**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jan 15 02:59:57 2012
Jan 15 03:00:25 <halfhalo> bull$#%!
Jan 15 03:00:45 <PatrickC> gotta have faith
Jan 15 03:01:23 <Tibfib_> and skill
Jan 15 03:02:18 <PatrickC> the broncos are a 4th quarter team
Jan 15 03:03:08 <halfhalo> Doesn't matter.  NE is going to continue to run all over them.
Jan 15 03:03:24 <PatrickC> we'll see
Jan 15 03:04:18 <halfhalo> the ONLY reason they won last week was ben was hurt.
Jan 15 03:04:29 <rrix> I don't think I've been more bored by IRC since the great netsplits of 2009.
Jan 15 03:04:40 <PatrickC> lol
Jan 15 03:05:08 <halfhalo> meta-meta-meta-doctor!
Jan 15 03:06:41 <halfhalo> I'm juggling two TP's, a xoom, and an air right now... this is not working
Jan 15 03:06:50 <PatrickC> dont drop one
Jan 15 03:06:53 <wrea> glue them all together
Jan 15 03:06:54 <Tibfib_> need moar practice
Jan 15 03:07:03 <Tibfib_> you can start with scarves, then work your way up
Jan 15 03:07:06 <wrea> then you only have to deal with one mega device
Jan 15 03:07:43 <wrea> yes, this is my solution to most things. Sometimes I substitute glue with duct tape though
Jan 15 03:08:16 <Tibfib_> https://twitter.com/#!/ESPNStatsInfo/status/158383699375833090
Jan 15 03:10:29 <halfhalo> ^^WIN
Jan 15 03:11:09 <halfhalo> ugg.  I neet to call att.  this will not be fun.
Jan 15 03:12:05 <wrea> lol
Jan 15 03:12:19 <wrea> I need to call hp before the 27th, dont want to do that
Jan 15 03:12:41 <halfhalo> lol
Jan 15 03:12:53 <halfhalo> new mifi >>>>>> att tethering
Jan 15 03:13:01 <halfhalo> esp when I can just use freetether
Jan 15 03:13:43 <wrea> cant escalate my issue over webchat, so i have to call
Jan 15 03:13:56 <halfhalo> oh, silly bronchos.... fighting a losing battle
Jan 15 03:14:13 <halfhalo> OH WOULD YOU LOOK AT THAT
Jan 15 03:14:59 <cwayne> hahahahahaha
Jan 15 03:15:20 <wrea> apparently i have to send my laptop in to replace the keyboard
Jan 15 03:15:47 <halfhalo> lol
Jan 15 03:16:09 <halfhalo> lulz.  kobesystem.
Jan 15 03:16:47 <cwayne> that was. terrible.
Jan 15 03:17:05 <dwc-> wrea: get a thinkpad!
Jan 15 03:17:22 <rrix> what the hell are water resistant nano coating?
Jan 15 03:17:22 <dwc-> last time I needed a kb replacement, I put it off for a few months because I couldn't be without it
Jan 15 03:17:37 <dwc-> when I called, it turned out they shipped it to me
Jan 15 03:17:45 <rrix> Speaking of, I need to call Lenovo monday and order a new kb
Jan 15 03:17:53 <rrix> thank you for reminding me
Jan 15 03:17:56 <rrix> <3 FRUs
Jan 15 03:18:06 <wrea> I'm justused to corp support where they'll send you a keyboard and you just throw the old one in the trash
Jan 15 03:18:07 <dwc-> so I put up with a broken spacebar and 'n' key for nothing :(
Jan 15 03:18:18 * halfhalo has on site warrenty for his lenovo
Jan 15 03:18:41 <wrea> I'd the uo and down arrows on my keyboard
Jan 15 03:19:08 <cwayne> halfhalo: which lenovo you got?
Jan 15 03:19:13 <halfhalo> T400
Jan 15 03:19:19 <cwayne> nice
Jan 15 03:19:22 <halfhalo> somewhere
Jan 15 03:19:30 <halfhalo> I dunno, its now used as a footrest
Jan 15 03:19:37 <cwayne> daw
Jan 15 03:19:43 <halfhalo> still has a year of warrenty left though
Jan 15 03:22:47 <cwayne> i got a t420s and i love it
Jan 15 03:23:33 <halfhalo> yeah
Jan 15 03:23:37 <halfhalo> the t400 is just old
Jan 15 03:23:42 <halfhalo> battery lasts forever though
Jan 15 03:50:13 <halfhalo> annndddd watching the lakers since the bronchos are done.
