**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Feb 01 02:59:57 2012 Feb 01 03:12:18 man I'm loving these new headphones Feb 01 03:14:37 what kind are they? Feb 01 03:14:47 motorola S10-HD Feb 01 03:14:54 bluetooth Feb 01 03:15:15 nice Feb 01 03:15:22 i love mine http://www.amazon.com/BOQARI-Earbuds-Headphones-Microphone-Travel/dp/B003CF9UQU Feb 01 03:15:42 I had a pair of S10's a while back. they were decent enough for bluetooth Feb 01 03:15:59 They aren't perfect, but I'm happy with em Feb 01 03:16:01 halfhalo, dont u have like super expensive headphones? lol Feb 01 03:16:15 yes, your point being? Feb 01 03:16:38 http://mobileroundup.com/Article/crackberry.com/exclusive-first-image-of-a-blackberry-10-superphone webOS on this.. Feb 01 03:16:49 I wish I could get some really nice headphones. I used to have an amazing pair of sure headphones... but my dog ate them. Feb 01 03:17:00 lol Feb 01 03:17:17 I was so pissed. They where seriously like $300... Feb 01 03:17:36 I have a pair of the shure e5's or 510's or whatevery they are called now Feb 01 03:17:51 I don't know what they are called now Feb 01 03:17:59 http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-apps/311112-beware-purchasing-graphite.html#post3292160 any of you guys on here use graphite? Feb 01 03:18:06 http://www.amazon.com/Shure-SE535-V-High-Definition-MicroDriver-Detachable/dp/B003NSBKT6/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1328066262&sr=1-5 Feb 01 03:18:12 * PatrickC just gets cheap headphones Feb 01 03:18:28 halfhalo, dang... lol Feb 01 03:18:38 depends on what you call cheap Feb 01 03:18:40 I get expensive headphones when I can. They are worth it. Feb 01 03:18:47 I have kids right now though so they aren't practical Feb 01 03:19:02 sorry that should have read "young kids" Feb 01 03:19:13 halfhalo, i generally spend under $50 Feb 01 03:19:44 * PatrickC bbl Feb 01 03:19:47 The only problem I have with these is that they kinda rub on my glasses weird Feb 01 03:20:10 anything under 100 falls into the cheap category for me. Feb 01 03:20:27 but then again, my other pair are the heaphones which came with my focus Feb 01 03:21:01 theoretically one of the aftershokz thingies is on its way to me Feb 01 03:37:01 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kLdO3EsECs Feb 01 06:20:59 if anyone's taking notes of things we want in Open webOS -- i want the messaging app on phones to have an option to forget messages after it forwards them to a tablet. I don't need two+ archives of all my messages Feb 01 06:44:44 EricBlade, I'd like all my messages accessible in both spots personally :) Feb 01 06:45:05 a button in the photo app that checks for QR codes would be spiffy Feb 01 07:19:00 RagingMind: this is why i asked for an "option". i'd want it to be device specific Feb 01 07:19:14 :) Feb 01 15:43:10 WHY FIREFOX FREEZE Feb 01 15:43:37 * fxspec06 HULK SMASH Feb 01 15:44:55 why, after 10 firefox versions and 1,000's of subversions, do these applications (chrome opera and IE included) lock up with many tabs open including extremely large pages w/ tons of DOM elements Feb 01 15:45:54 i'd think that 8gb ram, 512mb gpu, and DC 3.3+ghz processor would be sufficient enough to load and run very large web pages silky smooth 100% of the time Feb 01 15:46:00 98% of the time is not good enough Feb 01 15:46:35 * fxspec06 NOT GOOD ENOUGH Feb 01 15:57:11 * halfhalo yawns Feb 01 16:36:44 fxspec06: hmm. i often have 120 tabs open in Opera .. Feb 01 16:37:15 i also often bump the 4-gig memory limit and crash opera too Feb 01 16:51:05 ha. they approved renaming my app to something humorous Feb 01 16:53:31 what did you rename it to Feb 01 16:53:37 "Something Humerous" ..? Feb 01 16:54:30 * fxspec06 ba-dum tshh Feb 