world> ok I guess it's "herramienta"
Jan 13 15:28:38 <dwc-> stbuehler: set your clock
Jan 13 15:30:54 <stbuehler> dwc-: i removed some package from preware (navit+deps, openvpn, ... - i had no patches), installed the *.ipk from /var/lib/update and pulled the usb plug - then it worked. don't ask me which part did it :)
Jan 13 17:58:00 <EricBlade> lol looks like t-mobile cancelled my data service now after all the complaining.
Jan 13 17:58:23 <fxspec06> should i package wild'n free as a "fat" app
Jan 13 17:58:42 <fxspec06> i mean everyone has enyo, right
Jan 13 17:58:50 <fxspec06> i can just do the 'upgrade to enyo' thing
Jan 13 17:59:28 <DougReeder> Yeah everone should have Enyo, but does your app work under Enyo on Phones?
Jan 13 18:00:30 <fxspec06> yes, yes it does lol
Jan 13 18:00:47 <fxspec06> the pay version is out RN. it's one of the few apps that runs the same on every webos device
Jan 13 18:01:08 <DougReeder> That's good. I need the People Picker, which doesn't
Jan 13 18:01:28 <fxspec06> ya i'm just going to go ahead and package and submit.
Jan 13 18:01:40 <dwc-> you can always package it "fat" and detect whether enyo is available
Jan 13 18:01:43 <DougReeder> rn?
Jan 13 18:01:44 <fxspec06> if something's wrong, i'm pretty sure i'll hear from one of the 28,000 ppl
Jan 13 18:01:53 <fxspec06> rn / right now
Jan 13 18:04:22 <fxspec06> ya it's a pretty big update, i need to do it. ppl moaning about speed of the free version, and since the pay version is fixed i need to update free version as well to reflect that.
Jan 13 18:04:32 <fxspec06> i'd rather just not do mojo, period
Jan 13 18:06:14 <DougReeder> Mojo was a time-consuming detour.
Jan 13 18:06:56 <DougReeder> But it's not clear there was a better mobile UI framework in 2008.
Jan 13 18:07:57 <fxspec06> ugh wth i need screenshots now =(
Jan 13 18:37:17 <jcerwinske_tp> anyone update 3.0.5 safely while having modified /etc/fstab?
Jan 13 18:42:09 <madnificent> jcerwinske_tp: i've heard about some issues and metadoctoring in that respect
Jan 13 18:42:49 <jcerwinske_tp> yeah i have my ext3 ubuntu and deb chroots automounted
Jan 13 18:43:34 <madnificent> i don't know the specifics, sorry
Jan 13 18:43:46 <jcerwinske_tp> np
Jan 13 18:45:24 <jcerwinske_tp> well, guess I'm about to find out...
Jan 13 19:14:19 <fxspec06> http://www.webosnation.com/cyanogenmod-9-bring-android-ice-cream-sandwich-touchpad
Jan 13 19:16:38 <RagingMind> ick
Jan 13 19:20:29 <dwc-> neat
Jan 13 19:29:09 <dwc-> touchpad getting ICS before a bunch of official android devices ;)
Jan 13 19:37:30 <fxspec06> there's more touchpad android tablets than there are official android tablets
Jan 13 20:14:07 <PuffTheMagic> http://ompldr.org/vYzhxOQ/wterm_2012-13-01_145709.png
Jan 13 20:16:36 <panel> hello2all
Jan 13 21:00:42 <EricBlade1> hmm. box.net is attached to synergy documents.. anyway anyone knows to connect that to photos?
Jan 13 21:14:27 <fxspec06> http://www.webosnation.com/webos-3-0-5-update-makes-future-built-in-app-updates-more-flexible
Jan 13 21:14:58 <fxspec06> could that be part of open source plan
Jan 13 21:35:15 <EricBlade1> there was talk of there being work done to go towards that long before the open source announcement, i think starting right around the time that the maps update went out.
Jan 13 21:40:37 <RagingMind> since when did email go landscape?
Jan 13 21:47:48 <fxspec06> since 2.x
Jan 13 21:54:19 <EricBlade1> if email wasnt landscape, i'd have thrown my touchpad out
Jan 13 22:03:18 <jcerwinske_tp> woohoo, it's franken pre time!