Jan 15 03:53:03 <RagingMind> I love my little lenovo :)
Jan 15 03:53:28 <cwayne> RagingMind: what've you got?
Jan 15 03:53:57 <RagingMind> S10
Jan 15 03:55:10 <halfhalo> bah, netbook
Jan 15 03:55:41 <PatrickC> looks like im on linux till i can get windows fixed
Jan 15 03:55:48 <PatrickC> im sure cwayne will be happy :)
Jan 15 03:56:39 <halfhalo> lulz linux
Jan 15 03:56:50 * halfhalo is happy with windows and mac thankyouverymuch
Jan 15 03:57:17 <PatrickC> windows will not boot
Jan 15 03:57:20 <PatrickC> and i dont have a mac
Jan 15 03:57:58 <halfhalo> thars your problem
Jan 15 03:58:17 <PatrickC> i dont have the money for a mac yet
Jan 15 03:58:22 <PatrickC> i need a job first
Jan 15 03:59:03 <halfhalo> lakers are goin to be murdered by the clippers
Jan 15 04:00:08 <halfhalo> also, jobs are gooood, mkay?
Jan 15 04:00:15 <cwayne> lolololol
Jan 15 04:00:19 <dwc-> LA-LA?
Jan 15 04:00:39 <halfhalo> yup
Jan 15 04:00:46 <halfhalo> Thats how awesome we are
Jan 15 04:01:00 <PatrickC> halfhalo, i know jobs are good.... i need to get one first
Jan 15 04:01:25 <dwc-> so awesome the NFL leaves town?
Jan 15 04:01:40 <halfhalo> The _raiders_ left.  not nfl, raiders.  there is a difference
Jan 15 04:01:51 <dwc-> and the rams?
Jan 15 04:01:59 <halfhalo> never existed
Jan 15 04:02:09 <dwc-> I see....
Jan 15 04:02:17 <halfhalo> JUST LIKE YOU
Jan 15 04:04:20 <cwayne> halfhalo: lol.
Jan 15 04:04:41 <halfhalo> don't be hatin
Jan 15 04:04:51 <dwc-> why is halfhalo talking to himself
Jan 15 04:05:31 <halfhalo> rum
Jan 15 04:08:49 <cwayne> halfhalo: respect
Jan 15 04:10:40 <halfhalo> ohohoh, xoom has ustream app!
Jan 15 04:11:19 <halfhalo> finally, a use for that rear camera!
Jan 15 04:16:59 <RagingMind> rum++
Jan 15 04:18:36 * dwc- has no idea what xoom is now that it's not members.xoom.com/....
Jan 15 04:18:36 <halfhalo> omnomnom
Jan 15 04:18:48 <halfhalo> lol
Jan 15 04:24:15 <PatrickC> man.. the pre2 is slow when downloading 200+ apps lol
Jan 15 04:25:27 <halfhalo> only 200? for shame
Jan 15 04:27:53 <PatrickC> i think its closer to 300
Jan 15 04:27:55 <PatrickC> not sure though
Jan 15 04:28:28 <PatrickC> time to find some decent replacements to apps i use daily on windows for linux
Jan 15 04:30:20 <PatrickC> cwayne, mind if i ask u what your preference for email and IM clients are on linux? :)
Jan 15 04:30:37 <cwayne> PatrickC: email i use thunderbird, irc i use pidgin
Jan 15 04:30:40 <cwayne> as most of us
Jan 15 04:30:44 <cwayne> or xchat for irc
Jan 15 04:31:11 <PatrickC> thunderbird liked to lock up windows... ill try it on linux
Jan 15 04:31:24 <PatrickC> and pidgin is what i was thinking for IRC/IM
Jan 15 04:32:22 <cwayne> PatrickC: thunderbird works well on ubuntu
Jan 15 04:32:28 <PatrickC> ill give it a try
Jan 15 04:32:33 <cwayne> and a lot of us use pidgin
Jan 15 04:32:37 <RagingMind> I use evolution and pidgin
Jan 15 04:32:57 <PatrickC> i tried evolution
Jan 15 04:33:13 <PatrickC> didnt much like it
Jan 15 04:33:24 <RagingMind> evolution is nice cause it has support for yahoo's weird imap.  I know there are thunderbird builds with that but not sure of the main version does
Jan 15 04:33:40 <cwayne> idk, it works for gmail imap
Jan 15 04:33:48 <cwayne> and canonical mail :P
Jan 15 04:33:52 <PatrickC> i have a solution for u RagingMind, dont use yahoo :)
Jan 15 04:33:57 <PatrickC> lol
Jan 15 04:34:27 <RagingMind> I've had the same email address since 1998. and I really really f***ing hate gmail
Jan 15 04:34:29 <PatrickC> halfhalo, i agree, the one-app-downloading-at-a-time thing is annoying
Jan 15 04:34:35 <PatrickC> lol
Jan 15 04:34:36 <PatrickC> why?