01 17:02:16 I only have 1G of ram and a whimpy older atom processor, but I still generally have 3 browsers running each with 3-6 windows open and each window has between 3 and 10 tabs open Feb 01 17:06:37 probly add-ons / plug-ins (what the difference) Feb 01 17:08:12 RagingMind, why so many different browsers? Feb 01 17:09:01 EricBlade, why the need for 120 tabs? lol Feb 01 17:10:02 PatrickC: typically when i'm learning new languages and such, i'll have 4 rows of tabs across the right Feb 01 17:10:12 dang Feb 01 17:10:19 * PatrickC has never really used Opera... Feb 01 17:18:10 PuffTheMagic: Why does the period key on a bluetooth keyboard act like backspace in wterm? Feb 01 17:27:08 /me yawns Feb 01 17:27:10 grr Feb 01 17:27:11 * minego yawns Feb 01 17:35:44 lol Feb 01 17:36:01 http://www8.hp.com/uk/en/ad/eprint-demo-center/eprint-live.html Feb 01 17:36:06 Ripe for abuse Feb 01 17:37:08 echo "make webos devices" | lpr Feb 01 17:46:10 minego, cause its alpha Feb 01 17:57:54 minego, on my azerty pre4 period doesnt even send anything Feb 01 17:59:39 azerty pre4? :) Feb 01 18:00:23 i keep typing that Feb 01 18:00:26 i idk y Feb 01 18:00:47 every time i want to say pre3 i type pre4 Feb 01 18:01:52 lol Feb 01 18:06:21 * PatrickC lets his phone download the 2500MB of maps for nDrive Feb 01 18:33:12 bah, stupid laptop screen is broken... gotta take it into best buy.. :/ Feb 01 20:27:57 * EricBlade wonders if he could get away with submitting an app that does nothing except add an entry to just type for another app Feb 01 20:29:27 EricBlade, why not just add the ability to the original app? Feb 01 20:30:00 because the app already has a just type action, and as far as i can tell, you can only have one per app Feb 01 20:30:43 what action are you looking to do? and why do u need more then one? Feb 01 20:31:24 gvoice wants to have a "Send Text" and a "Place Call" button on Just Type Feb 01 20:33:25 ah Feb 01 20:33:38 homebrew sounds like it would probably be the only option Feb 01 20:36:27 well homebrew can't do it on it's own, i could easily do it with a second app, though, just a question of if it would be allowed Feb 01 20:36:53 there are apps that plugin specifically to other apps, so i don't see why not, other than some weird policy Feb 01 20:37:51 btw, got my 1099 today, if anyone's still looking, they're floating in now Feb 01 20:39:15 still waiting on mine Feb 01 20:45:16 EricBlade, i would possibly ask sugardave Feb 01 20:45:20 he might know if it would be allowed Feb 01 21:03:16 sugardave doesn't work in app approval .. :O Feb 01 21:03:29 he knows the people who do though :) Feb 01 21:03:38 he answered fxspec06's app approval question a few days ago Feb 01 21:15:10 my question had a very concrete answer.. Feb 01 21:16:13 fxspec06, this one would have a concrete answer too.. yes or no Feb 01 21:19:12 still, they are two different types of questions Feb 01 21:19:37 my question was non-controversial. his is more open ended Feb 01 21:43:50 daaamit the camera on my pre- is dead again Feb 01 21:44:01 quick, use CPR! Feb 01 21:44:29 she's gone, doctor. There's nothing we could do. Feb 01 21:45:36 oh crap Feb 01 21:45:48 i accidentally got an R-rated screenshot in the catalog.. Feb 01 21:46:07 fortunately it's 320x480 so no one can tell Feb 01 21:46:55 "R-rated"? lol Feb 01 21:46:59 what did u submit? Feb 01 21:47:02 :P Feb 01 21:48:28 I just got an email from a user letting me know that I had accidentally set the price for WeightLog in NZ to $99 instead of $0.99 Feb 01 21:48:31 oops Feb 01 21:48:47 lol Feb 01 21:52:18 o damn Feb 01 21:52:28 * fxspec06 opens phone rushes to catalog Feb 01 21:52:32 hmm. PRL update got my sprint network speeds up to par, yay. unfortunately, it's draining