**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jan 19 02:59:57 2012 Jan 19 03:31:09 just wanted to point out that bluetooth works in CM9 Jan 19 04:41:32 * halfhalo is shocked Jan 19 04:41:54 my dvr can output video over multiple outputs and multiple resolutions Jan 19 04:42:05 sweet Jan 19 06:09:58 gah i just heard one of my touchpads ding notification with the buzzy sound :( :( :'( Jan 19 06:26:20 hmm. it's just the notification dings that do it Jan 19 06:34:33 hmm. woot has an iPad stand up. it's like the Touchstone's really un-cool younger cousin Jan 19 06:36:58 hmm. without a coil to respond to the touchstone, setting an ipad in a touchstone wouldn't cause a problem would it? all the metal makes me wonder Jan 19 06:40:53 EricBlade: you should hack a coil into the ipad so it can charge on the touchstone :P Jan 19 06:41:31 * invalidopcode has been reading though his last 3 months worth of Hackaday articles Jan 19 06:42:05 yea? Jan 19 06:44:10 would be hard as the battery is right where the coil would need to go Jan 19 06:58:31 ipad rear case is metal? Jan 19 06:58:35 woo, cm9 on teh my touchpad Jan 19 07:13:58 ipad rear case is some kind of metal like thing Jan 19 07:14:20 it feels cold as ice when it gets cool, but when it warms up it feels like a plastic Jan 19 07:14:58 rewiring my work area.. bbl Jan 19 07:15:00 touchstone coil is unlikely to work through it Jan 19 07:30:40 hello gentlemen Jan 19 12:08:21 "what a joke. total lame program and effort" Jan 19 12:08:26 got to love these reviewers Jan 19 12:47:18 fxspec06: tasks@hand only got good reviews :) Jan 19 12:47:51 fxspec06: what app is that? Jan 19 13:01:35 wild'n video poker free Jan 19 13:01:36 heh Jan 19 13:42:43 hey in enyo..how can i call a function in a different file? Jan 19 13:44:39 at that file to your depends.js Jan 19 13:55:02 done.. Jan 19 13:55:42 and then how do call after that? Jan 19 13:58:33 brybry: can u tell me equovalent statement in enyo...
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Jan 19 13:58:38 ? Jan 19 13:58:46 eqivalent* Jan 19 13:59:00 amd: you mean a different enyo kind? your own? Jan 19 13:59:17 well, you can use events, like doSave, doSomething Jan 19 13:59:18 yes a kind.. Jan 19 13:59:33 or, a more crappy way, this.$.owner.methodToCall() Jan 19 13:59:46 if kind1 is parent to kind2 Jan 19 13:59:55 but i would suggest you use events Jan 19 14:00:25 can u please tell how to use events? Jan 19 14:00:31 amd: https://developer.palm.com/content/api/dev-guide/enyo/events.html Jan 19 14:07:40 bobben: in my event name i can put this table editor? Jan 19 14:11:13 amd: i'm not sure what you mean Jan 19 14:11:32 answer to your previous questio about
{name: "tableeditor", style="margin:8px 0px 10px 0px;", components: [ Jan 19 14:12:19 {kind: TableEditor, name: "editor" etc. etc. } Jan 19 14:12:22 ]}, Jan 19 14:12:31 i just want table editor kind..how can i make this thru by creating event Jan 19 14:12:35 okay:) Jan 19 14:12:41 is that what you're trying to do? Jan 19 14:12:50 you have your own kind that you wanna place in a div? Jan 19 14:13:27 yes this statement would work the same as the
in html..? Jan 19 14:13:42 {name: "tableeditor", style="margin:8px 0px 10px 0px;"} Jan 19 14:13:52 that's gonna give you a
Jan 19 14:14:02 then if you wanna place other things in there Jan 19 14:14:10 {name: "tableeditor", style="margin:8px 0px 10px 0px;" components: [ Jan 19 14:14:14 ]}, Jan 19 14:14:28 okay i got it Jan 19 14:14:33 thanx:) Jan 19 16:11:35 boom. Jan 19 16:57:13 shakalaka shakalaka Jan 19 17:04:27 diggity. Jan 19 17:04:43 YAY! Jan 19 17:04:51 sugardave: ping? Jan 19 17:40:17 hotdp: what's up? Jan 19 17:54:20 Good day today eh? Jan 19 17:54:30 Now that the govenator is not in the run anymore Jan 19 17:55:54 oh yeah? he already gave up even before the primary? I will have to find some news :) Jan 19 17:56:17 I thought for sure South Carolina was going to bring him the promised land ;P Jan 19 17:56:17 Rick Perry right? Jan 19 17:56:21 yeah Jan 19 17:56:25 hes out Jan 