Jan 15 04:34:58 * halfhalo uses mac mail
Jan 15 04:35:20 <halfhalo> because thunderbird chokes on my emails
Jan 15 04:35:21 <dwc-> I think it's silly
Jan 15 04:35:27 <dwc-> yahoo should just support real imap
Jan 15 04:35:35 <dwc-> it's just one difference and just to annoy people
Jan 15 04:35:43 <dwc-> but e.g. webos can talk to it just fine
Jan 15 04:35:44 <RagingMind> have you ever actually tried to use it? it's infuriating because it's constantly limiting what it lets me do to what it thinks I'm trying to do even when it's just wrong
Jan 15 04:36:31 <RagingMind> it never gets threads right
Jan 15 04:36:34 <PatrickC> ugh.. i dont think i enabled beta feeds on preware
Jan 15 04:36:38 <PatrickC> time to uninstall/reinstall
Jan 15 04:36:51 <dwc-> gmail gets threads right ... if you use imap to access it.
Jan 15 04:37:01 <dwc-> (aka it doesn't :p)
Jan 15 04:37:31 <halfhalo> lulz
Jan 15 04:38:04 <RagingMind> the search must have been programmed by monkeys that were throwing their poo at an abacus
Jan 15 04:38:10 <halfhalo> lol
Jan 15 04:38:30 <dwc-> I find it odd the search is terrible, esp given that google was first a search engine
Jan 15 04:38:46 <halfhalo> meh, I search via mac mail or outlook
Jan 15 04:38:56 <halfhalo> cant stand web email crap
Jan 15 04:39:52 <cwayne> lol
Jan 15 04:40:45 <halfhalo> i have like... 10 email accounts that i check constantly.  its just not feasible to have 10 web pages open for each
Jan 15 04:40:52 <scgtrp> odd, i use webmail because i can't stand outlook-style crap :P
Jan 15 04:41:05 <PatrickC> outlook has come to be an app i depend on lol
Jan 15 04:41:20 <cwayne> not if you wanna use linux
Jan 15 04:41:23 <cwayne> llololololol
Jan 15 04:41:23 <halfhalo> I actually really _like_ outlook 2010.  I just can't use it unless its running off of an ssd
Jan 15 04:41:47 <scgtrp> i just haven't found one with an interface that doesn't drive me insane
Jan 15 04:43:21 <dwc-> I haven't used outlook since 2k3 but it annoyed me to no end
Jan 15 04:45:41 <RagingMind> so that rules out using their awful webmail crap and from imap yahoo and gmail function equivalently.  so I'll stick with my email of over 10 years
Jan 15 04:46:38 <fxspec06> brady
Jan 15 04:46:50 <fxspec06> i use outlook
Jan 15 04:46:58 <fxspec06> it's slow. it sucks. i use it
Jan 15 04:47:16 <fxspec06> WLM was nice but outlook has more features
Jan 15 04:47:31 <cwayne> WLM?
Jan 15 04:47:37 <fxspec06> windows live mail
Jan 15 04:47:43 <cwayne> ah
Jan 15 04:48:05 <fxspec06> i loved WLM until i updated it to like the 2011 version. then i hated it, and decided to use outlook. meh.