battery at a rate of approximately 1% every 2 minutes, even though it's completely stock Feb 01 21:53:20 minego, lol Feb 01 21:54:41 ugh. no boobies, i'm out Feb 01 22:01:54 minego, i sorta like the suggestion of renaming wterm to blackbox Feb 01 22:02:41 PuffTheMagic: who suggested that? Feb 01 22:02:58 frank_adler Feb 01 22:02:59 PuffTheMagic: If I recall correctly there is a window manager called blackbox... Feb 01 22:03:02 ya Feb 01 22:03:06 that is why im not sold Feb 01 22:03:15 I like the idea though... Feb 01 22:03:19 maybe something similar would work Feb 01 22:04:36 Conch Feb 01 22:04:44 lol that's not similar at all Feb 01 22:04:57 its a shell though ;) Feb 01 22:05:02 Conch as in the snail? Feb 01 22:05:04 Yeah Feb 01 22:05:19 It's unique Feb 01 22:05:21 I kinda like it Feb 01 22:05:21 but twisted uses Conch for terminal stuff Feb 01 22:05:29 oh boo Feb 01 22:05:29 but it itself is not an app Feb 01 22:05:35 its a namespace Feb 01 22:05:59 well and a shell and a terminal emulator aren't exactly the same thing... Feb 01 22:06:52 I keep trying to think of thigns that mean "terminal" and all I can think of is waiting for a plane and illnesses that kill you. Feb 01 22:06:59 true :( Feb 01 22:07:40 I mean, you could call it "the plauge" because it's terminal... but I don't think that would be very popular. Feb 01 22:08:05 wte Feb 01 22:08:31 what about "Grand Central" Feb 01 22:08:50 Doesn't apple use that for something? Feb 01 22:09:13 god damn Feb 01 22:09:24 I know, naming shit is hard. Everything is already taken. Feb 01 22:09:38 i dont think they do actually Feb 01 22:09:45 besides having a store in grand central Feb 01 22:10:09 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Central_(technology) Feb 01 22:10:20 It is their multi core technology Feb 01 22:10:21 Grand Central Dispatch (GCD) is a technology developed by Apple Inc. to optimize application support for systems with multi-core processors Feb 01 22:10:25 grrrr Feb 01 22:13:14 Do you want the name to have webOS in it? Feb 01 22:13:42 http://www.theverge.com/2012/2/1/2763391/facebook-files-for-ipo Feb 01 22:13:44 what about wconsole? Feb 01 22:13:47 that's a lot of money Feb 01 22:15:36 or textbox Feb 01 22:16:46 minego, it actually doesnt need to have webos in it, which might be good if we can ever get plugins on other oses Feb 01 22:17:07 Good point Feb 01 22:17:17 But a w wouldn't hurt if it was ported to another OS Feb 01 22:17:52 I think textbox is my favorite so far, but it is kinda weird Feb 01 22:18:33 iawTerm? iOS,Android,webOS/Web Term ;) Feb 01 22:18:55 lol Feb 01 22:19:11 oh I just thought of a horrible one (especially coming from me)... fullTerm Feb 01 22:19:50 HAHA Feb 01 22:20:30 PuffTheMagic: here's an idea…what did they call a terminal in Neuromancer? Feb 01 22:20:37 EricBlade, ping Feb 01 22:22:17 b0bben, nfc Feb 01 22:22:21 cortex? Feb 01 22:22:32 i know.. TERM Feb 01 22:22:32 deck Feb 01 22:22:33 :) Feb 01 22:22:40 PatrickC: hehe Feb 01 22:23:03 Deck.app Feb 01 22:23:14 you can thank me later (and send 500$) ;P Feb 01 22:23:19 lol Feb 01 22:23:27 enyoTerm! Feb 01 22:23:35 enTerm Feb 01 22:23:51 minego, i was thinking about something with enyo yoo Feb 01 22:23:52 too Feb 01 22:24:48 PuffTheMagic: I like that. It is really fitting if it gets ported to other platforms too. Feb 01 22:24:50 its also GL powered Feb 01 22:24:59 glvt Feb 01 22:25:25 There is an os x terminal called GLterm Feb 01 22:25:37 fhkjasdhfkjsdhfhajsfasdf Feb 01 22:25:37 asdf Feb 01 22:26:05 lol Feb 01 22:26:43 There terminal emulator itself is done in GL, not enyo so maybe enyo isn't the best name... Feb 01 22:26:52 glvt isn't bad Feb 01 22:27:47 glconsole Feb 01 22:27:52 GLconsole Feb 01 22:28:00 GLonsole Feb 01 22:28:54 