19 17:56:26 El Douche Jan 19 17:56:45 sweet, that's one piece of good news so far :) Jan 19 18:02:53 its gonna be obama v romney Jan 19 18:05:52 oh, that govenator Jan 19 18:06:36 basically, it's Romney v. Gingrich v. Santorum at this point, right? Jan 19 18:59:44 * DougReeder waves hello Jan 19 19:01:24 hi DougReeder Jan 19 19:02:28 I'm tryinog to decide whether to release the beta without image resizing, or wait Jan 19 19:03:17 how long until you have it working? Jan 19 19:04:13 not sure. I've never dealt with gstreamer, and its way more heavyweight than I need for this. Jan 19 19:04:45 is it horrible without the image resizing? Jan 19 19:05:01 Not horrible, just slow Jan 19 19:07:19 ah, i think i have some resoning i like: I don't want to run into difficulties, and change course and try to get the beta out Sunday night. Jan 19 19:08:36 DougReeder: ah, I was going to say put it out as beta and then work on that feature. when you release an update users will be impressed with speed increases :) Jan 19 19:09:37 * DougReeder smiles Jan 19 19:10:45 put it out today, it is. Jan 19 19:13:48 cool...what's it called? Jan 19 19:18:03 I'll let you know when I put it out - i couldn't let go of all of my paranoia at once, could I? Jan 19 19:18:16 haha, cool Jan 19 19:19:11 Okay, I can add 1.5 icons before putting it out. Jan 19 20:06:01 sugardave: add for(var x = 10000; x > 0; x--); to the top of several functions. every release, remove a 0. Jan 19 20:13:26 haha EricBlade Jan 19 20:13:32 setTimeout is better Jan 19 20:13:42 its the same slowness everytime :P Jan 19 20:42:50 wow 4 hours of official ios development, and i'm about ready to defenestrate my ipad Jan 19 20:43:14 lol Jan 19 20:45:40 Objective-C ? Jan 19 20:45:42 tell you what, put it in a box, and send it to me instead. Jan 19 20:47:53 EricBlade: +1 for correct use of defenestrate Jan 19 20:49:34 hotdp: i'm not even compiling anything, i'm just trying to get precompiled binaries and the PC softwares to function Jan 19 20:50:16 lol Jan 19 20:50:18 summatusmentis: i would, but i don't think the client that purchased it on my behalf would be very appreciative. tell you what, though, we can split the proceeds if you do all the development. ;) Jan 19 20:50:22 is PC iOS development officially supported? Jan 19 20:50:45 EricBlade: hah. HAH. right, in all my spare time Jan 19 20:51:39 Ah, b0bben Jan 19 20:51:40 re: pc ios dev, no, we're working with Unreal engine, which uses a Mac to build the iOS binaries, and PC software to do all the game editing Jan 19 20:51:49 So I have Plex installed on the server Jan 19 20:51:53 y0 Jan 19 20:52:00 Can't work out how to connect the tp to it Jan 19 20:52:08 nothing shows up under "servers on your network" Jan 19 20:52:12 on the tp that is Jan 19 20:52:24 http://ompldr.org/vY2NjZw/wterm_2012-19-01_154943.png Jan 19 20:52:25 Boopop: could you pass me some logs plz? Jan 19 20:52:29 I can't find any "myPlex" settings on the PMS's page either Jan 19 20:52:41 Forgive my newbyness, but how would I do that? :) Jan 19 20:52:45 like i mentioned yesterday, i'm having some auto-discovery issues Jan 19 20:52:58 Yeah I remember you saying that Jan 19 20:52:58 palm-log com.plex.webos-client Jan 19 20:53:15 ...that using novaterm or something? Jan 19 20:53:30 you can turn on myplex on your home server with plex by going to http://server-ip:32400/manage Jan 19 20:53:40 in Preferences Jan 19 20:53:53 Boopop: no, you can run it from the shell, if you have palm sdk installed Jan 19 20:53:54 EricBlade: oh, weird Jan 19 20:54:03 yeah, there should be a myPlex icon shouldn't there? there isn't Jan 19 20:54:13 No SDK installed =/ I'll fix that Jan 19 20:54:47 PuffTheMagic: 2 questions. 