Jan 15 04:49:24 <PatrickC> and kde-plasma-desktop crashed again
Jan 15 04:57:38 <cwayne> PatrickC: cus KDE
Jan 15 05:33:33 <fxspec06> did the enforcer come before or after dirty harry
Jan 15 05:45:31 <EricBlade> Enforcer was Dirty Harry part 3? i think maybe 2
Jan 15 05:46:21 * EricBlade chuckles .. someone passed a "AAA Penguin Jigsaw Puzzle" app on iTunes.  The icon and puzzle were a giant picture of the same Tux that webos internals uses.  A few hours later, it was no longer there
Jan 15 05:47:10 * coolstar-pc just had an IRC fight on #ubuntu-offtopic and easily won it
Jan 15 05:47:36 * coolstar-pc used his weapon "Vista Disc"
Jan 15 05:47:46 <coolstar-pc> lol
Jan 15 05:47:50 <EricBlade> oh it's back up with a different screenshot and icon
Jan 15 05:47:56 <EricBlade> weird
Jan 15 05:48:21 <EricBlade> coolstar-pc: winning an IRC fight is like winning the special olympics... :)
Jan 15 05:48:58 <coolstar-pc> EricBlade: First I tried to run sudo halt on chu, but he didn't fall for the sudo command
Jan 15 05:49:10 <coolstar-pc> EricBlade: Then I just got bored and inserted a Vista Disc into him, and he died
Jan 15 05:51:01 <coolstar-pc> EricBlade: Take a look for yourself: http://pastie.org/3187709
Jan 15 05:55:43 * EricBlade is still mindboggled by "Ignition" being a $99 app on ios
Jan 15 05:57:53 <coolstar-pc> ErocB;ade" Ot
Jan 15 05:57:56 <coolstar-pc> oops
Jan 15 05:58:05 <coolstar-pc> EricBlade: It's not quite gone: http://itunes.apple.com/ug/app/aaa-penguin-jigsaw-puzzle/id450497023?mt=8
Jan 15 05:58:06 <fxspec06> a $99 app
Jan 15 05:58:09 <fxspec06> what does it do
Jan 15 05:58:42 <fxspec06> if it doesn't make me a ham sandwich, i'm not interested
Jan 15 06:00:22 <fxspec06> damn. suddenly i have a craving for a sandwich.
Jan 15 07:52:49 <gapsork> hey..tell me ho the flow f controll goes in enyo..?
Jan 15 08:02:23 <EricBlade> gapsork: what do you mean
Jan 15 08:26:33 <gapsork> i mean thatonce .js file is called how does it execute..
Jan 15 08:26:58 <gapsork> from where..as in case of mojo it starts from setup function..?
Jan 15 08:31:12 <gapsork> ericblade : is there any function here also from were execution starts..
Jan 15 08:31:23 <EricBlade> well i'd guess that the first thing called is something around your main kind's create call
Jan 15 08:32:38 <EricBlade> i think there's some stuff before that possibly but basically, it calls create in every component that is defined in the beginning, and when all of the subcomponents of each thing are created, it calls ready
Jan 15 08:33:32 <gapsork> okay..well if we want to call any function will this.manual(); work?
Jan 15 08:36:08 <gapsork> what is ready..?
Jan 15 08:50:32 <EricBlade> ready is called when all the components inside a component are done being created
Jan 15 08:58:03 <gapsork> ready is a function()?
Jan 15 08:59:01 <gapsork> actually i want to call a function how and from were shd i make that call?
Jan 15 09:03:23 <EricBlade> yes. and i'm not trying to be difficult.. but.. wherever it is that you need to make that call happen.  is this your first javascript?
Jan 15 09:13:14 <gapsork> not actually..
Jan 15 09:14:24 <gapsork> can u give me a eg. showing..to call a function in the begining?
Jan 15 09:16:04 <Brybry> there are a lot of different ways you could do that
Jan 15 09:16:49 <gapsork> any one way...?
Jan 15 09:18:20 <Brybry> in your main kind you could have an ApplicationEvent component with an onLoad:, you could do it on the main kind render, on initComponents, etc
Jan 15 09:18:29 <Brybry> I don't really do enyo stuff so I dunno the best practice
Jan 15 09:18:36 <Brybry> I'd suggest looking at the sample applications
Jan 15 09:18:58 <Brybry> and remember it's still just javascript/HTML
Jan 15 09:19:23 <gapsork> kay..:)
Jan 15 09:22:22 <gapsork> brybry: where will i get sample app. showing initcomponents ,etc..?
Jan 15 09:23:29 <Brybry> in the SDK directory /share/samplecode/enyo/
Jan 15 09:23:53 <Brybry> or look around at open source apps and how they do stuff
Jan 15 09:24:43 <gapsork> ok
Jan 15 09:25:10 <Brybry> or I guess you could even look at the applications on your device if you want, it's not like the javascript is hidden
Jan 15 12:50:31 <RfromR> hi di hi
Jan 15 12:51:39 <RfromR> I meant hi de hi
Jan 15 18:46:06 <sugardave> ls
Jan 15 18:46:11 <sugardave> :/
Jan 15 18:47:27 <hotdp> hi sugardave
Jan 15 18:47:44 <sugardave> hey!  how's tricks?