I think you should call it "black window with letters in it" Feb 01 22:30:16 ^^ THIS Feb 01 22:30:19 minego, Kevorkian Feb 01 22:30:43 PERFECT! Feb 01 22:30:50 the icon can have a little needle in it :D Feb 01 22:30:55 haha Feb 01 22:31:15 "It helps you do what you need to do..." Feb 01 22:32:49 I think it is the best name so far Feb 01 22:43:19 PuffTheMagic, hermit? like the crabs? Feb 02 00:07:47 o shit Feb 02 00:07:49 what is this Feb 02 00:07:50 http://t.co/b79byzec Feb 02 00:08:06 http://worldwidegadget.blogspot.com/2012/02/meg-whitman-hp-webos-will-have-huge.html Feb 02 00:12:27 original source http://www.crn.com/slide-shows/channel-programs/232600012/crn-interview-whitmans-plans-to-get-hp-back-on-track.htm;jsessionid=hGXtK7MaLEt2mg7tOH8JZQ**.ecappj01 Feb 02 00:33:59 "We're going to build another operating system that has huge advantages, in my view, over iOS, which is a closed system, [and] Android, which is incredibly fragmented and may ultimately be more closed with [Google's] acquisition of Motorola Mobility." Feb 02 00:40:19 I don't even Feb 02 00:48:26 http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/slideshow/joan-rivers-smoking-marijuana-6797668 Feb 02 00:48:51 trenchant: what does that have to do with webOS development? Feb 02 00:49:47 Are you one of those people that feel that the room must always be on topic no matter what forever and always Feb 02 00:50:56 rwhitby: or anyone for that matter Feb 02 00:51:01 or anything* Feb 02 00:51:21 trenchant: yes, I am Feb 02 00:51:22 There is off topic, and there there is OT. Feb 02 00:52:43 there are developers who read the backlogs of this channel to get useful information. cluttering it with off-topic stuff makes it more difficult for those developers. it's simple courtesy. Feb 02 00:52:51 hmp Feb 02 00:53:07 there is a #webos-general channel specifically for off-topic discussion Feb 02 00:53:14 assholes Feb 02 00:53:29 pardon? Feb 02 00:53:30 screw supporting webos if you all gunna be like that Feb 02 00:53:33 -.- Feb 02 00:53:35 tottally Feb 02 00:53:48 you're seriously going down that path? Feb 02 00:53:56 * fxspec06 gets popcorn Feb 02 00:54:08 Its a bird! its a plane! Its a swift kick from the channel! Feb 02 00:54:50 what's with those clients that can't seem to /part correctly Feb 02 00:54:58 I blame the user. Feb 02 00:56:06 this is the part where somebody says "i can't believe he didn't know who rwhitby is" Feb 02 00:56:42 he joined #touchpad and pasted the same link Feb 02 00:56:57 hewball: he'll get a much better reception there Feb 02 00:56:58 who cares Feb 02 00:57:06 yup Feb 02 00:57:10 rwhitby: he can talk to himself there Feb 02 00:57:16 respect everyone Feb 02 00:58:23 +1 Feb 02 00:59:53 20 says he winds up in -internals later on. Feb 02 01:00:13 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FOUqQt3Kg0 Feb 02 01:15:41 anyone get their 1099 yet? Feb 02 01:18:40 Eric did, i think Feb 02 01:18:54 yeah, eric did. i haven't checked the mail today Feb 02 01:20:42 fxspec06: Was there anything more to those slides than the quote you pasted? Feb 02 01:21:51 yeah, there were a few paragraphs. slides 13 & 14 are the juicy ones Feb 02 01:22:59 12 mentions a windows 8 tablet, and the others touch base on cisco, autonomy, oracle, and other hp topics Feb 02 01:23:11 interesting Feb 02 01:23:55 basically meg is trying to be the 'savior' for HP, setting up for next 70 years, righting the wrongs that oh-so-infamous leo hath done Feb 02 01:24:46 interesting Feb 02 02:29:52 fxspec06: you scooped @hpnews by almost two hours on that interview link Feb 02 02:38:14 :) nifty Feb 02 02:38:47 well, i'm hittin the sack. school in (my) a m. ttyls **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Feb 02 02:59:57 2012