1) what's that flickr icon? 2) wtf is your background image? Jan 19 20:54:54 Hm Jan 19 20:55:00 I have the SDK for 3.0.5 installed Jan 19 20:55:06 3.0.4* even Jan 19 20:55:11 that'll do Jan 19 20:55:11 summatusmentis, flicker mundo app Jan 19 20:55:17 should that work with 3.0.5? Just for the shell Jan 19 20:55:25 just try palm-log in a shell/command prompt Jan 19 20:55:38 see if it's in your PATH (should be) Jan 19 20:55:45 oh, the pay-for app I haven't wanted to purchase yet Jan 19 20:55:49 and the bg is a of a flower taken with a fish eye lense and then a cubed effect does in post processing Jan 19 20:56:01 looks like it is Jan 19 20:56:06 summatusmentis, lol, i bought it a few days ago then got a free promo code for it :( Jan 19 20:56:23 kewl, then just do palm-log com.plex Jan 19 20:56:26 PuffTheMagic: that's crazy cool Jan 19 20:56:32 or com.plex.webos-client Jan 19 20:56:38 i think com.plex should work too Jan 19 20:56:58 Hmm Jan 19 20:57:02 I need to pipe it don't I Jan 19 20:57:02 anyone know how to launch a new card and make it show up in the parents stack? Jan 19 20:57:13 * Boopop gets his CompSci degree skills ready Jan 19 20:57:18 that's using > right? Jan 19 20:57:25 does anyone have an example node.js service somewhere? need to write an multicast auto-discovery feature tonight :) Jan 19 20:57:29 like "palmblahblahblah > something.txt" Jan 19 20:57:33 Boopop: no, just run it like that Jan 19 20:57:46 and paste the output on pastie.org or something Jan 19 20:58:05 but the output outdoes the prompt Jan 19 20:58:24 I'll just get what's at the bottom then :) Jan 19 20:59:24 http://pastebin.com/r4V8zqXu Jan 19 20:59:26 voila Jan 19 21:01:56 thx Jan 19 21:02:20 PuffTheMagic: did you win it from precentral too? Jan 19 21:02:33 ya Jan 19 21:02:44 after i gave in bought it Jan 19 21:03:42 wanna pass on the promo code? :) Jan 19 21:03:49 already did something with it Jan 19 21:03:53 fair enough Jan 19 21:31:08 wow.. megaupload was taken down.. Jan 19 21:32:01 yeah, taken down, founder arrested, claims of "international criminal organization" Jan 19 21:33:57 wow... Jan 19 21:34:08 i know tons of people who used megaupload (legally) Jan 19 21:34:26 there are a lot of legal uses for megaupload Jan 19 21:34:33 there are also a lot of illegal ones Jan 19 21:34:54 there are illegal uses for everything just about though. you can use facebook/twitter for illegal activities.. Jan 19 21:35:01 clearly Jan 19 21:35:28 * PatrickC would hate to see what they do is SOPA and PIPA pass... Jan 19 21:36:11 summatusmentis, u want an invite to Bitcasa? Jan 19 21:36:13 got 2 left Jan 19 21:36:18 what is Bitcasa? Jan 19 21:36:20 figured i would use them for people i know Jan 19 21:36:26 http://bitcasa.com/about Jan 19 21:36:34 its like one massive VHD Jan 19 21:37:28 nah, I'm ok Jan 19 21:37:39 ok Jan 19 21:38:19 I appreciate it, I just don't think I'd use it Jan 19 21:38:37 one of my friends sent me an invite, its kinda nice Jan 19 21:38:53 when you only have a 320 GB HDD, you can use a little extra space :) Jan 19 21:39:55 the pastebin image for heavy load is adorable Jan 19 21:40:38 i use tinypaste now. havent used pastebin for a few weeks Jan 19 21:41:06 ugh.. i hate it when i hit my rate limit on twitter :/ Jan 19 21:41:33 PatrickC, hook me up with an invite biocandy -at- gmail Jan 19 21:42:07 sent Jan 19 21:42:11 that was my last invite :) Jan 19 21:42:16 thanks Jan 19 21:42:19 should be getting more soon Jan 19 21:42:20 np Jan 19 21:42:46 dawm_, worked on any new webOS apps lately? Jan 19 21:42:53 * PatrickC needs a new idea.. your radio is dead. Jan 19 21:42:54 :/ Jan 19 21:42:59 nope havent done much of anything lately Jan 19 21:44:06 i need something new to work on that will actually sell.. your radio was cool when the idea first came about, but i dont think it would be that good anymore (with my current knowledge) Jan 19 22:01:05 Can someone try creating an account on webOS101 with OpenID? Jan 19 22:01:29 I probably need to migrate webOS101.com to the latest version of mediawiki Jan 19 22:08:58 lets see.. Jan 19 22:09:45 Roy-Pre1011, like, login? Jan 19 22:10:01 yes Jan 19 22:10:25 using Open ID instead of the normal username/password Jan 19 22:11:42 hmm i cant remember my google openid, and my simpleid has its own problems sometimes... Jan 19 22:13:24 ok this should work.. Jan 19 22:13:43 