Jan 13 22:22:43 <RagingMind> well I knew it was on the TP
Jan 13 22:23:09 <RagingMind> but I don't recall ever seeing my phone do it
Jan 13 22:28:03 <dwc-> my phone has done it (2.x)
Jan 13 22:34:10 * sugardave finally got around to purchasing Sublime Text 2.  "They finally nagged me to death."
Jan 13 22:36:25 <Tibfib_> I'm still going strong
Jan 13 22:37:21 <sugardave> I figure I could use some good karma
Jan 13 22:51:11 <wrea> EricBlade1, Yeah, talk of open sourcing enyo was quite a bit before the Dec announcement
Jan 13 22:54:42 <wrea> afaik anyway
Jan 13 23:32:52 <EricBlade1> well i can confirm that at random points, the HTML Audio object stops working, and the only way I've found to get it to restart is rebooting.  Just like 3.0.4. and .0.2. and .0.0. and for that matter all other webkits that i've found.
Jan 13 23:33:46 <Tibfib_> ah, C, nice to meet you
Jan 13 23:34:00 <Tibfib_> I can tell this will be the beginning of a glorious and angry friendship
Jan 13 23:41:19 <wrea> lol
Jan 13 23:44:33 <EricBlade1> i C
Jan 13 23:57:32 <wrea> Yeah, I'm working with C after a long time since I messed with it
Jan 14 00:00:38 <EricBlade1> woot my new client just covered my Apple dev license.  now, i'm just missing open source enyo
Jan 14 00:01:25 <Tibfib_> I've realized I need to expand my skillset to include C/C++…. so here I am.
Jan 14 00:01:55 <Tibfib_> Going forward I may do obj-C for iOS and enyo + phonegap for all other platforms
Jan 14 00:03:56 <fxspec06> i did some obj-C but i want to make a C++ only app
Jan 14 00:04:21 <fxspec06> still need to know some java for droid
Jan 14 00:27:20 <PatrickC> hey guys
Jan 14 00:28:42 <PatrickC> Tibfib_, what tool(s) are you using for your C/C++ dev? and what desktop OS?
Jan 14 00:30:11 <PatrickC> fxspec06, what is the wild'n app for android/iOS build off of? phonegap?
Jan 14 00:30:24 <Tibfib_> xcode, osx
Jan 14 00:30:32 <PatrickC> Tibfib_, ah oj
Jan 14 00:30:33 <PatrickC> ok*
Jan 14 00:52:25 <fxspec06> it's built off of myself
Jan 14 00:52:54 <fxspec06> i am my own phonegap
Jan 14 00:55:45 * PatrickC was about to start WP7 dev, then realized he needs to wait for Sp1 to finish installing :/
Jan 14 00:55:55 <PatrickC> and i cant even do webOs dev right now...
Jan 14 01:46:34 <jcerwinske_pre> Just Franken pre'd...
Jan 14 01:46:43 <jcerwinske_pre> IT'S ALIVE!!!
Jan 14 01:47:26 <jcerwinske_pre> is there no uberkernel yet for 2.2.4 pre 2?
Jan 14 01:47:35 <dwc-> there is
Jan 14 01:48:45 <jcerwinske_pre> don't see it in public feed
Jan 14 01:54:27 * EricBlade1 cheers dkirker
Jan 14 01:54:40 <Tibfib_> huzzah
Jan 14 01:55:04 <dkirker> hi?
Jan 14 01:55:16 <dkirker> hi!
Jan 14 01:55:24 <Tibfib_> was the tap on flick issue resolved with 3.0.5?
Jan 14 01:55:25 * dkirker got his extended battery for his Pre3
Jan 14 01:56:07 <EricBlade1> Tibfib_: seems much worse, imo
Jan 14 01:56:23 <Tibfib_> :ugh:
Jan 14 01:57:08 <EricBlade1> scrollers are really wonky
Jan 14 02:05:23 <EricBlade1> once, i tried to stop a scroller with a list in it from scrolling, and held down on it, and not only did the scroller stop, then start scrolling again, it also multiselected everything in the list that passed under my finger.
Jan 14 02:05:29 <EricBlade1> and it's not a multi-select list.
Jan 14 02:15:13 <fxspec06> o_O
Jan 14 02:15:25 <invalidopcode> -_-
Jan 14 02:34:45 * PatrickC finally wanders back in
Jan 14 02:34:50 * PatrickC mumbles at AT&T
Jan 14 02:35:10 <PatrickC> the Hello World for WP7 isnt that bad
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