Jan 15 18:59:24 <RfromR> ? Preware hangs at 'downloading feed information' stage for optware
Jan 15 19:02:26 <hotdp> eh? tricks?
Jan 15 19:04:37 <dwc-> sugardave: is hotdp turning tricks?
Jan 15 19:09:43 <sugardave> hotdp: it means "how are things?"
Jan 15 19:09:56 <sugardave> dwc-: not sure..I know it's expensive to live where he does
Jan 15 19:10:20 <hotdp> haha
Jan 15 19:10:24 <hotdp> correct
Jan 15 19:10:42 <hotdp> I guess my "tricks" are good?
Jan 15 19:10:49 <sugardave> awesome :)
Jan 15 19:11:02 * hotdp is looking at alarms for the house
Jan 15 19:11:29 <sugardave> we just have the alarm equipment now, no monitoring service
Jan 15 19:11:44 <hotdp> Is it good?
Jan 15 19:12:05 <sugardave> it's just a standard door/window alarm if something is opened while it's armed
Jan 15 19:12:34 <hotdp> Yer i think i want the same
Jan 15 19:12:51 <hotdp> No need to get a person out. The house will be empty before he arrives anyway
Jan 15 19:12:59 <sugardave> when they built the house they pre-wired all the window sills and door jambs with the magnet switch thingies
Jan 15 19:13:12 <hotdp> ohh cool
Jan 15 19:13:16 <hotdp> that makes it easy
Jan 15 19:13:35 <sugardave> oh yeah....the installer was here about an hour
Jan 15 19:13:41 <sugardave> easy money for him
Jan 15 19:16:08 <dwc-> oh yea, an installer's dream
Jan 15 19:33:01 <PatrickC> hey guys
Jan 15 19:48:41 <PatrickC> hrmm....
Jan 15 20:27:30 <EricBlade> hmmm
Jan 15 20:29:19 <PatrickC> hrmm.. why is this not working.... :/
Jan 15 20:29:29 <hotdp> Because you did it wrong
Jan 15 20:29:39 <hotdp> You killed it
Jan 15 20:29:43 <PatrickC> probably
Jan 15 20:30:55 <PatrickC> probably not gonna get this to work :/
Jan 15 20:31:33 <EricBlade> nope
Jan 15 20:31:49 <PatrickC> thanks for the encouragement guys :)
Jan 15 20:31:49 <PatrickC> lol
Jan 15 20:31:58 <EricBlade> :)
Jan 15 20:32:12 <EricBlade> i'd give you a hand, but i don't know that applause will help either
Jan 15 20:32:36 <PatrickC> lol. the twitter API hates me
Jan 15 20:33:16 <PatrickC> but i do know one thing. its good to be back on webOS daily again! :D
Jan 15 20:35:32 <PatrickC> bbl
Jan 15 20:37:06 <PuffTheMagic> another vkb layout for wTerm -> http://ompldr.org/vY2E3Nw/wterm_2012-15-01_153353.png
Jan 15 21:36:22 <EricBlade> hmm. do we have a rim-shot app somewhere?
Jan 15 22:03:01 <RfromR> hey fellas
Jan 15 23:03:21 <chocobo481> anyone know the name of the channel for android on the touchpad
Jan 16 00:13:40 <EricBlade-TP> hi
Jan 16 00:18:25 <halfhalo> lulz packers
Jan 16 00:54:21 <sugardave> haha, there's a function for enyo.Selction named highlander...it's to check if multiple selections are allowed
Jan 16 01:14:50 <EricBlade-TP> nice
Jan 16 01:15:57 <EricBlade-TP> a coworker of mine just wrote a big class dealing with touch screen input, and all of its vars and funcs are named after football terms, after the "touch down" function.
Jan 16 01:16:37 <EricBlade-TP> the brightness on my touchpad just jumped to 40% for no reason
Jan 16 01:37:25 <EricBlade-TP> anyone try splashtop and 3.0.5 and bluetooth keyboard yet? curious if its made important things like shift and control work or not.. and i dont have my keyboard with me to test
Jan 16 01:37:59 <EricBlade-TP> once i discovered i couldnt actually input with the shift key on the keyboard in splashtop, it became a lot less useful to me
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