Roy-Pre1011, Database error Jan 19 22:13:57 Table 'webos101_dreamhosters_co.wos_user_openid' doesn't exist Jan 19 22:21:14 oh dear. Jan 19 22:21:21 Well, I'll fix that. Jan 19 22:21:35 Roy-Pre1011, are you the one who set up webos101? Jan 19 22:22:20 Try now Jan 19 22:22:23 yes, I am Jan 19 22:22:32 koo6: I think it's fixed now Jan 19 22:23:01 cool Jan 19 22:23:04 i use it every now and then Jan 19 22:23:38 i hope to get back to the task i started of attempting to improve upon the enyo documentation Jan 19 22:23:40 someday Jan 19 22:25:52 Verification succeeded Jan 19 22:26:24 Ah, nice. I need to add the links to Google on there. This is apparently an old version of the OpenID stuff and an old version of wiki. Jan 19 22:28:41 http://openid.net/get-an-openid/ Jan 19 22:36:54 #topic Jan 19 23:19:38 dumdedumdumdum Jan 19 23:26:21 IT'S ONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN Jan 19 23:27:09 LIKE DONKEY KONG Jan 19 23:27:27 TIL THE BREAK OF DAWN Jan 19 23:27:42 no. Jan 19 23:27:48 so its like throwing barrels at an overweight plumber? Jan 19 23:30:35 if the overweight plumber is the U.S. Government, and the barrels are ammunition, then yes, that's exactly what it's like Jan 19 23:31:09 Roy-Pre1011: not sure exactly how the openid stuff works... Jan 19 23:31:36 but I remember yahoo used to tell me I could just put in "yahoo.com" Jan 19 23:31:49 without having to remember the me.yahoo.com/a/a897sdf69a8s7df identifier Jan 19 23:32:24 "yahoo.com" doesn't work on webos101, but me.yahoo.com appears to Jan 19 23:38:25 http://www.theverge.com/2012/1/19/2719527/anonymous-claims-doj-and-record-label-site-takedowns-in-response-to Jan 19 23:46:16 "Cut of the head, three more grow in its place. A classic story." Jan 19 23:48:20 is "dotcom: his name at birth? Jan 19 23:50:46 seems more like "don't get between tards and their porn/warez" Jan 20 00:04:23 dwc-: heh, I need to update my saying: "Never get between lawyers and money, or tards and porn/warez" Jan 20 00:15:10 heh Jan 20 00:51:44 dustforce http://pc.ign.com/articles/121/1216773p1.html Jan 20 01:01:58 bitches be crazy Jan 20 01:10:53 http://ompldr.org/vY2NnbQ Jan 20 01:11:03 well, its stuck there for a while... Jan 20 01:25:06 i really hope things change at HP-Palm when we go open source Jan 20 01:27:10 some things said on the dev forums make me go "uh.. ok, well, i guess to some people having a beautifully designed system is more important than having one that does what users want, but.. really?" Jan 20 01:34:36 great. my 3rd doctor since 3.0.5 came out, and now my touchpad seems to be working fine, except when i unmount it from windows, it never shuts off usb mode on the device and i have to pull the cord Jan 20 01:34:47 and then wait forever while it resyncs it's filesystems Jan 20 01:41:06 i really hoped to see a big change in webos this year Jan 20 01:41:20 and all i got was a whole lotta ...... not change Jan 20 01:41:48 oh, plus some money, and a touchpad. that was cool Jan 20 01:42:21 i love my touchpad, but i'm starting to seriously not enjoy using it now Jan 20 01:43:38 i love my touchpad, but i just ..... idk. i don't use it as often Jan 20 01:43:43 i dont enjoy it because webos is dead and i have to use a droid for a cell phone Jan 20 01:44:13 it's almost crappy. like.. it's limited. there's nothing new about it Jan 20 01:45:22 i just wish there were a better music player Jan 20 01:45:38 i'd use it a lot more if there were an awesome music player for it Jan 20 01:45:55 until the day after 3.0.5 came out, when it started running really slow and web apps started ignoring input, and then i had to doctor it 3 times before that stopped, i swear using webOS made me grin Jan 20 01:46:06 even after getting my iPad Jan 20 01:46:46 fxspec, if i knew how to do awesome graphics like say google music does on android, i'd make the most awesomest thing ever. Jan 20 01:47:26 unfortunately, about all i can manage is a pre-packaged sliding animation that looks pretty neat the first time you see it, and then by the 10th time you wish it would stop. Jan 20 01:48:17 idk what google music does on android, but i made some neat-o animations on the graphing calculator back in the day Jan 20 01:48:24 along w/ the wild'n menu animation Jan 20 01:48:26 (s) Jan 20 01:48:47 find someone with ICS who uses Google Music. Ask them about it. They won't stop talking about how awesome it is, until you hit them. Jan 20 01:50:02 lol Jan 20 01:50:15 * halfhalo pulls out xoom with ics and google music Jan 20 01:50:16 https://github.com/PuffTheMagic/wTerm/raw/master/screenshots/stack_of_wterms.png Jan 20 01:50:17 bleh Jan 20 01:50:23 mc,htop,irssi,vim,emacs Jan 20 01:50:26 :D Jan 20 01:51:11 eyah mayb webos aint so bad after all. Jan 20 01:51:11 looks like if you're not in dev mode, you can't get out of usb drive mode Jan 20 01:51:38 it's obviously a sign to push people to dev mode :D Jan 20 01:57:45 hello is it possible to get running silverlight Jan 20 01:57:51 or any one using lovefilm Jan 20 02:01:31 anyone bored? Jan 20 02:01:35 anyone need a good laugh? Jan 20 02:01:38 anyone not seen this? Jan 20 02:01:40 http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/11/dogs-dont-understand-basic-concepts.html Jan 20 02:11:59 holey moley. Enyo FTW! Jan 20 02:12:14 rwatkins, you just figured this out? Jan 20 02:12:52 changed maybe a couple dozen lines of Paper Mache and .. well its kinda running on an Android tablet. Jan 20 02:19:10 ugh, i need to use PHP in my app but dont think webOS will allow me to do it? will it? Jan 20 02:19:23 ... Jan 20 02:22:59 not unless you first compile php for webOS Jan 20 02:23:37 so, in other words.. no Jan 20 02:23:48 which is exactly what i thought :/ Jan 20 02:24:29 that stinks :/ i dont have many full options.. php was one of the only ones that offered everything Jan 20 02:24:36 the node.js plugin only has limited use Jan 20 02:24:45 what do you need to do in php Jan 20 02:25:25 a ton of HTTP requests with cURL http://github.com/hipchat/hipchat-php Jan 20 02:25:27 thats what i need it for Jan 20 02:25:43 brb Jan 20 02:26:05 use xhr Jan 20 02:26:46 or node Jan 20 02:28:44 halfhalo, their node.js lib is very limited atm Jan 20 02:28:51 https://github.com/nkohari/node-hipchat Jan 20 02:29:43 make your own Jan 20 02:33:01 PatrickC, why have you not been trying to get wterm working on a phone? Jan 20 02:33:50 * EricBlade looks at the phonegap tutorial Jan 20 02:33:53 * EricBlade mehs Jan 20 02:38:42 PuffTheMagic, no need yet :) Jan 20 02:38:47 what i want is the VKB Jan 20 02:41:24 PatrickC, for which phone? Jan 20 02:41:38 or what is it u need from the vkb Jan 20 02:46:32 the entire VKB (minus the F keys) Jan 20 02:46:51 any of the phones i would think. the Pixi/Veer would be the hardest though Jan 20 02:47:01 i think a VKB on webOS would be awesome Jan 20 02:47:17 i started on one, and its almost done. just cant figure out how to get backspace/enter to fire.. Jan 20 02:47:31 i would be willing to help port Jan 20 02:48:19 can someone try visiting WOR? (webosroundup.com) and tell me if its down Jan 20 02:55:09 why would u waste all that screen on a vkb when u already have a physical keyboard Jan 20 02:55:47 seems like all u need is arrow keys and esc Jan 20 02:56:41 sometimes i want to type in landscape Jan 20 02:56:47 sometimes i want a physical kb Jan 20 02:57:10 so u want a term that has 4 lines worth of text Jan 20 02:57:15 what good would that be Jan 20 02:57:15 https://github.com/patrickc14/virtual-keyboard-webos Jan 20 02:57:22 im not talking about a term, im talking about for any app Jan 20 02:57:28 like the one linked to above does Jan 20 02:57:35 hello I am trying to use webosdoctor Jan 20 02:57:51 and I am getting this is not computable with ur device Jan 20 02:59:09 what device do u have? Jan 20 02:59:10 PatrickC, you should help them up wterms vkb Jan 20 02:59:29 PuffTheMagic, what needs help on it? it already looks amazing Jan 20 02:59:54 PatrickC: touch pad 16gb wifi **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Jan 20 02:59:57 2012